Russian Collaboration in WW2: th-cam.com/video/cKpj786Sorc/w-d-xo.html Belarusian Collaboration in WW2: th-cam.com/video/dbOYmKsp0pU/w-d-xo.html Cossack Collaboration in WW2: th-cam.com/video/c5XX9DUVQ1w/w-d-xo.html
It's a pity the speaker at Canada's House of Commons hadn't seen your videos before inviting a Gallician SS veteran to Zelensky's visit. With the chief of Canada's military seated almost next to the veteran and enthusiastically applauding him, it's clear that many Canadians need more history lessons like this.
@@HistoryHustle At least videos like yours provide a fair history lesson to explain how such an error might have happened and offer a good resource to bring Canadians up to speed on a complex and tragic history.
It's a pity that the Speaker had to fall on the sword. Where was the vetting process? How did not one member of Parliament not know about the Waffen SS?
Given What's happened in the Canadian Parliament a couple of days ago I would say this video aged very well as history always does. Well done with this piece of work. Keep doing what you doing. This topic is now all of a sudden front and center on everybody's mind. If only we could all pay more attention to history 👍
Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
@@АндрейКазанцев-ы8м9ь Soviet Putin propaganda. Do remember the Soviet Nazis, Soviet duplicity, and that more people died under Stalin's control than Hitler.
These Nazis are not only celebrated in "small Ukrainian circles" Canada’s House of Commons just gave a rousing standing ovation to a Ukrainian veteran who fought in the SS Galicia unit. Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery when he was described as a “Ukrainian hero” and a “Canadian hero” to applause from prime minister Justin Trudeau and president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Zelensky didn't hear that this guy fought Russia in ww2? Zelensky doesn't speak English? Operation Paperclip is no longer a dirty secret. It is on full display in the US and Canada.
The mere fact that Canada and other countries allowed murderers to escape justice in 1947 speaks to their essence: in public they say one thing and do another. The names of all Ukrainian Nazis-Waffen SS division in the Second World War were recorded in the famous lists of Rimini. And Canada knew who it was harbouring and why. And to declare that the ovation of Nazism in the Parliament of Canada was a misunderstanding is simply inexcusable for all mankind.
Well said. If it was not for the Vatican, ALL these murderous rabid 14th Waffen SS Gallica Div. fanatics would have been handed over to the Soviet Union. That is where these crimes were committed. The Soviet Union is where, and who, should have administered the justice they deserved.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
@@HistoryHustle - The curator and sponsor of “Azov” are the country’s former Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, oligarchs Igor Kolomoisky and Renat Akhmetov. US congressmen even talked about this in 2014.
@@HistoryHustleкакая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
@@djolivierastro depends what truth's you tell and who doesn't want to hear them. The truth could cost you your friends, anything/everything. Plenty found that out, Mr assange just one. Dr David Kelly another,,, who thought saying ,,there are no WMD's could cost you your life?. 😮😢
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
@@HistoryHustlecountry is run by those bastards. It was clearly shown when Zelensky went to Donbass frontline and demanded for them to stop shelling "separatists" and they quite clearly denied and told him he will be hanged if he tries to interfere.
@@HistoryHustleAzov battalion is not just one unit, its a nationwide movement with hundreds of thousands of members, with youth camps etc. Then there's Aidar, Right Sector, Tornado, Galichina...
It's strange that anyone finds this to be new information. While he did a great job with detail, information about this has never been suppressed. It's been readily available and easily accessible for decades. You just didn't care. You put down other sources of information because you failed to know about this years ago. It was there, in the open, all the time. In one invasion scene in Saving Private Ryan, two apparently German soldiers attempt to surrender and are shot. They were speaking Ukrainian. The producers of the movie knew about the Ukrainians who joined the Germans. You didn't even realize the soldiers weren't speaking German. Now you act as if this was a narrative-breaking revelation. Thank him for a nicely-produced detail piece on a bit of history; but thanking him for bringing something new speaks poorly for your own grasp of the obvious. Either way, what this sheds light on has more to do with how Putin's twisted use of this history affects a portion of the Russian population... Putin's true audience... than on whether or not the unprovoked invasion (meaning Ukraine did not use violence against Russia prior to the invasion) of Ukraine is in some way justified.
@@skipdreadman8765 They were speaking Czech not Ukrainian. Also in his defense not everyone is a scholar of ww2 and learning more about history is always a good thing even if he was a bit late.
Part 1. For "Galicia" and the police regiments later included in its composition, operations began with counter-partisan actions. Since February 1944, the Bayersdorf combat group, according to various sources, up to 2 thousand people, operated near Lviv. Gradually, other parts of the division were drawn into anti-partisan actions. They didn't care about cleanliness. So, in February, the SS police regiment (at that time not related to the division) broke into the village of Guta Penyatska, which was considered a stronghold of the partisans. The first attack was repulsed, but soon the Ukrainian Nazis nevertheless took it by storm, after which they slaughtered the population and burned the settlement itself. The SS carried out a series of attacks on villages, killing civilians. In Poland, these acts of violence are rightly qualified as genocide. Galician policemen episodically managed to make war with partisans even in France. But soon they were to face a real enemy. The baptism of fire of the "Galicia" units in the battles against the regular forces of the Red Army turned out to be frankly not inspiring. The 4th Galician SS police regiment, which occupied Zbarazh, was attacked by the vanguards of the 4th Guards on the evening of March 5. tank corps of the Red Army. Parts of the regiment were defeated and part retreated from the city. In addition, the 3rd battalion of the 4th regiment was lost in the "Ternopil fortress". A unit of 588 people ended up in the city at the moment when the Russians surrounded it. In total, 4422 people were isolated there, so the Ukrainian SS men made up a significant part of it. By April 17, 1944, after a three-week siege, the Ternopil garrison was almost completely destroyed, almost no one survived from the Galicia battalion. The defeat of the battalion in Ternopil was only the first sign of real trouble. June 30, 1944 "Galicia" went to the front. By this time, it was a serious force - more than 15 thousand bayonets, of which more than 14 thousand Ukrainians and a thousand Germans. For the Wehrmacht and the SS, this was the standard number of a well-equipped formation. The positions of the division were near Brody as part of the XIII Army Corps of the Wehrmacht. The division occupied a front of 8 km, which allowed it to create a fairly dense defense. However, the battles near Brody turned out to be a complete disaster for the Wehrmacht and the SS in general, and for Galicia in particular. The Lvov-Sandomierz operation of the Red Army began on July 13, and by the 14th, a hole was already gaping in the Wehrmacht defense line south of Brody. They tried to use "Galicia" to counterattack and stop the breakthrough. The counterattack was scheduled for 8 o'clock in the morning on July 15, and in the 6th position of "Galicia" the Russians had already attacked the forces of approximately a rifle division, reinforced with tanks and assault aircraft. The 30th regiment was practically defeated and rolled back. To the south of the positions of "Galicia" a gap formed - the so-called Koltovsky corridor, into which Soviet troops poured. Attacks on the rear began - on July 17, the Soviet cavalrymen who broke through defeated the communications battalion "Galicia". July 18 "Galicia" was surrounded along with the main forces of the German corps. Panic began to grow in parts of the division, by July 19, under the constant attacks of the Red Army, it became practically uncontrollable and broke up into separate parts. On the same day, the artillery regiment of the division was defeated. The attempt to break through to the south allowed several groups of Germans and Ukrainian SS men to leave. On the whole, however, the Russians won a brilliant victory. Among those who emerged from the encirclement was the German division commander Freitag, who immediately after the breakthrough scolded his Ukrainian subordinates, accusing them of cowardice and incompetence. In total, not so much remained of the fifteen thousandth division. More than a thousand people of the rear and spare parts were outside the encirclement initially, and about 2.5 thousand left the boiler. In total, the commanders managed to gather 3.6 thousand people, the rest were out of action. True, some of the rest did not die, but deserted and went to the nationalist formations of the UPA. About 9,600 people died, up to a thousand were captured. Restoration of the division. It turned out to be surprisingly easy to revive the defeated division thanks to the huge reserve training regiment, which numbered almost 9 thousand people. Freitag remained its commander. Already in September 1944, "Galicia" received a new task. It was the usual punitive work - this time to suppress the Slovak uprising. Of course, it was difficult to completely restore Galicia in such a short time, so a battalion combat group of one and a half thousand bayonets first went to Slovakia from its composition. Since the beginning of October, "Galicia" has been fighting near the Babina station. However, at the end of October, the entire division was already redeployed to Slovakia. Surrounded and suffering from a lack of ammunition, the Slovak rebels, of course, were not such a formidable enemy as the regular forces of the Red Army. However, the Ukrainian SS had to fight with them again. At the end of December 1944, parts of the division acted against Soviet troops breaking through into Slovakia. The SS battle group was thrown back from the advanced positions in the village of Yablonovets to the village of Pukanets. She could also lose a fart, but the Russians were pushed back by the Germans who came to the rescue. As a fighting force, the Ukrainian SS division completely compromised itself, but as an anti-partisan formation it was still useful to the Nazis. Therefore, her next task was to fight against the rebels and partisans in the Balkans. In the winter of 1945, the 14th division was transferred to Slovenia, near Maribor. The prospects, however, were clearly bleak, so the division suffered seriously from desertion. Everyone understood that the Nazis did not expect anything good ahead. Soldiers sometimes left in whole units with weapons. True, it was a long way from Slovenia and Slovakia to Ukraine, and the Germans usually successfully caught and returned these fugitives.
You are so underrated, I am new to the channel and started watching since yesterday and I really appreciate your hard work, you have a great uploading schedule while making quality content and going in depth with your videos, people can learn a lot from your videos and I will recommend this to my friends, it's hard to find a youtuber this passionate, keep up the good work Stefan!
Excellent work. BZ. Ukraninian SS were also used in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to dispatch the Jews. Any plans for a video on the Ukranian auxiliary units that were renowned for their brutal efficiency?
Not only in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, but also during the 1944 Uprising in Warsaw (google Wola massacre). Moreover, they were used as guards in death camps.
I learnt about this units existence not more than an hour ago while watching an episode of the "Soviet Storm" series. Its a good way of keeping your mind fresh about the important events on the eastern front. Excellent video!
Absolutely an eye opening historical lecture to me - so much more going on in Eastern Europe during WW2 between the Russians and the Germans than what I knew about! Ukraine, especially, had far more going on than I learned from my University History Courses. Thank you very much for your hard work in historical research and your excellent presentations on this history!
@HistoryHustle какая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
Well done Stefan. The truth is often reprehensible and easier avoided. I'm pleased you did this...other channels are sympathetic because they think it's expected of them.
Guenther Deschner „Warsaw rising” (London 1972) - We remember how Ukrainians suppressed the Warsaw Uprising. We remember how she plays the role of KAPO in German extermination camps. We remember the SS galizien, Nachtigall, We remember the ideology of Dymytro Doncov. We remember Melnyk, Bandera, Szuchwycz and other bestries. We remember the massacre of the innocent and the generally unmentioned "GENOCIDIUM ATROIX" in Eastern Lesser Poland. We, Poles, require an apology and exhumation.
@@HistoryHustle I think so too. It is sad. Poles are a Latin civilization and in our cultural code there is a glorification of the defensive war - 'chivalrous' and 'limiting morality' (Feliks Koneczny). Today we help a lot of Ukrainians who are fleeing. But I'm afraid we'll only lose out on this. Our country is poor, tired of wars, 50 years of communism, and today the rationing of rich EU countries. The hostile potential is deliberately destroyed. And on top of that, there was a "e*pidemic" and a strange war at our eastern neighbor. I hope it will be fine, but the Polish proverb says "hope is the mother of the fools". Tkanks for your work i very like your channel.
"Ojczyzna to ziemia i groby - narody tracąc pamięć tracą życie" - Homeland is the land and tombs - peoples, losing memory, losing life. Monument to the victims of the Ukrainian genocide (Polish. Pomnik ofiar ukraińskiego ludobójstwa) - a monument located in the territory of the Kraków Rakowitska cemetery. It is dedicated to the victims of the Volyn massacre committed by Ukrainian nationalists during World War II. The famous monument to the victims of the Volyn massacre in Wroclaw engraved the words of Adam Mickiewicz from the poem "Dziada": "Jesli o zaponichmne, jestes niebianski, zapomnij o mnie!" - "If I forget about them, you, God in heaven, forget about me". The assistance of the Polish government to Nazi Banderov Ukraine is a mockery of the memory of the fallen. According to various estimates, 30 to 60 thousand people were killed in the Volyn massacre, and in total in Western Ukraine - up to 100 thousand. Ukrainian nationalists No one was spared - no children, no women, no old people. The victims were shot, but mostly hacked with axes, bludgeoned to death with clubs, sawed, and had their bellies cut with pitchforks. The atrocities of Ukrainian nationalists surprised even the Nazis. Erykh Koh, head of the Reich Commissariat of Ukraine, said: "I need a Pole when meeting a Ukrainian to kill a Ukrainian, and vice versa, that the Ukrainian kill a Polish. If they shoot a Jew on the way, that’s exactly what I want... We don’t need Russians, Ukrainians, Poles. We need fertile land". See the Polish film "Volyn"…
Did I know about Ukranian SS, their history, they're insignia, and the organizations currently using these? Absolutely. My father and his family were from Drohobycz in Eastern Galicia. My father and his immediate family joined partisans and killed Ukrainian fascists and other Nazi collaborators. Other family members were killed by SS with the aid of Ukranian collaborators.
@@HistoryHustle why call s it dumb when I as a guy in Belgium 54y knows Canada and Russia were allies in WW2, making Yaroslav and his buddies the enemy . Chrystia Freeland grandfather Chomiak was a Ukro nazi and daddy and herself are seen in meetings with those vets and holding black and red Bandera flags
Back home in my ex Yugoslavia during school time everyone had History as a subject for 8 years.We studied from beginning of History to modern times.That’s we better understand what happening in the World right now.
It's easy to see why modern Ukrainian ultra nationalists are sympathetic to Third Reich motifs. Among other things, the Ukrainian Waffen SS troops have that carefully cultivated Nazi heroic look that is still appealing today. The power of aesthetics on ideology is considerable.
