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Brilliant as usual. Keep 'em coming. Plus, I'm really enjoying your newsletter. Thankyou.
Good to know mate 😊
amazing content as always! With respect to all other poker instructors, you are my favorite, I love your teaching skills and the way you can explain complex poker topics. You are the first instructor who does not want to hold back any poker information which is something new to me and I appreciate it.
One question tho, when you do range research, do you separately create filters for different profiles based on vpip / pfr/ agr/wwsf ?
to be clear lets say that I really wanna learn to exploit two player types
profile 1: who has vpip between 60 and 80 vpip low pfr below 15, but low river aggression% and likely passive by the river, assuming low wwsf
profile 2: vpip 40-59 , high pfr around 25-35, high agression, high wwsf
i feel that if i dont do range research for different profiles, i may get wrong data that I then try to apply vs every rec. which i think is wrong
i hope you get what i am trying to get out of this
Thanks a lot for the compliments and feedback mate! 🧡💛
Yeah I study recs based on VPIP and regs based on WWSF. I like to use easy parameters that I can also use in-game to identify the players. If you get too specific with the parameters they will be less useful when you're actually playing.
Recs I study 4 groups - 0-30 VPIP, 30-40, 40-50 and 50+
Regs I study 3 groups - WWSF < 47, 47-50 and 50+
@@saulocostapoker How would you split regs in MTTs where there’s a big variance in WWSF because some regs play more 8-max and play more multi-way pots while regs who start games or play more 6-max play less multi-way pots?
Hi there really nice stuff. Is this zone 200? 2024? tables seem preety nice!.
Hi Saulo, I absolutely love your content. I know that you are an online player but I would love to watch a video about how you would adapt your strategies that you present in your videos to live cash game. What are the differences and do you play different ranges?
I dont know a live player with this quality content.
Is it possible to get previous newsletter lessons? Thanks
Absolutely! They are all available in the signup page, just gotta scroll down a little
Huge value. Thank you!
Great format!!!!
This is so valuable, thank you
Thanks for all your great content
i love your videos Saulo, usually i can't wait for the next one! :) Thank you
I am wondering if these exploits mentioned in the video are applicable for live games as well? Could i learn these exploits and implement it vs live recs? or in live game recs play differently and you wouldn't suggest these exploites against them.
I would be shocked if there were big differences. The exploits against recs are basically a function of them playing too wide preflop. The only way it wouldn't work is if they are tight pre. But someone tight pre is unlikely to be a rec.
The few times I played live cash I played just the same I play online. Not much experience with that though, played for a few weeks in Vegas only (I dont like grinding live much).
I did however coach a live high stakes reg from Vegas where I taught him all these exploits and he is crushing. That's the most relevant evidence I have that the exploits work in live games
Thanks for the great content!
Would you ever consider playing on stream saulo something like HCL?
If I ever got invited I would consider it for sure. Not something I'm aiming for tho, I'm busy as fuck as it is 😁
Hi Saulo! 18:13 what do u mean "looking to raise"? Your plan is raise vs probe any turn..?
Hello, what you teach, do you think it works in other rooms or is this video focused directly on bodog?
Hey mate. It works in any platform
Hey Saulo, can you please elaborate on your thought process of check-bet-bet with the 97s at the 12:00 min mark? Thanks!
Not sure I can add much to what I've already said in the video. Anything in particular you're still in doubt about?
Hello Saulo, great video again.
I heard you mention it is easy to build a player database, which software application accomplish this the best according to your experience?
Hand2Note for sure. There are plenty of videos in my channel using it, like this one: th-cam.com/video/qN7rSWXcZ8s/w-d-xo.html
Link in the description for 10% off first purchase
Hey Saulo, very cool video. I'm having some doubts in 3bet pots oop vs recs lately, so it was nice to see your approach in the 97s hand. What would you do otf when you've a little bit more equity, though? Like overcards + bdfd (ie QJs on 952r) or weak gutshot (ie JT on Q85), hands that usually don't want to check-fold. Would you prefer to go for the c-bet route in these spots?
Thank you in advance!
With a bit more equity its fine either way I think
Thx Saulo, great value like always (I don't mean your stacks :)). Which limit did you play here?
200nl
what HUD are you using here?
Hi Saulo! Great content. I have a question around spotting recreational players online: what gives them away? HUD statistics?
HUD statistics are good indicators, like VPIP above 30. But you can also use other things. I use betsizings a lot for example. 3x open size is the most common size used by recs, while regulars almost don`t use it. Half pot postflop is a significant tell too. And broken stacks is a classical one as well.
