That is what I was thinking about doing as well. I know everything is relative to temperature, but roughly how much of the battery do you use overnight using your strategy?
After watching this video, there are a few points about Wave2 that caught my attention: The accompanying battery cannot be charged separately; it must be connected to the air conditioner to charge. This is particularly troublesome and unreasonable. When I deplete the battery of the air conditioner outdoors and want to charge it, I have to carry the entire air conditioning unit with me. Keep in mind that this adds up to a weight of 50 pounds. Wow, 50 pounds! What does that have to do with portability? For me, portability is a crucial factor to consider, and I might choose Zero Breeze instead. Their product weighs less than 30 pounds, which is half the weight of Wave2, and can be easily lifted with one hand.
Oh, thank you! I was initially considering EcoFlow, but now I'm leaning towards Zero Breeze. Although EcoFlow has a higher BTU, Zero Breeze should be sufficient for my tent.
Insulation and shade are key to proper cooling. When I ripped the roof liner out of my van it became a hit box in the sun. Inside temperature easily came to 30°F over ambient. So putting new insulation in is my top priority before summer
That thought crossed my mind. Then I started to think about the material of the AC. So, I would be skeptical, even if the test came back good. The material could eventually leach something.
As for condensation that you noticed when in heat mode, think of it this way: it’s a dehumidifier on whatever the cooling side is, so in heat mode it is actually dehumidifying the outside air (perhaps the reason why drainage is required in heat mode). While it doesn’t actually remove water from the inside air in heat mode, it does raise the temperature which will lower the relative humidity, making the heated air feel dryer.
Great review! Installed in a vehicle like this there's definitely room for further improvement in efficiency... A shroud for the condenser (cooling mode) inlet with another duct leading to the drivers side window would help. As it's connected now the unit is pushing hot air out the exhaust duct, but that means it's pulling in unconditioned air through leaks or vents in the cabin, reducing efficiency. A separate fresh air inlet for the condenser would provide this, and keep unconditioned (warm) air from being drawn in. Another possible direction would be to mount the unit outside the van. Build a shelf that would hang on the top of one of mostly open the windows, external to the van, maybe with an extendible painters pole attached to support the weight. The unit would sit, with just the front section inside the van. Use foam poster board cut to block airflow around the opening - between the unit and the door frame. And maybe another foam board arched over the top of the unit to reduce its exposure to the elements. Besides being more efficient, this option would likely make it quieter inside the van.
Yep:) he is basically creating a negative pressure environment in the van and with the exhaust hose just going out the window with all air gaps mostly pulling hot air directly back in the car creating a hot zone up front making the AC even less efficient. I would not follow what this guy did at all:)
@@matthewwiemken7293 I don't think his setup is too terrible... At least the air he's exhausting is probably quite a bit warmer than the ambient / outside air that's getting drawn in through leaks. But there's definitely room for improvement.
@@AdventureGearTV insulation would certainly help, especially if it's in the sun. But the biggest efficiency gain will still be had by sealing up the air leaks. Keep the conditioned air inside and the unconditioned air on the outside. Then insulation. Then covering the windows. Cover on the outside in the summer - to keep the IR outside the glass. On the inside in the winter. Actually, if the van has factory interior - headliner and upholstery, both of which function as insulation, I'd tackle the window covers first.
Great video! I have been thinking about incorporating a Heat Pump into my build out. Being able to both heat and cool from one device is the way to go. Dehumidifying the air really does a lot to increase the comfort level. Your stand alone fan is also a great addition to boost the comfort level. Great informative video! Thank you.... it really helps me with my build out. Question: What size solar panel are you using on your roof?
Hi, I think this would work in your tent if it’s sealed up and the rain fly can act as insulation from the sun. It’s plenty cool just sitting nearby, but might not work as good on a windy day.
If the wave2 with battery was inside the tent. You run the two hoses to the outside, which keep you cooling or heating. Or you keep the wave2 outside the tent, just have the air output blowing into the tent. Just the unit would not know what temperature was inside the tent. As the wave2 with external battery is required for cooling or hearting off grid or with use from the xt60 dc Jack say for other batteries, direct solar panels or like vehicle dc. If your camp site had ac 120v standard plug you just use the ac adaptor to wave2. You wouldn’t need the external battery. Seems the external battery has the dc regulator built into it so it’s required for solar or other dc sources for use cooling or heating.
Have the ecoflow wave. Great AC but too heavy to be portable. Use it for offgrid lifestyle. Don't waste $$ on the add on battery. Recharging is ridiculous complicated & restrictive options. Use direct with solar panels or with our solar power station.
Part of the reason there's water left over in the drain is because of the intentional design to help the water splash the coil to keep it cool never dump the water out unless you're done using it for an extended period of time
Great Review! - Now Manufactures or after market designers need to take into account the Van designs, The base of the passengers or Divers seat should be either a power bank/ or a 12V Power station!! - or as a first step design power banks to simply slide under the seats All of this to Maximize Room in vans! - The NEXT step would be to design Front seats to be Modular A/C-Heaters all incorporated, again to maximize Van space!! - this step would incorporate drainage and an outside air port exchange built in to the vans!! - so to summarize an easy to disconnect Modular Seat system(for ease of repair or transferability) that is a Power bank and AC/Fan/dehumidifier Built in SEAT UNIT would be ideal for Mobile situations! - who wouldn’t want to jump in their van and just tap a few buttons an be ready to go vs having to setup these Hog size type of units constantly?
