My Dirtiest Macintosh - Macintosh IIvx (But Does it Work?) - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- The Macintosh IIvx was Apple's last Macintosh II model, and it was the first Mac with a built-in CD-ROM drive. Krazy Ken recently acquired one, but when he opens it up, things go from bad to worse…
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*laughs as the progress bar jumps while he pushes in the paper clip*
Yeah. Great timing! x_x
Crazy Ken curse
Computer Clan LOL
@@ComputerClan *insert sad mac here
I laughingly said “watch it work now that he gave up”, then it does and he ejects it 😅😔😭 #KrazyKenCurse
14:16 of course he didn't realize that the disc drive in the mac actually was about to boot as all the icons and loading bar appeared on the monitor then he ejects the disc without realizing
That was so painful to watch 😂.
Lol i usually do stupid stuff like that too but I regret it later xd
Wasn't it almost booted at 14:18 seemed to me as if it went very fast just before the paperclip came into action
Yeah, I was like: Wait!
Exactly
My thought exactly :P
Came here to say the same thing - he was just impatient.
Yeah
Everyone gangsta till Ken and Colin gets macOS Catalina running on it.
FlamingKillerMC im sorry this is irrelivent but your profile pic made me realize that my stepdad is a lying shit. He told me 4 years ago ghat he made that picture(it was my desktop background) and now i know its not his bc its everywhere on google
@@joshuajefford3323 child
Yes! This case and the IIci case would make cool cases for a Mac build.
@@decm8 ?
@@KennethPlaysOfficial I have 0 recollection calling this person a child. Maybe my phone dropped, hit an autocorrect suggestion and sent the message? Who knows.
Forget the grounding strap. That iFixIt kit needs a hazmat suit for that Mac.
After watching this, I whole heartedly agree.
And a Geiger counter to see if it’s spewing out any radiation
Unrelated to the topic but I love seeing the intro change over time, it’s nice to see that it isn’t completely static!
Thanks for noticing! : )
Same, I love the little changes as clips from new episodes get added :) attention to detail like that is so nice
Oh I don’t watch the videos in order I just go all random
But I at least know the intros change lol
14:11 The saddest part of him trying to get the CD out right then is if you look at the monitor it was actually going that time; The progress bar was moving and the extensions (?) were loading!
While I was born during the early XP-era of Windows, I grew up using Windows 98SE on an old Pentium 3 gateway machine. Eventually got Windows 7 on a custom built i3-3220 and yeah. Here I am now rocking Ubuntu 19 and Windows 10 on my Dell G5 5587.
Well, I'm boer at windows 98 era, but till 2008 I stuck at pentium 1 with windows me 😂
After that I tried to upgrade it with windows xp, but it always stuck at 100% Cpu usage, and finally it dead at 2010 😂
@@harifrp lol
That death chime sounds just like a game machine I heard at a beachside arcade
14:17 oh noooo, it almost booted
Oh, by the way, the IIvx CAN actually run 8.1, with a bit of software sorcery: www.macintoshrepository.org/1518-born-again
So, the old Macintoshes, basically, anything 68k and PPC, ran a lot of the actual system software from ROM, and the OS would just patch it if needed. Originally this was done to run an OS that, frankly, wouldn't have been able to fit into the RAM most consumers had at the time. Memory was *expensive* back then.
Unlike most PCs, where the BIOS mostly just acts as a layer between your OS and the hardware, doing just enough to tell the software how to get itself hooked up with the hardware, the "toolbox" contained a lot of the actual resources the OS used to function. The Macintosh ROM actually shared address lines with the RAM, it was so integral to the system's operation.
What's interesting here is that most of the time when you can't run a later revision of the OS, it's because it relies on something in the "toolbox" that doesn't exist on the older Macs. As it turns out, people figured this out back in the day and started making software that patched the ROM at boot, loading whatever the system needed to run into RAM.
Here's another tool every retro mac owner should have in their arsenal: www.macintoshrepository.org/22236-wish-i-were-
Basically, this thing lies to the software about what your Mac's ID is. It can allow for some shenanigans, I almost got 8.6 running on a Quadra 950 with a powermac card using that, and some other tricks... At least before my house burned down aaand I lost my entire Macintosh collection.
WOW so, I just caught this video 4 years after you made it. But man did you bring back memories for me. I was working at Computer City in Troy, MI. when the Macintosh IIvx and IIvi came out. The IIvi was not available in the US. it was either Europe or Canada only. Nonetheless, we were unboxing the demo unit for the store. We hooked up a pair of Altec Lansing (clamshell style) speakers to the IIvx. Of course we turned those speakers up pretty loud. Pressed the power button and the IIvx powered up and the start up chime rocked the store everyone in the store wanted to gather around to see what the commotion was about. I remember a co-worker saying oh that's just a New Macintosh being started. We loaded a then demo video from Pixar called "Pencil Test." To show off the video capabilities of the IIvx Which later became a part of Pixar's Introduction blimp used at the beginning of each Pixar animated movie. I remember we had to load the IIvx with at least 16 MB of Ram at the time. Often times before we opened the store for the day and closing we would play music CD's in the IIvx. While I liked the IIvx technology, I was still a Quadra 700/IIci guy myself. I never got used to the case of the IIvx which later became the Quadra 650.
