One of the most tragic yet powerful Jocko podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Holy smokes! May your son rest in peace, Frank. Keep pressing on! My sincere thoughts and prayers with you and your family.
praying that Ryan is honored so much more in the future, true hero and his father is one too as well as an amazing patriot that I will be teaching my children about them both! ❤❤❤
Having survived a TBI from 16 years ago, i can relate to a lot of this story. Thank you, Sirs, for this amazing podcast. I would love to get involved and help others who are struggling with anything in life. God Bless!
Concussions are…. Hard. And the more you have, the worse they stack. I’ve been recovering ALL YEAR from a bad one… and people look at me like I’m crazy when I describe what I’m going through this one was very valuable.
They need Jesus Christ, not people and yes it’s nice to have someone for positive reasons and not negative reasons. But I refuse to be someone for a “fake love” idiot. They can go rot somewhere, I’m not here to save or help some damn corrupt evil inconsiderate soul. I might try to change you and that’s about it, after you snap away from your demons, you go on your way.
@@nv_chino Christ was also big on community, granted there are good and bad communities and the former can be hard to find today, but they are our there.
My mans is a movie character. Navy SEAL, cop, Narcotics, Homicide and I'm only like 40 min in. That's awesome. The beginning had me tearing up on my drive home though. Respect
@Jocko- During a podcast in the past you talked about being in Afghanistan or Pakistan (can't remember which) and how the everyday people generally just want a sense of peace, safety, and provision and how they helped at times when they could. That really rang true to me in my deployments as a Seabee. I found it consistent with my experience to be similar to what you experienced. If at all possible and you get a chance it might be beneficial to re emphasis that it in a general sense in light of some of the things that are occurring currently. There are good AND bad people in every race, color and greed. Keep up the good work.
00:29 🧠 Exposure to blast waves during combat tours caused microscopic brain tears undetectable by MRIs or PET scans. 01:38 🛌 Returning home, Ryan Larkin showed symptoms of PTSD like sleep issues, nightmares, and irritability, leading to a decline in relationships. 02:47 💊 Over 40 medications prescribed to Ryan worsened his condition, leading to feelings of being mentally unstable and operationally unfit. 04:46 🎖 Despite being a legacy SEAL with a father in the Navy, Ryan Larkin faced severe mental health struggles after multiple tours. 05:02 🧠 Posthumous brain study revealed Ryan's severe brain injury linked uniquely to blast exposure, affirming his prior concerns. 06:54 🌊 The Navy SEALs' culture experienced changes over time, impacting the experiences and challenges faced by newer members. 13:06 🎖 Frank Larkin's experiences in the Navy and SEAL Teams during the '70s/'80s differed significantly from his son Ryan's time in the SEALs. 17:25 🌊 The culture and dynamics within the SEAL Teams evolved over the years, impacting the leadership styles and experiences of members. 19:20 💪 Mentions of remarkable leaders like Marcinko and experiences shaping Frank Larkin's perspective on leadership and camaraderie in the SEALs. 21:40 🌍 Historical and geopolitical changes influenced the nature of warfare and the challenges faced by military units like the SEALs. 23:32 🏙 Frank Larkin recounts his experiences operating in unique and tense environments like Berlin during the Cold War, showcasing the varied terrains the SEALs navigated. 24:13 🛠 The downsizing of the Navy post-Vietnam led to some SEALs being sent to the fleet after making it through SEAL Team training. 25:23 📘 Relationships between Naval Special Warfare and the larger Navy have been strained at times, but when it works well, it's incredible. 26:01 🚢 Shortages were common in the 70s, impacting Navy resources from ships to operational planes. 27:10 🛏 The gear quality and availability contrast between the past and present military equipment is substantial. 28:18 🌍 International tensions rose in the 70s, especially with terrorism, Cuban infiltration, and activity in Africa. 