Just as they did every step of the way with every project Elon's been involved in. He dares do what others claim impossible or too hard, they laugh at him, then after he succeeds they follow him. Several examples within SpaceX, such as Falcon reusability, but also Tesla, Neuralink, etc.
@@ThreeheadedbeastmodeWould it also be hindering me if a cop pulls me over for going 200mph down the freeway because I wanted to get home faster? You dont get to break the rules and endanger peoples lives because YOU want to get somewhere faster. Had spacex just waited for approval, he wouldn't be in this mess.
Heres a cool little detail i think most know since we’re all nerds, during the intro of both this and Starbase updates, you may see coordinates at the bottom of the screen like at 0:18. The ones that they pause on lead to Cape Canaveral’s LC-39A and for StarBase updates, the very centre of Tower 1’s OLM. A nice little easter egg for us nerds to find
Nobody saying they’re not doing their job, they’re not doing it fast enough and this could compromise our national security. Nevertheless, SpaceX has the highest safety record.
I HOPE people start copying what SpaceX is doing. Someone needs to take these big ideas even further, and more importantly, someone needs to compete with SpaceX.
😂It's not like opening up another Costco competitor. You need massive funding, years of trial and failure. It's taken SpaceX over 20 to get where it is today. It is all possible by Elon self teaching himself about rocket design and building engines. He is the master brains behind SpaceX thinking outside the box, developing reusable rockets. So far he is the only one able to pull this off. If it wasn't for his ideas, everyone else would still be using one time rockets. Look at Boeing, still using 1970 design costing hundreds of billions of dollars in a one time use that had years head start and billions of dollars more and they are still sitting on the ground with a crew capsule unsafe for humans. Look at Blue Origin. Jeff Bezos knows almost nothing about building rockets, he is out traveling the world on his $500,000,000.00 yacht while Elon was sleeping on a couch in a warehouse, working 20 hours a day. If you don't have that type of leadership that know what they are doing and use your money to buy help, you really don't have anyone taking ownership and you end up like Boeing, Blue Origin and other black holes of failure and waisted tax dollars. Now there are some newer start up companies with owner/builder with hands on experience as mentioned, but again, it is ten's of years before they will be where SpaceX is today.
Yes! Earth needs space companies not run by a drug-crazed extreme right wing megalomaniac. It's too important for someone like Musk has morphed into in the last few years.
Copying? No. Competition? Yes. Hoping Blue Origin can be that competitor since they seem to have the closest budget to SpaceX so it's the most realistic possibility for fair competition
Firefly catching the booster at this point is a hoot and quite the stretch. Not even fully developed yet and no where near flight ready. Why would they even say this. Miles is miles offffff on this one. Cmon man!
@@starmanxvi what your stating is a tad different then taking the leap to a controlled accurate landing catch statement. Poor thing you’re trying really hard but you know I’m right. Laugh a lot out loud.
The MBA Gryojet Pistol (Shoots Rocket Bullets) is a very Intresting gun Engineering wise and how it could be shot in space not necessarily designed for space exactly
Stop HARPing on the subject! There's no (Gerald) Bull in the idea of it, but that's not Germaine (Vengeance Weapon Three) to your comment. [It's late. I'm tired. Crappy puns ensue]
I think it's great that companies are now not afraid to experiment and try new things even they do appear to be wild. Like the age of sail giving way to the age of steam.
It’s a good question. They’re not certified for seven. NASA asked them to prove out four. That’s what they can do without further validation of the life support and other systems. Could they/would they if lives were at risk? Absolutely. We all do all sorts of things in those circumstances.
Whittaker made clear that the FAA delays were being applied consecutively rather than in parallel or simultaneously. He further claimed that one of the delays were due to SpaceX *_not obtaining an Industrial Waste license,_* not due to current safety concerns or endangerment of wildlife. It is already clear that sonic booms created *_higher in altitude_* by the booster, or a different location drop of the hot-staging ring, do not warrant any hazard analysis on behalf of wildlife. In other words, these are *_punitive_* delays by the FAA, imposed on SpaceX since the fines were not working.
The section on Longshot Space, is a 're discovery' of tests done at Redstone Arsenal in the 90's, where their objective was to test hypersonic aerodynamics in the Mach 7+ ranges of a projectile, and was reported in 'Air and Space' magazine. The article also stated that a scaled up version, could potentially place cargo into orbit for about $1.50/Lb. Their method used a 'ram accelerator' as part of the initial impulse and ignition of the propellant.
Are you referring to HARP? Redstone was an army project for missile development and testing which led to the development of so of our current missile defense measures. There was a lot of problems with heating and structural integrity with HARP. They certainly wouldn’t be able to put a human into space with this method. The payload being launched into LEO just needs to be able to exceed 50 plus g’s, tolerate the atmospheric drag and heating while maintaining structural integrity.
I independently thought if a cable catch method a few years ago, and to slow it down the plan was to use like a connected weight system like a heavy chain. The farther it is pulled up , the heavier it becomes.
Europa Clipper's fuel mass, something where the units didn't define the design! 🎉 It always annoys me when I see a design with round numbers (with the exception of outside constraints driving the dimension).
The FAA Director wants SpaceX to have a safety program like Boeing my God I hope that don’t happen. Boeing pays off oligarch. SpaceX pushes the boundaries of what’s possible! Boy has left astronaut stranded. SpaceX takes them there and back routinely.