"Ultra nationalists" 😂 Don't create new sensless words my friend, those pathethic filth and their modern descendants called faschists (or nazists if you want).
@@ПетрВрангель-т8п No. "Nazi" and "fascist" are propaganda terms. Ultra Nationalist better describes them. Either way, the USA is funneling billions of dollars in weaponry to them. Hopefully this won't end in WW3.
@@HistoryHustle You can say that again. Putin, Zelensky and the USA are playing with fire and people on both sides are cheering them on. As a student of war history I hate it.
Great episode My great grandfather was born the first year Poland became a country and he was conscripted into the Soviet Red Army and became radio operator, demolitions expert, translator of numerous languages while in Special forces and always told me he could not believe that the Ukrainian partisans his unit was aiding were telling him they killed some Ukrainian Waffen SS in an ambush
@@jtom68 Makes sense. What is interesting to note is that even OUN-UPA did not support Ukrainians joining the Waffen SS, although they did not kill them. Rather they would punish those caught and then take then into their ranks.
Not they only one and after it turned out he was an SS veteran the Parliament apologized. Nevertheless a stupid thing they did not check the man's background.
@@HistoryHustle Very true, beyond dumb considering they called the truckers what he actually was. I guess it’s better than here in America where they have a stadium still named after Von Braun. 🤦♂️
@@HistoryHustle A ukry zabijające obrońców Lwowa znasz historię? A ukraińcy mordujący Orlęta Lwowskie? A Wołyń i nabijanie Polskich dzieci na sztachety przez ukrów znasz? Rozpruwanie Polskich kobiet w ciąży przez ukrów znasz? Hutę Pieniacką znasz i mordowanie Polaków przez ukrów? Rzeź Woli w Powstaniu Warszawskim z udziałem ukrów i mordowanie przez nich ludności cywilnej znasz?
History Hustle please do not listen to people who say that the genocide on Volhynia is a Polish point of view. Poles want to talk and remember Volhynia. They are ukrainian who had grandfathers in the UPA and do not want to hear and remember Volhynia. Just Like a criminal who wants to hide his crimes. Dr Lucyna Kulińska who deals with the genocide of Volhynia wanted to conduct a series of lectures about Volhynia at Polish universites a few years ago. Dr. Kulińska was blocked when it comes to discussing the topic of genocide on Volhynia...After world war II it was also impossible to talk about Volhynia in Poland because many UB functionaries were in the UPA bands. This topic is also inconvenient of course for those descendants of ukrainian genocides. Please also take into account the fact that the people who miracously survived the genocide as a result of the trauma were not able to talk about its. This is already the duty of their grandchildren. Genocide crimes never expire.
Didn't a unit of the Galician SS end up in Britain? They came from Rimini DPC where they were held as non-POWs. POW status implied their repatriation. DP did not. The British spirited them out in defiance of Soviet investigators who wanted them treated as POWs and to be repatriated to the USSR. This is from "Hitler's Foreign Executioners" by Christopher Hale. Many ended up in Canada, where they have had an effect on politics ever since. I played with kids that were the sons of Ukrainians, in England in the 1960s. I had wondered, until recently, what they were doing in the country. Then I found out...
Nobody in the house of common (Canadian Parliament in Ottawa) said : "Wait a minute, this guy (Yaroslav Hunka) fought the Russians during WWII, Russians (or more accurately Soviets (including Ukrainian people)) were our allies during WWII, this 98 years old guy was forcibly on the wrong side". Other thing, Zelenskyy is half Jewish by his father, his paternal grandfather was a Soviet officer and WWII veteran, many of his distant or close relatives were massacred by the Nazi and there Ukrainian collaborators, it's impossible that Zelenskyy ignore this kind of historical facts, he anyway applauded with great enthusiasm this SS Galician th14 Division veteran...
Part 3. Subsequently, the surrendered soldiers of "Galicia" were never extradited to the USSR, later these people lived in exile as private individuals. During the war, about 33 thousand people passed through "Galicia", of which about 11-14 thousand (the discord was caused by the chaos of the last days of the war) were destroyed, a significant part were captured during the war or deserted. Most of the SS from Galicia did not have any particular problems in connection with their SS past. Moreover, legal SS veteran organizations operated in Britain and America. In Ukraine, the SS men are heroized rather for political reasons. Is the division "Galicia" involved in war crimes? Yes, definitely; and as an instrument of the Nazi regime as a whole, and specifically as a military unit. The press regularly cites the thesis according to which the Nuremberg Tribunal "did not recognize" the division as a criminal group; however, in Nuremberg, in principle, no specific military units were allocated; and moreover, specifically German criminals went on trial in Nuremberg, and not all in a row. The tribunal's position was formulated as follows: In dealing with the SS, the Tribunal includes here all persons who have been formally accepted as members of the SS, including members of the "General SS", SS troops, SS "Totenkopf" formations and members of any kind of police services who were members of the SS. The Tribunal does not include in this number the so-called SS cavalry formations. The question of the security service of the Reichsführer SS (commonly known as the SD) is dealt with in the Judgment of the Tribunal in the case of the Gestapo and the SD. The Tribunal declares criminal under the terms of the Charter a group consisting of those persons who were officially admitted to membership in the SS and listed in the previous paragraph, who became members of this organization or remained members of it, knowing that this organization is used to commit acts defined as criminal in accordance with with article 6 of the Charter, or those persons who were personally implicated as members of the organization in the commission of such crimes, excluding, however, those persons who were drafted into this organization by state bodies, and in such a way that they did not have the right to choose, as well as those who did not commit such crimes. "Galicia", of course, did not stand out from the many national formations of the Waffen-SS. It was a fairly ordinary, although quite numerous division, and, like other divisions of the SS troops, certainly does not give anyone any reason to be proud.
Not quite true of 42000 called up by Germany on 27000 were selected as fit for service and only 13000 were enlisted not 33000. There is little concrete evidence to support atrocities committed by them other than some anti partisan activity in the Balkans. They were not returned to the USSR as the majority claimed Polish citizenship. Yes nothing to be proud of but no worse than Soviet military atrocities during the war and immediately acter
Stephan I am still so pleased with all your work. I'm gutted at times how history repeats itself. Do not forget the past or we are destined to repeat it.
I learned plenty from this history channel and other channels and I guess Canadians need to visit this history channel. I could never understand why most Africans support Russia and not Ukraine but I guess that they have seen this and the fact that many Nazi leaders who committed atrocities are national heroes in Ukraine is pretty disturbing.
I'd say that nost Africans don't know much or don't care deeply about what happened in ww2 in Europe but they simply see who is supported by colonial powers that oppressed them for centuries and they chose to support opposite side.
I think You are handling this difficult topic very well. Your final remarks reminded me of a video recently uploaded by the 'Good Times Bad Times', a channel devoted to geopolitics and international relations. The creators of this channel are Polish but this particular video, entitled "Has Ukraine already won?" was mostly written by a Ukrainian author. It argues (among other things) that the current war really finalizes the creation of the Ukrainian nation by (again, among other things) creating national heroes that are for a change not highly problematic and divisive and are finally accepted by all Ukrainians. Here is the video: th-cam.com/video/JDf6Zf0JrPE/w-d-xo.html BTW I would love to see you make a video specifically about Pavlo Shandruk, the commander of the UNA, because his biography was really interesting and paradoxical.
I agree. This war has united all Ukrainians under one flag forever. We feel more connected to each other than ever. In its pursuit to destroy the Ukrainian State and national identity, Russia has only strengthened Ukrainian nationality. I believe its important to recognise your countries' history (good or bad) and not sweep it under the rug like Russia.
@nvzx "War heroes". Don't delude yourself, friend. Bandera isn't a "war hero", he was just cowardly piece of garbage which german masters used as nd throw away like it always innevitably happen with such pathethic traitors and collaborants. Bandera - is literally the most opposite to any kind of "hero".
A question re the incident in the Canadian Parliament, please. In an interview, a local historian explained that as soon as he heard the Speaker announce a Ukrainian Canadian who fought the Russians in WW2, he knew exactly what he was talking about. My QUERY is, would not President Zalensky have also understood that, and even quicker? And did Zalensky join in the applause? Thanks! :--}>
You don't quite understand the situation. Question: why are there so many of those same Nazis in Canada? Answer: because Britain sent many Canadians to their deaths in the war against the Nazis. Because of this, there is a labor shortage in Canada. Therefore, Britain forced Canada to invite many Nazis so that there would be someone to work with. This Gunko was offended by the Poles. He is originally from Poland. Then the USSR came. And the boy went to school for the first time. In 5th grade. Then the Germans came. And the boy was sent to the punitive squads. And he fought with the Russians. But not on the battlefield; Ukrainian Nazis never fought with soldiers. He burned and slaughtered civilians, women and children, destroyed villages in Belarus and Slovakia, and created the Holocaust.
Thanks for putting this history lesson together on video! My ancestors hail from eastern Germany and Poland so I find this all very interesting. I'd love to hear/watch a history lesson by you of what the war was like on the eastern front during WW1, especially from the German perspective.
Great Great Information...History is a Fact that when studied and understood gives Truth ! Thankyou Sir for this Great and Important video ! I subscribed and turned on all Notifications !
Your channel is absolutely underrated. 2RP's father - Roman Dmowski wrote such words about Ukraine as early as 1930: " The ease with which the Viennese political spheres from the local narrow notion of Ruthenians (Ruthenen) jumped over to the broad notion of Ukrainians and turned the internal Austrian Ruthenian question into an international Ukrainian one was astonishing. It would be simply incomprehensible were it not for the profound change that took place today, at the end of the last century (XIX), in the situation of the Habsburg monarchy."
History of Ukrainian nationalism in the 1st half of the 20th century had been very obscured until Mr Teacher enlighten us all. Thanks. I read a cold war era novel back in the early 80s (I forget the name) and it was about Ukrainian nationalists in exile at the time plotting the downfall of the then USSR leadership to enable an opportunity to gain independence. The plot as per the novel failed and at the time I was wondering what it was all about and now I have some idea.
Ukrainian collaboration of WW2 has nothing to do with today. Most of the collaborators of back then are dead. Different times now. Don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Walking on thin ice (from the Polish point of view) you managed to tell about these events in an interesting way. However, I must point out that the "Volhynian Massacre" was carried out by the so-called Banderites who sympathized with the UPA but they were not any organized units. That is why it is called a massacre because they were Ukrainian civilians, often neighbors of Poles whom they murdered with the help of not a firearm, but a manual "garden" weapon, an ax, a shovel hoe ... But today, from the Polish and Ukrainian point of view, we do not want to be reminded of it, in Poland everyone knows this part of our shared history, but it's a bad time to bring it back. and again, thanks Stefan for your work
@@PabloPopova Zbrodni wojennych dopuścili się Niemcy i Ukraińcy. Róznica między Niemcami a Ukraińcami jest taka, że Niemcy robili to jako żołnierze a Ukraińcy w 90 % dokonywali mordów na Polakach jako cywile. Zarówno Niemcy jak i Ukraińcy mordowali Polaków na ziemi Polskiej. Ukraina bowiem do 1945 roku była Polską. Takich zbrodni jakich dopuścili się Ukraińcy nie było w dziejach ludzkości. Wymordowali 200 tysięcy Polaków, kobiet , dzieci I starców. Teraz przyjechało ich do Polski 5 milionów i mają lepszexwarunki do życia niż Polacy. Wszystko za darmo, dodatkowo 200 euro miesięcznie .
i really enjoy your willingness to address uncomfortable issue and you got me when you were willing to adress your own nation difficult issue without a blind eye both under occupation and far east gave me confidance in getting balance info on other topics thanks
18 million soviet citizens was killed. It's a shame that everyone considers this unimportant. Half of my family was killed, but did anyone apologize to me? Jews were given money and houses. And they made me feel guilty.
@@HistoryHustle Well, who in the West mentions this? Holocaust, sometimes of Poles, and rarely of OTHERS. The countries of Europe planned the complete kill all Russians, they destroyed the population of vast regions. But it is tssss. And now the SS soldier is justified by the fact that he fought with the Russians. He burned them, what a hero. He didn’t fight the Red Army, only civilians. Only in Canada, for example, is Nazism the norm; I am sure that in a year they will apologize to him. Now everything is the same, we all see that we are treated like animals. Russia constantly has to impose respect for Human Rights on Europe.
as far as I am aware the nazis in ukraine, like everyere else , are minority. but they are very active and, because theyr activities suit the americans, they are widely supported. so you are correct - not everybody celebrate galician division anyversaries and etc. the common man just doesn't dare to oppose the nazis. you might know that, but in case you don't, will tell you few words about the past of galicia. once it was russian kingdom. in fact the only russian kingdom - the ruler there was king Danila( or Daniil) Galitsky. all russian rulers, apart from him had the title "tsar" or "imperor" later. and the sity of Lvov, renamed nowadays to Lviv, was named after the son of king Danila, whose name was Lev(lion). sadly - that once beautifull and strong( thanks to the kommunists) country is being destroyed now in the interests of the USA. forgot to say - interesting video. thank you for making effort to make it
Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
As I've said in a previous video, the politics of the area were more complex than most people realize. Between a rock and a hard place is a good analogy. Before passing judgement, I think people need to really think about what it was like to be caught in the area at the time, and between two bloody dictators. Who really did worse to you, Hitler or Stalin? I'll be blunt and say that I can't blame many people from the USSR for siding with the Germans, if for no other reason than they experienced Communism, and now thought that the Nazis could be the lesser of the evils. If the Nazis had been victorious, it probably would have been a different story. As The Who once sang, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Take care.
@nvzx It is not difficult to check the list of participants on the side of the Germans:Dirlewanger Brigade and Kaminski Brigade (RONA), if they included part of ethnic Ukrainians, it is too loud called them"ukrainian ss division".
Don't ever compare Stalin to Hitler. None of them were actually worse than King Leopold whose name is hardly brought up by western imperialists. The worst crimes against mankind were perpetrated by the West. If you care to know, learn the atrocities of the West in Africa. The first German holocaust was visited upon the Herero people of Namibia. Stalin was no brutal than any Churchill whose atrocities against India is not a secret.
