My MLLSE Rx5700XT is reaching a year of utilization. I have no negative stuff to say about it, an absolute trooper, plays all i have in Medium/High settings with respectable temperatures without UVolt. Tech prices in Chile are always higher than MSRP, but for CLP $160000, equivalent to $150-$170 in American Rubles, by far one of the best buys i've made. Plus, the shipping took a week and a half.
@@Ilikedagames-rf2fx Unfortunately,you are mistaken. The Russian repair people got a lot of that "Piladen" made stuff, very,very faulty. So,they send an representative to the plant itself - and he saw there completely bad stuff being made. "It's another"sticker" brand. I can find a discussion about it, but,it in Russian.
I have purchased a total of two products from HP. The experience has been enough to determine that I will actively avoid them for the foreseeable future. I bought a desktop when I was still a bit shy about building a system (with a 5500 in it) I ABSOLUTELY did not understand the garbage I was buying yet. The specs were "okish" but even during the crisis I'm pretty confident I could have put together a higher performance system. But the issue with them isn't performance, the 5500 and Ryzen CPU were fine, it was the absolutely unnecessary proprietary nature of the system, like I understand that maybe having IO soldered to the motherboard simplifies manufacturing, there is legitimately no reason for the PSU to be entirely proprietary, like PSU form factors that are smaller than ATX already exist and creating a proprietary form factor takes MORE effort than using an existing one that can be easily replaced and extend the usefulness of the rest of the system, also a proprietary mobo power connector makes it difficult to use an external PSU if you would be willing to, and ALSO serves no practical purpose. Upgrading one of these systems is a headache that is legitimately NOT worth it. I bought SSD storage from them, but it was faulty, died within a month. Overall my experience is that they mostly manufacture future e-waste that doesn't respect the end user. Never again.
Thank God I've pulled the trigger on an "Elsa Rx 5700xt" for 134€ (VAT included) a year ago. Thing looks as new and works flawlessly. Nowadays it comes in at least 165€ and the shitty used GPU market in Italy still lags behind UK/US/Aus standards.
Really, what are prices like in the mainland? I just got a 4070 ti for £650 which already felt like a ripoff, but what your saying makes me feel like I should count my blessings. How much would something like that cost in the EU?
Yes, this is the best type of content on this channel. Now, i would love to see more of these rebranded older GPUs and some nice comparisons between them. Or maybe some nice super low budget builds with these or direct comparisons between really bad recent GPUs like the 3050 6GB, RX 6500 XT and these.
Yup! I'd be curious to see him do a run through of all of these newer Aliexpress variants. Currently, the hierarchy is 5500XT @ ~$145 CAD, 5600 @ ~$160 CAD, 1660 Super @ ~$200 CAD, and RTX cards @ ~$250 CAD and above.
Your last point is a good one, for an opposite reason for Americans at least. Here in the USA, import taxes are really uncommon as long as what you buy is for personal use and not too expensive. So at $80~ it seems pretty reasonable value. I wonder how it stacks up to a 1660S/TI, as those used to commonly be around $100 on eBay. They might perform better but those two extra gigs of vram might make frame pacing a bit more stable. You should also consider for these benchmarks on games like TLoU showing low settings with high textures to see if the game can be made to look better and if doing so comes at a fps penalty.
I bought a SOYO rx 5700 xt about a year ago. Sadly, despite being a triple fan design, it still has heat issues. It used to crash during demanding games, before I placed a few 120mm intake fans near to it, to keep it cool. Now it runs perfectly fine. So whole these cards do work, if it's sth power hungry like a rx5700xt, i suggest you do take a close look at the cooler before you pull the trigger.
There's also a desktop RX 6600M, which I bought out of curiosity. There's no fan speed control (on max or off), and you can't change vram frequency in Adrenaline software, other than that it's fine. Curiously, those RTX 20/30M needs unofficial drivers, but for some reason AMD ones don't? I wonder why...
Yesterday I bought a second hand MSI RX 5700 XT Mech OC for 160€ on Kleinanzeigen and now my Asus RX 580 Arez is retired. I'm satisfied with performance of my "new" graphic card, Cyberpunk 2077 on high settings (1080p) 75 FPS, with RX580 on medium settings (1080p) around 60FPS. The Division 2 on high settings (1080p) 113FPS and with RX580 medium settings (1080p) around 80FPS. My PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, Gigabyte B450M S2H, 2*8GB DDR4-3200 Corsair Vengeance LPX, 1TB SanDisk Ultra 3D NVMe, 2TB SSD Crucial BX500, 650W be quiet! System Power 10 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze, Win10Pro
The MLLSE RX5700XT for $193 CAD is the biggest no-brainer on the internet as far as I'm concerned. However, I also bought two SOYO versions ($176 CAD each) and they're currently caught in shipping hell, so buying direct from China may be a gamble from time to time.
First world people use to shit on Aliexpress but this was our savior here in Brasil couple months ago, now this importation thing got screwed up by the government and who suffers are us, mere morthals being doomed to buy second hand gpus. Great video as always, Iceberg!
@@dimasguerreiro Not good, we also had this issue in the UK when we left EU, no tax before, after leaving EU 20% tax added, not as big as Brazil tax though!
@@AlexHusTech Things here are brutal, I've seen people getting triple the price of a 100$ gpu in taxes, and 300$ isnt a fortune for the first world but 2000 R$...ohh boy thats moneh
I was picking up the oem 5500 back during the gpupocalypse for relatively cheap. People were over looking them. I built a few PCs for my nephews for minecraft and what-not. They work great.
