No matter what game I play, I'll always be the gunslinger type in my heart. Nothing beats the feeling of a revolver pumping out huge damage with each trigger pull. When I saw the feel of Jakobs handguns in the gameplay reveal I knew I was in for a treat.
I agree @Kenj1801. I played BL2 for years but only bought BL1 recently when the goty version came out. Gunslinger Mordi with my favourite mashers is so much fun. Can't believe I waited so long to try the original game.
@@adamgray1753 Jakobs so far seem like the guns i'll likely go brand loyal for (Used to be Maliwan) or possibly Vladof but i'm very excited to see how powerful end game Jakobs sniper rifles will be as well.
@@Lordbobomb, due to my play styles for various BL2 characters I tend to be brand loyal for specific weapon types for specific characters. For example for Salvador I'll typically maintain two Slag SMGs at all times. I like to maintain an arsenal comprising of automatic weapons rather than semi-automatics.
@@adamgray1753 Understandable and a very sensible idea to do for certain characters, as for me personally i'm a pretty big fan of Maliwan due to their weapons being god tier in Borderlands 1, and Pretty good in 2 and Pre-sequel. But given how they will work in 3 i'm not so sure i'll end up returning to them for most of the their weapons. I am still hoping that the ASMD is gonna work like in the Unreal Series (Which is where the gun is based on) But other than that i'm not quite impressed with Maliwan this time around.
So far, @@Lordbobomb, this is just early demo stuff. Hopefully these good TH-camrs doing good BL3 videos will help get Gearbox to do better balancing outside of story driven related stuff.
Love the old look those Jacobs guns have. Would feel rustic and old fashion. Love the idea of blowing a bandits head off red dead style with a pump action Jacobs shotty
Looks like their shotguns are lever-action which is even more cowboyesque. Pump-action is a younger design concept. John Browning, himself, predicted that a pump-action mechanism would work better for shotguns than lever-action. Oh, and he designed all the lever-action shotguns Winchester is known for (1887, 1901, etc.) - which are technically not just lever-action but lever-action rolling block.
@@Derchlands it eats away at shields too in this game, from my experience. I mostly use corrosive grenades (from Witch's Brew). And the corrossion damage is so damn high that proc'ing on a Badass Enforcer dissolves them nearly instantly. Though i have had some bad luck with elemental guns. Mostly cryo and shock. The few incendiary drops i got are rather weak, with the exception of the death ray you get in the nekrotafeio, which just has ridiculous melting damage, but is a very late game weapon
I love how the cylinders actually have the correct ammo capacity instead of having like a sniper that visually only has six shots but in actual usage has like, 11 or something lol
@@theblancmange1265 That always cheesed me off in BL1 to0 also as well. Combat shotguns (which were pump-actuated revolving single-action) with a "mag2" type of cylinder held 12 rounds despite the cylinder having eight chambers. And the Bulldog holds 20!
Funny how Paul Sage (Or was it Pitchford? It was some time ago) joked about how "the bullets actually go where you want them to" in reference to this. The boxy Tediore sight from BL2 has thankfully been buried alive.
Yep. As much fun as it is to break out the Gaige or Claptrap play-style with elemental mayhem, in every one of these games I come back to old-school Jakobs philosophy, making every shot count. It just feels right. That's pretty awesome game design, really - everything from branding to execution. Those Jakobs commercials aren't just funny world-building, while the actual product feels roughly the same across the board: you play differently. That's good stuff.
Yep, @@Fr0stbite1801, Derchlands, and DarkInfernape65! I really enjoyed the attention to detail that the Jakobs reloads reload exactly the spent round(s). I can't help but to feel as though this much attention to detail helps to breathe additional life to BL3.
Jakobs is my favorite brand. No bells, no whistles, no unnecessary elements. Just high damage and fire rate on your schedule. I’m gonna be a tech cowboy when I play as Zane
Just imagine the possibilities the Jacobs gimmick has for legendaries! I hope we get a weapon that adds overkill damage from the initial shot to the damage of the ricocheted projectile. The initial crit could split into multiple projectiles upon ricochet. Or heck, let the ricocheted projectile be elemental! I want all the crazy effects in the world!
Some of that is confirmed to be in the game. There's a legendary Jakobs pistol that splits into a shotgun blast on crits. I dunno about overkill damage but there's also a sniper that explodes on contact. Jakobs also has the latest iteration of the Reaver/Fremington's Edge, with a ridiculous 20x zoom scope. Yeah, twenty times zoom...
Same, just started BL1 Remastered this week and the revolvers still feel so satisfying. The pistols aren’t great, but the revolvers have such a kick to them!
@@thomashewitt8104 In BL1, I basically just used a revolver and a sniper, with an SMG for backup if I was getting swarmed. It was amazing. Shame they combined the repeaters and revolvers together in BL2.
I absolutely LOVED Revolvers in BL1 and couldn't stand the new way they worked in BL2. I don't want to fan the hammer, I want a freaking handcannon. Or a Pestilent Defiler. Probably my favorite revolver to be honest.
An upgradeable melee weapon for each character. One that would be like any other loot. This would of made fisticuffs alot more interesting even in Ultimate Vault Hunter mode.
