Is the Entry Level A. Lange & Söhne Worth £13,100? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- It seems bonkers to use the term ‘entry level’ in the same sentence as ‘£13,100’, but yet, here it is: the A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia Thin is the brand’s entry level watch, and it costs a whopping £13,100. But is it worth it?
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When I graduated college my parents bought me an A. Lange & Sohne 1815 (235.032). My dad is a rolex guy and sold his pepsi to help pay for this for me. I cried when I got the watch and I wear it ever single day. When I did my interview for medical school the person interviewing me was also wearing an A. Lange & Sohne. We did not talk about anything other than watches during that interview and I was accepted into the program. I wear the watch everywhere except when working out when I swap for a Garmin Fenix 7X
Casual nepotism..
Roles and patek is a safe bet ... but they priced a lange & soon very high ......which is quite rare for a German watchmaker
Prowd owner of a Lange 1 Moonphase owner here!
Wow, the moment at 4:33 is breathtaking - the width of each of the petals in the hand-engraved balance cock is ~0.2mm. There are around 30 little ridges in each of the petals. Each ridge is 6 micrometers wide.
To put that into perspective, that's about the size of a single red blood cell. Or two bacteria wide.
To say that the level of detail is absolutely exquisite in these watches is a vast understatement :')
I am proud to say that I am a Saxonia Thin owner.
Gotta spend the money somehow, that's all there is
James Wong you’re a lucky man with taste👍🏼
But is it accurate?
Your wearing a year's worth of my salary on your wrist lol! Beautiful watch you should be very proud of your little masterpiece. ✌️😎👍
James Wong , you lucky man... enjoy!
I'll never be able to afford such a timepiece in my life. But it makes me proud that many people appriciate that craftsmanship done in the city of Glashütte 30km near me so much. Great video!
#Neversaynever
not with that attitude. also 13k is not even that much tbh
@@r3dbullbbs Keep your mouth shut. You don't know him and don't know his circumstances. Don't judge.
simplyvl Don’t be a dick he was giving him encouragement
One day you will own such a watch !
As always... Awesome video... Your videos are oddly satisfying... The video, the script, narration... Everything...
They are not oddly satisfying. They ARE satisfying.
@@Rr_9991 They never reply in the comment section, though. Makes me wonder if they even read the comments.
Agreed! Often I'm multitasking while a wristwatch video plays in the background, but Watchfinder & Co. videos draw me in from start to finish. (The macros of the finishing of this watch in particular are mesmerizing.) Totally satisfying. 👍
Everything about his videos are amazing!
Being satisfied by design and craftsmanship is in no way odd
"NOTHING (except inflation) will ever stop £13,100 being a lot of money for a watch" That surprisingly made me laugh XD
DrKlaja he got that backwards. Inflation would make £13,000 seem like NOT a lot of money as it’s value would decrease. DEFLATION would make 13k seem like a lot of money!
LongTermCap he got it right actually. Hence, the “except” ;)
DrKlaja you’re absolutely right!! My apologies to you and watchfinder.
@@amirjon I'm impressed with how professionally you accepted the fact you were wrong, I wish there were more people like you around youtube :/
or a large price increase in 2021 :(
That is one of the most beautiful watch faces I have ever seen - It's pure dedication to telling the time and nothing else is really what a watch should be all about, and this one does it with elegance and simplicity. Worth every cent and I would buy it if I had the money!
I had it in my hand today , I can’t even explain how well done it is , the finish , the weight , it is the watch I would wear every single day
A. Lange & Söhne is a great brand. I really appreciate that they finish EVERY watch to the same level. There is no 'poor man's Lange' out there. They may not hold the value as some Patek's do but you always have to decide for what reason you buy a watch like this. And I would do it for honoring the craftmanship and appreciation to watchmaking. And maybe a little because of national pride ;-)
Their marketing department likes to spin it that way, but it's not entirely true. For example, some of their watches have had the same movements but on the cheaper model they would not expose the balance wheels so they can save costs on finishing, i.e. not finish it to the same standard as the more expensive model.