For those who don't know, MLLSE and ELSA brands are cheaper subdivisions of asrock and powercolor graphics (or xfx, I don't remember), that where intended for the Chinese market, the cards are the real amd cards but with lesser binned gpus and possibly cheaper vram modules Some of them have the exact same coolers and designs, just the brand name on them are different Also some of them have the same vbios on them, with the original brands name and all, and some are just slightly altered vbios to match the lower binned components
ELSA is an independent Japanese company and MLLSE is an unlicenced gpu brand that remanufacture and repackages gpu's. They are not related to any of the companies you have listed.
The RX 5500 / 5500 XT 8GB were (ironically) similar in performance to the legendary RX 580…just like a certain “successor” [cough cough] RX 6500 XT. Considering the 5500 / 5500 XT were intended to be “entry level” performance for AMD’s RDNA 1 lineup. Meaning they were directly competing with Nvidia’s previous gen 1050 & 1050 Ti, but managed to be slightly better than the 1060 6GB. That being said, it really depends on which model you got since the RX 580, 5500, AND 5500 XT all had 4GB and 8GB variants. I personally had an RX 580 8GB for the longest time, and I still miss it for how long it’s remained a relevant GPU for 1080p gaming. It’s honestly sad that it’s now in legacy support. Meanwhile there are triple fan / dual slot 6500 XTs for $140-175
I recently bought an unused mini-ITX Dell OEM RX5600 6GB non-XT which outperforms this card and it's hard to find any reviews of it... but I'm pleased anyway. 😊
i have the rx5700xt from 51risc, but is quite good, obviously it comes with powercolor on the card side and have been used for minig, but it has ben mostly stable both on windows and linux
I've ordered a MLLSE RTX 2060 Super for £140 to replace my RX580 2048. I'm still really impressed with the RX580 for £50. It'll run Baldurs Gate 3 on 1080p Ultra without any issue. Only upgrading it to push my budget 1155 system to the max
Not bad for a budget card, but if going for a Navi 1 card I would choose rx5700 (recently got myself gaming x with warranty for €100). After that do some nice UV, because it's where they shine. And there we have a little faster rx6600 with similar power consumption.
I'm curious what you don't trust about Frankendrivers? You've seemed to be receptive to the third party NimeZ drivers for AMD cards, what's setting off the warning bells about the Frankens?
Oooh nice, I never knew that I will check it out, I have the same 5500 and Soyo 5500XT, the aliexpress advert said that the CUDA core for 5500 was 2530, where as XT was 1408, pretty sure the ad is incorrect! Just realised I'm subbed to your channel :)
I watching this on an HP RX 5500 XT. I got it on ebay for 75 dollars or so. It's a fun card. Why am I watching a review of a video card on that card? Who knows, it seems to make no sense. LOL.
I thought of buying a Peladn Rx 5500xt because it was cheap, and I had a Gigabyte 5500xt previously, and I loved it, then I changed my mind (didn't want to buy Chinese refurbished GPU) increased the budget and got a Gunnir arc a770 (also love it)
I just bought one a couple months ago and can't complain. I have given up on trying to chase the newest thing. I think these GPUs might be just fine for awhile unless we something drastic like mandatory hardware RT support.
how is that obsolete? im looking to buy a rx5500 8gb to replace my rx470 4gb, and the only reason i want an upgrade is because these 4gb of vram aren't enough to play modded beamng.
My brother has the 5500xt, completely overkill for e-sports which is all he plays but goes nicely with a 1080p 165hz display. It does struggle with AAA games though as we are trying to play dying light 2 and he has to set the graphics to 1080p lowest with fsr2 balanced to get 60fps locked.
These seem to be some sort of aliexpress special as the normal OEM RX 5500 only comes in a 4 gb variant unlike the XT. Makes me wonder how long until we start seeing RX 5700 XT with 16 GB
I bought a PELADN RX 5600 (OEM) off a major US retailer's website, but i had to RMA it. The second one was also DOA so I opted for a refund, but maybe you can get one that is good and take a look at it. I think it's a decent value and similar to your RX 5500 (OEM) ideally, but performance should be much better.
Great review, maybe you could compare these aliexpress cards to each other to see which ones are the best bang for buck (and also add some "regilar" gpu to compare it as well)
My biggest qualm with buying these types of cards is the lack of warranty support. If these are used re-manufactured boards (which seems likely) I doubt their shelf life is very long and good luck getting a replacement. Great video as always but this is not a product I'd buy.
I was going to say that the RX580 8GB 2048sp remains relevant for budget gamers thanks to the custom drivers out there. Then I remembered how un-user friendly the installer for the R .ID drivers is. I'd like to consider myself fairly tech savvy but that installer had me going "WTF is going on here?"
I am running an RX 5600XT and no complaints. I am scratching my head as to why AMD thought cutting the RAM by 2GBs was a good idea for a higher tier card though. Seems like an odd move.
@@harrybryan9633 I mean sure that helps in some regards and does matter but I think AMD's experiment with HBM proves that doesn't solve everything. This is also an issue when games also set graphics settings based on the amount of VRAM and not the bus speed. So even in cases where the buffer in theory could be cleared fast enough it still locks out come features.
the RX 6600 is available for $165 US, I'm afraid this is the minimum entry to modern Triple A gaming, you have FSR 3 and AFMF, the 5000 series cards are soon to be discontinued as far as drivers as the 500 series has already been retired, outside of E-sports and moderate 1080 p gaming, I wouldn't expect too much from this card
I think the only reason that these word-soup brand RDNA cards has to do with something buildzoid noticed started being a thing with GCN cards... not so much the HD 7k series but definitely from the R9 Fury, Vega and Polaris. A lot of the _counterfeit_ were using modified vbioses on much older cards to fool the stock driver to install and recognize them as they were pretending to be. But with newer Radeons it is a case where if the vbios doesn't match up with what the card itself has, it isn't a case of it needing a modified driver, so much as *it won't fucking POST* at all. In short, the vbios and product have to be right for newer radeons to function.