Hey, Derchlands, at about the 7:30 mark when you said that Jakobs guns feel about the same to BL2 watching your game play footage I think it's not "about the same as BL2", but rather Jakobs guns look, sound, and feel to be more refined than in BL2. That Jakobs guns seem to be even more specialized for the skillful players who don't want the "gimmicks" of elemental weapons. With this in mind I do hope Gearbox finally separates the less than a second firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles from their much faster firing sniper rifles with unique bonuses exclusive to both "camps". Such as the much slower firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles can have a unique damage bonus such as a significantly higher crit damage bonus while the much faster firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles can have a compounding crit damage bonus, but within a stated time frame to get the compounding crit damage bonus. To me this would give me multiple reasons to *finally* give a darn about the much slower firing Jakobs sniper rifles. In BL2 I ignore them entirely even when I find them to have up to a vastly superior damage output.
All of the Jakobs weapons look awesome, I think I even saw someone using a Winchester-type rifle, which is a welcome addition. I think the emphasis on aiming for those crits is a great way to set Jakobs even further apart from the other manufacturers, and it also serves to punish players who just spam poorly-aimed shots with pistols/revolvers at close range, for example, as the reload seems slower compared to other pistols.
For the Jakobs AR, hes holding the side grip because to shoot it, you have to spin the side grip, i think. In the last cut you can see the hand move up after unaimming, showing that his hand was moving while firing the gun.
Woo! Awesome to hear. Jacobs has my favorite FEEL of all of the Borderlands guns, even if they don't do as much as some of the other guns in terms of effects. Well, in BL2 and TPS... I haven't worked on BL1 yet (we're sort of working through backwards, but are trapped in replaying BL2 instead ...) This is very exciting :)
Jakob’s is the best by ultimate favorite the iron willed nimble jack shotgun looks like a blunderbuss even has a blunderbuss like barrel and only a one shot I want it so much
FL4K apparently has a sniper in their released art, which makes it likely that we're getting a very sniping friendly playstyle. Maybe something awesome like "pet holds enemies in place and reveals their crit spots", or tanking while you hang back.
@Derch The ratches eat the dead bodies of the ones you kill and every body they eat gives them health back. If their health bar is full when they consume a dead body it gives them an additional health bar above their original and I've seen them stack to 3 or 4 health bars which is awesome and it almost reminded me of Kraggons in a way. The only problem is that it takes them so long to eat a body that they aren't really a formidable enemy but maybe at higher levels they be tougher.
At around 9:30 where you start shooting the Ratch Nest boss thing, the health bar you shred is labelled "Ratch Swarm" and not Ratch Nest like the main body, I'm guessing it spawned a mob or something you shot instead of the mini boss.
Atlas guns depend a lot on their Tracker type. Some of them can tag crit spots and make all the followup shots home in for additional crits. They'll be handy for bosses with protected crit zones.
Marshal guns are just amazing. Alot have 1.3 second or less reload, and fire as fast as you click. And there is SIGNIFIGANTLY less sway than BL and BL2. So you can chain crit shots really well
Chocx A Dahl weapon doesn’t necessarily have to have a Burst Mode, there could be full-automatic and semi-automatic switch weapons out there we don’t know off yet.
Since I bought the game on Steam this week Jacob guns have been a consistant mainstay in my main's arsenal, I've definitely gotten a lot of bang for my buck with these guns.
Definitely excited to try out Jakobs guns. Idk why the "fire as fast as you can pull the trigger" mechanic from 2 wasn't combined with Maliwan's charging mechanic. Wanna fire quickly, spam the trigger. Wanna charge for a more powerful shot, hold it down. There you go. It's essentially the PRL from RE4 at that point, and properly done for a game this fast-paced. That being said, perhaps they'd be better as is with some practice. I had a massive argument with a friend about this recently (I was the bigger dickhead in this instance), so it's on my mind still. Anyway, onto Jakobs. I wasn't a massive fan of them in BL1 because of the horrifically slow fire rate and lack of elements. 2, took a while to warm up to them but I eventually loved them. I'm pretty excited for them in this.
My favourite Jacobs I seen was a assault rifle that actually was automatic, basically the character hand cranks to fire the gun, like a ye old 19th century hand cranked gatling gun.
Revolvers imo seem a little top heavy thanks to the overhang ridge on the top, quickly hip firing sounds insanely good though so at least that brings it back
That's exactly what Jakobs should be. Simple, no frills, just high accuracy, high damage, high recoil single-shot western-inspired weapons. Glad to see most (if not all) Jakobs guns DONT have alt fire modes.
Some Guy in a Waistcoat yeah i dont mind legendaries that do something different, as long as it stays true to old-fashioned weaponry from the 1800’s or earlier. Maybe even WW2 themed stuff actually. For instance, there’s a Jakobs rifle that’s full auto, but they crank it like a gatling gun, so it still fits the Jakobs style
let’s be honest the first 2 playthroughs is literally grabbing whatever gun. We’ll end up finding a perfect gun in each manufacturer. Endgame is fun and going for legendaries but it’s also fun picking up everything and seeing how they shoot. But gotta spam golden chests if they are there lol
I want a crit-spec skill tree. Loved playing zero Critical asention, Bore, and all the jazz. Skullmashzr, Maggie, unforgiven, Hawkeye (which I modded for uvhm). I love the old Jakobs :) mixing with a slag Sandhawk and a pimp, good fun.
I hope S&S is back. So many things went missing from the first game in the second game, and even the Pre-Sequel wasn't much good at explaining the sudden disappearance of the MIA loot manufacturers.
