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Around 10:32, you said something along the lines of people over fold on the AQx texture to overbet. You then said we should check the bottom of range and bet the top of range. Why wouldn't we bet bottom of range and check top of range if people are over folding to overbet on the flop?
Very interesting theme! @8:40 I think AA is a block-bet. Assuming he always bets twopairs and sets on the flop, his most likely river bluff-catchers are going to be AT/A9/A6/A4, which we double-block. So when he calls the river shove it will mostly be with the flush. By block-betting we widen his calling-range to include hands like Tx + we give him a chance to turn hands like Tx/9x/88/77/QJ/KQ/KJ with a club into a bluff.
I actually prefer checking now, feel like his range is a bit too polarized into very weak hands that may not call and very strong hands that have me beat. But I agree that blocking is better than shoving!
I haven't been playing much because I am in the middle of getting my Google Data Analytics certification, a new hobby.. But I am still doing my bankroll challenge when I can. One month in, at micro-stakes and I have just about quadrupled my bankroll. The key, as you point out, is understabdin/srydting theory but taking advantage of every exploit I can spot. You're a Philosophize This! subscriber! When I was first diagnosed with cancer, Stephen was just starting his podcast and we began a correspondence. I am a big fan.
hi saulo great vid, I dont understand that concept of when villain is capped you want to size up your strong hands, for example hand T9hh on 20:35 time on the river... if they are so capped I got it that solver would size up more thin for value but dont people fold too much? isn´t better the opposite I mean to size down to get crying calls from that weak range? To me this feeels like this bet rarely gets called by worse but we still can loose vs sets,straight mby some under/tricky played flush. I would want to bluff a ton vs this river check because of overfold but why to valuebet thin that i dont get.
Increasing betsizing and betting frequency with value against a weaker range is the automatic exploit with your range, without making any assumptions about how they will react to your bets. Since they have a weaker range, your good hands increase in equity, which means you can bet larger and more often. Now, if you know that they will fold too much AND you want to play a max exploit strategy, then you should bet bluffs and check thin value. Note however that this requires making an assumption, being correct about it, and also expecting not to get countered when you do it. I don't recommend playing so face up to the point where you only bluff when you bet, except in extreme circumstances where opponents can't and won't do anything about it.
@@saulocostapoker cool I kind of understand that but from what we know from MDA people massively overfold after probe turn + check river oop so isnt this too extreme? I still can imagine planty of better hands he checks otr scared of flush card comming. Atleast that what i see in my games (5c plo) that people´s betting range otr is extremely polarized and they are just unable to thin valuebet weaker flushes for example so I thought it would be the same in nlh in this spot where a lot of people auto check sets/straights.
Thx for the upload. Good Video! One question: 10:39 you said "Check-Bet-Bet is one of the most overbluffed line". But the line was Check-Check-Bet. So you mean: xxb is overbluffed? Or xbb? Or both? (My intuition says both 😉)
22:00 you call down w 99 on KTT64 after V clicks back OTF. Do you take board texture into consideration? If so how does that factor in? Are you going to put out a course on MDA?
I'm old enough (almost 47) to remember when 3x was the standard preflop open but watching this and heard you say that recreational players almost always use the 3x sizing pre. I can't even imagine how much the game has changed since I last played online.
@saulocostapoker it's definitely been a while. I played a ton between 2005-2010 on Full Tilt before it got shutdown, then a bit on Carbon poker 7-8 years ago.
Hey nice video, whats the exact reason behind the 6.5bb 3b size BTN vs CO from that one guy you called out a reg ? Do you split sizings in that case ? Whats the benefit ?
Hi Saulo, could you elaborate on the logic used at 14:35? If he doesn’t float the flop with many Ace of hearts, I don’t see why it’s a good card to have when turn barreling.