I feel like the the arbitrary 30 day delays on something that doesn't take 30 days to evaluate is a calculated move. In the same way as comparing everything to Boeing (admittedly the primary subject of the hearing) was just diverting from actual reasoning. (And implying all the negative implications of the Boeing concerns).
Delay the Crew Dragon launch. Tell the FAA that flying with two crew members instead of four is a significant change from the previously licensed flights so the rescue needs to go through the licensing process again. Mention this is more related to actual safety than sonic booms already approved or a different splashdown location of the hot staging ring on starship.
Companies don't become successful by deliberately sabotaging profitable contract ventures. That's not how the business world works, you pick your battles.
Dumb. SpaceX would not exist if it weren't for government money. SpaceX didn't follow the regulations and got fined. The fine is a rounding error in their income statement. Deal with it. The delay is a follow on from the previous issues. SpaceX is changing things, and expecting the FAA to approve it immediately. The FAA only has a few subject matter experts, who are busy, so it gets added to the pile. SpaceX gets looked at in a first-come-first-served queue.
Thanks for the update. I would like to know wetther that huge chinese launch vessel (Dong Fang Han Tian Gang Barge, 14:58 ) is crewed during launch? Maybe in a kind of on onboard bunker?
Ehhh... I'm sure they're disappointed. However, what I think you were trying to say and convey, is that they're certainly not going to complain about its problems since it got them there safely enough, and has now rewarded them with quite the nice vacation. 😉
Regarding the FAA. President Reagan said in a speech, Aug 12, 1986 "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. "
What space-x does in 2 months the FAA does in 2 years. The FAA is compromising national security. They do more damage to our space program then our enemies could do to us.
@@_philosopher_00 the rocket was completely fine. Atlas V is a great rocket. But if you have issues with Boeing's launch, you can talk to NASA about it as they understood the risks well and had backup plans as well. But for private launches like Starship? The FAA is involved and they have lots of rules you need to follow, that clearly SpaceX didn't.
@@sarkaranish These are unmanned test flights on the gulf and over the ocean! How can you compare this to a fully functional airliner??? FAA is overstepping their authority for political reasons.
you would think that the guy who is building the biggest and possibly most important vehicle in history would know when to be diplomatic. much as i love musk's vision, he does seem to have a really weird outlook on life, politics and just how to conduct ones self. anyway, i hope the next launch is soon not later. let's get on with mars.
Show me a truly innovative and dynamic person who is totally "normal". They cannot be "normal" or they would never have done anything outside the norm.
Regardless of his character I'm just glad we have someone actually moving things forward as opposed to the 50 years of - at best - stagnation we had before. I had kids books in the 80s talking about how NASA was working towards sending people to Mars and really want to see that actually happening in my lifetime. I don't have to like the guy making it happen.
What do you mean "blame"? Since when are we making it out like it's a us versus them dynamic? The FAA has been operating the same way for the last 4 years. It's never been fast but now all of a sudden everyone is up in arms?
The Nazis built a device similar to this 8:27 in northern France to fire bombs at the UK. They called it the “Kanone V3”. Quite an interesting concept, and luckily for everyone it was destroyed before completion.
Gerald Bull was building a cannon capable of launching a payload into orbit in 1990 called Project Babylon "supergun", But he was assassinated, most likely by secret service not wanting it used as a weapon. Politicians have always been fearful of hypersonic cannons.
When NASA asks for it and pays for the validation of the systems. Alternatively, SpaceX could fund it. But they’d still have to work with NASA to fly two additional astronauts.
I realize you are a paid, professional, narrator..... But I believe I could listen to you read a dictionary. Only God could give you a voice so easy to listen to and I'm 70 years old so I've heard a few voices.
Paraty withg Boeing and Space X all being equal honest All Boeing planes spavce systems should be halted from from flying untill every plane as been checked for any faults along with Wild lifem nchecks at all airports and polution noise checks across the take off and approuch paths.
Every FAA regulation is written in blood. Bureaucrats are lazy and don't want to write a law. They only write a law to fix something where people died. Hardly "frivolous"...
I'm betting that Firefly will submit their landing attempt paperwork in a timely manner and not sit on it until it is too late like that other company.
You truly believe they sit on their paperwork? No. The problem is that the FAA doesn't work with the same pace and efficiency as a rocket company does. Zootopia got it right! Government employees take their jobs for granted. They don't care about expediency as long as they get their paychecks.
@Pranav_Bhamidipati SpaceX knew it was planning to land the booster on the pad when they built the first tower. It was not in any of their environmental plans or license requests. Waiting over a year before starting the approval may be considered sitting on their hands. Not submitting the paperwork after announcing it to the public could be considered. Waiting until a couple of weeks before the launch certainly is. Any other company would have started the approval process over a year ago.
@@user-fr3hy9uh6y It takes more than just a vague theoretical idea to apply for a license though. The details of the flight trajectory and re-entry boom analysis need to be submitted for an FAA decision. You can't know those details before flying test flights that gather that data. It takes months of planning to set up the parameters for a new test flight. I believe they applied for the license as soon as the plans were finalised.
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati Public employees get paid for 40 hours per week. They are lower paid than private sector employees. If SpaceX wants to pay for more FAA experts to be on call, I'm sure the FAA will do so, for several million in fees.
9:00 firing a spaceship out of a gun might sound crazy, but five or ten years ago i was saying how daft humans would sound explaining to aliens who come to visit that we got off the planet by lighting a big fire under a can. there just HAS to be a better way of travelling in space than setting fire to stuff. i'm hoping it will be some kind of warp drive, but anything has to be better than combusting stuff.