Hey saulo, I found your content very very helpful and it has improved my game a lot at microstakes zoom and understanding of population tendencies hahaha. I was just wondering, is it a bad idea to triple barrel vs recs generally? That’s the one line I’m most hesitant to bluff a rec. Thanks so much.
Awesome Jonathan, great to hear!
It's not a bad idea. In fact I show the math for bluffing in this exact line in this post of my newsletter saulocosta.poker/9-2-easy-exploits-to-improve-your-winrate-instantly/ check it out
Cool vid, thanks for the great content!
You 3b A6s COvHJ vs a rec player, is this standard for you? My justification for usually folding this pre, is that they will call way too many better offsuit aces. Also, would you do this on a MSNL non-anon table?
The hand does not stop preflop and you are able to make more decisions postflop. As fishes tend to reveal the strength of their hand at some point, you can adapt and fold, bluff, or valuebet more in the appropriate situations.
But for this to work you need to know what signs to look out for. If you do not recognise their patterns and make mistakes yourself because of that, then you probably can't raise this hand
I subscribed to the newsletter but I cant acces the older ones, how do I get them? Something want to share?
Hey mate, they are available in the signup page. Just gotta scroll down a little
@@saulocostapoker thank you endboss
Which limit do you play and how many hands overall for this statistics overall?
I was playing 200nl in this video. The statistics displayed are from my 250 million hands database
18:32 how did you know his hand despite he folded? Was it a showtime holdem feature that you play?
Hi saulo thanks for doing what you do.
1:26 do you consider doing a bigger rol size with KQs? 4bb seems pretty small for that hand
4bb is my std in that spot. Could go bigger with JJ+, AK
How do you know the hands when they don't see a showdown?
Superuser account 😎
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Not really, jk. Bodog makes hand histories with holecards revealed 24h later. I just put them in the video in post-production. Thought it would be nice for you guys to see what people had
Wow that sucks that they do that... Do all sires show folded whole cards ?
@@TedJones-ye1udI've never heard of anything like that so it should be just them and I agree it's terrible
@@dmtc6913this site is anonymous so you don’t know who the hand was against, so knowing their cards is pretty irrelevant, expect from learning general pool tendencies
They do it to prevent collusion since the site's completely anonymous and you don't know who you're playing against...could be a whole team working against you.
Hey man,where can i find population tendencies stats to study?Great video btw.
Hey mate. There is nothing of the sort available in the internet. Only way currently is to do your own research
@@saulocostapoker have u made a video on the subject that can maybe help?Thanks a lot for the reply.
Sooooo lovely contents❤ Thank you so much Saulo!
I'm glad you enjoyed it mate ❤️
On the first hand on J85r why do you say it's for sure a rec after the b50 cbet? That's by far the most used size in the sim (on gtowiz) for this spot.
Copying from a reply to another viewer with the same question:
Hey, its not really about whether that sizing is good or not in theory. It's just an application of Bayes theorem. Regs don't use half pot cbets almost ever, while its the highest frequently used size by recs. So its an evidence that increases likelyhood of the player being a rec.
We use bayes theorem all the time. For instance, if you see a broken stack you will typically assume its a rec. That's because recs have a broken stack very often, while regs almost never. Recs will have a 100bb or higher stack plenty of times, and regs will sometimes have a broken stack, but when the stack goes below 100bb you can assing high probability of the player being a rec.
It's the same idea for any other evidence you see at the tables. If there is a big difference in the chance of seeing something happen between the 2 profiles, then once you see the evidence the probability of the profile of the player skews towards the profile that has the highest probability of displaying the behaviour observed.
I show the math for it in this video for the case of CO cold calls. An unknown cold calling from CO will be a rec 73% of the time: th-cam.com/video/ukb4jIFk0cE/w-d-xo.html
Hi, really appreciate your content.
I have some question on the AK hand (21:14). Why you 5-bet jam that hand. Assuming his range is very strong, so you wont get much fold equity and you dont have a lot of raw equity when called too. where is the EV coming from that play ?
I still get some, like 25% fold equity and still have equity against calling range. But yeah its pretty close, I can find a fold against a fish I have more info. In these anonymous games tho, so much wild shit that I don't allow myself to make too big deviations
Lol do you dub over the PokerStars bet/check sounds
Yes. I play with sounds off on Bodog as they're terrible 😁 and I think having the sounds makes the video better
@@saulocostapokerit really makes it better, you are the true goat
Whats that betting software with all the sizes?
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Obrigado pelo conteúdo Saulo, sempre acompanhando o canal. Vc tem alguma plataforma de ensino?