Favorite guns I've seen so far and that's saying alot because they all look good for sure. I even have some faith that Maliwan will be better than we think once we get used to them or some tweaks are made to them. I've always agreed with you that slow firing bolt snipers are very fun but were never effective because they were too slow for the damage but now I'm really looking forward to giving them a try again.
1- yes, Flak needs to be the sniper character, the first 2 things that i knew when i saw the BL3 trailer was that Flak and Jakobs guns looked awesome. 2- the Jakobs enhanced crit is obviously staying, but the bullet ricochet kinda... it feels off from the Jakobs theme like, precision, high raw damage(crits), low fire rate, etc. i, and i repeat myself, I would have made something like variable zoom, using the new fire-mode switch, which increases maybe crit damage, or does more damage while consuming more bullets idk, what do you think?
I'm liking the new Jakobs AR variants. Dat ping tho. Also, stripper clips. They're really going whole hog on them being just the "fudd gun" manufacturer, which is pretty nice honestly.
Those rat/roach things that "magically" healed themselves by eating their own dead friends to regain that health. Was curious if one would evolve into something bigger, but that never happened for me (game is still new too me, so here is the hope that things can increase in size and scope). Thought I'd share that with you, thought it was interesting.
I considered melee weapons myself, but if you think about it. if youre a melee character, every gun you find would be useless. (but not really) and as any other character if you found a melee weapon it's basically useless to you, in every way possible. a gun with a blade is useful to both, still.
The crank-action assault rifle works well as an automatic weapon for Jakobs while retaining the wild west theme, but it looks like a fishing rod that kills fishes instead of catching them. And I'm guessing we'll get to use two types of Jakobs AR in BL3, the new automatic crank-action AR and the spam fire semi-auto AR from BL2/ TPS.
Jakobs finally makes *LEVERGUNS! \8-D* Nuthin' more fun than a levergun. 1:48 What's the point of having a cartridge holder strapped to the side of a top-break single-action revolver if your character always reloads using a speedloader? And why does your character reload "wrong-handed?" It takes longer that way, therefore it defeats the whole point of the top-break design (which is fast and easy reloads). 2:49 Some Jake revolvers look like they're based on the Schofield (the ones that are top-break single-action), but that one looks like it draws influence from a ye olde open-top revolver like the Colt 1871. 3:24 With the hammer, you can probably swap between double-action and single-action (judging from some of the gameplay I've seen). I imagine single-action is more accurate (and more stylish), whereas double-action is faster. But since when do revolvers have magazines? I know, I know. We can just assume that "magazine" is used across all weapons types and also refers to revolver cylinders. 3:35 Notice the different cocking methods. Dig it! Fan the hammer while not aiming, but use a more precise method while aiming. The preferred technique with single-actions is called "cross-thumb" which is when you use the thumb of your support hand to cock the hammer. 5:34 No sights? What gives?! Haven't they figured out by now that we want functional sights on *all* weapons?! 6:19 I get what they're going for with the cockeyed scope, but it's mechanically pointless to have to flip the scope to the side to reload. Why not have the rifle feed from a diagonal magazine to justify the cockeyed scope? Or how about having both ir0n sight and a cockeyed scope so we can use combination sights like Dahl? That would make perfect sense on a safari rifle and I'm pretty sure Sir Hammerlock would back me up on this. I loved Whitting's Elephant Gun in BL1 and the Buffalo in BL2 (both manually operated Jakobs safari rifles with plain 'ol ir0n sights). 7:30 Top-break like a Schofield or Webley, but as I mentioned before, why the "wrong-handed" reload? Professionals agree that, whenever applicable, it's always preferable to reload with your support hand. The only possible exception would be with a gun that's noticeably front-heavy. Of if you shoot left-handed (like me), a revolver with a cylinder that swings out to the left. 8:29 Well, we can agree to diagree. I still say the "wrong-handed" reload defeats the point of a top-break design. I see right-handed shooters do that a lot with modern double-action revolvers with cylinders that swing out to the left and it drives me up a wall! Part of the reason is because, as a left-handed shooter (due to eye dominance), I understand that I need to modify my techniques because most controls are optimized for northpaws. So it makes no sense for a northpaw to be doing things "backerds" if they're using a device that was optimized fer them ta begin with. *Note:* I like the 5-shot cylinder. I'd hazard an educated guess that fewer chambers means bigger and badder bullets. 8:32 And yet it's a 5-shooter. Seems like a 5-shooter would be a Magnum or big-bore, whereas a 7- or 8-shooter would pack less punch per shot. 9:42 That Pritchard style bayonet should be mounted farther forward with that barrel. That barrel looks like it has a muzzle brake accessory which is probably why the bayonet doesn't mount farther forward on it. But look at it! You wouldn't be able to stab but two things with that sucker - Jack and squat - and "Jack" left town. 11:16 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is the deal with that reload animation?! If the scope is cockeyed anyway, why not just make the rifle top-fed with a straight-pull bolt-action mechanism and leave the scope stationary?! That would even allow for combination sights since you could have a scope on one side and ir0n sights on the other. Alternatively, you could have ir0n sights on top of the scope. That scope is based on an old-timey design, so it's long and thin, which means there'd be a nice broad sight radius if there were ir0n sights on top of it. 11:32 If it's not full-auto or burst-fire, it's not an "assault rifle." Jakobs "assault rifles" in BL2, since they were semi-auto, could be more accurate described as "battle rifles." 12:32 It must be crank-operated. You wouldn't be able to tell while you're aiming through the scope.