@AdventureGearTV hey so how's it been?? Both AC and heat? I found it for $1k with battery and was thinking of buying it. It had terrible reviews on Amazon but 🤷♂️. I'm needing heat and air for camping in my gmc Sierra with camper top on bed. I've already built a bed with sliding drawer out of extruded aluminum and put wood flooring with insulation down. Really hoping to find one unit for heat and air! Please let us know if you still recommend after one year! Thx for vid!
@@OTRFlyer don't waist your money the heat that comes off of the exhaust hose stops the cooling of the room you need to buy an insulated cover for the hose. And the add on batter will only keep the air con running on cool for about 2hrs on max and if it's over 30 outside in Australia that just won't work to keep you cool all night. you need to buy the bigger power sauce. As it doesn't keep our 7mt motorhome cool on eco mode or low fan mode. And in heat mode it will only run for up to 2.5hrs with the add on battery. It cost me a lot of money. I had to buy insulation cover for exhaust vent hose a car charger to charge battery while driving. And a 160w solar panel won't charge it fully on a full day of sun either. And the first one I brought only lasted a week and I only used it a few times had to wait and get another one under warranty :( and now the fan is making a noise at times and an error came up and it's an issue with them as well. And we've only had it 5 months and only use it when we go camping. Have to express to you a lot of heat comes off of the exhaust tube. And the add on battery will only run it for approx 2.5 hrs.
It’s a tough question to answer. It seems to work fine, and it’s not extremely big compared to what it does. Also, how often would a regular person actually use it? Three times in a year. I plan to use it much more.
So I managed to order a Wave2 early this morning for $999 from a non-Ecoflow site. The Ecoflow coupons and codes and discounts were so convoluted. I so appreciate this video! Great reminder about the app; i should probably check for updates to my Delta Max. Loved the demo of the hose in the window -- it looks better than my version 😄 Is that pool noodle oversized by chance? Placing the drain hose in a bottle is ingenious 😁 Have you tried charging any of the devices with the cigarette lighter while you're driving? (Assuming you're not parked for several days). So many possibilities 😀 Thank you so much!
Hi, it is the oversized noodle. You can charge with the car outlet. IT’s limited to 8amps max. So, it’ll be around 100w for a 12v system and 200w for a 24v system. I’m not a fan of their coupon system. Thanks for stopping in, and WELCOME!
Dont waste $$ for the add on battery. I did and regret it. Point of use was off grid lifestyle. Says recharge plugged into the AC unit & unit plugged into dedicated house outlet on the grid. Didnt recharge. User manual claims can charge thru our delta pro solar power station which meant I spent another $200 for the necessary power cord & plug adapter. Didnt work. Says it can charge via USB. Didnt work either
Sounds like you have a broken battery. With the battery connected it should pull 800w, either all 800 to chargethe battery, or 400 for the battery and 400 for the unit if it's on. I was happy to find if you're plugged into the wall it doesn't run power "through" the battery, just charges it then leaves it as a backup. Of course, the battery being LiFePO4, and seperately chargable, would have been much better. Though it would also be much bigger and heavier!
Does the connection on the Wave 2 where the battery plugs in to, does it just have 2 pins or does it also have some data pins? Trying to determine if I can jerry rig my own alternate DC power source using that connection as their price per wH for their battery is very poor and I have existing DC power source options at my disposal.
Correct. I only vented the exhaust hose. Although it wouldn’t be too difficult to vent the intake as well. However, bugs can be an issue when pulling air directly from outside. Either way, the system gets the air that it needs to work.
@@mexifinn7830 great tip. I have a mess screen that I tried on another AC unit, and I use those screens frequently without AC. But, they get clogged with small bugs at night.
No you want the cooler air from the area you're conditioning hot air will make it less effective and decrease the cooling. He really shouldn't be trying to isolate the area from the return..
@@cwindsor8585 evaporator is the hot side of the ac. Condenser is the cool side. You WANT to use outside air to blow the heat away from the evaporator. Otherwise you are taking already cooled air to expel the heat. The negative pressure will then promote the suction of hot humor air to come back in. That’s why those free standing acs are less efficient than window units.
It accepts up to 400w from XT60 input. But, it’s limited to 200w from a car input. Also, 8 amps. So, 200w from a 24v system and 100w from a 12v system.
The Bluetti DC Charging Enhancer upvolts whatever comes into to around 50 volts, I wonder if an adapter could be rigged up to adapt the output from that into an XT60, and then connect it to a 12v battery...
Question - I just purchased the wave 2 with the add on battery that slides onto the bottom. When running the wave 2 on cooling with the shore power plugged in - I noticed that it seems to run off the battery as the battery’s charge was dripping. How do I get the unit to run off of shore power alone? When I turn off the battery the wave 2 turns off even though it is plugged into shore power. Thanks for your help.
