Re-cocking an Unmounted Hasselblad Lens
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This video goes over the operation of a Hasselblad central shutter (the one in the lens), and how to re-cock it should that become necessary while the lens is unmounted.
Hahaha
I used an old tool from my pocket on my 180mm T*
A 1971 $0.10 piece.
But you got to make sure it's the one with Roosevelt otherwise it won't work.
Ennit
The Hasselblad has what is known as an "automatic" lens aperture. this means that it only closes down when the shutter is open. That allows you to focus and compose with the lens wide open so more light is available.
Try this: set your aperture on something other than wide open. Set your shutter speed to something slow. Look into the lens from the front and fire the shutter. If the aperture closes and opens back up, you're fine. See my eBay vid of the 120 S-Planar for an example.
There is an alternative way to do it if you don't have the right tools. Use a triangle shaped paper clip and turn it to the right direction. It will do the job well.
Thanks for this. It scared the crap out of me before I found your solution.
Thank you! I had no idea why my Planar shots were all nice and my Sonnar shots were completely blank. Guessing it is out of synch with body.
An easy way to recock the shutter is to place the lens face down on a sheet of paper on a desk. Insert a penny into the slot and hold the penny steady while you rotate the lens one turn counter-clockwise until the shaft locks.
Thanks! A lifesaver video. I was worried I'd ruined the lens but this fixed it
@The1970sInfatuate No, I don't have any TLRs. Would like to have a Rollei, but not enough to spend the money on it. Would probably have to sell another of my cameras to get one, and I'm not quite ready to do that.
Well I just solved this problem of lens not cocked.........whent to shoot no workyyy...came home took the lens of, cocked now everything is good. Thank You for the hot tip..
Hmmm. First thing to check is that you're not at the last frame of the back. It will stop you from winding/shooting at the last frame, whether you have film in or not. If there's no film in the camera, just pull out the back's insert, and re-insert it, and you should be able to wind/fire the shutter again.
If that's not it, you probably should take it to a shop.
Thanks for the solution. This really helped to resolve the issue and save the lens.
I have another video all about Hasselblad V lens designations. But basically, your camera will work fine with C, CF, CFi, etc. No 'F' lenses, though.
@pdexposures I got my M2 for $500 at the local camera store's used dept. a couple years ago. They've had Hassies in there for $650-750 (admittedly older, slightly ugly, ones with the 80mm 'C' lens). However, I think I got an especially good deal on the M2.
I just bought a lens and it arrived today. It was getting frustrating but thank goodness for this video! Thanks so much!!
can you give specific name for the screwdriver or tool for the lens :) ?
i want to buy it also :)
Great job; watched several videos and learned a lot. Thanks
Thank you for this video! I recently acquired a Hasselblad and thought I managed to break it, but thankfully all I needed to do was re-cock the lens!
I believe mine is the Fotodiox one available on eBay.
@mathomas1962 The Rolleicord cameras don't seem to be all that bad. I'd say the most expensive Rolleiflex models are the ones with f2.8 lenses.
Great video
Hi Mike, I hv a situation that my 80mm T* lens not cocking. When I wind it manually like you showed the aperture blades open but as soon as I release the blades bounce back to the original status. Do you know what might be wrong inside the lens?
Sorry for the late reply. It sounds to me like it’s possible the lens might need professional service. Sorry.
Thanks big mike! Just the vid I was lookin for!!
when i twist the screw on the back of the lens it just fires the lens shutter. the pressure builds then jsut as the shutter opens the pressure releases and the lens shutter fires. any suggestions? this all started when I removed an extension tube from the lens. Please reply if you get a chance i'm stuck.
thanks - when I try though the screw doesn't cock, it just flicks straight back to the start? any thoughts?
this also happens to me. have you fixed it?
I have a hasselblad 500cm with a CF 80mm lens and my aperture doesn't change from f8-f22. The blades stay in the same place unless I'm pressing down the depth of field button. Is that normal? When I took the lens off, it was able to change without any problem, but when I put it back on, the problem continued. Please tell me what's going on.
Hey can you give some tips for a jammed body please? Mine is, and i have no clue how to fix it
Hello Mike,discovering my hasselblad 503 cx i did a mistake with a lens cf 100mm 3.5 , i setted this on f mode and shutted, now the lens is stucked with the aperture open, researching on the manual it say that produce a error on models are not 2000 series, This method descrived here can works? i dont have the same tool you used i just have a screwdriver
Thanks you.
Hmm, I'm not familiar with that issue. So, the lock button won't push down and let you get out of 'F' mode? Have you read of the fix for that?
for the 2000fc , if the mirror locked up and shutter locked , how to release ???
I suspect it doesn't matter at all. I have never read or heard anything specific to aperture setting and storage for any lens. I don't think I've ever seen a lens with an aperture lock, either. I've seen lenses with infinity locks, though. I'm very curious -- what lenses of yours have this feature?