Hopefully Jakobs actually has some use for high lvl gameplay this go around. In 2 they were monstrous in the first playthrough and then fell off pretty hard barring impossible to find weapons like bekah.
Great video , i hope in bl3 there are no guns that lie like in bl2 all the revolvers said fires as fast as you can pull the trigger but a few had a fire cap idk why it was like that
@@Derchlands wow, i never knew that , i always thought it was just a lie or some kind of bug , thanks for informing me on that , i am shocked that there is still stuff i am finding out about this series that i did not know , it so awesome
I disagree on bladed weapons being a waste, especially on Jakobs weapons. Bladed revolvers I feel are a great asset to the arsenal, particularly with melee strong characters. Many is the time I've used Zer0 up close and after a head shot to an enemy delivered the deathblow in damn near the same action. I think Jakobs doesn't need to outfit elemental damage with shots being as they're so powerful. But I would like to see the game kinda branch out with different muzzle fixtures. Maybe something like a serrated barrel end, for example.
I wonder if bekah is still here, aswell as pimpernel (you didnt say anything about it on maliwan vid :| ) edt. what is the next manufacturer? (and i hope you got smthn to tell about children of the vault and old-new-atlas) :D
I get that you want fl4k to be a sniper, but I hope he isn't forced into it because I see pets and I say yes, and I don't want to lose that to the need to long range alone.
No matter what game I play, I'll always be the gunslinger type in my heart. Nothing beats the feeling of a revolver pumping out huge damage with each trigger pull. When I saw the feel of Jakobs handguns in the gameplay reveal I knew I was in for a treat.
I agree @Kenj1801. I played BL2 for years but only bought BL1 recently when the goty version came out. Gunslinger Mordi with my favourite mashers is so much fun. Can't believe I waited so long to try the original game.
@@scotspurs100 Have you gotten a Jakobs XX Masher with barrel4 (for "Max Damage") and body5 (for max fire rate)?
if it took more than one shot...
...you must have not gotten a crit :)
I love that the jakobs guns have the classic western ricochet sound for the crits.
there's pump action Jakobs shotties, break action Jakobs shotties, and i believe lever action, too.
So excited for Jakobs
Look at your fucking profile pic bro fucking cr*nge bro
The Jakobs guns are very pleasing to the eye, finally looking like the Gentlemen's guns as they kind of were advertised to be.
I absolutely love Jakobs sniper rifles. They're the best sniper rifles in BL2 to me. I wonder if this will continue in BL3.
@@adamgray1753 Jakobs so far seem like the guns i'll likely go brand loyal for (Used to be Maliwan) or possibly Vladof but i'm very excited to see how powerful end game Jakobs sniper rifles will be as well.
@@Lordbobomb, due to my play styles for various BL2 characters I tend to be brand loyal for specific weapon types for specific characters. For example for Salvador I'll typically maintain two Slag SMGs at all times. I like to maintain an arsenal comprising of automatic weapons rather than semi-automatics.
@@adamgray1753 Understandable and a very sensible idea to do for certain characters, as for me personally i'm a pretty big fan of Maliwan due to their weapons being god tier in Borderlands 1, and Pretty good in 2 and Pre-sequel. But given how they will work in 3 i'm not so sure i'll end up returning to them for most of the their weapons.
I am still hoping that the ASMD is gonna work like in the Unreal Series (Which is where the gun is based on) But other than that i'm not quite impressed with Maliwan this time around.
So far, @@Lordbobomb, this is just early demo stuff. Hopefully these good TH-camrs doing good BL3 videos will help get Gearbox to do better balancing outside of story driven related stuff.
That Jakobs side grip is actually a crank, like old gatling guns
Love the old look those Jacobs guns have. Would feel rustic and old fashion. Love the idea of blowing a bandits head off red dead style with a pump action Jacobs shotty
even the bayonets look like old hunting knifes its gorgeous
The whole appeal of Jakobs weapons right there.
Use em enough, and people will start to call you a space cowboy.
See you later
Looks like their shotguns are lever-action which is even more cowboyesque. Pump-action is a younger design concept. John Browning, himself, predicted that a pump-action mechanism would work better for shotguns than lever-action. Oh, and he designed all the lever-action shotguns Winchester is known for (1887, 1901, etc.) - which are technically not just lever-action but lever-action rolling block.
I really hope Jakobs guns stay powerful at high levels like in the first one.
Now that they got rid of the abomination of slag, hopefully everything does.
They really do, but corrosion is still damage king at high levels
Corrosion? There are barely any enemies with armor
@@Derchlands it eats away at shields too in this game, from my experience.
I mostly use corrosive grenades (from Witch's Brew). And the corrossion damage is so damn high that proc'ing on a Badass Enforcer dissolves them nearly instantly.
Though i have had some bad luck with elemental guns. Mostly cryo and shock. The few incendiary drops i got are rather weak, with the exception of the death ray you get in the nekrotafeio, which just has ridiculous melting damage, but is a very late game weapon
I love how the cylinders actually have the correct ammo capacity instead of having like a sniper that visually only has six shots but in actual usage has like, 11 or something lol
And if you shoot once and reload you only reload one bullet visually
I found a torgue filled lumper (, I think,) the other day. It's a 20 mag revolver with only 6 showing.
Yeah, it's mainly because magazines are now parts that can spawn on a weapon.