Hi man, I noticed quite a bit of water pouring out of the unit (when tilted) even after I hit the drain button, would you say this is normal? I've never owned an AC unit before.
I know this is a older post. But going to ask this question anyway. Is there a way to turn of the battery charge lights? I just got the unit. But use it about once a week. So charge the battery up when I get a chance. But if it sits for two days the battery will start running down. Thinking it has to be the lights on the battery because the unit has not been used . It really does suck when you go to use it and the battery is not full and know you charged it to full. TIA
Wave 2 is still too difficult to power and charge. For charging it has to be connected to the battery. I don't have the Ecoflow energy storage product, but it seems designed to be a companion to a power station. I will choose the more portable and easy to power zero breeze mark2.
It might make the system a little more efficient with the second hose, but I prefer not to use it so that bugs don’t fly directly into the intake. I’m not sure how much more efficient it would be with the dedicated intake hose hooked up. But, it works fine this.
I’m assuming it would help efficiency as it’s design is a split ac. Like there divided inside the unit. Air coming input moves across the radiator, the excess hot air is blow out. On the front inside air is stuck in and move across the other side of radiator which then blow out front. Normally you don’t want to suck in the air your already cooling. That’s the correct design function. But that any space you trying maintain air pressure, which is sealed off from the external air. Since the wave2 with external battery is all water proof. He could set the whole thing outside. Just attach the large hose to the front output and blow in fresh air to the van. It might actually cool better as the rest of unit outside keep all that heat outside.
@@navaro20 if you don’t at least expel the hot air, the vehicle will never cool. There is another hose that will pull in air as well, but I didn’t use it.
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I am extremely busy with content creation. It seems like a nice power station, but I am not available to review it.
Is anyone else disappointed with the ecoflow Wave 2 air conditioner/heater? My recommendation is to use 7 inch air duct insulation to put over the AC exhaust hose. Because the exhaust hose omits a lot of heat from it. Also, the right side of the Wave 2 housing/body gets extremely warm and omits heat. This should be insulated on the inside. And I've noticed the Wave 2 fresh air hose when connected it seems to draw in the hot Texas summer air and diminishes cooling output. As well I noticed the battery life barely works for 2 hours on max before it is completely drained of power and dead! This unit is very overpriced for the performance that it shortly offers.
It’s a small unit, and these are all valid points. I’m satisfied with my unit so far. There are other larger cheaper units that run solely off AC power which work better, but aren’t as portable.
@OffGridAdventure , any suggestions? I'm thinking of taking off the fresh air intake hose and just letting it pull air from the cab of my truck instead of outside air.
Its more like managing realistic expectations, especially depending on ambient temperature and heat load from direct sunlight. If you have dark paint on your van, the heat load will be massive and this unit will likely not catch up until the sun goes down. Of course, if you only use the exhaust hose....you are pulling HOT air into your vehicle to compensate for that exhaust air. You need to connect the intake and exhaust hoses, routing both outside the vehicle.
Having both the Zero Breeze Mark2 and Wave1, and having watched the video, I firmly believe that the Mark2 remains the superior choice for my outdoor activities. However, the Wave2 disappoints me as it can only be powered by Ecoflow's proprietary battery and power storage, rendering my other brand's power storage and battery systems unusable. Moreover, the connection cable between the air conditioner and the battery is inconveniently bulky and prone to being misplaced. Unlike the ZB Mark2, it cannot be conveniently positioned between the front seats. Additionally, I am aware of the quality issues encountered with the Wave1, such as fan axle breakage and display failure, which understandably raises concerns among users. Unfortunately, it is challenging to anticipate when these problems might arise. The lack of information regarding any improvements made by Ecoflow for the Wave2 during this period leaves me uncertain if these issues have been adequately addressed.
I've heard this mentioned a couple of times and it's not true, the dang webpage tells you as much. You can use any wall plug, so any other battery pack that has a wall socket can power it. It's more efficient if you used all of their system since it's meant to work together.
Wow. I looked it up and you’re correct! R290 is propane. My biggest worry in this small van is fire hazards. Luckily there aren’t any open flames, so hopefully a leak would simply dissipate.
@TH-cam Channels yeah r410a is starting to phase out in the US but funny thing were actually starting to use r32. I still work on a lot of systems that still use r22 even though it's phased out our suppliers still sell the refrigerant. It's now $1,700 for 25 lbs here.
That drain water is probably the best water you can drink. Free distilled water! Might have leached chemicals from the internals but should be in the parts-per-million/billion, which would be more pure than most countries. Heck, even some states and counties in the US might have worse water from the tap.
What i don't understand is why people wouldn't allow the van's ac to condition the interior temperature for say about 20 minutes.. then turn the engine off.. then allow your ecoflow to then maintain that temperature on eco mode... that way is using less energy, and giving you a more effective way of using the ac.. But expecting it to jump start from a very hot interior temperature say 90 to cool down is being foolish if you have a working air conditioner in a vehicle... only my opinion... and how i plan to effectively work with mine...if your temperature is already ambient... i see eco flow as more efficient in maintaining a good temperature
That’s an excellent point. It’s a good idea to precool the van. But, for this video I was more focused on the unit’s performance without augmentation. Thanks for sharing this tip!