German brand?
The difference is, as a Patek owner you think about the investment aspect. When you buy an A lange you’ll most likely never sell it because you’re buying it out of the appreciation of pure watchmaking genius
I had two lange and two pateks, I sold my two Pateks.
Lange & Sohne is my dream watch...and honesty, i don't know why. Just simple. They are beautiful.
Easily my favorite manufacturer!
The pictures on your profile say something different
Διρhα I can like other brands, Rolex is great too!
@@magicmike7066 Sure I just thought that maybe the brand that you choose to display on your profile would be your favorite
Lmfao
@@FacitOmniaVoluntas. Favourite does not mean able to afford
Lange’s pieces represent some of the best value in the luxury segment for what you get. People who say it isn’t worth it are probably the same ones who justify the retail price of a new Submariner, let alone one from the grey market.
I am writing from the future... The next two years are going to be a hell of a ride, but although many will fall most of us will get through it.
I just found an AD with a Saxonia Thin in stock, and next week it is finally happening... Good things come to those who wait
White or rose?
I think is unbelievably beautiful. Nobody matches Lange in beauty and quality.
Even under high magnification all the parts look so perfect and amazingly detailed!
Precision, craftsmanship, excellence, provenance, simplicity and elegance, all in one package. Bravo, gentlemen!
After making a video about the iwatch, thanks for making the next one about A. Lange & Söhne. Pallet cleansed.
I want one so much, and I can nearly afford the Tudor I've been saving for for two years. I don't think my wife would understand if I spent two more years saving for a watch, especially if you could see the old Toyota I drive
Get an Omega Seamaster or Speedmaster instead of the Tudor. Or, save little bit more and get a Rolex! Seriously, at least it will hold value when you pass it to the next generation.
@@burairallawati1099 this. Listen to this man. And you will easiiily lov we to grow the omega or rolex & ppl will notice it more than this 13.000 pounds of . .. uncatchy
maome kat You're missing the whole point of this video. The reason people wear A. Lange & Sohne is because of the unmatched quality of the watch, not for the attention.
@@JPS-sc1zn fortunately & thankfully I not only understand the video but also appreciate craft manship. Hover the price tag here is objectively not for the craftsmanship but for the name... if you or anyone says otherwise they are genuinely mistaken or being sly. Even the video addresses this point. A rolex or omega watch will hold its value much better than this & make better hand me downs sadly even though this watch is good but not price tag worthy. It does not have limited number of watches built. It does not have an eye catchy design like rolex or patek. It is overpriced and for rich people who can buy 400, 000$ cars. Not for the person who saves for 4 years to appreciate good craftsmanship or uniqueness. Thankyou
Burair Al Lawati no, he should buy the Tudor since it is what he wants. Who cares what the price is when he hands it down... If you want to sell your watch in 6 months then you should care, but if you are buying watches for retained $$ you are missing the point.
The script writer was as skilled as the watch maker. Bravo.
I’d like to think it’s sort of a “bargain” compare to a PP. Still can’t afford the “bargain” tho 😂
Saw one in the flesh a dew days ago and it's stunning. As a Calatrava owner I can say this Lange blows the spots off the Patek..
Every age has it's true artisans. FM Acoustics electronics, Tidal loudspeakers, Roja fragrances, Claxton guitars, George Smith furniture, Purdy firearms, AL&S's rival, Patek Philippe...and A. Lange and Sohne, of course. I have been following A. Lange & Sohne for, at least, 15 years and admired their beautiful and exquisite creations. They are worth every cent. They represent the very finest of the great German culture. Great video.
You named some of the things that in a just world everyone should be able to appreciate and that, in a perfect world, everyone should be able to own.
I don’t know how many times I have to say this but these are absolutely the best watch videos available! Thank you so much for the hours of entertainment and education
A Lange & Söhne are worth every penny, the most beautifully engineered and hand crafted watch on the market for this price range ✋
Abdul Rahman Abdel Razek yes I'd say to a degree it's even better than a PP
@@rayleeaustralia I would dare say, it is.