Weird, i live in a socialist country and it ain't that bad but you Americans (?) seem to really hate it. Damn, the U.S government is good with propaganda.
Thanks for keeping it primarily objective. History, like life, is always in shades of gray. To speak of it as either black or white is oversimplifying it.
Why haven't I discovered this amazing channel before? You've covered topics even channels that go deep into minutiae don't go, like The Great War channel. Excellent content. Btw, it would be really nice to see you talking about the taking of Monte Castello!
Canadian here and this video came up on my feed, some excellent work here, the situation in World War 2 in Eastern Europe was a huge mess of different warring sides and I am glad you gave a nuanced discussion of events. Not the simple ohh all Ukrainians who fought the Bolsheviks were heroes or the nonsensical all Ukrainians were Nazis we get currently from the Kremlin, keep up the great work.
Небольшая пометка от русской: ни разу не слышала от официального лица государства (да и от остальных людей из Кремля типа пресс-секретаря и прочих), что "все украинцы были нацистами". У нас громадное количество украинцев живет в стране, на всех наших памятниках, посвященных погибшим, есть фамилии абсолютно разных национальностей, в том числе и украинцев. И это прекрасно все знают. Потому что здесь живут их потомки. Но никто и не отрицает, что часть украинцев перешла на сторону немцев, в лице так называемых "бандеровцев" ( например, моя прапрабабушка была украинкой, пережила войну и до конца своей жизни говорила, что она "бандеровцев" ненавидит больше, чем немцев). Поэтому в России все прекрасно знают, насколько расколота была Украина еще давно. И что в ней были не только "бандеровцы", но и хорошие, смелые люди.
as a Ukrainian I will say a couple of comments. Firstly, thank you for trying to tell us about such a complex topic as Ukrainian nationalism of those times, although briefly. personally, I would start with the events of the First World War (about how the national movements of both Poland and Ukraine got the opportunity to find their own state after the collapse of the Russian empire), because the hostilities between Ukrainians and Poles began even before Hitler and the Nazis came to power in Germany. Here one could mention that when a war actually began between the nationalists, there were large forces and resources on the side of Poland, so the WUPR lost this war, and the Ukrainian nationalists went underground. the Entente countries supported the Poles (this is logical based on the resources of Poland), as they saw a threat in the USSR and did not want to weaken Poland with the support of the Ukrainians. the USSR and Germany of those times were rogue countries for Europe, therefore they quickly concluded a non-aggression pact (and divided Poland), and already in this connection the reason for Germany's support of Ukrainian nationalism in Poland becomes clear (in 1923 in Munich there were intelligence courses for Ukrainian nationalism and cooperation with time only grew, although the Ukrainian nationalists had splits, so when World War 2 began, it is worth dwelling on some moments of history separately). as for the OUN, it split into OUN (b), under the leadership of Stepan Bander, who believed that freedom and independence can only be obtained in battle, and neither the Poles nor Germany or the Entente countries need an independent Ukraine, and the OUN (m) under the leadership of Melnik, who preferred peaceful methods and I saw in the Germans those without whom it would not be possible to achieve independent Ukraine. oun (b) (in my opinion) initially dissuaded Ukrainians from joining the Roland and Nachtigal battalions, maybe in the SS Galicia (here I forgot a lot so I'm not sure) because Bandera saw in the Germans those who can cause serious damage to the USSR and then Germany itself would weaken and there would be a great chance of gaining independence, and then they still agitated to join and desert, so Bandera wanted to train in these military units those who, after deserting from the Wehrmacht troops, would become military of independent Ukraine. however, when the Bandera proclaimed the independence of Ukraine, their leadership was put in concentration camps and the rest were shot, and after Bandera was released, he could not take any important place among the nationalists because he spent almost the entire war in a concentration camp and the younger generation of nationalists had not so much other ideas of statehood had their own ambitions and did not consider those who did not fight as those who were worthy to lead them. the oun(m) also seemed to be trying to proclaim statehood, but they were also imprisoned, although they were soon released. it is very difficult to say something unambiguously about the attitude towards nationalism of those times, most Ukrainians have among their ancestors those who fought in the red army, in schools not much time is devoted to this topic, or it seems to me because I did not study history well. therefore, in society, many people know about nationalists what they told their parents or older generations in the USSR, and since nationalists were primarily interested in independence, the view for a long time was quite unambiguous due to the fact that the USSR saw the fighters for independence as enemies, on the other hand there are a relatively large number of those who were in those very nationalist organizations, therefore, although they considered joining the Ukrainian SSR to unite with the Ukrainians, they still considered occupation because of the dictatorship of Moscow. National themes, not to mention Nazism, are not that much of a concern, there are quite a lot of Jews in Ukraine, there are small peoples whose language and culture are protected according to the laws of interethnic conflicts were not observed, especially unlike the Russian Federation where there were 2 Chechen wars recently and national issues are more tense there, etc. so many Ukrainians are not that have radical views towards other peoples, rather it is respect for our ancestors who fought for a country where our language will not be banned, our culture, where famous athletes, artists, scientists will be recognized as Ukrainians, and despite the difficult and tragic moments in the common history with all our neighbors, prejudice is considered marginal (except for those neighbors who attacked us back in 2014 and believe that Ukrainians should either become Russian or be destroyed). I think there is a lot more to add here (for example, that in Europe after the First World War there was no talk of democracy: a civil war began in Spain, the Nazis came to power in Italy, the Nazis came to power in Germany, the fascist regime was in Austria since 1933, yes and in Poland they believed that the same Ukrainians should be turned into Poles, etc.), although I am not a historian, so if there are errors in my reasoning, please indicate, otherwise thanks again for touching on this topic.
Poland has the same difficult situation (trapp). The Nazis never managed to create any SS troops from Poles, in Poland, every country in Europe had such Nazi troops locally anyway
Part 4. The SS division "Galicia", formed by the Nazis from among the inhabitants of Western Ukraine, is again at the hearing - for several days the scandal around the participation of government officials in the official honoring of the "legionnaires" from the Ukrainian SS who died in the battle of Brody has not subsided. Kyiv has a new president, but the Nazi mainstream still prevails. July 27 marks the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Lviv from the Nazi invaders by the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front. In post-Maidan Ukraine, this is a "holiday that does not exist", and in calmer times it was celebrated mainly on the Left Bank. For political Ukrainians, this historical event is presented in a black light, since it is inextricably linked with the defeat of the "heroes of Ukraine" from the SS division "Galicia" in the battle of Brody. On July 18, 1944, the troops of two Soviet tank armies under the command of Generals Rybalko and Lelyushenko broke through the German defenses to a depth of 80 km along a front width of 200 km and closed eight fascist divisions (65 thousand bayonets) in the cauldron near Brody, including Galicia. Pilots of the 2nd Air Army helped the Soviet tankmen from the air to iron the encircled. The blow was so strong that at least 30 thousand enemy soldiers and officers died in the cauldron, and another 17 thousand were captured. On this occasion, mourning events were held in Western Ukraine this year, and employees of the Ministry of Defense were involved in the celebrations, which caused bewilderment of the sensible public. Western-based millionaire Yevgeny Chernyak from Zaporozhye, known for his Khortytsya vodka, expressed a characteristic reaction on his blog: “The Armed Forces of Ukraine participated in the honors: the anthem sounded and flags fluttered in honor of the SS men, attention, members of the punitive battalions, which were particularly cruel. Are you there in general, or what, have you moved your brains ?! Give honors to fascists?!” The businessman is also interested: “If the army does nothing without an order, is it possible to find out the name of the person who gave the order to commit this immoral act? Can you hear the reaction of embassies, ambassadors, human rights organizations?” However, instead of ambassadors and human rights activists, a crowd of scandalized Bandera people ran into Chernyak’s feed with recommendations to “learn history”, “not to succumb to Soviet propaganda” and even “hire a consultant so that next time you don’t get into a puddle.” The most savvy began to explain to Chernyak that: 1. The Nuremberg Tribunal did not recognize "Galicia" as a criminal organization. 2. "Legionnaires" of "Galicia" cannot be judged as Soviet citizens. "They are not traitors, they just made their choice." 3. "Read the materials of the Deschen Commission - they say everything:" Galicia "is not Nazis and not criminals." It is interesting that even Chernyak, known for his tough temper, seems to have faltered before the onslaught of Bandera, promising to study the issue and, if necessary, take back his words. We answer Bandera in order. 1. The inhuman regime of Nazi Germany was tried at the Nuremberg Tribunal for the war crimes and crimes against humanity it had committed. Hitler's closest associates, guilty of unleashing the war and organizing genocide, fell into the dock. It was not part of the function of the court to judge a small collaborationist fry. The punishment of Hitler's henchmen was within the jurisdiction of the authorities of those states whose citizens went over to the service of the Nazi occupiers. The decision of the Nuremberg Tribunal does not give rise to discrepancies: the entire organization of the SS is recognized as criminal. From which it follows that the Ukrainian "legionnaires" from the Waffen SS division "Galicia", who swore allegiance directly to Hitler and obeyed the orders of the German command, are war criminals with all the ensuing consequences of this wording. To sweeten the “Svidomo” pill a little, we inform you that all SS, both “general” and troops, including native formations, are considered war criminals: Belgian, French, Norwegian, Scandinavian, Croatian, Bosnian, Belarusian, Russian, Baltic, Albanian, and not just Ukrainian fasces in the service of the Third Reich. In addition, it is documented that, after the defeat near Brody, the Nazis replenished "Galicia" from the reserve (over 60 thousand volunteers), who did not fall into the first set (14 thousand "legionnaires") and then used it to suppress the Slovak uprising and in punitive operations against the Yugoslav partisans. Simply because the combat value of the "Galicians" was near zero. Not so long ago, another dirty detail became known. Documents were found showing that the Germans attracted separate units of the "Galicia" to protect the Dembica concentration camp in Poland, where the Slavs and Hungarians were kept. According to eyewitnesses, the "norm" of executions in this camp was 100-300 people a day. "Galicians" were directly involved in the killings and abuse of prisoners. 2. At the end of the war, in April 1945, when the collapse of Nazism was no doubt, part of the Galicia division mimics the Ukrainian National Army (UNA). This "change of shoes" allows Hitler's henchmen to get rid of the prefix "SS" and surrender to the Allied forces on acceptable terms. From internment in the USSR, for which the participants of the "Galicia" were collaborators, the "legionnaires" were saved by repainting in the Poles. The Western allies, for reasons that they could be useful in the future struggle against the USSR, scum smeared with blood, considered that the “Galicians” were more likely citizens of Poland, and not of the Ukrainian SSR. The intercession of the Vatican also helped, since most of the "Galicians" of the division were Uniates or Catholics. It is strange that the “fighters for Ukraine” who surrendered did not want to call themselves immigrants from Ukraine. However, what you can’t do to avoid a soapy rope ... But in general, most of the surviving members of the division settled in the United States and Canada, where, for selfish reasons, an “alternative point of view” was adopted, which they are now trying to forcefully impose not only on Ukraine, but on the rest of the world - as if the “Galicians” hated the Germans, but so much they wanted an independent Ukraine, that they served the occupier. From here the legs of nonsense grow, as if the "Galicians" are not related to the Waffen SS, but were "Sich Riflemen", who at one fine moment turned their weapons against the Germans. Cunning Plan, in general. 3. Commission of Jules Deschen. It was organized in 1985 by decree of Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney after numerous signals and even parliamentary inquiries that in the 40 post-war years Canada had become a haven for Nazi criminals. The work of the commission took place under severe pressure from the Ukrainian and Baltic diasporas of Canada, which gave shelter to many fleeing SS "legionnaires". The Diasporans demanded that the members of the commission not accept documentary evidence from the USSR and its allies from the countries of Eastern Europe. Well, that is, from where the native SS most of all inherited blood. In the process, the commission put forward so many requirements for the procedure for reviewing incoming materials that, in the end, it was forced to refuse to study evidence from the places where crimes were committed by Nazi collaborators. The result of the work of the Deschen commission with a clear conscience can be called zilch. Of the 741 names of declared war criminals, the commission found visible corpus delicti in 20 suspects from the submitted list. By the end of 1986, the Commission had provided the Government of Canada with documents on 20 suspects with its own recommendations for the conduct of each case. As far as is known, no one had been convicted of war crimes in Canada by 1998. Most of the defendants in the case died a natural death, two chose to leave the country, four more were acquitted for one reason or another. The Deschen commission did not make any legal assessments regarding the Waffen SS division "Galicia" - this was not part of its authority. It is absurd to use the conclusions of the commission as evidence of the innocence of the "Galicians". With the same success, you can quote the instructions for the washing machine. However, this generally refers to the evidence base attracted by political Ukrainians and other mankurts to whitewash Hitler's henchmen.
My auntie who lived in Yorkshire England was married to a Ukrainian who was apparently a POW in a nearby camp. As a kid I used to ask him about the war and what he did in the fighting , but he never wanted to tell me anything and would get very angry with me if I kept on the subject. I'm 58years old and only found out years later that he served in the SS . You can imagine how that made me feel as I thought he was good man at the time, but how wrong I was. 🤬👎
Fighting for the SS doesnt make you bad unless its proven he commited war crimes. Even in the SS not even a fraction of them commited war crimes. Only select SS battalions were assigned to do such things
Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Wasyl Weryha in the book “Dorohami druhoj switowoj wijny. Lehendy pro uwast Ukrainiment in the Warsaw Uprising 1944 ... ”(Toronto 1980) proves that the Ukrainian Waffen SS division Galizien (Hałyczyna) did not participate in the pacification of the Warsaw Uprising. However, it is a fact that the 150-person Ukrainian police company stationed at Aleja Szucha belonged to the SS Galizien, as A. Borkiewicz writes in his work "Powstanie Warszawskie" (Warsaw 1957), and even Kazimierz Podlaski (p. 97) considers it probable. ). Thus, the history of SS Galizien is also stained with the blood of the insurgents and the population of Warsaw. The crowning evidence that SS Galizien soldiers were in Warsaw during the Warsaw Uprising is, among others, the fact that these Ukrainian SS-men spoke Polish (Aleksander Kamiński "Zośka i Parasol", 3rd edition, Warsaw 1979). So they were Ukrainians from Galicia (where the volunteers for the SS Galizien came from), because the Ukrainians from Russian Ukraine did not speak Polish. Also the German historian Hans von Krannhals, author of the book "Der Warschauer Aufstand 1944 ..." (Frankfurt am Main 1962), proves that there was a company of the SS Galizien division in Warsaw.
