I have a Newton emate 300. It gets to know your handwriting over time and until more recent apps, no other portable device allowed you to draw and type on screen in the same document in that way. It has a great keyboard and portable design by Jony Ive. In the late 1990s, I used it to write and print off several presentations and also my CV/ Resume. That CV landed me the job I was hoping for in medicine. That job was crucial for my career and during it, I saved the lives of many people including children whilst working as a doctor. I hope this may help the family of that engineer to know that it wasn't all in vain. I still love my Newton and it still works.
I was a kid when my dad was an engineering tech at Apple during the development of the Newton. I remember he was constantly fiddling with the Newton when he was home and showing me all the stuff it could do but the thing I remember the most is it never did learn my handwriting.
My grandparents had a chemical company that did contract work for the Californian aerospace industry around JPL and Pasadena and they had several late 80’s and early 90’s model Macs to automate some of their machines. My earliest tech memories were playing on old Mac desktops in the early 90’s. Those were my first experiences with a computer years before any of my friend’s families could afford to own one personally in the home.
It's John Scully's fault. Non tech experienced person should blurted out deadline and promise to customers without consulting with the head developers who lead the team working on the products/projects, no matter what positions they hold. I've been a developer for more than 5 years, this thing in the video happened when non tech experienced was oblivious and set the deadline with 0 or not enough clue how and what the process involved and how long, as well as days allocation for bug fixing and stuffs cos they think they know better.
Even with almost 7 years of experience as a software engineer, estimations are hard to give most of the time and unforeseeable issues occur. Pressure is possibly toughest part of the job. Everything is for yesterday and the toll it takes on the devs is almost always ignore.
Lol I appreciate the recognition. Even after my 5 years of experience the pressure's still feels INSANE - especially at startups. But at the end of the day, it molds you into a resilient person. On top of that, the salary's always great :).
I feel so bad for the developers who poured their life into this project only for their work to be mocked on national TV. I know how crushing it feels to work so hard on something and yet fall completely flat.
The crunch was more induced by the naive CEO who thinks he can just command a new product into existence rather than because of passion for the project.
I was an early adopter if the Newton in the 1990's. I ran my medical office software on Apple products (MediMac), and the Newton could interface with that software for electronic medical records. I would take my notes on the Newton and transfer them to the computer. When I needed to access a patient's records after hours, I could use remote network into the office computer and control the office computer to see the patient notes, and review their lab summaries and prescription records. I don't have any of my Newtons anymore, but still have their PCMCIA storage cards and still have the complete Mac IIsi and Mac LC as well as PowerPC 603e that used to run the office records and billing software (25 years later). I remember going to an Anthony Robins seminar in Florida and using my Newton to handwrite detailed notes for all of the sessions over several days, with almost perfect recognition of my cursive handwriting (not so much with printed writing). I had the penultimate doctor's handwriting until Newton trained me to be legible! My biggest gripe was that the screen could be easily scratched by the Apple stylus if a grain of dust got caught between the stylus tip and the screen.
I had an Apple Newton MessagePad 120 and I can say that it actually worked very well. It was remarkably accurate with recognising my terrible handwriting, both printed and cursive. I think the biggest problem with the Newton, was that Apple marketed it *_way_* too early, doing significant damage for the public's perception of the product.
@@roberte2945nerds. Not hipsters. Nerds. That documentary is full of people who loved the thing because they were nerds and now they rebuild them, make new batteries for them, etc.
A great book on the Newton is, "Defying Gravity" - written by the development team. I was an early developer for the Newton and still have a few functional ones.
@@rlagesse ok no worries. Just fascinated but older tech. A collector I am not but kinda want to start. Thought I’d ask. Thanks for the response tho appreciate it. Take care
so true, and I always save them for my lunch time to give me an inspiration boost while eating at my desk on my startup keeping me realising that there's still a point to all this
I owned an apple newton 2k and loved it. It was far ahead of its time. I believe that it created the market for things like the palm pilot and ipaq . Its main problems were that it was too early. Most people were not connected (pre facebook, pre netflix, etc.) and it was expensive at the time. When everyone thought apple was crazy when they announced the iphone, I reminded them that they had already done it before but it was called the newton...
@@mayaparamita2254 It's an interesting thought, but I think we would still have Android. Apple was surely ahead of the times with the release of the iPhone. Without apple I do think we would probably have 2015 smartphone technology here in 2021. If Apple stayed completely out of the picture there is a good chance that Blackberry would still be a major player. Probably Blackberry vs Android right now.
Love the Aphex Twin background music! Watching the "future" of Apple computers is basically Siri, FaceTime, and some GPS simulation computing. Super cool to see how far we have become technologically
@uNnHkP8mza NewtonScript and Newton Toolkit were really great development tools. The OS itself was incredibly consistent. Easy to write apps, easy to write extensions. Very elegant.
Those poor engineers and designers. Makes you appreciate how awful the stress and pressure must have been when you have bosses that don't necessarily understand the issues a product faces.
Except for all the FACTUAL errors. But then dumbasses who know even less never seem to spot them. Every video in the past year has contained no less than 4 MAJOR ERRORS. So I'm guess you are one of the blind-dumbasses that never pick up on the mistakes - but you kneel at his feet as if he's God. Sorry, he's not. For the number of subscribers, and the sheer number of people who hang on his every word, Dagogo really SHOULD spend more time fact-checking before uploading. But I'm guessing that he just doesn't care any more when you have a captive, fawning, audience.
Love my Newton2000, still remember saving every penny as a kid to be able to afford it, did not have issues with my handwriting recognition. Used to love the NewtonTalk forum and learnt a lot from those earlier contributors. I still think if Steve Jobs continue with the development, the Newton would still be a successful product.