Do you have any twin lens reflex cameras? These Hasselblad cameras are a bit too complex for my usages.
Thank you! I used a quarter instead and that worked fine.
But it’s too late to use the quarter because it can’t be opened anymore!
Thank you!!!
Did the job, thanks
Hi, Mike
Im having a similar problem. I took the back of my hasselblad off, so i can see thru the curtains whats going on. What i see is very interesting, i press the shutter, with shutter speed set to lets say, 1 sec, so i can cleary see the diaphragm working accordingly and it does. Then i wind the crack, everything is set. I press the shutter but it doenst open! THe blades remais closed, so i have to take the lens off, do exactly what you did on your video, then attach the lens on the body, press the shutter and bingo! it works! But if i wind the crank and press the shutter again, its stuck! What should i do??
Sounds like the shutter winding mechanism isn't doing its job. You should be able to see the cocking mechanism work if you take the lens off and shoot a frame and wind, while looking at the mechanism in the body. It's also possible that the cocking part isn't mating properly with the lens, so see if there is any damage to that. Sadly, it sounds like it's going to have to head in for repair, if I were to take a guess.
Very informative video. many thanks !!!!!
How do you leave the shutter open if you are using the lens with an adapter on Nikon/Canon DSLR, especially the older C only lenses ?
I saw in your other video that the CF lenses have a shutter lock F button.
+Jay John I have yet to adapt a Hasselblad lens to my Sony, but I assume the shutter will just stay open regardless. It's open when the lens it taken off the camera. The Hasselblad is an SLR system, so the shutter has to be open to focus and compose, at least when the film is wound and the mirror dropped. Recall that a Hasselblad has an auxiliary shutter in front of the film plane, so it's OK for the lens' shutter to stay open.
I'm no expert on the deeper mechanical things WRT Hassies, but this doesn't sound good. Regarding the extension tube, I believe you are supposed to mount the tube to the body and the lens to the tube, then reverse that to unmount. I suppose the wrong order could have caused the issue, but perhaps the issue caused you to have to unmount things in the wrong order (?).
My guess is you'll need to send it in for service. :-\
Can anyone please let me know how to remove the lens if I accidentally manage to put in my lens into my 500CM Hasselbard?
I cannot remove the lens anymore..it’s jammed and no photos can be taken...please help!
Thanks...
Your 2000Fc looks great
Thanks for one more useful video.
Do you find the "tool" (you have in your hands and used to cock the lens) really useful or a "must-have"? I guess the lens is easy to cock with anything else but the other side of the tool (for inside the camera) it is really useful? Or when the need to use it arises it is better to send it to a tech?
Definitely a nice-to-have rather than a must-have. I've fortunately never had to do anything inside a body yet, so I'd probably use the opportunity to get a CLA if something did happen (so I'd send it to David Odess, for example, if he's still in business).
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The aperture lock is to help in enabling the Tv auto-exposure mode in cameras that offer it (and prevent the lens slipping out of the that mode).
You sir just made my day better!! :-)
I used a normal screw driver tho. Why not?
It's no problem. The tool I used is just a little more directly suited to the task because it locks onto the shutter cocking mechanism. Anything that gets the shutter cocked is fine though.
How did you trip the shutter when the lens was off of the camera?
Mackenzie Morshead I show it at 1:30 in the video.
Great video!
All these hassey videos are making me jealous :)
@mathomas1962 Haha not sure how much you think I paid for the M6, but I can tell you it was a little over the cost of a 500cm kit. Where that M2 fits in I have no idea! haha
Thank you so much for your help!
so I'm having a problem where it wont latch when I twist it and open up the aperture. As soon as I take out my screwdriver it spins back around to its original position. It will mount to the body if the body is cocked but you cant shoot as the lens is not cocked. not quire sure how to resolve this problem. If you have any ideas I would love to hear them.
Sorry, I can't be of much help on this one. It sounds like the shutter mechanism might need service. Just a guess based on your description.
Same problem, did you resolve it?
Nope, took the whole thing apart and couldn't quite figure it out but i was able to trick it by half mounting part of the lens cocked and then attaching the rest but it was very precarious and i would not recommend it
+Uksternikolai sucks, was hoping for a solution, couldntbfind one online..just a few people with the same issue.
I would venture to guess that you didn't turn the screw far enough. You need a considerable amount of force to bring that screw around to where it will latch. If you really think you've turned it far enough and it doesn't catch, then behind the wall that contains that screw is a latching mechanism that probably popped its spring for hold it in place. You would have to open it up further to see this as it's difficult to explain w/o a more precise video. Good luck.
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Hello Sir Mike! My uncle just handed down his Hasselblad 2000CFW, similar to your camera.
Anyway, i don't see any reason for the lens to be broken but when i try to adjust the aperture ring, the blades doesn't change at all...
