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Ive got an apple message pad 2000 with a new back light and someone rebuilt the battery pack for me to so it works great and I have the rare mac sycn cable as well to take it out to ADB
5:10 - On Newton OS, you have to configure in settings to recognize _either_ "handwriting" _or_ "cursive". If you have decent cursive, its cursive recognition is pretty damn good. (In fact, Newton OS 1.0 *ONLY* recognized cursive.) The problem is if your cursive *isn't* good, it really struggles. And to "scribble to erase" you have to scribble in "one direction" - a patter like WWWWW - if you ever double-back on yourself, it doesn't erase, as you discovered.
Yeah and we complain about having to open an airpods chest several times over for them to connect to an iphone, without realizing just how sophisticated bluetooth is.
Steve Jobs liked the Newton so much that he canned the whole project! All the Newton developers used the technology and developed Palm PDAs, specifically the PalmPilot.
I just bought an E-mate 300 on Ebay (real cheap because they said it didn't work). And when I got it, it is literally brand new. The screen hinge is so tight, it's hard to open. Well, I have an emate power supply (which it didn't come with) and I plugged it in and (no surprise) it didn't work. After inspecting it, the ram module was missing. I installed one, and it worked FIRST time! I have always loved this device.
I vaguely remember them having us use these in elementary school to type up documents at our desk and then having us hook them up to the macs to transfer our documents.
This makes me miss how cool I thought my Palm III was when I first got it. It was super-impressive at the time. I remember wanting the Newton, but never getting one, but I didn't even learn about the eMate 300 for long after it's time had passed.
The Newton is by far my favorite retro platform. I actually used my eMate in college to take notes. It is great to be able to add drawings inline with text on the fly.
I was fortunate to use these in middle school classes which would be around 2000-01’ and that stylus to text feature never worked right but these do have a special place in my heart
My experience with the Newton comes from playing the X-Files game. The game used an in-game PDA to take notes and send/receive emails, and they used the Apple Newton. The game also supported Mac, so I assumed it was licensed branding
I absolutely loved my Newton. I had a dongle that let me hook it up to my analog cell phone and send faxes. I thought that was the coolest thing around.
I loved my Newton, especially the sound effects. I used to write poetry on it, keeping all the misinterpreted scribbling to generate ever-freer verse. 😂
I hope you did fix the hinge thing (there's a washer over the hinge springs that's too small, so the springs would come loose and puncture the display ribbon)
Ha! 8 6 7 5 3 oh 9! lol! Watching this makes me want to pull out my old Newton. To this day there hasn't been anything close to approaching it. It was designed from the ground up for pen input, and it worked perfectly for what it was designed to do. Sadly, it also wasn't designed to be future-proof, so things like TCP, the web, etc. were just too much for it to handle well, and... well, sadly, while I fussed and fumed and protested back in the day, it was the right decision for Steve to "Steve" it.
I had a Newton 100 (original) in 93 or so. It was hilariously bad at handwriting. Loved the apps though especially the games. I looked for it today, found it, and low and behold with new batteries it fired right up! Thanks for the walk down memory lane.
@@blakksheep736 i’m not really sure why, obviously it’s technically capable, perhaps it didn’t seem necessary, if you have an ipad it’s more than likely u have another device with one anyway
My favorite thing to do with the Newton was to draw a picture of someone and then scribble over their face to cause their head to explode. With the early version of the Newton OS, you could ask it to "find Elvis", and it would tell you where "The King" was.
@@ComputerClan if you find one from the U.K. with a very high (still top?) score in Crystal Quest by ‘Clare’, it’s probably mine that was stolen in the early nineties and I’m still in mourning. Still have the case, discs, manuals, and stickers though. One of the best trackballs I’ve used (and the only way to get high scores on CQ). Used for graphic design (DTP) using Word, Pagemaker, Adobe Illustrator, and Photoshop but postscript printers were few and far between and cost me as much as the Portable had (£3k). It had an impressive but quickly filled 2MB HD so had to offload artwork onto floppies before starting new projects. I upgraded the ram but can’t remember to what now. (Crying softly.)
my scool had some old newton portotypes that had a printer and a tiny screen on it no stylus though it was more like a typewriter but it still had some of the apple keys on it like command and option
i had one of those back in high school around 2001 it was lend by the school district because Im disabled and they thought this would help me take notes and do homework quicker but it just felt like a big pda because I couldn't print my homework or nothing was compatible with it like printers so when I gave it back i was relieved not to have it in my hands
To answer the title question, no I don't remember the eMate, even though I have one. My biggest complaint is that the Newton does not support dates after 2008 without a patch, and unfortunately I could not find such a patch for the eMate. Has one been created in the past few years?