So you want more ppl to be stressed the hell out and possibly more suicide due to Tyrants and bullies like Steve Jobs all do you could enjoy some not ready technology? LOL.
The Newton was a great idea but the tech just wasn't there for it to be made into reality. I would honestly work say a device like what it was supposed to be would not be ready till like 2009 from a spec standpoint
@@stefanc4520 this shows how clueless you are. Your statement is not very smart. This video shows how John Sculley, non IT&non tech person, the project became failure, people got stressed out and mental. And people did not become suicidal and brought on the edge of their sanity under Steve Jobs. I've been a developer for more than 5 years, and my husband has been a developer for a decade at least. I've experienced it myself, under a leadership of person who *consult their tech team who work on the field* this thing in the video didn't happened. My husband experienced that mentioned in the video, his higher up with IT background resigned and a marketing guy with 0 tech experienced replaced that higher up. Suddenly that higher up guy agreeing every project with timeline that doesn't make sense, like 1/3 of the supposed timeline. Plus they didn't have enough people so 1 developer got moved between projects in days. This affected my husband's mental health. Since my husband was still under contract that if he resigned he had to pay fine, he decided not to and hold on. That changed his personality for months even after he finally left the company after the contract finished. You don't know what you're talking about. We're on the field in some cases experienced what's been told in this video.
Absolutely fabulous! I thought I was the only one who knew of that Knowledge Navigator video (there is another awesome business one)! I've looked for it since the 90's, a college roommate had showed it to me around this early 90s period and I've reflect on how much is in the iPad and Siri, etc, but I could never find it. Your thoroughness of research and story telling is superb. Your reinstalled - I also noted the dismay of the Facebook bit posted today, it was not worthy of you and NOWHERE near the level of this Newton piece! Keep up the good work.
The Newton may look like a disaster financially but the few users I know swore by these devices till 2007. I have a coworker who still takes notes on them. I think the newton failed because of the nonexistent design language at apple at the time and the general bad press apple got due to their confusing and sometimes lacking device lineup. Had the Newton come out in shells competitive to the early 2000s HTC handhelds and later Palm developed devices, had Apple actually garnered any friendly press at the time and had they enabled color early, this would’ve been a different story.
I couldn't afford a laptop i college so I bought a messagepad 130 on a tremendous student discount and used it all four years in college. Handwriting recognition was pretty good once trained and for classes where i couldn't keep up with writing notes I used the newton keyboard. Absolutely loved it. When i turn on my newton to this day it still has all the notes from my last college classes. Once out of school and with a real job, i bought a laptop and shelved the newton.
A very good video, thorough and clear. Showing the sad truth that the extraordinary creativity and ingenuity of the Apple engineers was betrayed and put under intolerable pressure by the ignorance and greed of executives that had little or no appreciation for the complexities involved. I'm sure this is a scenario repeated many times since and that continues to this day.
Back in high school, late 90's, we researched the history of computers. I don't recall this device. But you are excellent in delivery of this piece of history. Great job.
Steve Jobs or not, there's not much innovation left in the home computing market - every dimension and type of phone and computer has been tried. They have to either try envisioning completely new product or just keep making the existing ones "better".
@@phony8699 what about the iMac G3, powermacs and shit jobs released after he come back to apple? Woz dont do shit at the time and woz only developed apple ii
I thought the MessagePad 2000/2100 series was fantastic. i particularly like how the OS allowed data to be shared between apps. Haven't seen anything like that since.
I grew up being fascinated by how revolutionary these black-and-green devices were in the day. I actually wish they come back, but with present-day improvements.
I have heard that people gave their entire life for their passion and projects, but never seen this type of video before, which makes heart beating, after looking at this man's story. Coldfusion is Gem for Geeks.... Love from India(especially Mumbai- your childhood memories). :)
@ghost mall yeah, it has this relaxing vibe to it, yet still flowing with the narrative. You should check out some of his music, it's very cool to have playing to focus - it's Burn Water
In my humble POV John Sculley screwed the whole product by announcing the Newton as a consumer ready product and creating such a pressure to the dev team
I remember HP, Compaq, Sony and other companies made quite reliable PDAs. I don't think Apple can be credited with creating the PDA. Or even a PDA that made calls. The original iPhone basically was a PDA with an app ecosystem.
On release the iPhone didn't have apps. the Apps came with the iPhone 3G and iOs 2. They were counting on web apps. The iPhone was introduced by steve jobs as widescreen iPod, an internet communicator, and a Phone. What Apple nailed in the first iPhone was the screen and UI. It also helped that the high-end mobile processor at that time were starting to include a small on board GPU for graphic acceleration. Apple was the first to use GPU to make the UI smooth on a phone. It took until Android 4.0 or Ice cream sandwich until Android UI became fully accelerated (Android had partial UI acceleration before that).
@I OFFER YOU THIS The Palm Tx was released nearly two years prior to the iPhone and had a slightly larger screen (3.9 in vs 3.5) with the same 480x320 resolution. The on-screen keyboard and handwriting recognition was on par as well. When the iPhone was released, it did not have an app ecosystem and could not install apps of any kind. This capability was finally added over a year later with the v2 software update. While Apple got the form factor correct, Palm Treo and numerous other devices were vastly more capable, and continued to be until the release of the iPhone 3g. On a side note, I still recall having to jailbreak the first 3 or 4 generations of iPhones just so I could have custom SMS tones, even though many phones had that capability starting in the early 2000s.