Abdul Rahman Abdel Razek Grand Seiko?
Definitely up there also with JLC, but i think Lange have a better feel to them.
Lange is indeed a fantastic watchmaker and no, there is nothing that compares value-wise.
The craftsmanship and sheer attention to every single detail makes any A. Lange & Sohne worth every cent! Gorgeous time pieces!
WOW, both to the watches AND to your channel. Going past 200K makes me think you will be the first watch channel to reach 1M subs, and it would be well deserved. Such constant quality and showing actual watches instead of a face talking about a watch held 3 feet away from a camera!!
I hope to one day reach at least half the quality you deliver in your videos, minus the highest end watches you have access to.
Finding value in watches is ungrateful if we look at functions and performance alone, but this watch shows there is much more to watches than just accuracy and practicality, A LOT MORE.
Thank you for yet another great video 😊👍
By far the best watch videos on the web: beautifully scripted, attention holding and insightful.
Worth every penny. In a world of Pateks ALS stand apart
To me personally, Lange is better than Patek Philippe.
James Wong In terms of finishing and innovation. 100% agree!
Lange is #1 as far as im concerned. Anyone saying the base Saxonia has nothing to offer clearing hasn't done their research.
I do like it. But I don't know if its really worth THAT much. Since worth is relative, I wonder what it costs to produce.
Finishing??? Really? Take a look at the engraving text on the bridge at 4:19. And you said A. Lange & Söhne have better finishing than PP? LMAO.
There is so little perfection in this world. How can you not love it when you do finally come across such refinement?
If I had £13k to spend on a watch/watches I can say quote confidently that I would definitely have the Saxonia
I saw it for the first time a couple of days ago and I would say yes, without doubt, it is worth its asking price. It is the most beautifully designed and finished time only dress watch on the market with a fit that out classes anything Patek and Vacheron have to offer at the moment.
Id rather have a JLC, the watch is definitely handsome but i like seconds on my mechanical watches.
I bought the JLC ultra thin moon although it's not in the same league as ALS, I'd rather a used PP calatrava at 13k though
@@londonsfynest the ultra thin moon is my dream watch. How are you liking it so far?
A Lange & Sohne doesn’t need sponsorship or advertising. It’s for the people who want to enjoy horology and craftsmanship without being flashy. It’s all about your feelings not others. Buy Rolex if you want to stand out and feel important
Isn’t an A. Lange & Sohne always build twice? As in, put together, let it run, take it apart, check everything, put it back together.
If I had $30K+ to spend the 1815 chrono ALS is a steal on the secondary market for the beauty front and back I would enjoy it everyday for the rest of my life . If you’re looking for a high level finished piece of art the Saxonia or VC Patrimony are great options for half the price. Would love one of these in addition to a Rolex or Omega sports watch. You can’t be upset with a fan of watchmaking wanting something made to the highest level or close to enjoy. At this price point there’s not much to choose from with that type of finishing. As much as I admire Grand Seiko it’s aesthetics and movement just don’t move my soul to each his own
It's not a watch. It is a piece of jewelry that tells time.
I have a Lange 1 bought from Watchfinder and it’s a true Head Turner, it makes me feel special every time I put it on.👍⌚️
The second hand is one thing that immediately tells a person if a watch is working. Without a second-hand one would have to stare at the watch for a few minutes to be sure it is working.
I will never be able to afford such a work of art, but that does not stop me being glad there are people who can produce this level of work and people who appreciate such work.
Never say never.
Amazing video quality as usual. I was a bit surprised by so much time dedicated to the price. The price on every mechanical watch is off-putting to the average Joe. But if you are into high end watches you're not going to be too surprised by the price. An A. Lange for $15,000 (USD) seems like a bargain to most. I'm seriously considering this watch. Thanks for this and other very high quality videos as always.