How many successful launches have been made since 1960? This is a bar bet. Half say less than 1,000 , Others say just over 1K. We are counting all countries. What do you guys say?
well i do know elon has 6000 satellites up their already and (i think) he's broken the 100 launchers in a year figure...the records seem to be about how many safe returns and reuses he's doing these days. i caved and wiki'd it: So far, SpaceX has launched 92 rockets in 2024, 89 Falcon 9, one Falcon Heavy and two Starship. i'm surprised at the answer: over 11,000 but i guess it depends on the definition of "rocket launch" i imagined folks with those RC controlled things....
A lot more than 1,000. Average number of launches per year has been about 100 since the middle of the 1960s which would translate in about 6,000 launch attempts in that time. Even if only 90% were successful, that's still over 5,000 successful launches
@@jeffreypierson2064 Ok. the passing of inspection has been done and being held from previous things is a delay and all they need to do with spacex is either tell them ok or not if the sky is clear of planes for them to launch. quit delaying.
Eh, the FAA just got bit in the butt real bad for not keeping Boeing on the leash. A bunch of people died because of it. It only makes sense that they are going to make spacex do everything squeaky clean and by the book. Plus, while spacex may have thousands and thousands of employees, the FAA may only have a handful of people to work this mega project.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines launching falcon 9 from a non approved control room, launching falcon 9 and using a propellant farm that was not approved and for starship usuing a deluge system that wasn’t fully approved federally
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Good on you for covering what Whittaker said. We need more objective critical assessment of the PR games SpaceX is playing against the FAA and other government agencies. The stacking is such an obvious pressure tactic against the FAA, and they've done it multiple times before. And almost all of TH-camrs keep falling for it and marching to their tune. Or is it that they aren't game to criticise Musk for fear of cruelling access? Well that would be understandable given Musk has become so vindictive against any critiques. Whittaker made it clear in his answers that SpaceX failed to get multiple required permits including sonic boom, launched without a permit, and more. He made it clear that the delays are SpaceX′s own making. ″Is there a path to move up the launch?″ ″Complying with the regulations would be the best path.″
Go organise a DEI seminar instead, Ashley. Engineering is for grown-ups and you will quickly find out how much weight your self-serving opinions count for in this field. Stick to HR committees, long term forecasting and public relations, where empirical results don't matter. Otherwise, there are always public phone booths to clean, toothpaste tubes to photograph in the moonlight and other pursuits suitable for you noble Golgafrinchans.
People were screeching about sonic booms from Falcon 9 before that rocket started landing at Cape Canaveral. It turned out to be a non-issue. The FAA jackasses are simply grasping at straws.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Where else in the world would he have the capital, the engineers, and the infrastructure to build SpaceX 2.0? In Russia, his capital would be stolen by oligarchs. In China, he would be disappeared for not playing politics. In Western Europe, there is no land that he could build a launch facility. In any other part of the world, save India, you would be missing the engineers. India is a remote possibility, but it would not be done for another century.
Elysia in 2034: SpaceX is planning for it's 200th landing on Mars as the first city on Mars 'Elonium' reaches over one million in population. Thanks to the discovery of water the city is now officially self sustaining.
Nah, too limiting once Musk is also operating on Mars. You can bet he's already dreaming of how he can have the first person on mars posting to x from the surface.
FFA officials are deliberately slowing down Spacex's progress, they believe that Spacex will become a monopoly in space launches, but this is not the case. Spacex is building something that is radically different from everything that humanity has built in the past, a Starship is not just a rocket for launches, it is an interstellar ship that is designed for other purposes. No other US company is building something like this, all companies competing with Space x are designed only for launches in the near Earth region and are not designed to deliver a large volume of cargo to neighboring planets. The real competitor for them is the already built Falcon 9. Therefore, FFA, it is impractical and harmful to slow down the construction of an interstellar ship, because we have been marking time in one place for a long time, and we repeat all those achievements that humanity has achieved a long time ago.
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati That's true, however the payload can be more frequent and would be magnitudes cheaper. It also wouldn't be "very small", some SSTO concepts should carry multiple tonnes.
Michael Whitaker = dodgy. He misrepresented the facts about the fuel farm relocation proximity to habitation, and the claims about safety reviews due to sonic boom effects and impact of heat tiles changes are very weak justifications for the delay.
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NSF disappoints me to the Max with their PRO-FAA stance and obvious bias. Why are they Taking a Side on this? I’m not going to watch the Flame Trench for “more debate” because last week all we got was a one-sided attack on SpaceX. They laid out the whole argument on why SpaceX is BAD and needs to be held accountable. Ridiculous. As was the insults hurled at commenters. Hey people, maybe don’t attack your own fans for having a different opinion, drawing a different conclusion, OR just waiting to get more information. Maybe SpaceX is breaking the law. Let’s see the proof. An FAA fine is not proof, only a serious accusation. Pointing out the party affiliation of the congressman who questioned the FAA is further evidence of bias. These actions by FAA are questionable. Government doesn’t always act with altruistic motives. Let it play out. I am left to assume for them it has become political because Elon is supporting a candidate NSF doesn’t like. Not a good look. Hey, newsflash NSF-not every fan of space is a woke leftist. I love their space coverage. Please stick to that. I’m very disappointed that a channel I support and appreciate has proven it Cannot be objective in this, thinks its own fans are idiots, and smirks with superiority when saying so.
Maybe consider you might be the one with the anti FAA bias and political bias. NSF explicitly FORBIDS political rambling in their live chats and is specifically not political. The irony is YOU are the one making this political. Defending the FAA or criticizing SpaceX here is not liberal or conservative.
