0:32 Overview of the Rev 5 Tremolo 3:05 Tools and where they fit on the bridge 7:00 Checking the relief of the neck 7:40 Adjusting the action 8:54 "Stopping" the tremolo before adjusting intonation 11:03 Checking and adjusting intonation 15:00 Not enough slack to adjust intonation properly: Ola's solution 16:38 Removing the improvised trem-stopper and re-tuning
Hello Ola, after several years of lusting and drooling over your guitars i fI ally have one! A Boden standard 6 string with the tremolo(bengal burst), and I’m unimaginably in love with it! Light and perfectly balanced! Is it true that the standard line pickups are manufactured by the good folks at suhr ? Thank you for making amazing pieces of functional art And thank you to Chris letchford and plini for the inspiration And to diffusion audio and Guitar Brando for making it available to me here in Canada! Already planning for my next one!
I changed strings to the same gauge (10s) on my plini sig and I think im at 2mm on the low e and 1mm on the high e in height. The bridge looks a little tilted upwards and the trem cannot flutter like it used to. should i loosen the spring tension and raise the global height of the bridge to compensate?
In needle bearing tremolo the housing could be mounted over a traditional mounting posts with studs and it could have been height adjustable like a floyd rose posts.
Just did my first string chance on my classic 6 trem and this video was my saviour! Thank you so so much guys for being so supportive and thinking if us idiots haha!
Two suggestions: I worry about stripping the holes for the trem claw screws if you tighten and loosen them every time you change strings. Replacing the trem claw screws with bolts that go into a threaded insert would mean this never becomes a problem. And I don't know how to fix it, but it sucks that the string has to be loose to move the saddle to adjust intonation. It would be far preferable if the saddle could be moved with the string under tension.
Can figure out why but whenever I try to whammy flick the trem is hitting something inside adjusted just about everything and completely reset it up in circles for 6 hours with no luck
I see soo many people taping change and picks together to block trems during tunning. One would think that in this day and age where technology such as 3d printers and cnc maching exist, that the manufactures would just make a part or insert to to address such a matter... just a thought.
If you look at the older design prototypes on the old website, you'll see exactly such a feature built in to at least one iteration of a vibrato bridge.
Has anyone found a problem with the strings falling out of the tuner mounting screws? I don't own one but I'm super interested in how everyone keeps their strings stably on their bridge with this particular system.
Hey is this tremolo for sale in case l’d like to replace my old tremolo? I actually would like to ask if there is a 7 string on the market for sale?…- let me know please if so (or send me a link where l could go and place my order)- but for a 7 string please.. Thank you.
Ola, How would you recommend fixing a nick in the zero fret? I recently purchased a standard 6 and I’m not sure if the dent was there when I bought it or if I did it but the zero fret had a dent at the b string How would you recommend fixing that? My dealer recommended 800 grit sandpaper then polishing with 1000 or 1200 grit Does that make sense? Love your guitars ( already have another one on order!)
I'd always check the harmonic agains't the fretted note in your usual playing position (at least if you're adjusting your own guitar). The way shown usually works fine, of course, but in my opinion/experience the position is also a factor because you normally use a different pressure in playing position and your fingers also are in a different position. And if adjusting in playing position you can compensate for that (if necessary, and if you're a nerd;-)).
The more I watch these Steandberg setup videos, the less inclined I am to purchase one. That method of adjusting the intonation is _so_ labor intensive, and is non incremental, meaning you cannot visually monitor the adjustment sweep. It's a bafflingly bad design.
I have just brought a Korean 6 strings tremolo guitar. I can't get the saddle at guitar level when I use 3 springs in the back, so I install 4 strings. I use 10-46 strings recommended by official website, what is wrong with my setup? And I find it so difficult to make it intonation.
If I understood correctly, the old trem could not be raised as an entire single piece. So action adjustments were limited to raising and lowering individual saddles. Now the saddles can be set to the proper radius, and the whole thing can be moved up/down to tweak action. Also, another video on this new system mentioned that the stiffness and upward travel is now adjustable, but I'm not sure if that is new or not.
I like to run my 7s in ADADBGe Just received my Boden original 7 with a trem and anytime I try to downtune it throws everything off. Should I use more springs to counter that? Or will I need to block the trem off so it only goes downwards?
Two years late, but you’re probably gonna have an easier time blocking off the trem if you downtune often. I would figure if you do a downtune for a set, you could downtune the one or few strings at least one whole step and be fine without having to adjust intonation as long as you’ve been setting it up with the same gauge strings
Paul Kasper can you add a brass block on your own or it won’t fit on these guitars? I installed one on my floyd but no clue about this setup at all. And sucks cause I do want a strandberg but for price should have a brass block. Good point.
