If the Holodomor was genocide, how do you explain the fact that after Stalin learned about the mass death of people from starvation, he ordered to stop the seizures of grain and ordered, on the contrary, to transfer the grain from the reserve stocks to the Ukrainian SSR?
@@panzerkampf2939 Yay!! 🤗 South African also pro German... We can tell you all about the British. We don't like them neither! Just look up Operation Legacy and British concentration camps in South Africa. Their record is not as clean as everyone makes it out to be.
@@ВиталийКрайнов-х2ш Did you learn this in the Russian or old Soviet school system? Yeah, Stalin was a real great guy...such a humanitarian. Maybe he will get a posthumous Nobel Peace Prize.
@@albertmarnell9976 You can joke as much as you like, but this does not negate the fact that after people in the USSR (in Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Russia) began to die of hunger, the Soviet leadership, instead of continuing to take away bread, on the contrary, began to distribute it among ordinary people.
How much has changed? Let's see, no German troops overrunning the country (fair point, now it's the Russians). Now Polish civilians being killed. I'll be honest, I don't think it's a good idea to have this man as a national hero. That doesn't justify Russia's actions.
@@HistoryHustle Instead they have shoot-outs with the Polish soldiers helping them and force their minorities to fight some of their bloodiest battles against the Russians just to get rid of them. Ukraine is exactly the same as then. The situation resembles the one in WW2 when Poles were killing Germans in Danzig before their invasion by Germany and the SU, Ukraine was also provoking the Russians with the same thing through the Zelensky puppet-regime. Blackrock made its way to us and to Ukraine in the meantime coincidentally. Whether that morally justifies it or not. Wars are horrible, but like Tacitus said: 'A bad peace is even worse than war.'
@@HistoryHustle Wolynia massacrare in 1943 could offer an interesting insight. The tortures inflicted to civilian population are beyond horrific. Even the Nazists were horrified at the brutality of those massacres.
@@HistoryHustle ... hey, i appreciate your interest in the truth in history. Can you do video about what Scott Ritter (a former US intell officer, who told Americans the truth about WMDs in Iraq before Bush's invasion of the country and who has been recently been consulted by many people for what is currently going in Ukraine) has mentioned only in passing? He says US intell services - before the creation of the CIA in 1947 - supported Nazi collaborators in Western Ukraine as underground insurgency from 1945 to 1953. He mentioned that their activities may have been responsible for the Cold War itself
Growing up in a Ukrainian neighborhood in a major US City 10-15 years post war, my father once remarked that about half of the older men were war criminals. He moved there because of language/cultural familiarity as a teen immigrant himself but they sickened him and eventually got out of that cesspool as he got educated, leaned decent English, got a decent job and the means to leave the city. Later found out our CIA funneled money to some of their organizations and leaders in service of the cold war. This collaborating with the enemy of my enemy is always a gross and sickening affair, and at times even bites one in the ass as we have found in recent history.
@Русич Укроп --- MURDER WILL OUT, ALWAYS. | Correct, but, for most people in The West, the Ukrainian collaboration in realising mass-murders for the Nazis remains the great "Yes, but. . . ." concerning Ukrainian social commitment to "freedom" and "liberty", "equality" and playing well with non-white Others. In the 1970s, the "Ukrainian Village" community of Chicago featured many such anti-communist fellows, who, in exchange for a beer and a chaser, readily voiced their anti-Semitism to explain that Hitler was the lesser evil than . . . "The Jews" and Uncle Joe. Just the hatreds of George Wallace voiced with a Ukrainian accent.
@Русич Укроп --- THE WEST LOVE "GOOD NAZIS"! | Yes, but historical reality (atrocity photographs, survivor memoirs, graveyards, etc.) indicates that "Russian Nazism" is a comforting lie for suburban Western consumption (i.e. Murica and Britain), because the contemporary neo-Nazi Svoboda Party (the éminence grise of the Murican war in Ukraine) descended from the Ukrainian anti-communist Ukrainians who collaborated with the German Nazis; verifiable history known to most of the people of planet Earth, except in the U.S. and in Ucraina.
My great grandfather is from Wolyn. He and his brother where the only people to survive from his village as the ukrainiuns burned everyone in a barn. My greatgrandfather ended up in the polish peoples army.
This units along with other Ukrainian peasants did so bestial massacres on Polish citizens that its even hard to describe, even Germans were disgusted from methods that they used. Its really sad not many people know about it nowdays.
@@billd.iniowa2263 They cut arms and legs, heads with axes, slice bellies of pregnant women and take out children to impale them on the fences, throw small kids from mother's arms to the fire, burn people alive and many more bestial threatments.
Thats beacuse its a myth that had only been propagated in recent years. To be clear I’m not denying that anything happened. I condemn in the strongest possible terms all those who killed civilians. I’m commenting that the events have been exaggerated and twisted by Polish nationalists and pro kremlin forces. The number of victims have been greatly inflated (only 20,000 Polish names have been identified after extensive research, although this doesn’t mean that only 20,000 Pols were killed). The method of killing is also lies about, where a few extreme instances are made out to be the norm (not that killing civilians isn’t brutal by any means). The organization of the events as an intentional extermination (as opposed to tit for tat killing of civilians) is also without evidence. Finally why is it that the Ukrainian civilians (over 10,000 names identified) are not mentioned?. So the reason no one knows about this is because the way this movie and this persons comment paint it is a lie that is incredibly disrespectful to the actual victims of these events.
I am a Holocaust survivor and witness The nazis gave the orders but the Ukrainians did the killings including the killings of my mother father and little sister and all my extended family. I hid in the forest for 2 years like an animal from the Ukrainians. The soviets liberated me from hell. Pls History should not be distorted. War is devastating and my heart goes out to the real victims which are the innocent children.
@@HistoryHustle Dank je wel. Zo ver ik weet is het azov bataljon etc. opgenomen in het leger en hierdoor is hun invloed weg. Wat goed kan werken, kijk maar in Colombia met de FARC. Helaas zijn er mensen die de nieuwe realiteit niet op de voet volgen. Leuk om te zien dat je op deze oudere video nog commentaar geeft. Het ga je goed.
@@HistoryHustle They were responsible for the 2014 maidan coup. They have been in the goverment. They might have "retreated" into other positions where they are less visible, but the nazis are a very real thing. th-cam.com/video/KfaAyiP8Wuc/w-d-xo.html
My Jewish family was hacked to death with shovels in Kiev. Then they took over their apartment. My Mother shudders whenever she hears Ukrainian. Please make a video on Khmelnitzki who is still a national hero in Ukraine.
Sad to read. I can imagine such terrible acts leave a bad impression. Do notice most Ukrainians fought against the Nazis and didn't participate in sich killings.
@@HistoryHustle If so, why Bandera and Schouhevitch are their main heros right now? They could chose somebody else. In Poland Bandera is forbbiden as Hitler. Nonotherless polish people help them during this war. I really think that polish are very kind and naif people.
Itzhak Shamir told of the Ukrainians that they should get on their knees to ask Jews forgiveness. I haven't forgiven. This is why I am ambivalent about the actual Russian Ukrainian wars. I see the Ukrainians as bad victims, like the Dreyfusards looked at Dreyfus ( a very impleasant man) as a bad victim.
I don't belive it because here are nothing about the Holomodor. Stalin murders millions of the people in the Ukraine and only because of this they work together with Hitler. Nothing to say about the Holomodor could not bring good history working , because the Holomodor is the most importend for that was beeing in later times in the Ukraine.
The Ukrainians were treated better by the Nazis than Stalin and the Russians. Tell us how many Ukrainians were murdered by Stalin during the 1920's and 30'S
They, some Ukrainians, shocked even their German occupiers as to the brutality that they meted out to their Jewish brothers and sisters. This must not be forgotten. But it will be if not forgotten, be ignored.
I remember watching a documentary about ukrainian jews and one of the man said that many jews actually fled from Ukraine to Germany after WW2 was over. Back then I was completely shocked because I didn't know much about the history of Ukraine.
Czy popierasz to, co dzieje się na Ukrainie? gdyby nie karma, jak to nazywacie, to w Polsce nie byłoby więcej niż 2 miliony uchodźców. Ale głupi bóbr, który boi się Bandery, tego nie rozumie. I pomyśl o tym teraz, kurwa
the current Fuhrer of the 4th Reich (Russia) is acting similarly to the actions of Hitler in the 1930s-1940s. This is the genocide of the Ukrainian people, the annexation of Crimea, the total lies of Russian diplomats in the international arena, false TV channels controlled by the Kremlin junta, and, in the end, a direct full-scale invasion from 9 directions into the territory of Ukraine. You have to be a complete carrion, an inadequate person to support the actions of the Russian fascist government in these months and years
What karma? Germany lost eventually and we got repressed by USSR again, in 1947 Poland, Soviets and Czech Republic committed an operation called "Vysla", the goal was to deport all ethnic Ukrainians from their ethnic territories in order for Poland to claim them, Lemkivschina, Nadsyannya, Pidlyashya and Holmschina. We got tortured more than enough by every country around us so every Ukrainian felt that "karma" and that's why we fight for our independence today, russia will just continue to destroy us like it always did.
The Ukrainian SS formations were held in extremely low esteem by the main Waffen SS units. This all came to a boiling point in mid 44' when Hitler was told that there was a fully armed Ukrainian SS formation basically just lounging around behind the front doing nothing. He flew into a rage and ordered the HSSPF (HöhereSSu.Polizeiführer) Ukraine to be disarmed and pressed into service on the Vistula (Wişwa)front to dig anti-tank ditches. This of course caused a widespread mutiny and mass desertion event. Fun times in 1944... the Ukrainian auxiliaries from 1941 onward were accurately portrayed in "Schindlers List". They wore the repurposed/surplus Allgemeine SS black uniforms, with green wool collars and they were the "muscle" in the Concentration Camps and were particularly vicious.
@@HistoryHustle please, dont read this piece of shit. If you want, I can say something about division 14 SS Because Im found many information about this division
Can I ask your personal opinion. I am caught/stuck between the area when Ukraine northern half was /Russian/Ukranian and the south part was Tatar/steppes people (18th cent) and the year when Krushchev gave Ukraine (beginning of 1950's?) In Canada there are Ukrainian communities , so when do you think the birth of Ukraine happened?
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex the first Ukrainian state came to existence in 882 by the name of Kievan Rus’, but it was later destroyed in 1240 by the golden horde and gone for another 400 years until the Cossack state led by Bohdan Khmelnytsky emerged in 1649 from the lands of Rzeczpospolita (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth), which was later destroyed and annexed again, but now by the muscovites. After the dissolution of the russian empire and following the October revolution, another Ukrainian state emerged, now by the name of Ukrainian People’s Republic, which received full autonomy and following the Fourth Universal of the Ukrainian Central Council, it became fully independent and sovereign. By this time the bolsheviks have already bitten off a giant chunk of Ukrainian land, and with the little power the UPR had, they asked for help from the central powers, which led to Austro-Hungarian troops liberating all of Ukraine from the bolsheviks in exchange for food from Ukraine, but because of Ukraine failing to repay the debt and the civilians uprising against the Austro-Hungarians because of the high demands, the central powers had to remove the current democratic government and install a monarchist government led by a former russian imperial general and hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky (this is the time when UPR was renamed to the Ukrainian State). When the central powers collapsed after their defeat in WW1, Skoropadsky was left all by himself without any support, and the civilians protested against him because of his russophilic tendencies which led to him resigning and the former UPR government taking control of the country again. While the Ukrainian-Soviet war continued, the Western Ukrainian People’s Republic emerged from the eastern majority-Ukrainian lands of former Austro-Hungary, which was immediately attacked by Poland, but later united with the UPR. By this time the Poles have realized that there is a bigger threat to their nation known as the bolsheviks, and after uniting with the Ukrainians, they both reached Kyiv, but were forced to retreat because of the strong, but luckily failed, Warsaw offensive carried out by the bolsheviks. After all of this, the entirety of Ukraine was officially annexed by the red army and was forced to become a part of the USSR for another 70 years, until it collapsed and Ukraine has restored its independence and sovereignty. Now, Ukraine is still fighting for the right of its freedom, but the main difference is that it’s alliance is bigger and better than ever. In reality, Ukrainian history is indeed very rich and diverse, and requires a lot of time and dedication to learn it, hence why I could only fit like 3% of all of its history in this comment. If you’re interested, you should buy and read a huge book about it, it won’t disappoint for sure. Thanks for reading.
My family Doctor was Ukrainian and had a thick accent. He spoke German, Ukrainian, Russian. and English. He mentioned once that he came to the United States for the first time in his life in 1959. This Doctor had an 8 x 10 photograph of himself wearing a United States Army Captains uniform with Army medical corp insignias. One day I asked how could this be possible? He told me that in 1940 he became a medical doctor in the Ukraine. Most of his family including himself had sided with the Germans in WW2. When the war turned and the Russians came into the Ukraine the Russians executed any men remotely believed to be collaborating with the Nazis. The Doctor fled West to Germany until he found an advancing US Army unit to surrender to. The Doctor begged the Americans not to return him to the Ukraine and certain death by the Russians. After serveral exams to prove he was really a doctor and interrogations the Americans made him a deal. You join the US Army for 14 years and serve as a Doctor. Being a US Army Officer no Russians will touch you. Upon completion of your US Army 14 year service you will be sworn in as a US Citizen and can immigrate to the United States. Yes Ive heard this factual story before. Putin claims of Nazis in Ukraine is real.
@@HistoryHustle Thanks I did watch your video and I did not say MOST Ukrainians sided with the Germans, of this I have no knowlege. I wrote MOST of my Doctors Ukrainian family , including himself sided with the Germans. Reading skills cognitive issues?
@@jonathonbrooks651 i know he is. If he read my post, my Ukrainian born and raised Doctor admitted that he and his family member sided with the Nazis in WW2. The Doctor was only allowed to save himself because he was a Medical Doctor and the Anericans could use him The Doctor never said that he was a Ukrainian Nazi he just said he was on the German Nazis side in WW2 Putin is right there were and probably still are Ukrainian Nazis
@@HistoryHustle But thier government still praise pro nazi war criminals. You clearly know that. You stood next to Bandera statue in lviv. What horible people would build this man a statue? Ukrainian government is also horible
SS 14 elite division from Galicia was operating in Yugoslavia, killing civilians. Unfortunately we were thought that they were Germans . In communist Yugoslavia we blamed Germans and Scandinavian countries for Nazisam ,Scandinavians as passive collaborators,the first time I learned about this dark history of Ukrainians was here in Canada. We did learn about SS 14 division but they were portrayed as Germans, system made us believed that Ukraine was fighting Nazies. I am shocked actually that Slavs would do this to Slavs. We did have Ustase in Croatia but at least in Croatia there was resistance to Nazies among Croatians too.
Oh I know that, I did research, specially now , I know exactly where they are from. My prayers are with people of Ukraine affected with the same evil 🙏☦️
It would be fair to talk about Ukrainians in the Red Army, and reading the comments below makes me feel sad, because my great-grandfather Ukrainian died fighting against the Nazis, your video is enough classmates showed the situation in Ukraine in the 40s
my grandfather is a native of the East Ukrainian SSR, when the war began in 41, he was 18 years old, and he went to the front. I still can't imagine how an 18-year-old guy who didn't hold a gun in his hands could survive being an artillery and mortar scout. he did not take Berlin and returned home only in 1947, 6 years later. first, he expelled the European Nazis, and then fought in western Ukraine in Lviv and zacarpathia, chasing through the forests for what they later became known as бандеровцы. it is impossible to imagine more terrible bastards than the Ukrainian Nazis. they were not only cruel bloodsuckers, but also cowards who could "fight" only with the defenseless and innocent. they only cared about their own skin, drank like devils and mocked people. I advise you to ask about their methods of killing, believe me, Ganibal will not seem so cruel to you. one of the Ukrainian entertainments was the murder of children in the eyes of mothers or the rape of daughters and wives in the eyes of loved ones.
Your comment will most likely be deleted, because this information does not correspond to the modern narrative of helping the poor piggi of Ukraine, which was attacked by evil Russia bear for no reason (as Western propaganda tells it)
Your grandfather is an executioner and a bastard, he was an occupier in Western Ukraine. He came there as an occupant, just as now the Russians have come to Ukraine. Western Ukraine was not the USSR before the start of the war.
Спасибо за рассказ. Обо всем этом много художественных фильмов было снято на украинской киностудии имени Довженко и Киевской киностудией, мы на них выросли, а ветераны ВОВ нам еще больше ужасов рассказывали по самих фашистов. Мы по знаменательным военным датам приглашали еще тогда молодых или не очень пожилых на наших ветеранов на "Уроки мужества" (о Великой Отечественной Войне), которые мы сами-дети организовывали. Однажды кто-то из детей разболелся и задал свой глупый вопрос: " А может, было бы лучше, если бы вы фашистов не убили и они победили?" До сих пор помню лицо нашего гостя-ветерана, это была женщина... Она пришла счастливая, улыбалась, когда про страшные бои рассказывала, у неë голос дрожал. Но когда она к концу встречи услышала этот вопрос... Еë глаза передали то, что она видела. Улыбка сошла с еë лица. В неë как-будто выстрелили. Она с трудом из себя выдавила: "Ребята, если бы они победили, то не было бы ваших мам и пап, потому что фашисты убили бы их мам и пап, а вы бы никогда не родились. Некому было бы вас рожать. Фашисты убивали всех подряд.". Мы все просто онемели после еë объяснения. Меня прошибло (потрясло) так мощно, что я это еë объяснение применяю в жизни -- как методику победы. Особенно, теперь, когда нацисты нас, россиян, атакуют даже в соцсетях, я опираюсь на тот самый урок от нашего ветерана. Верю, мы завершим дело наших ветеранов.