Por enquanto so os videos aqui no TH-cam mesmo. Tenho um time de staking tambem onde dou aulas, mas as inscricoes estao fechadas no momento
@@saulocostapokershow amigo, quem sabe no futuro me candidato a uma vaga, estou batalhando pra me profissionalizar!!
Pure gold, hope I found this channel earlier.
The Aj vs K3s Btn vs co 3bet pot I am surprised you went for the bluff on the turn and for biggish size . You would bluff 100% strong ace highs vs fish on a board pairing turn ? What is the reason for that as your hand imo has enough showdown value to check back and hero call rivers
I think you can go either way. This hand is a pure bet in theory gyazo.com/424d6f30d84071396f1463bfa38ca026 and with the added fold equity against the fish the EV of betting goes up. But the EV of checking goes up as well due to their river overbluff. I think betting with a diamond to shove diamond rivers and checking without a diamond is a pretty good heuristic
@@saulocostapoker thanks for the screen dude I guess for one part AJ probably doesnt have as much showdown value because its a 3bet pot and opponent has called the flop so fish has A high at least or some sort of gutshot , KQ floating oop still wouldnt happen frequently so maybe AJ is going for bluff/deny equity in order to levrage equity realisation vs strong opponent . I have Just subscribed to gto wizard and I have realised solver goes for some plays that I would call mergy either in value or bluff in spots where I would expect more polarity probably to make opponents indifferent . Like here to be honest I am suprised solver almost never bluffs 98s and only bluffs low Axs low freq zwhile it will be around 50% of Aks . I would have likely done the opposite and bet with a more polar range
Thank you! Love your videos :)
What is that overlay you have on top of the screen showing pot odds, bluff equity, etc…
I explain it at 15:24
What stakes are you playing?
15:09 w AQs
why do you think cold calling is superior to 4betting?
i kinda view the fish cold call on bttn as being potentially to wide/condensed, so then i like to just 4b/fold this combo to pick up any dead money in middle, and have good equity vs the bttn calling range
interesting to see the cold call, and am interested if you can elaborate on this
thanks!
I don't think you can find a good cold 4bet sizing there. There is too much in the middle and 2 fishes in the pot, so to have any kind of relevant fold equity you would have to 4bet to 40 blinds or something, which is obviously not good. So it feels to me I just want to take a good hand to a medium pot against 2 fish instead of putting 30+ blinds in and commiting myself to calling all in shoves
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tbf, we are 173bb eff, so we arent committed to calling it off
there is also 25.5bb in middle, so 40bb 4b isnt too bad of a trade off, and think you prob do get some FE preflop
with the bigger raises and 3b's, it does lower the eff spr from a typical spot. idk, i can kinda see where you're coming from, just calling and realizing equity vs mult fish. but do think 4bing is still a reasonable option.
possible because they are fish, that the postflop visibility they may offer could outweigh playing 4b/f tho, you could be right
8:03 most amount of information per minute, haha you really understand efficiency
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Hey buddy, you can access all my past newsletters on my website - saulocosta.poker. Just scroll down the homepage and you'll find the cards there
if recs over call flop Cbets and over fold to Turn double barrels does that mean Triple barrel bluffing is bad against recs ?
nevermind hadnt finished watching the video
Think the first point about checking wider with value OTR vs recreationals is only partially true. Because while they bluff too much they also overcheck in BxB, so with hands that block in theory I will always check but hands like top pairs that could go for a small overbet I think checking is a substantial mistake.
Hey mate. While I believe your premise could have merits, a qualitative perception is not sufficient to determine the best play. The only way you will know whether checking top pair is the best play or not is by modeling the fish behavior. Making an assumption based on feeling alone can lead to lots of missed opportunities of strategy upgrade
@@saulocostapoker Oh, for sure. My conclusions above are based on frequencies from MDA for both betting and bluffing frequency and then applying those in nodelocking solver for some example boards. What I would find then is that block-betting weak hands is dominated by XC to snap off their bluffs, but stronger hands would bet pure themselves instead because they mainly get value from getting called by worse, and since fish will check back too much SDV we lose out (For example in your video (0:40) we see fish snap x back 99 instead of going for thin value). Potentially there can be a case trapping hands that can x-raise river but something like strong Jx I would pure bet for sure here for pot (or like 95p to make it look appealing)
Do you agree with this or do you think there are other factors to consider?
what stakes are these games?
200nl
Gostaria de saber se vc tem algum link pra criar conta no bodog?
