I bought a Strandberg Classic and loved it so much I sold my Osiris to buy a Plini Neck Through. I really appreciate what Kiesel does and the value they offer, but never did bond with it.
@@Kapiel Until I got it in my hands, I was a bit uncertain about my extra investment but man is it great. For reference, you can play a B Minor/Major scale starting on the 19th w/out any odd hand contortions which is great as I don't have freakishly large hands (like Paul Gilbert). The only bit of stretching I have to do is 23/24 on the E/A strings. The pups are also the custom Plini, which are really nice and articulate but I honestly don't think they differ much form the SUHR's that come loaded in the bolt-on. i put SUHR's (thornbucker and 2xv60lps') in my classic and have suhr's in my schecter nick Johnston and have a lot of respect for SUHR pups. And then comes resonance and sustain which hands down is the best of any of my 12 guitars I own.
Nice review. I don't own a Strandberg. I have a fully bling'd out koa Kiesel OM7 with beryllium pickups. The warmth and feel of this guitar is special. Perhaps because as you say it feels so familiar. I can't imagine a better guitar for me.
@@sil.lum.quan. koa sounds amazing. Very jealous, and glad you love your Kiesel! How’s the spread/feel on the multiscale? The berg is very slight and I’m interested in a 7-multiscale some day.
@@Kapiel I have a 7 string multiscale headless Osiris if you are interesed. Found out I don't need the 7 strings it would be nice to send it to someone who would really use it. Here is a sample of that guitar (please don't mind my bad playing :) ): (The guitar has a passive pickup sett in it now (Bare Knuckle warpig/cold sweat th-cam.com/video/C498AUVos6c/w-d-xo.html
Solid video, for me its the kiesel bevel vs the strandberg leg cutaway. Something else I am considering is the 0 fret, do you have any issues with the 0 fret I have heard some mention it makes a little twangy noise as the 0 fret can become dented?
Thanks for the kind words! I do have some wear on the 0 fret on my berg after about 3 yrs of playing. That being said, it hasn't caused any issues yet on intonation or playability. I guess we'll see how it goes, but so far, no problems.
Enjoyed your video comparison..I have a 6 String Osiris and a Boden both having Tremolo next to each other on the wall.I sold my 1st Boden that had the Suhr pickups in it.The one I have now has Fishman's in it..Been playing since 1971-and have been down the pickup Rabbit-hole a few times over the years.In the Strandberg-to my ears the Suhr pickups sound the best. And in every other guitar I've heard with them in it. BUT on the Kiesel the neck pickup is a Kiesel Lithium and the Bridge is a Greg Howe. And they belong on that guitar and they make it sound Great..The Kiesel has a beautiful Birdseye maple fretboard and the Fastest Tung oiled neck I've ever played on !!! Neck heel makes smooth access all the way to the 24th fret..The Strandberg Endure neck using the cutout in the body so you can put the guitar on your leg in Classical Position. Is The Most Comfortable and Ergonomic way I've ever played guitar.Wearing the guitar high on the strap gives the same results..The NEW Boden guitars that have just started shipping this week have better access to the higher frets because of the new cutaway where the neck joins the body.Where the strings clip off on the top of the neck.Is now 1 peice.instead of individual peices to tighten the string to.They aren't doing roasted necks on the new Boden's. But Strandberg is heating the necks just like Kiesel has been doing for years.To get the moisture out of them..Osiris has a great arm cutaway-the New Strandberg has a better arm cutaway than it did before..I like the Trems on both of them...I could Ramble on..They are Both Fantastic guitars..Each has it's +"s. I had to pre-order a New Boden with the Suhr's in it. When I get that...The Boden with the Fishmans is going to be sold..What a Huge Variety of guitars we all have access to now.
Thanks for your thoughts! Glad you enjoyed the video. I think the next target for me would be either a neck-thru prog or a salen. I’m really debating about the fishmans in my osiris atm…Bareknuckles are sounding more awesome by the day
@@Kapiel A Neck-thru Prog would be great or a Salen..You'll have to check out the Strandberg website.Everything -just about- has been changed or upgraded..Never played using Bareknucles pups but haven't seen Anybody on the net say anything bad about them. The Fishmans I have in my Boden are Modern.If I was a Metal player-I'd imagine the sound they have would be good for me.I bought the guitar in 2020 because it was in a limited run of 24. Mahogany Neck (not Roasted) with no issues at all and Mahogany Body,and Poplar Burl top. I have Fishman Single pups in a Strat Style guitar.That I'm Really Happy with. I'd used Joe Barden pups HSH in the guitar for Years before that. His pups sound high-end .Check out Danny Gatton to hear those pups.He played a Telecaster..If you do any upgrades or get a new guitar-Put it up on a Video..