Bandera was released from Zellenbau on 28 September 1944, and he was formally kept in Berlin under house arrest, but in reality he was free. On 23 February 1945 the Germans decided to establish the Ukrainian National Committee in Weimar, and officially recognized it on 12 March 1945. Bandera became one of its leaders.
Bandera being de facto free during the house arrest, is easy to understand. The touchy is, how free to work politically he was in the conc camp of Zellenbau? Ie, the atrocities in Volyn 1943, done by his supporters in his name, WERE they ordered by Bandera?? Had he any influence on them - encouraging OR trying to calm down the worst excesses??
@@barneydenstad2148 one thing is obvious if only Hitler would allow to establish puppet independent Ukraine under Bandera there were no any other tensions between him and Nazis. Just like they did in Croatia or Slovakia.
@@ruslankbr5243 True. But being non belligerent with Germany and accepting their umbrella, wasnt the same as actively supporting a nazi-policy... Finland, their military allies, definitely wasnt. Bulgaria, whom WAS their ally, did saved all its 50 thousand jews... They simply refused to submit their citizens of jewish ancestry, the bishops and the state. But Vichy-France, although NOT military ally, happily send arrested and send away their citizens of jewish ancestry.... Why, the antisemitic vichy laws were still ruling in the north african possesions, even after the americans occupied the north african parts of France...
@@barneydenstad2148 but ukranian nationalist always were both fascist and antisemitic and of course they killed polish people even civilians. I can give you opposite example of Croatian Ustashi they surpassed Germans in cruelty in many ways. And you don’t quite know about Finnish army behaviour in USSR, do you think Germans and their allies killed only Jews?
Ever since my freshman year as a history student in college, I've been mystified over the proclivity of certain Ukrainian groups to seek out to join those groups amenable to Nazi/neo-Nazi currents. I was horrified by the seeming complicity in the Babi Yar massacre, and centuries before in the Bohdan Kkmelnytski massacres of whole Jewish populations in Ukraine. This well researched, constructed, and presented video has helped to shed much needed light on those troubling questions. Thank you.
@@greghall9410 You are correct about that one particular detail. Remember, although a self-described student of history, Stalin was uber paranoid, a fact we need to factor in to your question; but your question is challenging and not easy. Thank you.
What a SUPERB introduction to this EXTREMELY complicated theatre of war on the Eastern Front..I applaud you for making this very complex step into this (still continuing) legacy of both the Second World War and in many ways..its continuation as we see it now in the 21st Century
I visited Lemberg in 2019. At a flea market I showed interest in some stuff a very old lady was selling. When communication proved difficult, a young man stepped in to translate. He spoke Ukrainian, Russian, English and my native German. When the old lady realized I was German, she became quite excited and took my hand and showered me with compliments and good wishes. Not knowing much about the troubled history of Ukraine then, it only later occurred to me that this person must have been a Nazi collaborator back in the days. All the more disturbing I find the current situation when German tanks roll once more against Russia. What a sick world!
We don't have to worry about Ukraine. They decided their own fate. I'm worried about Poland. Duda and Morawiecki are in some kind of bad ecstasy, like half of Poland. It seems to me, or are they going to fight with a nuclear power? I hope they just want to conduct a special operation in the west of Ukraine. Let them take these clinical idiots with them and suffer with them themselves)))
@@MaxRockatansky78 Seems like Polish leadership did not learn the history of Poland from the books of reality but from the same books they now teach Polish population. They still don't get why Poland was partitioned so many times. They don't understand WHY Volyn massacre has occurred, etc.
@@theodorekell It's quite the opposite Russia is mainly responsible for the partitions and weakening of the Commonwealth of both nations (apart from the aristocracy). It was Russia that maintained a dictatorship in Poland for 40 years after the Second World War, as in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. If Poland behaved now as it did before the Second World War, when the sanation, fooled by Piłsudski's henchmen after his death, was in charge, Ukraine would probably no longer exist, divided like Czechoslovakia due to old conflicts and spilled blood as then, instead Poland at least to some extent learned defeat in '39, and despite all the well-deserved resentment towards Ukraine, helps defeat the greatest threat to all European countries east of the Oder River.
Apart from the factor of Bandera and other garbage of his kind, the Volhynian massacre was also caused by the actions of Poland itself in the form of actual betrayal and sharing of Ukraine with the Russians in Riga, the settlement of Poles in Volhynia in order to polonize Ukrainian lands, the state discrimination of Ukrainians which grew with each terrorist attack they carried out and general policy towards the agricultural population. With all this in mind, the current actions of both the government and part of the Polish population itself is a departure from all the bad things that happened in the past
Thank you for this excellent "backgrounder to history" in Ukraine. Many people, just like I, have not know of is so important that the TRUTH of history does not get lost or factually "diluted".
Studing the past dont forget to look on here and now. History of colonized nation without their government and independence is complicated and as a rule all empires will use them as a resource. Ukrainians killed each other in FWW being divided by empires, SWW, same going on RIGHT NOW, because part of their country was occupied in 2014.
@@katrinfilipicheva7836 Part of "their country" is actually lands of Russia. For example, people who live in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkov, Kherson, Odessa regions and Crimea are russian-speakers and they wanted to be a part of Russia since 2014.
The Anglo-Saxon version of history seems to be true, but there is so much misrepresentation and adjustment of facts to suit your interests. If two neighbors quarreled and fought, then an Englishman came to them yesterday ....!
A small correction at 9:23 . The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) rarely fought the Home Army (AK), as there were few or no such units in the area. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army "fought" against Polish defenceless civilians, of whom it murdered around 100,000, from infants to the elderly, killing in an extremely barbaric manner
Thanking a russian fascist propagandist makes you a traitor to Poland. Wait and thank russians when they again try to invade Poland. Have you ever heard of Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Moscow collaborating with Berlin in the first two years of the WWII. 2 million Russian nationalists and armenian legions fighting on the nazis side. Why did the Russian, armenians and Persians collaborate with nazi Germany? If a little amount of Ukrainians make Ukraine look bad, what did that make millions of russian, armenians and persians? Think about it!
As a person who lived in Kyiv a year as a British English language consultant. I was appalled to read historical inaccuracies that were evident on display in Kreschatik. However you've put everything right here. Thx.
Unbelievable!!!! Finally you try to explain to many people what real story !!! Thank you. This need to be show to everyone who is screaming on Russians! Thank you. Spasibo
@@HistoryHustle I am From Russia Moscow. My grandfather was killed in ww2. And I know very well what Ukrainian Nazi did within ww2 !! Thank you for this video
Another brilliant material. Thank you, our Dutch history teacher. Sending lots of respect from Scotland Me, and my friends loves watching you. All the best !!
Viva Scotland from Australia!!! As far as I'm concerned the Scottish wear the crown of England metaphorically & in reality. The Scottish throne was stolen by the English!
I’m amazed by all the factions that existed in Europe due to cultural and nationalistic differences. And the disastrous results of when “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. I know this is very over simplified, but as long as a groups of people’s grow suspicious snd not trusting of each other (as history seems to prove over and over) this inhumanity will continue either on a local scale or even as we learn from our history teachers on a global scale like that of world war 2. Thank you again on the history stories. May we all learn from it.
Fabricated "exceptionalism", be it colour of skin, the nation you are born in, the faith you follow or the sexe one is attracted to is abused to normalize violence even today.
@@HistoryHustle If the Holodomor was genocide, how do you explain the fact that after Stalin learned about the mass death of people from starvation, he ordered to stop the seizures of grain and ordered, on the contrary, to transfer the grain from the reserve to the Ukrainian SSR?
Interesting. It would be interesting to see more information on the Ukrainian massacre of 100,000 Poles in 1943. Details of this are often ‘hidden’ in ‘the West’.
They massacred each other vice versa...none of them is better than the other ... to see these two collaborating right now is nothing but a charade .. give the Poles a chance and they swallow as much of Ukraine as they can ...not realizing that this will cause vomiting 🤮 and constipation afterwards . Some do not learn from history at all . Poles and what ever you might call Ukrainians are a prime example for this fact . Pretty sad story ,but 'stupidity does not protect from punishment ' . The punishment is on it's way: for both of them .
It is a pity that there are no more Poles in western Ukraine. It would simply be beneficial for Russia to divide Ukraine with Poland and Hungary. And so, these are just former Polish territories without Poles. Although, the Hungarians are still alive, but Zelensky is going to fix it.
Thank you for this history lesson. It helps me to understand why Putin wants to ‘denazify’ Ukraine, or actually, why he wants to use nazis as his excuse. Very interesting lesson.👍🏼
Actually Putin is way decent about rooting out the ugly satanic Nazi new world order elite crap. The world does not need evil Nazi satanists controlling every nation. Kick them the hell on out no matter what it takes. Their only joy is your misery and death. If they cant use you or make money from you, they want you gone!
NO excuse Nazis in Ukraine, truth, not propaganda. Good detailed information about Zelensky, too. th-cam.com/video/KfaAyiP8Wuc/w-d-xo.html and from BBC longer ago, this was known: th-cam.com/video/5SBo0akeDMY/w-d-xo.html Max Blumenthal Grayzone th-cam.com/video/x5Uf7aooxvE/w-d-xo.html Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia - BBC Newsnight th-cam.com/video/hE6b4ao8gAQ/w-d-xo.html
It’s interesting that people who were recently (and probably still are) Holocaust deniers are now so concerned about Ukrainian involvement in the Holocaust.
Hello history hustle. I have a request for you. Could you do a video on Volhynia and Eastern Galicia massacres. Most people have never heard of them. Considering them to be the most barbaric and sadistic acts that took place during WWII they should be told. I'm not discounting the holocaust or the crimes committed by the Japanese army. BTW, thank you for your dedication to teaching history honestly and genuinely. I christen you a "hero of history."
@@convidium Do you like writing fairy tales? This is the field for you! These are Bandera lies to justify genocide! Falsifying history is your specialty. Why do you forbid finding and burying the murdered? Shame on Ukraine!
@@Imadelko58 You're pole, right? Do you remember when this idiots in the end of WW2 said that Galicia is Poland, but not Ukraine? Ukrainians back then we're furious. Nonetheless they hoped that maybe they will live in peace. But you - poles didn't think so. You started to destroy Ukrainian nation, calling it "pacification". Tons of repressions, tons of deaths of innocent Ukrainians. I'm not saying that poles are bad people, I understand why you did this. This was basically the same thing Ukrainians did. I grew up in former "Polish"/"Jewish" city of Ternopil. Many of my relatives were killed both by nazis and poles. Here, we still have museums of polish jails where poles were torturing ukrainians for the same reason russians do now. And yet, I don't hate poles. You should do the same and respect national heroes of another country. OUN and Bandera did some horrible things. We have to remember that, and not idolise them. Though we can't say theese were the bad people, the just choosed bad tactics. Just imagine you're between anvil and a hammer. Soviets basically killing tens of millions of people and Nazis who do the same. And you're also in a war with poles. What would you do? Who you'd collaborate with? Fucking Nazis used us and promised Ukraine independence and protection if they help them. So now, do understand this actions from Ukrainian perspective? I'm not protecting anyone, it's everyone's fault. Fuck the soviets, fuck the Nazis, fuck OUN and fuck the poles too. We're all bunch of idiots who did a lot of shit. But I really hope that finally, poles and ukrainians have become friends. Maybe you are right and we should not admire OUN, thought we didn't, before russia started forcing this claim.
Thanks for sharing this because I moved to Lviv this year and I find the history pretty confusing. People here just say, "Our history is complicated", and leave it at that rather than saying that it was a shame that XYZ happened, and it shouldn`t have happened. I was told by friends in Kyiv to expect pushback if I spoke Russian here, so I should always start conversations in English, all good advice, though only a few instances have happened where anyone showed resistance to Russian. But things are even more sensitive due to the ongoing Russian-supported occupation of the Donbass region and the Crimean Peninsula. All around me are memorials to Bandera, streets and squares and such named after him, so history is alive in Lemberg/Lvov/Lviv.
@slocad11: today Lviv is a lovely city. Great memories from my visit last times. Glad you watched the episode, thanks for your reply. I always believed speaking Russian in Kyiv is fine, but not of Lviv. I don't speak Russian, so English it is for me :)
I was sent here by someone who told me I should know more about Ukraine collaboration with Nazis. I had no idea thanks for shining a light on a dark part of history.
We most certainly should know more about Ukrainian collaboration with Nazis. Interestingly the most eager accusations come from Russia as if there was no Russian/Soviet collaboration with Nazis. There was an Ukrainian SS Division, alright. There were three Russian SS-Divisions as well. But contemporary Russians comfortably ignore this fact.
Brilliant. Best yet. Very few historians have really ventured much into the centuries-deep causes of the complete obliteration of both the ancient Pale of Settlement Shtetl culture (from the Baltics to the Balkans and from the Rhine to the Volga) and also the ever-shifting balance of power & national boundaries, going back...to the earliest sources we have. I realize that this would be a departure, Stefan, but a short series on the deeper history of the areas you cover with your primarily 20th century lens would just add so much. And the very same crowd that likes what you do would thank you for it.
Believe it was Churchill who had this idea, Operation Unthinkable. Luckily that didn't take place. Patton claimed they fought the wrong enemy which neo Nazis today use for their own means.
He wanted to move the Red Army as far east as possible pretty much out of Central Europe. There's a good movie named Silence Patton which describes his brilliant geopolitical mind.
After all he was a war general in military paradise(germany) and was positioned in bavaria which are very hygenic, orderly and very friendly people. The constructions the germans did for an American, are very familiar. The red army consisted of simple people and farmers from all walks of live and didnt have a military education. This must have appeared chaotic and frightening to this generals ocd. So you should not overrate this statement.
Спасибо большое за видео! Это большой труд. Я не знаю английский, но есть много отзывов и субтитры, которые можно перевести. В наших странах некотрые люди забыли историю! Украина-Израиль💥
"Thanks a lot for the video! This is a lot of work. I don't know English, but there are many reviews and subtitles that can be translated. In our countries, some people have forgotten history! Ukraine-Israel"
Тамара здравствуйте если вы не смотрели фильм "алекс лютый", то посмотрите. История одного полицая во время 2-ой Мировой Войны, который уничтожил тысячи своих соотечественников на Украине...
@@Люся-ъ2ь Спасибо, что ответили. Не могу понять сегодняшний Мир.Что люди забыли ту ужасную Войну, зверства Фашистов❓‼️ Европа может этого не знает, но они скоро поймут, потому что эти нацики здесь громят русские магазины, школы, раскрашивают нацисткую Свастику. Весь Интернет уже кричит от их Хамства. Но справедливость Должна Восторжествовать. Русские сотрут Нацизм с Лица Земли‼️ А Вам Здоровья и Мира🙏❤
In today's Ukraine, the collaborators of the SS division "Galicia" are declared national heroes. The sleeve chevron of the SS division became the sleeve chevron of the Army of Ukraine. Also, the Wehrmacht insignia was used in the modern army of Ukraine. On Western armored vehicles that arrive in Ukraine, soldiers apply Baltic crosses of the Wehrmacht. And even a swastika... The West has been pretending for 8 years that he is blind and knows nothing. Of the 3,500 soldiers of the Azov brigade captured in Mariupol, every second had tattoos in the form of symbols of Nazi Germany... Even portraits of Hitler on the back and chest.... All this was visible when the Russians forced the military to undress to the waist. Everything was filmed on video... Everything is freely available... But not a single frame of these videos was shown in any country in Europe.
If you mean the Tryzub, it has been a symbol of Ukraine for thousands of years. For example, the Ukrainian National Republic (also known as the Ukrainian People's Republic) used it, roughly 10 years before Nazism had a name. The symbol itself was used on the flag of the Kievan Rus'. It's generally just a symbol of Ukraine, not specifically Ukrainian SS. Azov is no longer a battalion, as it was effectively wiped out in Mariupol. It also made up a tiny portion of Ukraine's forces, let alone population, and not all of them were even Nazis. Nazi tattoos were frighteningly common in Azov, yes, but not as common as you say. As for your claim that these videos are "not shown in any country in Europe" that is blatantly false. These videos are fairly well known and easy to find, as _you_ even state. You are thinking of the Balkan cross, which is a symbol of the Bundeswehr. The Iron Cross was what you would find in WW2. The crosses seen in videos such as this do resemble the one used in Germany in WW2 (as well as WW1 and prior, mind you) however there is a chance they are meant to be the "Steel cross", an award given to Ukrainians in an independence campaign in 1919.