If that's just what you remember, it's very much not an accurate statement. I had all of these Compaq, HP, and I even had the Tree 600 which was a phone, the bring problem was, that the OS was terrible, it was designed for a stylus to scroll up and down and tap on little buttons, handwriting was awful. Those were PDA's, like Palm, but a Personal Digital Assistant was all they were, a digital Filofax (contacts, calendar, notes, Reversi, and clock). Email was hit or miss, and you could load 4 MP3s on them. Seriously, as much as I thought those other PDAs were terrible at the time, they were at least better than nothing, hoping that it was the future, but they were so awful to use in reality. People, like us early day internet entrepreneurs, wanted to think they were amazing, but I didn't know anyone who could those things for more than 10 minutes at a time, and that's only to read your SMS or answer your phone. Apple didn't invent the PDA, you're right, because nobody wants a digital Filofax, they want their life in their pocket. Although, you're right in some ways. It was near on impossible to get apps for Windows Pocket PC, or the Palm one, because you had to hunt around weird wide web at the time (early 2000s, download it, unzip it, and then side-load it onto your phone by plugging it into your PC. So yeah, having an over-the-air verified app store was a first, and was a game changer. But an multi-touch screen device built for your fingers was also a major game changer
@ghost mall maybe things like the Palm Pilot, there were a few others, but the level of science was nowhere near ready to make anything better than a crappy digital Filofax (if you know what a Filofax was). It's take at least another 10 years for science to discover enough to make the first version of something truly useful
I still have the Newton. They were so near to getting it right, and it was too big...and then came Palm Pilot that you could fit in the pocket. The database software by Balcones Software was the best I have ever used.
Their handwriting recognition was really ahead of its time, albeit in a premature state in the Newton. They improved upon it and reintroduced it as the Scribble feature on today's iPads.
he also acted a lot like that guy from ER, Noah Wyle th-cam.com/video/TIClAanU7Os/w-d-xo.html Seriously though, Pirates of Silicon Valley is the best biography movie, for both Jobs and Gates, and was made only up util Jobs came back, and the background music is really quite dark; that Kutcher one borrowed so heavily from that earlier movie, and made a tits up of it, I still can't finish it). The Micheal Fassbender, Danny Boyle one is very good though, a different angle for the storyline
@@neanda - there's a good movie about the British computing scene in the 1980s that kinda reminds me of pirates of silicon valley, "micro men (2008)" it's on youtube if you want it
I bought one of the early ones at the time. From a computer store in Dallas, I detected the staff weren't at all keen to sell it to me. They suggested a smaller mac. I wanted it to write down notes from a paper notebook so I didn't have to re-key after every meeting. The idea was great but it could never keep up, not even close. Even the digital ink idea did not work, so I scrapped it soon afterwards. Even now I don't think handwriting recognition can keep to with a paper pad. It was a great idea but even today I think they would struggle to make something that matched the design goals. It also put me off Apple for years. I dabbled with an iPhone for a while but scrapped that too. I did buy a mac-book pro 2015 and I still use it but that is the end of line, all those dongles :-( Apple should sell what their customers want to buy and not try to compete on technology
Yes, you're very smart, but it's just that most people will relate to A4, folded, rather than have to explain what A5 is. You got to think about the audience and how you make your message clearer, as opposed to being smarter than them
Amazing how the Compaq iPAQ released in 2000 was light years ahead of any Newton device with full color display, speaker, web browser, email client, Word, Excel, calendar, mp3 player, video player, image viewer, voice recorder, expansion slot, all in a sleek brushed aluminum enclosure that could fit in your pocket and USB sync cradle/charger. I organized my entire college life around it, so convenient.
I still have my Newton 2100 and I break it out every once in a while to mess around with it. The hand writing recognition is still better than anything out today pretty much. After about 3 months of using it I was able to write on it with very few mistakes. It was a product that was way before it's time. LOL it was before Wifi so you had to connect using a modem.
I had several, and was a developer for some time. One issue you did not touch on is that it had a steep learning curve for developers compared to things about at the time and so did not attract as many devs - its unique NewtonScript and very odd operating system. Other devices like Psion and then Palm tended to use C++ and straight forward libraries and OS. 2000 still has pride of place in my retro computer display though :)
When I was a little kid my sister and I would play with our dad’s MP2000 and the handwriting to text disconnect would make us SCREAM with laughter for hours so actually I think it was a resounding success on every front
I still have my MessagePad 2100 and I occasionally take it out of storage and astonish people with how advanced it was back then. The filing system used meant that every piece of data could be used by any app on the device. The handwriting recognition was nearly perfect and if Jobs hadn’t killed it, we would have had iPhones 10 years earlier than we did! There isn’t any amount of money I would give up my MessagePad for. It’s priceless technological history that in some ways is still more advanced that what’s available today!
Very insightful and a good topic. My only problem is, I hate it when your videos end, I was feeling so chilled and informed, then I don't know what to watch next. But, I got to say, your videos a such great little blasts of inspiration to keep working in the tech industry, I thank you very much for that. Please keep your videos coming, and your music too, Burn Water is great to listen to when I'm focussing. How about some Spotify playlists? For work, study, comtemplating etc.
Oh man! I’ve been wondering for years about who made the stupid little quasi-laptop things that we were forced to use in middle school around 1997. They were glitchy trash that took up so many class periods trying to diagnose why an assignment was lost, etc that the teachers finally revolted, defying the principle (and I’m guessing the school board and/or a private contractor) and took us back to doing our assignments with pen and paper. I just saw that weird little laptop thing for the first time in 20 years at 13:37. Crazy! Ours were translucent green though, in case someone would like to tell me the name and release date of the thing. I’d love to buy one on e-Bay for nostalgia’s sake. Edit; it was 1997 not 2000 and it was the eMate 300!
great video, thanks for that. My first Newton I bought in 1995, it was the Message Pad 120. It was 10 years ahead, but handwriting recognition was too buggy.