@@Barthhhelona I have considered that, actually. I came to the conclusion, which you might see in my comment, that we might find out more later, that SpaceX broke a law. There are plenty of people looking at this and saying the FAA Is in the wrong. Maybe they are. But that’s not presented. At all. There’s no balance in this report. There’s no “let’s wait to find out more”. Just the implication the the congressman was wrong to question the FAA. That SpaceX was wrong to reply to the congressman instead of the FAA with no proof that they didn’t. You’re free to believe I’m wrong, and I’m free to call out the bias I see.
Administration delays vs safety delay? Adminsitration wasn't happey when Elon back the DJT campaign. Sudeenly, they have another problem? How convenient for Boeing, their prodigal child, perhaps
@AdamMeaney-zs6zw what god? 6 myth, pity people don't study more and believe ancient stories created to control the gullible and stupid and others of that ilk.
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They doubted SpaceX but now everybody's copying them😂😂
And the FAA is hindering them.
Well, it’s not like spacex put patents on their rockets.
Just as they did every step of the way with every project Elon's been involved in. He dares do what others claim impossible or too hard, they laugh at him, then after he succeeds they follow him. Several examples within SpaceX, such as Falcon reusability, but also Tesla, Neuralink, etc.
@@ThreeheadedbeastmodeWould it also be hindering me if a cop pulls me over for going 200mph down the freeway because I wanted to get home faster? You dont get to break the rules and endanger peoples lives because YOU want to get somewhere faster. Had spacex just waited for approval, he wouldn't be in this mess.
@@ryanthompson3737 It isn’t even a safety issue that SpaceX is dealing with. It’s environmental I think.
Thanks Elysia for another awesome TWIS! & thank you NSF!
Wow!! BRAVO!! Congratulations to the Starship team on their fifth successful test! 🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂
Let's wish the Starship team good luck on their fifth launch!🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Heres a cool little detail i think most know since we’re all nerds, during the intro of both this and Starbase updates, you may see coordinates at the bottom of the screen like at 0:18. The ones that they pause on lead to Cape Canaveral’s LC-39A and for StarBase updates, the very centre of Tower 1’s OLM. A nice little easter egg for us nerds to find
My favorite Space presenter! I swear you should also be a voice actor. You would do well :)
I'm Polish and when she speaks it is very easy to understand. Not always it happens when others American speak.
This is the updates i prefer then the other NSF videos, jmo
Hi Elysia great explanation. Thank very much and NSF team wonderful. ❤❤❤
Nobody saying they’re not doing their job, they’re not doing it fast enough and this could compromise our national security. Nevertheless, SpaceX has the highest safety record.
they’re ridiculously overworked
@@clayel1 then get more people! It’s a mater of national security!
@@ThreeheadedbeastmodeThat requires funding from the federal government which is controlled by congress which is majority republican.
@@ryanthompson3737 no it's not
@@ryanthompson3737 The House is Republican, but the Senate and the Presidency are both Democrat controlled and they HATE Musk.
I HOPE people start copying what SpaceX is doing. Someone needs to take these big ideas even further, and more importantly, someone needs to compete with SpaceX.
Exactly. Economies of scale and healthy competition are the principles by which we get quality services for cheap prices.
😂It's not like opening up another Costco competitor. You need massive funding, years of trial and failure. It's taken SpaceX over 20 to get where it is today. It is all possible by Elon self teaching himself about rocket design and building engines. He is the master brains behind SpaceX thinking outside the box, developing reusable rockets. So far he is the only one able to pull this off. If it wasn't for his ideas, everyone else would still be using one time rockets. Look at Boeing, still using 1970 design costing hundreds of billions of dollars in a one time use that had years head start and billions of dollars more and they are still sitting on the ground with a crew capsule unsafe for humans. Look at Blue Origin. Jeff Bezos knows almost nothing about building rockets, he is out traveling the world on his $500,000,000.00 yacht while Elon was sleeping on a couch in a warehouse, working 20 hours a day. If you don't have that type of leadership that know what they are doing and use your money to buy help, you really don't have anyone taking ownership and you end up like Boeing, Blue Origin and other black holes of failure and waisted tax dollars. Now there are some newer start up companies with owner/builder with hands on experience as mentioned, but again, it is ten's of years before they will be where SpaceX is today.
People need to ignore SpaceX's terrible ideas...said me in 2020. Look where we are at now. Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to it.
Yes! Earth needs space companies not run by a drug-crazed extreme right wing megalomaniac.
It's too important for someone like Musk has morphed into in the last few years.
Copying? No. Competition? Yes. Hoping Blue Origin can be that competitor since they seem to have the closest budget to SpaceX so it's the most realistic possibility for fair competition
Firefly catching the booster at this point is a hoot and quite the stretch. Not even fully developed yet and no where near flight ready. Why would they even say this. Miles is miles offffff on this one. Cmon man!
Trying to excite new investors, I guess...
You could say that exact sentence about Starship 2 years ago.
With that argument, why even say how much payload it can carry, or what fuel it can use, or the planned launch cadence? lol
@@starmanxvi what your stating is a tad different then taking the leap to a controlled accurate landing catch statement. Poor thing you’re trying really hard but you know I’m right. Laugh a lot out loud.
@@jimmyjam4851 can you remind me what arthur c clarke said about people making statements about the impossible?
Thanks Elysia and NSF team.