Because if the Ah is not part of villains range anymore on the turn it unblocks his folding range. If he had Ad instead he would block Ad bdfd that floated the flop that will now autofold turn for example
Can anyone explain me the concept at 14:30 behind " A of hearts is good 'cos villain it's not going to be floating the flop with too many A of hearts so i got unblockers to his folding range". When i think about this in game: after i cb flop and get called, i feel is not good holding A of hearts 'cos villain would have folded some A of hearts against B75 OTF so i'm blocking is folding range. Or maybe i have to take into account that A is a GS from villain perspective OTF? What i'm doing wrong? Ty
Hi Saulo! What do you think about the following villain’s line when defending OOP (BB vs BU for ex.) whether SRP or 3bet pot: check-call / check-call / donk 75%+ or even jamming? Whenever I call these donks on the river, it’s 90% the nuts. Thanks!
Hello, what can you say about the node: We are IP we bet flop, check behind turn, and then our opponent bets the river. Is this node overbluffed/underbluffed/ neither?
Thanks mate! I did not live or in the US, nor was I born there. My english comes from watching all the 10 seasons of Friends about 6 times 😂 I don't know how that happened, I just naturally became fluent in it. Crazy, I know
@@saulocostapoker wow, you must be a sort of genius. I appreciate the answer, honestly. Not too many content creator takes the trouble to get back to their viewers.
Hi. Great video. I learn a lot from the way you think about poker. 19:17 you advertise limping exploitable with only premiums from EP and HJ to capture more ev. Is this backed by your data? It seems you are a dataguy, focusing on numbers. Would be interesting to see, as this strategy is not something any other reg on youtube is proclaiming to be good, as far as I can tell at least.
for long time opens have sized down. there are still uses for larger opens, especially in live. live tables recs can call 6+x opens happily with their a4o so stick in the money. however online, especially in higher stakes, best to size down. i do personally use 3x sizings in online micro stakes when i know the pool is especially juicy as well.
Some specific things may not translate directly, like bluffing frequencies of specific postflop lines. But principles should remain the same: people will struggle to bluffcatch as much as solver in most river spots; they will struggle with controlling their bluffing frequencies when their range is pretty wide; and so on
Anyone else, when watching Saulo's videos about exploiting leaks, tends to focus more on how not to have these leaks in their games (adn exploit players good enough to try to exploit them) rather than how to exploit players who have them?
@@susymay7831 I know, and I do play exploitative of course. But I can't help seeing how exploitable some of my exploitative plays are and that tends to prevent me from being fully exploitative, I try to keep a minimum of balance, at least against decent regs, even the ones that are probably too bad to notice and adapt. Most of the regs at my stakes are either very nit (
Hey mate, know you from GTOw 1 y ago or so, when I started to watch all your vids. I really loved what you have done there. Have to be honest about all this. I dont like the way poker shifted into MDA stuff when we can have massive edge against people we dont knwo and we never played against, also dont like when this is used against recreationals. Seems like too much for me and not a good way to keep this game fresh and alive. I get that people just want to make money. And I love content. But when content donest make us think and understand theory, it only says "hey, here people is folding because I have data, use it", I dont know. I think this kind of stuff are gonna hurt this game more than make it better. Just my honest take. Hope you take it the good way (I know most people dont give a fuck about this so I am the 1% probably). Cheers. And ofc I am biass. I am one of those that allways watched timing tells and try to figure it out how people was playing every pot. So I see my self where now a lot of people have this information "for free" and maybe that is anoying for me. Not gonna lie. I hope in the future we can make this game more complex in some way, so to keep it allways closest to a game possible.
Saulo found a way to monetize showing people what works and what doesn’t, and you’re upset because you believe it effects your winrate, and it’s also clearly effecting your ego. Saulo also does go into the theory behind his plays quite often, but there isn’t enough time to monologue the many nuances of every single hand. Tbh you just sound like a hater trying to disguise your comment as constructive criticism.