7-year-old me would've loved that computer, especially if it will help with some of the schoolwork. Sadly, I think this device can only sync with a Mac, not a PC. 14:13 The eMac 300 is assuming that it's connected to a modem.
My elementary school had these and we'd take em out on field trips to type on them. I specifically remember going to catalina island and using these. i forget what we actually wrote on them, but the touchscreen wa just janky AF
iPads today: Great, colorful display, can run advanced games without exploding, and you can get a pencil that draws on it realistically (that totally isn’t a ripoff of the Surface Pen) 1:27 Apple Newton MessagePad: I’m proud of you son
Rest assured many other aesthetically ugly devices such as this were common during that dark age time alot of industri design. Today, the stuff is now both ugly AND sticky from the decomposing rubberized coatings.
My grandpa gave me one of these he got it early before it came out when he was a teacher and he cant remember the password is there a way to reset it we looked at all the manuals and got nothing
Thanks Steve for collaborating on another episode! We have another collab in the works… and I have some JUICY scam-busting, and other tech shenanigans, in the works. 😈Subscribe and hit the 🔔so you don't miss it.
Back to you Steve!
Ive got an apple message pad 2000 with a new back light and someone rebuilt the battery pack for me to so it works great and I have the rare mac sycn cable as well to take it out to ADB
5:10 - On Newton OS, you have to configure in settings to recognize _either_ "handwriting" _or_ "cursive". If you have decent cursive, its cursive recognition is pretty damn good. (In fact, Newton OS 1.0 *ONLY* recognized cursive.) The problem is if your cursive *isn't* good, it really struggles.
And to "scribble to erase" you have to scribble in "one direction" - a patter like WWWWW - if you ever double-back on yourself, it doesn't erase, as you discovered.
Yep! Wow, that takes me back. I totally forgot that version 1.0 would only understand cursive writing!
I like how it implies that cursive is not handwriting.
My cursive was illegible no matter how much the teachers had me practice. they eventually gave up and just let me do everything in print.
It's amazing to see how far technology has come. These days, computers hilariously misinterpret your voice commands instead.
Yeah and we complain about having to open an airpods chest several times over for them to connect to an iphone, without realizing just how sophisticated bluetooth is.
17:33 I have a feeling Steve Joe BS will one day succeed Mike Rosoft as head of Spoof OS... One day.
Steve Jobs liked the Newton so much that he canned the whole project! All the Newton developers used the technology and developed Palm PDAs, specifically the PalmPilot.
I just bought an E-mate 300 on Ebay (real cheap because they said it didn't work). And when I got it, it is literally brand new. The screen hinge is so tight, it's hard to open. Well, I have an emate power supply (which it didn't come with) and I plugged it in and (no surprise) it didn't work. After inspecting it, the ram module was missing. I installed one, and it worked FIRST time! I have always loved this device.
5:22 I love how the thing gave up so thoroughly and just slapped in there.
I don’t think I have laughed any harder than JJ Bs! Steve- “Oh that’s job’s nickname you just didn’t know that” LMFAOOOO!!
I loved that part.
HEY JJBS!
Okay, I'm gonna be honest here, the tech behind it is kinda amazing!
That assistant stuff is YEARS ahead of the contemporary devices.
Some say that @Mac84 lives inside a Newton until summoned, like a translucent green genie
If you beam "Mac84" three times to a Newton 130 the backlight will turn on and summon me!
@@Mac84 😂
I vaguely remember them having us use these in elementary school to type up documents at our desk and then having us hook them up to the macs to transfer our documents.
This makes me miss how cool I thought my Palm III was when I first got it. It was super-impressive at the time. I remember wanting the Newton, but never getting one, but I didn't even learn about the eMate 300 for long after it's time had passed.
The "Beat Up Martin" joke XD
The Newton is by far my favorite retro platform. I actually used my eMate in college to take notes. It is great to be able to add drawings inline with text on the fly.
Newton: What is my purpose?
Creator: To sit in a drawer for 24 years waiting for grown men to giggle at you in front of a large audience.
I used one from 2000 to 2006. I used it when teaching. My students loved it. It was especially helpful for doing math with kids.
I was fortunate to use these in middle school classes which would be around 2000-01’ and that stylus to text feature never worked right but these do have a special place in my heart
My experience with the Newton comes from playing the X-Files game. The game used an in-game PDA to take notes and send/receive emails, and they used the Apple Newton. The game also supported Mac, so I assumed it was licensed branding
@3:40 Is that Avi’s Backdrop with a stock Calvin image? Always happy to see my backdrop in use!
This is reminding me of Ashens' fling with the Newton pad where it somehow changed 'Norwich' to 'Worcester'
I almost choked on my lunch because i was laughing so much. Keep up the good work!