This video is misleading. PDAs were invented in the 1980s. They were called "electronic organisers" and sold by the millions. They were made by calculator companies like Sharp and Radio Shack. Their main function was as a contact and calendar manager. They had a serial cable to connect to a PC. I had a one that lasted ~ 10 years before I replaced it with a Us Robotics PalmPilot.
I used a friend's Newton once back in 1995, it was pretty fun but clunky and you couldn't really do a lot. Palm would end up dominating the market with their killer PDA the Pilot.
"mental health was left in the dust, relationships ruined" Today's bosses: Perfect!! :) Company is like your 2nd family anyway, and we got a snack bar :)
Seems like Apple is always directionless without jobs. Likely why my last apple product was purchased in 2011, and I can't ever see myself giving them another dollar. Gimmicky upgrades and price hikes is all they are now.
@@Yzyenthusiast @Etimfon Bassey Did I allude to that? Why don't you tell me WHY my comment is wrong if it ruffles your feathers? They of course have money, heck, I bet your already on your 6th lightning cable this year ; )
Thanks Dagogo. Great Vid. I was part of Ericsson in the 2000's and legend has it that Steve Jobs inspiration for the iPhone was the Sony Ericsson P900, and perhaps some from the Newton as well.
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I have a Newton emate 300. It gets to know your handwriting over time and until more recent apps, no other portable device allowed you to draw and type on screen in the same document in that way. It has a great keyboard and portable design by Jony Ive. In the late 1990s, I used it to write and print off several presentations and also my CV/ Resume. That CV landed me the job I was hoping for in medicine. That job was crucial for my career and during it, I saved the lives of many people including children whilst working as a doctor. I hope this may help the family of that engineer to know that it wasn't all in vain. I still love my Newton and it still works.
well aren't you special
@@Erox006 Yes I am and so are you.
@@Erox006 Anybody who save lives is special. So, how do you contribute to society? 🤔
That was so sweet, touching & considerate.
@@Erox006 how can you be so bitter
I was a kid when my dad was an engineering tech at Apple during the development of the Newton. I remember he was constantly fiddling with the Newton when he was home and showing me all the stuff it could do but the thing I remember the most is it never did learn my handwriting.
My grandparents had a chemical company that did contract work for the Californian aerospace industry around JPL and Pasadena and they had several late 80’s and early 90’s model Macs to automate some of their machines. My earliest tech memories were playing on old Mac desktops in the early 90’s. Those were my first experiences with a computer years before any of my friend’s families could afford to own one personally in the home.
@@clintgolub1751 boomer
@@Fjdjfjsz92938 Just because someone is older than you doesn’t mean you have to disrespect them
@@Fjdjfjsz92938 seen you on other comments. I hope you grow up someday
@@whimbox9648 boomer
The apocryphal story of Newton and the falling apple led to the very real story of Apple and the failing Newton.
Haha great comment!
Noice!
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cringe
now all we need is the actual fall of the apple. because one cannot live long enough without becoming the villain.
Gosh, i respect every engineer in a tech company alot now. So much pressure to deliver.
It's John Scully's fault. Non tech experienced person should blurted out deadline and promise to customers without consulting with the head developers who lead the team working on the products/projects, no matter what positions they hold. I've been a developer for more than 5 years, this thing in the video happened when non tech experienced was oblivious and set the deadline with 0 or not enough clue how and what the process involved and how long, as well as days allocation for bug fixing and stuffs cos they think they know better.
Rumour has it Lizardburg is eating all his employee’s because Facebook, IG and WhatsApp are down,
Even with almost 7 years of experience as a software engineer, estimations are hard to give most of the time and unforeseeable issues occur. Pressure is possibly toughest part of the job. Everything is for yesterday and the toll it takes on the devs is almost always ignore.
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Lol I appreciate the recognition. Even after my 5 years of experience the pressure's still feels INSANE - especially at startups. But at the end of the day, it molds you into a resilient person. On top of that, the salary's always great :).
"print this article"
"now printing"
this is the most unrealistic thing I have ever seen
And that was 30yrs ago!
I can do that now.. but I wrote the program. I say print, and whatever is on my screen saves, and prints!
Every cold fusion video is a masterpiece better than the last one.
Aye. Masterpiece would be the most fitting word.
Whatever, Bernie.
And one last thing...
Agreed!
You mean its better not to watch in opposite order?
Man gave his life for the project but it ended up dying out as well. oof
We shall bring back the lost
@MLWATKK I concur with you good sir
Looks like he was only a pawn in a chessboard played by two people at the top.
@@amanda.collaud based
@@amanda.collaud We got an armchair psychologist with tons of experience and calling out people who killed themselves assholes. Wow so brave.
I feel so bad for the developers who poured their life into this project only for their work to be mocked on national TV. I know how crushing it feels to work so hard on something and yet fall completely flat.
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@@ADMIN-hh7gs Shameful.
Fuck The Simpsons.
The crunch was more induced by the naive CEO who thinks he can just command a new product into existence rather than because of passion for the project.
I was an early adopter if the Newton in the 1990's. I ran my medical office software on Apple products (MediMac), and the Newton could interface with that software for electronic medical records. I would take my notes on the Newton and transfer them to the computer. When I needed to access a patient's records after hours, I could use remote network into the office computer and control the office computer to see the patient notes, and review their lab summaries and prescription records. I don't have any of my Newtons anymore, but still have their PCMCIA storage cards and still have the complete Mac IIsi and Mac LC as well as PowerPC 603e that used to run the office records and billing software (25 years later). I remember going to an Anthony Robins seminar in Florida and using my Newton to handwrite detailed notes for all of the sessions over several days, with almost perfect recognition of my cursive handwriting (not so much with printed writing). I had the penultimate doctor's handwriting until Newton trained me to be legible! My biggest gripe was that the screen could be easily scratched by the Apple stylus if a grain of dust got caught between the stylus tip and the screen.