@@schroederluck7984 "and you’re upset because you believe it effects your winrate" Not really. You cant just take a part of my comment and consider it to be everything. I dont think it affects my WR tbh. I belive the most people start to look for solutions like this, the more people will play without thinking. And there were allways space to think. But aggain. We are just mirrors. So maybe you cant have an honest criticism without beeing a hater, so you would see me that way. My intake is honest and simple: do we really need MDA to beat recreationals?. It is getting predatory tbh. Where is the final line to all of this?.
as long as it doesn't kill the game, all is good... but I do get your point. honestly, there's gotta be a balance. it's better to make, say, 3bb/100 than squeeze out that extra 1bb/100 but in 6 months most recreationals leave the game and you now make 0.5bb/100. the game needs recreationals, of course, therefore they can't be losing money at too fast a rate, otherwise they will leave. what regulars and professionals want is to make as much money as possible. if they are too greedy, squeezing out every last bb/100, many recreationals will indeed leave the game.
Online poker is already dead, maybe like 5% of regs have winrates higher than 1-2bb/100 at 100nl and higher. The regs like Saulo, and many other known coaches, made their money while you still could and left. Now that the games have dried up selling content and creating a brand is more profitable, whilst also snuffing out any life online poker still had (the poker sites are doing their part too).
Giving away all this for free to thousands of viewers will badly hurt the profitability of online poker and your company Metagame. I guess you value getting more likes over this
Hey my friend! I respect your opinion but I see things differently. There is a pretty big difference between information and knowledge. While I appreciate the idea that my videos alone can cause a shift in the poker ecosystem, in my opinion it takes much more than TH-cam videos to improve at poker, regardless of how good or dense in information they may be. That being said, I would definitely not claim I have it all figured out or that I can't be wrong. Only time will tell!
@@saulocostapoker I do agree somewhat with that, but MDA is very easy to implement into your game once you’ve been told which spots are overbluffed or overfolded. More technical poker concepts require skill as well as knowledge. Your videos are high quality and I do watch and learn from them. It’s just that’s also my concern about them, don’t want regs to learn to take all the rec’s money quicker and then I have to get a real job 😉
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Around 10:32, you said something along the lines of people over fold on the AQx texture to overbet.
You then said we should check the bottom of range and bet the top of range.
Why wouldn't we bet bottom of range and check top of range if people are over folding to overbet on the flop?
Very interesting theme!
@8:40 I think AA is a block-bet. Assuming he always bets twopairs and sets on the flop, his most likely river bluff-catchers are going to be AT/A9/A6/A4, which we double-block.
So when he calls the river shove it will mostly be with the flush.
By block-betting we widen his calling-range to include hands like Tx + we give him a chance to turn hands like Tx/9x/88/77/QJ/KQ/KJ with a club into a bluff.
I actually prefer checking now, feel like his range is a bit too polarized into very weak hands that may not call and very strong hands that have me beat. But I agree that blocking is better than shoving!
Or just bet the Flop 😅
I haven't been playing much because I am in the middle of getting my Google Data Analytics certification, a new hobby.. But I am still doing my bankroll challenge when I can. One month in, at micro-stakes and I have just about quadrupled my bankroll. The key, as you point out, is understabdin/srydting theory but taking advantage of every exploit I can spot. You're a Philosophize This! subscriber! When I was first diagnosed with cancer, Stephen was just starting his podcast and we began a correspondence. I am a big fan.
wow those passive lines with villain overbluffing river is so cool. thanks for the content
Hey saulo, great vid again. Regarding the fish click v cbet in 3bp, are you still closing eyes and calling down v any other size raise? Thanks man
Yeah, calling down regardless of flop raise size. There isnt much room for many different sizes anyway, it will be mostly 2x or 3x
Great video Saulo, even for a PLO player like myself I believe there is a lot of value in this video (as well as most of your other videos). Thanks ✌
Thats awesome to hear, thank you!