That shot at 2:02 with the shadow of a hand playing on the index marker... hat's off! :)
Is it me or I need to see something moving on the dial :)
Acually both the hands move, no very fast though.
@@afarhan21 yeay but for my taste I need somehing moving. My timepiece is a nomos club with the small second :)
Same,I like a bit of action be it a seconds of foudroyante
I mean, why buy a watch for its movement when you can't see it in action at all unless its off your wrist?
@@adityamukherjee9462 we should be happy that there's a display caseback 😂 rolex owners have a solid one sadly, there are very few skeletonized or watches designed to show off the movement from the dial side done tastefully
I've never quite thought of it in that way when considering high end luxury watches - that you are literally paying to keep those hand made skills alive in this modern digital "made by robots" world we live in. When you pt it like that, it is far easier to understand the price, even though yes, it will always be out of reach of most of us.
Quality video,again. I believe the Vacheron Constatin "56" is slightly cheaper than the A.Lange & Sohne , and has a Holy Trinity association. How about comparing these two watches?
Lange is by far my favorite horology house.
I just sprung for one in white gold as I was looking for an understated dresser.
"Each part is crafted by hand" is a very misleading statement. Obviously every part is churned out by cnc mills and lathes unlike romantic watchmaking imagevids sometimes make you believe . The finish is what's done by hand. Crafting everything by hand would be george daniels level
digggert the detailing may Indeed be done by hands and the parts are done by CNC milling.
@@nicholasjoseph9062 I honestly thought that watches at this level were made by jeweller's saw and file. Are they really CNC machined before assembly and finishing?
@@Stigstigster yes
Stigstigster Lange also assembles every watch twice
You are so right...the incabloc is just bought in..; to name only one component....
I simply must have an A. Lange & Sohne watch someday. Just exquisite craftsmanship and finishing.
Love my Lange 1815 38.5mm in rose gold. Its simply amazing!
Man that chronograph is absolutely gorgeous! Love love love the blue
My grail dress watch! Absolute minimalist perfection !! 😍😍😍
Yes !!!! More from A.Lange & Söhne
Although it would be incredible to have my family name on a watch, the entry level commitment is hard to swallow.
So out of my League, price wise... not style wise. However, it is so refreshing to witness the absolute pinnacle of a craftsman’s strive towards “Attention to Detail”. Thanks for the video. I love the watch.
I would have liked to see a little more attention towards the leather strap’s quality.
A Lange ...the rich man's Glashütte Original.
As with any product..the price is what you pay and the value is what you get.
Worth every penny in my opinion...
I'm a fan of ALS, so the price tag didn't come as a surprise to me. It does seem reasonably priced based on the whole of what they offer- though, I can't afford one..... yet.... maybe ever. I think they're my favorite watchmaker.
I really love the 1815 chronograph Boutique Edition. It is beautiful and amazing.
Simply amazing craftmanship... I love the understated elegance of these pieces as it communicates true class. Bravo! Many times, I think the folks who appreciate this level of workmanship are those who work with their hands, such as dentists, surgeons, machinists, and inventors.
Growing up in the electrical business, I learned early on the greatness of exceptional craftsmanship. When visiting friends in Switzerland (where they built great stuff), I'd spend time in his cellar just admiring the house wiring, a beautiful joy to behold. Bottom line: The Germans and Swiss are capable of producing the finest things on Earth! Yes, these watches are worth every penny, that is if you have that much available to spend! Hats off to Lange!
Agreed! One can easily live in a house made of clad styrofoam and sheet rock, with plastic pipes and twist connect wiring. At 30 years though, the house goes into steep functional and market value decline. I’d rather spend more heavily on a brick house with lath and plaster walls and copper piping so that my son could happily live there another 50 years. So it is with a fine watch.
I tried this watch on in yellow gold at Wempe and fell in love. It is such a minimalist gem, I almost think I love it more than the Lange 1 Moonphase, even tho it's a fraction of the cost. A pure watch.