Same, my MessagePad 120 worked very well, even for my cursive.
I had an Apple Newton MessagePad 120 and I can say that it actually worked very well. It was remarkably accurate with recognising my terrible handwriting, both printed and cursive. I think the biggest problem with the Newton, was that Apple marketed it *_way_* too early, doing significant damage for the public's perception of the product.
Love Notes To Newton is a great doc about Newton's history and enthusiasts who've been using it to this day.
What kind of hipster still uses a Newton today?
Still, ironically or unironically?
Can I still buy it? I feel like ReMarkable is the intellectual successor of the Newton. Tablets have too many distractions.
@@roberte2945nerds. Not hipsters. Nerds. That documentary is full of people who loved the thing because they were nerds and now they rebuild them, make new batteries for them, etc.
What an incredible history. I had no idea. Thank you for sharing this amazing tech history! And rest in peace, Mr. Isono.
A great book on the Newton is, "Defying Gravity" - written by the development team. I was an early developer for the Newton and still have a few functional ones.
Any chance you’d sell one mate?
@@mitchkeller5055 Sorry, no. I see them on eBay pretty often.
@@rlagesse ok no worries. Just fascinated but older tech. A collector I am not but kinda want to start. Thought I’d ask. Thanks for the response tho appreciate it. Take care
I had a very good friend who worked on the Newton project... Steve Nickila
Always so happy to see a cold fusion thumbnail
so true, and I always save them for my lunch time to give me an inspiration boost while eating at my desk on my startup keeping me realising that there's still a point to all this
I owned an apple newton 2k and loved it. It was far ahead of its time. I believe that it created the market for things like the palm pilot and ipaq . Its main problems were that it was too early. Most people were not connected (pre facebook, pre netflix, etc.) and it was expensive at the time. When everyone thought apple was crazy when they announced the iphone, I reminded them that they had already done it before but it was called the newton...
I had one and loved it more for its visionary ambitions than the usability.
Same here. I wanted it to be the perfect device. It just wasn't ... yet.
Feels like a touch destiny. Like there had to br the Newton before the smartphone
Honestly, I'm an Android fan, but I find Apple's story to be such an inspiring story
Yea 🙂 I'm android person too. But without apple there would be no android/android that looks like now 🙂
Maybe bc you're comparing a OS with a company 🤔
@@mayaparamita2254 It's an interesting thought, but I think we would still have Android. Apple was surely ahead of the times with the release of the iPhone. Without apple I do think we would probably have 2015 smartphone technology here in 2021. If Apple stayed completely out of the picture there is a good chance that Blackberry would still be a major player. Probably Blackberry vs Android right now.
Absolutely love tech history videos like this. Awesome work, keep em coming.
Love the Aphex Twin background music! Watching the "future" of Apple computers is basically Siri, FaceTime, and some GPS simulation computing. Super cool to see how far we have become technologically
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That Apple’s Vision of the Future video was surprisingly not far off from what we have now
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"the size of a folded A4 sheet of paper"
that's literally A5
Also "Two A6 sheets of paper side by side" 😀
You know Americans struggle with any non-Imperial units...
Working for a big tech company and knowing tech. i keep being amazed by how much i learn from your videos. Thank you!
My first job as a developer was to write software for the Newton. It was amazing to develop for. Loved that system.
That's cool
@uNnHkP8mza NewtonScript and Newton Toolkit were really great development tools. The OS itself was incredibly consistent. Easy to write apps, easy to write extensions. Very elegant.
Those poor engineers and designers. Makes you appreciate how awful the stress and pressure must have been when you have bosses that don't necessarily understand the issues a product faces.
I owned one in 1996. I loved it. It was a great conversation piece everywhere I went. I do wish I still had it.
Cheers to you Diaggo & Cold Fusion team. You are getting better every day!
Except for all the FACTUAL errors.
But then dumbasses who know even less never seem to spot them.
Every video in the past year has contained no less than 4 MAJOR ERRORS.
So I'm guess you are one of the blind-dumbasses that never pick up on the mistakes - but you kneel at his feet as if he's God.
Sorry, he's not.
For the number of subscribers, and the sheer number of people who hang on his every word, Dagogo really SHOULD spend more time fact-checking before uploading. But I'm guessing that he just doesn't care any more when you have a captive, fawning, audience.
Love my Newton2000, still remember saving every penny as a kid to be able to afford it, did not have issues with my handwriting recognition. Used to love the NewtonTalk forum and learnt a lot from those earlier contributors. I still think if Steve Jobs continue with the development, the Newton would still be a successful product.
So you want more ppl to be stressed the hell out and possibly more suicide due to Tyrants and bullies like Steve Jobs all do you could enjoy some not ready technology?
LOL.
The Newton was a great idea but the tech just wasn't there for it to be made into reality. I would honestly work say a device like what it was supposed to be would not be ready till like 2009 from a spec standpoint
@@stefanc4520 what in the name of sweet fucking mary jesus you are talking about??
@@stefanc4520 this shows how clueless you are. Your statement is not very smart.
This video shows how John Sculley, non IT&non tech person, the project became failure, people got stressed out and mental.
And people did not become suicidal and brought on the edge of their sanity under Steve Jobs.
I've been a developer for more than 5 years, and my husband has been a developer for a decade at least.
I've experienced it myself, under a leadership of person who *consult their tech team who work on the field* this thing in the video didn't happened. My husband experienced that mentioned in the video, his higher up with IT background resigned and a marketing guy with 0 tech experienced replaced that higher up. Suddenly that higher up guy agreeing every project with timeline that doesn't make sense, like 1/3 of the supposed timeline. Plus they didn't have enough people so 1 developer got moved between projects in days. This affected my husband's mental health. Since my husband was still under contract that if he resigned he had to pay fine, he decided not to and hold on. That changed his personality for months even after he finally left the company after the contract finished.