@Harinath Nr 11am in my Timezone.
Hooray! I’ve been looking forward to this. Also, there’s a pretty active Newton community with members doing some cool stuff like adding WiFi.
3:27
*Presses the light button*
A PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED (4)
Well you obviously angered it four times
Mandatory fun? Voluntold? Was Ken in the military!? Lol
No he is just a big Weird Al Yankovic fan.
I absolutely loved my Newton. I had a dongle that let me hook it up to my analog cell phone and send faxes. I thought that was the coolest thing around.
I loved my Newton, especially the sound effects. I used to write poetry on it, keeping all the misinterpreted scribbling to generate ever-freer verse. 😂
I hope you did fix the hinge thing (there's a washer over the hinge springs that's too small, so the springs would come loose and puncture the display ribbon)
Ha! 8 6 7 5 3 oh 9! lol!
Watching this makes me want to pull out my old Newton. To this day there hasn't been anything close to approaching it. It was designed from the ground up for pen input, and it worked perfectly for what it was designed to do. Sadly, it also wasn't designed to be future-proof, so things like TCP, the web, etc. were just too much for it to handle well, and... well, sadly, while I fussed and fumed and protested back in the day, it was the right decision for Steve to "Steve" it.
Man it is crazy how far tech has come! That hand writing recognition was something else lol!
Agreed. And it's cool to see how it's still used today in the iPad. Although… I'm still much faster at typing. x_x
Interesting...this came out in 1997 and the iMac G3 came out in 1998...so this product was first to have the transparent color design??
That’s right, it was one of Ive’s first design leads if not the first as well.
I question the word "design".
Alice's Restaurant was actually at 40 Main St., Stockbridge, MA. :D
The Newton had a calculator, while the iPad still lacks one 😅
Yes, yikes.
Even the Nintendo Switch has a calculator, and that's a _gaming console._
it was also a touchscreen laptop, which the macbook is not
I had a Newton 100 (original) in 93 or so. It was hilariously bad at handwriting. Loved the apps though especially the games. I looked for it today, found it, and low and behold with new batteries it fired right up! Thanks for the walk down memory lane.
3:18 I like how all the curvy bezel around the screen doesn't have any electronics in it, just empty.
I love that there’s a viable color screen upgrade for this now 😊✌🏽
I love how Apple refuses to change the most asinine things
“Eat up Martha” is what I expected to see in this video. Almost a must 🤣
So this eMate "tablet" could have a floating calculator, but the iPad Pro with a desktop chip in 2021, just can't handle it yet?
............
handle it is a strong term when there just isn’t a built in calculator app, but there are third party apps to calculate if u need it
@@onigvd77 But why _doesn't_ it have an in built calculator? C'mon! The Nintendo Switch has a calculator and it's a flipping gaming console!
@@blakksheep736 i’m not really sure why, obviously it’s technically capable, perhaps it didn’t seem necessary, if you have an ipad it’s more than likely u have another device with one anyway
4:46 I understood that reference!
Must get my boxed eMate out and running. Thanks for the inspiration guys.
i love the ashens reference :D
My favorite thing to do with the Newton was to draw a picture of someone and then scribble over their face to cause their head to explode. With the early version of the Newton OS, you could ask it to "find Elvis", and it would tell you where "The King" was.
You should make a video on the Macintosh Portable soon! Its my favorite early macintosh and definitely deserves a shot in the spotlight
I would looooove to. Now I just have to get one!
@@ComputerClan if you find one from the U.K. with a very high (still top?) score in Crystal Quest by ‘Clare’, it’s probably mine that was stolen in the early nineties and I’m still in mourning. Still have the case, discs, manuals, and stickers though. One of the best trackballs I’ve used (and the only way to get high scores on CQ). Used for graphic design (DTP) using Word, Pagemaker, Adobe Illustrator, and Photoshop but postscript printers were few and far between and cost me as much as the Portable had (£3k). It had an impressive but quickly filled 2MB HD so had to offload artwork onto floppies before starting new projects. I upgraded the ram but can’t remember to what now. (Crying softly.)
Always been interested by this thing! Thanks!
I used to use one of those for school back around 2004 because I was an ESE student.
I had a newton 2(?).It had a wonderful expense program that still exists on ipod.
This was genius. I love these kind of videos. Your sense of humour is spot on. "because he's dead!" 🤣
Who's watching on the eMate 300's 25th anniversary today? 🙌
the old apple designs had a more cool cyberpunk aesthetic which is awesome but even back then their products were too expensive.
my scool had some old newton portotypes that had a printer and a tiny screen on it no stylus though it was more like a typewriter but it still had some of the apple keys on it like command and option
The scribble feature immediately reminded me of todays iPad scribble. Works the same. :D
I am faster at texting while typing but I love my S Pen, I will only buy note series phones for the simple reason I refuse to give up S Pen features.