Watch only comes in Rose and White gold
For that amount of money, I can get 3 high end watches, especially if I buy them from the grey market. I can get Cartier Tank XL, Zenith El Primero 410 and Omega Speedmaster (Moonwatch)!
They are not high end by any means
I want that 1815 chronograph. The Saxonia is worth the price. One would have to look around at what else one could get for 13k pounds and see if something else more fits into your taste. In terms of a time only dress watch, I can't think of anything better for the price.
It sure does make JLC look like excellent value.
All A Lange watches are worth their price tag😍
Hard to justify the Saxonia imo when pre owned you can get an 1815 for the same money. A little more will get you a Lange 1 too (pre owned). Saxonia still a hell of a watch tho, no doubt.
Fantastic brand in my humble opinion the best but too expensive for my humble pocket. I have settled for Grand Seiko which is not sludge although not at the same level as Lange.
A. Lange & Söhne is the definition of business at the front, party at the back
It absolutly does worth 13 k price tag
That 1815 is my grail. Thinner than the dato and that pulsation dial is what I'd definitely want.
The only reason I would argue the price is too high, is because I can't afford it. It's beautiful, and I am happy to learn we live in a world where the efforts of craftspeople are so highly coveted, and still rewarded. Wonderful close-ups and video, thank you for the upload.
For that price and feature set, I'd rather get a Glashutte Original. My dad actually bought a Glashutte Original Panomatic Reserve in a trip to Austria. Looks very similar to it's A. Lange & Sohne Lange 1 counterpart for virtually the same price as the Saxonia.
I‘m happy and proud to own one too. Mine has the copper blue dial, absolutely out of this world.
ALS watches are so well made. Every single one of them as the finest attention to detail.
If a rolex sub is 6 grand then yes this masterpiece is worth twice as much. I love the simplicity which imho defines elegence. Doesnt scream look at me but the owner would feel, i would, that there is a living thing on your wrist and that if you die, it dies too...
I'd rather have one of these than a Patek Calatrava any day. Patek does have different levels of finish for their various watch lines. This isn't the ALS watch I'd buy though. There are watches in that price range I'd rather own where I wouldn't feel like I was settling for something just because it was easier to afford.
Love the portfolio, the camera was nice but I love the new format 👌
Between Patek and A. Lange money wasn’t an issue. I wanted the best chronograph. It was an easy decision, I bought the Dato Up/Dn.
I bought an 1815 because of the ALS work ethic of putting the same level of workmanship into every piece. I prefer the 1815 over the Saxonia simply because of the numerals on the 1815 dial. I love that the Saxonia deletes the seconds hand.
Absolutely worth it. I just wish you can see more of the movement from the back
This Watch is more beautiful than most Rolex.
No way ! It's very well made but its too simple boring.
Myron lol, no
More beautiful than all Rolex lol.
They are totally not in the same category.
A. Lange take it to an altogether different level. I’d pay them the £35 000 and more without hesitation!
It's fairly easy to justify the price of such craftsmanship when it comes to timepieces like this. Imagine walking around with what is essentially a Mastercrafted work of art on your wrist. Like an oil painting on canvas. It's truly a sight to behold. When thought of in a manner like this, only then can you justify the asking price. It's much more than "just a watch".
I am proud to be the owner grand saxonia automatik for the past 9 years , just had complete service done in the past 2 months, love wearing my timepiece.
Please say "Eighteen Fifteen" as this product family is dedicated to the founder A.F. Lange, who was born in 1815. Other than that your analysis is brilliant and spot on!
I'm a watch fanatic 4 over 50 years. Watch prices are gone completely raving ridiculous mad. Is it worth it? Of course not. One is paying these ridicu;ous prices, why, the answer is simple! Years ago, the only watch one could buy, was a mec`a mechanical one. In that period, a Patek was, way back late sixtees under € 4000,--. A Omega constellation far under a 1000,--. If one compares the average wage then and now, someone who had a monthly salary 40 years ago, 2000 dollar per month, would nowadays earn 15000 to 20000 dollar or Euro per month, if it was in ratio to watch prices. But as most people today, buy a watch, which only needs a battery once every 2 years, or not even that, the watch company's who manufacture calibers themselves, have to build up prices, to atract those who can afford these. If one looks at the gold price, that indeed is high, and then take a look how much more one has to pay for an gold version, there's also a ridiculous difference. Is this watch worth it, no! It's what people seem wiling to pay.