This is one of the best poker videos I have seen in the past 10 years. well done bro
hi saulo great vid, I dont understand that concept of when villain is capped you want to size up your strong hands, for example hand T9hh on 20:35 time on the river... if they are so capped I got it that solver would size up more thin for value but dont people fold too much? isn´t better the opposite I mean to size down to get crying calls from that weak range? To me this feeels like this bet rarely gets called by worse but we still can loose vs sets,straight mby some under/tricky played flush. I would want to bluff a ton vs this river check because of overfold but why to valuebet thin that i dont get.
Increasing betsizing and betting frequency with value against a weaker range is the automatic exploit with your range, without making any assumptions about how they will react to your bets. Since they have a weaker range, your good hands increase in equity, which means you can bet larger and more often. Now, if you know that they will fold too much AND you want to play a max exploit strategy, then you should bet bluffs and check thin value. Note however that this requires making an assumption, being correct about it, and also expecting not to get countered when you do it. I don't recommend playing so face up to the point where you only bluff when you bet, except in extreme circumstances where opponents can't and won't do anything about it.
@@saulocostapoker cool I kind of understand that but from what we know from MDA people massively overfold after probe turn + check river oop so isnt this too extreme? I still can imagine planty of better hands he checks otr scared of flush card comming. Atleast that what i see in my games (5c plo) that people´s betting range otr is extremely polarized and they are just unable to thin valuebet weaker flushes for example so I thought it would be the same in nlh in this spot where a lot of people auto check sets/straights.
Thx for the upload. Good Video! One question: 10:39 you said "Check-Bet-Bet is one of the most overbluffed line". But the line was Check-Check-Bet. So you mean: xxb is overbluffed? Or xbb? Or both? (My intuition says both 😉)
I meant to say check-check-bet in fact 😅 both are overbluffed though 👀
22:00 you call down w 99 on KTT64 after V clicks back OTF. Do you take board texture into consideration? If so how does that factor in? Are you going to put out a course on MDA?
I'm old enough (almost 47) to remember when 3x was the standard preflop open but watching this and heard you say that recreational players almost always use the 3x sizing pre. I can't even imagine how much the game has changed since I last played online.
If the last time you played online was over 5 years ago, then it has changed quite a lot
@saulocostapoker it's definitely been a while. I played a ton between 2005-2010 on Full Tilt before it got shutdown, then a bit on Carbon poker 7-8 years ago.
Hey nice video, whats the exact reason behind the 6.5bb 3b size BTN vs CO from that one guy you called out a reg ? Do you split sizings in that case ? Whats the benefit ?
Hi Saulo, could you elaborate on the logic used at 14:35? If he doesn’t float the flop with many Ace of hearts, I don’t see why it’s a good card to have when turn barreling.
Because if the Ah is not part of villains range anymore on the turn it unblocks his folding range. If he had Ad instead he would block Ad bdfd that floated the flop that will now autofold turn for example
@@LogicLab2 I see, thank you!
What that guy said 👆🏽
This channel is looking like a hidden gem
Can anyone explain me the concept at 14:30 behind " A of hearts is good 'cos villain it's not going to be floating the flop with too many A of hearts so i got unblockers to his folding range". When i think about this in game: after i cb flop and get called, i feel is not good holding A of hearts 'cos villain would have folded some A of hearts against B75 OTF so i'm blocking is folding range. Or maybe i have to take into account that A is a GS from villain perspective OTF? What i'm doing wrong? Ty
there wasnt a heart on flop, so you unblock his bdfd floats that will fold turn
What this guy said 👆🏽
Amazing content Saulo!
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure!
Hey saulo, you said regulars never use the 3x open preflop. What is the appropriate opening preflop in low stakes cash?
2x from UTG-HJ, 2.5x from CO-BTN and 3x from SB
Hi Saulo!
What do you think about the following villain’s line when defending OOP (BB vs BU for ex.) whether SRP or 3bet pot: check-call / check-call / donk 75%+ or even jamming?
Whenever I call these donks on the river, it’s 90% the nuts.
Thanks!
Hey Saulo, amazing work and thanks a lot for these videos. Could you make a video on Blind vs Blind 4bet pots flop strategy?