Been looking for one of these to add to my collection here in the U.K but they are so rare to find . Keep up the amazing work Ken ! Love it ❤️
I have one.
Looking for someone who wants it
@@karendeehenningerwhere are you located
@@georgwalt7978 eastern pennsylvania
Ken: *rants about the internal CD-ROM drive not working*
Me who's watching the progress bar moving:
LOL
The first Mac I ever bought was a Performa 600CD which was this Mac without the math coprocessor. It had a CD300 with a tray. Everyone was mad at Apple for releasing this Mac a few months prior to the Centris 650, which was the 68040 version of the IIvx. Not only was the Centris faster it was less money by about $200. This was prior to SJ’s return when Apple would just throw Macs at the wall to see what would stick. I just managed a clean install of 7.6 on my LCIII with no CD, just a SCSI Zip drive, the floppy images on my 7.6 CD’s Apple Extras folder and Disk Copy 6. Good times.
cool I'm too young tho
14:20 at this moment im GOING CRAZY because its going farther then ive seen it before in the boot and HES EJECTING IT
13:52 "It's like it wants to work. Just, really slowly." - Yeah same for me.
Just before you plugged in the external disc drive, I saw the monitor get to the point of loading extensions..... so I don’t think it was a drive issue...
Yeah… that was bad timing. It did nothing for about 10 minutes, and then of course… RIGHT WHEN I LEAVE TO GET A PAPERCLIP, it starts working. x_x
@@ComputerClan The cdrom may be really dirty or have a weak laser. The very first time you powered it up and it spit the disk out right away, it was simply resetting its PRAM. That behavior is normal if it has a dead battery.
Thích computer to
My first os was red hat, pressed a button on my primary schools server
Power supply: Kabom?
All of the computer: Yes cabo Kabom
6:40 got a Dell Inspiron 2010 model that had spent 6 years outside. No rust. No bugs. Just a nasty power supply.
good
My first color Mac was the Performa version of this computer (Performa 600CD). I loved it. It was my main computer for about 6 years and then for our children for a couple years. I upgraded it with a logic board to the Quadra 650 at one point (a much better computer for much less--the big fiasco that was the IIvx). I still have about a half-dozen caddies for the CD drive.
The old SCSI hard drives used to suffer from a problem called "stiction". You could usually revive one of these by twisting them by holding the drive from above, and twisting along the angle of rotation, to loosen the stuck platters. Once the drive was spinning, it would keep spinning, but let it sit for a couple days, and the lube thickened.
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I like the new backdrop! :)
That Guy Andrew thank you. I think the bare, cold, grungy concrete really brings out my skin tones.
i'll try to make it! love ya, krazy ken
Are you from the central time zone??
@@alexandersteele4212 Me? Yes.
I didn't expect the music from the Macintosh boot up speed test you did to play at 22:12. That's nostalgic.
Oh nice. You've been around for a while then!
OMG the Oscar the Grouch Extension! That was a favorite of mine is System 7!
12:18 *Mac Splits Installation Disc*
Ken: Oh!
18:06 Thats what she said... sorry, couldn't resist. Great video man. I get so many machines that are just barely alive, fun to get them back in better shape.
OMG! That joke was almost as dirty as the Mac. : o
P.S. Are you interested in buying my Blackmagic camera? Since you brought it up earlier, I wanted to ask before I list it elsewhere. : )
YOU EJECTED THE DISC WHEN IT WAS STARTING TO BOOT!!!!!!11111!!1
“I see your trying to eject a cd, do you want some help?”
Haha
@@ComputerClan real or sarcasm??
@@ronaldddoooo What?
@@ComputerClan the way u react is it real?
that death and start chime they are memories
I am into vintage restoring. I have restored portable, 1400c, 3400, 190c, g4, meh forget them all. That Mobo needs to be cleaned stat and recapped. I'd be happy to do it at cost and attempt a winter retro-brite. I'd be happy to video the progress as well.
I would never junk it ; ) Thank you for the offer! I would like it fixed up, especially if it's on video. I have no immediate plans for it, but you have been noted.
@@ComputerClan cool, I'm very serious in the offer. I get my components from digi-key and use nichicon ceramic polymer caps. I can also send you some pictures of my work for reference. I really enjoy the work as a hobby but my wife is not appreciating the collection I'm gathering so fixing someone else's will be like getting to drink beer without the hangover.