@@Kapiel Maple Body w/Maple Neck has a definate Snap (Briteness) when you pluck the string.....The Mahogany has more of a Woody Acoustic sound to it...NOT what you'd normally expect from a Strandberg--when you hit the 1st Chord..BUT the Guitar Sounds Good..The Fishmans do give you a Lot of different tone options...But the Suhr pups are what I Really like the Sound of.. I normally play Semi-Clean to Mid-Distortion..Rythem and Melody Lines..Going to have to A/B the New Strandberg with the Mahogany one.To see if I keep the Mahogany one or not...I really like the Sound of your Plini Guitar-and what you're doing with it...And the Kiesel...Sounds Great...
@@Barflew1 Thanks!! Your description of the mahogany boden sounds like what I've expected and have experienced with mahogany guitars. Cheers and thanks for the sub!
I don’t go crazy with the trems but it’s on par with my other guitars (PRS, Music Man). It might be just me, but it feels like it might stay in tune better than my Kiesel with the hipshot trem.
Hello, I also had a strandberg boden and a kiesel vader. You did a great job comparing the two. Overall the strandberg is a more "stock" feel to me though as the Kiesel has so many options. The hipshot really takes it to the next level though, its just so easy to do string changes, action adjustments at the bridge, and intonation is soooooooo easy its ludicrious. I ended up keeping my Kiesel and ordering another. There is much to be said about ordering a custom Kiesel and the pains involved with that whole process, but to me the Kiesel was on par with the indonesian Strandberg in every area and above par in many areas. Great video!
Right on! I remember taking months to choose the specs and then placing the order and the pain in waiting...my build only took 8 weeks so it was relatively fast but totally worth the wait. Their reps were great, Chris Hong especially was spectacular.
Yea see mine took almost 7 months and cost over 3,000 dollars. My sales guy, who I wont name, was awful and has no business in customer service. My guitar came with flaws but i was offered a full rebuild or a discount, which honestly is good on them. I really wish I had a different sales guy and I'll definitely avoid him in the future. All in all I am very happy with the end product, its fantastic.
@@Way2MetaL 7 months is no joke. Glad you got it in the end though. My next target will be either a Salen or a higher spec Zeus...if the wife is willing...
Hello! How does this raw tone antique ash coating (Kiesel) stand up to significant changes in humidity and temperature? (winter is cold and dry, summer is hot and wet, etc.) Is there an increased risk of body deformation?
Hey! thanks for the comment. I think guitar bodies made of quality wood are not prone to warping/deformation, as it's a pretty big piece of wood. I'm in Canada, so the winters are very dry. I haven't seen any significant changes to the body after 3 yrs of owning this guitar. I believe Kiesel uses grain filler in their raw tone finishes anyway, so the body won't be breathing in/out humidity.
I have a question about Kiesel. Since there is no head, I wonder what the weight balance is like. I think the bridge side is heavy, so the neck will go up. I'd love to hear from you about your experience.
I did mention that a little bit in the video, but there is a slight imbalance towards the body side. However, if you notice, the headless bodies have a lot less wood from the bridge to the strap-pin; they basically can shave off this weight because there is no headstock. I would say that the weight imbalance is not too bad, definitely not as bad as "normal" guitars. The strandberg is just way too light to even think about this stuff and the chambering definitely adds to this.
Great vid here and explanations! Question: how do like the neck joint of the Boden in regard to access to the upper frets? That seems to be one of the most common complaints I've seen regarding their design. I know the neck-thru Strandbergs basically cost as extra $5-600 over the regular models which feature that standard joint, and which in turn makes those models approach the $3K number..
Hey! Thanks for pointing that out. I should've had that in the vid. Unfortunately, the bolt-on Strandbergs don't have the best joint, though not like, say, a Fender. The Kiesel joints are pretty much the best I've played so far. Me personally, I don't play enough on the higher frets to justify the extra money for a neck-thru...though I was dying to get one.