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Elysia and NSF, y'all rock! Peace
Anyone else want fire Flys first rocket to be called serenity or leaf on the wind?
good idea, but by the looks of it they are already knee deep in firefly/serenity references. i hope one is called "companion" cos i love hookers.
personally i want to get my ticket by claiming : have spacesuit, will travel.
the idea of putting stuff into space with a big gun is a OLD idea. The gun that was used still exists (it is in a state of disrepair).
The MBA Gryojet Pistol (Shoots Rocket Bullets) is a very Intresting gun Engineering wise and how it could be shot in space not necessarily designed for space exactly
Stop HARPing on the subject! There's no (Gerald) Bull in the idea of it, but that's not Germaine (Vengeance Weapon Three) to your comment.
[It's late. I'm tired. Crappy puns ensue]
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I think it's great that companies are now not afraid to experiment and try new things even they do appear to be wild. Like the age of sail giving way to the age of steam.
Yes. UTC please. The choice of navigators.
Thank you Mr.Kiley.
"...later, in the future,..." that's a new one. I like it. @7:50
I don’t understand why 2 crew members were kicked off the crew 9 mission! Isn’t dragon supposed to be able to accommodate 7 crew members?
I don’t either but I have faith that others have fully vetted these options
It’s a good question. They’re not certified for seven. NASA asked them to prove out four. That’s what they can do without further validation of the life support and other systems.
Could they/would they if lives were at risk? Absolutely. We all do all sorts of things in those circumstances.
Aha! I got you! You got so nervous answering the questions from congressmen! 🏃♂
Whittaker made clear that the FAA delays were being applied consecutively rather than in parallel or simultaneously. He further claimed that one of the delays were due to SpaceX *_not obtaining an Industrial Waste license,_* not due to current safety concerns or endangerment of wildlife.
It is already clear that sonic booms created *_higher in altitude_* by the booster, or a different location drop of the hot-staging ring, do not warrant any hazard analysis on behalf of wildlife.
In other words, these are *_punitive_* delays by the FAA, imposed on SpaceX since the fines were not working.
A political stunt.
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
The section on Longshot Space, is a 're discovery' of tests done at Redstone Arsenal in the 90's, where their objective was to test hypersonic aerodynamics in the Mach 7+ ranges of a projectile, and was reported in 'Air and Space' magazine. The article also stated that a scaled up version, could potentially place cargo into orbit for about $1.50/Lb. Their method used a 'ram accelerator' as part of the initial impulse and ignition of the propellant.
Are you referring to HARP? Redstone was an army project for missile development and testing which led to the development of so of our current missile defense measures. There was a lot of problems with heating and structural integrity with HARP.
They certainly wouldn’t be able to put a human into space with this method. The payload being launched into LEO just needs to be able to exceed 50 plus g’s, tolerate the atmospheric drag and heating while maintaining structural integrity.
I independently thought if a cable catch method a few years ago, and to slow it down the plan was to use like a connected weight system like a heavy chain. The farther it is pulled up , the heavier it becomes.
awesome earrings 💕
a bit of an amateur question here: why doesn't superheavy / starship have legs for landing like falcon boosters? too big?
Every pound they use for landing legs is a pound they can't use for payload.
Because these ro gets no where near the final design. These 'disposable' until prototypes.
If it lands on the moon or Mars I guess it will need them.
@@mathization i think it's true that superheavy doesn't need them but starship is the one that will need them because it will be going to moon/mars?
I'm not sure what will land on the moon or Mars, many years away.m@@cadenhowlett
Europa Clipper's fuel mass, something where the units didn't define the design! 🎉
It always annoys me when I see a design with round numbers (with the exception of outside constraints driving the dimension).
The FAA Director wants SpaceX to have a safety program like Boeing my God I hope that don’t happen. Boeing pays off oligarch. SpaceX pushes the boundaries of what’s possible!
Boy has left astronaut stranded. SpaceX takes them there and back routinely.
Did no one at NASA see the movie? Europa is off limits!!!
All these worlds are yours
Only landings. It's a clipper.
FAA drama is pure politics imo, its plain dirty
To be beautiful means to be yourself. You do not need to be accepted by others. You need to accept yourself.
I feel like the the arbitrary 30 day delays on something that doesn't take 30 days to evaluate is a calculated move. In the same way as comparing everything to Boeing (admittedly the primary subject of the hearing) was just diverting from actual reasoning. (And implying all the negative implications of the Boeing concerns).
Delay the Crew Dragon launch. Tell the FAA that flying with two crew members instead of four is a significant change from the previously licensed flights so the rescue needs to go through the licensing process again. Mention this is more related to actual safety than sonic booms already approved or a different splashdown location of the hot staging ring on starship.
Companies don't become successful by deliberately sabotaging profitable contract ventures. That's not how the business world works, you pick your battles.
I think if they have anyway of increasing what is charged for the dragon trips, they should do that.
Dumb. SpaceX would not exist if it weren't for government money. SpaceX didn't follow the regulations and got fined. The fine is a rounding error in their income statement. Deal with it.
The delay is a follow on from the previous issues. SpaceX is changing things, and expecting the FAA to approve it immediately. The FAA only has a few subject matter experts, who are busy, so it gets added to the pile. SpaceX gets looked at in a first-come-first-served queue.
amazing how they have seen how well space x done and now they all doing same thing thank you for a great review
Thanks for the update.
I would like to know wetther that huge chinese launch vessel (Dong Fang Han Tian Gang Barge, 14:58 ) is crewed during launch? Maybe in a kind of on onboard bunker?
Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore are probably among the few people who are not disappointed by Starliners performance.