I remember looking at these cards for a backup card and the PELADN cards unironically LOOK GOOD. They're actually way better looking stylistically than many big name brands and that makes me want to see them succeed
Yeah I investigated in this quite awhile back on my 5700 and 5700XTs, all had modded BIOS, it's to reduce the heat mostly as they cards run quite hot, as time goes more voltage is needed to keep the card stable, this generates more heat@@aldb7577
I got this for my son, its a PELADN brand, when I threw up the good old GPUZ, it showed it as a "ASUS RX 5500xt... Sooo, does that mean this is a Frankenstein ex miner?
@@not1but2and37 Not me but my brother. It was RX 580 one from Aisurix i believe, bought from "Official" Online Store. Runs fine for 2 weeks and then the pc just won't boot. Thankfully he was able to return the card and got his money back...
@@AlexHusTech It would be not. In general, 5500XT is slightly faster on PCIe 3.0 than 6500XT, and slightly slower on PCIe 4.0. Regular 5500 is slower few percent than 5500XT, so it would not have advantage over 6500XT even on PCIe 3.0 .
AMD drivers are more open source and community made drivers are a thing. Nvidia supports only the latest gen and driver updates usually made things worse for older cards. This is my experince and reason to go full AMD. :D
There's no clear-cut answer to that. For one thing, AMD is currently supporting back to 2016 and Nvidia to 2014, but roll back just a couple of years and both brands were supporting as far back as 2011. That being said, AMD is known for terminating support on stuff very early in its life cycle, and Nvidia is known for "stealth nerfing" products, i.e. maintaining driver updates but not actually implementing updates or optimisations. So... I guess they both kinda suck?
ngl these brand are a welcome on regards budget builds, i jsut hope they built a solid foundation of trust for their cards, GPU brands are reputable in contrast to monitors w/ shite quality
I never expected to see the goodfellas in a gpu video. Plus the woman in the intro who I have no idea where is she from. Well done for that too. I really don't see how the AMD fanboys accept the limited (in years) support AMD gives to their GPUs. Last AMD GPU I bought was the HD6850 back in....2010? Or something, and I had no idea it was so bad compared to Nvidia. To give you an example since my PC died few days ago, I have to use my 2014 laptop because I can't buy anything, It has a GTX 860M. Which is STILL supported with new drivers. Imagine if Nvidia was AMD in their driver support. I would be fraked. Good video, thanks for sharing.
I used an RX 570 with a Ryzen 3400g scalped from a prebuilt during the pandemic for literally years, was perfectly fine had no issues. Even with Cyberpunk or Forza Horizon 5. Honestly, you can have your opinion but driver support for a laptop GPU is nice, but not something to brag about. AMD drivers currently support four generations of card. RDNA 1-3 and Polaris, of which RDNA 1-2 are currently without argument, the best GPUs you can buy, new or used, at their respective price points. More VRAM goes a long way.
As someone who uses, owns, builds and buys computers since the early 1980s, I do have my opinions as of course you do too. Driver support is for me a huge thing. Simply stating generations doesn't mean that much without checking the number of years. There are people like myself who lately have found themselves in a hard spot without the option to get new hardware. Having Nvidia supporting with drivers my 10 year old GPU, IS important. I don't care how good or not AMD GPUs are. If I can't buy one, how does that affect me? Not that I agree with you they are the best GPUs. Power consumption still sucks for AMD GPUs and if I had money to buy a new system and/or GPU, I know that would be enough for me to not, yet again, buy an AMD GPU. To each their own.
I didn't say it would be the best option for you, if it came off that way, I apologize for the confusion. What i'm trying to get across is that AMD is a good option(the best option)if buying new or used at a lower price bracket. Not trying to argue. If you don't want or need RT or need Nvidia hardware for specific reasons, the best option for now and the past two years has been AMD because bang for your buck is out of control good compared to their direct competitors. Also I think the best GPU of all time is the 1080Ti so even as an AMD fan I show respect where it's due. Supporting a 10 year old laptop gpu is rad.@@TrusteftTech
@@FalseOracle617 I do not disagree with you that AMD GPUs are performing very well and for the money perhaps even better. When taking into account pure rasterization (I hate this word). I used to own desktop and mobile AMD/ATI GPUs/Graphics cards. For me it's not an issue of lack of performance. Performance is obviously important and I don't doubt someone who buys AMD GPUs will be satisfied with them. I do wish them and AMD the best. BUT, for me if AMD doesn't start supporting their GPUs for as many years as Nvidia and doesn't do something about the much higher power consumption, it's a no go. I am not asking them to beat Nvidia, but when depending on the GPU and workload we can see even 50% higher power consumption for about the same performance (not counting RT), then no. Also as I said if I had bought an AMD based laptop in 2014, when would the last drivers for it be released? AMD is already cutting support for GPUs released in 2017. I am guessing the 2014 mobile GPUs were cut off years ago. IF AMD wants to come out as the more fair, more attractive alternative to Nvidia, they need to fix this. GPUs are not mobile phones. If I come out as slightly rude, I apologize. It has nothing to do with you or the way you reply to me. It's just that's how I speak/type, plus I am in a really bad mood so politeness is not my top priority right now. Either way, it was a fun exchange, thank you for your input and your time. Have a fun weekend.
which is best budget motherboard for ryzen 5 7600 im not gonna overclock or anything but maybe i can upgrade to r7 7700 in future like after 2-3 years . Is asrock b650 hdv m.2 ok for me? . And what is the difference between gigabyte b650m ds3h and just b650 bs3h why 30 dollar more . Please Please reply my question .
