Thank you for the review. Nice and detailed and like the remarks. Don't agree with the regulator comment though as for only boiling water you use other systems. This is a system you would use for cooking and then regulating the output is high on the list. If you car camp and still cook freeze dried stuff. Check out Lisa Thomas her book, dirty dining. I really like it and use it on motorized trips.
Peter, Let's agree to disagree ;-). No, I understand what you mean but my old one has a super regulator that also works fine while simmering. The remark is not about boiling water. Then you just need speed and power. I am hobby cook myself. Like most professional kitchen stoves - I have a huge Electrolux - I would prefer just 3/4 turn from simmer to max. And the difficult thing with the cooksets is that you can hardly see the flame and sometimes a bit more noise works well too. I'll check the booktip! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks for all the info and being so detailed. I look forward to using the stove and will be careful with the handle grip. Must be fun for you to do these reviews!
Dear Martha, It is fun!! And thank you for the comment. I hope you are a follower because I don't have to many ladies amongst them and I don't know why. Maybe you could give me some feedback from a ladies perspective on my video's? Cheers, Gijs
Thanks for the review, will check out your other videos for sure! Recently bought the 2.3L version and they seem to include a decent sized cloth that prevents the inside of both pots from scratching. The handle is still wobbles on the non-stick pot, might try to add some additional rubber to the ends if it becomes an issue. Other pot fits very nicely tho. Wish they would put perhaps tape down the igniter, seem to have scratched slightly inside the burner. Yet to test it out, but looking forward to it! edit: Also bought it at roughly 40-50% discount
I'm trying to find a comparison between the prime tech and li tech 2.3L pots. Other than the heat exchanger they seem to be identical. I was hoping someone had done a boil comparison between the two to see just how much that heat exchanger (175g extra, with 4cm more height, and couple of pounds more expensive) actually contribute to efficiency.
Hi Michael, I know I need to get back on your email 🙃. It's a bit busy at the moment as you may have noticed. Regarding the heat exchanger... I did many tests in the past and it makes a big difference in gas consumption and boiling times. I mostly go out with my trusted EtaPower MF or a Jetboil. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I'm curious because another youtubes was looking at heating efficiency of pots as they got wider and it made me question the efficiency of heat exchangers on wider pots. So no worries about putting together an email as we'll be soon stuck with the pots we ordered : ) We went for an omnilite stove with silencer. Between the two we should have a moderatly light, efficiency, powerful, quiet cooking set up.
right now they are saying that it weighs 1060 grams on their website. thats 30g difference to your measured 1090 which is inside the manufacturing tolerances in my eyes. i dont really know where you found the information that it weighs 870g because even for the 1.3l set they say it is 903g.
Dear Marcus, I do understand your remark on tolerances but since it is nog a softgood, I still think it is a lot. The 870 grams was communicated to me by Primus at that time. Maybe they changed something in the set now... Does this answer your question? Thanks for following! Cheers, Gijs
Hi Mastac, Yes, that could be. Sometimes they do change gear that I reviewed and the weight changes with. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks a lot for your thorough review. What alternatives do you recommend me to have a look at? I need something light weight, gas, for cooking for 4 persons.
Hi Hester, Do you know Trangia? Take a peek at that brand. Or just a simple burner like the MSR Whisperlite and separate pans. If this doens't work, give me call. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I cant find a Trangia kit with as large pots for family of five. Is there a combination from Trangia that is larger than 1,75l?
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thanks, just received a Primus Primetech and I like it, will keep it and see if it beats my Trangia. Primus has added a protective cloth now, maybe thanks to you 👍👍
Hi Tree, That is how we use it. So yes: it is effective. One remark though.... the previous Eta Power was even better but primus stopped making that one. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Hoi Gijs, bedankt for all your in-depth calculations etc. I love how this set works. Why they don’t have this set in Titanium ?Nevertheless I’m looking for a titanium pot with fluxring. One that could be perfect for whisperlite for example. Would you know any brand that’s making this ? I’d love to see a comparison video with any aluminium to titan pans with rings etc ! Please advice !
Hi Jur, Thanks for the comment! For as far as I am aware there are no titanium pots with a heat exchanger. If you find one: let me know! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks a lot for the review. Could you please comment on: 1. How many CO produced at full power around 2000W? 2. What is the optimal power to get lowest CO production?