You don't know what you're talking about. We're on the field in some cases experienced what's been told in this video.
@@stadoblech so no actual point but some gibberish response? Fitting for the ignorant masses 👌🤣
Absolutely fabulous! I thought I was the only one who knew of that Knowledge Navigator video (there is another awesome business one)! I've looked for it since the 90's, a college roommate had showed it to me around this early 90s period and I've reflect on how much is in the iPad and Siri, etc, but I could never find it. Your thoroughness of research and story telling is superb. Your reinstalled - I also noted the dismay of the Facebook bit posted today, it was not worthy of you and NOWHERE near the level of this Newton piece! Keep up the good work.
A video about general magic would be amazing!
Came just to comment this.
Slidebean has an interesting video about this topic.
What does that mean?
LGR has a Tech Tales episode about General Magic: th-cam.com/video/Opcuy-8VO64/w-d-xo.html
But yah, would be cool to see ColdFusion's take on it too 😎
Your tech history videos like this are my favourite ,but I love all your videos ❤️
Amazing how much of the newton found it’s way into the iPad. No wonder scribble is the best in class. They’ve been working on it for 30 years.
12:06: Ouch. To have a product lampooned by the Simpsons has to be a gut punch.
The Newton may look like a disaster financially but the few users I know swore by these devices till 2007. I have a coworker who still takes notes on them. I think the newton failed because of the nonexistent design language at apple at the time and the general bad press apple got due to their confusing and sometimes lacking device lineup. Had the Newton come out in shells competitive to the early 2000s HTC handhelds and later Palm developed devices, had Apple actually garnered any friendly press at the time and had they enabled color early, this would’ve been a different story.
I couldn't afford a laptop i college so I bought a messagepad 130 on a tremendous student discount and used it all four years in college. Handwriting recognition was pretty good once trained and for classes where i couldn't keep up with writing notes I used the newton keyboard. Absolutely loved it. When i turn on my newton to this day it still has all the notes from my last college classes. Once out of school and with a real job, i bought a laptop and shelved the newton.
make sure to turn it on from time to time. Those boards don't like being bored for too long.
In 1986 siri was more advanced than today 😭😭😭😭😅😅😅😅 @3:55
The music from Dagogo are just amazing..
A very good video, thorough and clear. Showing the sad truth that the extraordinary creativity and ingenuity of the Apple engineers was betrayed and put under intolerable pressure by the ignorance and greed of executives that had little or no appreciation for the complexities involved. I'm sure this is a scenario repeated many times since and that continues to this day.
Back in high school, late 90's, we researched the history of computers. I don't recall this device. But you are excellent in delivery of this piece of history. Great job.
I guess we can say that Apple really has learned from their mistakes.
not right now. the company really is nothing without Jobs anymore.
Have they? Once Jobs died they just kept rehashing products while removing features.
Steve Jobs or not, there's not much innovation left in the home computing market - every dimension and type of phone and computer has been tried. They have to either try envisioning completely new product or just keep making the existing ones "better".
@@theniteowl7007 jobs didn't do shit anyways, Wozniak is the reason why apple is even known for it's innovation.
@@phony8699 what about the iMac G3, powermacs and shit jobs released after he come back to apple? Woz dont do shit at the time and woz only developed apple ii
Superb soundtrack and awesome content quality, as always. Thanks!
These videos are both relaxing and educational
So much knowledge of history..I'm in love with this channel I'm literally binge watching right now ❤️💕
I'm figuratively binge watching right now because he's got quite a few facts wrong.
I thought the MessagePad 2000/2100 series was fantastic. i particularly like how the OS allowed data to be shared between apps. Haven't seen anything like that since.
This Story reminds me of the Commodore CD32, which was far to early for the masses.
Maybe you could make an episode about it some day? 😍
Do some video on the 2008 financial crisis... please
And the great depression of the 1900s
I grew up being fascinated by how revolutionary these black-and-green devices were in the day. I actually wish they come back, but with present-day improvements.
That Knowledge Navigator video was calming and stress-free in a way that doesn’t feel achievable these days.
There's a lesson to be learned here about failing upwards.
Something like "He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing"
Kiitos!
I have heard that people gave their entire life for their passion and projects, but never seen this type of video before, which makes heart beating, after looking at this man's story.
Coldfusion is Gem for Geeks....
Love from India(especially Mumbai- your childhood memories). :)
You have phenomenal taste in music. I'd recognize "Xtal" anywhere.
@ghost mall yeah, it has this relaxing vibe to it, yet still flowing with the narrative. You should check out some of his music, it's very cool to have playing to focus - it's Burn Water
In my humble POV John Sculley screwed the whole product by announcing the Newton as a consumer ready product and creating such a pressure to the dev team
I remember HP, Compaq, Sony and other companies made quite reliable PDAs. I don't think Apple can be credited with creating the PDA. Or even a PDA that made calls. The original iPhone basically was a PDA with an app ecosystem.
The other part of the story seemed to be missing as well: Knight-Ridder Information Design Lab
On release the iPhone didn't have apps. the Apps came with the iPhone 3G and iOs 2. They were counting on web apps. The iPhone was introduced by steve jobs as widescreen iPod, an internet communicator, and a Phone. What Apple nailed in the first iPhone was the screen and UI. It also helped that the high-end mobile processor at that time were starting to include a small on board GPU for graphic acceleration. Apple was the first to use GPU to make the UI smooth on a phone. It took until Android 4.0 or Ice cream sandwich until Android UI became fully accelerated (Android had partial UI acceleration before that).