31:57👮 Building trust and rapport with the community was essential during service as a police officer, emphasizing compassion and empathy. 34:43 🧩 The experience as a homicide detective raised doubts about the accuracy of reported veteran suicide numbers due to classification complexities. 39:36 🔍 Working in homicide varied in intensity, sometimes handling multiple cases simultaneously, affecting personal life and relationships. 45:12 💔 Cases involving child abuse resulting in murder highlighted the dire consequences of unprepared or abusive parenting situations. 46:44 🚔 Law enforcement encounters emotionally taxing situations, requiring restraint despite the urge for immediate justice. 49:03 💵 Secret Service primarily deals with protecting the monetary system through investigations into counterfeiting and fraud. 51:29 🚨 Engaged in Secret Service during Reagan and Bush administrations; witnessed historical events, such as 9/11. 59:52 💥 Traveled to conflict zones in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Rwanda, and Burundi for diplomatic missions amidst severe violence. 01:05:38 🌆 Stationed in New York as a Secret Service senior supervisor during 9/11, narrowly escaping the Twin Towers attack. 01:08:19 🏙 The speaker recounts the events of 9/11, evacuating Tower 7 adjacent to Tower 1, observing the fire in Tower 1, and encountering a person who had jumped from the building. 01:11:16 🚨 Chaos ensues post-first impact, with uncertainty about what had occurred, followed by the second plane hitting Tower 2, causing debris to rain down. 01:13:20 🔥 Amid the chaos, the speaker assists police and fire commands, witnesses the collapse warning, takes cover, and experiences the collapse of the buildings at Ground Zero. 01:17:31 🚒 Assisting in firefighting efforts, aiding injured individuals, and commandeering an ambulance to transport those in criticalcondition to safety. 01:21:50 🌐 The speaker reunites with family after being reported missing, recounting the impact of the day on his family members who witnessed the events unfold through media or nearby locations. 01:25:41 👤 Briefing President Bush on the situation, the speaker continues his work at Ground Zero, experiencing the transition from rescue to recovery operations. 01:27:07 🏗 Taking his son to Ground Zero to help him understand the event, describing the extensive destruction and the shift from rescue to recovery operations. 01:28:03 🏢 Transitioning back to White House security operations, the speaker's family relocates while his son finishes high school, works in diving salvage, and gains employment at a restaurant. 01:30:04 🌊 Frank Larkin recounts the moment when his son decided to enlist in the Navy and volunteer for the SEAL program, despite not fully comprehending the weight of his decision. 01:31:39 🌟 Many individuals joined the military after 9/11 with the resolve to be part of the solution and prevent such events from happening again. 01:33:29 💡 Frank Larkin's involvement in the defense sector after retiring from the Secret Service led him to work extensively on countering IEDs, a major threat in conflicts, through the Gedo organization. 01:41:30 🩹 Frank Larkin's son endured SEAL training with a stress fracture in his leg, eventually leading to a broken back during Hell Week, demonstrating remarkable resilience. 01:48:06 📈 Frank Larkin's approach to support units involved sending personnel forward to the battlefield, maintaining relationships, and extracting lessons learned to enhance operational effectiveness. 01:51:55 🤯 His son's experiences in a high-intensity deployment with a tier one task force in Iraq led to confronting intense situations that could contribute to moral injury and mental challenges. 01:52:36 🛌 Changes in behavior: Ryan Larkin's return from deployment marked a significant shift in behavior, showing signs of sleep issues, nightmares, anxiety, and increased irritability. 01:53:56 🚁 Helicopter challenges: Ryan faced high altitude sickness, multiple helicopter issues, including unnerving near-crashes, impacting his mental state and comfort with aviation. 01:58:16 🤔 Coping strategies: Juggling the unpredictability of military service, focusing on what one can control, and managing mental stress by redirecting thoughts and concentrating on the task at hand.