A watch with one of the most refined designs ever and built to the highest level of craftsmanship. In a world where you can buy several of those instead of a Nautilus, it absolutely is worth the price.
This piece offers a wonderful "two finger salute" to the likes of Patek. I think this is doubly the case on the grey market where this piece sits at closer to 9500-10K Pounds. Tough to argue against it in that sphere where there is VERY little that approaches it qualitatively for similar money. We are, after all, talking about a price that is almost HALF of a basic Calatrava and on monetary par with a lot what I think are lesser offerings from the likes of JLC, Omega, Rolex, Blancpain, or Breguet. If they ever make this in yellow gold, it could present a serious danger to my bank account.
The answer is a resounding NO
It is worth - that craftmanship is something people should support by buying those amazings products.
It’s not worth £13,100 to me but I can easily see why it would be, to someone. If I had the disposable income to afford one, I’d buy an A. Lange & Söhne before a Patek.
I absolutely understand why and how some people spend 42.000 pounds on an A. Lange & Söhne. But I don't see the spending of 13.000 pound on something like the Saxonian thin. For that money, you can buy a new omgea constellation, some cool, Value-increasing (and gorgeous looking) art and still have enough money to buy a great pre-owned Mercedes C class. All of these things alone are imo worth more than the Saxonian thin (that coming from an absolute watch lover), yet alone all combined...
Surely, the price may have its justification - but I don't see a justification for spending that money on it.
I don't know, as the most expensive watch I own is worth only 300$ :)
Just rewatched this a year later and have to say yes. If in fact you can see the movement. Then it's clear it's worth it.
Lange is my favourite! Even though l cant afford a beautiful watch l understand why they are so expensive, and l love them!
I think I’d rather get a JLC at that pricepoint.
I think I'd rather buy a pair of Recaro's and supercharge my M3 at that price point.
@@Namesi your m3 wont run for 100 years tho.. especially with an aftermarket sc
you can get a couple of nice JLC. This watch is nothing special at all in any aspect.
@jacopo
That would be determined by the maintenance kept on the car, which if done regularly could easily last 100 years. Also, given the cost and intervals of service for each, financially it's probably a wash.
Guarantee I would have more fun in that period of time too ;)
Either way, Richemont gets your money.
In my valuable opinion, I do see the amount of workmanship put into the watch; but at the same time can’t help but to think that even with that level of detail is £13100 justifiable. I love A.Lange Sohne but I think it’s far too much; perhaps I’d pay £6000 at most.
True the price is hefty but by today's standard if you look at what watches £6000 can get and flip them over, they look like unpolished rocks compared to this thing, presuming the manufacturers aren't too ashamed to show the movement.
Most companies don’t do hand finishing at all. At $6000, maybe a JLC would have some hand finishing. But nothing close to Lange level.
"Einfachkeit ist das Resultat der Reife" (Friedrich Schiller)
No doubt the Saxonia thin is a great watch. Only thing is the case shape - those lugs look like a designer’s afterthought, “oops, I forgot the lugs, here they are, just so that straps can be attached.” Visually it throws off the balance with the rest of the case, nor is it have any decorative value. If I pay this much for a 3-handed (2 in this case), I’d demand a design based on more sophisticated understanding of the word “simplicity” - ref 5196.
This is art at its finest. Priced like many fine works of art, it is beyond my ability to purchase. I do enjoy looking at the beauty before us, however.
For that kind of money they should include a battery. It's hard to remember to wind. The lack of a tachymeter and rotating bezel is also a deal breaker.