Over $2000 for only 5000btu? That’s crazy . The 10,000 btu window unit I paid $100 for isn’t even good enough to cool a 12 X 15 room. What’s that crappy 5,000 btu gonna do in a van that is a hot metal box.? I need the inside of my van or car to be at LEAST 70 degrees cool. Any hotter and it’s not AC.
Put a piece of screen on the end , you are wasting your time using it the way you are ! It’s creating a negative pressure and sucking heat into the vehicle ! ????
The AC is intriguing. The heater argument is laughable. How can you compare the heat pump efficiency of a battery powered system to a plug in space heater? If you only look at the heating, you're comparing an $1100 unit to a $30 unit that you don't pay for the power at a campsite. That said, I'd definately consider this for the AC operation. As far as that initial cool down, don't forget, you most likely have a very powerful AC system in your vehicle and can get the interior comforatble using that then use the Eco mode on the EcoFlow 2
Not matter how you look at it, a device like this is expensive compared the those space heaters or a plain fan. For $500 you can get a window AC unit. But, then you wouldn’t be Glamping in style.
If you don't use both intake and exhaust hoses there's no way this thing will work at all. You MUST pull air from the outside and then exhaust it back out.. otherwise it's worthless.
Don't buy this thing. the battery need the top part (36Lb) main machine to charge the add on battery. So, wherever you need to charge the battery, you need to bring the top part. Just don't understand why the battery is detachable for no meaning. They don't have an individual charger for the add on battery. the designer is out of mind. Don't make sense.
When I use it in my van I run the van's AC for 15 minutes to remove most of the heat then keep the Wave on eco all night to maintain the cool temps.
That is what I was thinking about doing as well. I know everything is relative to temperature, but roughly how much of the battery do you use overnight using your strategy?
After watching this video, there are a few points about Wave2 that caught my attention: The accompanying battery cannot be charged separately; it must be connected to the air conditioner to charge. This is particularly troublesome and unreasonable. When I deplete the battery of the air conditioner outdoors and want to charge it, I have to carry the entire air conditioning unit with me. Keep in mind that this adds up to a weight of 50 pounds. Wow, 50 pounds! What does that have to do with portability? For me, portability is a crucial factor to consider, and I might choose Zero Breeze instead. Their product weighs less than 30 pounds, which is half the weight of Wave2, and can be easily lifted with one hand.
Oh, thank you! I was initially considering EcoFlow, but now I'm leaning towards Zero Breeze. Although EcoFlow has a higher BTU, Zero Breeze should be sufficient for my tent.
Insulation and shade are key to proper cooling.
When I ripped the roof liner out of my van it became a hit box in the sun. Inside temperature easily came to 30°F over ambient. So putting new insulation in is my top priority before summer
Hmm, you should send that water in for testing
That thought crossed my mind. Then I started to think about the material of the AC. So, I would be skeptical, even if the test came back good. The material could eventually leach something.
Why would u rip out the roof? Of course it’s gonna be an oven in there
@@Puddycat00 the idea is to do better then what was before. Standard vehicle insulation is 1/2 inch at best.
As for condensation that you noticed when in heat mode, think of it this way: it’s a dehumidifier on whatever the cooling side is, so in heat mode it is actually dehumidifying the outside air (perhaps the reason why drainage is required in heat mode).
While it doesn’t actually remove water from the inside air in heat mode, it does raise the temperature which will lower the relative humidity, making the heated air feel dryer.
Thanks for showing the venting. It's hard to see any photos of how it looks with it in where I was looking to purchase it online.
Great review!
Installed in a vehicle like this there's definitely room for further improvement in efficiency... A shroud for the condenser (cooling mode) inlet with another duct leading to the drivers side window would help. As it's connected now the unit is pushing hot air out the exhaust duct, but that means it's pulling in unconditioned air through leaks or vents in the cabin, reducing efficiency. A separate fresh air inlet for the condenser would provide this, and keep unconditioned (warm) air from being drawn in.
Another possible direction would be to mount the unit outside the van. Build a shelf that would hang on the top of one of mostly open the windows, external to the van, maybe with an extendible painters pole attached to support the weight. The unit would sit, with just the front section inside the van. Use foam poster board cut to block airflow around the opening - between the unit and the door frame. And maybe another foam board arched over the top of the unit to reduce its exposure to the elements. Besides being more efficient, this option would likely make it quieter inside the van.
This unit has me thinking of insulating the van better. The system works, but my van doesn’t do it any favors. I’m going to try it in a tent soon.
Yep:) he is basically creating a negative pressure environment in the van and with the exhaust hose just going out the window with all air gaps mostly pulling hot air directly back in the car creating a hot zone up front making the AC even less efficient. I would not follow what this guy did at all:)
@@matthewwiemken7293 I don't think his setup is too terrible... At least the air he's exhausting is probably quite a bit warmer than the ambient / outside air that's getting drawn in through leaks. But there's definitely room for improvement.