I highly recommend sending that Mac to a professional to get repaired, recapped, and cleaned up because it is only a matter of time before that thing will kick the bucket with all that nasty crap in it.
That's pretty much what I was thinking
Ken:how you doing
Me:horrible
Ken:THATS GREAT
nice to see one of those again :) I was in high school in the until 1995, and we had one of these in our senior computer lab. We also had a PowerMac 6100 right next to it or at least on the same desk at the front. it was pretty cool to see where technology was going at the time and things were starting to take off as QuickTime movies, CD-ROMs and digital cameras were still very new things
Honestly the Mac death chimes were so unsettling and slightly creepy and still are
That screen jump on the monitor is a sign of a failing flyback transformer in the CRT analogue board
8:54 ME WHEN I GO TO SLEEP
Wouldn't've been surprised if bats flew out of the case when you opened it up! Dirty, dirty Mac! Cool to see it working at the end!
This was over all a good video and my first os was redhat 5.2 deluxe on an old Pentium 4 machine when I was 4. WTH were my parents thinking.
that's cool actually
21:36 oh I love trash
Jason, you are absolutely fantastic. We miss you!
THIS! I took out a loan to buy one of these IIvx! SO happy to see it live again!
i didn't even know the first cd Macintosh, very epic!
I was SO MAD when you didn't notice it was working. I was literally POINTING at the progress bar!
0:29 - We'll probabally be fine. Famous last words, especially from you Ken!
I know, right?
12:27 - I like that, "Have Fun With The Death Chime" - creepy 8-bit chime, I'm going to make that a Beat!
18:57
Linus Sebastian 2.0 😂😂
Windows 10 helps
When I used to repair computers for schools 7.6.1was my favorite OS
Krazy Ken's Corrosion Sensation
I thought it was a tad funny that you tried to use the paperclip right as it was actually booting fine off the internal drive anyway!
that green stuff Ken, is the circuit board
i know of a recording studio in my city that has pretty much every mac ever made in storage. im not positive its all still there because its been a decade or more since ive been there, but they specifically only used apple products, and upgraded every single time a new model came out from the 80s to now. it would be an appletubers dream.
Do tell me… where is this city?
@@ComputerClan you know, let me see if i can get in touch with the owner and ask him if hed be interested in showing some stuff off. ive always thought it would make an awesome video. video, audio, and cgi stuff all over.
I've had this problem before when I built my PC, which is when i found out that my PSU is defective.
I really like this kind of videos. My experience with Apple computers is close to zero, and the models from the 90s (as well as Classic Mac OS) seem so appealing to me. Like, I don't get any excited about current Apple products, but that era somehow seems to interesting. Thanks for this awesome content!
You're welcome. I feel similarly. : )
It would be cool to have the 8 bit guy restore that!
This was my first computer. This video is bringing back a lot of nostalgia for me.
Thanks for watching! I love a good nostalgia trip.
The first computer I used was most likely a PowerMac G3 of some speed. Was the family computer until 2004-2005 or so when a CD exploded in the CD drive. It was then replaced with a powermac G4 500 with 2gb of SDRAM, 2 30gb hard drives, 2 video cards, and a DVD drive. It was eventually chucked out and replaced with a iMac G5 in 2011.
The first computer I owned was a Dell Latitude C600 that I got in 2005-2006. Pentium 3 850, 256mb SDRAM, ati rage 128 pro 8mb, 14” 1024x768 screen, and a 10gb hard drive. I then got a dell vostro A860 in 2008. (And then it gets boring from there)
I didn’t have a PowerMac G4 until mid this year, was able to pick up a 500mhz DP machine, with a (sadly dead) Radeon 9000 pro, 128mb ram, 27gb hard drive, and a DVD/RAM. I wasn’t too happy with it’s cosmetic condition so I got another G4 in better condition but this was only a 450 SP machine with 768mb of ram. What set this machine apart was that it had a dual PCB professional capture card made by media100. Both of the machines work fine but I’ll probably gut the DP 500 for parts and then swap the motherboard, CPU and PSU into the machine with the professional capture card.
That paperclip situation... the computer knows! It makes deals with the curse!!
Am I the only one hearing those Psycho violines playing in the background when that "Power Supply" showed up?
I think the Apple System Profiler only worked on PowerPCs, or maybe '030-'040 Quadra/Centris models. I only used one 68k Mac, an LC II or III, when I was young: my knowledge of them is fairly limited.
That said: Yeah… cleaning it might be a good idea.
20:31 sad mac icon
If youre gonna fail, fail with style........
13:28 the best part
First GUI OS I ever used was GS/OS for the Apple IIgs.
Good thing you mentioned the IIci! :D
I had (and still have) The Grouch on my first ever Mac, the Mac Plus!