Hello! I've been playing for over 10 years, but have never invested in a "pro" guitar (all my guitars were under 350 dollars). I am finally buying my first pro guitar, but I really wanna hit the nail in the head for the choice. I really really like the strandberg's aestetics , especially the Plini model's. What are your thoughts about the 3way switch without a tone knob? Is it too limiting compared to other strandbergs like the fusions? I like to play many different styles, and I am not sure if the Plini model is suited for it. What do you think? Would you evern recommend a strandberg for my first pro guitar?
Hey! I would definitely suggest Strandbergs for a first “good” guitar, the design and pickups are great for different genres. For me, I’ve only used the tone knobs on my guitar live, and due to covid, haven’t played my berg live yet. I’ve also never owned an h-s-h style guitar so don’t really know what I’m missing out on. I really did have my heart set on the Plini model and already have other guitars so I wasn’t feeling bad about the 3way. If you have your heart set on the Plini why don’t you mod it to be a 5way the revert if you need to sell it?
Nice! I own a Kiesel Zeus and besides some weird esthetics choices I made on it I absolutely love it, best guitar I've ever played. Love what you did with your Osiris, looks rad. How do like the trems on both guitars? Do you have a preference?
I just checked out your channel and you have sick vids going on! Subbed! And thanks on my Osiris. They both stay in tune really well but for adjustment purposes, I'd give the hipshot stuff the upper hand. Changing strings is pretty much the same difficulty.
My Prog 7 is my only electric at the moment and I'm happy. Here's the deal with Strandberg. The things you like, and things you don't like, you're paying a premium. And the case is fucking wack lol.
If Kiesel offered roasted maple necks on neck-thru's, I'd get a Kiesel Leia in 24.75" scale. As of now, can only get the roasted fingerboard on that model, but not a roasted neck 🙁
How does the Strandberg neck feel compared to the Kiesel? The Kiesel tung oil neck is one of the best things about their guitars in my experience. I haven't tried a Strandberg yet though. Thanks for the video!
No problem! Have you tried roasted maple necks? Both my kiesel and strandberg have them and they are the same in terms of texture. It feels smoother than tung oiled necks in my opinion.
Thanks man! I didn't mention it in detail, but the Osiris came with Kiesel Lithiums: they were pretty good, underrated pickups I would say. I had my heart set on the Abasi's with the 5-way switch though, so I asked my guitar-tech friend swap them out. Besides this, both guitars are stock, no mods!
Thanks for the suggestion man, and I hope to do more b-roll stuff moving forward. I had a camera without IBIS and didn't know I could stabilize videos in post at the time, so I kept the b-roll to a minimum.
Wait you're not even gonna play them? 😜 Thanks for the video it's a lot of great info. My only suggestion is to use more visuals, they way you did when you showed each case, but for example you could lay the guitars out next to each other and use a chalkboard pointer or something to point out the features as you talk about them. You did some of that which is good and you had good shots of the guitar edges, tops, etc. i'm just suggesting more, like there is no need to look at your face when we could be looking at the guitars you know what i mean? 😛Anyway keep up the great work!
Haha I'll be honest, this video was very early in to my journey starting w/ TH-cam, video editing and whatnots. My video editing in terms of effects has not improved a lot but hoping to get some better results in later videos. Thanks for the feedback!
@@Kapiel yeah i think its the bevels. it seems like when esp would copy a les paul or explorer but would add some weird shape to make it not an obvious copy. just seems like an odd shape but not in a fun way to look at. i can stare at the strandberg version of the telecaster all day long. its ugly too but it just seems like everything on it is meant to be
I bought a Strandberg Classic and loved it so much I sold my Osiris to buy a Plini Neck Through. I really appreciate what Kiesel does and the value they offer, but never did bond with it.
Oh man. When I bought my Plini, I was dying to get the neck-thru, but couldn't justify the extra 500 for higher fret access...how do you like yours?
@@Kapiel Until I got it in my hands, I was a bit uncertain about my extra investment but man is it great. For reference, you can play a B Minor/Major scale starting on the 19th w/out any odd hand contortions which is great as I don't have freakishly large hands (like Paul Gilbert). The only bit of stretching I have to do is 23/24 on the E/A strings. The pups are also the custom Plini, which are really nice and articulate but I honestly don't think they differ much form the SUHR's that come loaded in the bolt-on. i put SUHR's (thornbucker and 2xv60lps') in my classic and have suhr's in my schecter nick Johnston and have a lot of respect for SUHR pups. And then comes resonance and sustain which hands down is the best of any of my 12 guitars I own.