@I OFFER YOU THIS
The Palm Tx was released nearly two years prior to the iPhone and had a slightly larger screen (3.9 in vs 3.5) with the same 480x320 resolution. The on-screen keyboard and handwriting recognition was on par as well.
When the iPhone was released, it did not have an app ecosystem and could not install apps of any kind. This capability was finally added over a year later with the v2 software update.
While Apple got the form factor correct, Palm Treo and numerous other devices were vastly more capable, and continued to be until the release of the iPhone 3g.
On a side note, I still recall having to jailbreak the first 3 or 4 generations of iPhones just so I could have custom SMS tones, even though many phones had that capability starting in the early 2000s.
If that's just what you remember, it's very much not an accurate statement. I had all of these Compaq, HP, and I even had the Tree 600 which was a phone, the bring problem was, that the OS was terrible, it was designed for a stylus to scroll up and down and tap on little buttons, handwriting was awful. Those were PDA's, like Palm, but a Personal Digital Assistant was all they were, a digital Filofax (contacts, calendar, notes, Reversi, and clock). Email was hit or miss, and you could load 4 MP3s on them.
Seriously, as much as I thought those other PDAs were terrible at the time, they were at least better than nothing, hoping that it was the future, but they were so awful to use in reality. People, like us early day internet entrepreneurs, wanted to think they were amazing, but I didn't know anyone who could those things for more than 10 minutes at a time, and that's only to read your SMS or answer your phone. Apple didn't invent the PDA, you're right, because nobody wants a digital Filofax, they want their life in their pocket.
Although, you're right in some ways. It was near on impossible to get apps for Windows Pocket PC, or the Palm one, because you had to hunt around weird wide web at the time (early 2000s, download it, unzip it, and then side-load it onto your phone by plugging it into your PC. So yeah, having an over-the-air verified app store was a first, and was a game changer. But an multi-touch screen device built for your fingers was also a major game changer
@ghost mall maybe things like the Palm Pilot, there were a few others, but the level of science was nowhere near ready to make anything better than a crappy digital Filofax (if you know what a Filofax was). It's take at least another 10 years for science to discover enough to make the first version of something truly useful
I still have the Newton. They were so near to getting it right, and it was too big...and then came Palm Pilot that you could fit in the pocket.
The database software by Balcones Software was the best I have ever used.
Professor: ENVIRONMENTALISM!!!
Also Professor: Please print this...
He said “very nice” seeing Sahara doubling is size. They were probably killed by Captain Planet before they have put that plan into action.
Their handwriting recognition was really ahead of its time, albeit in a premature state in the Newton. They improved upon it and reintroduced it as the Scribble feature on today's iPads.
Never realized how much Steve Jobs did look like Ashton kusher
he also acted a lot like that guy from ER, Noah Wyle th-cam.com/video/TIClAanU7Os/w-d-xo.html
Seriously though, Pirates of Silicon Valley is the best biography movie, for both Jobs and Gates, and was made only up util Jobs came back, and the background music is really quite dark; that Kutcher one borrowed so heavily from that earlier movie, and made a tits up of it, I still can't finish it). The Micheal Fassbender, Danny Boyle one is very good though, a different angle for the storyline
@@neanda - there's a good movie about the British computing scene in the 1980s that kinda reminds me of pirates of silicon valley, "micro men (2008)" it's on youtube if you want it
I bought one of the early ones at the time. From a computer store in Dallas, I detected the staff weren't at all keen to sell it to me. They suggested a smaller mac. I wanted it to write down notes from a paper notebook so I didn't have to re-key after every meeting. The idea was great but it could never keep up, not even close. Even the digital ink idea did not work, so I scrapped it soon afterwards. Even now I don't think handwriting recognition can keep to with a paper pad.
It was a great idea but even today I think they would struggle to make something that matched the design goals. It also put me off Apple for years. I dabbled with an iPhone for a while but scrapped that too.
I did buy a mac-book pro 2015 and I still use it but that is the end of line, all those dongles :-(
Apple should sell what their customers want to buy and not try to compete on technology
3:16 FYI: folded A4 sheet of paper is A5
Yes, you're very smart, but it's just that most people will relate to A4, folded, rather than have to explain what A5 is. You got to think about the audience and how you make your message clearer, as opposed to being smarter than them
Amazing how the Compaq iPAQ released in 2000 was light years ahead of any Newton device with full color display, speaker, web browser, email client, Word, Excel, calendar, mp3 player, video player, image viewer, voice recorder, expansion slot, all in a sleek brushed aluminum enclosure that could fit in your pocket and USB sync cradle/charger. I organized my entire college life around it, so convenient.
Cold fusion my friend you need to work on a documentary and sell it to Netflix. You are so good an inspiration for me.
Patience , patience, his turn will come. 👍🏾👍🏾
@@cliftonparchment4498 as a creator my self I learn so much from him.
5:15 and after he buys dinner, he's gonna hit that
I still have my Newton 2100 and I break it out every once in a while to mess around with it. The hand writing recognition is still better than anything out today pretty much. After about 3 months of using it I was able to write on it with very few mistakes. It was a product that was way before it's time. LOL it was before Wifi so you had to connect using a modem.
Thanks~~~~~
I did'nt know Tommy Wiseau was doing scripts for commercials before diving into The Room
Kind of wanted to get one to play around with, but it seems way to limited to even play around with
I had several, and was a developer for some time. One issue you did not touch on is that it had a steep learning curve for developers compared to things about at the time and so did not attract as many devs - its unique NewtonScript and very odd operating system. Other devices like Psion and then Palm tended to use C++ and straight forward libraries and OS. 2000 still has pride of place in my retro computer display though :)
PUH-SY-ON 🤣The P in Psion is silent.
2:28 Lazer Hawk - So Far Away! One of my favorite tunes of all times!