02:04:28 🛌 Escalating issues: Ryan's sleep deprivation, increased alcohol consumption, physical pain, and haunting memories of past events highlighted his struggle with mental health. 02:07:38 🏡 Comfort in deployment: Ryan felt more at ease in the deployment zone than back home, finding it difficult to reconcile civilian life's perceived triviality with the intensity of his experiences. 02:09:24 💥 Intense training: Ryan's role in intense urban combat training exposed him repeatedly to concussive forces, adding to the cumulative stress and physical toll he endured. 02:12:26 🚨 Medical intervention: Despite seeking medical help for sleep and anxiety issues, prescribed medication exacerbated his condition, leading to incidents that raised concerns about his well-being. 02:14:55 🧠 Behavioral patterns in SEAL Teams, like drinking or acting recklessly, often perceived as normal due to high-risk job nature. 02:16:59 🔄 Transition from wild behavior to more responsible life, often happening as SEALs get older, get married, and have kids. 02:18:38 🏠 Returning to a "normal" environment after combat isn't straightforward; societal expectations clash with the realities of veterans' experiences. 02:21:34 🧑⚕ Challenges in understanding combat-related injuries: individual differences in reactions to blast injuries complicate diagnosis and treatment. 02:27:52 🤕 Identifying cognitive, hormonal, and physiological changes in veterans remains challenging due to varying individual responses. 02:30:51 🌐 Lack of progress in understanding battlefield conditions results in various names for combat-related conditions without significant advancements in comprehension. 02:31:45 💊 Overreliance on psychiatric diagnoses often leads to prolonged medication use without addressing the underlying issues. 02:34:18 🛌 Challenges veterans face: sleep issues, substance abuse, and treatment programs' limitations in understanding their unique situations. 02:35:35 🚫 Substance abuse programs often have strict rules without accommodating relapses or understanding underlying causes, impacting veterans' recovery journey. 02:36:45 🍹 Ryan Larkin faced medical issues while in the Navy, leading to distrust in the system's handling of his case, despite wanting to stay in service. 02:37:54 🧠 Larkin, facing physical and mental challenges, grew distrustful of the medical system, feeling his information was weaponized against him. 02:39:27 🤝 Larkin felt betrayed by the community and disheartened as he couldn't perform his duties, leading to increased stress. 02:40:31 💊 Medication issues arose as Larkin was put on opioids, worsening his condition, leading to distrust in the medical system's decisions. 02:42:47 🛑 Larkin, facing a Captain's Mast due to cannabis use, decided to leave the Navy to prevent further harm. 02:43:29 🤔 Some command personalities prioritized expelling problematic cases, influencing Larkin's fate, despite support from his peers. 02:46:29 🏥 Larkin's mental health evaluation led to confinement, causing him distress and isolation, while his command appeared more focused on a case against him. 02:48:36 ⚖ Medical commands seemed more interested in building a case against Larkin than genuinely helping him, creating ethical conflicts among clinicians. 02:50:24 😔 Larkin's discharge, under questionable circumstances, left emotional scars, impacting his family, and elicited empathy from personnel executing the discharge. 02:51:48 📉 Institutional betrayal was felt as Larkin was ostracized, leading to a loss of identity and disheartening treatment from former comrades. 02:52:18 🚫 A bolo (be on the lookout) poster issued against Larkin showcased unprofessionalism and further added to his sense of betrayal. 02:56:08 🤝 Separation from military service, especially in tight-knit units like the Navy SEALs, presents a critical period, influencing one's mental health trajectory. 03:00:14 📅 Larkin's discharge in February 2016 marked a critical point in his mental health journey, leading to subsequent hospital admissions and struggles. 03:01:34 🧠 Ryan Larkin, a former Navy SEAL, struggled with mental health issues after his service, facing anger outbursts, emotional detachment, and difficulty navigating daily life. 03:02:43 🧮 Despite pursuing education and showing intellectual prowess, Ryan's stress coping mechanism involved doing math problems but was still unable to manage daily activities. 03:03:52 🏥 Ryan sought help at the VA, but the bureaucratic complexity hindered his access to adequate care, even with family members having medical backgrounds. 03:05:25 🗣 Ryan expressed to his father his feelings of something being wrong with his head, which was dismissed, ultimately leading to tragic consequences. 03:06:24 💔 Ryan's family honored his wish to donate his brain for research, revealing severe microscopic brain injuries related to blast exposure. 03:11:23 🧪 Research indicates a biological connection between blast exposure and brain injuries, often termed "invisible wounds," affecting many veterans. 03:14:07 🧠 Exposure to blast overpressure may cause circuitry damage in the brain, leading to complications and various reactions in individuals. 03:17:36 🛡 Understanding brain health doesn't compromise military effectiveness but aids in reducing risks and enhancing the resilience of the armed forces. 03:18:01 🧑⚕ Veterans returning from service often face judgmental attitudes, internal conflict, and challenges seeking help, contributing to substance use disorders. 