@@AdventureGearTV insulation would certainly help, especially if it's in the sun. But the biggest efficiency gain will still be had by sealing up the air leaks. Keep the conditioned air inside and the unconditioned air on the outside. Then insulation. Then covering the windows. Cover on the outside in the summer - to keep the IR outside the glass. On the inside in the winter. Actually, if the van has factory interior - headliner and upholstery, both of which function as insulation, I'd tackle the window covers first.
Great video! I have been thinking about incorporating a Heat Pump into my build out. Being able to both heat and cool from one device is the way to go. Dehumidifying the air really does a lot to increase the comfort level. Your stand alone fan is also a great addition to boost the comfort level. Great informative video! Thank you.... it really helps me with my build out.
Question: What size solar panel are you using on your roof?
Hi, I have a 180w BougeRV panel. They make a 200w with the same footprint that is a newer model. I have video showing the entire install process.
@@AdventureGearTV Thanks!
interesting, I am a tent camper and just wandering how much area would this thing heat or chill in a 10 x 10 tent. Great video!!
Hi, I think this would work in your tent if it’s sealed up and the rain fly can act as insulation from the sun. It’s plenty cool just sitting nearby, but might not work as good on a windy day.
If the wave2 with battery was inside the tent. You run the two hoses to the outside, which keep you cooling or heating.
Or you keep the wave2 outside the tent, just have the air output blowing into the tent. Just the unit would not know what temperature was inside the tent.
As the wave2 with external battery is required for cooling or hearting off grid or with use from the xt60 dc Jack say for other batteries, direct solar panels or like vehicle dc.
If your camp site had ac 120v standard plug you just use the ac adaptor to wave2. You wouldn’t need the external battery. Seems the external battery has the dc regulator built into it so it’s required for solar or other dc sources for use cooling or heating.
I'm looking forward to get mg Wave 2 Monday. I can't wait to see it in action.
Have the ecoflow wave. Great AC but too heavy to be portable. Use it for offgrid lifestyle. Don't waste $$ on the add on battery. Recharging is ridiculous complicated & restrictive options. Use direct with solar panels or with our solar power station.
Part of the reason there's water left over in the drain is because of the intentional design to help the water splash the coil to keep it cool never dump the water out unless you're done using it for an extended period of time
Great Review! - Now Manufactures or after market designers need to take into account the Van designs, The base of the passengers or Divers seat should be either a power bank/ or a 12V Power station!! - or as a first step design power banks to simply slide under the seats All of this to Maximize Room in vans! - The NEXT step would be to design Front seats to be Modular A/C-Heaters all incorporated, again to maximize Van space!! - this step would incorporate drainage and an outside air port exchange built in to the vans!!
- so to summarize an easy to disconnect Modular Seat system(for ease of repair or transferability) that is a Power bank and AC/Fan/dehumidifier Built in SEAT UNIT would be ideal for Mobile situations!
- who wouldn’t want to jump in their van and just tap a few buttons an be ready to go vs having to setup these Hog size type of units constantly?
That’s an excellent point. I think the new Sienna Woodland checks a lot of those boxes. It’s just very expensive right now.
Please do a review after using it over the summer. I am hoping to get one next year.
I plan to use it all summer. And maybe into the winter.
@AdventureGearTV hey so how's it been?? Both AC and heat? I found it for $1k with battery and was thinking of buying it. It had terrible reviews on Amazon but 🤷♂️. I'm needing heat and air for camping in my gmc Sierra with camper top on bed. I've already built a bed with sliding drawer out of extruded aluminum and put wood flooring with insulation down. Really hoping to find one unit for heat and air! Please let us know if you still recommend after one year! Thx for vid!
@@OTRFlyer don't waist your money the heat that comes off of the exhaust hose stops the cooling of the room you need to buy an insulated cover for the hose. And the add on batter will only keep the air con running on cool for about 2hrs on max and if it's over 30 outside in Australia that just won't work to keep you cool all night. you need to buy the bigger power sauce. As it doesn't keep our 7mt motorhome cool on eco mode or low fan mode. And in heat mode it will only run for up to 2.5hrs with the add on battery. It cost me a lot of money. I had to buy insulation cover for exhaust vent hose a car charger to charge battery while driving. And a 160w solar panel won't charge it fully on a full day of sun either. And the first one I brought only lasted a week and I only used it a few times had to wait and get another one under warranty :( and now the fan is making a noise at times and an error came up and it's an issue with them as well. And we've only had it 5 months and only use it when we go camping. Have to express to you a lot of heat comes off of the exhaust tube. And the add on battery will only run it for approx 2.5 hrs.
Do you recommend at the price it is?
Cheaper than buying a hybrid sienna
You make an excellent point, Larry. Way cheaper for sure. The hybrid sienna is something I want, but I don't want to get back into debt anymore.
It’s a tough question to answer. It seems to work fine, and it’s not extremely big compared to what it does. Also, how often would a regular person actually use it? Three times in a year. I plan to use it much more.
So I managed to order a Wave2 early this morning for $999 from a non-Ecoflow site. The Ecoflow coupons and codes and discounts were so convoluted. I so appreciate this video! Great reminder about the app; i should probably check for updates to my Delta Max. Loved the demo of the hose in the window -- it looks better than my version 😄 Is that pool noodle oversized by chance? Placing the drain hose in a bottle is ingenious 😁 Have you tried charging any of the devices with the cigarette lighter while you're driving? (Assuming you're not parked for several days). So many possibilities 😀 Thank you so much!