You just changed the main reason I was going to buy a Strandberg. Knife edges may work but why would anyone even ever think to use that method over a needle bearing system? Eventually a knife edge is going to wear out and lose tune. If the only issue is making it easier to adjust string height then I would either create a housing that still uses needle bearing system that is adjustable or live with the minor issue of adjusting each string. I hope you give your customers a choice of which tremolo system they want...
Okay but what about the knife edge? Very poor design from the beginning. Here's an idea use rods where the knife edge would be and have the posts have a protruding section to accept the rod. This way you can still easily adjust the post in the same way. I'm giving that to you for free how about that!
Indeed! The original justification for designing the entire Strandberg vibrato WAS the elimination of knife edge in favor of needle bearings! I'm like, "What in the heck is going on!"
I kinda thought the same thing initially but now after having taken all the hardware apart and examining how it all works and assembles and dis assembles while swapping pickups, it's really not rhat bad. Worst case scenario, youd be replacing the worn knife edge posts and knife edge receivers in the actual bridge. Both of which are extremely easy to remove.
As a (far less renowned) guitar designer and builder, I cannot wrap my head around the way the intonation on these guitars is adjusted. It seems incredibly hit or miss.
I don’t own one of these, but it seems the same as for a Floyd Rose from the video. Not as convenient as on a fixed bridge but it’s not that hard either
@@tiagomartins5755 The fact that you can't set the intonation with the strings on just seems wild to me. I had instances back when I was a touring musician when, for example, my preferred gauge of strings wasn't available and I would tweak the intonation as a matter of course after restringing. With the Strandberg, you'd have to string up, tune to pitch, see the deviation, loosen the string, adjust the saddle, retune, check again, and then hopefully(?) get it bang on, and if not, repeat that process over again using what I can only call dead reckoning. Seems crazy to me. Maybe Ola's ideal is that you'll never change your string gauge or adjust the action (at the bridge) once the set up is complete, but that just isn't realistic. I would love to tinker with one these guitars for a few hours though, and they are great looking/well designed otherwise.
Adjustments with the guitar on its back is fine for the purpose of demonstration but, you should instruct viewers to actually perform these adjustments in the playing position. The things that hold me back from trying/buying this guitar is the Endur-neck that "guides" where my thumb should go (according to the inventor) and that gd zero fret. I have a zero fret on a slightly pricey Steinberger and it SUCKS. The plain strings dig grooves in it after a few months and the "clinky-clnky" happens. A stainless steel fret was put in. It lasted about 2-3 months longer before failure. The nut behind the zero fret on the Strandberg may partially restrict side-to-side movement but, the groove problem will still occur over a relatively short period of time. The zero fret needs to be fired into space along with the Les Paul tuner/headstock arrangement.
Can you please NOT photograph black trems on black backgrounds? Makes it near impossible to see what's going on. Do some closeups on the items where you're using a wrench... Have a pro help you with the lighting on these vids.
0:32 Overview of the Rev 5 Tremolo
3:05 Tools and where they fit on the bridge
7:00 Checking the relief of the neck
7:40 Adjusting the action
8:54 "Stopping" the tremolo before adjusting intonation
11:03 Checking and adjusting intonation
15:00 Not enough slack to adjust intonation properly: Ola's solution
16:38 Removing the improvised trem-stopper and re-tuning
Do a video outline of the mouth smacking he does.
Thank you Mr. Strandberg for the tip adjusting the floating bridge!
Congrats on the 2017 lineup Ola, I can't wait until the day when I can get a Strandberg guitar!
I don't even own a Strandberg yet I'm just watching these because I'm excited to eventually get one
I kept thinking my cell phone was interfering with my speakers until I stopped the video.
Hello Ola, after several years of lusting and drooling over your guitars i fI ally have one! A Boden standard 6 string with the tremolo(bengal burst), and I’m unimaginably in love with it! Light and perfectly balanced! Is it true that the standard line pickups are manufactured by the good folks at suhr ?
Thank you for making amazing pieces of functional art
And thank you to Chris letchford and plini for the inspiration
And to diffusion audio and Guitar Brando for making it available to me here in Canada!
Already planning for my next one!
Everything of everything about the EGS Pro Tremolo 5 you have to know! From Ola itself. Tnx a lot!
I changed strings to the same gauge (10s) on my plini sig and I think im at 2mm on the low e and 1mm on the high e in height. The bridge looks a little tilted upwards and the trem cannot flutter like it used to. should i loosen the spring tension and raise the global height of the bridge to compensate?