+latenightclouds The aperture doesn't close down until the shutter is open. This keeps the view bright while you are framing and focusing. Try setting the lens to a small aperture, and fire the shutter while looking into the lens from the front. The aperture should close down just while the shutter is open, then spring back to full aperture again when the shutter closes.
So you're saying that you can't really tell the image you'll be getting at f22 or f2.8?
Because as I look in to the viewfinder, i tried to rotate the aperture ring from f2.8 to f22. There are no differences at all..
latenightclouds You can use the depth-of-field preview slide-button thing on the lens to see the effect of your aperture setting.
So i was right? That you won't see the changes or effect until you use the depth of field preview slide button
Sir, I also have tons of filters, and I don't know what are their uses. May i send you the pics?
+latenightclouds Yes. This is the principle of an automatic" lens -- the aperture closes down just while the shutter is open. This allows you a nice bright view in the VF while focusing and composing.
Omg I think I made the biggest mistake, I twist it the wrong direction I think I fuckec myself up now, it won’t lock
Be sure you're turning it far enough. Failing that, it sounds like you may have a problem with your lens :-\.
Where do you get that tool?
I got it off eBay. I think it's a Fotodiox product, but not sure. Just do a search there.
for some reason I can't remove my lens. do you have any suggestion?
If you cannot remove the lens, it is likely becuase you have not cocked the shutter. The body won't let you remove an uncocked lens.
yeah I figured it out at some point. thanks anyway.
great tip, thanks.
Thanks a lot
Glad I could help :-)
You sir SAVED MY ASS!!!
Hi just wondering if you could link where you bought the tool from? Thanks
+Elke Holiastos
Here is an example:
tinyurl.com/obtjvda
I have no relation with, or opinion on, the seller.
+Mike Thomas Thanks!
Grazie!!! Bravo!!!!1
@The1970sInfatuate Ahh, but the f/2.8 is what I'd want ;-).
Sell the M6 and get a Hassy kit + M2 with the proceeds. Problem solved. :-D.
THANK YOUUUU
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Just use a penny
Elderin Moi yes that seems much cheaper! But who carries change??? 🤷♂️🤣
I've tried everything to try to unlock this piece of utter scrap! The screw on the lens and on the body are in the same positions but they don't match up when I try to mount the lens. the pin on the lens doesn't fire the shutter either. You shouldn't have to watch several different combinations of moves/sequences just to make sure your camera doesn't lock up. It's an over hyped, over priced piece of crap very badly designed. The lens is over complicated with 4 little metal levers on it. I sold the back I used to have so I only have the body, waist level finder and lens. Next time I go to the recycling yard, it is going straight into the landfill dumpster.
Bummer. When you have trouble, Hassies definitely seem over-complicated, and the required habits to avoid trouble are a pain to create. But for me the results are worth it. If you can upload a well-lit video maybe someone can help diagnose, but if the lens won't fire off the camera, then it's probably the culprit (?).
Mike Thomas I've decided to :
1. Calm down, LOL.
2. Give what's left of the camera to the cancer research charity shop (maybe someone can use it. and it's better than being scrapped).
3. Get a rangefinder camera.
Do you still have that camera? I’d be glad to take it off your abusive hands...
Wow! That's just simply amazing. You figured out how to turn a screw with a fancy screwdriver. How did you ever figure out which way to turn it? Oh that's right...there was a directional arrow there! How profound!
Did someone piss in your Cheerios? Go up there right now, and click on the little thumbs-down icon, and join the other < 3% that didn't find the video helpful. I actually appreciate the helpful information you left for one of the other commenters here, but I don't really appreciate your comment to me, so after you've left your thumbs-down you can just avoid any of my videos in the future. We'll both be happier, believe me.
This was helpful & you (Richard) being rude about it accomplishes nothing but making you come across like a jerk. Go do something positive...Thanks Mike.
I know it's a 3 minute video about turning a screw, but this was exactly what I needed - a detailed description of the problem and solution. Thanks, Mike!
I see now that no one can take any kind of ribbing any more. I guess I'm just from the wrong part of the country. The same place as Trump. The only reason I put in this criticism of this procedure because I thought that it was unbelievably simple to see that when you disconnected your lens from the body, that it the screw sitting there right in front of you was so obvious, you'd have to be an idiot not to think that that was what was keeping the linkage from reconnecting. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings but it's starting to look to me like no one uses their heads anymore. Oh well, sorry again.
I chuckled at your comment, Richard, as I too found the obviousness hilarious. I just meant to tell Mike that his video was helpful, regardless of this. I had detached the lens from a macro ring in the wrong order causing the shutter to fire on its own (even though I knew this), so I needed a detailed walkthrough to keep my dense mind from causing any more trouble. I've had my Hasselblad for 3 years, even used it in Greenland's frosty (down to -37 C) polar nights, and this is the only 'problem' I've had with it. And all I needed to fix it was a screwdriver, haha!
Thanks so much!