@@commandercorl1544 The concept of Ukrainians appeared at the end of the 19th century, if anything. And the trident could not be a symbol of Ukrainians for thousands of years. This is not a trident at all, but an attacking inverted falcon, the generic symbol of the obodrite princes. Who lived in the north of this Germany. The inhabitants themselves called themselves Little Russians or Russians. Even in the petition to Tsar Alexei, Ukrainian colonels call themselves Russian people. For understanding - Ukrainians in modern times and Russians now are like Bavarians and Pomeranians in modern Germany. Well, as for the rest, I listened to a whole lecture that there is no Nazism, that the Balkan cross, well, this is generally wonderful. But why do the Ukrainian military draw swastikas on tanks? And the network is full of photos and videos. Under these Balkan crosses, German troops killed the grandparents of modern citizens of Ukraine. And then they drove the bearers of this cross to Berlin .... And now their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are again using the symbols of the Wehrmacht. In general, we in Russia have long been indifferent to what you think to yourself in the West. Watching the circus in the European Union is just tired. Nobody's opinion will be taken into account. And never again will Russia live in harmony with Western Europe. Three times!!!! Russia was deceived.... The first time they said they would not expand NATO. The second time was the Minsk agreements, when Hollande and Merkel said that the agreements were a hoax. Gaining time to arm Ukraine for war with Russia. These are not my words. Third time in Istanbul when the agreement was made. Russia withdrew troops from the north of Ukraine, took them away from the outskirts of Kyiv. After that, Ukraine defiantly stated that it would not fulfill its part of the agreement. And adopted the Law on the prohibition of negotiations with Russia. Everything, there is no faith in the West. And there will be no more. Nobody wants to step on a rake again.
@@VPoster58Galicians, now a Ukrainian minority, first existed as a wholly independent nation in 1253. An actual Ukrainian rebellion happened in 1490, with Ukrainians Fighting against the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. A Cossack uprising began in 1648, lead by Khelminytsky, saw a Ukrainian state established. He did, however, do horrible things to Polish-Lithuanian civilians and soldiers. Later, the Kolivshchina revolt of 1768 saw a Ukrainian loss, however it is an important footnote in Ukrainian history. Ukraine has existed as a nation for a very long time. Wasn't the Galician SS's coat of arms that of a lion? I do not believe Swastikas are drawn frequently on Ukrainian tanks, although I don't doubt they have been drawn. The "agreement" for NATO not to "expand" was never official, never signed into paper, and never discussed beyond a single verbal agreement, had between the United States president and the president of the Soviet Union. This "expansion" is also absurd, as NATO nations vote to join the alliance themselves, and Poland _blackmailed_ the United States into letting them join. The Baltics were equally as eager to join the alliance. Why would a nation so ruthlessly invaded, decide to negotiate or give up to it's long-time enemy? Why would they simply lay down arms, when their people have been slaughtered and assaulted?
@@commandercorl1544 It’s even difficult for me to answer you .... The lion is a symbol of the Russian prince Daniil Romanovich, who founded the city of Lvov in 1256. Prince Daniel belonged to the Rurik dynasty, the great Russian dynasty. You have strange information about the Khmelnitsky uprising. Even Wikipedia says it's more interesting... The atrocities were directed against the population of Poland. Documented. BUT they belong to a later period, when the Ukrainian Cossacks, together with the Turkish army, invaded Poland. After Doroshenko, the new hetman betrayed the Russians and went over to the side of the Turks. Doroshenko is now a national hero of Ukraine. But his whole life is the life of a traitor. HE betrayed the Russians, then the Poles, then the Russians again, then the Poles again, then he betrayed the Turks. It ended with the fact that after the raids of Doroshenko's troops on the Russian cities, Prince Romodanovsky took the city of Chigirin in a response campaign. Doroshenko surrendered, was taken to Moscow, served the tsar there. He died already under Peter the Great, was buried in the village, presented to him by Tsarina Sophia. Violent attack? And the fact that Ukrainian artillery killed almost 15,000 civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk in 8 years doesn't count? And what about the shelling of Russian territory in late January - early February? And what about the attack on the border post on February 17, when the whole world was shown the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers and burning Ukrainian armored vehicles? Did not see? So, on February 19, they also tried to attack the border guards in the Voronezh region. Again corpses, but one fighter from the 25th brigade was captured... Ukraine refused to admit it, called it a provocation.... The terrible shelling of Donetsk on February 20 from 152-mm guns, the OSCE commission counted 1367 explosions, there were more in total. Local media reported more than 1,600 arrivals. During the night and morning almost 900 people died, women, children... How long did you have to wait? Putin personally called both Berlin and Paris. But they shrugged their shoulders and said that they were powerless to influence the authorities in Kyiv. On February 21, the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Lugansk, unexpectedly crossed the river and took the village of Nikolaevka almost on the outskirts of the city. The Russian army has already repulsed the attack ... Now tell me about the atrocities.... Speaking of Bucha... The Russian army leaves Bucha on March 31 at 12 o'clock in the afternoon... At 15 o'clock the mayor announces that the city is free. On April 1, units of the Ukrainian police enter the city. They walk the streets and shoot videos, there are no corpses .... They pass on April 1, 2, and on April 3 corpses appear on the streets ... Fresh ... Excellent .. According to the Syrian scenario, journalists appear. Not even embarrassed by the fact that the London coroner finds arrow-shaped fragments of D-30 howitzer artillery shells in the bodies of corpses. And this howitzer is in service only with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fact is that after the occupation of the city by the Russian army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine subjected the city to daily massive artillery fire. In Russia, this howitzer was removed from service in 2008, and the guns were sent to storage. Videos of smoking and rising corpses will not be mentioned. And also a video where these corpses are put out on the street, dragged along the ground, tied to their feet with ropes. And on the video filmed by the residents of the city, you can see exactly how the Ukrainian army robs abandoned apartments in high-rise buildings. You didn't see them anyway... TH-cam quickly deleted them. You can continue to believe in what they wrote to me. We have different sources of information. And by the way, Russia no longer cares what the West thinks and believes.
I had a friend, now dead, who was born in what was then Poland but is now Lithuania. He was serving in the Polish army in 1939 and was taken prisoner by the Russians and sent to an internment camp in Eastern Ukraine. He told me that when it came over the camp tannoy in 1941 that the Germans had invaded the whole camp cheered including the Ukrainian camp guards.
@@alexbowman7582 "those massacres were on the Polish officers mostly" No, it wasn't. Ukrainians killed children and women with knives thousands. What officers are you talking about?
Many Ukrainian people had relatives who fought and died in this War. Something that seems to get forgotten by those who are keen to label them something else. Its an insult.
А поэтому нужно сказать правду, почему люди шли в дивизию "Галичина", почему испанцы воевали против большевиков, которые за короткое время залили кровью эти земли....они шли служить в армию добровольно, чтобы отомстить за гибель своих родственников ...
I must admit I didn't know about this historical background and I think that it's a very confusing one. But it's important knowledge. Keep on educating, thanks for this video.
I think Ukrainian books remember times of soviets, they need to update some stuff also i can' t imagine country joining to EU with stuff like glorify of UPA or Bandera etc. in our times. That's anti-Polish and anti-European. Ukrainian writting "Bandera didn't have anything to do with genocide cuz he was in ghetto(actually in Berlin prison he was collaboration with the Germans because the Germans saw in him a benefit in the fight against the Soviets, and that is why he was later killed by the Soviets when he began to cooperate with the Americans.)", well but his army were shouting his name while doing genocide, someone pushed them into action the fact that he was not there does not mean that he is innocent, let me tell you more, Hitler and Stalin did not commit most of the crimes with their own hands either but that doesn't mean they aren't war criminals because they are.
Great video. Hopefully it can give westerners greater perspective on what's going on today. My grandfather was from Kuypansk outside of Kharkov, which switched hands a couple times during the war. They were Russian people. Slav brothers to Ukrainians, that's why current conflict is a mess but not much different than others. My grandfather was a little too young to fight but the Nazis made him and his family forced laborers & they were deported inside Germany after the tide had turned. Some gladly helped nazis to serve their nationalist ideals, others were forced. I recently learned from Scott Ritter, & it's truly a shame that the US was involved with these Ukrainian groups after the war and its really disgusting violence continued in this area.
Этот историк вводит в заблуждение западную аудиторию. Голод на Украине 30-х годов нельзя называть геноцидом, потому что он охватил и многие другие регионы СССР из-за засухи и коллективизации крестьянства. Политическое руководство СССР не ставило задачи уморить голодом тот или иной народ. Настоящему историку следовало бы это знать.
@@ЗривКорень-м5к еще как ставило. Украина, Поволжье и Казахстан. Если русские и казахи хотят дальше делать из комуняк белых и пушистых - их проблема. Если этого не было - пусть Москва откроет архивы и ученые историки смогут добиться правды. Но нет архивы закрыты. Открытые архивы в Украине четко указываю на преступления коммунистов. Голодомор одно из них.
@@alexivlyev9876 ну укажите мне украинские архивы, где чётко показано, что большевики ставят своей целью истребить украинский народ. Я буду очень признателен, но Вы их мне не предоставите, потому, что их не существует. Был ли голод начала 30-х преступлением? Я думаю нет. Это была трагическая ошибка, вызванная вынужденными действиями направленными на ускоренную индустриализацию и наложенная на засуху. Повторяю, умирали не только украинцы, но и русские, и жители других национальностей. Вы о голоде в поволжье и Казахстане что нибудь знаете? Поинтересуйтесь и поймёте, что геноцид украинского народа это ложь, направленная на разжигание ненависти к русским.
I love how everyone around Ukraine is to blame except Ukrainians themselves. Brutal and evil? Yea that's Russia's/Poland's fault. I live in Israel and stories about Ukrainian brutality during the Holocaust are not forgotten. Until this day not even one apology...
Я искренне сочувствую и ужасаюсь трагедии еврейского народа. Мне очень больно и печально, что среди тех, кто участвовал в преступлении Холокоста, были этнические украинцы. Но я никогда не слышала, чтобы в каком-либо государстве выясняли этнический состав преступников-колаборантов. Вы прекрасно знаете, что в то время не существовало независимого государства Украина, и люди, о которых этот рассказ, были гражданами СССР, или недавно сменили польский паспорт на советский. Поэтому я не понимаю, от кого именно Вы ждете извинений?
The most terrible thing in this situation is that the people of the Vanatics of Hitler's cause, stained with blood, are called heroes, and the monuments of those who gave their lives for the sake of defeating this evil are being demolished, demolished in the countries of the European Union Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, Estonia. If the USSR had lost to a warrior, these peoples could have had a history and a future. and now the descendants of the concentration camp guards are being sent money and weapons, while completely turning a blind eye to ethnic cleansing, the prohibition of all opposition in Ukraine. I lived all my life in Kyiv and my country was again swept by the Brown Plague.
AWESOME PRESENTATION!!' And feeds my love of history. Don’t people get it?! History is not a fragmented thing, it’s all ONE interconnected Human Story unfolding as we go. Thanks Mate.
Let’s not forget that the Germans benefitted by supporting ‘exploited’ minority groups in neighbouring countries. The Slovaks in Czechoslovakia to breakup the country and gain an ally state. The Croats in Yugoslavia to who encouraged them to push for more autonomy (or outright independence). The Baltic states who were just recently occupied by the Soviets (the Latvian legion which many still commentate as for fighting against Soviet aggression, rather than for Nazi ideals). The Ukrainians as you mentioned, and other ethnic minorities in the Soviet Union (such as the Crimean Tatars) during their advance.
Yeah that's not true,Slovaks were left as a side product after Czechs were anexxed,the alternative was to get sucked into Hungary which partially happened to the southern provinces where significant part of population was Hungarian. Of course Germans would make sure any new government or country is existing on their terms. Same thing for Croatia,Hitler acknowledged Croatia only when it was clear that he won't get the whole Yugoslavia under his umbrella. No encouragment was needed in any case since both Slovaks and Croats sought for a way to brake free from the political entities they found themselves in,Croats especially. Yugoslavia was bound to collapse anyways,it was barely even functioning since it's establishment in 1918 as a Kingdom of SCS for Serbs wanted and pushed for a unitary state with them as overlords,no one wanted to defend such a Yugoslavia when it ment defending Serbian hegemony. For the Baltic nations and Ukrainians the same,they saw hope for escape from the Soviet grip in Germans and I don't blame them one bit after what communists have done to them all.
Very informative. Thanks man. If you don't mind, one small, but important correction: Stalin didn't inflict "golodomor" purposely, to kill people. The same situation was in some parts of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan was in worst shape. All information is available in declassified documents.
@@HistoryHustle After a bit of digging into archives, one can confirm the dirty truth, that "extra measures" were taken by local Ukrainian authorities causing suffering of mostly Russian ethnic population in Soviet Ukraine. Majority of the population on that territory always was and still is Russian speaking.
You seem to forget that Ukrainians who cooperated with Germans CAME MAINLY FROM WESTERN PART OF UKRAINE WHICH UNTIL 1939 WAS PART OF POLAND SO THEY WERE NOT AFFECTED BY "HOLODOMOR". SO CITING "HOLODOMOR" AS THE REASON FOR COOPERATION WITH GERMANY DURING WW2 IS NOT RIGHT.
I used caps only to stress that part of what I wrote so please don't feel offended. You should ask yourself why Ukrainian nazi collaborators came mostly from the region of Galizia ( that's why "Galizien although that was not their official name) which before WW2 was part of Poland and they were not affected by "holodomor". On the other hand those who lived in Soviet Ukraine and were affected by famine did not cooperate with Germans. This is for historical reasons. Galizia was the only part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth inhabited by Ruthenians ( at that time word Ukraine was being used only in geographical sense) which after partition of that country in XVIII century did not become part of Russia and that's why it was the only region where the so called greco-catholic/uniate Church survived. It was exactly that sect which was supported by Habsburgs who ruled Galizia and were catholics themselves. Especially starting from the end of XIX century when WW1 was appearing on the horizon Habsburgs were trying to win loyalty of Ruthenians and they first started using the word Ukrainians as a name for the nation. Germans were cooperating with Austrians and the aim was to create a new nation antagonistic towards Russia with uniate Church as a religious and ideological base. This is not coincidence that Ukrainian ideologs and leadership of pro-nazi formations during WW2 had strong ties with that church. On the other hand ruthenian orthodox people suspected of pro-Russian views were being persecuted. At the beginnimg of WWI a concentration camps were established for the members of that community in Thalerhoff and Terezin - many of them were executed and after the battle of Gorlice territories under Austrian and German control were ethnicity cleansed. That was first ethnic cleansing in modern Europe and not much is known about this genocide. Maybe it's worth to make video on that matter. After this only staunchly antirussian elements were left and consequences are visible to this day. In presidential elections in 2019 Galizia was the only region where Poroshenko, a supporter of "tough" antirussian policies, won majority. All other regions choose Zelenski - a supporter of detente and cooperation with this country. As for "holodomor" Galizians use it only for propaganda purposes. They couldn't care less about people who are not "Ukrainian" ( i.e. antirussian) enough.
@@jerzypodgorski8630 it's amazing how western Europeans usually simplify history and issues pertaining to "eastern" Europe mostly to fit their current agenda, hence this infatuation with 'ukraine" as a way of channeling the anti-Russian political sentiments. Kudos to History Hustle for making an effort to go a little deeper, maybe not deep enough, but probably deeper than anyone else on YT. I find his videos very interesting. Average "westerner" doesn't care and usually has very limited knowledge of history including their own.
@@shounen_A Hunger at that time happened also in Russia, Kazakhstan and even outside of USSR - in parts of Poland and Romania on the border with USSR. They were also victims of Stalin's repressions?
Before the war even started there were all kinds of restrictions by the government. I think everyone with a rational mind could know something was so damn wrong. Thank you, Stefan.
Professor, please turn on Polish subtitles. You will have a lot of Polish subscribers. I already subscribed :) And definitely a film about the genocide in Volhynia for my 22-year-old son. You need to know history and do everything you can to prevent it from repeating itself. Thank you for your work ❤️
My German Grandmother was part of this move back to Germany. I have all the Nazi marked paperwork. And my step Grandfather who adopted my father. His real father was German Soldier that died in the war. My step Grandfather Ivan Storonskyj (I drop the J off my Ukrainian last name) was from Ukraine. And he fought for Germany. I have his paperwork. Hated the Russians. My grandmother met him in Germany after the war at a Displace people camps.. Between September 17 and November 17, 1940, by a mutual agreement between USSR and Germany, 43,641 "ethnic Germans" from the Chernivtsi region were moved to Germany, although the total ethnic German population was only 34,500, and of these some 3,500 did not go to Germany. Upon their arrival in Germany, the Nazi government sent most of non-ethnic Germans to concentration camps.[citation needed] Only some of them were freed after the protests of the Romanian government.
It was nice by the Romanian government, but what they had to do with this? They wanted justice, or did most of these "almost germans " were really rumenians??
As Jacek Łu already pointed out, Pavlo Shandruk was saved from being handed out to the Soviets by Gen. Władysław Anders, and so were over 7 000 of his men. They were lucky that the British put them in the camp in Rimini, Italy (where the 2nd Polish Corps was fighting) and that they agreed to Shandruk's request to meet with Anders. One might find it weird that Poles at that time would bother to save Ukrainian nationalists, who fought for the Germans, but they experienced Soviet brutality first-hand and the saying 'I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy' fully applied here. According to _Trail of Hope: The Anders Army, An Odyssey Across Three Continents_ by Norman Davies 176 of these Ukrainians were even allowed to join the 2nd Corps, after undergoing some sort of extensive verification (p. 507, at least in the Polish edition, it might be different in English).
These "uncomfortable" truths have no connection with the current events unfolding in Ukraine. As I mentioned in the video: most Ukrainians fought against the Nazis. At the end only a fraction fought with them.