Ehhh... I'm sure they're disappointed.
However, what I think you were trying to say and convey, is that they're certainly not going to complain about its problems since it got them there safely enough, and has now rewarded them with quite the nice vacation. 😉
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE exactly!
Regarding the FAA. President Reagan said in a speech, Aug 12, 1986
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are:
"I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. "
What space-x does in 2 months the FAA does in 2 years. The FAA is compromising national security. They do more damage to our space program then our enemies could do to us.
The FAA is doing their job. They have been criticized heavily, but they don't want another Boeing 737 MAX situation on their hands.
@sarkaranish say that to Boeing launching astronaut when everyone knows rocket was faulty
@@_philosopher_00 the rocket was completely fine. Atlas V is a great rocket. But if you have issues with Boeing's launch, you can talk to NASA about it as they understood the risks well and had backup plans as well.
But for private launches like Starship? The FAA is involved and they have lots of rules you need to follow, that clearly SpaceX didn't.
@@sarkaranish These are unmanned test flights on the gulf and over the ocean! How can you compare this to a fully functional airliner??? FAA is overstepping their authority for political reasons.
you would think that the guy who is building the biggest and possibly most important vehicle in history would know when to be diplomatic. much as i love musk's vision, he does seem to have a really weird outlook on life, politics and just how to conduct ones self. anyway, i hope the next launch is soon not later. let's get on with mars.
Show me a truly innovative and dynamic person who is totally "normal".
They cannot be "normal" or they would never have done anything outside the norm.
@@BigLuscious4Life you don't have to be normal to be not really weird
Regardless of his character I'm just glad we have someone actually moving things forward as opposed to the 50 years of - at best - stagnation we had before. I had kids books in the 80s talking about how NASA was working towards sending people to Mars and really want to see that actually happening in my lifetime. I don't have to like the guy making it happen.
@@waspsandwich6548 Thinking of doing vertical landing and now a catch attempt when no one had balls to do is not normal. Its nothing but weird.
@@RandomUser311 that's a good point
I can see improvement for landing
Original Glenn spent 40 years on Earth before first getting to orbit. At 77 years of age, the second trip. Perhaps New Glenn will take longer.
Comparing BO second stage with saturn third stage?
Yes? They're both upper stages
NASA's biggest problem is that Congress gives them money, and then tells them who to hire and how much to pay them.
Am I the only one absolutely furious at the spacex copycats
Earring Flex 💪🏽
stuff goes up often now a days, exciting times
... i wonder if there is a list of stuff being de-orbited
just a thought
SpaceX is doing everybody a favor honestly.
You think we'll be better off without regulations at all or keep regulations but have them be processed faster?
@@iamaduckquack I hope regulation delays any healthcare we have
@@iamaduckquackI am with Elon, with what he said about over regulation.
You really have to focus to absorb so much so quickly; maybe Elisia had a rocket to catch.
Thursday 17th October Portsmouth I see 20 bright lights in single file flying over my house at 19.45pm can anyone explain what I was seeing please
Consider that not only do negative thoughts and emotions destroy our experience of peace, they also undermine our health.
Can you imagine the abject terror of being a Chinese astronaut. I am chilled to my very bones.🥶
Regarding Starship/FAA - How about just a shred of scepticism in this update that the FAA may be partially to blame for the delay. Oh, the heresy....
What do you mean "blame"? Since when are we making it out like it's a us versus them dynamic? The FAA has been operating the same way for the last 4 years. It's never been fast but now all of a sudden everyone is up in arms?
@@Barthhhelona Not everyone, it's just Elon and his fanboi's who think SpaceX shouldn't have to follow the rules.
The Nazis built a device similar to this 8:27 in northern France to fire bombs at the UK. They called it the “Kanone V3”. Quite an interesting concept, and luckily for everyone it was destroyed before completion.
Gerald Bull was building a cannon capable of launching a payload into orbit in 1990 called Project Babylon "supergun", But he was assassinated, most likely by secret service not wanting it used as a weapon. Politicians have always been fearful of hypersonic cannons.
Iraq tried to do the same.
When does Dragon get outfitted with two more seats?!! 🚀
When NASA asks for it and pays for the validation of the systems. Alternatively, SpaceX could fund it. But they’d still have to work with NASA to fly two additional astronauts.
tf is UTC '' nasa space flight'' with English time zones universal according to you?
I realize you are a paid, professional, narrator..... But I believe I could listen to you read a dictionary. Only God could give you a voice so easy to listen to and I'm 70 years old so I've heard a few voices.
Paraty withg Boeing and Space X
all being equal honest
All Boeing planes spavce systems should be halted from from flying
untill every plane as been checked for any faults
along with Wild lifem nchecks at all airports and polution noise
checks across the take off and approuch paths.
This is why we need bigger and more government. So we can delay things due to frivolous permits.
Every FAA regulation is written in blood. Bureaucrats are lazy and don't want to write a law. They only write a law to fix something where people died. Hardly "frivolous"...
"Yes, I agree with you, but you are Boeing"
I'm betting that Firefly will submit their landing attempt paperwork in a timely manner and not sit on it until it is too late like that other company.
You truly believe they sit on their paperwork? No. The problem is that the FAA doesn't work with the same pace and efficiency as a rocket company does. Zootopia got it right! Government employees take their jobs for granted. They don't care about expediency as long as they get their paychecks.