@@HistoryHustle It is in the news, and "waffen SS" is trending on twitter.. Zelensky, Trudeau and the soldier were all in the parliament.. It was standing ovation.
@@HistoryHustle A 98 Ukrainean war veteran named Yaroslav Hunka was invited to visit the house of commons by the head speaker, he was introduced as a hero of Ukraine and a freedom fighter and was given 2 standing ovations by the whole parliament, it was only after the event happened that his past in the Galician SS was revealed and it made everyone flip their lid.
"It's complicated ..." sometimes history is just not as straightforward as we would like and for the Ukraine, caught between a rock and a hard place says it all.
Which was the rock and a hard place? They were just fascist. Didn't a Ukrainian Khrushchev become leader of the USSR? Most of the Soviet industries were built in Ukraine, so what was their problem?
@@yawos9024 Khrushchev was ethnical Russian, he was born in Kursk region, Russian Empire. His wife was Ukrainian, that's why he was wearing Ukrainian traditional shirt. And he was one who resposible for Holodomor and other repressions in Ukraine
@@HistoryHustle you said the SS units weren’t created until after Stalingrad, who were the Ukrainians who quite proudly massacred all of the Jews at Babi Yar?
Only 10 of approximately 100 ukrainian nationalist will commemorate them , most of ukrainian nationalists supports OUN-B and UPA , that fought both soviets and germans
@@solis9482 Although they wore German uniforms, they were also Ukrainian heroes. Germany lied to these Ukrainians because Bandera just declared Ukraine's independence. He was caught by the Gestapo. These Ukrainians who joined the German army had no idea. At least their motive for joining Germany was not to bully and slaughter Ukrainians. But for the freedom of Ukraine, they are for the freedom and democracy of Ukraine like the UPA
@@hanswong287 they were so stupid that they thought they would fight on a par with the Germans. Stupid Ukrainians from the western part of the country constantly forget that they are Slavs, with what eastern
The SS Galizien POWs were moved to Canada on the request of the Brits. Had they been moved to the USSR, they would have been killed. Those Ukrainians who were moved to Canada had not been citizens of the USRR before September 1, 1939.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Russian propaganda in action. Those people were fighting for the sovereignty of their motherland, occupied by Russians, Poles, Hungarians, etc. At the time, the enemy of Russia, fascist Germany, seemed to be an ally in a fight against communism. PS Hungary at that time was full-blown fascist ally. Similarly, Romania and official Italy. So, don’t make a hustle out of the fact.
Когда украинец Хрущев был во власти при СССР амнистировал и выпустил этих убийц,насильников и грабителей из лагерей.Они спокойно доживали свой век и в СССР.
One interesting aspect is that many Ukrainians died while opposing the atrocities committed by Ukrainian nationalists or SS members. There wasn't a strong support for the crimes committed against Jews and Poles, thus giving way to a stronger support for the Soviets.
@@frenzalrhomb6919 There is an official talk between Poland and Ukraine regarding the WW2 atrocities on former Polish ground, for which you can easily find info on the Internet. The topic is highly sensitive and complex and, while some Poles want to classify the massacres as genocide, there is the fact that Ukrainians also died at the hands of Ukrainian nationalists because they refused to take part in these or even collaborating with the Soviet partisans.
@@georgecostan3248 100 - 150 ths People died in torture - there were 362 ways to kill a Pole, only because you were a Pole on your own land, they chased them even when they tried to escape, civilians were attacked from children to old people, the UPA had support in the locals Ukrainians, villages were mainly attacked, not the nobility, because it it was after the soviets deportations, yes, there were Ukrainians who helped, praise them! , but there was a margin, the property was plundered, the rest was burned; upa were written to germans to start a holocaust on the Poles because the Jews had already been killed, the Germans refused to agree, they were afraid of the Ukrainians, they were fired them from the service, the Poles who escaped until the end of their lives were hiding or were traumatized. The history is not simple, it was only Western Ukraine, the conditions were difficult, but it is really difficult to understand the scale of cruelty, so it was genocide. Ukrainians arent bad, but they should cut themselves off from these anti heroes, they have better ones to follow now. We need to live in truth. Only after that they can be free and develop.
Thank you for sharing this video. I have always had a hard time understanding the Ukrainians' involvement with the Nazis. While much still remains clear as mud, this was very helpful.
another great vídeo.very Nice this vídeos about Formations.What about the Finish or the Bretons who serve with the german army or in the SS. This vídeos contains lots of information about foreign volunters in german army or in the SS.Not a usual topic.well done!!!
Nice One of these days i Will sent to you some photos and contents about portuguese soldiers who fight in the Eastern front i know you only saw a broken link in the NET but here in Portugal we have more information.it is a non spoken subject here in Portugal.At most our historians talk about Mocidade Portuguesa,which was a youth movement during our ditactorship,mor or less like the HJ. Like Spain we portuguese,also have a fascist goverment in the previus century,with the leader Antonio Oliveira Salazar.
It is a big difference fighting on the Frontline against regular army or being involve in massacres of the civilians .the whole Ukrainian nationalist were involved in genocides.
there was a mutiny in France of Ukrainian ss who shoot their german officers and staff then deserted to the french resistance after the war they join the french legion fighting in Indochina
@@HistoryHustle indeed some SS were admitted in the Legion, some of them joined a special unit within the legion created by the President De Gaulle(1965-1966). These were the only SS the Israeli Knesset asked for ending their contract estimating they had done their pitance(1973). This is also the only unit in the French army of which all members received the 'Legion d'Honneur' for their exploits in operations for the UN Security Council.
Great video Stefan!:) just one question not about just ukraine. The german anti-partisan operations: a lot massacres happened during these both east and west. How could they handle this effectively ? What would be a good strategy? I think about a lot but it’s very difficult I think. Sorry my bad english:)
Hi Adem, Thanks for watching. About your question. I think the best way was to befriend the locals. But due to the racial doctrines of the Nazis this was never an option to go full into. Mass violence was part of the Nazi ideology to maintain order. It backfired in most cases.
The UPA involved in genocide of hundreds of thousand Poles, Jews,Hungarian civilians is honored with monuments by present government and their allies closed eye on this subject.
Great hustle, indeed. You've danced well among the multiple ambiguities of the Rock, Hard Place & aspirations of a tortured People. Of course, Comrade Stalin's earlier seizure of Ukrainian grain was in constant memory of everyone involved. Bravo analysis & commentary! 🎉🎉
Another excellent summary of a complex topic. We are following the present tragic war and hoping it ends soon with Ukraine keeping access to the sea but not hopeful as there are forces outside of the combat zone who want the war to continue.
Ну, я не это имел в виду, но это был бы один из способов положить конец. Я бы предпочел, чтобы Украина не имела выхода к морю. В таком же состоянии находятся и другие европейские страны, и из-за этого ЕС легко их принуждает. Жаль, что у Хунланда после Второй мировой войны не отобрали все побережье Балтики.@@ДенисС-п6щ
Russian Collaboration in WW2:
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Belarusian Collaboration in WW2:
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Cossack Collaboration in WW2:
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Ow this links you mean?
Больше про Ирландскую Республиканскую Армию рассказывай, Шотландский сепаратизм, Гибралтар и Фолкленды.
@@000hellraiser666 yes
@@2БП-430 "Tell more about the Irish Republican Army, Scottish separatism, Gibraltar and the Falklands."
Perhaps one day.
0:50 I know English ain’t your native tongue. Hence , just a suggestion from me.
I think Current map would have been more appropriate than Recent Map.
It's a pity the speaker at Canada's House of Commons hadn't seen your videos before inviting a Gallician SS veteran to Zelensky's visit. With the chief of Canada's military seated almost next to the veteran and enthusiastically applauding him, it's clear that many Canadians need more history lessons like this.
Very unlucky event.
@@HistoryHustle At least videos like yours provide a fair history lesson to explain how such an error might have happened and offer a good resource to bring Canadians up to speed on a complex and tragic history.
Those MORONS should not just quit the job but the planet as well
You don't think having a basic knowledge of history would've been better? Does the entire west forget that it was Russia defeating the nazi's in ww2?
It's a pity that the Speaker had to fall on the sword. Where was the vetting process? How did not one member of Parliament not know about the Waffen SS?
Given What's happened in the Canadian Parliament a couple of days ago I would say this video aged very well as history always does.
Well done with this piece of work. Keep doing what you doing.
This topic is now all of a sudden front and center on everybody's mind. If only we could all pay more attention to history
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Thanks for watching.
yeah really, good thing the Speaker (the guy who invited Hunka and didn't tell anybody he was going to do that) lost his job.
Yep, exactly. Spot on!
Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
@@АндрейКазанцев-ы8м9ь Soviet Putin propaganda. Do remember the Soviet Nazis, Soviet duplicity, and that more people died under Stalin's control than Hitler.
These Nazis are not only celebrated in "small Ukrainian circles" Canada’s House of Commons just gave a rousing standing ovation to a Ukrainian veteran who fought in the SS Galicia unit. Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery when he was described as a “Ukrainian hero” and a “Canadian hero” to applause from prime minister Justin Trudeau and president Volodymyr Zelensky.
That was an unfortunate mistake. The Parliament has apologized.
@@HistoryHustle Well this “Canadian hero” as he was described was fully vetted. So they knew exactly who he was
@@craigraeside5706 If you had any understanding of how woke the Canadian government is (even worse than the U.S.) you wouldn't even ask that
@@watching99134 could we say that woke are ready to march arm by arm with nazis ?
Zelensky didn't hear that this guy fought Russia in ww2? Zelensky doesn't speak English?
Operation Paperclip is no longer a dirty secret. It is on full display in the US and Canada.
The mere fact that Canada and other countries allowed murderers to escape justice in 1947 speaks to their essence: in public they say one thing and do another. The names of all Ukrainian Nazis-Waffen SS division in the Second World War were recorded in the famous lists of Rimini. And Canada knew who it was harbouring and why. And to declare that the ovation of Nazism in the Parliament of Canada was a misunderstanding is simply inexcusable for all mankind.
Well said. If it was not for the Vatican, ALL these murderous rabid 14th Waffen SS Gallica Div. fanatics would have been handed over to the Soviet Union.
That is where these crimes were committed.
The Soviet Union is where, and who, should have administered the justice they deserved.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Bc Canada is not as good as you thought. The allies are also evil it just happen that they won the war
@@HistoryHustle - The curator and sponsor of “Azov” are the country’s former Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, oligarchs Igor Kolomoisky and Renat Akhmetov. US congressmen even talked about this in 2014.
@@HistoryHustleкакая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
You have a lot of balls to make a video about this subject during these hard times
HUGE respect
I'll live. Thanks.
hope you make a video about how the western powers setup this war we are having now @@HistoryHustle
We need to be honest about history. I support Ukraine but it’s history has some pretty dark moments as well.
Why should being truthful be so exceptional?
@@djolivierastro depends what truth's you tell and who doesn't want to hear them. The truth could cost you your friends, anything/everything. Plenty found that out, Mr assange just one. Dr David Kelly another,,, who thought saying ,,there are no WMD's could cost you your life?. 😮😢
Zelensky gave a standing ovation. But Trudeau blames Putin propaganda.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
@@HistoryHustlecountry is run by those bastards. It was clearly shown when Zelensky went to Donbass frontline and demanded for them to stop shelling "separatists" and they quite clearly denied and told him he will be hanged if he tries to interfere.
@@HistoryHustleAzov battalion is not just one unit, its a nationwide movement with hundreds of thousands of members, with youth camps etc.
Then there's Aidar, Right Sector, Tornado, Galichina...
@@HistoryHustlefighting for the soviet union is no different than fighting in the axis side. They themselves are disgusting rpist invaders
@@HistoryHustle bandera is their national hero now, lmao
Westoids like you are disgusting with their CIA hanbooks lies
This is appreciated. There is always so much more to the story. Thanks for giving us something other than our Hollywood historians bubble gum version!
Thanks for watching.
It's strange that anyone finds this to be new information. While he did a great job with detail, information about this has never been suppressed. It's been readily available and easily accessible for decades. You just didn't care. You put down other sources of information because you failed to know about this years ago. It was there, in the open, all the time.
In one invasion scene in Saving Private Ryan, two apparently German soldiers attempt to surrender and are shot. They were speaking Ukrainian. The producers of the movie knew about the Ukrainians who joined the Germans. You didn't even realize the soldiers weren't speaking German. Now you act as if this was a narrative-breaking revelation. Thank him for a nicely-produced detail piece on a bit of history; but thanking him for bringing something new speaks poorly for your own grasp of the obvious.
Either way, what this sheds light on has more to do with how Putin's twisted use of this history affects a portion of the Russian population... Putin's true audience... than on whether or not the unprovoked invasion (meaning Ukraine did not use violence against Russia prior to the invasion) of Ukraine is in some way justified.
@Skip: I think most people don't read much history and depend on TH-cam.
@@skipdreadman8765 They were speaking Czech not Ukrainian. Also in his defense not everyone is a scholar of ww2 and learning more about history is always a good thing even if he was a bit late.
@@skipdreadman8765 No, those soldiers were speaking Czech. Somewhat similar in language, but overall vastly different.
Part 1. For "Galicia" and the police regiments later included in its composition, operations began with counter-partisan actions. Since February 1944, the Bayersdorf combat group, according to various sources, up to 2 thousand people, operated near Lviv. Gradually, other parts of the division were drawn into anti-partisan actions. They didn't care about cleanliness. So, in February, the SS police regiment (at that time not related to the division) broke into the village of Guta Penyatska, which was considered a stronghold of the partisans. The first attack was repulsed, but soon the Ukrainian Nazis nevertheless took it by storm, after which they slaughtered the population and burned the settlement itself. The SS carried out a series of attacks on villages, killing civilians. In Poland, these acts of violence are rightly qualified as genocide. Galician policemen episodically managed to make war with partisans even in France. But soon they were to face a real enemy.