Hi, it is the oversized noodle. You can charge with the car outlet. IT’s limited to 8amps max. So, it’ll be around 100w for a 12v system and 200w for a 24v system. I’m not a fan of their coupon system. Thanks for stopping in, and WELCOME!
Dont waste $$ for the add on battery. I did and regret it. Point of use was off grid lifestyle. Says recharge plugged into the AC unit & unit plugged into dedicated house outlet on the grid. Didnt recharge. User manual claims can charge thru our delta pro solar power station which meant I spent another $200 for the necessary power cord & plug adapter. Didnt work. Says it can charge via USB. Didnt work either
Sounds like you have a broken battery. With the battery connected it should pull 800w, either all 800 to chargethe battery, or 400 for the battery and 400 for the unit if it's on.
I was happy to find if you're plugged into the wall it doesn't run power "through" the battery, just charges it then leaves it as a backup.
Of course, the battery being LiFePO4, and seperately chargable, would have been much better. Though it would also be much bigger and heavier!
How long will this last on its own battery if you set it at 72°? And how long does it take to fully charge?
That would depend on the ambient temperature. From my tests it could be as little as 3 hrs if it’s going against the sun.
@@AdventureGearTV at night in desert areas like inland empire California.
Does the connection on the Wave 2 where the battery plugs in to, does it just have 2 pins or does it also have some data pins? Trying to determine if I can jerry rig my own alternate DC power source using that connection as their price per wH for their battery is very poor and I have existing DC power source options at my disposal.
The XT60i has data pins, and the XT150 plug has 6-8 additional needle pins.
Did you only vent the exhaust hose, not the intake? (sorry if I missed it in the video - I was multitasking!)
And thanks for the pool noodle ideas. Great idea!
Correct. I only vented the exhaust hose. Although it wouldn’t be too difficult to vent the intake as well. However, bugs can be an issue when pulling air directly from outside. Either way, the system gets the air that it needs to work.
I hope it helps!
Why not have it pull in air from outside to cool the evaporator? Would increase the efficiency a lot and then you won’t need the curtain rod.
I don’t like dealing with all of the bugs that get sucked into it. They clog up the evaporator.
@@AdventureGearTV Yummy! Well, something to consider would be a mesh/screen of some sort, but good to know!
@@mexifinn7830 great tip. I have a mess screen that I tried on another AC unit, and I use those screens frequently without AC. But, they get clogged with small bugs at night.
No you want the cooler air from the area you're conditioning hot air will make it less effective and decrease the cooling. He really shouldn't be trying to isolate the area from the return..
@@cwindsor8585 evaporator is the hot side of the ac. Condenser is the cool side.
You WANT to use outside air to blow the heat away from the evaporator. Otherwise you are taking already cooled air to expel the heat. The negative pressure will then promote the suction of hot humor air to come back in.
That’s why those free standing acs are less efficient than window units.
Can it be wired to a 12v source? For instance, if I’m driving around can my car charge it?
It accepts up to 400w from XT60 input. But, it’s limited to 200w from a car input. Also, 8 amps. So, 200w from a 24v system and 100w from a 12v system.
The Bluetti DC Charging Enhancer upvolts whatever comes into to around 50 volts, I wonder if an adapter could be rigged up to adapt the output from that into an XT60, and then connect it to a 12v battery...
@@AdventureGearTV so can I charge this of my 12 volt and am I able to use it plugged into my inverter
Question - I just purchased the wave 2 with the add on battery that slides onto the bottom. When running the wave 2 on cooling with the shore power plugged in - I noticed that it seems to run off the battery as the battery’s charge was dripping. How do I get the unit to run off of shore power alone? When I turn off the battery the wave 2 turns off even though it is plugged into shore power. Thanks for your help.
Unplug the battery from the Wave 2. It’ll run off AC power alone.
Hi man, I noticed quite a bit of water pouring out of the unit (when tilted) even after I hit the drain button, would you say this is normal? I've never owned an AC unit before.
Yes. I have to carefully drain the rest every time I use it.
That little bit of water is designed to be in there and should only be removed when done using for an extended period of time
Do the ventilation hoses come with it or will I have to buy that extra? Thanks for a great review!
It comes with everything you see in the video. You might want a third ventilation hose, depending on how you plan to use it.
I know this is a older post. But going to ask this question anyway. Is there a way to turn of the battery charge lights? I just got the unit. But use it about once a week. So charge the battery up when I get a chance. But if it sits for two days the battery will start running down. Thinking it has to be the lights on the battery because the unit has not been used . It really does suck when you go to use it and the battery is not full and know you charged it to full. TIA
I disconnect the XT150 cable while not using it because of this problem. You can also hold the power button to shut it down if I remember correctly.
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I ordered Delta 2 to use with Wave 2, but it hasn’t arrived yet.
Do you happen to know if XT150 cable comes with Delta 2 or I have to buy extra ?
You’ll need the additional cable from their website.