Edit: altering its stats as well
MBearr1221 you’ll still be able to increase mag size at times 😉
@@theblancmange1265 That always cheesed me off in BL1 to0 also as well. Combat shotguns (which were pump-actuated revolving single-action) with a "mag2" type of cylinder held 12 rounds despite the cylinder having eight chambers. And the Bulldog holds 20!
The iron sights are so much better than borderlands 2
Really wish they added fiber optic though. It's hard to see in dark areas
Or the lack there is with early weapon.
Funny how Paul Sage (Or was it Pitchford? It was some time ago) joked about how "the bullets actually go where you want them to" in reference to this. The boxy Tediore sight from BL2 has thankfully been buried alive.
Don't know what these people mean, Jakobs make you feel like a badass cowboy. No one needs to care about anything else, end of discussion.
Yep. As much fun as it is to break out the Gaige or Claptrap play-style with elemental mayhem, in every one of these games I come back to old-school Jakobs philosophy, making every shot count. It just feels right.
That's pretty awesome game design, really - everything from branding to execution. Those Jakobs commercials aren't just funny world-building, while the actual product feels roughly the same across the board: you play differently. That's good stuff.
Jakobs animations are on a whole different level conpared to bl2/tps, in fact every animation looks amazing.
Yeah the attention to det5 is amazing
The sound too. The revolver and the coach gun sounds punchy as hell, exactly how they should.
Yep, @@Fr0stbite1801, Derchlands, and DarkInfernape65! I really enjoyed the attention to detail that the Jakobs reloads reload exactly the spent round(s). I can't help but to feel as though this much attention to detail helps to breathe additional life to BL3.
Jakobs is my favorite brand. No bells, no whistles, no unnecessary elements. Just high damage and fire rate on your schedule. I’m gonna be a tech cowboy when I play as Zane
Sounds about right for me too, Joma Hawk.
Just imagine the possibilities the Jacobs gimmick has for legendaries! I hope we get a weapon that adds overkill damage from the initial shot to the damage of the ricocheted projectile. The initial crit could split into multiple projectiles upon ricochet. Or heck, let the ricocheted projectile be elemental! I want all the crazy effects in the world!
Some of that is confirmed to be in the game. There's a legendary Jakobs pistol that splits into a shotgun blast on crits. I dunno about overkill damage but there's also a sniper that explodes on contact. Jakobs also has the latest iteration of the Reaver/Fremington's Edge, with a ridiculous 20x zoom scope. Yeah, twenty times zoom...
Jakobs usually has a personal thing against elemental, but I could see some ricochet spread coming into play
They have quite a few elemental guns in this
Yes! I love the revolver feel in bl1 😍
Same, just started BL1 Remastered this week and the revolvers still feel so satisfying. The pistols aren’t great, but the revolvers have such a kick to them!
@@thomashewitt8104 In BL1, I basically just used a revolver and a sniper, with an SMG for backup if I was getting swarmed. It was amazing. Shame they combined the repeaters and revolvers together in BL2.
I absolutely LOVED Revolvers in BL1 and couldn't stand the new way they worked in BL2. I don't want to fan the hammer, I want a freaking handcannon. Or a Pestilent Defiler. Probably my favorite revolver to be honest.
Excuse me, did that Jakobs AR just make a M1 Garand style ping when you fired your last shot? If so then I'm even more in love now.
You will love the Flood. The Flood is a legendary Jacobs revolver that is fully automatic for the cost of 15% gun damage. That thing is a beast!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who wishes we got actual melee weapons.
An upgradeable melee weapon for each character. One that would be like any other loot. This would of made fisticuffs alot more interesting even in Ultimate Vault Hunter mode.
Hey, Derchlands, at about the 7:30 mark when you said that Jakobs guns feel about the same to BL2 watching your game play footage I think it's not "about the same as BL2", but rather Jakobs guns look, sound, and feel to be more refined than in BL2. That Jakobs guns seem to be even more specialized for the skillful players who don't want the "gimmicks" of elemental weapons.
With this in mind I do hope Gearbox finally separates the less than a second firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles from their much faster firing sniper rifles with unique bonuses exclusive to both "camps". Such as the much slower firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles can have a unique damage bonus such as a significantly higher crit damage bonus while the much faster firing rate Jakobs sniper rifles can have a compounding crit damage bonus, but within a stated time frame to get the compounding crit damage bonus. To me this would give me multiple reasons to *finally* give a darn about the much slower firing Jakobs sniper rifles. In BL2 I ignore them entirely even when I find them to have up to a vastly superior damage output.
I honestly quite like Jakobs not going all out on some bizarre gimmick. That's one of my concerns for BL3's weapon manufacturers.
@Shockheadd45 The way they're going about it, maliwan for instance just seems very avoidable, kinda like assault rifles in bl2
whats wrong with that? it give the guns and the manufacturers its uniqueness and keeps them new and interesting.
You must be drunk or not knowing what a Jakobs is about. Jakobs will always stick to it's traditional feel if they took that away it would be naked!
That muckamuck reminds me of the Maliwan sniper reload in bl2, my favorite reload in that game.
Oh man that revolver break action reload looks and sounds amazing. All the shell casing tinkling is something Jakobs revolvers really needed.
All of the Jakobs weapons look awesome, I think I even saw someone using a Winchester-type rifle, which is a welcome addition. I think the emphasis on aiming for those crits is a great way to set Jakobs even further apart from the other manufacturers, and it also serves to punish players who just spam poorly-aimed shots with pistols/revolvers at close range, for example, as the reload seems slower compared to other pistols.