@@adaspaker8404 poles did collaborate with nazis as well. alot of ukrainians who collaborated with l nazis didn't have nazi ideology, they just wanted freedom from communism. alot of them later turned against the nazis as well when they realized what the nazis were there for.
Holodomor was not just in Ukraine. Was also in other parts of the USSR. The difference being that in Ukraine there were considerably more small rural proprietors, farmers, due to the prevailing mega latifund prevailing in Russia, Kazakhstan...
I wonder why Kazakhstan was effected because they took our weed and exported out of the country poor Kazakhstan couldn’t have any because we had nothing to feed them
In German concentration camps in occupied Poland during world war II, the commanding officers were Germans, senior officers were typically Austrians and the "capos" guards and brutal executioners were Ukrainians. Bands of Ukrainians murdered tens of thousands of Polish women, children and men in western Poland after the war. Their killing methods of Poles were extremely brutal.
That's an absolutely crucial, and always underestimated (or even not mentioned at all) information that you provide from 10:20 to 10:27. And I would like to add that it didn't start in 1943, as the entire nationalist movement you describe earlier was of Greek-Catholic origin as well, basically. That's a very complicated and complex topic, that gets far too little attention.
@@werqzeleke2815 It's a Ukrainian Orthodox church that recognizes Pope's supremacy. It has nothing to do with the Greeks, it's just a reference to the Orthodox faith. However, they are referred to by some as Catholics, because they see Pope as their supreme leader.
@@HistoryHustle Please google something about Volyn massacre. There is even Polish movie called Volyn massacre. And it is forbidden in Ukraine by 'democratic' Ukrainian regime. Soviet famine in 30s happened in Soviet Ukraine meanwhile Ukrainian Nazis were recruited mainly from Galitsia. Do not fall for unobjective anti-Russian political agenda enforced by American propagandists like Timothy Snyder.
@@wladjarosz345 Unimaginable torture and murder will always be nothing but bestiality. Regardless of the political situation.There are a list of 362 torture resulting in the death of that period. Even the Nazis were terrified by this cruelty.
Не было никакого искусственного Голодомора на Украине! Это было следствие Первой мировой, Гражданской войны и неудачной политики! К тому же, страдала не одна "бедная" Украина, а все регионы новообразованного государства! Такое было на протяжении всей истории и в разных странах, но сейчас по понятным причинам принято винить в этом только СССР и Сталина, причём перевирая факты! Никто при этом не учитывает, что по мимо "искусственного Голодомора, были и положительные моменты в истории Украинской ССР, ведь она была одной из самых богатых республик в Советском Союзе, никто в большинстве регионов не жил так хорошо, как Украина, но там теперь принято помнить только плохое!
And today, Ukrainian ulta-nationalists and fascists use symbols from the Nazi-allied groups. My father was from Polish Galicia and was a Jewish child partisan fighting them. It's one thing to discuss these people historically, but quite another to see their symbols carried in the street, or worse by military units like the Azov Battalion.
No , we don’t use facist symbols , we have a sign, of crossbred N and I , that has a meaning of “Idea of nation” , so ,yes , it looks like one of the facist symbol , but they have different meaning among themselves.
There was a Large Ethnic German population in the Ukraine too , After the Bolshevik Revolution and the formation of the Soviet Union, Black Sea Germans, prior to World War II, were subjected to the forced starvation of man-made famines, the closure of German-language churches, schools, and community organisations, and were required to change their language of instruction from German to Russian and were forced into exile in Siberia and Kazakhstan, many into forced labour camps. Many were deported as a result of the collectivization of all Soviet agricultural land in 1930/1931 by Stalin's first five-year plan. The German farmers were labelled kulaks (rich peasants) by the Communist regime, and those who did not voluntarily agree to give up their land to the Soviet farming collectives were expelled to Siberia and Central Asia. The mass deportation of the Germans was based on social and ethnic criteria, the German Russian settlements probably suffered more than any other communities. About 1.2 percent of the Soviet population was classified as kulak and deported to the Gulags (slave labour camps) .
@Mr.Nobody is Somebody capitalism isn't dictatorship isn't it? Apartheid, Nazism, colonisation and elitism didn't come from USSR. So who do you call dictators, clown?
Thank you for this interesting video. I particularly appreciate the conclusion, because the other authors of similar videos don't bother with such "nuances" and leave their audience under the impression that everybody and their mother-in-law fought for the Axis. In addition to the the war crimes against Poles and Jews, I learned that Bandera enjoyed torturing cats. If true, that alone is enough to disqualify him, in my eyes, as a decent human being. I believe a great nation, such as Ukraine, deserves better heroes, like that Ukrainian woman who was buried alive for hiding a Jewish man in her house. Or the one who was forced to run before a German tank until her heart bursts, because she tried to save Jewish children. Carry on your excellent work !
You are so right Mariyana. Many Germans had to keep their mouths shut too. Everybody and their mother-in-law in the Axis, did not support or want to fight for the Axis. This notion of the "Inherent flaw of the German character", is too another racist myth. One of my great grandmothers, Elise Maltzahn, geb. Diestel, was born in 1866. She was about 77 years old and freakishly survived Operation Gomorrah. The night she refused to go to her bunker in Hamburg, she later told my grandmother who was in the U.S., "I would rather die than live like that." That night, her bunker was bombed. She was 77 years old and had lived through so much, even before WW l. She died in 1950, 5 years before I was born. What would an old woman who just wants to be left alone, have to do with politics and militarism? She just wanted to be safe and have coffee, some Brötchen and whatever she could find.
Also there would be really interesting to her about the amount of the nazi-collobarants saved from the revenge over German-USA-Kanada pathway. And also about the terrorories, given by the USSR to Ukraine after the war and also about the hunger, which was a failure, but not only in ukranian SSR, but in Russia and Kasachstan too.
Yes, a lot still nazis, never changed.....but this people haits everybody, not only russians.....there's a video of a conference by Azov officers saying if they take all the power, nobody will have peace, and saying that smiling and joking how tbey will kill a lot of people....just psico's, but having a lot of financement now by western countries....only another murder can defend such monsters
If inadequate people lived next to you who have been trying to occupy you for 10 years and the war has been going on since 1917, let me remind you that Ukraine was not part of the USSR, it was occupied by the so-called Red Army
Very interesting and insightful. Thanks :) Let me add that Pavlo Shandruk not exactly "escaped after the war" since he was decorated with Polish Virturi Militarii - highest Polish military medal prize by gen Władysław Anders in 1945. The leader of free Poles decorated Pavlo Shandruk for his bravery in defence of Poland 1939 -because Shandruk was serving in Polish Army as foreigner among few hundred s.c. 'contracted officers' from the armies defeated by the Red Army in early 1920s - Ukrainians, Belorussians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis.. as an element of strategic game against Soviets - so called 'Promethean action'. Since Shandruk dutifully and bravely served against Nazi Germans in 1939 general Anders introduced him to the 'west'.
Lol, irregardless of what they called themselves, the so-called victors were the Red Army who others unwittingly aided in the slaughtered to 10’s of millions of defenseless Germanic Peoples, (civilians & surrendered unarmed soldiers) destroyed their indigenous homeland resulting in the decades long hostile foreign occupation still existing to this day.
@@HistoryHustle You miht find it interesting too: Polish - Ukrainian Brotherhooh in Arms: th-cam.com/video/YH5VsLmUMxY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=KINIKONFILMSTUDIO
I don't think there were a few hounded of foreign officers in Polish Armed Forces (more like about a hundred maybe less). Pavlo Shandruk was awarded Vitruti Militari in 1961 but I'm not exactly sure by whom, from 1945 the stewardship of the order was retransfered from Commander- in-chief to the president, so it was either by August Zaleski or by the Council of Three (of which gen. Anders was a member).
Thank you so much for touching on this subject and your excellent narration which no one did. Now I understand why Prez.Putin accuses UKR as Nazis. from Sri Lanka.
Путин делает в Украине тоже самое, что советы делали в Польше, а вы стали жертвой пропаганды кремля. В Украине никто не поддерживает то что было в 1943. Россия убивает мирных жителей, и этому нет оправдания.
@@valeritemirof5031 Stupid cynical propaganda narrative. Russia attacks another country and says that there are Nazis there. Do I really need to explain why this is complete bullshit?
Professor, a really nice lecture. It brings into focus the feelings of the average Ukrainian citizen; truely, another lost opportunity for the Germans.
@@wernervoss6357 Their "intenions" have not effect on whether it is a "lost opportunity." When I was a child I played baseball...there were many times I "intentioned" to catch a pop-up ball...neverless, because I missed the ball, it was a" missed opportunity". This is a logic flaw.
Not true. There were plenty of Ukrainian communists/bolsheviks. Its ironic how so many people are now all for historical revisionism which was Stalinesque.
@History hussle thank you for making these videos about colaboration , as its a verry complex question .simular to beeing a resitance fighter. It gives food for thought , as not every thing is as clear cut as people think. they ukrain , georgians baltic states all had a bone to pick with the USSR . for most the germans where liberators well that was untilll they would be treated worse than the sovjets did. . For example you have a ukrainian volunteer joining the germans to liberate the country from the russians. you might call it a resistance fighter. while after the germans starting to implement their racial laws treating the local population as bad and worse as the sovjets did . you might call the same person a collaberator. And for resistance fighters for exmple in the netherlands they often would be called terrorist , and NSB collaborators . its a different situation and sircomsance but you get the idea. The words of colboration and colaborator is complex . as it has many levels .
Thanks for watching and taking the time to write a comment. Indeed, in this area the word 'collaboration' is complex and has many levels. In the Netherlands I think it was more clear cut, but even then there were many grey areas.
@@HistoryHustle Correct, plus the human nature of survival . Even in concentration kamps and durchgangs lagers , there was colaborations between the prisoners and guards. My great grandfather was imprisoned in kamp amersfoort and wrote a little booklet on his experiances , and there where a lot of prisoners that acted like kamp police for some extra rations or better cloths. They usualy where more brutal than the actual kampgaurds .
@Marcus Franconium ...... Yes you Absolutely 💯 correct. UNFORTUNATELY the TRUE DEMONS 😈 never pay !!! Governments took all the scientific and engineering individuals to help with their agendas!!!!
@@marcusfranconium3392oboration in Ukraine and in Netherland not the same. Colloboration in Ukraine was ukranazi .The killed children and old people.
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If the Holodomor was genocide, how do you explain the fact that after Stalin learned about the mass death of people from starvation, he ordered to stop the seizures of grain and ordered, on the contrary, to transfer the grain from the reserve stocks to the Ukrainian SSR?
@@panzerkampf2939 Yay!! 🤗 South African also pro German... We can tell you all about the British. We don't like them neither! Just look up Operation Legacy and British concentration camps in South Africa. Their record is not as clean as everyone makes it out to be.
@@ВиталийКрайнов-х2ш Did you learn this in the Russian or old Soviet school system? Yeah, Stalin was a real great guy...such a humanitarian. Maybe he will get a posthumous Nobel Peace Prize.
@@albertmarnell9976 You can joke as much as you like, but this does not negate the fact that after people in the USSR (in Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Russia) began to die of hunger, the Soviet leadership, instead of continuing to take away bread, on the contrary, began to distribute it among ordinary people.
@@albertmarnell9976 No, I did not study in the USSR. I was born in 1993.
The current Ukrainian parliament and Zelenski just celebrated Stepan Banderas birthday, so how much has changed actually?
How much has changed? Let's see, no German troops overrunning the country (fair point, now it's the Russians). Now Polish civilians being killed. I'll be honest, I don't think it's a good idea to have this man as a national hero. That doesn't justify Russia's actions.
@@rongold7719 yes zelinski is jewish
@@HistoryHustle Instead they have shoot-outs with the Polish soldiers helping them and force their minorities to fight some of their bloodiest battles against the Russians just to get rid of them.
Ukraine is exactly the same as then.
The situation resembles the one in WW2 when Poles were killing Germans in Danzig before their invasion by Germany and the SU, Ukraine was also provoking the Russians with the same thing through the Zelensky puppet-regime.
Blackrock made its way to us and to Ukraine in the meantime coincidentally.
Whether that morally justifies it or not.
Wars are horrible, but like Tacitus said: 'A bad peace is even worse than war.'
@@rongold7719It doesn't matter. Stella Goldschlag was also Jewish, but served in the Gestapo
@@rongold7719 and israel was a state that hitler wanted to exist before the brits and jews so what now?
During World War II, my grandmother ended up in Ukraine. She said they were more afraid of the Ukrainian nationalists than the Germans.
Can I ask where she was from and how you ended up in Ukraine? What made her so more afraid of the Ukrainians.
@@HistoryHustle Wolynia massacrare in 1943 could offer an interesting insight. The tortures inflicted to civilian population are beyond horrific. Even the Nazists were horrified at the brutality of those massacres.
@@HistoryHustle hangover i guess, you get maried, you drink too much and wake up in Ukraine
Wrong.
@@HistoryHustle ... hey, i appreciate your interest in the truth in history. Can you do video about what Scott Ritter (a former US intell officer, who told Americans the truth about WMDs in Iraq before Bush's invasion of the country and who has been recently been consulted by many people for what is currently going in Ukraine) has mentioned only in passing? He says US intell services - before the creation of the CIA in 1947 - supported Nazi collaborators in Western Ukraine as underground insurgency from 1945 to 1953. He mentioned that their activities may have been responsible for the Cold War itself
Growing up in a Ukrainian neighborhood in a major US City 10-15 years post war, my father once remarked that about half of the older men were war criminals. He moved there because of language/cultural familiarity as a teen immigrant himself but they sickened him and eventually got out of that cesspool as he got educated, leaned decent English, got a decent job and the means to leave the city. Later found out our CIA funneled money to some of their organizations and leaders in service of the cold war.
This collaborating with the enemy of my enemy is always a gross and sickening affair, and at times even bites one in the ass as we have found in recent history.
Thanks for sharing.
dleechristy --- By any chance, are you speaking of the Ukrainian community of Chicago?
@@marianotorrespico2975 loking up the histories of various groups in WWII it was hilarious to see some of them died in some Chicago suburb.
@Русич Укроп --- MURDER WILL OUT, ALWAYS. | Correct, but, for most people in The West, the Ukrainian collaboration in realising mass-murders for the Nazis remains the great "Yes, but. . . ." concerning Ukrainian social commitment to "freedom" and "liberty", "equality" and playing well with non-white Others.
In the 1970s, the "Ukrainian Village" community of Chicago featured many such anti-communist fellows, who, in exchange for a beer and a chaser, readily voiced their anti-Semitism to explain that Hitler was the lesser evil than . . . "The Jews" and Uncle Joe. Just the hatreds of George Wallace voiced with a Ukrainian accent.
@Русич Укроп --- THE WEST LOVE "GOOD NAZIS"! | Yes, but historical reality (atrocity photographs, survivor memoirs, graveyards, etc.) indicates that "Russian Nazism" is a comforting lie for suburban Western consumption (i.e. Murica and Britain), because the contemporary neo-Nazi Svoboda Party (the éminence grise of the Murican war in Ukraine) descended from the Ukrainian anti-communist Ukrainians who collaborated with the German Nazis; verifiable history known to most of the people of planet Earth, except in the U.S. and in Ucraina.
My great grandfather is from Wolyn. He and his brother where the only people to survive from his village as the ukrainiuns burned everyone in a barn. My greatgrandfather ended up in the polish peoples army.
Thanks for sharing.
What were they doing in Volyn?---Were they supporting the Polish occupiers of Ukraine?
@@WangAiHuaWołyń to ziemie polskie . Ukraina istnieje od 1991
This units along with other Ukrainian peasants did so bestial massacres on Polish citizens that its even hard to describe, even Germans were disgusted from methods that they used. Its really sad not many people know about it nowdays.
They seemed to think the Jews weren't even worth wasting bullets on, so they bayoneted them...
@@billd.iniowa2263 They cut arms and legs, heads with axes, slice bellies of pregnant women and take out children to impale them on the fences, throw small kids from mother's arms to the fire, burn people alive and many more bestial threatments.
Not surprising, considering figures like Khmelnitsky are still viewed as national heroes in Ukraine.
Thats beacuse its a myth that had only been propagated in recent years.
To be clear I’m not denying that anything happened. I condemn in the strongest possible terms all those who killed civilians.
I’m commenting that the events have been exaggerated and twisted by Polish nationalists and pro kremlin forces.
The number of victims have been greatly inflated (only 20,000 Polish names have been identified after extensive research, although this doesn’t mean that only 20,000 Pols were killed). The method of killing is also lies about, where a few extreme instances are made out to be the norm (not that killing civilians isn’t brutal by any means). The organization of the events as an intentional extermination (as opposed to tit for tat killing of civilians) is also without evidence. Finally why is it that the Ukrainian civilians (over 10,000 names identified) are not mentioned?.
So the reason no one knows about this is because the way this movie and this persons comment paint it is a lie that is incredibly disrespectful to the actual victims of these events.
@@maryanchabursky9148 cope
I am a Holocaust survivor and witness The nazis gave the orders but the Ukrainians did the killings including the killings of my mother father and little sister and all my extended family. I hid in the forest for 2 years like an animal from the Ukrainians. The soviets liberated me from hell. Pls History should not be distorted. War is devastating and my heart goes out to the real victims which are the innocent children.
Sorry to hear this. Thank you for sharing this. Best wishes!
apparently Putin seems want to follow Adolf footstep by invaded Ukraine for no apparent reason,, so sorry to hear ur sad story
🙏thank you for sharing this
@@HistoryHustle sorry to hear this? And yet you defend the ucranian nazis, an animal you are
Now you kill Palestinians as revenge?