How do you know what their cards were?? Or at u just using certain hands as an example of what their range might look like.
On bodog we can download the hand histories after 24h with all cards revealed
@@saulocostapoker wow even folded cards that’s crazy
1:25 I agree with what you say. But with 77 in that river he is also gonna overbluffcatch with hands he shouldnt like Ax. I am not 100% sure that check calling is better than betting for value because of that reason.
Plenty of Ax are already supposed to call river gyazo.com/5f959a86084d7c938b37cf632b7b4a0d so a fish calling with them wouldn't be "overbluffcatch". Also data shows that fish overfold, not overcall - which seems to be your inner assumption
@@saulocostapoker I agree. Probably it's better to check, all I am saying is that its not completely obvious which option is better. Data also shows fish overcall compared to solver (extrapolate to preflop for example, they make the same mistakes postflop). Fish could bluffcatch there with even something as bad as Qx. Anyway your content is so good, thanks so much for all.
Thanks for the compliment mate, appreciate it.
Fish don't overcall postflop though. They do call too much preflop from most positions, but when it comes to facing bets on the river, no, they fold more than solver. Check this video if you want to see actual data on that: th-cam.com/video/we1vTe9t624/w-d-xo.html
@@saulocostapoker Oh. Now I get It. Its because they have a much wider range postflop so thats why they overfold postflop. But if they were playing the same combo as a regular, they would be much more likely to overcall, thats for sure.
pure gold
Hey Saulo, I don't understand how to read your population stat prints where it'll say 42 weak, 39 weak, and 45 weak, I don't know what that means. Could you explain?
Hey, weak is the word H2N uses to classify a bluffing hand. 42 weak means 42% bluffs in that betsizing. For river lines, any low pair (4th pair or lower) is considered a bluff
How do you see his cards at 3:17 ?
Bodog allows players to download hand histories with all holecards revealed. I just put them in the video in post-production
In the hand SB 3b BTN fish;
Flop 5TT tt.
Why dont you b33 flop + b66 turn to attack all the broadways hands ?
97s prefers bet than call a stab and fish range miss vastly this board ?
b33 is bad against fish without equity. They float too wide and overraise. And then the exploits when checking are much bigger - the folds vs delay and the subsequent lines are more profitable with bluffs
@@saulocostapoker thx, i add this to my anki warm up. I start to get a lot of flash cards of you in there. You rock !
What's the overlay that we sometimes on the opponents cards that show "Pokerstars" style cards? I don't see that feature in Jurojin.
I think it's edited in the video after the fact.
Those are my opponent`s actual cards. They were added in post-production. On bodog I can download hand histories with all cards revealed 24h after the hand was played
@@saulocostapokerthat makes sense! Love that you are making new content and love GTO Wizard! Thanks for the explanation!
High Value, ty
i find it a little rash to assume someone a rec by a preflop call timing. Some people act quickly and don’t randomize. i’m all for timing tells but 99% recreational based upon a preflop timing is a bit much imo. Great vid as always bro. appreciate you
The "some people act quickly" is not really a strong argument, as you gotta consider the probabilities. If this "some people" is 1%, then it doesn't make any difference. I've been using this timing inference for years with great success, don't remember ever making a wrong assessment. But I get where you're coming from, don't emulate it if you don't feel confident about it
Excelente inglês 👏👏👏
Obrigado amigo!
you sure about that turn check being highest EV play w/ 77 at the 20 min mark??
Yeah, no point in betting vs 2 garbage ranges. Then with a rec in the pot you always have the extra EV of the river overbluff
super Saulo🔥🔥
Thank you!
Também gostaria muito de falar com essa fluência isso desde que tinha 20 anos estou com 50 anos
What a beast!!!😍😍💯💯💯
Thanks mate
So overbet rivers like a madman, got it 😁
hahaha yeah thats a good part of it
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bro esse foi top dms!
Tes mon meilleur ami saulo-costa
need some new nomenclature for "Rec" and "Reg" because they simply sound too similarly. Especially in a portuguese accent
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Thanks buddy
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at 15 min , im surprise you dont want to squeeze that 3b to keep the fish in hu , maybe something like 28 bb , what is yur tp right here ? i mean co 3b is not that tight , you can make fold him a lot , and lets see a flop against fish
Anyone who knows something like Jurojin but for Mac?
Wait, what!? You could see that guys hand? 3:23
also @1:38
Holecards were edited in post-production. 24h after the hands were played I can download the HH with all cards revealed
@@saulocostapoker thanks! I saw that in a later reply.
player in hand 1 was a bot i think lol
Why?
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