For the Jakobs AR, hes holding the side grip because to shoot it, you have to spin the side grip, i think. In the last cut you can see the hand move up after unaimming, showing that his hand was moving while firing the gun.
Woo! Awesome to hear. Jacobs has my favorite FEEL of all of the Borderlands guns, even if they don't do as much as some of the other guns in terms of effects. Well, in BL2 and TPS... I haven't worked on BL1 yet (we're sort of working through backwards, but are trapped in replaying BL2 instead ...) This is very exciting :)
Love how you have to manually load each bullet or shell into some Jakobs guns one at a time, it gives off Red Dead Redemption 2 vibes.
Jakob’s is the best by ultimate favorite the iron willed nimble jack shotgun looks like a blunderbuss even has a blunderbuss like barrel and only a one shot I want it so much
FL4K apparently has a sniper in their released art, which makes it likely that we're getting a very sniping friendly playstyle. Maybe something awesome like "pet holds enemies in place and reveals their crit spots", or tanking while you hang back.
@Derch The ratches eat the dead bodies of the ones you kill and every body they eat gives them health back. If their health bar is full when they consume a dead body it gives them an additional health bar above their original and I've seen them stack to 3 or 4 health bars which is awesome and it almost reminded me of Kraggons in a way. The only problem is that it takes them so long to eat a body that they aren't really a formidable enemy but maybe at higher levels they be tougher.
I really like the Jakobs guns this time around.
I hope the BL1 styled mashers make a return. My favourite guns in the series.
At around 9:30 where you start shooting the Ratch Nest boss thing, the health bar you shred is labelled "Ratch Swarm" and not Ratch Nest like the main body, I'm guessing it spawned a mob or something you shot instead of the mini boss.
I like all this new stuff, it's exciting not knowing
@@Derchlands Yup! I can't wait to get my hands on this game. It's gonna get pushed to the front of my backlog, I'm not waiting!
With the retch nest resetting to full health, it looks like you were shooting an enemy behind him, notic how it goes from retch nest to retch swarm
Jakob: "When you want the job done- period."
That side grip is basically the trigger. It's a crank like the old school machine guns. Notice there's no trigger on the bottom of the weapon.
I'm just glad the Unforgiving is back so yeah that's a plus.
Very informative, good to know I can see parts in the inspector now. I really hope the cov and atlas guns are good as well.
Atlas guns depend a lot on their Tracker type. Some of them can tag crit spots and make all the followup shots home in for additional crits. They'll be handy for bosses with protected crit zones.
The sound effect on the crit is the most satisfying thing about jakobs
BIG IRON!
Love the look of Jakobs, nothing prettier than wood on a gun. Can't wait to play Fl4k and be a robot space trapper with my Jakobs 😂
Marshal guns are just amazing.
Alot have 1.3 second or less reload, and fire as fast as you click. And there is SIGNIFIGANTLY less sway than BL and BL2.
So you can chain crit shots really well
I'd like to see Dahl or CoV (bandit) next. they were my least favorite in 2 and I would like to see how they improved, if at all.
TheStargov from what i see, dahl's burst delay is still there 😐 i sure hope their alt fire modes are good
Chocx A Dahl weapon doesn’t necessarily have to have a Burst Mode, there could be full-automatic and semi-automatic switch weapons out there we don’t know off yet.
I loved Dahl smgs in bl2 tended to be my go to the tightness in 3 to 5 round burts just fits me
I believe the boss bug thing regenerated health by eating the bodies of the ones you killed.
Yeah it's a cool new mechanic
Naw if look closely when he did a lot of damage it was called ratch swarm but the one with full health was called ratch nest
Since I bought the game on Steam this week Jacob guns have been a consistant mainstay in my main's arsenal, I've definitely gotten a lot of bang for my buck with these guns.
I play a Jakob’s melee Krieg. Really fun. I hope I can pick up and get attached to one of the new vault hunters the same way
Definitely excited to try out Jakobs guns. Idk why the "fire as fast as you can pull the trigger" mechanic from 2 wasn't combined with Maliwan's charging mechanic. Wanna fire quickly, spam the trigger. Wanna charge for a more powerful shot, hold it down. There you go. It's essentially the PRL from RE4 at that point, and properly done for a game this fast-paced. That being said, perhaps they'd be better as is with some practice. I had a massive argument with a friend about this recently (I was the bigger dickhead in this instance), so it's on my mind still.
Anyway, onto Jakobs. I wasn't a massive fan of them in BL1 because of the horrifically slow fire rate and lack of elements. 2, took a while to warm up to them but I eventually loved them. I'm pretty excited for them in this.
Did I hear an m1 garand ping at the end of the ar mag
Always loved Jacobs with that extra damage...
Jakobs not being elemental in BL3 Jakobs: laughs in headsploader
My favourite Jacobs I seen was a assault rifle that actually was automatic, basically the character hand cranks to fire the gun, like a ye old 19th century hand cranked gatling gun.
Revolvers imo seem a little top heavy thanks to the overhang ridge on the top, quickly hip firing sounds insanely good though so at least that brings it back
That's exactly what Jakobs should be. Simple, no frills, just high accuracy, high damage, high recoil single-shot western-inspired weapons. Glad to see most (if not all) Jakobs guns DONT have alt fire modes.
That being said, I wouldn't be competely averse to seeing some alt-fire Jakobs guns that still fit the aesthetic - like a LeMat styled revolver.