Nah, I'll wait for 12GB RX 5600XT & 16GB RX 5700XT from AliExpress. Let's see if those sellers can double the VRAMs of those cards. Probably will need those for Linux gaming machine.
Honestly losing support just means for upcoming games but if you're okay with playing games only up to what came out during it's lifetime just keep the last driver and you're still good using even polaris. A lot of recent games are not even exciting anyway so might as well play through a bunch of older games
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My MLLSE Rx5700XT is reaching a year of utilization. I have no negative stuff to say about it, an absolute trooper, plays all i have in Medium/High settings with respectable temperatures without UVolt.
Tech prices in Chile are always higher than MSRP, but for CLP $160000, equivalent to $150-$170 in American Rubles, by far one of the best buys i've made. Plus, the shipping took a week and a half.
american rubles? didnt know they existed
American Rubles 🤣
Excuse me, American trade for goods and services occur exclusively in American Burgers
@@smith7602burgers and bullets you mean
@ajaakola2 Ew if millimeters. Based if calibers.
I actually bought a peldan 5500xt recently for my dad as a birthday present (he plays games that doesn’t need a ton of gpu power) and it runs great.
Peldan is a REAL junk,you could not pick a worse one.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises Confidently wrong. Opinion = rejected.
@@Ilikedagames-rf2fx
Unfortunately,you are mistaken.
The Russian repair people got a lot of that "Piladen" made stuff, very,very faulty.
So,they send an representative to the plant itself - and he saw there completely bad stuff being made.
"It's another"sticker" brand.
I can find a discussion about it, but,it in Russian.
@@DuneRunnerEnterpriseshey man if it runs Dolphin Emulator and WoW it’s good enough for him
@@skyz6789 Thats quite a mock for the rx 5500, i mean a even a old rx 550 can run those easily.
1:30 "printer cartel: HP" lol
It's true though.
I have purchased a total of two products from HP.
The experience has been enough to determine that I will actively avoid them for the foreseeable future.
I bought a desktop when I was still a bit shy about building a system (with a 5500 in it)
I ABSOLUTELY did not understand the garbage I was buying yet.
The specs were "okish" but even during the crisis I'm pretty confident I could have put together a higher performance system. But the issue with them isn't performance, the 5500 and Ryzen CPU were fine, it was the absolutely unnecessary proprietary nature of the system, like I understand that maybe having IO soldered to the motherboard simplifies manufacturing, there is legitimately no reason for the PSU to be entirely proprietary, like PSU form factors that are smaller than ATX already exist and creating a proprietary form factor takes MORE effort than using an existing one that can be easily replaced and extend the usefulness of the rest of the system, also a proprietary mobo power connector makes it difficult to use an external PSU if you would be willing to, and ALSO serves no practical purpose.
Upgrading one of these systems is a headache that is legitimately NOT worth it.
I bought SSD storage from them, but it was faulty, died within a month.
Overall my experience is that they mostly manufacture future e-waste that doesn't respect the end user.
Never again.
@@pptemplar5840 I saw some people with brand new HP laptps and all the crap they have pre-installed it's insane!
Hello fellow icebergian aficionados!
I love watching Iceberg's intro clips get slightly more unhinged as time goes on
I love this channel
Thank God I've pulled the trigger on an "Elsa Rx 5700xt" for 134€ (VAT included) a year ago. Thing looks as new and works flawlessly. Nowadays it comes in at least 165€ and the shitty used GPU market in Italy still lags behind UK/US/Aus standards.
I had the Elsa 5700 very good card!
How much time ago did you bought it, i'm really worried about the corrosion issue seems like many of them stop working after some time
Sempre AliExpress? Ti ricordi i quale shop l'hai comprata?
Really, what are prices like in the mainland?
I just got a 4070 ti for £650 which already felt like a ripoff, but what your saying makes me feel like I should count my blessings.
How much would something like that cost in the EU?
@@MsMarco6 800 Euros (Main Western Europe)
Yes, this is the best type of content on this channel. Now, i would love to see more of these rebranded older GPUs and some nice comparisons between them. Or maybe some nice super low budget builds with these or direct comparisons between really bad recent GPUs like the 3050 6GB, RX 6500 XT and these.
Seems like a good idea! Gives me some ideas for myself.
Yup! I'd be curious to see him do a run through of all of these newer Aliexpress variants. Currently, the hierarchy is 5500XT @ ~$145 CAD, 5600 @ ~$160 CAD, 1660 Super @ ~$200 CAD, and RTX cards @ ~$250 CAD and above.
Your last point is a good one, for an opposite reason for Americans at least. Here in the USA, import taxes are really uncommon as long as what you buy is for personal use and not too expensive. So at $80~ it seems pretty reasonable value.
I wonder how it stacks up to a 1660S/TI, as those used to commonly be around $100 on eBay. They might perform better but those two extra gigs of vram might make frame pacing a bit more stable.
You should also consider for these benchmarks on games like TLoU showing low settings with high textures to see if the game can be made to look better and if doing so comes at a fps penalty.