03:19:27 🔒 Resistance to acknowledging brain health issues stems from discomfort, fear, and a lack of prioritization, affecting military personnel and recruitment. 03:25:20 🤔 Leaders often misinterpret behavioral changes in their team as disciplinary issues rather than potential health problems arising from the impact of experiences. 03:26:28 ⚖ Distinguishing between health issues and disciplinary problems is crucial; disciplinary actions might not solve underlying health-related concerns. 03:27:36 🛑 The SEAL community primarily responds to trouble by discipline, but the recognition is growing that persistent issues may indicate health concerns like alcoholism, drug problems, PTSD, or TBI. 03:28:59 🕵♂ Identifying genuine health issues amidst claims of PTSD gaming is vital; genuine cases get hindered by those exploiting the system. 03:30:35 🌐 Different individuals react uniquely to trauma, affecting them to varying extents, as seen historically in wars like WWII, Vietnam, and Korea, emphasizing the importance of recognizing individual resilience levels. 03:32:00 🚗 Timely intervention is crucial; analogous to servicing a car upon seeing the 'check engine' light to prevent complete breakdown, addressing issues in individuals before they reach a breaking point is essential. 03:34:57 🧠 Efforts to develop diagnostics for brain trauma and PTSD aim to revolutionize how behavioral issues are addressed, potentially providing insights into health issues in real-time rather than postmortem. 03:37:13 🤝 Comprehensive education and information sharing across leadership levels are crucial to understanding the impact of combat trauma and the necessity for tailored, individual treatment and recovery paths. 03:40:10 🛠 The initiative to understand the effects of modern warfare on military personnel extends beyond SEALs, encompassing various military units worldwide, necessitating a collaborative, global approach. 03:41:57 🌟 Retaining and accommodating individuals within the community despite injuries or limitations is crucial, ensuring their continued value within the team and acknowledging their past contributions. 03:44:42 🔄 Lack of understanding, coupled with personality-based biases, can lead to inadvertent neglect of individuals facing health issues, emphasizing the importance of awareness and informed leadership in handling such cases. 03:46:04 🔍 Current leadership practices sometimes prioritize legal clearance over making decisive, empathetic decisions, potentially compromising the distinctiveness and effectiveness of military units. 03:46:18 🎖 Leaders should empower individuals to adjust immediately to conditions, but excessive risk aversion is paralyzing progress in decision-making. 03:47:00 🌟 Leadership involves accountability, courage to make decisions, and accepting consequences, especially in high-stakes situations. 03:48:12 🤝 Decentralized command in combat leadership allows subordinates to lead, but it requires trust, acceptance of risk, and the willingness to take responsibility for outcomes. 03:49:23 🤲 Warrior Call is a grassroots effort to combat isolation among veterans and first responders, aiming to prevent suicides by offering support and connection. 03:53:29 🇺🇸 National Warrior Call Day seeks to encourage people to reach out to veterans or active-duty personnel, fostering connections and providing hope through simple conversations. 03:56:01 🧠 The effects of blast wave propagation on the brain are a growing concern, impacting executive functions and causing visual trauma, potentially leading to changes in behavior.
04:00:08 🚩 Maintaining focus and vigilance as a nation is crucial; distraction and dysfunction may lead to vulnerability if attention drifts from key matters affecting society's stability. 04:06:07 💡 Leadership lessons stem from both positive and negative experiences, emphasizing the importance of learning from poor leadership examples. 04:07:31 🎗 Honoring service and learning from loss, especially in tragic situations, is crucial to supporting and understanding the struggles faced by veterans and their families. 04:09:29 🧠 Mitigating the effects of brain and moral injuries among service members is crucial, emphasizing the importance of reaching out and supporting those veering off the right path. 04:11:29 🚑 Efforts within the SEAL Teams to address traumatic injuries have led to progress and ongoing studies, highlighting the importance of acknowledging and rectifying mistakes for the benefit of current and future members. 04:12:12 💔 Tragic stories like Ryan's shouldn't be in vain; efforts to spread awareness and lessons learned from such stories can help prevent similar incidents in the future. 04:15:11 ⚡ Understanding the interconnectedness of various bodily systems and how nutrition affects sleep and energy levels is vital for overall health and performance. 04:17:30 🥤 Differentiating between conventional energy drinks and Jocko Fuel, emphasizing the latter's use of clean ingredients for health and energy. 04:19:49 👕 Origin USA offers American-made clothing, highlighting the importance of supporting locally produced goods. 04:22:57 🥩 Promoting the consumption of quality steak for its health benefits and encouraging subscriptions to various channels and platforms for learning and engagement. 04:24:22 🏋♂ The importance of leadership in problem-solving, with available resources and organizations dedicated to teaching leadership skills for personal and professional growth.