@@scottbronder that's pretty awsome. Maybe someday...I hope though Strandberg improves their joints as the Kiesel is much better in that aspect.
Nice review. I don't own a Strandberg. I have a fully bling'd out koa Kiesel OM7 with beryllium pickups. The warmth and feel of this guitar is special. Perhaps because as you say it feels so familiar. I can't imagine a better guitar for me.
@@sil.lum.quan. koa sounds amazing. Very jealous, and glad you love your Kiesel! How’s the spread/feel on the multiscale? The berg is very slight and I’m interested in a 7-multiscale some day.
@@Kapiel I have a 7 string multiscale headless Osiris if you are interesed. Found out I don't need the 7 strings it would be nice to send it to someone who would really use it. Here is a sample of that guitar (please don't mind my bad playing :) ): (The guitar has a passive pickup sett in it now (Bare Knuckle warpig/cold sweat
th-cam.com/video/C498AUVos6c/w-d-xo.html
Solid video, for me its the kiesel bevel vs the strandberg leg cutaway. Something else I am considering is the 0 fret, do you have any issues with the 0 fret I have heard some mention it makes a little twangy noise as the 0 fret can become dented?
Thanks for the kind words! I do have some wear on the 0 fret on my berg after about 3 yrs of playing. That being said, it hasn't caused any issues yet on intonation or playability. I guess we'll see how it goes, but so far, no problems.
Enjoyed your video comparison..I have a 6 String Osiris and a Boden both having Tremolo next to each other on the wall.I sold my 1st Boden that had the Suhr pickups in it.The one I have now has Fishman's in it..Been playing since 1971-and have been down the pickup Rabbit-hole a few times over the years.In the Strandberg-to my ears the Suhr pickups sound the best. And in every other guitar I've heard with them in it. BUT on the Kiesel the neck pickup is a Kiesel Lithium and the Bridge is a Greg Howe. And they belong on that guitar and they make it sound Great..The Kiesel has a beautiful Birdseye maple fretboard and the Fastest Tung oiled neck I've ever played on !!! Neck heel makes smooth access all the way to the 24th fret..The Strandberg Endure neck using the cutout in the body so you can put the guitar on your leg in Classical Position. Is The Most Comfortable and Ergonomic way I've ever played guitar.Wearing the guitar high on the strap gives the same results..The NEW Boden guitars that have just started shipping this week have better access to the higher frets because of the new cutaway where the neck joins the body.Where the strings clip off on the top of the neck.Is now 1 peice.instead of individual peices to tighten the string to.They aren't doing roasted necks on the new Boden's. But Strandberg is heating the necks just like Kiesel has been doing for years.To get the moisture out of them..Osiris has a great arm cutaway-the New Strandberg has a better arm cutaway than it did before..I like the Trems on both of them...I could Ramble on..They are Both Fantastic guitars..Each has it's +"s. I had to pre-order a New Boden with the Suhr's in it. When I get that...The Boden with the Fishmans is going to be sold..What a Huge Variety of guitars we all have access to now.
Thanks for your thoughts! Glad you enjoyed the video. I think the next target for me would be either a neck-thru prog or a salen. I’m really debating about the fishmans in my osiris atm…Bareknuckles are sounding more awesome by the day
@@Kapiel A Neck-thru Prog would be great or a Salen..You'll have to check out the Strandberg website.Everything -just about- has been changed or upgraded..Never played using Bareknucles pups but haven't seen Anybody on the net say anything bad about them. The Fishmans I have in my Boden are Modern.If I was a Metal player-I'd imagine the sound they have would be good for me.I bought the guitar in 2020 because it was in a limited run of 24. Mahogany Neck (not Roasted) with no issues at all and Mahogany Body,and Poplar Burl top. I have Fishman Single pups in a Strat Style guitar.That I'm Really Happy with. I'd used Joe Barden pups HSH in the guitar for Years before that. His pups sound high-end .Check out Danny Gatton to hear those pups.He played a Telecaster..If you do any upgrades or get a new guitar-Put it up on a Video..
@@Barflew1 will check out the things you’ve mentioned! By the way, how is the mahogany on bodens?