For 70-80 bucks I guess it's okayish
It’s the new RX 580 (maybe)
Compared to recent official cards these are pretty great. With these, you can build an actual low end pc without used hardware.
I got a Chinese brand 5700 XT for 100$ on AliExpress
It's an 8GB GTX 1650 Super
Just bought a 5500xt 8gb used for 78👍🏻
i have a MLLSE 5500xt and 6600 they both work great and they were cheap and the shipping was fast to the middle of the us
*I have this one too, I will test it against my SOYO 5500XT soon*
Is it lasting? how much time ago did you bought it?
@@thelonestar_0336 Came last week, I bought loads of GPUs from Ali, longest one I had was over a year, which was a 3060TI, no issues.
Not long, I bought loads of ali GPUs over the years, no major issues @@thelonestar_0336
@@YusefYoyoman I've not done a comparison but done tests etc on Fortnite and it's pretty good.
@@YusefYoyoman Aw man, it should be covered for return so do that asap
I bought a SOYO rx 5700 xt about a year ago. Sadly, despite being a triple fan design, it still has heat issues. It used to crash during demanding games, before I placed a few 120mm intake fans near to it, to keep it cool. Now it runs perfectly fine.
So whole these cards do work, if it's sth power hungry like a rx5700xt, i suggest you do take a close look at the cooler before you pull the trigger.
Just bought an "ELSA" 5700 (non xt) for my second rig. Should arrive tomorrow. £95, that'll do.
ELSA? I had this card, great card!
@@AlexHusTech actually yes Elsa. Lol. Corrected above thanks.
@@griff5476 You won't be disappointed I changed BIOS and got it close to XT performance.
Did you flash an xt bios onto it?
Where did u find it so cheap?
5500xt was a hell of a card! I have the 5600xt and 5700xt! Solid cards still in 2024
YES - you want to review one of the RTX m cards with the Frankendrivers.
I would recommend the RTX 2070m.
There's also a desktop RX 6600M, which I bought out of curiosity. There's no fan speed control (on max or off), and you can't change vram frequency in Adrenaline software, other than that it's fine. Curiously, those RTX 20/30M needs unofficial drivers, but for some reason AMD ones don't? I wonder why...
Yesterday I bought a second hand MSI RX 5700 XT Mech OC for 160€ on Kleinanzeigen and now my Asus RX 580 Arez is retired. I'm satisfied with performance of my "new" graphic card, Cyberpunk 2077 on high settings (1080p) 75 FPS, with RX580 on medium settings (1080p) around 60FPS. The Division 2 on high settings (1080p) 113FPS and with RX580 medium settings (1080p) around 80FPS. My PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, Gigabyte B450M S2H, 2*8GB DDR4-3200 Corsair Vengeance LPX, 1TB SanDisk Ultra 3D NVMe, 2TB SSD Crucial BX500, 650W be quiet! System Power 10 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze, Win10Pro
I got the 5500 XT for 50$ and I love it
The MLLSE RX5700XT for $193 CAD is the biggest no-brainer on the internet as far as I'm concerned.
However, I also bought two SOYO versions ($176 CAD each) and they're currently caught in shipping hell, so buying direct from China may be a gamble from time to time.
I have the SOYO 5700xt (and the SOYO RTX 2060 Super). I have been pleased with both of them.
Iceberg called it, RDNA 1 is the new Polaris and will be able to play modern games at 1080p for years to come
First world people use to shit on Aliexpress but this was our savior here in Brasil couple months ago, now this importation thing got screwed up by the government and who suffers are us, mere morthals being doomed to buy second hand gpus. Great video as always, Iceberg!
Huge tax?
@@AlexHusTech Yep, shit gone through the rough
@@dimasguerreiro Not good, we also had this issue in the UK when we left EU, no tax before, after leaving EU 20% tax added, not as big as Brazil tax though!
@@AlexHusTech Things here are brutal, I've seen people getting triple the price of a 100$ gpu in taxes, and 300$ isnt a fortune for the first world but 2000 R$...ohh boy thats moneh
@@dimasguerreiro Yeah cruel governments, the leeches!
I was picking up the oem 5500 back during the gpupocalypse for relatively cheap. People were over looking them. I built a few PCs for my nephews for minecraft and what-not. They work great.
First gen navi cards performs great in Alan Wake 2 with the modified community drivers for some reason.
I bet it emulates some parts of the DX12 Ultimate for those older cards in code
"printer cartel.. HP" 🤣
For those who don't know, MLLSE and ELSA brands are cheaper subdivisions of asrock and powercolor graphics (or xfx, I don't remember), that where intended for the Chinese market, the cards are the real amd cards but with lesser binned gpus and possibly cheaper vram modules
Some of them have the exact same coolers and designs, just the brand name on them are different
Also some of them have the same vbios on them, with the original brands name and all, and some are just slightly altered vbios to match the lower binned components
Thanks, learn something new everyday.
these are just rebranded mining gpus
ELSA is an independent Japanese company and MLLSE is an unlicenced gpu brand that remanufacture and repackages gpu's. They are not related to any of the companies you have listed.
stop yapping and spreading misinformation dumas
The RX 5500 / 5500 XT 8GB were (ironically) similar in performance to the legendary RX 580…just like a certain “successor” [cough cough] RX 6500 XT. Considering the 5500 / 5500 XT were intended to be “entry level” performance for AMD’s RDNA 1 lineup. Meaning they were directly competing with Nvidia’s previous gen 1050 & 1050 Ti, but managed to be slightly better than the 1060 6GB. That being said, it really depends on which model you got since the RX 580, 5500, AND 5500 XT all had 4GB and 8GB variants. I personally had an RX 580 8GB for the longest time, and I still miss it for how long it’s remained a relevant GPU for 1080p gaming. It’s honestly sad that it’s now in legacy support. Meanwhile there are triple fan / dual slot 6500 XTs for $140-175
I love being in a TH-cam tech space so small they all use each others videos for reference
For the past few days I've been watching your videos and enjoying the calm feeling and chuckling at the mini jokes
Good video, but please don't use FG for future benchmarks, the results are very misleading since it increases latency.