Hi Leonid, Nice questions but I don't have an answer. 1) I don't measure CO since I don't have a device for this. 2) Probably when you have a nice blue flame. Bit this will depend on air pressure, hight and how much is in the canister.... Sorry I can't help you further. Why do you want to know this? cooking in a tent? Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews occasionally we cook within the tent, yes. Lately cookware with heat exchanger arise few CO-poisoning issues. I acknowledge it is always stated in users manual to cook in well ventilated place, so no official testing/certification applied. Thanks!
Here goes official reply from Primus support: 1. All our stoves are tested by third part at low and high pressure (0,5 and 2 bar) and the CO-value is to be below 2000 ppm. For the Primetech the values at full power at 1 bar is about 200 ppm CO 2. For the Primetech it works better at high effect. My comments: Having 2000 ppm is certainly a lot, comparable to MSR Reactor, but CO 200 ppm for Primetech (if not a typo?!) is a pleasant value, compared to what reported on zenstoves website, e.g. MSR Pocket rocket also around 200. Conclusion that higher power gives less CO also matches advices from zenstoves manual.
Hi Lars, True but not totally. I have a few older Primus Eta Powers and they do a super job with only one full turn. This is to me more practical and turning and turning and turning.... just irritating. But he, It's only how I feel about this. 😉 Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Hi Channy, I missed your comment so I am sorry for the late reply. 1st Why would you want it? 2) Not like this since the feet to keep it upside down are not included. I will give a try with a other kit that I have laying around somewhere. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Hello! and thank you for your reply. As you know the gas canister stoves they don't work well without liquid injection upon the winter, especially my country doesn't allow the LV canister contains Propane, means only n&iso butane they are not well on the cold condition... I thought this stove has a big Brass Tube/Pile on the burner so it might help to be vapord gas as the inverted position even though Primus didn't declare about it. I'll purchase the same stove soon and hope it works as the inverted postion. I found one web article which says Primetech stove's burner is working well as inverted canister but I don't have own experience, so if you have it it's worth to try for some guys like me... thank you!!!
I do agree Javad. I have one and it works fine but.... it is not as fast and I not as good as the old Primus MF. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
It has to do with the heat exchanger under the main pan. My old one does an even better job and also I can fit more pans in that one. I use it in a combination with some Trangia pans ;-). It's a pity they don't make that one anymore.
Depending on how cold it is and how full the cartouche is.... I used it with 5 C and it is still is sort of ok. Takes longer for sure and the trick is to put some warmth in the cartouche before cooking. The Primus Wintergas is better.
Too bulky and heavy for what it is. Why would anyone want two pots? Trangia is selling more and more 27 models and even the mini. People is a bit fed up with bulk and weight. This is from the very old mindset of charging for bells and whistles. Nowadays, people prefer more focused gear for lunch lighter weight. For this price, one can go with titanium cookware and an ultra light and compact burner. This is probably a good product, but if I should say my opinion, an obsolete mindset.
Hi Pete, Thank you for the comment. Don't mistake your wishes with everyones wishes. I like small sets like the Jetboil too and small single burners but there are enough small families that use these kind of sets. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Hi Christina, It is a part of a MSR stove. Take a peek here www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/solid-heat-reflector-with-windscreen/11812.html Cheers, Gijs
Hi Robert, And where do I get the hot water from....right from the same PrimeTech. Unless when I travel from home. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews like I said from the thermos you had, you could have put hot water in it, but then you also said it was quick to boil water, contradiction 🤔
Hi Robert, That could be a debate 😉 but I am used the the way better previous model with fixed piezo and that one is easy to lit with the pot on. And... even with the pot of the PrimeTech is not a joy too lit. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@Dogsoldier59 Not with you, with Primus. The Piezo lighter - at least the one I had - is not that good. I noticed it with the Primus Firestick too. The fixed one works already for 7 years or more without any problems.
Dear Puro, please explain a bit more since I don't get you comment. I got all the time in the world and prefer cooking on a campfire so time is not an issue. Time and fuel efficiency in gas or petrol burners is too many people who camp an issue. Is that what you mean? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
What happens when you try to ignite the fuel with the pot on is that the fuel gas gets trapped under the pot and mixes with air. The resulting mix or concentration of fuel and air produces a mix that contains too much fuel for ignition. For butane, if the concentration is over (if I remember correctly) 8-9% then it simply will not ignite. That’s why it’s not igniting with the pot on!