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The coupon works at Amazon link you posted?
Did you try it on Amazon, and it didn’t work?
I'm trying but it not working
I'm trying to buy from there website but they want to charge me sales tax, but Oregon doesn't have sales tax
What would be an cheaper alternative to this Boss?
Get a small usb fan for $20 bucks. Problem solved.
Great idea with the pool noodle
Pool noodle is a genius idea.
Cheap and easy!
Wave 2 is still too difficult to power and charge. For charging it has to be connected to the battery. I don't have the Ecoflow energy storage product, but it seems designed to be a companion to a power station. I will choose the more portable and easy to power zero breeze mark2.
I’ve used the zero breeze, and you’re better off just using a box fan.
Thanks for the info
so, in the van, you do not need to install the other hose in back of unit and put that outside as well as the top vent????
It might make the system a little more efficient with the second hose, but I prefer not to use it so that bugs don’t fly directly into the intake. I’m not sure how much more efficient it would be with the dedicated intake hose hooked up. But, it works fine this.
I’m assuming it would help efficiency as it’s design is a split ac. Like there divided inside the unit. Air coming input moves across the radiator, the excess hot air is blow out.
On the front inside air is stuck in and move across the other side of radiator which then blow out front. Normally you don’t want to suck in the air your already cooling. That’s the correct design function. But that any space you trying maintain air pressure, which is sealed off from the external air.
Since the wave2 with external battery is all water proof. He could set the whole thing outside. Just attach the large hose to the front output and blow in fresh air to the van. It might actually cool better as the rest of unit outside keep all that heat outside.
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Why is the air intake ran outside wouldn't it work better?If it used the air from inside and push the harder out like a normal air conditioner
Hahahaha the chilling truth 😂 Let's see your reviews on this!! :D
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Is this the one you said you had to make a bubble too keep cool?
Nope, that was this one: th-cam.com/video/9BR07bN3DEU/w-d-xo.html
In what store we can buy this ?
I think REI carries it.
@@AdventureGearTV inside of the car those tubes is mandatory to install to conduct air inside/ouside, or we can without?
@@navaro20 if you don’t at least expel the hot air, the vehicle will never cool. There is another hose that will pull in air as well, but I didn’t use it.
Great video! 😎Interested in reviewing our Energizer PPS2000?
Hi, thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I am extremely busy with content creation. It seems like a nice power station, but I am not available to review it.
Ecoflow pumps the water from condensate to up of the heater, so switching to heat would blow it back.
If that’s the case, then it should evaporate the condensate. But, the pan is always full in no drain mode.
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My second favorite kind of noodles. lol.
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What does water smell like?
Does this need to be vented?
Hi.. good video..I'm saving up to buy a 300 at least...have a nice day ..
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Is anyone else disappointed with the ecoflow Wave 2 air conditioner/heater?
My recommendation is to use 7 inch air duct insulation to put over the AC exhaust hose. Because the exhaust hose omits a lot of heat from it.
Also, the right side of the Wave 2 housing/body gets extremely warm and omits heat. This should be insulated on the inside.
And I've noticed the Wave 2 fresh air hose when connected it seems to draw in the hot Texas summer air and diminishes cooling output.
As well I noticed the battery life barely works for 2 hours on max before it is completely drained of power and dead!
This unit is very overpriced for the performance that it shortly offers.
It’s a small unit, and these are all valid points. I’m satisfied with my unit so far. There are other larger cheaper units that run solely off AC power which work better, but aren’t as portable.
@OffGridAdventure , any suggestions?
I'm thinking of taking off the fresh air intake hose and just letting it pull air from the cab of my truck instead of outside air.
Its more like managing realistic expectations, especially depending on ambient temperature and heat load from direct sunlight. If you have dark paint on your van, the heat load will be massive and this unit will likely not catch up until the sun goes down.
Of course, if you only use the exhaust hose....you are pulling HOT air into your vehicle to compensate for that exhaust air. You need to connect the intake and exhaust hoses, routing both outside the vehicle.
@darknes7800 , I ran both hoes out.
What gets me is that the air blowing out of the unit seems to never blow cooler than 83 degrees.
Having both the Zero Breeze Mark2 and Wave1, and having watched the video, I firmly believe that the Mark2 remains the superior choice for my outdoor activities. However, the Wave2 disappoints me as it can only be powered by Ecoflow's proprietary battery and power storage, rendering my other brand's power storage and battery systems unusable. Moreover, the connection cable between the air conditioner and the battery is inconveniently bulky and prone to being misplaced. Unlike the ZB Mark2, it cannot be conveniently positioned between the front seats.
Additionally, I am aware of the quality issues encountered with the Wave1, such as fan axle breakage and display failure, which understandably raises concerns among users. Unfortunately, it is challenging to anticipate when these problems might arise. The lack of information regarding any improvements made by Ecoflow for the Wave2 during this period leaves me uncertain if these issues have been adequately addressed.
I've heard this mentioned a couple of times and it's not true, the dang webpage tells you as much.
You can use any wall plug, so any other battery pack that has a wall socket can power it. It's more efficient if you used all of their system since it's meant to work together.