Some Guy in a Waistcoat yeah i dont mind legendaries that do something different, as long as it stays true to old-fashioned weaponry from the 1800’s or earlier. Maybe even WW2 themed stuff actually.
For instance, there’s a Jakobs rifle that’s full auto, but they crank it like a gatling gun, so it still fits the Jakobs style
let’s be honest the first 2 playthroughs is literally grabbing whatever gun.
We’ll end up finding a perfect gun in each manufacturer. Endgame is fun and going for legendaries but it’s also fun picking up everything and seeing how they shoot. But gotta spam golden chests if they are there lol
I want a crit-spec skill tree. Loved playing zero Critical asention, Bore, and all the jazz. Skullmashzr, Maggie, unforgiven, Hawkeye (which I modded for uvhm).
I love the old Jakobs :) mixing with a slag Sandhawk and a pimp, good fun.
The big ratch nest thing eats dead ratches, that is why it heales.
Simple yes, but effective. Remember, if it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs.
Can't wait to see what they do with S&S!
I hope S&S is back. So many things went missing from the first game in the second game, and even the Pre-Sequel wasn't much good at explaining the sudden disappearance of the MIA loot manufacturers.
This looks like it's going to be really fun to play in March.
Loving this series!
I love the sound of that hand gun.
There's 3 different legendary jakobs pistols in BL3. There was only 1 in both BL2 and BL1. I wonder if many other gun types will be like this
That we know of
Favorite guns I've seen so far and that's saying alot because they all look good for sure. I even have some faith that Maliwan will be better than we think once we get used to them or some tweaks are made to them. I've always agreed with you that slow firing bolt snipers are very fun but were never effective because they were too slow for the damage but now I'm really looking forward to giving them a try again.
Thx for covering jakobs. Love their guns 😄
1- yes, Flak needs to be the sniper character, the first 2 things that i knew when i saw the BL3 trailer was that Flak and Jakobs guns looked awesome.
2- the Jakobs enhanced crit is obviously staying, but the bullet ricochet kinda... it feels off from the Jakobs theme like, precision, high raw damage(crits), low fire rate, etc.
i, and i repeat myself, I would have made something like variable zoom, using the new fire-mode switch, which increases maybe crit damage, or does more damage while consuming more bullets
idk, what do you think?
I think it fits with the gun slinger, and jakobs we're slow in bl1 but fast in bl2. Gun slingers fan the hammer so I like fast
@@Derchlands well yes, but i think that ricochet was the last thing they should have thought though, idk what i would have done to so whatever.
A lot of spaghetti westerns had the kill 2 people with one bullet thing
I'm liking the new Jakobs AR variants. Dat ping tho. Also, stripper clips. They're really going whole hog on them being just the "fudd gun" manufacturer, which is pretty nice honestly.
My favorite brand
Me too
@@Derchlands what you thought specifically about the muckamuck?
It hit really hard like it should, you can use use it pretty fast. Felt just like the bl2 one
@@Derchlands now the only thing I need is flak to be a sniper hahah
Jakobs is my favorite Bran after Hyperion shotguns.
Those rat/roach things that "magically" healed themselves by eating their own dead friends to regain that health. Was curious if one would evolve into something bigger, but that never happened for me (game is still new too me, so here is the hope that things can increase in size and scope). Thought I'd share that with you, thought it was interesting.
I considered melee weapons myself, but if you think about it.
if youre a melee character, every gun you find would be useless. (but not really)
and as any other character if you found a melee weapon it's basically useless to you, in every way possible.
a gun with a blade is useful to both, still.
JAKOBS HYPE! LOVE YOU!
Was tyreen using lilths powers to teleport them enemies
The crank-action assault rifle works well as an automatic weapon for Jakobs while retaining the wild west theme, but it looks like a fishing rod that kills fishes instead of catching them. And I'm guessing we'll get to use two types of Jakobs AR in BL3, the new automatic crank-action AR and the spam fire semi-auto AR from BL2/ TPS.
Watching at work, cant wait to get home
Do the Jakob's even have proper triggers or they do the whole slip trigger thing?
Jakobs finally makes *LEVERGUNS! \8-D* Nuthin' more fun than a levergun.
1:48 What's the point of having a cartridge holder strapped to the side of a top-break single-action revolver if your character always reloads using a speedloader? And why does your character reload "wrong-handed?" It takes longer that way, therefore it defeats the whole point of the top-break design (which is fast and easy reloads).
2:49 Some Jake revolvers look like they're based on the Schofield (the ones that are top-break single-action), but that one looks like it draws influence from a ye olde open-top revolver like the Colt 1871.
3:24 With the hammer, you can probably swap between double-action and single-action (judging from some of the gameplay I've seen). I imagine single-action is more accurate (and more stylish), whereas double-action is faster. But since when do revolvers have magazines? I know, I know. We can just assume that "magazine" is used across all weapons types and also refers to revolver cylinders.
3:35 Notice the different cocking methods. Dig it! Fan the hammer while not aiming, but use a more precise method while aiming. The preferred technique with single-actions is called "cross-thumb" which is when you use the thumb of your support hand to cock the hammer.
5:34 No sights? What gives?! Haven't they figured out by now that we want functional sights on *all* weapons?!