This sort of fortitude and capacity is impressive. Thankfully there are private agencies that offer some of these training to civilians...seems quite important.
The retinas are direct line to the brain. That would definitely affect the brain directly. In fact my brain is being treated directly through the eyes by way of light access to those retinas and nerves. Yes damage happens through the eyes. And damage to the optic nerve will directly affect your brain.
This why I came to the comments. Does anybody have a rough count? Lol No disrespect to this badass or his badass son. My add mind just got fixated on the you knows, you know?
Beginning this video makes me wanna cry, ik I'm not the same since head traumas in sports and life.. also got overdosed because doctors made mistakes in the hospital.. my personality will never be the same and no test or anyone/myself can see what it truly means for the outcome.. but Ik I'm not the same. Thank God for my natural abilities and a relationship with God because I'll tell you.. you have no clue till you're chemically) physically damaged in the brain. It's almost like having a mental illness that isn't natural and isn't really anyone's fault. You're lucky if you're cognisant of it
I feel you man, I was given adderal and other amphetamine salts when I was a kid. Doctors said I had adhd. Skip foward to adulthood, I knew i didn't have a problem focusing. I had a hunch and got retested. Definetly didn't have adhd as I scored higher than most people in attention span. I have never felt normal and always stress over life. I wish I could get my childhood back. Stay strong with God and never give up. Nice to know there are others fighting the same fight.
Hang in there sir. I have made it 30 years and things will slowly get better a little bit every year that will eventually add up to noticeable improvement. The brain does repair itself to some extent and will try to bypass the other parts, this can actually be part of the problem. Now that they are finding certain drugs can help try to reset the amygdala out of fight or flight, this sounds like a promising way to speed the process up and prevent some of the harmful rewiring, especially if done early on. Just looking into this myself though as sadly most doctors and even many specialists are still uninformed when it comes to serious and/or repeated head injuries. Not trying to preach, just trying to offer hope and say you are not alone. Stay sane, as much as anyone can be ; ), and best wishes! P.S. There was a decent book I found a while ago, think the title, sub title?, was The Brain That Changes Itself. It covers the mechanisms of how the brain repairs itself and compensates for damage, with some case studies of how to help it for various situations.
Evening sir. I've found it difficult to reach out and get in contact with you, I have a story I'd like to keep brief about my alcoholic mother and my father of dishonourable discharge and a life I've lived and the past 5 years have been hell. I'm not exactly sure how I'd be able to converse with you sir. But it would be a pleasure. Many thanks. Lex Serpentem.
I'm sorry this is the first Jocko podcast I just can't listen to I made it 31 minutes into the broadcast but this guy just says you know 3 times every sentence and it just got so annoying that I can't listen anymore
Tough conversation on topic but great for awareness. "Compassionate Leadership"; thank you Frank and your son for walking the line. Vet to Vet. Best Jocko this holiday season.
I worked with Wounded Warriors for a few years. I saw how much our soldiers sacrifice...not just their bodies, time, lives...but their mental health as well. A lot of them benefited from things like mindfulness. If anyone out there needs it, there's a small book called 30 Days to Reduce Depression by Harper Daniels that has simple mindfulness exercises we would use. What our soldiers go through is beyond mentally taxing, let's honor them.
This does remind me of the person who would go out and see how close C4 goes off that will knock you out and not kill you…. He C4’d himself multiple times… Who was that?