@@Kapiel Maple Body w/Maple Neck has a definate Snap (Briteness) when you pluck the string.....The Mahogany has more of a Woody Acoustic sound to it...NOT what you'd normally expect from a Strandberg--when you hit the 1st Chord..BUT the Guitar Sounds Good..The Fishmans do give you a Lot of different tone options...But the Suhr pups are what I Really like the Sound of.. I normally play Semi-Clean to Mid-Distortion..Rythem and Melody Lines..Going to have to A/B the New Strandberg with the Mahogany one.To see if I keep the Mahogany one or not...I really like the Sound of your Plini Guitar-and what you're doing with it...And the Kiesel...Sounds Great...
@@Barflew1 Thanks!! Your description of the mahogany boden sounds like what I've expected and have experienced with mahogany guitars. Cheers and thanks for the sub!
How is the trem on the Boden? Kiesel has still yet to offer multiscale with trem.
I don’t go crazy with the trems but it’s on par with my other guitars (PRS, Music Man). It might be just me, but it feels like it might stay in tune better than my Kiesel with the hipshot trem.
Hello, I also had a strandberg boden and a kiesel vader. You did a great job comparing the two. Overall the strandberg is a more "stock" feel to me though as the Kiesel has so many options. The hipshot really takes it to the next level though, its just so easy to do string changes, action adjustments at the bridge, and intonation is soooooooo easy its ludicrious. I ended up keeping my Kiesel and ordering another. There is much to be said about ordering a custom Kiesel and the pains involved with that whole process, but to me the Kiesel was on par with the indonesian Strandberg in every area and above par in many areas. Great video!
Right on! I remember taking months to choose the specs and then placing the order and the pain in waiting...my build only took 8 weeks so it was relatively fast but totally worth the wait. Their reps were great, Chris Hong especially was spectacular.
Yea see mine took almost 7 months and cost over 3,000 dollars. My sales guy, who I wont name, was awful and has no business in customer service. My guitar came with flaws but i was offered a full rebuild or a discount, which honestly is good on them. I really wish I had a different sales guy and I'll definitely avoid him in the future. All in all I am very happy with the end product, its fantastic.
@@Way2MetaL 7 months is no joke. Glad you got it in the end though. My next target will be either a Salen or a higher spec Zeus...if the wife is willing...
@@Kapiel Awesome man. Do you have problems with your whammy bar staying in on the osiris? I have a fix for that if so.
@@Way2MetaL actually it took me a while to figure that one out. I have it staying in now thanks!
i'm actually acquiring both as we speak, lol. good god, what have i done
You'll have two great guitars man!!
Hello! How does this raw tone antique ash coating (Kiesel) stand up to significant changes in humidity and temperature? (winter is cold and dry, summer is hot and wet, etc.) Is there an increased risk of body deformation?
Hey! thanks for the comment. I think guitar bodies made of quality wood are not prone to warping/deformation, as it's a pretty big piece of wood. I'm in Canada, so the winters are very dry. I haven't seen any significant changes to the body after 3 yrs of owning this guitar. I believe Kiesel uses grain filler in their raw tone finishes anyway, so the body won't be breathing in/out humidity.
@@Kapiel Thank you, you calmed me down!)
I have a question about Kiesel.
Since there is no head, I wonder what the weight balance is like.
I think the bridge side is heavy, so the neck will go up. I'd love to hear from you about your experience.
I did mention that a little bit in the video, but there is a slight imbalance towards the body side.
However, if you notice, the headless bodies have a lot less wood from the bridge to the strap-pin; they basically can shave off this weight because there is no headstock.
I would say that the weight imbalance is not too bad, definitely not as bad as "normal" guitars. The strandberg is just way too light to even think about this stuff and the chambering definitely adds to this.
Great vid here and explanations! Question: how do like the neck joint of the Boden in regard to access to the upper frets? That seems to be one of the most common complaints I've seen regarding their design. I know the neck-thru Strandbergs basically cost as extra $5-600 over the regular models which feature that standard joint, and which in turn makes those models approach the $3K number..
Hey! Thanks for pointing that out. I should've had that in the vid. Unfortunately, the bolt-on Strandbergs don't have the best joint, though not like, say, a Fender. The Kiesel joints are pretty much the best I've played so far. Me personally, I don't play enough on the higher frets to justify the extra money for a neck-thru...though I was dying to get one.