Thank you for the review. Nice and detailed and like the remarks.
Don't agree with the regulator comment though as for only boiling water you use other systems. This is a system you would use for cooking and then regulating the output is high on the list.
If you car camp and still cook freeze dried stuff. Check out Lisa Thomas her book, dirty dining. I really like it and use it on motorized trips.
Peter, Let's agree to disagree ;-). No, I understand what you mean but my old one has a super regulator that also works fine while simmering. The remark is not about boiling water. Then you just need speed and power. I am hobby cook myself. Like most professional kitchen stoves - I have a huge Electrolux - I would prefer just 3/4 turn from simmer to max. And the difficult thing with the cooksets is that you can hardly see the flame and sometimes a bit more noise works well too. I'll check the booktip! Cheers, Gijs
Very detailed and informative. Logical & clear. Thank you.
;-))) Cheers, Gijs
Thanks for all the info and being so detailed. I look forward to using the stove and will be careful with the handle grip.
Must be fun for you to do these reviews!
Dear Martha, It is fun!! And thank you for the comment. I hope you are a follower because I don't have to many ladies amongst them and I don't know why. Maybe you could give me some feedback from a ladies perspective on my video's? Cheers, Gijs
Thank you for your honest and detailed review on this, as I’m researching what to buy.
Thanks for the comment. Honest is a keyword in what I do. Please read the word ;-)
The last thing I need is another hiking stove but I enjoyed your review anyway. Thanks.
Hi Alan, Thanks for the compliment. And no.... it is not my choice either. Cheers, Gijs
nice review here and very fair/unbiased opinion. it's really help me on making the decision on purchasing. thank you
Dear Jiwa, I try hard so thank you for the compliment! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
Thanks for the review, will check out your other videos for sure!
Recently bought the 2.3L version and they seem to include a decent sized cloth that prevents the inside of both pots from scratching. The handle is still wobbles on the non-stick pot, might try to add some additional rubber to the ends if it becomes an issue. Other pot fits very nicely tho.
Wish they would put perhaps tape down the igniter, seem to have scratched slightly inside the burner.
Yet to test it out, but looking forward to it!
edit: Also bought it at roughly 40-50% discount
Sweet deal! Did you see this review: th-cam.com/video/j2ciP4_mMwA/w-d-xo.html Might be useful 😉. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
You could off course light the gas before you place the pot on the stove..., much easier.😃
Lars, It is a bit, but still... why make things worse if you have a perfect fool proof system?
Great review! Nice and detailed and with notes of comparison to other models
Hi Manny, Thanks for the compliment🙏. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Is this better for groups or just a perfect size for 2 people?...
2 is fine! 3 or 4 also. Not more. Hope this helps. Cheers, Gijs
I'm trying to find a comparison between the prime tech and li tech 2.3L pots. Other than the heat exchanger they seem to be identical. I was hoping someone had done a boil comparison between the two to see just how much that heat exchanger (175g extra, with 4cm more height, and couple of pounds more expensive) actually contribute to efficiency.
Hi Michael, I know I need to get back on your email 🙃. It's a bit busy at the moment as you may have noticed. Regarding the heat exchanger... I did many tests in the past and it makes a big difference in gas consumption and boiling times. I mostly go out with my trusted EtaPower MF or a Jetboil. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I'm curious because another youtubes was looking at heating efficiency of pots as they got wider and it made me question the efficiency of heat exchangers on wider pots.
So no worries about putting together an email as we'll be soon stuck with the pots we ordered : ) We went for an omnilite stove with silencer. Between the two we should have a moderatly light, efficiency, powerful, quiet cooking set up.
right now they are saying that it weighs 1060 grams on their website. thats 30g difference to your measured 1090 which is inside the manufacturing tolerances in my eyes. i dont really know where you found the information that it weighs 870g because even for the 1.3l set they say it is 903g.
Dear Marcus, I do understand your remark on tolerances but since it is nog a softgood, I still think it is a lot. The 870 grams was communicated to me by Primus at that time. Maybe they changed something in the set now... Does this answer your question? Thanks for following! Cheers, Gijs
Good review, thanks. It seems that they have updated the weights on the Website (900g for the 1,3l version and 1060g for the 2.3l one).