I think this comment was from a spam bot. I’m not positive, but just the way it reads.
Neat little heat pump, I don't care for the fact they use r290 which is propane for a refrigerant. It probably only holds a few oz but still.
Wow. I looked it up and you’re correct! R290 is propane. My biggest worry in this small van is fire hazards. Luckily there aren’t any open flames, so hopefully a leak would simply dissipate.
In Europe r32 and r410 will be forbidden soon. So all manufacturers are switching to r290 for heat pumps.
All old cars with r12 are updated to r290 as r12 not longer available
@TH-cam Channels yeah r410a is starting to phase out in the US but funny thing were actually starting to use r32. I still work on a lot of systems that still use r22 even though it's phased out our suppliers still sell the refrigerant. It's now $1,700 for 25 lbs here.
That drain water is probably the best water you can drink. Free distilled water! Might have leached chemicals from the internals but should be in the parts-per-million/billion, which would be more pure than most countries. Heck, even some states and counties in the US might have worse water from the tap.
I’ve been pouring out around one gallon per day running this thing. I had it in my tent for my recent video. Still works good.
It's dehumdifier water! Free ticket to dysentry!
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What i don't understand is why people wouldn't allow the van's ac to condition the interior temperature for say about 20 minutes.. then turn the engine off.. then allow your ecoflow to then maintain that temperature on eco mode... that way is using less energy, and giving you a more effective way of using the ac..
But expecting it to jump start from a very hot interior temperature say 90 to cool down is being foolish if you have a working air conditioner in a vehicle... only my opinion... and how i plan to effectively work with mine...if your temperature is already ambient... i see eco flow as more efficient in maintaining a good temperature
That’s an excellent point. It’s a good idea to precool the van. But, for this video I was more focused on the unit’s performance without augmentation. Thanks for sharing this tip!
@@AdventureGearTV ok.i got you now!!
The lithium-ion battery is a deal breaker. COME ON ECOFLOW!
Another option would be to use there Delta with the xt150 connector. That might work better overall.
For the same price just run it off delta 2
yeah, just purchase the Delta 2 instead (LFP and much more usable)
@@Jasonoid I have been looking to see if you post a video on this. I’m surprised you haven’t. Anything in the works?
Over $2000 for only 5000btu? That’s crazy .
The 10,000 btu window unit I paid $100 for isn’t even good enough to cool a 12 X 15 room. What’s that crappy 5,000 btu gonna do in a van that is a hot metal box.? I need the inside of my van or car to be at LEAST 70 degrees cool. Any hotter and it’s not AC.
It’s designed to be a smaller more portable unit. I’ve seen some big box 5,000 BTU units for close to $400. But, they would not fit in the my van.
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For whatever reason Ecoflow didn't try hard enough with this A/C. So much restriction on charging and using a NMC battery is just pathetic.
It will cool better if you complete the loop , it comes with 2 hoses for a reason ! ????
I don’t like dealing with all of the bugs that get sucked into it. So, for me this is more convenient.
Put a piece of screen on the end , you are wasting your time using it the way you are ! It’s creating a negative pressure and sucking heat into the vehicle ! ????
The AC is intriguing. The heater argument is laughable. How can you compare the heat pump efficiency of a battery powered system to a plug in space heater? If you only look at the heating, you're comparing an $1100 unit to a $30 unit that you don't pay for the power at a campsite. That said, I'd definately consider this for the AC operation. As far as that initial cool down, don't forget, you most likely have a very powerful AC system in your vehicle and can get the interior comforatble using that then use the Eco mode on the EcoFlow 2
Not matter how you look at it, a device like this is expensive compared the those space heaters or a plain fan. For $500 you can get a window AC unit. But, then you wouldn’t be Glamping in style.
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If you don't use both intake and exhaust hoses there's no way this thing will work at all. You MUST pull air from the outside and then exhaust it back out.. otherwise it's worthless.
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The heat not working
Might have a bad unit.
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The heat is not working ❤
Might have a bad unit.
I live in an apartment and so far the portable AC I got, all sucked ass.
The funny thing is that I looked at some other portable air conditioners, and they are only slightly more powerful. But not as portable.
Why wouldn't the water be safe to drink? It's literally distilled water
Has anybody field tested one of these?
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They do strange things with the pricing by making a slightly better deal in one place over another.
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This doesn’t sound all that good. So I only get 8hrs? And it takes 6hrs to charge? No good
If you use a larger power station like the Delta 2 Max, you can run it and charge it at the same time.
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Don't buy this thing. the battery need the top part (36Lb) main machine to charge the add on battery. So, wherever you need to charge the battery, you need to bring the top part. Just don't understand why the battery is detachable for no meaning. They don't have an individual charger for the add on battery. the designer is out of mind. Don't make sense.
This is a valid concern. I’m going to try to charge it with the new Delta 2 Max. I’ve heard this might work, but I’m not positive yet.
Wisozk Viaduct
pretty cool but i think you need a bigger truck....lol..
I’d love to upsize, but the prices are too wild.
Wagon lol
There’s a limit to how long I’d want to carry it.
8910 Roberts Mountains
It looks like winter there. Take that thing to Arizona or Texas and push its limits
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