So, we upgraded my buddy from a 580 4Gb to one of these. It did really well. OCd like a dream. Just my experience.
I recently bought an unused mini-ITX Dell OEM RX5600 6GB non-XT which outperforms this card and it's hard to find any reviews of it... but I'm pleased anyway. 😊
i have the rx5700xt from 51risc, but is quite good, obviously it comes with powercolor on the card side and have been used for minig, but it has ben mostly stable both on windows and linux
I've ordered a MLLSE RTX 2060 Super for £140 to replace my RX580 2048.
I'm still really impressed with the RX580 for £50. It'll run Baldurs Gate 3 on 1080p Ultra without any issue.
Only upgrading it to push my budget 1155 system to the max
How is it bro
Not bad for a budget card, but if going for a Navi 1 card I would choose rx5700 (recently got myself gaming x with warranty for €100). After that do some nice UV, because it's where they shine. And there we have a little faster rx6600 with similar power consumption.
Just went to check it, apparently,you can get the same card, with higher price,and 2 year warranty.
That could be an interesting long-term project.
I'm curious what you don't trust about Frankendrivers? You've seemed to be receptive to the third party NimeZ drivers for AMD cards, what's setting off the warning bells about the Frankens?
It could actually be not mobile chip with modded bios - it could be actually reflashed Radeon PRO W5500 - which is literary just RX 5500 with 8GB
I have a Sapphire Pulse 5500XT 4GB paired a watercooled intel i5 9600 runs almost everything as long as texture setting is optimized
why would you watercool a 9600?
@@toseltreps1101 because it was free hehe
@@f-35x-ii the BEST reason of all 🥳
I think most people here wouldn't get that pal and ntsc joke.
Rumor is they were W5500s bought en masse and reflashed to RX 5500s.
Did it run at PCIe 4.0 x8 or x4?
Oooh nice, I never knew that I will check it out, I have the same 5500 and Soyo 5500XT, the aliexpress advert said that the CUDA core for 5500 was 2530, where as XT was 1408, pretty sure the ad is incorrect!
Just realised I'm subbed to your channel :)
I watching this on an HP RX 5500 XT. I got it on ebay for 75 dollars or so. It's a fun card.
Why am I watching a review of a video card on that card? Who knows, it seems to make no sense. LOL.
3:53 "this feels like Im about to get mauled by a tiger"
I thought of buying a Peladn Rx 5500xt because it was cheap, and I had a Gigabyte 5500xt previously, and I loved it, then I changed my mind (didn't want to buy Chinese refurbished GPU) increased the budget and got a Gunnir arc a770 (also love it)
Still remember buying my Rx 5600 XT in early 2020. Now it has been considered obsolete. How time flies!
I just bought one a couple months ago and can't complain. I have given up on trying to chase the newest thing. I think these GPUs might be just fine for awhile unless we something drastic like mandatory hardware RT support.
how is that obsolete? im looking to buy a rx5500 8gb to replace my rx470 4gb, and the only reason i want an upgrade is because these 4gb of vram aren't enough to play modded beamng.
@@white_mageIs there a 8gb version for Rx 5500? I believe 5600 only has 6GB version.
@@soldiersvejk2053 the 5500 xt has an 8gb variant
For a "New" graphics card to actually be reasonably performant at that price really is something quite impressive!
Great content. People should get this now while its still cheap.
Nobody is playing Alan wake!
Had the 5500 8gb version,made by Sapphire.
Nice one.
My brother has the 5500xt, completely overkill for e-sports which is all he plays but goes nicely with a 1080p 165hz display. It does struggle with AAA games though as we are trying to play dying light 2 and he has to set the graphics to 1080p lowest with fsr2 balanced to get 60fps locked.
If only aliexpress' search function wasnt garbage. Sometimes it shows 100% unrelated products or 6 pages or replacement fans
You could have one of these plus an E5-1650V4/MB/RAM combo for around $200.
These seem to be some sort of aliexpress special as the normal OEM RX 5500 only comes in a 4 gb variant unlike the XT.
Makes me wonder how long until we start seeing RX 5700 XT with 16 GB
I use a rx5700 with a 5 3400g OCd at 4.0ghz cang wait to get my 5 5600 and yeah it works really well for now and is gonna run better with the 5 5600
At those prices, very sure to tempt a lot, if they can still get them before the vendors hike the prices following the review.
I bought a PELADN RX 5600 (OEM) off a major US retailer's website, but i had to RMA it. The second one was also DOA so I opted for a refund, but maybe you can get one that is good and take a look at it. I think it's a decent value and similar to your RX 5500 (OEM) ideally, but performance should be much better.