It doesn’t hurt to learn your basic power supply topology, or just basic soldering for replacing capacitors.
14:14 heyyyyyyyy....it was working....you haven't noticed.....
19:16 add an SSD lol 😂
I don't even use apple products other than an iphone anymore but this shit is always such a fun watch, I wish I knew what macs I used to use as a kid at school :( It vaguely looked like this, I just remember it being beige with a monitor sitting on it.
Your mention of the 6100 makes me sad, my PRAM battery leaked all over the motherboard and ruined it, if only I knew why it had troubles booting randomly 😭
Maybe it will start booting up whenever you want it to if you clean it. Heres this for a start...
For the corrosion, you can clean that up very easily using a toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol. Just put a little isopropyl alcohol on the toothbrush and start scrubbing where the corrosion is!
CD Rom in this macintosh is good, when you decided to eject the CD using paper clip, it was in the middle of loading and going further, it take 10 restart and 3 on purpose crashes, to start loading.
“We’ll probably be fine” famous last words
I have a near mint example of this computer Non- modified and running original hardware without issue on OS 7.1 for sale if anyone is interested. It has the factory CD rom working with the magazine
Nice lair renovation, Ken! Keep up the good work!
Thank you. The guards moved me to a new one because of air quality issues. The light was going green a lot. Poor ventilation. x_x
@@ComputerClan rip air quality
*edit: are you excited for Half-Life: Alyx???*
he removed the cd when the computer finally starts booting hahahhahahhahahaha
Hey it's called "Pea-RAM"!
The power button turns to it's side to function as a file server (or stay on after the power failure)
I suspect the Iivi was a lower end desktop Quadra with a II branding. Because succeeding Quadras shared the same design as the Iivx.
Capacitors, capacitors, capacitors. These leak and will destroy logic board. Power supply is most likely okay. I also found some CD-ROM drives from that era that have the same problematic capacitors. Replace them, clean the boards in dishwasher and you will have a great happy Mac.
I think we share the curse Krazy Ken, i also have my experiences with it, like with my blue and white PowerMac G3 and the quest for the best hard drive configuration, or the quest of getting an os installed on that thing!
I had a brand new, when it came out, McIntosh llx with an accelerator card. Woo hoo!
I want a Macintosh IIvx now because of this video
Good! >:)
What's with the evil face??
Those hard drives are fixable! Problem is a rubber bumper inside going sticky. I've attempted the repair on 3 old scsi Apple drives and been successful on 2 of them.
I can't wait for part 2 where you actually install it
My first Mac was a llvx and I still have it
cool
I'm using 2008 macbook with 2gb ram with bad ram slot it running 10.6.8
IIRC it’s better to power on external SCSI devices before the computer. I really enjoyed the vid, I had a Power Mac 7100/80 AV which used the same case. It’s not very Mac-like with the metal cover - but I have fond memories of playing my Nintendo 64 through the AV card and playing MOD music and even MP3’s. Playing them used up a fair chunk of the CPU though haha.
How far we’ve come!
I gotta admit. That's dirty! Its lucky its sort of? Still alive
Wowwwww, this needs a LOT of work. I haven't watched the entire video yet, but I think most of, if not all of the issues you're having would be remedied with a good cleaning, re-capping, and repairing the corrosion. There's probably a number of shorts (or low/high resistances that shouldn't be there).
It would be interesting to send this to someone like AkBKukU (a friend of Druaga1's) to do some restoration videos on.
Right! If I do get it fixed, I'd love for it to be a collaborative effort.
I don't understand how Ken stays calm when handling any CRT TVs or monitors. I'm terrified every time I handle one because of the extremely high voltage.
Finally an updated intro!
Macs from that era will not boot up if the internal battery is dead…
i had trouble one old mac i use to have had sad face when i turn it on keep on doing it from hard drive
I am 90% sure that I first used Windows 2000. Or something that had that Classic Windows look.
asap clean and recap!
I've seen and owned so much worse that works. I have a quadra that sat outside/in moisture so long all the unpainted metal surfaces are BROWN with rust. Works fine, even the original hard drive. In my experience for some reason, it's like the worse shape i find them in, the more functional they are
If it takes awhile to regain juice/power to be able to power up later, that could indicate a failing power supply so you might want to get that checked soon.
I'm not doing great today. I just had my ass burned in love again. I'm currently dealing with insomnia and it is 2:08 a.m. where I am
I got a Linode ad on this video.
I Emulated MacOS 7.6 Of A IIfx
And Opened System Profiler. It Gave Me An Error. "Sorry, This Version Of Apple System Profiler Does Not Support This Model Of Computer.", Any suggestions on how to fix?
Incredible that still works in those conditions. I don't understand why you have insisted with all those traces of oxide risking to break it out forever. I hope you wash it and restore the logicboard as you should ....
That thing needs a good clean and a re-cap.