Hi Mastac, Yes, that could be. Sometimes they do change gear that I reviewed and the weight changes with. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks a lot for your thorough review. What alternatives do you recommend me to have a look at? I need something light weight, gas, for cooking for 4 persons.
Hi Hester, Do you know Trangia? Take a peek at that brand. Or just a simple burner like the MSR Whisperlite and separate pans. If this doens't work, give me call. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I cant find a Trangia kit with as large pots for family of five. Is there a combination from Trangia that is larger than 1,75l?
@@JoppeHappy No I don't think so. You need to bay a extra pot.... Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thanks, just received a Primus Primetech and I like it, will keep it and see if it beats my Trangia. Primus has added a protective cloth now, maybe thanks to you 👍👍
How effective is the insulating bag? Would it keep veg hot while you fry fish as an example?
Hi Tree, That is how we use it. So yes: it is effective. One remark though.... the previous Eta Power was even better but primus stopped making that one. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Hoi Gijs, bedankt for all your in-depth calculations etc. I love how this set works. Why they don’t have this set in Titanium ?Nevertheless I’m looking for a titanium pot with fluxring. One that could be perfect for whisperlite for example. Would you know any brand that’s making this ? I’d love to see a comparison video with any aluminium to titan pans with rings etc ! Please advice !
Hi Jur, Thanks for the comment! For as far as I am aware there are no titanium pots with a heat exchanger. If you find one: let me know! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
What shoes do you use? They looked so cool.
Dear Karl, Just follow the link ;-) outdoorguru.com/outdoorgear-en/hiking-shoes/tecnica-forge-s-gtx-review-2/. Cheers, Gijs
Very good detailed review
Thank you! Did you see this one? th-cam.com/video/TrZ1ukEH3Cw/w-d-xo.html Enough lumens 😉. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks a lot for the review.
Could you please comment on:
1. How many CO produced at full power around 2000W?
2. What is the optimal power to get lowest CO production?
Hi Leonid, Nice questions but I don't have an answer. 1) I don't measure CO since I don't have a device for this. 2) Probably when you have a nice blue flame. Bit this will depend on air pressure, hight and how much is in the canister.... Sorry I can't help you further. Why do you want to know this? cooking in a tent? Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews occasionally we cook within the tent, yes. Lately cookware with heat exchanger arise few CO-poisoning issues. I acknowledge it is always stated in users manual to cook in well ventilated place, so no official testing/certification applied. Thanks!
@@BrerRa66it I thought that would be the reason. I have not heard of these issues. Could you inform me more on my email: gijs@outdoorguru.com ?
Here goes official reply from Primus support:
1. All our stoves are tested by third part at low and high pressure (0,5 and 2 bar)
and the CO-value is to be below 2000 ppm.
For the Primetech the values at full power at 1 bar is about 200 ppm CO
2. For the Primetech it works better at high effect.
My comments:
Having 2000 ppm is certainly a lot, comparable to MSR Reactor, but CO 200 ppm for Primetech (if not a typo?!) is a pleasant value, compared to what reported on zenstoves website, e.g. MSR Pocket rocket also around 200.
Conclusion that higher power gives less CO also matches advices from zenstoves manual.
@@BrerRa66it Well done!!! And thanks for helping. I have the new Firestick stove and I'll ask them to send the report about that one. Cheers, Gijs
Excellent review, as always👍 But does not the number of turns also ensure that you can simmer at a low temperature?
Hi Lars,
True but not totally. I have a few older Primus Eta Powers and they do a super job with only one full turn. This is to me more practical and turning and turning and turning.... just irritating. But he, It's only how I feel about this. 😉
Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe!
Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thank you four your prompt answer! Love your channel and your straightforward, no-nonsense, reviews. 👏🏼
Hello! thanks for the video, I'd like to ask one thing: Is the stove can work as the Inverted gas canister feeding? Thanks.
Hi Channy, I missed your comment so I am sorry for the late reply. 1st Why would you want it? 2) Not like this since the feet to keep it upside down are not included. I will give a try with a other kit that I have laying around somewhere. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Hello! and thank you for your reply. As you know the gas canister stoves they don't work well without liquid injection upon the winter, especially my country doesn't allow the LV canister contains Propane, means only n&iso butane they are not well on the cold condition... I thought this stove has a big Brass Tube/Pile on the burner so it might help to be vapord gas as the inverted position even though Primus didn't declare about it.