In his Ukraine war speech, Putin mentioned Neo-Nazis and Banderites. Now I know what he was talking about.
Do notice Putin's speech is nonsense since today these extremists are not in the government.
@@HistoryHustle Dank je wel. Zo ver ik weet is het azov bataljon etc. opgenomen in het leger en hierdoor is hun invloed weg. Wat goed kan werken, kijk maar in Colombia met de FARC. Helaas zijn er mensen die de nieuwe realiteit niet op de voet volgen. Leuk om te zien dat je op deze oudere video nog commentaar geeft. Het ga je goed.
@@HistoryHustle They were responsible for the 2014 maidan coup. They have been in the goverment. They might have "retreated" into other positions where they are less visible, but the nazis are a very real thing. th-cam.com/video/KfaAyiP8Wuc/w-d-xo.html
@@HistoryHustle really, do some research. They are in the government, in position of power.
@@HistoryHustle Its not true. Ukrainian foundation of the state is the cult of Stephan Bandera, pure nazi.
My Jewish family was hacked to death with shovels in Kiev. Then they took over their apartment.
My Mother shudders whenever she hears Ukrainian.
Please make a video on Khmelnitzki who is still a national hero in Ukraine.
Sad to read. I can imagine such terrible acts leave a bad impression. Do notice most Ukrainians fought against the Nazis and didn't participate in sich killings.
@@HistoryHustle An estimated 6000,000 Ukrainians collaborated,and they ran some of the Nazi concentration camps for Germany too.
@@HistoryHustle If so, why Bandera and Schouhevitch are their main heros right now? They could chose somebody else. In Poland Bandera is forbbiden as Hitler. Nonotherless polish people help them during this war. I really think that polish are very kind and naif people.
Itzhak Shamir told of the Ukrainians that they should get on their knees to ask Jews forgiveness.
I haven't forgiven. This is why I am ambivalent about the actual Russian Ukrainian wars. I see the Ukrainians as bad victims, like the Dreyfusards looked at Dreyfus ( a very impleasant man) as a bad victim.
elensky/ clownsky/ zelensky is also a jew. Who celebrates bandera!
Many of the guards in the death camps in the ww2 were Ukrainian and they were the most brutal. Why was this l wonder !!!
Feel free to watch the video.
Evil! War brings out the good and the worst in people. Fanatics can alway´s justify their bloody deeds.
their legacy is carried on by their grandsons from currently encircled (and soon to be destroyed) Azov battalion
Well they are useful
@@HistoryHustle it's called the babiyar, they burried most of the jews alive. As a Jew I can only say, f..k zapadenci
This is by far one of the best history lessons of Ukraine I have ever seen.
Thank you for your reply!
You cannot have “By far one of the best”. It’s either “By far the best” or “One of the best”. You must be English. We are really thick!
Grammar does not change fact nor history.
I don't belive it because here are nothing about the Holomodor. Stalin murders millions of the people in the Ukraine and only because of this they work together with Hitler. Nothing to say about the Holomodor could not bring good history working , because the Holomodor is the most importend for that was beeing in later times in the Ukraine.
The Ukrainians were treated better by the Nazis than Stalin and the Russians. Tell us how many Ukrainians were murdered by Stalin during the 1920's and 30'S
They, some Ukrainians, shocked even their German occupiers as to the brutality that they meted out to their Jewish brothers and sisters. This must not be forgotten. But it will be if not forgotten, be ignored.
Feel free to share this video.
Vengeance is mine sayeth the L- rd
I remember watching a documentary about ukrainian jews and one of the man said that many jews actually fled from Ukraine to Germany after WW2 was over. Back then I was completely shocked because I didn't know much about the history of Ukraine.
Really? Remember who was in charge here - not the Ukes. As mentioned in this episode many Ukrainians risked their lives and hid Jews.
"Jewish Brothers and Sisters" lol, a Ukrainian isn't a brother or sister to a Jew.
To som fakty Historyczne !!O ktorych nie wolno zapomniec !!!Karma zawsze wraca !!
Czy popierasz to, co dzieje się na Ukrainie? gdyby nie karma, jak to nazywacie, to w Polsce nie byłoby więcej niż 2 miliony uchodźców. Ale głupi bóbr, który boi się Bandery, tego nie rozumie. I pomyśl o tym teraz, kurwa
Those who forget history, live it once again.
the current Fuhrer of the 4th Reich (Russia) is acting similarly to the actions of Hitler in the 1930s-1940s. This is the genocide of the Ukrainian people, the annexation of Crimea, the total lies of Russian diplomats in the international arena, false TV channels controlled by the Kremlin junta, and, in the end, a direct full-scale invasion from 9 directions into the territory of Ukraine. You have to be a complete carrion, an inadequate person to support the actions of the Russian fascist government in these months and years
są, reszta się zgadza
What karma? Germany lost eventually and we got repressed by USSR again, in 1947 Poland, Soviets and Czech Republic committed an operation called "Vysla", the goal was to deport all ethnic Ukrainians from their ethnic territories in order for Poland to claim them, Lemkivschina, Nadsyannya, Pidlyashya and Holmschina. We got tortured more than enough by every country around us so every Ukrainian felt that "karma" and that's why we fight for our independence today, russia will just continue to destroy us like it always did.
The Ukrainian SS formations were held in extremely low esteem by the main Waffen SS units. This all came to a boiling point in mid 44' when Hitler was told that there was a fully armed Ukrainian SS formation basically just lounging around behind the front doing nothing. He flew into a rage and ordered the HSSPF (HöhereSSu.Polizeiführer) Ukraine to be disarmed and pressed into service on the Vistula (Wişwa)front to dig anti-tank ditches. This of course caused a widespread mutiny and mass desertion event. Fun times in 1944... the Ukrainian auxiliaries from 1941 onward were accurately portrayed in "Schindlers List". They wore the repurposed/surplus Allgemeine SS black uniforms, with green wool collars and they were the "muscle" in the Concentration Camps and were particularly vicious.
Thanks for sharing your additional insights on this topic.
@@HistoryHustle please, dont read this piece of shit.
If you want, I can say something about division 14 SS
Because Im found many information about this division
Can I ask your personal opinion. I am caught/stuck between the area when Ukraine northern half was /Russian/Ukranian and the south part was Tatar/steppes people (18th cent) and the year when Krushchev gave Ukraine (beginning of 1950's?) In Canada there are Ukrainian communities , so when do you think the birth of Ukraine happened?
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex the first Ukrainian state came to existence in 882 by the name of Kievan Rus’, but it was later destroyed in 1240 by the golden horde and gone for another 400 years until the Cossack state led by Bohdan Khmelnytsky emerged in 1649 from the lands of Rzeczpospolita (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth), which was later destroyed and annexed again, but now by the muscovites. After the dissolution of the russian empire and following the October revolution, another Ukrainian state emerged, now by the name of Ukrainian People’s Republic, which received full autonomy and following the Fourth Universal of the Ukrainian Central Council, it became fully independent and sovereign. By this time the bolsheviks have already bitten off a giant chunk of Ukrainian land, and with the little power the UPR had, they asked for help from the central powers, which led to Austro-Hungarian troops liberating all of Ukraine from the bolsheviks in exchange for food from Ukraine, but because of Ukraine failing to repay the debt and the civilians uprising against the Austro-Hungarians because of the high demands, the central powers had to remove the current democratic government and install a monarchist government led by a former russian imperial general and hetman Pavlo Skoropadsky (this is the time when UPR was renamed to the Ukrainian State). When the central powers collapsed after their defeat in WW1, Skoropadsky was left all by himself without any support, and the civilians protested against him because of his russophilic tendencies which led to him resigning and the former UPR government taking control of the country again. While the Ukrainian-Soviet war continued, the Western Ukrainian People’s Republic emerged from the eastern majority-Ukrainian lands of former Austro-Hungary, which was immediately attacked by Poland, but later united with the UPR. By this time the Poles have realized that there is a bigger threat to their nation known as the bolsheviks, and after uniting with the Ukrainians, they both reached Kyiv, but were forced to retreat because of the strong, but luckily failed, Warsaw offensive carried out by the bolsheviks. After all of this, the entirety of Ukraine was officially annexed by the red army and was forced to become a part of the USSR for another 70 years, until it collapsed and Ukraine has restored its independence and sovereignty. Now, Ukraine is still fighting for the right of its freedom, but the main difference is that it’s alliance is bigger and better than ever.
In reality, Ukrainian history is indeed very rich and diverse, and requires a lot of time and dedication to learn it, hence why I could only fit like 3% of all of its history in this comment. If you’re interested, you should buy and read a huge book about it, it won’t disappoint for sure. Thanks for reading.
@@ruthenian.wisdom kay will do
My family Doctor was Ukrainian and had a thick accent. He spoke German, Ukrainian, Russian. and English. He mentioned once that he came to the United States for the first time in his life in 1959.
This Doctor had an 8 x 10 photograph of himself wearing a United States Army Captains uniform with Army medical corp insignias.
One day I asked how could this be possible?
He told me that in 1940 he became a medical doctor in the Ukraine. Most of his family including himself had sided with the Germans in WW2.
When the war turned and the Russians came into the Ukraine the Russians executed any men remotely believed to be collaborating with the Nazis.
The Doctor fled West to Germany until he found an advancing US Army unit to surrender to. The Doctor begged the Americans not to return him to the Ukraine and certain death by the Russians.
After serveral exams to prove he was really a doctor and interrogations the Americans made him a deal.
You join the US Army for 14 years and serve as a Doctor.
Being a US Army Officer no Russians will touch you.
Upon completion of your US Army 14 year service you will be sworn in as a US Citizen and can immigrate to the United States.
Yes Ive heard this factual story before.
Putin claims of Nazis in Ukraine is real.
@@HistoryHustle Thanks I did watch your video and I did not say MOST Ukrainians sided with the Germans, of this I have no knowlege. I wrote MOST of my Doctors Ukrainian family , including himself sided with the Germans.
Reading skills cognitive issues?
Nazi is German member of NSDAP.
@@jonathonbrooks651 i know he is.
If he read my post, my Ukrainian born and raised Doctor admitted that he and his family member sided with the Nazis in WW2.
The Doctor was only allowed to save himself because he was a Medical Doctor and the Anericans could use him
The Doctor never said that he was a Ukrainian Nazi he just said he was on the German Nazis side in WW2
Putin is right there were and probably still are Ukrainian Nazis
Operation paperclip. Thousands of nazis got refugee status in USA after ww2.
@@HistoryHustle But thier government still praise pro nazi war criminals. You clearly know that. You stood next to Bandera statue in lviv. What horible people would build this man a statue? Ukrainian government is also horible
SS 14 elite division from Galicia was operating in Yugoslavia, killing civilians. Unfortunately we were thought that they were Germans . In communist Yugoslavia we blamed Germans and Scandinavian countries for Nazisam ,Scandinavians as passive collaborators,the first time I learned about this dark history of Ukrainians was here in Canada. We did learn about SS 14 division but they were portrayed as Germans, system made us believed that Ukraine was fighting Nazies. I am shocked actually that Slavs would do this to Slavs. We did have Ustase in Croatia but at least in Croatia there was resistance to Nazies among Croatians too.
If you'd watch the video you would discover most Ukrainians fought against the Nazis.
Oh I know that, I did research, specially now , I know exactly where they are from. My prayers are with people of Ukraine affected with the same evil 🙏☦️
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The ratio of resistance to Ustasha's was: 80% Serbs, 10% Croats, 10% the others.
It would be fair to talk about Ukrainians in the Red Army, and reading the comments below makes me feel sad, because my great-grandfather Ukrainian died fighting against the Nazis, your video is enough classmates showed the situation in Ukraine in the 40s
my grandfather is a native of the East Ukrainian SSR, when the war began in 41, he was 18 years old, and he went to the front. I still can't imagine how an 18-year-old guy who didn't hold a gun in his hands could survive being an artillery and mortar scout. he did not take Berlin and returned home only in 1947, 6 years later. first, he expelled the European Nazis, and then fought in western Ukraine in Lviv and zacarpathia, chasing through the forests for what they later became known as бандеровцы. it is impossible to imagine more terrible bastards than the Ukrainian Nazis. they were not only cruel bloodsuckers, but also cowards who could "fight" only with the defenseless and innocent. they only cared about their own skin, drank like devils and mocked people. I advise you to ask about their methods of killing, believe me, Ganibal will not seem so cruel to you. one of the Ukrainian entertainments was the murder of children in the eyes of mothers or the rape of daughters and wives in the eyes of loved ones.
Спасибо за честный комментарий!👍
Your comment will most likely be deleted, because this information does not correspond to the modern narrative of helping the poor piggi of Ukraine, which was attacked by evil Russia bear for no reason (as Western propaganda tells it)
Your grandfather is an executioner and a bastard, he was an occupier in Western Ukraine. He came there as an occupant, just as now the Russians have come to Ukraine. Western Ukraine was not the USSR before the start of the war.
Спасибо за рассказ.
Обо всем этом много художественных фильмов было снято на украинской киностудии имени Довженко и Киевской киностудией, мы на них выросли, а ветераны ВОВ нам еще больше ужасов рассказывали по самих фашистов. Мы по знаменательным военным датам приглашали еще тогда молодых или не очень пожилых на наших ветеранов на "Уроки мужества" (о Великой Отечественной Войне), которые мы сами-дети организовывали.
Однажды кто-то из детей разболелся и задал свой глупый вопрос: " А может, было бы лучше, если бы вы фашистов не убили и они победили?" До сих пор помню лицо нашего гостя-ветерана, это была женщина... Она пришла счастливая, улыбалась, когда про страшные бои рассказывала, у неë голос дрожал. Но когда она к концу встречи услышала этот вопрос... Еë глаза передали то, что она видела. Улыбка сошла с еë лица. В неë как-будто выстрелили. Она с трудом из себя выдавила: "Ребята, если бы они победили, то не было бы ваших мам и пап, потому что фашисты убили бы их мам и пап, а вы бы никогда не родились. Некому было бы вас рожать. Фашисты убивали всех подряд.". Мы все просто онемели после еë объяснения. Меня прошибло (потрясло) так мощно, что я это еë объяснение применяю в жизни -- как методику победы. Особенно, теперь, когда нацисты нас, россиян, атакуют даже в соцсетях, я опираюсь на тот самый урок от нашего ветерана.
Верю, мы завершим дело наших ветеранов.
Ну а пруфы где то есть?
Bandera was released from Zellenbau on 28 September 1944, and he was formally kept in Berlin under house arrest, but in reality he was free. On 23 February 1945 the Germans decided to establish the Ukrainian National Committee in Weimar, and officially recognized it on 12 March 1945. Bandera became one of its leaders.
Bandera being de facto free during the house arrest, is easy to understand. The touchy is, how free to work politically he was in the conc camp of Zellenbau? Ie, the atrocities in Volyn 1943, done by his supporters in his name, WERE they ordered by Bandera?? Had he any influence on them - encouraging OR trying to calm down the worst excesses??
@@barneydenstad2148 one thing is obvious if only Hitler would allow to establish puppet independent Ukraine under Bandera there were no any other tensions between him and Nazis. Just like they did in Croatia or Slovakia.
@@ruslankbr5243 True. But being non belligerent with Germany and accepting their umbrella, wasnt the same as actively supporting a nazi-policy... Finland, their military allies, definitely wasnt. Bulgaria, whom WAS their ally, did saved all its 50 thousand jews... They simply refused to submit their citizens of jewish ancestry, the bishops and the state. But Vichy-France, although NOT military ally, happily send arrested and send away their citizens of jewish ancestry.... Why, the antisemitic vichy laws were still ruling in the north african possesions, even after the americans occupied the north african parts of France...
@@barneydenstad2148 but ukranian nationalist always were both fascist and antisemitic and of course they killed polish people even civilians. I can give you opposite example of Croatian Ustashi they surpassed Germans in cruelty in many ways. And you don’t quite know about Finnish army behaviour in USSR, do you think Germans and their allies killed only Jews?
Bandera was sentenced to death for terrorism by a Polish court. The German-Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939 saved his stinking ass.
Ever since my freshman year as a history student in college, I've been mystified over the proclivity of certain Ukrainian groups to seek out to join those groups amenable to Nazi/neo-Nazi currents. I was horrified by the seeming complicity in the Babi Yar massacre, and centuries before in the Bohdan Kkmelnytski massacres of whole Jewish populations in Ukraine. This well researched, constructed, and presented video has helped to shed much needed light on those troubling questions. Thank you.
Thanks for replying.
@@screwstatists7324 top bad we know it's not, collaboration with the Nazis, and active Neo-Nazism like the Azov Battalion, is well documented.
Tell us how Stalin had everyone in Ukraine jails murdered before the German troops arrived ?
@@screwstatists7324 Katyn Massacre comes to mind and we should never forgot that Russia and Germany both invaded Poland in 1939
@@greghall9410 You are correct about that one particular detail. Remember, although a self-described student of history, Stalin was uber paranoid, a fact we need to factor in to your question; but your question is challenging and not easy. Thank you.
What a SUPERB introduction to this EXTREMELY complicated theatre of war on the Eastern Front..I applaud you for making this very complex step into this (still continuing) legacy of both the Second World War and in many ways..its continuation as we see it now in the 21st Century
Thanks for your reply Robert!