Great video
Thank you! Hoping to put out part two, sometime
Hello! I've been playing for over 10 years, but have never invested in a "pro" guitar (all my guitars were under 350 dollars). I am finally buying my first pro guitar, but I really wanna hit the nail in the head for the choice. I really really like the strandberg's aestetics , especially the Plini model's. What are your thoughts about the 3way switch without a tone knob? Is it too limiting compared to other strandbergs like the fusions? I like to play many different styles, and I am not sure if the Plini model is suited for it. What do you think? Would you evern recommend a strandberg for my first pro guitar?
Hey! I would definitely suggest Strandbergs for a first “good” guitar, the design and pickups are great for different genres. For me, I’ve only used the tone knobs on my guitar live, and due to covid, haven’t played my berg live yet. I’ve also never owned an h-s-h style guitar so don’t really know what I’m missing out on. I really did have my heart set on the Plini model and already have other guitars so I wasn’t feeling bad about the 3way. If you have your heart set on the Plini why don’t you mod it to be a 5way the revert if you need to sell it?
@@Kapiel Sounds cool! Thx!
Nice! I own a Kiesel Zeus and besides some weird esthetics choices I made on it I absolutely love it, best guitar I've ever played. Love what you did with your Osiris, looks rad. How do like the trems on both guitars? Do you have a preference?
I just checked out your channel and you have sick vids going on! Subbed! And thanks on my Osiris. They both stay in tune really well but for adjustment purposes, I'd give the hipshot stuff the upper hand. Changing strings is pretty much the same difficulty.
Kapiel thanks !
My Prog 7 is my only electric at the moment and I'm happy. Here's the deal with Strandberg. The things you like, and things you don't like, you're paying a premium. And the case is fucking wack lol.
One of my quips is the pots. It doesn’t really seem consistent or smooth. But yes, you get what you get and I’m satisfied 95%!
If Kiesel offered roasted maple necks on neck-thru's, I'd get a Kiesel Leia in 24.75" scale.
As of now, can only get the roasted fingerboard on that model, but not a roasted neck 🙁
Roasted neck thru's would be sick...
How does the Strandberg neck feel compared to the Kiesel? The Kiesel tung oil neck is one of the best things about their guitars in my experience. I haven't tried a Strandberg yet though. Thanks for the video!
No problem! Have you tried roasted maple necks? Both my kiesel and strandberg have them and they are the same in terms of texture. It feels smoother than tung oiled necks in my opinion.
Great video as always dude!
Did you make any mods/upgrades to your guitars?
Thanks man! I didn't mention it in detail, but the Osiris came with Kiesel Lithiums: they were pretty good, underrated pickups I would say. I had my heart set on the Abasi's with the 5-way switch though, so I asked my guitar-tech friend swap them out. Besides this, both guitars are stock, no mods!
instead of showing your face dude show more of what you are describing on the two guitars... just a suggestion.
Thanks for the suggestion man, and I hope to do more b-roll stuff moving forward. I had a camera without IBIS and didn't know I could stabilize videos in post at the time, so I kept the b-roll to a minimum.
Wait you're not even gonna play them? 😜 Thanks for the video it's a lot of great info. My only suggestion is to use more visuals, they way you did when you showed each case, but for example you could lay the guitars out next to each other and use a chalkboard pointer or something to point out the features as you talk about them. You did some of that which is good and you had good shots of the guitar edges, tops, etc. i'm just suggesting more, like there is no need to look at your face when we could be looking at the guitars you know what i mean? 😛Anyway keep up the great work!
Haha I'll be honest, this video was very early in to my journey starting w/ TH-cam, video editing and whatnots. My video editing in terms of effects has not improved a lot but hoping to get some better results in later videos. Thanks for the feedback!
im sure kiesel are fun to play but i think they are so ugly. they miss that 'IT' factor that strandbergs have
Really? Bergs are definitely easy on the eyes but I think Kiesels do have a more traditional look too them. Maybe it's the bevels you don't like?
@@Kapiel yeah i think its the bevels. it seems like when esp would copy a les paul or explorer but would add some weird shape to make it not an obvious copy. just seems like an odd shape but not in a fun way to look at. i can stare at the strandberg version of the telecaster all day long. its ugly too but it just seems like everything on it is meant to be
Kiesel Osiris looks too much like the Harley Benton Dullahan... it just looks cheap to me
The dullahan is an osiris copy. The osiris shape came out like 2 or 3 years before the dullahan.