The baptism of fire of the "Galicia" units in the battles against the regular forces of the Red Army turned out to be frankly not inspiring. The 4th Galician SS police regiment, which occupied Zbarazh, was attacked by the vanguards of the 4th Guards on the evening of March 5. tank corps of the Red Army. Parts of the regiment were defeated and part retreated from the city. In addition, the 3rd battalion of the 4th regiment was lost in the "Ternopil fortress". A unit of 588 people ended up in the city at the moment when the Russians surrounded it. In total, 4422 people were isolated there, so the Ukrainian SS men made up a significant part of it. By April 17, 1944, after a three-week siege, the Ternopil garrison was almost completely destroyed, almost no one survived from the Galicia battalion. The defeat of the battalion in Ternopil was only the first sign of real trouble.
June 30, 1944 "Galicia" went to the front. By this time, it was a serious force - more than 15 thousand bayonets, of which more than 14 thousand Ukrainians and a thousand Germans. For the Wehrmacht and the SS, this was the standard number of a well-equipped formation.
The positions of the division were near Brody as part of the XIII Army Corps of the Wehrmacht. The division occupied a front of 8 km, which allowed it to create a fairly dense defense.
However, the battles near Brody turned out to be a complete disaster for the Wehrmacht and the SS in general, and for Galicia in particular. The Lvov-Sandomierz operation of the Red Army began on July 13, and by the 14th, a hole was already gaping in the Wehrmacht defense line south of Brody. They tried to use "Galicia" to counterattack and stop the breakthrough. The counterattack was scheduled for 8 o'clock in the morning on July 15, and in the 6th position of "Galicia" the Russians had already attacked the forces of approximately a rifle division, reinforced with tanks and assault aircraft. The 30th regiment was practically defeated and rolled back. To the south of the positions of "Galicia" a gap formed - the so-called Koltovsky corridor, into which Soviet troops poured. Attacks on the rear began - on July 17, the Soviet cavalrymen who broke through defeated the communications battalion "Galicia". July 18 "Galicia" was surrounded along with the main forces of the German corps. Panic began to grow in parts of the division, by July 19, under the constant attacks of the Red Army, it became practically uncontrollable and broke up into separate parts. On the same day, the artillery regiment of the division was defeated.
The attempt to break through to the south allowed several groups of Germans and Ukrainian SS men to leave. On the whole, however, the Russians won a brilliant victory.
Among those who emerged from the encirclement was the German division commander Freitag, who immediately after the breakthrough scolded his Ukrainian subordinates, accusing them of cowardice and incompetence. In total, not so much remained of the fifteen thousandth division. More than a thousand people of the rear and spare parts were outside the encirclement initially, and about 2.5 thousand left the boiler. In total, the commanders managed to gather 3.6 thousand people, the rest were out of action. True, some of the rest did not die, but deserted and went to the nationalist formations of the UPA. About 9,600 people died, up to a thousand were captured.
Restoration of the division.
It turned out to be surprisingly easy to revive the defeated division thanks to the huge reserve training regiment, which numbered almost 9 thousand people. Freitag remained its commander. Already in September 1944, "Galicia" received a new task. It was the usual punitive work - this time to suppress the Slovak uprising. Of course, it was difficult to completely restore Galicia in such a short time, so a battalion combat group of one and a half thousand bayonets first went to Slovakia from its composition. Since the beginning of October, "Galicia" has been fighting near the Babina station. However, at the end of October, the entire division was already redeployed to Slovakia.
Surrounded and suffering from a lack of ammunition, the Slovak rebels, of course, were not such a formidable enemy as the regular forces of the Red Army. However, the Ukrainian SS had to fight with them again. At the end of December 1944, parts of the division acted against Soviet troops breaking through into Slovakia. The SS battle group was thrown back from the advanced positions in the village of Yablonovets to the village of Pukanets. She could also lose a fart, but the Russians were pushed back by the Germans who came to the rescue.
As a fighting force, the Ukrainian SS division completely compromised itself, but as an anti-partisan formation it was still useful to the Nazis. Therefore, her next task was to fight against the rebels and partisans in the Balkans. In the winter of 1945, the 14th division was transferred to Slovenia, near Maribor. The prospects, however, were clearly bleak, so the division suffered seriously from desertion. Everyone understood that the Nazis did not expect anything good ahead. Soldiers sometimes left in whole units with weapons. True, it was a long way from Slovenia and Slovakia to Ukraine, and the Germans usually successfully caught and returned these fugitives.
Thanks for taking the time to share this additional information.
That is appalling..... Shame on Canada for harboring war criminals.
You are so underrated, I am new to the channel and started watching since yesterday and I really appreciate your hard work, you have a great uploading schedule while making quality content and going in depth with your videos, people can learn a lot from your videos and I will recommend this to my friends, it's hard to find a youtuber this passionate, keep up the good work Stefan!
Very nice to read. Many thanks for your reply.
Excellent work. BZ.
Ukraninian SS were also used in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to dispatch the Jews.
Any plans for a video on the Ukranian auxiliary units that were renowned for their brutal efficiency?
Not only in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, but also during the 1944 Uprising in Warsaw (google Wola massacre). Moreover, they were used as guards in death camps.
@@user-py4xc7nu5w Over zealous in their work.
The infamous TRAWNIKI men...
@@daviddoran3673 Search Schutzmannschaft battalion 201 dead zone. Read the article titled Rehearsal for Volhynia
Thank you....I will!!
I learnt about this units existence not more than an hour ago while watching an episode of the "Soviet Storm" series. Its a good way of keeping your mind fresh about the important events on the eastern front.
Excellent video!
Thanks for replying.
Absolutely an eye opening historical lecture to me - so much more going on in Eastern Europe during WW2 between the Russians and the Germans than what I knew about! Ukraine, especially, had far more going on than I learned from my University History Courses. Thank you very much for your hard work in historical research and your excellent presentations on this history!
Awesome to read, James. Many thanks for your message!
read Snyder's Bloodlands, and look at his online blog....U History course rarely cover this material
@HistoryHustle какая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
The more I learn about the Ukraine past and present the less I respect….
This unit is pretty insignificant in comparison to 6 million Ukrainians who served in Red Army, so don't see Ukrainians as nazis
I agree. Most of them fought against the Nazis.
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I am not a fan of this azov group either. I don’t know why the west chooses to excuse this.
@@chevy4x466 i'd say that everyone excuses azov because Ukraine desperately need a fighting forces, letting to fight to anyone who is willing to do so
Well done Stefan. The truth is often reprehensible and easier avoided. I'm pleased you did this...other channels are sympathetic because they think it's expected of them.
Thanks for watching.
Guenther Deschner „Warsaw rising” (London 1972) - We remember how Ukrainians suppressed the Warsaw Uprising. We remember how she plays the role of KAPO in German extermination camps. We remember the SS galizien, Nachtigall, We remember the ideology of Dymytro Doncov. We remember Melnyk, Bandera, Szuchwycz and other bestries.
We remember the massacre of the innocent and the generally unmentioned "GENOCIDIUM ATROIX" in Eastern Lesser Poland.
We, Poles, require an apology and exhumation.
Ok. Don't think that apology will appear...
@@HistoryHustle I think so too. It is sad. Poles are a Latin civilization and in our cultural code there is a glorification of the defensive war - 'chivalrous' and 'limiting morality' (Feliks Koneczny). Today we help a lot of Ukrainians who are fleeing.
But I'm afraid we'll only lose out on this. Our country is poor, tired of wars, 50 years of communism, and today the rationing of rich EU countries. The hostile potential is deliberately destroyed. And on top of that, there was a "e*pidemic" and a strange war at our eastern neighbor. I hope it will be fine, but the Polish proverb says "hope is the mother of the fools". Tkanks for your work i very like your channel.
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"Ojczyzna to ziemia i groby - narody tracąc pamięć tracą życie" - Homeland is the land and tombs - peoples, losing memory, losing life. Monument to the victims of the Ukrainian genocide (Polish. Pomnik ofiar ukraińskiego ludobójstwa) - a monument located in the territory of the Kraków Rakowitska cemetery. It is dedicated to the victims of the Volyn massacre committed by Ukrainian nationalists during World War II. The famous monument to the victims of the Volyn massacre in Wroclaw engraved the words of Adam Mickiewicz from the poem "Dziada": "Jesli o zaponichmne, jestes niebianski, zapomnij o mnie!" - "If I forget about them, you, God in heaven, forget about me". The assistance of the Polish government to Nazi Banderov Ukraine is a mockery of the memory of the fallen. According to various estimates, 30 to 60 thousand people were killed in the Volyn massacre, and in total in Western Ukraine - up to 100 thousand. Ukrainian nationalists No one was spared - no children, no women, no old people. The victims were shot, but mostly hacked with axes, bludgeoned to death with clubs, sawed, and had their bellies cut with pitchforks. The atrocities of Ukrainian nationalists surprised even the Nazis. Erykh Koh, head of the Reich Commissariat of Ukraine, said: "I need a Pole when meeting a Ukrainian to kill a Ukrainian, and vice versa, that the Ukrainian kill a Polish. If they shoot a Jew on the way, that’s exactly what I want... We don’t need Russians, Ukrainians, Poles. We need fertile land". See the Polish film "Volyn"…
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Did I know about Ukranian SS, their history, they're insignia, and the organizations currently using these?
Absolutely. My father and his family were from Drohobycz in Eastern Galicia. My father and his immediate family joined partisans and killed Ukrainian fascists and other Nazi collaborators. Other family members were killed by SS with the aid of Ukranian collaborators.
Thanks for your reply.
@Sternchen *in Your granddad is a hero.
30 SS was Ukrainian too
@Sternchen *in respect
@Sternchen *in my grand grandad worked with polish forces to get rid of these people
Canada can be so proud SS Galizien Waffen SS 98 years old Yaroslav Hunka is now an official Canadian and Ukrainian hero 😅😅
It was a dumb move to applaud for a man without a proper background check. Do notice the Canadian parliament did apologize.
@@HistoryHustle
But no apologize for Russia and Belarus
@@HistoryHustle why call s it dumb when I as a guy in Belgium 54y knows Canada and Russia were allies in WW2, making Yaroslav and his buddies the enemy . Chrystia Freeland grandfather Chomiak was a Ukro nazi and daddy and herself are seen in meetings with those vets and holding black and red Bandera flags
@@HistoryHustle without a proper background check? Fake
Back home in my ex Yugoslavia during school time everyone had History as a subject for 8 years.We studied from beginning of History to modern times.That’s we better understand what happening in the World right now.
It's easy to see why modern Ukrainian ultra nationalists are sympathetic to Third Reich motifs. Among other things, the Ukrainian Waffen SS troops have that carefully cultivated Nazi heroic look that is still appealing today. The power of aesthetics on ideology is considerable.
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Why were the Nazis so Stylish?
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"Ultra nationalists" 😂
Don't create new sensless words my friend, those pathethic filth and their modern descendants called faschists (or nazists if you want).
@@ПетрВрангель-т8п
No. "Nazi" and "fascist" are propaganda terms. Ultra Nationalist better describes them. Either way, the USA is funneling billions of dollars in weaponry to them. Hopefully this won't end in WW3.
Let's hope WW3 won't happen.
@@HistoryHustle
You can say that again. Putin, Zelensky and the USA are playing with fire and people on both sides are cheering them on. As a student of war history I hate it.
Great episode
My great grandfather was born the first year Poland became a country and he was conscripted into the Soviet Red Army and became radio operator, demolitions expert, translator of numerous languages while in Special forces and always told me he could not believe that the Ukrainian partisans his unit was aiding were telling him they killed some Ukrainian Waffen SS in an ambush
Thanks for sharing this.
Were they red partisans or UPA?
@@alekshukhevych2644 they were Soviet backed Partisans like in the movie Defiance
@@jtom68 Makes sense. What is interesting to note is that even OUN-UPA did not support Ukrainians joining the Waffen SS, although they did not kill them. Rather they would punish those caught and then take then into their ranks.
@@alekshukhevych2644 I don’t think they knew they were Ukrainian SS until after they killed them as most Partisans didn’t take prisoners
Germany formed SS units from most European countries. They even recruited a handful of British POW's into the SS.
Most. Not all. Some of us kept the clean cheek
@@djape1977Poland for instance. Ukraine still glorifies nazis.
Britain also have it but not that popular among the people iirc
@@Duchodso1It doesn’t. Outside of marginal and nationalist circles no. Knock off the bullshit
And in 2023 they receive standing ovations in Canadian Parliament! 😂
Not they only one and after it turned out he was an SS veteran the Parliament apologized. Nevertheless a stupid thing they did not check the man's background.
@@HistoryHustle Very true, beyond dumb considering they called the truckers what he actually was. I guess it’s better than here in America where they have a stadium still named after Von Braun. 🤦♂️
wow, those canadian truckers sure whine a lot. Are they still complaining about perceived insults? They sound like Trump supporters.@@the600seconds
@@HistoryHustle Why isn't this Nazi in jail ?
thank you and best regards from Poland. You show the truth to the world. thank you
Which truth are you referring to if I may ask? Lemme be clear that most Ukrainians fought against Germany.
@@HistoryHustle A ukry zabijające obrońców Lwowa znasz historię?
A ukraińcy mordujący Orlęta Lwowskie?
A Wołyń i nabijanie Polskich dzieci na sztachety przez ukrów znasz?
Rozpruwanie Polskich kobiet w ciąży przez ukrów znasz?
Hutę Pieniacką znasz i mordowanie Polaków przez ukrów?
Rzeź Woli w Powstaniu Warszawskim z udziałem ukrów i mordowanie przez nich ludności cywilnej znasz?
History Hustle please do not listen to people who say that the genocide on Volhynia is a Polish point of view. Poles want to talk and remember Volhynia. They are ukrainian who had grandfathers in the UPA and do not want to hear and remember Volhynia. Just Like a criminal who wants to hide his crimes. Dr Lucyna Kulińska who deals with the genocide of Volhynia wanted to conduct a series of lectures about Volhynia at Polish universites a few years ago. Dr. Kulińska was blocked when it comes to discussing the topic of genocide on Volhynia...After world war II it was also impossible to talk about Volhynia in Poland because many UB functionaries were in the UPA bands. This topic is also inconvenient of course for those descendants of ukrainian genocides. Please also take into account the fact that the people who miracously survived the genocide as a result of the trauma were not able to talk about its. This is already the duty of their grandchildren. Genocide crimes never expire.