I visited Lemberg in 2019. At a flea market I showed interest in some stuff a very old lady was selling. When communication proved difficult, a young man stepped in to translate. He spoke Ukrainian, Russian, English and my native German. When the old lady realized I was German, she became quite excited and took my hand and showered me with compliments and good wishes. Not knowing much about the troubled history of Ukraine then, it only later occurred to me that this person must have been a Nazi collaborator back in the days. All the more disturbing I find the current situation when German tanks roll once more against Russia. What a sick world!
Same year I was in Kiev. they sold nazi symbolic at the central square - infamous Maidan
We don't have to worry about Ukraine. They decided their own fate. I'm worried about Poland. Duda and Morawiecki are in some kind of bad ecstasy, like half of Poland. It seems to me, or are they going to fight with a nuclear power? I hope they just want to conduct a special operation in the west of Ukraine. Let them take these clinical idiots with them and suffer with them themselves)))
@@MaxRockatansky78 Seems like Polish leadership did not learn the history of Poland from the books of reality but from the same books they now teach Polish population. They still don't get why Poland was partitioned so many times. They don't understand WHY Volyn massacre has occurred, etc.
@@theodorekell It's quite the opposite Russia is mainly responsible for the partitions and weakening of the Commonwealth of both nations (apart from the aristocracy). It was Russia that maintained a dictatorship in Poland for 40 years after the Second World War, as in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. If Poland behaved now as it did before the Second World War, when the sanation, fooled by Piłsudski's henchmen after his death, was in charge, Ukraine would probably no longer exist, divided like Czechoslovakia due to old conflicts and spilled blood as then, instead Poland at least to some extent learned defeat in '39, and despite all the well-deserved resentment towards Ukraine, helps defeat the greatest threat to all European countries east of the Oder River.
Apart from the factor of Bandera and other garbage of his kind, the Volhynian massacre was also caused by the actions of Poland itself in the form of actual betrayal and sharing of Ukraine with the Russians in Riga, the settlement of Poles in Volhynia in order to polonize Ukrainian lands, the state discrimination of Ukrainians which grew with each terrorist attack they carried out and general policy towards the agricultural population. With all this in mind, the current actions of both the government and part of the Polish population itself is a departure from all the bad things that happened in the past
Most underrated channel on TH-cam. Incredible amount knowledge on the subject matter of an Incredibly complex and deep subject in human history
Many thanks, Jacob. Feel free to share.
I agree
Thank you for this excellent "backgrounder to history" in Ukraine. Many people, just like I, have not know of is so important that the TRUTH of history does not get lost or factually "diluted".
Thanks for watching.
what Soviets did to Ukrainians in Holodomor I think Ukrainians were justified to fight for freedom with Nazis
Studing the past dont forget to look on here and now. History of colonized nation without their government and independence is complicated and as a rule all empires will use them as a resource. Ukrainians killed each other in FWW being divided by empires, SWW, same going on RIGHT NOW, because part of their country was occupied in 2014.
@@katrinfilipicheva7836 Part of "their country" is actually lands of Russia. For example, people who live in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkov, Kherson, Odessa regions and Crimea are russian-speakers and they wanted to be a part of Russia since 2014.
The Anglo-Saxon version of history seems to be true, but there is so much misrepresentation and adjustment of facts to suit your interests. If two neighbors quarreled and fought, then an Englishman came to them yesterday ....!
A small correction at 9:23 . The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) rarely fought the Home Army (AK), as there were few or no such units in the area. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army "fought" against Polish defenceless civilians, of whom it murdered around 100,000, from infants to the elderly, killing in an extremely barbaric manner
Indeed.
I'm afraid to upset you, it's a lie. Before we talk about it, you need to have facts
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Thanking a russian fascist propagandist makes you a traitor to Poland. Wait and thank russians when they again try to invade Poland. Have you ever heard of Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Moscow collaborating with Berlin in the first two years of the WWII. 2 million Russian nationalists and armenian legions fighting on the nazis side. Why did the Russian, armenians and Persians collaborate with nazi Germany? If a little amount of Ukrainians make Ukraine look bad, what did that make millions of russian, armenians and persians? Think about it!
Поздрав од Србина, ми овде све то већ знамо. И верујемо да ће Истина победити.
Почитав комментарии не понял, как автор видео до сих пор считает, что вражда бандер с союзом не связана с текущей
@@AIwRussia bo debil...
As a person who lived in Kyiv a year as a British English language consultant. I was appalled to read historical inaccuracies that were evident on display in Kreschatik. However you've put everything right here. Thx.
Thanks, Steffan.
Did you know modern dy Kreschatik was built by Stalin? In Stalinist Empire architectonical style.
@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR I knew a little yes. Thanks for the rest of it.
Those historical inaccuracies are standard in American media in the last 10 days
You were a spy, did you write any books?
Unbelievable!!!! Finally you try to explain to many people what real story !!! Thank you. This need to be show to everyone who is screaming on Russians! Thank you. Spasibo
Perhaps watch the video before you reply: 220,000 while 4.5 million fought for the Soviets. So roughly 1 : 20 (Axis - Allies).
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From Russia Moscow. My grandfather was killed in ww2. And I know very well what Ukrainian Nazi did within ww2 !! Thank you for this video
and do we care to check again where the biggest part of this anti-nazi ukrainians came from?
@@nataliaisaac5494 what Soviets did to Ukrainians in Holodomor I think Ukrainians were justified to fight for freedom with Nazis
@@nataliaisaac5494 eternal glory your grandfather 🙏
Thank you from Bulgaria
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Another brilliant material. Thank you, our Dutch history teacher. Sending lots of respect from Scotland Me, and my friends loves watching you. All the best !!
Many thanks for your reply.
Viva Scotland from Australia!!! As far as I'm concerned the Scottish wear the crown of England metaphorically & in reality. The Scottish throne was stolen by the English!
I’m amazed by all the factions that existed in Europe due to cultural and nationalistic differences. And the disastrous results of when “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. I know this is very over simplified, but as long as a groups of people’s grow suspicious snd not trusting of each other (as history seems to prove over and over) this inhumanity will continue either on a local scale or even as we learn from our history teachers on a global scale like that of world war 2. Thank you again on the history stories. May we all learn from it.
Thanks, Edward! The so-called 'border lands' was a messy place.
Fabricated "exceptionalism", be it colour of skin, the nation you are born in, the faith you follow or the sexe one is attracted to is abused to normalize violence even today.
@@HistoryHustle If the Holodomor was genocide, how do you explain the fact that after Stalin learned about the mass death of people from starvation, he ordered to stop the seizures of grain and ordered, on the contrary, to transfer the grain from the reserve to the Ukrainian SSR?
@@ВиталийКрайнов-х2ш А все понятно. Смотреть я его не буду :)
@@trolol3pacanov Вот это правильно. Я после его слов о том что голод на Украине был геноцидом сразу же влепил дизлайк этому видео.
Veru interesting and informative, especially today with what is going on in the Ukraine. Thank you. Just subbed.
Welcome to the channel!
My mom had an apartment in Kiev. In 2015 that street was renamed to Shuhevich street.
Interesting. It would be interesting to see more information on the Ukrainian massacre of 100,000 Poles in 1943.
Details of this are often ‘hidden’ in ‘the West’.
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They murdered a half million of Poles between 1939-1947.
See link above your comment from ‘history hustle’
They massacred each other vice versa...none of them is better than the other ... to see these two collaborating right now is nothing but a charade .. give the Poles a chance and they swallow as much of Ukraine as they can ...not realizing that this will cause vomiting 🤮 and constipation afterwards .
Some do not learn from history at all . Poles and what ever you might call Ukrainians are a prime example for this fact . Pretty sad story ,but 'stupidity does not protect from punishment ' . The punishment is on it's way: for both of them .
It is a pity that there are no more Poles in western Ukraine. It would simply be beneficial for Russia to divide Ukraine with Poland and Hungary. And so, these are just former Polish territories without Poles. Although, the Hungarians are still alive, but Zelensky is going to fix it.
Thank you for this history lesson. It helps me to understand why Putin wants to ‘denazify’ Ukraine, or actually, why he wants to use nazis as his excuse. Very interesting lesson.👍🏼
Thanks for watching.
I think everyone uses Nazis too much
Actually Putin is way decent about rooting out the ugly satanic Nazi new world order elite crap. The world does not need evil Nazi satanists controlling every nation. Kick them the hell on out no matter what it takes. Their only joy is your misery and death. If they cant use you or make money from you, they want you gone!
We cannot explain HISTORY using only one picture. Do not be fooled by appearances. The life is MUSIC, not a straight line!
NO excuse
Nazis in Ukraine, truth, not propaganda. Good detailed information about Zelensky, too.
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and from BBC longer ago, this was known:
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Max Blumenthal Grayzone
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Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia - BBC Newsnight
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Your work is amazing! I appreciate all your effort to do these incredible videos to unravel facts about ww2 that are rarely explored. Thank u!
Many thanks for watching!
C'mon man, we're getting better! It only took a YEAR to come to that realization!! OFFICIALLY!
Yes, when Serbs talked about this 6 years ago u called us Russians
It’s interesting that people who were recently (and probably still are) Holocaust deniers are now so concerned about Ukrainian involvement in the Holocaust.
I'm sure there are such people. Crazy indeed.
Hello history hustle. I have a request for you. Could you do a video on Volhynia and Eastern Galicia massacres. Most people have never heard of them. Considering them to be the most barbaric and sadistic acts that took place during WWII they should be told. I'm not discounting the holocaust or the crimes committed by the Japanese army. BTW, thank you for your dedication to teaching history honestly and genuinely. I christen you a "hero of history."
Please watch this video of mine:
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I added a link about the crime in Volhynia.
I wish someone mentioned Holodomor or at least bloody actions poles did to Ukrainians during WW2
@@convidium Do you like writing fairy tales?
This is the field for you!
These are Bandera lies to justify genocide!
Falsifying history is your specialty.
Why do you forbid finding and burying the murdered?
Shame on Ukraine!
@@Imadelko58 You're pole, right? Do you remember when this idiots in the end of WW2 said that Galicia is Poland, but not Ukraine? Ukrainians back then we're furious. Nonetheless they hoped that maybe they will live in peace. But you - poles didn't think so. You started to destroy Ukrainian nation, calling it "pacification". Tons of repressions, tons of deaths of innocent Ukrainians. I'm not saying that poles are bad people, I understand why you did this. This was basically the same thing Ukrainians did.
I grew up in former "Polish"/"Jewish" city of Ternopil. Many of my relatives were killed both by nazis and poles. Here, we still have museums of polish jails where poles were torturing ukrainians for the same reason russians do now. And yet, I don't hate poles. You should do the same and respect national heroes of another country. OUN and Bandera did some horrible things. We have to remember that, and not idolise them. Though we can't say theese were the bad people, the just choosed bad tactics.
Just imagine you're between anvil and a hammer. Soviets basically killing tens of millions of people and Nazis who do the same. And you're also in a war with poles. What would you do? Who you'd collaborate with? Fucking Nazis used us and promised Ukraine independence and protection if they help them. So now, do understand this actions from Ukrainian perspective?
I'm not protecting anyone, it's everyone's fault. Fuck the soviets, fuck the Nazis, fuck OUN and fuck the poles too. We're all bunch of idiots who did a lot of shit.
But I really hope that finally, poles and ukrainians have become friends. Maybe you are right and we should not admire OUN, thought we didn't, before russia started forcing this claim.
The presenter has excellent enunciation and very clear delivery. Unlike the majority of native English speakers on TH-cam : -)
Thank you Malcolm.
Thank you amazing job
I just noticed that you used ukranian logotype (emblem) which they didn’t use during ww2 anytime before they adopted it in 1996
UPA NEVER fought against nazi, don't lie to people.
Fact
Love your channel. Look forward to each and every episode. Thank you so much for putting in the time.
Great to read. Thanks for your reply 👍
Thanks for sharing this because I moved to Lviv this year and I find the history pretty confusing. People here just say, "Our history is complicated", and leave it at that rather than saying that it was a shame that XYZ happened, and it shouldn`t have happened. I was told by friends in Kyiv to expect pushback if I spoke Russian here, so I should always start conversations in English, all good advice, though only a few instances have happened where anyone showed resistance to Russian. But things are even more sensitive due to the ongoing Russian-supported occupation of the Donbass region and the Crimean Peninsula. All around me are memorials to Bandera, streets and squares and such named after him, so history is alive in Lemberg/Lvov/Lviv.
You arrived from the US regime? You said "pushback"....
A and "Russian occupation of Crimea"!!!!!!
Bzzzt incorrect. Since you are there take a trip to Crimea and Donbass and ask the locals if they are occupied.
@slocad11: today Lviv is a lovely city. Great memories from my visit last times. Glad you watched the episode, thanks for your reply. I always believed speaking Russian in Kyiv is fine, but not of Lviv. I don't speak Russian, so English it is for me :)
@@daviddoran3673 No, I arrived from five years living in Belarus.
I was sent here by someone who told me I should know more about Ukraine collaboration with Nazis. I had no idea thanks for shining a light on a dark part of history.
Thanks for watching.
We most certainly should know more about Ukrainian collaboration with Nazis. Interestingly the most eager accusations come from Russia as if there was no Russian/Soviet collaboration with Nazis.
There was an Ukrainian SS Division, alright. There were three Russian SS-Divisions as well. But contemporary Russians comfortably ignore this fact.
@@eremstemero8823 Lies
@@jefferyoyagbarha750 What exactly?
@@eremstemero8823 какие сс формирования ? Вы имеете в виду Власова?
On such a delicate matter, already before the war, you made a very balanced instructive documentary. Thank you!!
Thanks for watching 👍
Brilliant. Best yet. Very few historians have really ventured much into the centuries-deep causes of the complete obliteration of both the ancient Pale of Settlement Shtetl culture (from the Baltics to the Balkans and from the Rhine to the Volga) and also the ever-shifting balance of power & national boundaries, going back...to the earliest sources we have.
I realize that this would be a departure, Stefan, but a short series on the deeper history of the areas you cover with your primarily 20th century lens would just add so much. And the very same crowd that likes what you do would thank you for it.
Thanks for your reply.
I know I'm super late but I find it very interesting that General Patton wanted to arm the Germans and launch an invasion into the Soviet Union
Believe it was Churchill who had this idea, Operation Unthinkable. Luckily that didn't take place. Patton claimed they fought the wrong enemy which neo Nazis today use for their own means.
@@HistoryHustle The truth hurts.
He wanted to move the Red Army as far east as possible pretty much out of Central Europe. There's a good movie named Silence Patton which describes his brilliant geopolitical mind.
@@HistoryHustle Patton was right.
After all he was a war general in military paradise(germany) and was positioned in bavaria which are very hygenic, orderly and very friendly people. The constructions the germans did for an American, are very familiar. The red army consisted of simple people and farmers from all walks of live and didnt have a military education. This must have appeared chaotic and frightening to this generals ocd. So you should not overrate this statement.
Спасибо большое за видео! Это большой труд. Я не знаю английский, но есть много отзывов и субтитры, которые можно перевести. В наших странах некотрые люди забыли историю! Украина-Израиль💥
"Thanks a lot for the video! This is a lot of work. I don't know English, but there are many reviews and subtitles that can be translated. In our countries, some people have forgotten history! Ukraine-Israel"
Тамара здравствуйте если вы не смотрели фильм "алекс лютый", то посмотрите. История одного полицая во время 2-ой Мировой Войны, который уничтожил тысячи своих соотечественников на Украине...
@@Люся-ъ2ь Спасибо, что ответили. Не могу понять сегодняшний Мир.Что люди забыли ту ужасную Войну, зверства Фашистов❓‼️
Европа может этого не знает, но они скоро поймут, потому что эти нацики здесь громят русские магазины, школы, раскрашивают нацисткую Свастику. Весь Интернет уже кричит от их Хамства. Но справедливость Должна Восторжествовать.
Русские сотрут Нацизм с Лица Земли‼️ А Вам Здоровья и Мира🙏❤
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In today's Ukraine, the collaborators of the SS division "Galicia" are declared national heroes. The sleeve chevron of the SS division became the sleeve chevron of the Army of Ukraine. Also, the Wehrmacht insignia was used in the modern army of Ukraine. On Western armored vehicles that arrive in Ukraine, soldiers apply Baltic crosses of the Wehrmacht. And even a swastika... The West has been pretending for 8 years that he is blind and knows nothing.
Of the 3,500 soldiers of the Azov brigade captured in Mariupol, every second had tattoos in the form of symbols of Nazi Germany... Even portraits of Hitler on the back and chest.... All this was visible when the Russians forced the military to undress to the waist. Everything was filmed on video... Everything is freely available...
But not a single frame of these videos was shown in any country in Europe.
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If you mean the Tryzub, it has been a symbol of Ukraine for thousands of years. For example, the Ukrainian National Republic (also known as the Ukrainian People's Republic) used it, roughly 10 years before Nazism had a name. The symbol itself was used on the flag of the Kievan Rus'.
It's generally just a symbol of Ukraine, not specifically Ukrainian SS. Azov is no longer a battalion, as it was effectively wiped out in Mariupol. It also made up a tiny portion of Ukraine's forces, let alone population, and not all of them were even Nazis. Nazi tattoos were frighteningly common in Azov, yes, but not as common as you say.