Bit of advice, make the benchmark bigger, it's really small in the corner there
Great video, the wattage for this cpu ? Wicho power supply would You recomend? Thanks in advance
Not sure if I just can't find these cards at these prices because searching on aliexpress sucks or if they're just not sold to the US at these prices.
these brands where the 1st option of me being able to afford a mid-range gaming card other than the 2nd hand option
Great review, maybe you could compare these aliexpress cards to each other to see which ones are the best bang for buck (and also add some "regilar" gpu to compare it as well)
My biggest qualm with buying these types of cards is the lack of warranty support. If these are used re-manufactured boards (which seems likely) I doubt their shelf life is very long and good luck getting a replacement. Great video as always but this is not a product I'd buy.
How's it OC? Is it locked down in any way?
SOYO's RX 6600M next!
I was going to say that the RX580 8GB 2048sp remains relevant for budget gamers thanks to the custom drivers out there. Then I remembered how un-user friendly the installer for the R .ID drivers is. I'd like to consider myself fairly tech savvy but that installer had me going "WTF is going on here?"
I am running an RX 5600XT and no complaints. I am scratching my head as to why AMD thought cutting the RAM by 2GBs was a good idea for a higher tier card though. Seems like an odd move.
Bus width.
@@harrybryan9633 I mean sure that helps in some regards and does matter but I think AMD's experiment with HBM proves that doesn't solve everything. This is also an issue when games also set graphics settings based on the amount of VRAM and not the bus speed. So even in cases where the buffer in theory could be cleared fast enough it still locks out come features.
the RX 6600 is available for $165 US, I'm afraid this is the minimum entry to modern Triple A gaming, you have FSR 3 and AFMF, the 5000 series cards are soon to be discontinued as far as drivers as the 500 series has already been retired, outside of E-sports and moderate 1080 p gaming, I wouldn't expect too much from this card
there are even some rdna 2 re-manufactured graphics cards
I think the only reason that these word-soup brand RDNA cards has to do with something buildzoid noticed started being a thing with GCN cards... not so much the HD 7k series but definitely from the R9 Fury, Vega and Polaris. A lot of the _counterfeit_ were using modified vbioses on much older cards to fool the stock driver to install and recognize them as they were pretending to be. But with newer Radeons it is a case where if the vbios doesn't match up with what the card itself has, it isn't a case of it needing a modified driver, so much as *it won't fucking POST* at all. In short, the vbios and product have to be right for newer radeons to function.
your vids are always really well made, and you don't swarm us with sponsors, thanks Iceberg!
I remember looking at these cards for a backup card and the PELADN cards unironically LOOK GOOD. They're actually way better looking stylistically than many big name brands and that makes me want to see them succeed
I really prefer to take a chance and buy a second-hand gtx 1660 or a vega 56 in my country with that price, around €100
I bought a brand new, still sealed in box XFX RX 470 Black Edition for $60. Good deals are out there. Just gotta find them :)
I'd rather have one of these as they will have newer drivers in the future.
@@Luke357 Very fair point since they're very close in price.
I bought a 5700 for 105€ over 6 months ago on AliExpress, still the best bang for the buck Card. And it somehow Just uses around 100w while Gaming.
Because it's been capped via a BIOS update
@@AlexHusTech maybe IT hast to, because Theres Not much rooms for oc on this Card sadly.. thats why they are so cheap.
Yeah I investigated in this quite awhile back on my 5700 and 5700XTs, all had modded BIOS, it's to reduce the heat mostly as they cards run quite hot, as time goes more voltage is needed to keep the card stable, this generates more heat@@aldb7577
Been seeing those on Amazon lately. I may take a gamble and get one to replace a limping RX 480.
Won't be much better, maybe 8gb but that's it.
i cry everytime ises ALan Wake 2 benchmarks and have toughts of what if there's an option for the game not to have mesh shading
what about 6600M GPU? Yes, they made a gPU out of a notebook one, consumes 30W less and is 3% weaker, i have one for more or less 2 years, please test
I got this for my son, its a PELADN brand, when I threw up the good old GPUZ, it showed it as a "ASUS RX 5500xt... Sooo, does that mean this is a Frankenstein ex miner?
Honestly good for HTPC builds
Whatever happened to The Rivals’ benchmarks on these latest videos? 😂
this kind of card is about longevity honestly....
Is this from experience?
@@not1but2and37 Not me but my brother. It was RX 580 one from Aisurix i believe, bought from "Official" Online Store. Runs fine for 2 weeks and then the pc just won't boot. Thankfully he was able to return the card and got his money back...
1:26
Been a long time since I seen a 390x anything
You should add Helldivers 2 to your test line up.. just saying 😏
I guess its kinda a rx570/580 with supported drivers?
How would this compare to an rx6500xt 8gb version?
5500 would be better, the 64BIT bus width on the 6500XT cripples it.
@@AlexHusTech It would be not. In general, 5500XT is slightly faster on PCIe 3.0 than 6500XT, and slightly slower on PCIe 4.0. Regular 5500 is slower few percent than 5500XT, so it would not have advantage over 6500XT even on PCIe 3.0 .
@@aleksazunjic9672 You are right, thanks. I checked benchmarks.
I thought i was sold on frame gen but after using it for awhile i just turned it off scaled down to 1080p. To many stuttery moments.
Is it correct that AMD supports its graphics cards for a shorter period of time than NVIDIA?
Seems like is as driver support for polaris models has stopped.
AMD drivers are more open source and community made drivers are a thing.
Nvidia supports only the latest gen and driver updates usually made things worse for older cards.
This is my experince and reason to go full AMD. :D
It's usually the other way around.
There's no clear-cut answer to that. For one thing, AMD is currently supporting back to 2016 and Nvidia to 2014, but roll back just a couple of years and both brands were supporting as far back as 2011. That being said, AMD is known for terminating support on stuff very early in its life cycle, and Nvidia is known for "stealth nerfing" products, i.e. maintaining driver updates but not actually implementing updates or optimisations. So... I guess they both kinda suck?