More on it here:
th-cam.com/video/luFVfcW7yAE/w-d-xo.html
Didn't a unit of the Galician SS end up in Britain? They came from Rimini DPC where they were held as non-POWs. POW status implied their repatriation. DP did not. The British spirited them out in defiance of Soviet investigators who wanted them treated as POWs and to be repatriated to the USSR. This is from "Hitler's Foreign Executioners" by Christopher Hale. Many ended up in Canada, where they have had an effect on politics ever since.
I played with kids that were the sons of Ukrainians, in England in the 1960s. I had wondered, until recently, what they were doing in the country. Then I found out...
Could be. See if I can find info on it.
Read up on Flight Lt. Bohdan Panchuk
Yes perfectly TRUE. About 4000 to UK and 4000 to Canada
Yes, I know grandson of one of them
Нацисты в Канаде .запад как клоака .
One of the best history channel on YT.Appreciate all hard work you do preparing your material.
Many thanks Jan, great to read.
Great video. Another book worth looking up is Hitler's Foreign Executioners: Europe's Dirty Secret. By Christopher Hale. Though a bit long.
Thanks for sharing.
Stefan! Good to get a upload from you! Have a great weekend
Thanks!
Thank you for this balanced history lesson
Thanks Bart!
The most reliable message about those events that I read on You Tube. Respect.
Nobody in the house of common (Canadian Parliament in Ottawa) said : "Wait a minute, this guy (Yaroslav Hunka) fought the Russians during WWII, Russians (or more accurately Soviets (including Ukrainian people)) were our allies during WWII, this 98 years old guy was forcibly on the wrong side". Other thing, Zelenskyy is half Jewish by his father, his paternal grandfather was a Soviet officer and WWII veteran, many of his distant or close relatives were massacred by the Nazi and there Ukrainian collaborators, it's impossible that Zelenskyy ignore this kind of historical facts, he anyway applauded with great enthusiasm this SS Galician th14 Division veteran...
Be thankful that modern sionists don't use the Nazi salute.
Sovoet union was an ally of nazi germany.
Zelensky is more than a simple traitor methinks
As always another top class vid, and again if you had been my History teacher I would have attended every lesson. Great work 👍
Many thanks.
Love the channel trying to sort out this mess out. Great job.
Many thanks!!
Another video out at the right time! Having a phase about Ukraine and this helps a lot!
Thanks for watching.
Maaan, I LOVE your vids. So informative, engaging and well detailed. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
Awesome!
Came here to learn more about my ancestors! Thank you for sharing 🇺🇦🇨🇦
Thanks for watching.
Part 3. Subsequently, the surrendered soldiers of "Galicia" were never extradited to the USSR, later these people lived in exile as private individuals. During the war, about 33 thousand people passed through "Galicia", of which about 11-14 thousand (the discord was caused by the chaos of the last days of the war) were destroyed, a significant part were captured during the war or deserted.
Most of the SS from Galicia did not have any particular problems in connection with their SS past. Moreover, legal SS veteran organizations operated in Britain and America.
In Ukraine, the SS men are heroized rather for political reasons. Is the division "Galicia" involved in war crimes? Yes, definitely; and as an instrument of the Nazi regime as a whole, and specifically as a military unit. The press regularly cites the thesis according to which the Nuremberg Tribunal "did not recognize" the division as a criminal group; however, in Nuremberg, in principle, no specific military units were allocated; and moreover, specifically German criminals went on trial in Nuremberg, and not all in a row. The tribunal's position was formulated as follows:
In dealing with the SS, the Tribunal includes here all persons who have been formally accepted as members of the SS, including members of the "General SS", SS troops, SS "Totenkopf" formations and members of any kind of police services who were members of the SS. The Tribunal does not include in this number the so-called SS cavalry formations. The question of the security service of the Reichsführer SS (commonly known as the SD) is dealt with in the Judgment of the Tribunal in the case of the Gestapo and the SD.
The Tribunal declares criminal under the terms of the Charter a group consisting of those persons who were officially admitted to membership in the SS and listed in the previous paragraph, who became members of this organization or remained members of it, knowing that this organization is used to commit acts defined as criminal in accordance with with article 6 of the Charter, or those persons who were personally implicated as members of the organization in the commission of such crimes, excluding, however, those persons who were drafted into this organization by state bodies, and in such a way that they did not have the right to choose, as well as those who did not commit such crimes.
"Galicia", of course, did not stand out from the many national formations of the Waffen-SS. It was a fairly ordinary, although quite numerous division, and, like other divisions of the SS troops, certainly does not give anyone any reason to be proud.
Thanks for taking the time to share this additional information.
And it would be helpful if the site did a video on the 29th and 30th Waffen SS divisions
manned by Russian/Belorussian troops.
mald
Not quite true of 42000 called up by Germany on 27000 were selected as fit for service and only 13000 were enlisted not 33000. There is little concrete evidence to support atrocities committed by them other than some anti partisan activity in the Balkans. They were not returned to the USSR as the majority claimed Polish citizenship. Yes nothing to be proud of but no worse than Soviet military atrocities during the war and immediately acter
ROA, the Russian army recruited from pow camps by the Germans, was a lot bigger. It was commanded by Gen Vlasov.
Sir, thank you for posting this information. History in itself is neither good nor bad ..it just is..
Thanks for your reply.
Stephan I am still so pleased with all your work. I'm gutted at times how history repeats itself. Do not forget the past or we are destined to repeat it.
Thanks for watching!
Many thanks for giving this info .
I learned plenty from this history channel and other channels and I guess Canadians need to visit this history channel. I could never understand why most Africans support Russia and not Ukraine but I guess that they have seen this and the fact that many Nazi leaders who committed atrocities are national heroes in Ukraine is pretty disturbing.
I'd say that nost Africans don't know much or don't care deeply about what happened in ww2 in Europe but they simply see who is supported by colonial powers that oppressed them for centuries and they chose to support opposite side.
Самый известный русский поэт африканского происхождения))) Пушкин Александр Сергеевич
@@djape1977это не так, Россия много делает для Африки и учит очень много африканских студентов на протяжении многих десятилетий.
@@Банкивасограбят yeah, I know that, but that's still a tiny percentage of population
@@djape1977 35 000 в год. 350 000 за .10, лет. Это не мало. Мой город 80 000 чел. Или вы хотите чтобы все африканцы обучались в России?)))
I think You are handling this difficult topic very well. Your final remarks reminded me of a video recently uploaded by the 'Good Times Bad Times', a channel devoted to geopolitics and international relations. The creators of this channel are Polish but this particular video, entitled "Has Ukraine already won?" was mostly written by a Ukrainian author. It argues (among other things) that the current war really finalizes the creation of the Ukrainian nation by (again, among other things) creating national heroes that are for a change not highly problematic and divisive and are finally accepted by all Ukrainians.
Here is the video:
th-cam.com/video/JDf6Zf0JrPE/w-d-xo.html
BTW I would love to see you make a video specifically about Pavlo Shandruk, the commander of the UNA, because his biography was really interesting and paradoxical.
Interesting video you share here. I'll check it out. Thanks!
I agree. This war has united all Ukrainians under one flag forever. We feel more connected to each other than ever. In its pursuit to destroy the Ukrainian State and national identity, Russia has only strengthened Ukrainian nationality.
I believe its important to recognise your countries' history (good or bad) and not sweep it under the rug like Russia.
@@HistoryHustle I think it's a bit too early for videos that say that Ukraine has already won.....I mean the war is still not over
@nvzx "War heroes". Don't delude yourself, friend. Bandera isn't a "war hero", he was just cowardly piece of garbage which german masters used as nd throw away like it always innevitably happen with such pathethic traitors and collaborants.
Bandera - is literally the most opposite to any kind of "hero".
#Roger: did I say that? Future will tell.. Anything can happen now...
A question re the incident in the Canadian Parliament, please.
In an interview, a local historian explained that as soon as he heard the Speaker announce a Ukrainian Canadian who fought the Russians in WW2, he knew exactly what he was talking about.
My QUERY is, would not President Zalensky have also understood that, and even quicker? And did Zalensky join in the applause?
Thanks!
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Yes that is the most egregious think about this. He hasn't been asked about the incident even AFAIK
Why isn't this Nazi in jail?
So much quality information on this channel. Keep it up bro!
Thanks for watching.
My Canadian family suffered loss during both World wars.. Trudeau allowing praise in Parliment of a SS soldier is going too far even for him !
You don't quite understand the situation. Question: why are there so many of those same Nazis in Canada?
Answer: because Britain sent many Canadians to their deaths in the war against the Nazis. Because of this, there is a labor shortage in Canada. Therefore, Britain forced Canada to invite many Nazis so that there would be someone to work with.
This Gunko was offended by the Poles. He is originally from Poland. Then the USSR came. And the boy went to school for the first time. In 5th grade.
Then the Germans came. And the boy was sent to the punitive squads. And he fought with the Russians. But not on the battlefield; Ukrainian Nazis never fought with soldiers. He burned and slaughtered civilians, women and children, destroyed villages in Belarus and Slovakia, and created the Holocaust.
boo hoo your family fought for wokeism
Thanks for putting this history lesson together on video! My ancestors hail from eastern Germany and Poland so I find this all very interesting.
I'd love to hear/watch a history lesson by you of what the war was like on the eastern front during WW1, especially from the German perspective.
Dziękuję za ciekawy film 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching.
Great Great Information...History is a Fact that when studied and understood gives Truth ! Thankyou Sir for this Great and Important video ! I subscribed and turned on all Notifications !
Thanks James.
Your channel is absolutely underrated. 2RP's father - Roman Dmowski wrote such words about Ukraine as early as 1930: "
The ease with which the Viennese political spheres from the local narrow notion of Ruthenians (Ruthenen) jumped over to the broad notion of Ukrainians and turned the internal Austrian Ruthenian question into an international Ukrainian one was astonishing. It would be simply incomprehensible were it not for the profound change that took place today, at the end of the last century (XIX), in the situation of the Habsburg monarchy."
Feel free to share!
Dmowski ojcem drugiej Rzeczypospolitej? gdzie Ty znajdujesz takie wynalazki?
@@karollorak7490 nie chce mi się z tobą dyskutować.
Dmowski? That scum whose collaborated with Tsar and even been in Tsarist duma?
Wolalbys z Braunem zapewne 🤔
History of Ukrainian nationalism in the 1st half of the 20th century had been very obscured until Mr Teacher enlighten us all. Thanks.
I read a cold war era novel back in the early 80s (I forget the name) and it was about Ukrainian nationalists in exile at the time plotting the downfall of the then USSR leadership to enable an opportunity to gain independence. The plot as per the novel failed and at the time I was wondering what it was all about and now I have some idea.
Glad you find these topics interesting.
Nah man totally no Nazis in Ukraine right now, all russian Propaganda 😂😂
Ukrainian collaboration of WW2 has nothing to do with today. Most of the collaborators of back then are dead. Different times now. Don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
@@HistoryHustle Nazis exist in the Ukrainian reich, zelenskler is one, look at what he did at canada
Nazi's group's in Ukraine today: AZOV, AIDAR, C14, DOBROVOLSHESKI RUG, B LACK COMMITTEE
Very informative vid.Thnk-you. My dad knew a few ss members that worked in General Motors in Oshawa .Ont. Canada
Thanks for watching!
Нацисты сбежали в Канаду .
They shd be invited to the Canadian Parliament and be given a straight-arm salute by all Canadian politicians.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Great video, many thanks! I have just subscribed!
Welcome to the channel.
Walking on thin ice (from the Polish point of view) you managed to tell about these events in an interesting way. However, I must point out that the "Volhynian Massacre" was carried out by the so-called Banderites who sympathized with the UPA but they were not any organized units. That is why it is called a massacre because they were Ukrainian civilians, often neighbors of Poles whom they murdered with the help of not a firearm, but a manual "garden" weapon, an ax, a shovel hoe ... But today, from the Polish and Ukrainian point of view, we do not want to be reminded of it, in Poland everyone knows this part of our shared history, but it's a bad time to bring it back.
and again, thanks Stefan for your work
Thanks for sharing this Karol! Hope to cover more on the Volhynian Massacre later.
Does Poland recognise the massacres in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia as a genocide?
@@gumdeo Yes, since 2016 if I’m not mistaken
@Karol Lorak a zbrodni hitlerowskich dopuścili się naziści tak?
@@PabloPopova Zbrodni wojennych dopuścili się Niemcy i Ukraińcy. Róznica między Niemcami a Ukraińcami jest taka, że Niemcy robili to jako żołnierze a Ukraińcy w 90 % dokonywali mordów na Polakach jako cywile. Zarówno Niemcy jak i Ukraińcy mordowali Polaków na ziemi Polskiej. Ukraina bowiem do 1945 roku była Polską. Takich zbrodni jakich dopuścili się Ukraińcy nie było w dziejach ludzkości. Wymordowali 200 tysięcy Polaków, kobiet , dzieci I starców. Teraz przyjechało ich do Polski 5 milionów i mają lepszexwarunki do życia niż Polacy. Wszystko za darmo, dodatkowo 200 euro miesięcznie .
i really enjoy your willingness to address uncomfortable issue and you got me when you were willing to adress your own nation difficult issue without a blind eye both under occupation and far east gave me confidance in getting balance info on other topics thanks
Thanks for your reply.
18 million soviet citizens was killed. It's a shame that everyone considers this unimportant. Half of my family was killed, but did anyone apologize to me? Jews were given money and houses. And they made me feel guilty.
" It's a shame that everyone considers this unimportant. "
Where is THIS claim based on?
@@HistoryHustleBecause bloodthirsty America only cares about regime change and petrodollar. Fighting Russia to the last Ukranian
@@HistoryHustle Well, who in the West mentions this? Holocaust, sometimes of Poles, and rarely of OTHERS. The countries of Europe planned the complete kill all Russians, they destroyed the population of vast regions. But it is tssss.