I'll purchase the same stove soon and hope it works as the inverted postion.
I found one web article which says Primetech stove's burner is working well as inverted canister but I don't have own experience, so if you have it it's worth to try for some guys like me... thank you!!!
Great review
🙏😊👍 Thanks Jonny E!
Thanks for sharing this review. I think Trangia stove kit looks much better than this. It's cheaper as well.
I do agree Javad. I have one and it works fine but.... it is not as fast and I not as good as the old Primus MF. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Why it's faster and better? Trangia stove gives you more degrees of freedom in terms of design.
It has to do with the heat exchanger under the main pan. My old one does an even better job and also I can fit more pans in that one. I use it in a combination with some Trangia pans ;-). It's a pity they don't make that one anymore.
Which tent is that in the video?
This one th-cam.com/video/cq1w7Ftd9QQ/w-d-xo.html 😉 Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
how does it perform in cold weather?
Depending on how cold it is and how full the cartouche is.... I used it with 5 C and it is still is sort of ok. Takes longer for sure and the trick is to put some warmth in the cartouche before cooking. The Primus Wintergas is better.
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thanks, BTW I really enjoyed your video.
Thanks Bardia! I try hard to make something descent😉
Too bulky and heavy for what it is. Why would anyone want two pots? Trangia is selling more and more 27 models and even the mini. People is a bit fed up with bulk and weight. This is from the very old mindset of charging for bells and whistles. Nowadays, people prefer more focused gear for lunch lighter weight.
For this price, one can go with titanium cookware and an ultra light and compact burner. This is probably a good product, but if I should say my opinion, an obsolete mindset.
Hi Pete, Thank you for the comment. Don't mistake your wishes with everyones wishes. I like small sets like the Jetboil too and small single burners but there are enough small families that use these kind of sets. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Where did you get the foldable piece of aluminium from? :-)
Hi Christina, It is a part of a MSR stove. Take a peek here www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/stove-accessories/solid-heat-reflector-with-windscreen/11812.html Cheers, Gijs
thank you!! :-)
Take hot water in a thermos cut down boiling time.
Hi Robert, And where do I get the hot water from....right from the same PrimeTech. Unless when I travel from home. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews like I said from the thermos you had, you could have put hot water in it, but then you also said it was quick to boil water, contradiction 🤔
Not fuel efficient, seriously you should have lit it before you put the pot on 🤔
Hi Robert, That could be a debate 😉 but I am used the the way better previous model with fixed piezo and that one is easy to lit with the pot on. And... even with the pot of the PrimeTech is not a joy too lit. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews the instructions say light it before you put the pot on, no debate me thinks 🤔
@@Dogsoldier59 Not with you, with Primus. The Piezo lighter - at least the one I had - is not that good. I noticed it with the Primus Firestick too. The fixed one works already for 7 years or more without any problems.
If you can't wait 1 minute for warm water, 3min 40sec rather than 2min 40sec then you shouldn't even be out camping, hiking or whatever.:P
Dear Puro, please explain a bit more since I don't get you comment. I got all the time in the world and prefer cooking on a campfire so time is not an issue. Time and fuel efficiency in gas or petrol burners is too many people who camp an issue. Is that what you mean? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
Not a fan of this system. Go Trangia all day long.
The old one was fine, but I like the Trangia too! Cheers, Gijs
Its pronounced "primetek" not "primetehhh"
What's in a name Cleankiller 😉. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
For an outdoor guru, you’re not very good at lighting stoves😆😆😆
Is it me or the Piezo... I know the answer ;-) Enjoy the outdoors! Cheers, Gijs
You should not have the pots on the stove while igniting. That is your problem.
Ignite first then place the pot on.
What happens when you try to ignite the fuel with the pot on is that the fuel gas gets trapped under the pot and mixes with air.
The resulting mix or concentration of fuel and air produces a mix that contains too much fuel for ignition.
For butane, if the concentration is over (if I remember correctly) 8-9% then it simply will not ignite. That’s why it’s not igniting with the pot on!
The manual also states that the pots should be placed on the stove after igniting it.
Great review.
Thank you!