Holy crap, I grew up in Norristown and it's only gotten worse the last time I was there. The PD has become more distant. Thank you Mr. Larkin and your son for your efforts in trying to build and protect the community, as well as military service. Even if it was before I was born. May your son's soul rest in peace.
I treat a lot of these patients that have had TBI induced IED concussion injuries. It’s a mess and the VA has not done simple bloodwork for Testosterone. This is commonly low and proper management is quite helpful - and then it allows stabilizing of other hormones. Then you can treat the neurotransmitters more effectively. This can result in lower doses of medication or complete removal. Testosterone replacement is not the end I’ll be all, but it can be quite helpful for individuals who have PTSD and IED induced concussive head injuries. These soldiers had all the drive and motivation prior to their injuries- and then they were told basically to just “suck it up”. That’s not the way to go about this. They can’t be taught to be a warrior and then not trained to handle what happened to their life after combat. We need to not only thank our soldiers but also protect them (and their families).
i really believe the dod needs to sign off on alot of funds to discover a system to monitor our service members so they dont reach a breaking point and keep them healthy,this is in the best interest of keeping our forces 100percent but mainly these men deserve every thing we can give them to take care of these heros.
2:38:00 I took AMBIEN for sleep after a drowning incident that put me on a DIALYSIS MACHINE. Crazy thing is after taking it , I felt like I just drank 10 pots of coffee , my heart was racing out of my chest. And within seconds multiple nurses and Doctors were in my ICU hospital room.
One of the most tragic yet powerful Jocko podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Holy smokes! May your son rest in peace, Frank. Keep pressing on! My sincere thoughts and prayers with you and your family.
The amount of composure and strength he has to talk about this situation is mind blowing. God bless him and his family. Thank you for your service!
praying that Ryan is honored so much more in the future, true hero and his father is one too as well as an amazing patriot that I will be teaching my children about them both! ❤❤❤
Jocko, your content is a #buddycheck for all of us. Thank you. 🙏
Qudos to Jocko and his guest for bringing all this to light. I'm certain that it will help to improve things for others in the future.
Having survived a TBI from 16 years ago, i can relate to a lot of this story. Thank you, Sirs, for this amazing podcast. I would love to get involved and help others who are struggling with anything in life. God Bless!
Concussions are…. Hard. And the more you have, the worse they stack.
I’ve been recovering ALL YEAR from a bad one… and people look at me like I’m crazy when I describe what I’m going through this one was very valuable.
The Forest needs People again, too!
The work is actually therapeutic, instantly gratifying, and won't even F you up mentally!
🙌🌲💫
Please reach out!
People need people, ain’t that the truth.
They need Jesus Christ, not people and yes it’s nice to have someone for positive reasons and not negative reasons. But I refuse to be someone for a “fake love” idiot. They can go rot somewhere, I’m not here to save or help some damn corrupt evil inconsiderate soul. I might try to change you and that’s about it, after you snap away from your demons, you go on your way.
@@nv_chino Christ was also big on community, granted there are good and bad communities and the former can be hard to find today, but they are our there.
@@nv_chinoyou should never change anyone lol.
Tears in my eyes, such a sad story to hear this father speak of what happend to his son.
Reaching out works both ways.
My mans is a movie character. Navy SEAL, cop, Narcotics, Homicide and I'm only like 40 min in. That's awesome. The beginning had me tearing up on my drive home though. Respect
@Jocko- During a podcast in the past you talked about being in Afghanistan or Pakistan (can't remember which) and how the everyday people generally just want a sense of peace, safety, and provision and how they helped at times when they could. That really rang true to me in my deployments as a Seabee. I found it consistent with my experience to be similar to what you experienced. If at all possible and you get a chance it might be beneficial to re emphasis that it in a general sense in light of some of the things that are occurring currently. There are good AND bad people in every race, color and greed. Keep up the good work.
00:29 🧠 Exposure to blast waves during combat tours caused microscopic brain tears undetectable by MRIs or PET scans.
01:38 🛌 Returning home, Ryan Larkin showed symptoms of PTSD like sleep issues, nightmares, and irritability, leading to a decline in relationships.
02:47 💊 Over 40 medications prescribed to Ryan worsened his condition, leading to feelings of being mentally unstable and operationally unfit.