And now the SS soldier is justified by the fact that he fought with the Russians. He burned them, what a hero. He didn’t fight the Red Army, only civilians. Only in Canada, for example, is Nazism the norm; I am sure that in a year they will apologize to him.
Now everything is the same, we all see that we are treated like animals. Russia constantly has to impose respect for Human Rights on Europe.
@@HistoryHustle See, you are contradicting yourself.
Bottom line is they attacked and slaughtered civilians
And that's not ok, indeed.
The poses that military personnel used to take photos mostly German personal ie 8:33 is amazing and it has to be a big story in itself !
Sharp observation. The photo was of the German siege of Lwow (Lviv) in 1939. But I used it because of the clear sky the quote would fit in.
as far as I am aware the nazis in ukraine, like everyere else , are minority. but they are very active and, because theyr activities suit the americans, they are widely supported. so you are correct - not everybody celebrate galician division anyversaries and etc. the common man just doesn't dare to oppose the nazis. you might know that, but in case you don't, will tell you few words about the past of galicia. once it was russian kingdom. in fact the only russian kingdom - the ruler there was king Danila( or Daniil) Galitsky. all russian rulers, apart from him had the title "tsar" or "imperor" later. and the sity of Lvov, renamed nowadays to Lviv, was named after the son of king Danila, whose name was Lev(lion). sadly - that once beautifull and strong( thanks to the kommunists) country is being destroyed now in the interests of the USA. forgot to say - interesting video. thank you for making effort to make it
Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
As I've said in a previous video, the politics of the area were more complex than most people realize. Between a rock and a hard place is a good analogy. Before passing judgement, I think people need to really think about what it was like to be caught in the area at the time, and between two bloody dictators. Who really did worse to you, Hitler or Stalin? I'll be blunt and say that I can't blame many people from the USSR for siding with the Germans, if for no other reason than they experienced Communism, and now thought that the Nazis could be the lesser of the evils. If the Nazis had been victorious, it probably would have been a different story. As The Who once sang, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Take care.
@nvzx It is not difficult to check the list of participants on the side of the Germans:Dirlewanger Brigade and
Kaminski Brigade (RONA), if they included part of ethnic Ukrainians, it is too loud called them"ukrainian ss division".
@sirdarklust: thanks for sharing your insights on this.
Don't ever compare Stalin to Hitler. None of them were actually worse than King Leopold whose name is hardly brought up by western imperialists. The worst crimes against mankind were perpetrated by the West. If you care to know, learn the atrocities of the West in Africa. The first German holocaust was visited upon the Herero people of Namibia. Stalin was no brutal than any Churchill whose atrocities against India is not a secret.
Weird, i live in a socialist country and it ain't that bad but you Americans (?) seem to really hate it. Damn, the U.S government is good with propaganda.
Rock and a hard place? This is an excuse cowards make.
Another interesting vid! Good job!
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Dzienkuje za wspanialom prace ,mam wielki szacunek za to co robisz !!!
Thanks for keeping it primarily objective. History, like life, is always in shades of gray. To speak of it as either black or white is oversimplifying it.
Thanks for your reply.
Why haven't I discovered this amazing channel before? You've covered topics even channels that go deep into minutiae don't go, like The Great War channel. Excellent content.
Btw, it would be really nice to see you talking about the taking of Monte Castello!
Thanks for your reply and welcome to the channel.
Canadian here and this video came up on my feed, some excellent work here, the situation in World War 2 in Eastern Europe was a huge mess of different warring sides and I am glad you gave a nuanced discussion of events. Not the simple ohh all Ukrainians who fought the Bolsheviks were heroes or the nonsensical all Ukrainians were Nazis we get currently from the Kremlin, keep up the great work.
Thanks for your reply.
Do you have any proof, links , reports or documents where Kremlin says that all Ukrainians are Nazis?
nice attempt to deny reality ...what is Putin who invited this 98yrs old Ukr SS Yaroslav Hunka 12:04
Not all ukrainians are nazis, just a big chunk of them.
Небольшая пометка от русской: ни разу не слышала от официального лица государства (да и от остальных людей из Кремля типа пресс-секретаря и прочих), что "все украинцы были нацистами". У нас громадное количество украинцев живет в стране, на всех наших памятниках, посвященных погибшим, есть фамилии абсолютно разных национальностей, в том числе и украинцев. И это прекрасно все знают. Потому что здесь живут их потомки. Но никто и не отрицает, что часть украинцев перешла на сторону немцев, в лице так называемых "бандеровцев" ( например, моя прапрабабушка была украинкой, пережила войну и до конца своей жизни говорила, что она "бандеровцев" ненавидит больше, чем немцев). Поэтому в России все прекрасно знают, насколько расколота была Украина еще давно. И что в ней были не только "бандеровцы", но и хорошие, смелые люди.
as a Ukrainian I will say a couple of comments. Firstly, thank you for trying to tell us about such a complex topic as Ukrainian nationalism of those times, although briefly. personally, I would start with the events of the First World War (about how the national movements of both Poland and Ukraine got the opportunity to find their own state after the collapse of the Russian empire), because the hostilities between Ukrainians and Poles began even before Hitler and the Nazis came to power in Germany. Here one could mention that when a war actually began between the nationalists, there were large forces and resources on the side of Poland, so the WUPR lost this war, and the Ukrainian nationalists went underground. the Entente countries supported the Poles (this is logical based on the resources of Poland), as they saw a threat in the USSR and did not want to weaken Poland with the support of the Ukrainians. the USSR and Germany of those times were rogue countries for Europe, therefore they quickly concluded a non-aggression pact (and divided Poland), and already in this connection the reason for Germany's support of Ukrainian nationalism in Poland becomes clear (in 1923 in Munich there were intelligence courses for Ukrainian nationalism and cooperation with time only grew, although the Ukrainian nationalists had splits, so when World War 2 began, it is worth dwelling on some moments of history separately). as for the OUN, it split into OUN (b), under the leadership of Stepan Bander, who believed that freedom and independence can only be obtained in battle, and neither the Poles nor Germany or the Entente countries need an independent Ukraine, and the OUN (m) under the leadership of Melnik, who preferred peaceful methods and I saw in the Germans those without whom it would not be possible to achieve independent Ukraine. oun (b) (in my opinion) initially dissuaded Ukrainians from joining the Roland and Nachtigal battalions, maybe in the SS Galicia (here I forgot a lot so I'm not sure) because Bandera saw in the Germans those who can cause serious damage to the USSR and then Germany itself would weaken and there would be a great chance of gaining independence, and then they still agitated to join and desert, so Bandera wanted to train in these military units those who, after deserting from the Wehrmacht troops, would become military of independent Ukraine. however, when the Bandera proclaimed the independence of Ukraine, their leadership was put in concentration camps and the rest were shot, and after Bandera was released, he could not take any important place among the nationalists because he spent almost the entire war in a concentration camp and the younger generation of nationalists had not so much other ideas of statehood had their own ambitions and did not consider those who did not fight as those who were worthy to lead them. the oun(m) also seemed to be trying to proclaim statehood, but they were also imprisoned, although they were soon released. it is very difficult to say something unambiguously about the attitude towards nationalism of those times, most Ukrainians have among their ancestors those who fought in the red army, in schools not much time is devoted to this topic, or it seems to me because I did not study history well. therefore, in society, many people know about nationalists what they told their parents or older generations in the USSR, and since nationalists were primarily interested in independence, the view for a long time was quite unambiguous due to the fact that the USSR saw the fighters for independence as enemies, on the other hand there are a relatively large number of those who were in those very nationalist organizations, therefore, although they considered joining the Ukrainian SSR to unite with the Ukrainians, they still considered occupation because of the dictatorship of Moscow. National themes, not to mention Nazism, are not that much of a concern, there are quite a lot of Jews in Ukraine, there are small peoples whose language and culture are protected according to the laws of interethnic conflicts were not observed, especially unlike the Russian Federation where there were 2 Chechen wars recently and national issues are more tense there, etc. so many Ukrainians are not that have radical views towards other peoples, rather it is respect for our ancestors who fought for a country where our language will not be banned, our culture, where famous athletes, artists, scientists will be recognized as Ukrainians, and despite the difficult and tragic moments in the common history with all our neighbors, prejudice is considered marginal (except for those neighbors who attacked us back in 2014 and believe that Ukrainians should either become Russian or be destroyed). I think there is a lot more to add here (for example, that in Europe after the First World War there was no talk of democracy: a civil war began in Spain, the Nazis came to power in Italy, the Nazis came to power in Germany, the fascist regime was in Austria since 1933, yes and in Poland they believed that the same Ukrainians should be turned into Poles, etc.), although I am not a historian, so if there are errors in my reasoning, please indicate, otherwise thanks again for touching on this topic.
Very timely to review this video again now. I’m recommending it to my friends.
Great, thanks!
The fact they were set scott free even guards at Sobibor which Alan Arkin starred in a film about.
Which film?
Escape from Sobibor is film 1987 or so Rutger Hauer plays a Russian pow.@@HistoryHustle
For many I guess it becomes a ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ kind of the. Will have to watch this again just to absorb it all
That's where it came down to. Thanks for watching.
Poland has the same difficult situation (trapp). The Nazis never managed to create any SS troops from Poles, in Poland, every country in Europe had such Nazi troops locally anyway
Part 4. The SS division "Galicia", formed by the Nazis from among the inhabitants of Western Ukraine, is again at the hearing - for several days the scandal around the participation of government officials in the official honoring of the "legionnaires" from the Ukrainian SS who died in the battle of Brody has not subsided. Kyiv has a new president, but the Nazi mainstream still prevails. July 27 marks the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Lviv from the Nazi invaders by the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front. In post-Maidan Ukraine, this is a "holiday that does not exist", and in calmer times it was celebrated mainly on the Left Bank. For political Ukrainians, this historical event is presented in a black light, since it is inextricably linked with the defeat of the "heroes of Ukraine" from the SS division "Galicia" in the battle of Brody.
On July 18, 1944, the troops of two Soviet tank armies under the command of Generals Rybalko and Lelyushenko broke through the German defenses to a depth of 80 km along a front width of 200 km and closed eight fascist divisions (65 thousand bayonets) in the cauldron near Brody, including Galicia.
Pilots of the 2nd Air Army helped the Soviet tankmen from the air to iron the encircled. The blow was so strong that at least 30 thousand enemy soldiers and officers died in the cauldron, and another 17 thousand were captured.
On this occasion, mourning events were held in Western Ukraine this year, and employees of the Ministry of Defense were involved in the celebrations, which caused bewilderment of the sensible public.
Western-based millionaire Yevgeny Chernyak from Zaporozhye, known for his Khortytsya vodka, expressed a characteristic reaction on his blog:
“The Armed Forces of Ukraine participated in the honors: the anthem sounded and flags fluttered in honor of the SS men, attention, members of the punitive battalions, which were particularly cruel. Are you there in general, or what, have you moved your brains ?! Give honors to fascists?!”
The businessman is also interested: “If the army does nothing without an order, is it possible to find out the name of the person who gave the order to commit this immoral act? Can you hear the reaction of embassies, ambassadors, human rights organizations?”
However, instead of ambassadors and human rights activists, a crowd of scandalized Bandera people ran into Chernyak’s feed with recommendations to “learn history”, “not to succumb to Soviet propaganda” and even “hire a consultant so that next time you don’t get into a puddle.”
The most savvy began to explain to Chernyak that:
1. The Nuremberg Tribunal did not recognize "Galicia" as a criminal organization.
2. "Legionnaires" of "Galicia" cannot be judged as Soviet citizens. "They are not traitors, they just made their choice."
3. "Read the materials of the Deschen Commission - they say everything:" Galicia "is not Nazis and not criminals."
It is interesting that even Chernyak, known for his tough temper, seems to have faltered before the onslaught of Bandera, promising to study the issue and, if necessary, take back his words.
We answer Bandera in order.
1. The inhuman regime of Nazi Germany was tried at the Nuremberg Tribunal for the war crimes and crimes against humanity it had committed. Hitler's closest associates, guilty of unleashing the war and organizing genocide, fell into the dock. It was not part of the function of the court to judge a small collaborationist fry. The punishment of Hitler's henchmen was within the jurisdiction of the authorities of those states whose citizens went over to the service of the Nazi occupiers.
The decision of the Nuremberg Tribunal does not give rise to discrepancies: the entire organization of the SS is recognized as criminal. From which it follows that the Ukrainian "legionnaires" from the Waffen SS division "Galicia", who swore allegiance directly to Hitler and obeyed the orders of the German command, are war criminals with all the ensuing consequences of this wording.
To sweeten the “Svidomo” pill a little, we inform you that all SS, both “general” and troops, including native formations, are considered war criminals: Belgian, French, Norwegian, Scandinavian, Croatian, Bosnian, Belarusian, Russian, Baltic, Albanian, and not just Ukrainian fasces in the service of the Third Reich.
In addition, it is documented that, after the defeat near Brody, the Nazis replenished "Galicia" from the reserve (over 60 thousand volunteers), who did not fall into the first set (14 thousand "legionnaires") and then used it to suppress the Slovak uprising and in punitive operations against the Yugoslav partisans. Simply because the combat value of the "Galicians" was near zero.
Not so long ago, another dirty detail became known. Documents were found showing that the Germans attracted separate units of the "Galicia" to protect the Dembica concentration camp in Poland, where the Slavs and Hungarians were kept. According to eyewitnesses, the "norm" of executions in this camp was 100-300 people a day. "Galicians" were directly involved in the killings and abuse of prisoners.
2. At the end of the war, in April 1945, when the collapse of Nazism was no doubt, part of the Galicia division mimics the Ukrainian National Army (UNA). This "change of shoes" allows Hitler's henchmen to get rid of the prefix "SS" and surrender to the Allied forces on acceptable terms.