As for your claim that these videos are "not shown in any country in Europe" that is blatantly false. These videos are fairly well known and easy to find, as _you_ even state.
You are thinking of the Balkan cross, which is a symbol of the Bundeswehr. The Iron Cross was what you would find in WW2. The crosses seen in videos such as this do resemble the one used in Germany in WW2 (as well as WW1 and prior, mind you) however there is a chance they are meant to be the "Steel cross", an award given to Ukrainians in an independence campaign in 1919.
@@commandercorl1544 The concept of Ukrainians appeared at the end of the 19th century, if anything. And the trident could not be a symbol of Ukrainians for thousands of years. This is not a trident at all, but an attacking inverted falcon, the generic symbol of the obodrite princes. Who lived in the north of this Germany. The inhabitants themselves called themselves Little Russians or Russians. Even in the petition to Tsar Alexei, Ukrainian colonels call themselves Russian people. For understanding - Ukrainians in modern times and Russians now are like Bavarians and Pomeranians in modern Germany. Well, as for the rest, I listened to a whole lecture that there is no Nazism, that the Balkan cross, well, this is generally wonderful. But why do the Ukrainian military draw swastikas on tanks? And the network is full of photos and videos. Under these Balkan crosses, German troops killed the grandparents of modern citizens of Ukraine. And then they drove the bearers of this cross to Berlin .... And now their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are again using the symbols of the Wehrmacht. In general, we in Russia have long been indifferent to what you think to yourself in the West. Watching the circus in the European Union is just tired. Nobody's opinion will be taken into account. And never again will Russia live in harmony with Western Europe. Three times!!!! Russia was deceived.... The first time they said they would not expand NATO. The second time was the Minsk agreements, when Hollande and Merkel said that the agreements were a hoax. Gaining time to arm Ukraine for war with Russia. These are not my words. Third time in Istanbul when the agreement was made. Russia withdrew troops from the north of Ukraine, took them away from the outskirts of Kyiv. After that, Ukraine defiantly stated that it would not fulfill its part of the agreement. And adopted the Law on the prohibition of negotiations with Russia. Everything, there is no faith in the West. And there will be no more. Nobody wants to step on a rake again.
@@VPoster58Galicians, now a Ukrainian minority, first existed as a wholly independent nation in 1253. An actual Ukrainian rebellion happened in 1490, with Ukrainians Fighting against the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. A Cossack uprising began in 1648, lead by Khelminytsky, saw a Ukrainian state established. He did, however, do horrible things to Polish-Lithuanian civilians and soldiers. Later, the Kolivshchina revolt of 1768 saw a Ukrainian loss, however it is an important footnote in Ukrainian history. Ukraine has existed as a nation for a very long time.
Wasn't the Galician SS's coat of arms that of a lion?
I do not believe Swastikas are drawn frequently on Ukrainian tanks, although I don't doubt they have been drawn.
The "agreement" for NATO not to "expand" was never official, never signed into paper, and never discussed beyond a single verbal agreement, had between the United States president and the president of the Soviet Union. This "expansion" is also absurd, as NATO nations vote to join the alliance themselves, and Poland _blackmailed_ the United States into letting them join. The Baltics were equally as eager to join the alliance.
Why would a nation so ruthlessly invaded, decide to negotiate or give up to it's long-time enemy? Why would they simply lay down arms, when their people have been slaughtered and assaulted?
@@commandercorl1544 It’s even difficult for me to answer you .... The lion is a symbol of the Russian prince Daniil Romanovich, who founded the city of Lvov in 1256. Prince Daniel belonged to the Rurik dynasty, the great Russian dynasty.
You have strange information about the Khmelnitsky uprising. Even Wikipedia says it's more interesting...
The atrocities were directed against the population of Poland. Documented. BUT they belong to a later period, when the Ukrainian Cossacks, together with the Turkish army, invaded Poland.
After Doroshenko, the new hetman betrayed the Russians and went over to the side of the Turks. Doroshenko is now a national hero of Ukraine. But his whole life is the life of a traitor. HE betrayed the Russians, then the Poles, then the Russians again, then the Poles again, then he betrayed the Turks. It ended with the fact that after the raids of Doroshenko's troops on the Russian cities, Prince Romodanovsky took the city of Chigirin in a response campaign. Doroshenko surrendered, was taken to Moscow, served the tsar there. He died already under Peter the Great, was buried in the village, presented to him by Tsarina Sophia.
Violent attack? And the fact that Ukrainian artillery killed almost 15,000 civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk in 8 years doesn't count?
And what about the shelling of Russian territory in late January - early February?
And what about the attack on the border post on February 17, when the whole world was shown the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers and burning Ukrainian armored vehicles? Did not see?
So, on February 19, they also tried to attack the border guards in the Voronezh region.
Again corpses, but one fighter from the 25th brigade was captured...
Ukraine refused to admit it, called it a provocation....
The terrible shelling of Donetsk on February 20 from 152-mm guns, the OSCE commission counted 1367 explosions, there were more in total. Local media reported more than 1,600 arrivals. During the night and morning almost 900 people died, women, children... How long did you have to wait?
Putin personally called both Berlin and Paris. But they shrugged their shoulders and said that they were powerless to influence the authorities in Kyiv.
On February 21, the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Lugansk, unexpectedly crossed the river and took the village of Nikolaevka almost on the outskirts of the city. The Russian army has already repulsed the attack ...
Now tell me about the atrocities....
Speaking of Bucha... The Russian army leaves Bucha on March 31 at 12 o'clock in the afternoon... At 15 o'clock the mayor announces that the city is free. On April 1, units of the Ukrainian police enter the city. They walk the streets and shoot videos, there are no corpses .... They pass on April 1, 2, and on April 3 corpses appear on the streets ... Fresh ... Excellent .. According to the Syrian scenario, journalists appear. Not even embarrassed by the fact that the London coroner finds arrow-shaped fragments of D-30 howitzer artillery shells in the bodies of corpses. And this howitzer is in service only with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The fact is that after the occupation of the city by the Russian army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine subjected the city to daily massive artillery fire. In Russia, this howitzer was removed from service in 2008, and the guns were sent to storage. Videos of smoking and rising corpses will not be mentioned. And also a video where these corpses are put out on the street, dragged along the ground, tied to their feet with ropes. And on the video filmed by the residents of the city, you can see exactly how the Ukrainian army robs abandoned apartments in high-rise buildings. You didn't see them anyway... TH-cam quickly deleted them.
You can continue to believe in what they wrote to me. We have different sources of information. And by the way, Russia no longer cares what the West thinks and believes.
Thank you, this has helped myself to better understand events of which my family had to endure during those years.
Thank you for replying.
I had a friend, now dead, who was born in what was then Poland but is now Lithuania. He was serving in the Polish army in 1939 and was taken prisoner by the Russians and sent to an internment camp in Eastern Ukraine. He told me that when it came over the camp tannoy in 1941 that the Germans had invaded the whole camp cheered including the Ukrainian camp guards.
Thanks for sharing.
@@HistoryHustle I should have added he was sent to the UK on the returning Artic convoys.
@@alexbowman7582 Your friend is very lucky because he could have been a victim of the Katyn Massacre
@@slovakpatriot5433 those massacres were on the Polish officers mostly, the intelligentsia
@@alexbowman7582 "those massacres were on the Polish officers mostly"
No, it wasn't. Ukrainians killed children and women with knives thousands.
What officers are you talking about?
i love these Formations series Stefan, keep up the good work my man! We really appreciate it!
Many thanks!
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Great video! When you are between two oppresive regimes you don't really have the "right" option. But my great-grandfathers served in Red army tho ;)
Your great grandfathers were based
@Артем: Thanks for your reply. I agree, the 'right' option wasn't possible.
Many Ukrainian people had relatives who fought and died in this War. Something that seems to get forgotten by those who are keen to label them something else. Its an insult.
@@keikei2942 thanks haha
А поэтому нужно сказать правду, почему люди шли в дивизию "Галичина", почему испанцы воевали против большевиков, которые за короткое время залили кровью эти земли....они шли служить в армию добровольно, чтобы отомстить за гибель своих родственников ...
Always good videos.
Thanks from the UK
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I must admit I didn't know about this historical background and I think that it's a very confusing one. But it's important knowledge. Keep on educating, thanks for this video.
I think Ukrainian books remember times of soviets, they need to update some stuff also i can' t imagine country joining to EU with stuff like glorify of UPA or Bandera etc. in our times. That's anti-Polish and anti-European. Ukrainian writting "Bandera didn't have anything to do with genocide cuz he was in ghetto(actually in Berlin prison he was collaboration with the Germans because the Germans saw in him a benefit in the fight against the Soviets, and that is why he was later killed by the Soviets when he began to cooperate with the Americans.)", well but his army were shouting his name while doing genocide, someone pushed them into action the fact that he was not there does not mean that he is innocent, let me tell you more, Hitler and Stalin did not commit most of the crimes with their own hands either but that doesn't mean they aren't war criminals because they are.
Hope to cover more on Bandera in the future.
Wat about Hungary?
So there were Nazi collaborators in Ukraine as there were in Hungary, Slovakia, Holland, Russia, Spain etc
@@Mewdic Це ж свої, їм можна, як і румунам
Thank you for your elaborate work and input for making this excellent video.
Thanks for watching.
Great video. Hopefully it can give westerners greater perspective on what's going on today. My grandfather was from Kuypansk outside of Kharkov, which switched hands a couple times during the war. They were Russian people. Slav brothers to Ukrainians, that's why current conflict is a mess but not much different than others. My grandfather was a little too young to fight but the Nazis made him and his family forced laborers & they were deported inside Germany after the tide had turned. Some gladly helped nazis to serve their nationalist ideals, others were forced. I recently learned from Scott Ritter, & it's truly a shame that the US was involved with these Ukrainian groups after the war and its really disgusting violence continued in this area.
but what is the main theme: russians WERE there and there WERE such things. russians ARE there and there ARE such things. Nothing new, kids.
Этот историк вводит в заблуждение западную аудиторию. Голод на Украине 30-х годов нельзя называть геноцидом, потому что он охватил и многие другие регионы СССР из-за засухи и коллективизации крестьянства. Политическое руководство СССР не ставило задачи уморить голодом тот или иной народ. Настоящему историку следовало бы это знать.
@@LegatAugustwhat?!!!!🤷🏻♀️🥴
@@ЗривКорень-м5к еще как ставило. Украина, Поволжье и Казахстан. Если русские и казахи хотят дальше делать из комуняк белых и пушистых - их проблема. Если этого не было - пусть Москва откроет архивы и ученые историки смогут добиться правды. Но нет архивы закрыты. Открытые архивы в Украине четко указываю на преступления коммунистов. Голодомор одно из них.
@@alexivlyev9876 ну укажите мне украинские архивы, где чётко показано, что большевики ставят своей целью истребить украинский народ. Я буду очень признателен, но Вы их мне не предоставите, потому, что их не существует. Был ли голод начала 30-х преступлением? Я думаю нет. Это была трагическая ошибка, вызванная вынужденными действиями направленными на ускоренную индустриализацию и наложенная на засуху. Повторяю, умирали не только украинцы, но и русские, и жители других национальностей. Вы о голоде в поволжье и Казахстане что нибудь знаете? Поинтересуйтесь и поймёте, что геноцид украинского народа это ложь, направленная на разжигание ненависти к русским.
BEST HISTORY LESSON YET! Thank you.
Thanks.
I love how everyone around Ukraine is to blame except Ukrainians themselves. Brutal and evil? Yea that's Russia's/Poland's fault. I live in Israel and stories about Ukrainian brutality during the Holocaust are not forgotten. Until this day not even one apology...
Я искренне сочувствую и ужасаюсь трагедии еврейского народа. Мне очень больно и печально, что среди тех, кто участвовал в преступлении Холокоста, были этнические украинцы. Но я никогда не слышала, чтобы в каком-либо государстве выясняли этнический состав преступников-колаборантов. Вы прекрасно знаете, что в то время не существовало независимого государства Украина, и люди, о которых этот рассказ, были гражданами СССР, или недавно сменили польский паспорт на советский. Поэтому я не понимаю, от кого именно Вы ждете извинений?
Again much love for the work you put in to this!! Thanks :)
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The most terrible thing in this situation is that the people of the Vanatics of Hitler's cause, stained with blood, are called heroes, and the monuments of those who gave their lives for the sake of defeating this evil are being demolished, demolished in the countries of the European Union Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, Estonia. If the USSR had lost to a warrior, these peoples could have had a history and a future. and now the descendants of the concentration camp guards are being sent money and weapons, while completely turning a blind eye to ethnic cleansing, the prohibition of all opposition in Ukraine. I lived all my life in Kyiv and my country was again swept by the Brown Plague.
Hope you don't live in Kyiv anymore, russofan
AWESOME PRESENTATION!!' And feeds my love of history. Don’t people get it?! History is not a fragmented thing, it’s all ONE interconnected Human Story unfolding as we go. Thanks Mate.
Thanks for replying!
Let’s not forget that the Germans benefitted by supporting ‘exploited’ minority groups in neighbouring countries. The Slovaks in Czechoslovakia to breakup the country and gain an ally state. The Croats in Yugoslavia to who encouraged them to push for more autonomy (or outright independence). The Baltic states who were just recently occupied by the Soviets (the Latvian legion which many still commentate as for fighting against Soviet aggression, rather than for Nazi ideals). The Ukrainians as you mentioned, and other ethnic minorities in the Soviet Union (such as the Crimean Tatars) during their advance.
Soon more on Croatia in WW2!
Ukrainians were not a minority in the ussr
Yeah that's not true,Slovaks were left as a side product after Czechs were anexxed,the alternative was to get sucked into Hungary which partially happened to the southern provinces where significant part of population was Hungarian. Of course Germans would make sure any new government or country is existing on their terms. Same thing for Croatia,Hitler acknowledged Croatia only when it was clear that he won't get the whole Yugoslavia under his umbrella. No encouragment was needed in any case since both Slovaks and Croats sought for a way to brake free from the political entities they found themselves in,Croats especially. Yugoslavia was bound to collapse anyways,it was barely even functioning since it's establishment in 1918 as a Kingdom of SCS for Serbs wanted and pushed for a unitary state with them as overlords,no one wanted to defend such a Yugoslavia when it ment defending Serbian hegemony. For the Baltic nations and Ukrainians the same,they saw hope for escape from the Soviet grip in Germans and I don't blame them one bit after what communists have done to them all.
This was what I learned over 40 years ago.
Extremely accurate historical facts.
War is a messy business.
Really useful during this time. Awesome work!
Thanks for watching.
Once again a fantastic job. Cheers 🍀🥂👍🍀🥂🍸
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outstanding work!
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Very informative.
Thanks man.
If you don't mind, one small, but important correction:
Stalin didn't inflict "golodomor" purposely, to kill people. The same situation was in some parts of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan was in worst shape.
All information is available in declassified documents.
From research it is clear Stalin exercised extra measures to worsen the famine in Ukraine.
@@HistoryHustle ha ha ha
@@HistoryHustle any proofs to that claim?
@@HistoryHustle false statement. It was everywhere (famine).
@@HistoryHustle After a bit of digging into archives, one can confirm the dirty truth, that "extra measures" were taken by local Ukrainian authorities causing suffering of mostly Russian ethnic population in Soviet Ukraine. Majority of the population on that territory always was and still is Russian speaking.
You seem to forget that Ukrainians who cooperated with Germans CAME MAINLY FROM WESTERN PART OF UKRAINE WHICH UNTIL 1939 WAS PART OF POLAND SO THEY WERE NOT AFFECTED BY "HOLODOMOR". SO CITING "HOLODOMOR" AS THE REASON FOR COOPERATION WITH GERMANY DURING WW2 IS NOT RIGHT.
Please turn off the caps if you want to make a point.
@@HistoryHustle why ?
I used caps only to stress that part of what I wrote so please don't feel offended.
You should ask yourself why Ukrainian nazi collaborators came mostly from the region of Galizia ( that's why "Galizien although that was not their official name) which before WW2 was part of Poland and they were not affected by "holodomor". On the other hand those who lived in Soviet Ukraine and were affected by famine did not cooperate with Germans. This is for historical reasons. Galizia was the only part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth inhabited by Ruthenians ( at that time word Ukraine was being used only in geographical sense) which after partition of that country in XVIII century did not become part of Russia and that's why it was the only region where the so called greco-catholic/uniate Church survived. It was exactly that sect which was supported by Habsburgs who ruled Galizia and were catholics themselves. Especially starting from the end of XIX century when WW1 was appearing on the horizon Habsburgs were trying to win loyalty of Ruthenians and they first started using the word Ukrainians as a name for the nation. Germans were cooperating with Austrians and the aim was to create a new nation antagonistic towards Russia with uniate Church as a religious and ideological base. This is not coincidence that Ukrainian ideologs and leadership of pro-nazi formations during WW2 had strong ties with that church. On the other hand ruthenian orthodox people suspected of pro-Russian views were being persecuted. At the beginnimg of WWI a concentration camps were established for the members of that community in Thalerhoff and Terezin - many of them were executed and after the battle of Gorlice territories under Austrian and German control were ethnicity cleansed. That was first ethnic cleansing in modern Europe and not much is known about this genocide. Maybe it's worth to make video on that matter. After this only staunchly antirussian elements were left and consequences are visible to this day. In presidential elections in 2019 Galizia was the only region where Poroshenko, a supporter of "tough" antirussian policies, won majority. All other regions choose Zelenski - a supporter of detente and cooperation with this country.