Ngl I really like the Newton, especially the laptop.
As limited as a Kindle, and just as slow too. By the way, I like my Kindle a lot. Thanks for the video, very nice and funny!
the video froze just at the BSOD in the intro and it took me a solid 10 seconds to realize that wasnt intentional lmao
Lol.
The original iPad pro
Hi, thanks for this awesome video. Do you know if there is any way of connecting newton to a mac running Big Sur. Thanks
I had one of these at one time. Wish I kept it. I also picked one up from eBay...I wouldn't mind having the MessagePad 2100
i had one of those back in high school around 2001 it was lend by the school district because Im disabled and they thought this would help me take notes and do homework quicker but it just felt like a big pda because I couldn't print my homework or nothing was compatible with it like printers so when I gave it back i was relieved not to have it in my hands
i would love to find one. at a flea market or some yard sale
Always loved that 'Eat up Martha' gag from the Simpsons back in the day ...
Very Neat Guys Had Lots of laughs Watching
Another great video Ken! + It was great to see Steve on the show again 👍
Steve from Mac84 or Steve JJ Bs?
Both. Haha.
It's a CrApple product, you can do something with it. Throw it in the bin.
Yo hunter, take your trashdows and hacrosoft, also scamsung
To answer the title question, no I don't remember the eMate, even though I have one. My biggest complaint is that the Newton does not support dates after 2008 without a patch, and unfortunately I could not find such a patch for the eMate. Has one been created in the past few years?
Nice video Ken, I loved it so much!
Im very lucked to own one of these, now I need to figure out how to replace the battery so it can hold a charge again
7-year-old me would've loved that computer, especially if it will help with some of the schoolwork. Sadly, I think this device can only sync with a Mac, not a PC.
14:13 The eMac 300 is assuming that it's connected to a modem.
I remember using this stuff back in the days 😁
Sorry, but the Newton eMate 300 must have slipped my mind.
Hey Ken, maybe you can do a video about your iMac that was sitting for a while on the background!
I have one too. Good fun for a bit.
The Newton interface is so cute
My elementary school had these and we'd take em out on field trips to type on them. I specifically remember going to catalina island and using these. i forget what we actually wrote on them, but the touchscreen wa just janky AF
2:42 imagine just quitting the video HAHA
I’m so glad that teal plastic and bubble design language went away. This thing looks like a set extra from The Little Mermaid.
I really wanted to have one of these, especially without keyboard, I think it’s really cool.
I kinda like the idea of an Apple product having a built in Blue Box.
Where did Steve84 get his t-shirt from? I so need that in my life
it was great to meet you at the computer festival. i got kicked out for inappropriate behaviour after :( hope to go back again sometime
iPads today: Great, colorful display, can run advanced games without exploding, and you can get a pencil that draws on it realistically (that totally isn’t a ripoff of the Surface Pen)
1:27 Apple Newton MessagePad: I’m proud of you son
You guys see the video where someone ported Freeverse’s Jarod (butcher or song) to Newton OS? It’s worth looking up.
Our school had these 😂
I remember three people in my grade in Primary school having these due to 'learning difficulties'. Don't think it helped them much at all
Rest assured many other aesthetically ugly devices such as this were common during that dark age time alot of industri design. Today, the stuff is now both ugly AND sticky from the decomposing rubberized coatings.
Sorry abkut the typos. Habdset kegbkards are all garbage and i stkpedncaring to ckrrect.
Has anyone ported DOOM to it yet?
Wow, so much of the Apple pencil’s functionality was available so long ago!
Such a shame you couldn't send a fax to Steve Jo BS, he was probably waiting to hear from you
12:54 your voices merge into a perfect tritone
I’ve been trying to find my moms eMate for years she says she never got rid of it but no luck so far.
My grandpa gave me one of these he got it early before it came out when he was a teacher and he cant remember the password is there a way to reset it we looked at all the manuals and got nothing
I was totally expecting "Eat up Martha."
If only...
12:05 and 12:13 this is were it starts a laugh I mean the first was tocs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and jjbs 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where did @mac84 get that cool shirt?
How can I reset my password? There doesn't appear to be a battery on the motherboard of the Newton. HELP ME?
Lol steve came out of no where
This eMate could have been a great device back then. If only they improve it for a couple more years…
I'm learning qauck noises
Jo BS is the Tiger King.
0:28 How has the ModBook company not been sued by Apple
Because it was basically modified OG MacBook, it is legal in American law