From internment in the USSR, for which the participants of the "Galicia" were collaborators, the "legionnaires" were saved by repainting in the Poles. The Western allies, for reasons that they could be useful in the future struggle against the USSR, scum smeared with blood, considered that the “Galicians” were more likely citizens of Poland, and not of the Ukrainian SSR. The intercession of the Vatican also helped, since most of the "Galicians" of the division were Uniates or Catholics. It is strange that the “fighters for Ukraine” who surrendered did not want to call themselves immigrants from Ukraine.
However, what you can’t do to avoid a soapy rope ...
But in general, most of the surviving members of the division settled in the United States and Canada, where, for selfish reasons, an “alternative point of view” was adopted, which they are now trying to forcefully impose not only on Ukraine, but on the rest of the world - as if the “Galicians” hated the Germans, but so much they wanted an independent Ukraine, that they served the occupier.
From here the legs of nonsense grow, as if the "Galicians" are not related to the Waffen SS, but were "Sich Riflemen", who at one fine moment turned their weapons against the Germans. Cunning Plan, in general.
3. Commission of Jules Deschen. It was organized in 1985 by decree of Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney after numerous signals and even parliamentary inquiries that in the 40 post-war years Canada had become a haven for Nazi criminals.
The work of the commission took place under severe pressure from the Ukrainian and Baltic diasporas of Canada, which gave shelter to many fleeing SS "legionnaires". The Diasporans demanded that the members of the commission not accept documentary evidence from the USSR and its allies from the countries of Eastern Europe. Well, that is, from where the native SS most of all inherited blood.
In the process, the commission put forward so many requirements for the procedure for reviewing incoming materials that, in the end, it was forced to refuse to study evidence from the places where crimes were committed by Nazi collaborators.
The result of the work of the Deschen commission with a clear conscience can be called zilch. Of the 741 names of declared war criminals, the commission found visible corpus delicti in 20 suspects from the submitted list. By the end of 1986, the Commission had provided the Government of Canada with documents on 20 suspects with its own recommendations for the conduct of each case.
As far as is known, no one had been convicted of war crimes in Canada by 1998. Most of the defendants in the case died a natural death, two chose to leave the country, four more were acquitted for one reason or another.
The Deschen commission did not make any legal assessments regarding the Waffen SS division "Galicia" - this was not part of its authority. It is absurd to use the conclusions of the commission as evidence of the innocence of the "Galicians". With the same success, you can quote the instructions for the washing machine.
However, this generally refers to the evidence base attracted by political Ukrainians and other mankurts to whitewash Hitler's henchmen.
Thanks for taking the time to share this additional information.
So much words and so many lies
@@jameskastle599 the tryth hurts
Fascinating ! Thanks !
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My auntie who lived in Yorkshire England was married to a Ukrainian who was apparently a POW in a nearby camp. As a kid I used to ask him about the war and what he did in the fighting , but he never wanted to tell me anything and would get very angry with me if I kept on the subject. I'm 58years old and only found out years later that he served in the SS . You can imagine how that made me feel as I thought he was good man at the time, but how wrong I was. 🤬👎
Fighting for the SS doesnt make you bad unless its proven he commited war crimes. Even in the SS not even a fraction of them commited war crimes. Only select SS battalions were assigned to do such things
@@simpsbelongtothegulags3702bullshit, my friend 😂😂😂
@@Dr.Lem_Finance no
Even for the SS its not totally black Nd white
Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
I recommend watching the movie "Wołyń"
Good movie but irrelevant to this topic since it's about UPA.
Wasyl Weryha in the book “Dorohami druhoj switowoj wijny. Lehendy pro uwast Ukrainiment in the Warsaw Uprising 1944 ... ”(Toronto 1980) proves that the Ukrainian Waffen SS division Galizien (Hałyczyna) did not participate in the pacification of the Warsaw Uprising. However, it is a fact that the 150-person Ukrainian police company stationed at Aleja Szucha belonged to the SS Galizien, as A. Borkiewicz writes in his work "Powstanie Warszawskie" (Warsaw 1957), and even Kazimierz Podlaski (p. 97) considers it probable. ). Thus, the history of SS Galizien is also stained with the blood of the insurgents and the population of Warsaw. The crowning evidence that SS Galizien soldiers were in Warsaw during the Warsaw Uprising is, among others, the fact that these Ukrainian SS-men spoke Polish (Aleksander Kamiński "Zośka i Parasol", 3rd edition, Warsaw 1979). So they were Ukrainians from Galicia (where the volunteers for the SS Galizien came from), because the Ukrainians from Russian Ukraine did not speak Polish. Also the German historian Hans von Krannhals, author of the book "Der Warschauer Aufstand 1944 ..." (Frankfurt am Main 1962), proves that there was a company of the SS Galizien division in Warsaw.
Thanks for sharing this.
Canadian parliament is honoring a Waffen SS soldier today 23rd Sep 2023.
Source?
@@HistoryHustle It is in the news, and "waffen SS" is trending on twitter.. Zelensky, Trudeau and the soldier were all in the parliament.. It was standing ovation.
@@HistoryHustle A 98 Ukrainean war veteran named Yaroslav Hunka was invited to visit the house of commons by the head speaker, he was introduced as a hero of Ukraine and a freedom fighter and was given 2 standing ovations by the whole parliament, it was only after the event happened that his past in the Galician SS was revealed and it made everyone flip their lid.
"It's complicated ..." sometimes history is just not as straightforward as we would like and for the Ukraine, caught between a rock and a hard place says it all.
Indeed.
Which was the rock and a hard place? They were just fascist. Didn't a Ukrainian Khrushchev become leader of the USSR? Most of the Soviet industries were built in Ukraine, so what was their problem?
@@yawos9024 Khrushchev was ethnical Russian, he was born in Kursk region, Russian Empire. His wife was Ukrainian, that's why he was wearing Ukrainian traditional shirt. And he was one who resposible for Holodomor and other repressions in Ukraine
@@yawos9024 "They were just fascist." What makes you believe this narrative?
Just wonder, that's all.
@@eremstemero8823 You definitely do not understand 'fascism'.
Wow, great presentation. Very handy for latest controversies.
Thanks for your reply.
Zelensky and Ukrainane still celebrate these despicable men to this day
Only in smaller circles. And it does not justify Putin's war of aggression.
@@HistoryHustlesmaller circles???
😂😂😂😂
We all saw Bandera remembrance rallies on January 1st all over Ukraine
@@HistoryHustle lies
Ork 😂
@@djape1977 I'm so tired of asking this question, but: what does Bandera have to do with the SS Galicia?
Most of people cannot answer it
So who were the Ukrainians at Babi Yar?
You mean?
@@HistoryHustle you said the SS units weren’t created until after Stalingrad, who were the Ukrainians who quite proudly massacred all of the Jews at Babi Yar?
@@LKaramazovBandera's OUN, Shukevich etc
To this day Ukraine commemorates them every year
Ok.
Only 10 of approximately 100 ukrainian nationalist will commemorate them , most of ukrainian nationalists supports OUN-B and UPA , that fought both soviets and germans
@@solis9482 Although they wore German uniforms, they were also Ukrainian heroes. Germany lied to these Ukrainians because Bandera just declared Ukraine's independence. He was caught by the Gestapo. These Ukrainians who joined the German army had no idea. At least their motive for joining Germany was not to bully and slaughter Ukrainians. But for the freedom of Ukraine, they are for the freedom and democracy of Ukraine like the UPA
@@hanswong287 they were so stupid that they thought they would fight on a par with the Germans. Stupid Ukrainians from the western part of the country constantly forget that they are Slavs, with what eastern
Just a blunder? How many Ukrainians relocated to Canada at end of WWII? How were they vetted? Any descendants working in government?
The SS Galizien POWs were moved to Canada on the request of the Brits. Had they been moved to the USSR, they would have been killed. Those Ukrainians who were moved to Canada had not been citizens of the USRR before September 1, 1939.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Dude I love your accent ❤️ and I love your videos!!!
Great!
Great video! Thank you for precision and great detailed work :) :)
Thank you.
Russian propaganda in action.
Those people were fighting for the sovereignty of their motherland, occupied by Russians, Poles, Hungarians, etc. At the time, the enemy of Russia, fascist Germany, seemed to be an ally in a fight against communism.
PS Hungary at that time was full-blown fascist ally. Similarly, Romania and official Italy. So, don’t make a hustle out of the fact.
Have you actually SEEN the video?
Когда украинец Хрущев был во власти при СССР амнистировал и выпустил этих убийц,насильников и грабителей из лагерей.Они спокойно доживали свой век и в СССР.
I see. You got a source on that?
Actually the majority of "political prisoners" released by Hruschev were banderists captured during uprising 1945-1956.
One interesting aspect is that many Ukrainians died while opposing the atrocities committed by Ukrainian nationalists or SS members. There wasn't a strong support for the crimes committed against Jews and Poles, thus giving way to a stronger support for the Soviets.
Didn't know this actually!
Bullshit.
@@frenzalrhomb6919 There is an official talk between Poland and Ukraine regarding the WW2 atrocities on former Polish ground, for which you can easily find info on the Internet.
The topic is highly sensitive and complex and, while some Poles want to classify the massacres as genocide, there is the fact that Ukrainians also died at the hands of Ukrainian nationalists because they refused to take part in these or even collaborating with the Soviet partisans.
Hm. Very interesting.
@@georgecostan3248 100 - 150 ths People died in torture - there were 362 ways to kill a Pole, only because you were a Pole on your own land, they chased them even when they tried to escape, civilians were attacked from children to old people, the UPA had support in the locals Ukrainians, villages were mainly attacked, not the nobility, because it it was after the soviets deportations, yes, there were Ukrainians who helped, praise them! , but there was a margin, the property was plundered, the rest was burned; upa were written to germans to start a holocaust on the Poles because the Jews had already been killed, the Germans refused to agree, they were afraid of the Ukrainians, they were fired them from the service, the Poles who escaped until the end of their lives were hiding or were traumatized. The history is not simple, it was only Western Ukraine, the conditions were difficult, but it is really difficult to understand the scale of cruelty, so it was genocide. Ukrainians arent bad, but they should cut themselves off from these anti heroes, they have better ones to follow now. We need to live in truth. Only after that they can be free and develop.
Thank you for sharing this video. I have always had a hard time understanding the Ukrainians' involvement with the Nazis. While much still remains clear as mud, this was very helpful.
Thanks for watching.
another great vídeo.very Nice this vídeos about Formations.What about the Finish or the Bretons who serve with the german army or in the SS.
This vídeos contains lots of information about foreign volunters
in german army or in the SS.Not a usual topic.well done!!!
More on the Finnish in the future for sure.
Nice One of these days i Will sent to you some photos and contents about portuguese soldiers who fight in the Eastern front i know you only saw a broken link in the NET but here in Portugal we have more information.it is a non spoken subject here in Portugal.At most our historians talk about Mocidade Portuguesa,which was a youth movement during our ditactorship,mor or less like the HJ.
Like Spain we portuguese,also have a fascist goverment in the previus century,with the leader Antonio Oliveira Salazar.
Cuz there's a big difference
It is a big difference fighting on the Frontline against regular army or being involve in massacres of the civilians .the whole Ukrainian nationalist were involved in genocides.
@@ricardogaspar8545 Never heard of Portuguese volunteers before...quite interesting. The Spanish Blue Division we all know, but Portuguese , no.
there was a mutiny in France of Ukrainian ss who shoot their german officers and staff then deserted to the french resistance after the war they join the french legion fighting in Indochina
foreign legion a cesspit of criminals for years, think vetting now for it though is very strict
That was another unit. I point this out in the video.
@@shutup2751 entering the Legion with a criminal record can them forcing you to stay until no arrest warrant exists anymore.
@@HistoryHustle indeed some SS were admitted in the Legion, some of them joined a special unit within the legion created by the President De Gaulle(1965-1966). These were the only SS the Israeli Knesset asked for ending their contract estimating they had done their pitance(1973). This is also the only unit in the French army of which all members received the 'Legion d'Honneur' for their exploits in operations for the UN Security Council.
Great video Stefan!:) just one question not about just ukraine. The german anti-partisan operations: a lot massacres happened during these both east and west.
How could they handle this effectively ? What would be a good strategy? I think about a lot but it’s very difficult I think. Sorry my bad english:)
Hi Adem,
Thanks for watching. About your question. I think the best way was to befriend the locals. But due to the racial doctrines of the Nazis this was never an option to go full into. Mass violence was part of the Nazi ideology to maintain order. It backfired in most cases.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you for your answer :)
The UPA involved in genocide of hundreds of thousand Poles, Jews,Hungarian civilians is honored with monuments by present government and their allies closed eye on this subject.
Irrelevant reply since this video isnt about the UPA.
Sir, you are doing great job.
I'm big fan of your vlog.
You don't need to replay with your comment telling what is relevant or not.
The Movie wolyn cover that subject
It’s very interesting to watch I vid about the grandfather of some friend of mine and even ancestors of myself
Thanks for sharing this.
Great hustle, indeed. You've danced well among the multiple ambiguities of the Rock, Hard Place & aspirations of a tortured People. Of course, Comrade Stalin's earlier seizure of Ukrainian grain was in constant memory of everyone involved. Bravo analysis & commentary! 🎉🎉
Glad you liked it.
I remember seeing some videos how far right Ukrainians celebrated the 75th anniversary of the founding of this infamous division.
I've seen it.
and at the same time they are trying to prove to me that Russian are Nazis, they are not
Another excellent summary of a complex topic. We are following the present tragic war and hoping it ends soon with Ukraine keeping access to the sea but not hopeful as there are forces outside of the combat zone who want the war to continue.
Thank you for watching.
Война закончится когда Украина потеряет доступ к морю. Вы это имели ввиду?
Ну, я не это имел в виду, но это был бы один из способов положить конец. Я бы предпочел, чтобы Украина не имела выхода к морю. В таком же состоянии находятся и другие европейские страны, и из-за этого ЕС легко их принуждает. Жаль, что у Хунланда после Второй мировой войны не отобрали все побережье Балтики.@@ДенисС-п6щ
Who is here after Canada commemorated a nazzy
Many recently. Have you seen the video?
@@HistoryHustle yes I did. Outstanding work 👌
Your video aged like fine wine
Ok.
Thank you for your video. The world is quite inconveniently complicated.
It is. Thanks for watching.