More MDA videos, please!
Yes. Much more MDA
Hello, what can you say about the node:
We are IP we bet flop, check behind turn, and then our opponent bets the river. Is this node overbluffed/underbluffed/ neither?
over bluffed
What this guy said 👆🏽
vídeos de MDA, pool leaks e exploits, heuristics valem ouro.
I hit the Like button three times!
good content Saulo!I wanted to ask if you live in US or born there, seems to me that you speak perfect USA English, which I admire a lot!
Thanks mate! I did not live or in the US, nor was I born there. My english comes from watching all the 10 seasons of Friends about 6 times 😂 I don't know how that happened, I just naturally became fluent in it. Crazy, I know
@@saulocostapoker wow, you must be a sort of genius. I appreciate the answer, honestly. Not too many content creator takes the trouble to get back to their viewers.
What's the tool that you are using to make you have 6 bet sizing options, and also with randommizer? Thanks a lot
It's a software called Jurojin! There is a link in the description of the video 👆🏽
Hi. Great video. I learn a lot from the way you think about poker. 19:17 you advertise limping exploitable with only premiums from EP and HJ to capture more ev. Is this backed by your data? It seems you are a dataguy, focusing on numbers. Would be interesting to see, as this strategy is not something any other reg on youtube is proclaiming to be good, as far as I can tell at least.
Yes, it shows as almost 2x more profitable in my database, for a sample of many thousands of occurrences.
@@saulocostapoker Cool. Thanks a lot, will try this out
Your background music is great. Can you share it? Thank you
AK sempre se deve ir all in pre flop? Ou depende do range do adversario?
Depende. Em algumas situações pode fazer sentido foldar
13:00 can you give me detail here? I thought a standard open was 3x
No, anyone who opens 3x online is a fish , 2.5x has been the standard GTO size for the past 10 years at least
for long time opens have sized down. there are still uses for larger opens, especially in live. live tables recs can call 6+x opens happily with their a4o so stick in the money. however online, especially in higher stakes, best to size down. i do personally use 3x sizings in online micro stakes when i know the pool is especially juicy as well.
WHAT MONITOR DO YOU USE SAULO? VERY GOOD VIDEOS GG
It's a 32 inch Ultrawide from Acer. Really good, recommend
There are levels to this Game 💯
Best channel on TH-cam for poker
Thank you so much!
its even close either
Is this MDA knowledge applies also in MTTs?
Some specific things may not translate directly, like bluffing frequencies of specific postflop lines. But principles should remain the same: people will struggle to bluffcatch as much as solver in most river spots; they will struggle with controlling their bluffing frequencies when their range is pretty wide; and so on
can u tell us what hands they had..
7:46 LOL
That AA hand was awesome, bad luck OTR.
Jogo torneio mesmo assim acompanhando tudo,
alguma situações ótimas pra usar contra recriativo. TOP!!
Massa, obrigado por acompanhar!
More MDA please
Anyone else, when watching Saulo's videos about exploiting leaks, tends to focus more on how not to have these leaks in their games (adn exploit players good enough to try to exploit them) rather than how to exploit players who have them?
Actually you would like to be playing an exploitable game, more so the lower you play.
@@susymay7831 I know, and I do play exploitative of course. But I can't help seeing how exploitable some of my exploitative plays are and that tends to prevent me from being fully exploitative, I try to keep a minimum of balance, at least against decent regs, even the ones that are probably too bad to notice and adapt. Most of the regs at my stakes are either very nit (
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it would be cool if you talked little about brazilians tendencies from my experience on gg poker nl 200 they hate folding do you agree?
Most of the brazilians on GG Poker nl200 are my students, that's why they hate folding 😂😂🤣 they have been trained to call a lot
Hey mate, know you from GTOw 1 y ago or so, when I started to watch all your vids. I really loved what you have done there.