In needle bearing tremolo the housing could be mounted over a traditional mounting posts with studs and it could have been height adjustable like a floyd rose posts.
Just did my first string chance on my classic 6 trem and this video was my saviour! Thank you so so much guys for being so supportive and thinking if us idiots haha!
Two suggestions: I worry about stripping the holes for the trem claw screws if you tighten and loosen them every time you change strings. Replacing the trem claw screws with bolts that go into a threaded insert would mean this never becomes a problem. And I don't know how to fix it, but it sucks that the string has to be loose to move the saddle to adjust intonation. It would be far preferable if the saddle could be moved with the string under tension.
Señor Strandberg, muchas gracias!
Can figure out why but whenever I try to whammy flick the trem is hitting something inside adjusted just about everything and completely reset it up in circles for 6 hours with no luck
I see soo many people taping change and picks together to block trems during tunning. One would think that in this day and age where technology such as 3d printers and cnc maching exist, that the manufactures would just make a part or insert to to address such a matter... just a thought.
If you look at the older design prototypes on the old website, you'll see exactly such a feature built in to at least one iteration of a vibrato bridge.
Has anyone found a problem with the strings falling out of the tuner mounting screws?
I don't own one but I'm super interested in how everyone keeps their strings stably on their bridge with this particular system.
Will it fix string buzz ? cause lately my high string in high fret start to buzz
Hey is this tremolo for sale in case l’d like to replace my old tremolo? I actually would like to ask if there is a 7 string on the market for sale?…- let me know please if so (or send me a link where l could go and place my order)- but for a 7 string please.. Thank you.
Ola,
How would you recommend fixing a nick in the zero fret? I recently purchased a standard 6 and I’m not sure if the dent was there when I bought it or if I did it but the zero fret had a dent at the b string
How would you recommend fixing that?
My dealer recommended 800 grit sandpaper then polishing with 1000 or 1200 grit
Does that make sense?
Love your guitars ( already have another one on order!)
I'd always check the harmonic agains't the fretted note in your usual playing position (at least if you're adjusting your own guitar). The way shown usually works fine, of course, but in my opinion/experience the position is also a factor because you normally use a different pressure in playing position and your fingers also are in a different position. And if adjusting in playing position you can compensate for that (if necessary, and if you're a nerd;-)).
The more I watch these Steandberg setup videos, the less inclined I am to purchase one. That method of adjusting the intonation is _so_ labor intensive, and is non incremental, meaning you cannot visually monitor the adjustment sweep. It's a bafflingly bad design.
fantastic guitar!! Proud Owner here! is it possible to cover the coils of the back of the guitar or this will interfere with the tremolo?
Thanks
Where is possible to tune heigth for each string and is it possible buy the tremolo?
Do Stromberg guitars come with a manufacturer's date stamp on them?
What is the real difference between the rev 5 and the rev 7?
Which guitar frets is it suitable for. Fanned or Normal???😏
Very detailed, very informative, very good video... But man - He's entertaining like valium.
Great Ola, thanks for the video ;-) !!!!!!
So happy for you success !!!
I have just brought a Korean 6 strings tremolo guitar. I can't get the saddle at guitar level when I use 3 springs in the back, so I install 4 strings. I use 10-46 strings recommended by official website, what is wrong with my setup? And I find it so difficult to make it intonation.
Ola, I would like to know if the hangers you have are commercial ones or did you made them ? Looking for solutions to hang my strands :)
where can i get the wall hanger for the guitars?
I wish I could buy one of those terms to install in my current guitar.
If there was nothing wrong with the last trem, why change to this one? And did the last trem had centering issues?
If I understood correctly, the old trem could not be raised as an entire single piece. So action adjustments were limited to raising and lowering individual saddles. Now the saddles can be set to the proper radius, and the whole thing can be moved up/down to tweak action. Also, another video on this new system mentioned that the stiffness and upward travel is now adjustable, but I'm not sure if that is new or not.
I like to run my 7s in ADADBGe
Just received my Boden original 7 with a trem and anytime I try to downtune it throws everything off. Should I use more springs to counter that? Or will I need to block the trem off so it only goes downwards?
Two years late, but you’re probably gonna have an easier time blocking off the trem if you downtune often. I would figure if you do a downtune for a set, you could downtune the one or few strings at least one whole step and be fine without having to adjust intonation as long as you’ve been setting it up with the same gauge strings
Refision 5 Ola? New, but still no brass block... why? As you guitars have no headstock, where does the sustain comes from?