@@woldemunster9244 AMD cards are also really well supported on linux, even older ones that no longer get official updates in the windows drivers.
the mllsee rx6600m is the most interesting one imo
ngl these brand are a welcome on regards budget builds, i jsut hope they built a solid foundation of trust for their cards, GPU brands are reputable in contrast to monitors w/ shite quality
I never expected to see the goodfellas in a gpu video.
Plus the woman in the intro who I have no idea where is she from.
Well done for that too.
I really don't see how the AMD fanboys accept the limited (in years) support AMD gives to their GPUs. Last AMD GPU I bought was the HD6850 back in....2010? Or something, and I had no idea it was so bad compared to Nvidia.
To give you an example since my PC died few days ago, I have to use my 2014 laptop because I can't buy anything, It has a GTX 860M. Which is STILL supported with new drivers.
Imagine if Nvidia was AMD in their driver support.
I would be fraked.
Good video, thanks for sharing.
I used an RX 570 with a Ryzen 3400g scalped from a prebuilt during the pandemic for literally years, was perfectly fine had no issues. Even with Cyberpunk or Forza Horizon 5. Honestly, you can have your opinion but driver support for a laptop GPU is nice, but not something to brag about. AMD drivers currently support four generations of card. RDNA 1-3 and Polaris, of which RDNA 1-2 are currently without argument, the best GPUs you can buy, new or used, at their respective price points. More VRAM goes a long way.
As someone who uses, owns, builds and buys computers since the early 1980s, I do have my opinions as of course you do too. Driver support is for me a huge thing. Simply stating generations doesn't mean that much without checking the number of years. There are people like myself who lately have found themselves in a hard spot without the option to get new hardware. Having Nvidia supporting with drivers my 10 year old GPU, IS important. I don't care how good or not AMD GPUs are. If I can't buy one, how does that affect me? Not that I agree with you they are the best GPUs. Power consumption still sucks for AMD GPUs and if I had money to buy a new system and/or GPU, I know that would be enough for me to not, yet again, buy an AMD GPU.
To each their own.
I didn't say it would be the best option for you, if it came off that way, I apologize for the confusion.
What i'm trying to get across is that AMD is a good option(the best option)if buying new or used at a lower price bracket. Not trying to argue. If you don't want or need RT or need Nvidia hardware for specific reasons, the best option for now and the past two years has been AMD because bang for your buck is out of control good compared to their direct competitors.
Also I think the best GPU of all time is the 1080Ti so even as an AMD fan I show respect where it's due. Supporting a 10 year old laptop gpu is rad.@@TrusteftTech
@@FalseOracle617 I do not disagree with you that AMD GPUs are performing very well and for the money perhaps even better. When taking into account pure rasterization (I hate this word). I used to own desktop and mobile AMD/ATI GPUs/Graphics cards. For me it's not an issue of lack of performance. Performance is obviously important and I don't doubt someone who buys AMD GPUs will be satisfied with them. I do wish them and AMD the best. BUT, for me if AMD doesn't start supporting their GPUs for as many years as Nvidia and doesn't do something about the much higher power consumption, it's a no go. I am not asking them to beat Nvidia, but when depending on the GPU and workload we can see even 50% higher power consumption for about the same performance (not counting RT), then no. Also as I said if I had bought an AMD based laptop in 2014, when would the last drivers for it be released? AMD is already cutting support for GPUs released in 2017. I am guessing the 2014 mobile GPUs were cut off years ago.
IF AMD wants to come out as the more fair, more attractive alternative to Nvidia, they need to fix this.
GPUs are not mobile phones.
If I come out as slightly rude, I apologize. It has nothing to do with you or the way you reply to me. It's just that's how I speak/type, plus I am in a really bad mood so politeness is not my top priority right now. Either way, it was a fun exchange, thank you for your input and your time. Have a fun weekend.
The incliner is back
which is best budget motherboard for ryzen 5 7600 im not gonna overclock or anything but maybe i can upgrade to r7 7700 in future like after 2-3 years . Is asrock b650 hdv m.2 ok for me? . And what is the difference between gigabyte b650m ds3h and just b650 bs3h why 30 dollar more .
Please Please reply my question .
The difference is size, m means mATX. HDV m.2 seems fine though
6:26 I see what you did there
Sounds like something alex hus tech would buy
looooooool i have this made a shorts video a few days ago!
@@AlexHusTech might have swiped on it😅
The loud music just makes me dance lol
Nah, I'll wait for 12GB RX 5600XT & 16GB RX 5700XT from AliExpress. Let's see if those sellers can double the VRAMs of those cards. Probably will need those for Linux gaming machine.
They are probably salvaged directly from the HP PCs they came with.
Bigger companies swap laptops and PCs like underwear. I profit from it too :D
Honestly losing support just means for upcoming games but if you're okay with playing games only up to what came out during it's lifetime just keep the last driver and you're still good using even polaris. A lot of recent games are not even exciting anyway so might as well play through a bunch of older games
I've been looking at a rx6600m off AliExpress for around £130. seems like a cheap way for some decent performance and lols
Thanks for the video! Was thinking about GPU from Ali, but in reviews people are complaining about corrosion after 3+ month.
I've not had any issues with any of mine, maybe depends of the store.
I bought a RX 5500xt of soyo some time ago
"Western word generator apps" 😆 So true.
wouldn’t it be home brand?