As for "holodomor" Galizians use it only for propaganda purposes. They couldn't care less about people who are not "Ukrainian" ( i.e. antirussian) enough.
@@jerzypodgorski8630 it's amazing how western Europeans usually simplify history and issues pertaining to "eastern" Europe mostly to fit their current agenda, hence this infatuation with 'ukraine" as a way of channeling the anti-Russian political sentiments. Kudos to History Hustle for making an effort to go a little deeper, maybe not deep enough, but probably deeper than anyone else on YT. I find his videos very interesting. Average "westerner" doesn't care and usually has very limited knowledge of history including their own.
@@shounen_A Hunger at that time happened also in Russia, Kazakhstan and even outside of USSR - in parts of Poland and Romania on the border with USSR. They were also victims of Stalin's repressions?
Before the war even started there were all kinds of restrictions by the government. I think everyone with a rational mind could know something was so damn wrong. Thank you, Stefan.
Thanks for your reply!
As a Russian-speaking citizen of Ukraine, I can say with confidence that the government does not oppress anyone here
Today some Ukrainian units in Donbas wear insignia of these nazi units.
And yet they're pro Russia
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Dumb comment of the week. Azov battalion fights against the pro-Russian seperatists.
@@thilgu I thought they were pro Russia
@@thilgu I thought he was talking about the pro Russia separatists
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 The answer is one google search away...
Professor, please turn on Polish subtitles.
You will have a lot of Polish subscribers.
I already subscribed :)
And definitely a film about the genocide in Volhynia for my 22-year-old son.
You need to know history and do everything you can to prevent it from repeating itself.
Thank you for your work ❤️
This is the most unbiased and detailed telling of the history of Ukrainians during this period. 👍👍👍👍👍
Very nice to read. Thank you for replying.
My German Grandmother was part of this move back to Germany. I have all the Nazi marked paperwork. And my step Grandfather who adopted my father. His real father was German Soldier that died in the war. My step Grandfather Ivan Storonskyj (I drop the J off my Ukrainian last name) was from Ukraine. And he fought for Germany. I have his paperwork. Hated the Russians. My grandmother met him in Germany after the war at a Displace people camps..
Between September 17 and November 17, 1940, by a mutual agreement between USSR and Germany, 43,641 "ethnic Germans" from the Chernivtsi region were moved to Germany, although the total ethnic German population was only 34,500, and of these some 3,500 did not go to Germany. Upon their arrival in Germany, the Nazi government sent most of non-ethnic Germans to concentration camps.[citation needed] Only some of them were freed after the protests of the Romanian government.
Thanks for sharing.
It was nice by the Romanian government, but what they had to do with this? They wanted justice, or did most of these "almost germans " were really rumenians??
Ващ дед был фашистом и нацистом получаеться
As Jacek Łu already pointed out, Pavlo Shandruk was saved from being handed out to the Soviets by Gen. Władysław Anders, and so were over 7 000 of his men. They were lucky that the British put them in the camp in Rimini, Italy (where the 2nd Polish Corps was fighting) and that they agreed to Shandruk's request to meet with Anders. One might find it weird that Poles at that time would bother to save Ukrainian nationalists, who fought for the Germans, but they experienced Soviet brutality first-hand and the saying 'I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy' fully applied here. According to _Trail of Hope: The Anders Army, An Odyssey Across Three Continents_ by Norman Davies 176 of these Ukrainians were even allowed to join the 2nd Corps, after undergoing some sort of extensive verification (p. 507, at least in the Polish edition, it might be different in English).
Didn't know this. Thanks for sharing, really interesting!
Lol polish saved em .....that hypocrisy
And what about slaughtered 200000 czech and Ukrainians at volyn?
You rather haven't mentioned that1🤣🤣
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Incredibly informative video. A lot of "uncomfortable" truths to digest.
These "uncomfortable" truths have no connection with the current events unfolding in Ukraine. As I mentioned in the video: most Ukrainians fought against the Nazis. At the end only a fraction fought with them.
"Reason connot defeat emotion, an emotion can only be displaced or overcome by a stronger emotion"
- Spinoza
Very very true. I have noticed that in debates on social media.
So so very true
In modern physchology it is called "Cognitive dissonance"
Another interesting quote.
@@thotslayer9914 the flawed feature of human emotion.
Спасибо большое за Ваш труд!💐
Many thanks!💐
Thanks for watching.
спс будешь говорить украинским военным, которые придут в твой дом "освобождать" тебя
Poor Ukrainians trapped between communists and nazis had to make difficult choices.
Indeed.
Sorry but they could fight like Polish in the partisants way, Polish people not colaborate with nazi
@@adaspaker8404 poles did collaborate with nazis as well. alot of ukrainians who collaborated with l nazis didn't have nazi ideology, they just wanted freedom from communism. alot of them later turned against the nazis as well when they realized what the nazis were there for.
It warms my heart to see that Ukrainians and Germans collaborate again, like good old times!
Totally different times.
Between a rock and a hard place!!
So many moving parts they hard to keep track!!
Can’t wait for the test!! So who’s really watching!!
That sums it up perfectly. As always: thanks for watching; thanks for your enthusiasm. I really appreciate it:)
Holodomor was not just in Ukraine. Was also in other parts of the USSR. The difference being that in Ukraine there were considerably more small rural proprietors, farmers, due to the prevailing mega latifund prevailing in Russia, Kazakhstan...
Insolent lies
I wonder why Kazakhstan was effected because they took our weed and exported out of the country poor Kazakhstan couldn’t have any because we had nothing to feed them
Thumbs up. Good episode once again.
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In German concentration camps in occupied Poland during world war II, the commanding officers were Germans, senior officers were typically Austrians and the "capos" guards and brutal executioners were Ukrainians. Bands of Ukrainians murdered tens of thousands of Polish women, children and men in western Poland after the war. Their killing methods of Poles were extremely brutal.
That's an absolutely crucial, and always underestimated (or even not mentioned at all) information that you provide from 10:20 to 10:27. And I would like to add that it didn't start in 1943, as the entire nationalist movement you describe earlier was of Greek-Catholic origin as well, basically. That's a very complicated and complex topic, that gets far too little attention.
I agree, very complex indeed. Thanks for taking the time to watch and reply.
What happened with Greek And Catholic??
@@werqzeleke2815 It's a Ukrainian Orthodox church that recognizes Pope's supremacy. It has nothing to do with the Greeks, it's just a reference to the Orthodox faith. However, they are referred to by some as Catholics, because they see Pope as their supreme leader.
Ukrainian cooperation with Germany was already in place in 1939, when Polish soldiers were murdered.
Didn't read this, but could very well be true.
@@HistoryHustle Please google something about Volyn massacre. There is even Polish movie called Volyn massacre. And it is forbidden in Ukraine by 'democratic' Ukrainian regime.
Soviet famine in 30s happened in Soviet Ukraine meanwhile Ukrainian Nazis were recruited mainly from Galitsia. Do not fall for unobjective anti-Russian political agenda enforced by American propagandists like Timothy Snyder.
1919-1939 West Ukraine was occupied by Polish soldiers...
@@wladjarosz345 There was no Western Ukraine before it was annexed by Stalin from Poland lol. It was simpy Poland prior Austro-Hungarian rule.
@@wladjarosz345 Unimaginable torture and murder will always be nothing but bestiality. Regardless of the political situation.There are a list of 362 torture resulting in the death of that period. Even the Nazis were terrified by this cruelty.
Stalin was Georgian. Even russia suffered under him,
And Georgians too.
This video shows who Stalin was
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Не было никакого искусственного Голодомора на Украине!
Это было следствие Первой мировой, Гражданской войны и неудачной политики! К тому же, страдала не одна "бедная" Украина, а все регионы новообразованного государства!
Такое было на протяжении всей истории и в разных странах, но сейчас по понятным причинам принято винить в этом только СССР и Сталина, причём перевирая факты!
Никто при этом не учитывает, что по мимо "искусственного Голодомора, были и положительные моменты в истории Украинской ССР, ведь она была одной из самых богатых республик в Советском Союзе, никто в большинстве регионов не жил так хорошо, как Украина, но там теперь принято помнить только плохое!
And today, Ukrainian ulta-nationalists and fascists use symbols from the Nazi-allied groups.
My father was from Polish Galicia and was a Jewish child partisan fighting them. It's one thing to discuss these people historically, but quite another to see their symbols carried in the street, or worse by military units like the Azov Battalion.
I've heard of it yes.
No , we don’t use facist symbols , we have a sign, of crossbred N and I , that has a meaning of “Idea of nation” , so ,yes , it looks like one of the facist symbol , but they have different meaning among themselves.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Hillarious , because Zelensky actually represses them
@@Дядя-и9м I appreciate the clarification. But I've also seen people marching with a flag of the SS Galicianer division.
@@ronmaximilian6953 It doesn’t apply to the symbol nohow.
the history of war which was/is never taught! thank you!
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There was a Large Ethnic German population in the Ukraine too , After the Bolshevik Revolution and the formation of the Soviet Union, Black Sea Germans, prior to World War II, were subjected to the forced starvation of man-made famines, the closure of German-language churches, schools, and community organisations, and were required to change their language of instruction from German to Russian and were forced into exile in Siberia and Kazakhstan, many into forced labour camps. Many were deported as a result of the collectivization of all Soviet agricultural land in 1930/1931 by Stalin's first five-year plan. The German farmers were labelled kulaks (rich peasants) by the Communist regime, and those who did not voluntarily agree to give up their land to the Soviet farming collectives were expelled to Siberia and Central Asia. The mass deportation of the Germans was based on social and ethnic criteria, the German Russian settlements probably suffered more than any other communities. About 1.2 percent of the Soviet population was classified as kulak and deported to the Gulags (slave labour camps) .
Yes, very interesting. Thanks for sharing this.
@Mr.Nobody is Somebody capitalism isn't dictatorship isn't it? Apartheid, Nazism, colonisation and elitism didn't come from USSR. So who do you call dictators, clown?
Thank you for this interesting video. I particularly appreciate the conclusion, because the other authors of similar videos don't bother with such "nuances" and leave their audience under the impression that everybody and their mother-in-law fought for the Axis.
In addition to the the war crimes against Poles and Jews, I learned that Bandera enjoyed torturing cats. If true, that alone is enough to disqualify him, in my eyes, as a decent human being. I believe a great nation, such as Ukraine, deserves better heroes, like that Ukrainian woman who was buried alive for hiding a Jewish man in her house. Or the one who was forced to run before a German tank until her heart bursts, because she tried to save Jewish children.
Carry on your excellent work !
You are so right Mariyana. Many Germans had to keep their mouths shut too. Everybody and their mother-in-law in the Axis, did not support or want to fight for the Axis. This notion of the "Inherent flaw of the German character", is too another racist myth. One of my great grandmothers, Elise Maltzahn, geb. Diestel, was born in 1866. She was about 77 years old and freakishly survived Operation Gomorrah. The night she refused to go to her bunker in Hamburg, she later told my grandmother who was in the U.S., "I would rather die than live like that." That night, her bunker was bombed. She was 77 years old and had lived through so much, even before WW l. She died in 1950, 5 years before I was born. What would an old woman who just wants to be left alone, have to do with politics and militarism? She just wanted to be safe and have coffee, some Brötchen and whatever she could find.
As always, thanks for your response, Mariyana.
@@albertmarnell9976 It is a pity you did not see your great grandmother. She must have been an outstanding person.
@@mariyanadobreva8724 Thank you Mariyana. It is a pity. I truly appreciate your response.
@@albertmarnell9976 You are very welcome.
Thanks for this important video. It gives one a historical basis in which to view current events between Ukraine and Russia.
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video on what is obviously a very complex topic. The Ukrainians like the Poles have so often been a victim of their geography.
True, thanks for watching.
True
Also there would be really interesting to her about the amount of the nazi-collobarants saved from the revenge over German-USA-Kanada pathway.
And also about the terrorories, given by the USSR to Ukraine after the war and also about the hunger, which was a failure, but not only in ukranian SSR, but in Russia and Kasachstan too.
Excellent video essay. Its contents are valuable to help me make sense of the Ukrainian point of view of its animosity toward Russia.
Thanks for watching.
Yes, a lot still nazis, never changed.....but this people haits everybody, not only russians.....there's a video of a conference by Azov officers saying if they take all the power, nobody will have peace, and saying that smiling and joking how tbey will kill a lot of people....just psico's, but having a lot of financement now by western countries....only another murder can defend such monsters
If inadequate people lived next to you who have been trying to occupy you for 10 years and the war has been going on since 1917, let me remind you that Ukraine was not part of the USSR, it was occupied by the so-called Red Army
Stefan can you talk about the Belgrade offensive
One day.
Very interesting and insightful. Thanks :)
Let me add that Pavlo Shandruk not exactly "escaped after the war" since he was decorated with Polish Virturi Militarii - highest Polish military medal prize by gen Władysław Anders in 1945. The leader of free Poles decorated Pavlo Shandruk for his bravery in defence of Poland 1939 -because Shandruk was serving in Polish Army as foreigner among few hundred s.c. 'contracted officers' from the armies defeated by the Red Army in early 1920s - Ukrainians, Belorussians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis.. as an element of strategic game against Soviets - so called 'Promethean action'. Since Shandruk dutifully and bravely served against Nazi Germans in 1939 general Anders introduced him to the 'west'.
Lol, irregardless of what they called themselves, the so-called victors were the Red Army who others unwittingly aided in the slaughtered to 10’s of millions of defenseless Germanic Peoples, (civilians & surrendered unarmed soldiers) destroyed their indigenous homeland resulting in the decades long hostile foreign occupation still existing to this day.
@Jacek: Thanks for the additional information.
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A good source
The ‘Dehousing Paper’
Morgenthau Plan
A book titled 📚 “Other Losses”
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You miht find it interesting too:
Polish - Ukrainian Brotherhooh in Arms:
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I don't think there were a few hounded of foreign officers in Polish Armed Forces (more like about a hundred maybe less). Pavlo Shandruk was awarded Vitruti Militari in 1961 but I'm not exactly sure by whom, from 1945 the stewardship of the order was retransfered from Commander- in-chief to the president, so it was either by August Zaleski or by the Council of Three (of which gen. Anders was a member).
Thank you so much for touching on this subject and your excellent narration which no one did. Now I understand why Prez.Putin accuses UKR as Nazis. from Sri Lanka.
Путин делает в Украине тоже самое, что советы делали в Польше, а вы стали жертвой пропаганды кремля. В Украине никто не поддерживает то что было в 1943. Россия убивает мирных жителей, и этому нет оправдания.
It has absolutely nothing to do with current events. It is very good to say something without being in context.
@@censord6960 Where did you get this from? It has a direct bearing on this conflict.
@@valeritemirof5031 Stupid cynical propaganda narrative. Russia attacks another country and says that there are Nazis there. Do I really need to explain why this is complete bullshit?
@@censord6960 Truth hurts much?
Professor, a really nice lecture. It brings into focus the feelings of the average Ukrainian citizen; truely, another lost opportunity for the Germans.
A little difficult grammar , but correct. I'll try to keep it more simple in the future.
@@wernervoss6357 And extermination, the nazis just hated slavs, some would be left as slaves, but many would be killed to "leave room" for the germans
@@wernervoss6357 Apparently the Germans view of Ukrainians is analog. Not digital. Indeed complex.
@@wernervoss6357 Their "intenions" have not effect on whether it is a "lost opportunity." When I was a child I played baseball...there were many times I "intentioned" to catch a pop-up ball...neverless, because I missed the ball, it was a" missed opportunity". This is a logic flaw.
Not true. There were plenty of Ukrainian communists/bolsheviks. Its ironic how so many people are now all for historical revisionism which was Stalinesque.
@History hussle thank you for making these videos about colaboration , as its a verry complex question .simular to beeing a resitance fighter.
It gives food for thought , as not every thing is as clear cut as people think. they ukrain , georgians baltic states all had a bone to pick with the USSR . for most the germans where liberators well that was untilll they would be treated worse than the sovjets did. .
For example you have a ukrainian volunteer joining the germans to liberate the country from the russians. you might call it a resistance fighter. while after the germans starting to implement their racial laws treating the local population as bad and worse as the sovjets did . you might call the same person a collaberator.
And for resistance fighters for exmple in the netherlands they often would be called terrorist , and NSB collaborators .
its a different situation and sircomsance but you get the idea.
The words of colboration and colaborator is complex . as it has many levels .
Thanks for watching and taking the time to write a comment. Indeed, in this area the word 'collaboration' is complex and has many levels. In the Netherlands I think it was more clear cut, but even then there were many grey areas.
@@HistoryHustle Correct, plus the human nature of survival . Even in concentration kamps and durchgangs lagers , there was colaborations between the prisoners and guards.
My great grandfather was imprisoned in kamp amersfoort and wrote a little booklet on his experiances , and there where a lot of prisoners that acted like kamp police for some extra rations or better cloths. They usualy where more brutal than the actual kampgaurds .
@Marcus Franconium ...... Yes you Absolutely 💯 correct. UNFORTUNATELY the TRUE DEMONS 😈 never pay !!! Governments took all the scientific and engineering individuals to help with their agendas!!!!
@@marcusfranconium3392oboration in Ukraine and in Netherland not the same. Colloboration in Ukraine was ukranazi .The killed children and old people.