@Pranav_Bhamidipati SpaceX knew it was planning to land the booster on the pad when they built the first tower. It was not in any of their environmental plans or license requests. Waiting over a year before starting the approval may be considered sitting on their hands. Not submitting the paperwork after announcing it to the public could be considered. Waiting until a couple of weeks before the launch certainly is. Any other company would have started the approval process over a year ago.
@@user-fr3hy9uh6y It takes more than just a vague theoretical idea to apply for a license though. The details of the flight trajectory and re-entry boom analysis need to be submitted for an FAA decision. You can't know those details before flying test flights that gather that data. It takes months of planning to set up the parameters for a new test flight. I believe they applied for the license as soon as the plans were finalised.
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati Public employees get paid for 40 hours per week. They are lower paid than private sector employees. If SpaceX wants to pay for more FAA experts to be on call, I'm sure the FAA will do so, for several million in fees.
42? Life don't talk to me about life! ;)
9:00 firing a spaceship out of a gun might sound crazy, but five or ten years ago i was saying how daft humans would sound explaining to aliens who come to visit that we got off the planet by lighting a big fire under a can. there just HAS to be a better way of travelling in space than setting fire to stuff. i'm hoping it will be some kind of warp drive, but anything has to be better than combusting stuff.
Ok. We just need you tell us how to do it without combusting stuff. If you can’t do that then stfu.
space elevator
I think the rotary launch might be good for the moon
What's behind this trend of naning things with long winded mouthful quotes or whole sentences?
Not that I mind, but I'd like to understand this trend.
So there is a chance... that New Glenn will fly in 2026... Maybe.
Rockets for earrings....nice.
@ 1 1 : 1 5 it ain’t easy landing a rocket if ur not SPACEX
How many successful launches have been made since 1960? This is a bar bet. Half say less than 1,000 , Others say just over 1K. We are counting all countries. What do you guys say?
well i do know elon has 6000 satellites up their already and (i think) he's broken the 100 launchers in a year figure...the records seem to be about how many safe returns and reuses he's doing these days.
i caved and wiki'd it:
So far, SpaceX has launched 92 rockets in 2024, 89 Falcon 9, one Falcon Heavy and two Starship.
i'm surprised at the answer: over 11,000
but i guess it depends on the definition of "rocket launch" i imagined folks with those RC controlled things....
A lot more than 1,000. Average number of launches per year has been about 100 since the middle of the 1960s which would translate in about 6,000 launch attempts in that time. Even if only 90% were successful, that's still over 5,000 successful launches
11:11 interesting to see a Soviet Union flag flying there
That's curious. I think it's the flag of the communist party of china.
The flame trench guys will just defend the FAA.
The administrator obviously loves delaying space progress
He is high on his own power.
He has a job to do. If SpaceX doesn't submit paperwork on time, that is a SpaceX issue.
@@jeffreypierson2064 Ok. the passing of inspection has been done and being held from previous things is a delay and all they need to do with spacex is either tell them ok or not if the sky is clear of planes for them to launch. quit delaying.
Eh, the FAA just got bit in the butt real bad for not keeping Boeing on the leash. A bunch of people died because of it. It only makes sense that they are going to make spacex do everything squeaky clean and by the book. Plus, while spacex may have thousands and thousands of employees, the FAA may only have a handful of people to work this mega project.
Space x just needs to stop breaking the law yes the faa is slow but that doesn’t mean space x can break the law
Says the space expert.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines you don’t need to be a space expert to know a company shouldn’t break the law honey
@@Robert-rt9ho Again what laws have been broken Karen? name them
@@ExploringCabinsandMines launching falcon 9 from a non approved control room, launching falcon 9 and using a propellant farm that was not approved and for starship usuing a deluge system that wasn’t fully approved federally
You mom dropped you on your head when you were born huh?
@NASASaceflight - NSF should use THIS on screen narrator much more.... It may be you aren't seeing her potential (and more importantly how many positives her participation will be a BOON for NSF. You don't have to take my word for it. I put it on you ... (especially for those that are TRUE ENGINEERS in your crew/staff). Use DATA.... she's the "real sh*t"" (especially compared to several others with accents lol)
Peace and Growth!
Elysia does This Week In Spaceflight every Friday... its been a weekly series for quite some time and she's great at it! 👍 - Das
Good on you for covering what Whittaker said.
We need more objective critical assessment of the PR games SpaceX is playing against the FAA and other government agencies.
The stacking is such an obvious pressure tactic against the FAA, and they've done it multiple times before. And almost all of TH-camrs keep falling for it and marching to their tune.
Or is it that they aren't game to criticise Musk for fear of cruelling access? Well that would be understandable given Musk has become so vindictive against any critiques.
Whittaker made it clear in his answers that SpaceX failed to get multiple required permits including sonic boom, launched without a permit, and more. He made it clear that the delays are SpaceX′s own making.
″Is there a path to move up the launch?″
″Complying with the regulations would be the best path.″
Go organise a DEI seminar instead, Ashley. Engineering is for grown-ups and you will quickly find out how much weight your self-serving opinions count for in this field. Stick to HR committees, long term forecasting and public relations, where empirical results don't matter. Otherwise, there are always public phone booths to clean, toothpaste tubes to photograph in the moonlight and other pursuits suitable for you noble Golgafrinchans.
@@PersonalityMalfunction wow so many words for ″I'm a wanker″.
People were screeching about sonic booms from Falcon 9 before that rocket started landing at Cape Canaveral. It turned out to be a non-issue. The FAA jackasses are simply grasping at straws.
I think yall missed two references, dumb & dumber and the buggles
Dishonorable Whitaker.
jules verne....