When I was a little kid my sister and I would play with our dad’s MP2000 and the handwriting to text disconnect would make us SCREAM with laughter for hours so actually I think it was a resounding success on every front
Probably inspiration for the Simpsons joke. 😆
3:18 , so like an A5 or A6? Folded A4 sheet of paper is about that size, as the A size sheets follow the golden ratio.
Lasst time I was this quick my gf … ah whatever, I don't have a gf
😂😂😂
When you get a gf finally then maybe u will slow down or still be quick 😂
It’s difficult to edge irl
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I still have my MessagePad 2100 and I occasionally take it out of storage and astonish people with how advanced it was back then. The filing system used meant that every piece of data could be used by any app on the device. The handwriting recognition was nearly perfect and if Jobs hadn’t killed it, we would have had iPhones 10 years earlier than we did! There isn’t any amount of money I would give up my MessagePad for. It’s priceless technological history that in some ways is still more advanced that what’s available today!
Next Pandora Papers
Anyone else notice that they predicted half of Africa to be a desert 11 years ago?
"science"
Crisis click bait. Bad news sells :-(
I like how the guy just goes "nice"
Who's "they"?
@@hailexiao2770 The demo of the professor and his colleague mapping out climate crisis.
Thanks
$8000 for a device as at that time? whew! 😅
Too far ahead of itself
Very insightful and a good topic. My only problem is, I hate it when your videos end, I was feeling so chilled and informed, then I don't know what to watch next. But, I got to say, your videos a such great little blasts of inspiration to keep working in the tech industry, I thank you very much for that. Please keep your videos coming, and your music too, Burn Water is great to listen to when I'm focussing. How about some Spotify playlists? For work, study, comtemplating etc.
3:17 "The size of a folded A4 sheet of paper." So... you mean an A5 sheet of paper?
‘We need a new CEO for our computing tech company.’
*Fizzy sugar drink salesman has entered the chat*
"If at first you dont succeed, bring back the CEO you forced out of its own company to make it work." - Apple
Thank you Togogo. I will sit back and get comfy.... Boss.
*Dagogo
Cold Fusion leaving Master pieces for the future generations. 👍
well said
I loved using the Newton. It was just an idea slightly ahead of it’s time.
This is gonna be a great one! I always wanted to know why Steve jobs hate the Newton so much
yeah I wonder as well !
He didn't like styluses, I'm assuming
Because it wasn't his baby.
It’s crazy how this product failed but apparently everyone in the comment section owns one
Oh man! I’ve been wondering for years about who made the stupid little quasi-laptop things that we were forced to use in middle school around 1997. They were glitchy trash that took up so many class periods trying to diagnose why an assignment was lost, etc that the teachers finally revolted, defying the principle (and I’m guessing the school board and/or a private contractor) and took us back to doing our assignments with pen and paper. I just saw that weird little laptop thing for the first time in 20 years at 13:37. Crazy!
Ours were translucent green though, in case someone would like to tell me the name and release date of the thing. I’d love to buy one on e-Bay for nostalgia’s sake.
Edit; it was 1997 not 2000 and it was the eMate 300!
great video, thanks for that. My first Newton I bought in 1995, it was the Message Pad 120. It was 10 years ahead, but handwriting recognition was too buggy.
This video is misleading. PDAs were invented in the 1980s. They were called "electronic organisers" and sold by the millions. They were made by calculator companies like Sharp and Radio Shack. Their main function was as a contact and calendar manager. They had a serial cable to connect to a PC. I had a one that lasted ~ 10 years before I replaced it with a Us Robotics PalmPilot.
So did I indeed 👍
This was a stunning product way ahead of its time.
Keep up the great work!
Their work wasn't a failure. As always, innovations of the past were the building blocks of what we have now. We'd be nowhere without this device.
I used a friend's Newton once back in 1995, it was pretty fun but clunky and you couldn't really do a lot. Palm would end up dominating the market with their killer PDA the Pilot.
The stonks man in the thumbnail is soo relatable
"mental health was left in the dust, relationships ruined"
Today's bosses: Perfect!! :) Company is like your 2nd family anyway, and we got a snack bar :)
i absolutely love your content! The videos you make are such high quality and your voice makes a pleasure to listen and learn. Thank you!
Seems like Apple is always directionless without jobs. Likely why my last apple product was purchased in 2011, and I can't ever see myself giving them another dollar. Gimmicky upgrades and price hikes is all they are now.
I’m sure they’re quaking and crying over your money
@@Yzyenthusiast @Etimfon Bassey Did I allude to that? Why don't you tell me WHY my comment is wrong if it ruffles your feathers? They of course have money, heck, I bet your already on your 6th lightning cable this year ; )
@@christophermccoy4605 I’ll buy another lightning cable right now in your stead infact
Great content as usual Dagogo. Please keep it up...
Psion is pronounced SCION not Piss ion 😂
Thanks Dagogo. Great Vid. I was part of Ericsson in the 2000's and legend has it that Steve Jobs inspiration for the iPhone was the Sony Ericsson P900, and perhaps some from the Newton as well.
The rich sees an economic crisis as a garage sale also the rich stays rich by investing and diversifying their portfolio with stocks, Crypto currency and Forex trading which is the wisest thing every individual needs to do and it's real profiting..
I have secured financial freedom by investing in bonds , equities , EFT's and some digital currencies .
Absolutely right, I got 70% of my total portfolio in crypto and I have been making good profits.
I wanted to invest more in crypto, but the fluctuations in crypto value discouraged me into dumping.
@@peteranderson1466 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like mr Nelson Parker..
Wow 😮I’m just shocked you mentioned and recommended Mr. Nelson Parker I thought people don’t know him, he is really awesome.