Paul Kasper can you add a brass block on your own or it won’t fit on these guitars? I installed one on my floyd but no clue about this setup at all. And sucks cause I do want a strandberg but for price should have a brass block. Good point.
That's actually kinda easy. It never came from the headstock. All physical bodies resonate.
look like ibanez zr?
How do I adjust the individual heights though
The individual string height is adjusted by raising or lowering the individual saddle screws, using a flat-headed screw driver.
What's the difference between this EGS pro and the one that comes on the Boden Standard?
I know this is late, but I'll answer anyway. There is no difference. All Bodens come with the same hardware, minus the pickups.
11:41 is the key!
You just changed the main reason I was going to buy a Strandberg. Knife edges may work but why would anyone even ever think to use that method over a needle bearing system? Eventually a knife edge is going to wear out and lose tune. If the only issue is making it easier to adjust string height then I would either create a housing that still uses needle bearing system that is adjustable or live with the minor issue of adjusting each string. I hope you give your customers a choice of which tremolo system they want...
Okay but what about the knife edge? Very poor design from the beginning. Here's an idea use rods where the knife edge would be and have the posts have a protruding section to accept the rod. This way you can still easily adjust the post in the same way. I'm giving that to you for free how about that!
wat?
Indeed! The original justification for designing the entire Strandberg vibrato WAS the elimination of knife edge in favor of needle bearings! I'm like, "What in the heck is going on!"
I kinda thought the same thing initially but now after having taken all the hardware apart and examining how it all works and assembles and dis assembles while swapping pickups, it's really not rhat bad. Worst case scenario, youd be replacing the worn knife edge posts and knife edge receivers in the actual bridge. Both of which are extremely easy to remove.
so where can I buy EGS Pro Tremolo Rev 5?
Turn the noise gate on!
The hell is that noise?
it's his mobile phone receiving, trasmitting, or changing network cell; mine does it, too, yours ditto.
Cell Phone ringing
His mouth smacking noise is what kills me…
8 bit helicopter
Someone likes the Gotoh trem arm holder!
what's the new model
As a (far less renowned) guitar designer and builder, I cannot wrap my head around the way the intonation on these guitars is adjusted. It seems incredibly hit or miss.
I don’t own one of these, but it seems the same as for a Floyd Rose from the video. Not as convenient as on a fixed bridge but it’s not that hard either
@@tiagomartins5755 The fact that you can't set the intonation with the strings on just seems wild to me. I had instances back when I was a touring musician when, for example, my preferred gauge of strings wasn't available and I would tweak the intonation as a matter of course after restringing. With the Strandberg, you'd have to string up, tune to pitch, see the deviation, loosen the string, adjust the saddle, retune, check again, and then hopefully(?) get it bang on, and if not, repeat that process over again using what I can only call dead reckoning. Seems crazy to me.
Maybe Ola's ideal is that you'll never change your string gauge or adjust the action (at the bridge) once the set up is complete, but that just isn't realistic.
I would love to tinker with one these guitars for a few hours though, and they are great looking/well designed otherwise.
Should jave used a white drop cloth
Hey Ola. Do you have a brass bigger trem block! Thanks.
Man, it’s a futuristic guitar with quite a lot of maintenance
Thanks.. now I know I won't get a floating tremolo Korean Strandberg!! I was looking forward to the needle bearing.
Black background wasn’t the best choice in retrospect
Adjustments with the guitar on its back is fine for the purpose of demonstration but, you should instruct viewers to actually perform these adjustments in the playing position. The things that hold me back from trying/buying this guitar is the Endur-neck that "guides" where my thumb should go (according to the inventor) and that gd zero fret. I have a zero fret on a slightly pricey Steinberger and it SUCKS. The plain strings dig grooves in it after a few months and the "clinky-clnky" happens. A stainless steel fret was put in. It lasted about 2-3 months longer before failure. The nut behind the zero fret on the Strandberg may partially restrict side-to-side movement but, the groove problem will still occur over a relatively short period of time. The zero fret needs to be fired into space along with the Les Paul tuner/headstock arrangement.
Black tremolo bridge on a black table background ......... uh, no.
better old version
For future videos please keep your phone away from audio eqiupment.
I like Ola and his guitars are awesome but the lip smacks make it impossible to watch
STOP KISSING!!!
$2,000+ guitar...yeahhh once in awhile the bridge goes crooked, just grab it and slap it back into place.
Are you trying to say that Ola is a dishonest person and peddles crap gear for a high dollar ?
Whatever
Can you please NOT photograph black trems on black backgrounds? Makes it near impossible to see what's going on. Do some closeups on the items where you're using a wrench... Have a pro help you with the lighting on these vids.