6:19 I get what they're going for with the cockeyed scope, but it's mechanically pointless to have to flip the scope to the side to reload. Why not have the rifle feed from a diagonal magazine to justify the cockeyed scope? Or how about having both ir0n sight and a cockeyed scope so we can use combination sights like Dahl? That would make perfect sense on a safari rifle and I'm pretty sure Sir Hammerlock would back me up on this. I loved Whitting's Elephant Gun in BL1 and the Buffalo in BL2 (both manually operated Jakobs safari rifles with plain 'ol ir0n sights).
7:30 Top-break like a Schofield or Webley, but as I mentioned before, why the "wrong-handed" reload? Professionals agree that, whenever applicable, it's always preferable to reload with your support hand. The only possible exception would be with a gun that's noticeably front-heavy. Of if you shoot left-handed (like me), a revolver with a cylinder that swings out to the left.
8:29 Well, we can agree to diagree. I still say the "wrong-handed" reload defeats the point of a top-break design. I see right-handed shooters do that a lot with modern double-action revolvers with cylinders that swing out to the left and it drives me up a wall! Part of the reason is because, as a left-handed shooter (due to eye dominance), I understand that I need to modify my techniques because most controls are optimized for northpaws. So it makes no sense for a northpaw to be doing things "backerds" if they're using a device that was optimized fer them ta begin with.
*Note:* I like the 5-shot cylinder. I'd hazard an educated guess that fewer chambers means bigger and badder bullets.
8:32 And yet it's a 5-shooter. Seems like a 5-shooter would be a Magnum or big-bore, whereas a 7- or 8-shooter would pack less punch per shot.
9:42 That Pritchard style bayonet should be mounted farther forward with that barrel. That barrel looks like it has a muzzle brake accessory which is probably why the bayonet doesn't mount farther forward on it. But look at it! You wouldn't be able to stab but two things with that sucker - Jack and squat - and "Jack" left town.
11:16 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is the deal with that reload animation?! If the scope is cockeyed anyway, why not just make the rifle top-fed with a straight-pull bolt-action mechanism and leave the scope stationary?! That would even allow for combination sights since you could have a scope on one side and ir0n sights on the other. Alternatively, you could have ir0n sights on top of the scope. That scope is based on an old-timey design, so it's long and thin, which means there'd be a nice broad sight radius if there were ir0n sights on top of it.
11:32 If it's not full-auto or burst-fire, it's not an "assault rifle." Jakobs "assault rifles" in BL2, since they were semi-auto, could be more accurate described as "battle rifles."
12:32 It must be crank-operated. You wouldn't be able to tell while you're aiming through the scope.
Do they still have a negative crit multiplier on ARs
The pistol and rifle look really good
Can you finish this series
I hope they balance the higher difficulties so Jakobs will keep delivering.
Can't wait to play for myself.
They were great at endgame in tps, and many we're great in bl2. I'm not worried
Wait you don't like the most op character in the presequel?
Hopefully Jakobs actually has some use for high lvl gameplay this go around. In 2 they were monstrous in the first playthrough and then fell off pretty hard barring impossible to find weapons like bekah.
Great video , i hope in bl3 there are no guns that lie like in bl2 all the revolvers said fires as fast as you can pull the trigger but a few had a fire cap idk why it was like that
It was fire as fast as you can pull the trigger up to the fire rate listed on the card.
@@Derchlands wow, i never knew that , i always thought it was just a lie or some kind of bug , thanks for informing me on that , i am shocked that there is still stuff i am finding out about this series that i did not know , it so awesome
Most had such a high rate most people couldn't hit it, so with things like the Rex it was a lot slower
I my opinion they feel good to shoot, something about it just feels nice.
I disagree on bladed weapons being a waste, especially on Jakobs weapons. Bladed revolvers I feel are a great asset to the arsenal, particularly with melee strong characters. Many is the time I've used Zer0 up close and after a head shot to an enemy delivered the deathblow in damn near the same action. I think Jakobs doesn't need to outfit elemental damage with shots being as they're so powerful. But I would like to see the game kinda branch out with different muzzle fixtures. Maybe something like a serrated barrel end, for example.
The only question I care about. Will it have 3rd person?
I hate how when you run it has the little Arrow in the middle of the screen.
agreed
so if the down d-pad is used for alt fire, then how do i change to the 4th weapon slot?
So their is Jakobs pistols AND Jakobs revolvers?
They are all revolvers but it looks like depending on parts some are faster and some slower
I like the new sounds.
I wonder if bekah is still here, aswell as pimpernel (you didnt say anything about it on maliwan vid :| )
edt. what is the next manufacturer? (and i hope you got smthn to tell about children of the vault and old-new-atlas) :D
Dahl next
@@Derchlands the most hated manufacturer (for me) in BL2, i hated this burst on sniper rifles while zoomed :D
Still love sand hawk tho..
Well you are going to love them now
@@Derchlands you've got me thrilled :D
Like the bl2 revolver sound more though really sounded like it would hurt
FL4K is a Heavy?
I’d feel a little dumb if my gun had a bayonet and instead I pull out my brick hammer
I get that you want fl4k to be a sniper, but I hope he isn't forced into it because I see pets and I say yes, and I don't want to lose that to the need to long range alone.
There are 3 trees, alot of people played zero without sniping
With the major differences in skill tree's of the shown characters you won't have to snipe if you don't want to
If it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs!
anyone else wanna see the unkempt harolds make a return?
retro futuristic ?! fuck yeah
and can we talk about how dope scopes are in bl3?
It's so good to be a borderlands fan! 😁
I love the looks too
Love these great video's
Been waiting on this one