Elon doesn’t have to have spacex in the USA if the FAA wants to keep playing hardball.
If Musk wants to give up his rocket deigns as they are covered by ITAR, or end up with the same fate as Gerald Bull of "Supergun" fame.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Where else in the world would he have the capital, the engineers, and the infrastructure to build SpaceX 2.0? In Russia, his capital would be stolen by oligarchs. In China, he would be disappeared for not playing politics. In Western Europe, there is no land that he could build a launch facility. In any other part of the world, save India, you would be missing the engineers. India is a remote possibility, but it would not be done for another century.
@@jeffreypierson2064 I believe SpaceX have been talking to the Australian government along with the US government to pursue a base there.
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Elysia in 2034: SpaceX is planning for it's 200th landing on Mars as the first city on Mars 'Elonium' reaches over one million in population. Thanks to the discovery of water the city is now officially self sustaining.
Why wasn't the former Twitter called EarthX?
Nah, too limiting once Musk is also operating on Mars. You can bet he's already dreaming of how he can have the first person on mars posting to x from the surface.
FFA officials are deliberately slowing down Spacex's progress, they believe that Spacex will become a monopoly in space launches, but this is not the case. Spacex is building something that is radically different from everything that humanity has built in the past, a Starship is not just a rocket for launches, it is an interstellar ship that is designed for other purposes. No other US company is building something like this, all companies competing with Space x are designed only for launches in the near Earth region and are not designed to deliver a large volume of cargo to neighboring planets. The real competitor for them is the already built Falcon 9.
Therefore, FFA, it is impractical and harmful to slow down the construction of an interstellar ship, because we have been marking time in one place for a long time, and we repeat all those achievements that humanity has achieved a long time ago.
you just lost all credibility with that click bait graphic.
The... land vs catch thumbnail? Can you explain how that's clickbait to you? - Das
What we really need is true SSTO space launch vehicle. Much lower costs, no stages etc.
SSTOs on Earth will have very small payload capacities. Our gravity well is deep.
The rocket equation says "no".
@@Pranav_Bhamidipati That's true, however the payload can be more frequent and would be magnitudes cheaper. It also wouldn't be "very small", some SSTO concepts should carry multiple tonnes.
@@GrigoriZhukov Then your rocket equation is wrong. SSTO's are very much possible, however getting them to be useful is quite complicated.
Michael Whitaker = dodgy. He misrepresented the facts about the fuel farm relocation proximity to habitation, and the claims about safety reviews due to sonic boom effects and impact of heat tiles changes are very weak justifications for the delay.
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NSF disappoints me to the Max with their PRO-FAA stance and obvious bias. Why are they Taking a Side on this? I’m not going to watch the Flame Trench for “more debate” because last week all we got was a one-sided attack on SpaceX. They laid out the whole argument on why SpaceX is BAD and needs to be held accountable. Ridiculous. As was the insults hurled at commenters. Hey people, maybe don’t attack your own fans for having a different opinion, drawing a different conclusion, OR just waiting to get more information.
Maybe SpaceX is breaking the law. Let’s see the proof. An FAA fine is not proof, only a serious accusation.
Pointing out the party affiliation of the congressman who questioned the FAA is further evidence of bias.
These actions by FAA are questionable. Government doesn’t always act with altruistic motives. Let it play out.
I am left to assume for them it has become political because Elon is supporting a candidate NSF doesn’t like. Not a good look.
Hey, newsflash NSF-not every fan of space is a woke leftist.
I love their space coverage. Please stick to that. I’m very disappointed that a channel I support and appreciate has proven it Cannot be objective in this, thinks its own fans are idiots, and smirks with superiority when saying so.
Maybe consider you might be the one with the anti FAA bias and political bias. NSF explicitly FORBIDS political rambling in their live chats and is specifically not political. The irony is YOU are the one making this political. Defending the FAA or criticizing SpaceX here is not liberal or conservative.
@@Barthhhelona I have considered that, actually. I came to the conclusion, which you might see in my comment, that we might find out more later, that SpaceX broke a law. There are plenty of people looking at this and saying the FAA Is in the wrong. Maybe they are. But that’s not presented. At all. There’s no balance in this report. There’s no “let’s wait to find out more”. Just the implication the the congressman was wrong to question the FAA. That SpaceX was wrong to reply to the congressman instead of the FAA with no proof that they didn’t.
You’re free to believe I’m wrong, and I’m free to call out the bias I see.
SX definitely broke laws but the FAA are also too slow. Both are true. Taking sides is silly.
Sorry, but it appears fact why don't agree with FAA and a bias against them.
@@iamaduckquack exactly! This isn't football where you support your favorite team. Couldn't agree more.
FAA went over Boeing’s flight and look what a disaster that was they don’t do anything to help.
The FAA wasn't responsible for the Boeing test flight, NASA was.
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43s ago heck yeah nsf!
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Administration delays vs safety delay?
Adminsitration wasn't happey when Elon back the DJT campaign.
Sudeenly, they have another problem?
How convenient for Boeing, their prodigal child, perhaps
Another debate...nothing new under the sun! Too bad we couldn't apply this amount of debate to idolatry!? Peculiar!
Why? "Which my god can beat up your god" debate is that. It helps to know when picking the right chip and beer. Because.
Ok then, yes blue and
My God can bring back the Jews to their nation! From 1900 year old dry bones!
@AdamMeaney-zs6zw what god? 6 myth, pity people don't study more and believe ancient stories created to control the gullible and stupid and others of that ilk.