Have to be honest about all this. I dont like the way poker shifted into MDA stuff when we can have massive edge against people we dont knwo and we never played against, also dont like when this is used against recreationals.
Seems like too much for me and not a good way to keep this game fresh and alive.
I get that people just want to make money. And I love content. But when content donest make us think and understand theory, it only says "hey, here people is folding because I have data, use it", I dont know. I think this kind of stuff are gonna hurt this game more than make it better.
Just my honest take. Hope you take it the good way (I know most people dont give a fuck about this so I am the 1% probably).
Cheers.
And ofc I am biass. I am one of those that allways watched timing tells and try to figure it out how people was playing every pot. So I see my self where now a lot of people have this information "for free" and maybe that is anoying for me. Not gonna lie.
I hope in the future we can make this game more complex in some way, so to keep it allways closest to a game possible.
Saulo found a way to monetize showing people what works and what doesn’t, and you’re upset because you believe it effects your winrate, and it’s also clearly effecting your ego. Saulo also does go into the theory behind his plays quite often, but there isn’t enough time to monologue the many nuances of every single hand.
Tbh you just sound like a hater trying to disguise your comment as constructive criticism.
@@schroederluck7984 "and you’re upset because you believe it effects your winrate"
Not really. You cant just take a part of my comment and consider it to be everything.
I dont think it affects my WR tbh. I belive the most people start to look for solutions like this, the more people will play without thinking. And there were allways space to think.
But aggain. We are just mirrors. So maybe you cant have an honest criticism without beeing a hater, so you would see me that way.
My intake is honest and simple: do we really need MDA to beat recreationals?. It is getting predatory tbh. Where is the final line to all of this?.
as long as it doesn't kill the game, all is good... but I do get your point. honestly, there's gotta be a balance. it's better to make, say, 3bb/100 than squeeze out that extra 1bb/100 but in 6 months most recreationals leave the game and you now make 0.5bb/100. the game needs recreationals, of course, therefore they can't be losing money at too fast a rate, otherwise they will leave. what regulars and professionals want is to make as much money as possible. if they are too greedy, squeezing out every last bb/100, many recreationals will indeed leave the game.
Online poker is already dead, maybe like 5% of regs have winrates higher than 1-2bb/100 at 100nl and higher. The regs like Saulo, and many other known coaches, made their money while you still could and left. Now that the games have dried up selling content and creating a brand is more profitable, whilst also snuffing out any life online poker still had (the poker sites are doing their part too).
@@_MMWWMM_ tell me you're bad at the game without telling me you're bad at the game. guessing you're a huge authority on poker, right?! hahaha
beast
MDA Video please!
I just posted one 🤔🤔😅
@@saulocostapoker
Thank you! But more!😄
How good is your memory to keep Up with all those nodes lol
6 years of practice goes a long way!
Giving away all this for free to thousands of viewers will badly hurt the profitability of online poker and your company Metagame. I guess you value getting more likes over this
Hey my friend! I respect your opinion but I see things differently. There is a pretty big difference between information and knowledge. While I appreciate the idea that my videos alone can cause a shift in the poker ecosystem, in my opinion it takes much more than TH-cam videos to improve at poker, regardless of how good or dense in information they may be.
That being said, I would definitely not claim I have it all figured out or that I can't be wrong. Only time will tell!
@@saulocostapoker I do agree somewhat with that, but MDA is very easy to implement into your game once you’ve been told which spots are overbluffed or overfolded. More technical poker concepts require skill as well as knowledge.
Your videos are high quality and I do watch and learn from them. It’s just that’s also my concern about them, don’t want regs to learn to take all the rec’s money quicker and then I have to get a real job 😉
Every coach cares more about making money themselves over the poker economy as a whole. It's just the nature of the beast.
You don't get rid of horses to bring back horses 😅😅😅😅😅. Try to do this and be left behind.
@@susymay7831 you’re right I wouldn’t bring back horses because I don’t live on a farm. Good relevant point
Great work! Thanks!
Good job bro