04:46 🎖 Despite being a legacy SEAL with a father in the Navy, Ryan Larkin faced severe mental health struggles after multiple tours.
05:02 🧠 Posthumous brain study revealed Ryan's severe brain injury linked uniquely to blast exposure, affirming his prior concerns.
06:54 🌊 The Navy SEALs' culture experienced changes over time, impacting the experiences and challenges faced by newer members.
13:06 🎖 Frank Larkin's experiences in the Navy and SEAL Teams during the '70s/'80s differed significantly from his son Ryan's time in the SEALs.
17:25 🌊 The culture and dynamics within the SEAL Teams evolved over the years, impacting the leadership styles and experiences of members.
19:20 💪 Mentions of remarkable leaders like Marcinko and experiences shaping Frank Larkin's perspective on leadership and camaraderie in the SEALs.
21:40 🌍 Historical and geopolitical changes influenced the nature of warfare and the challenges faced by military units like the SEALs.
23:32 🏙 Frank Larkin recounts his experiences operating in unique and tense environments like Berlin during the Cold War, showcasing the varied terrains the SEALs navigated.
24:13 🛠 The downsizing of the Navy post-Vietnam led to some SEALs being sent to the fleet after making it through SEAL Team training.
25:23 📘 Relationships between Naval Special Warfare and the larger Navy have been strained at times, but when it works well, it's incredible.
26:01 🚢 Shortages were common in the 70s, impacting Navy resources from ships to operational planes.
27:10 🛏 The gear quality and availability contrast between the past and present military equipment is substantial.
28:18 🌍 International tensions rose in the 70s, especially with terrorism, Cuban infiltration, and activity in Africa.
31:57👮 Building trust and rapport with the community was essential during service as a police officer, emphasizing compassion and empathy.
34:43 🧩 The experience as a homicide detective raised doubts about the accuracy of reported veteran suicide numbers due to classification complexities.
39:36 🔍 Working in homicide varied in intensity, sometimes handling multiple cases simultaneously, affecting personal life and relationships.
45:12 💔 Cases involving child abuse resulting in murder highlighted the dire consequences of unprepared or abusive parenting situations.
46:44 🚔 Law enforcement encounters emotionally taxing situations, requiring restraint despite the urge for immediate justice.
49:03 💵 Secret Service primarily deals with protecting the monetary system through investigations into counterfeiting and fraud.
51:29 🚨 Engaged in Secret Service during Reagan and Bush administrations; witnessed historical events, such as 9/11.
59:52 💥 Traveled to conflict zones in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Rwanda, and Burundi for diplomatic missions amidst severe violence.
01:05:38 🌆 Stationed in New York as a Secret Service senior supervisor during 9/11, narrowly escaping the Twin Towers attack.
01:08:19 🏙 The speaker recounts the events of 9/11, evacuating Tower 7 adjacent to Tower 1, observing the fire in Tower 1, and encountering a person who had jumped from the building.
01:11:16 🚨 Chaos ensues post-first impact, with uncertainty about what had occurred, followed by the second plane hitting Tower 2, causing debris to rain down.
01:13:20 🔥 Amid the chaos, the speaker assists police and fire commands, witnesses the collapse warning, takes cover, and experiences the collapse of the buildings at Ground Zero.
01:17:31 🚒 Assisting in firefighting efforts, aiding injured individuals, and commandeering an ambulance to transport those in criticalcondition to safety.
01:21:50 🌐 The speaker reunites with family after being reported missing, recounting the impact of the day on his family members who witnessed the events unfold through media or nearby locations.
01:25:41 👤 Briefing President Bush on the situation, the speaker continues his work at Ground Zero, experiencing the transition from rescue to recovery operations.
01:27:07 🏗 Taking his son to Ground Zero to help him understand the event, describing the extensive destruction and the shift from rescue to recovery operations.
01:28:03 🏢 Transitioning back to White House security operations, the speaker's family relocates while his son finishes high school, works in diving salvage, and gains employment at a restaurant.
01:30:04 🌊 Frank Larkin recounts the moment when his son decided to enlist in the Navy and volunteer for the SEAL program, despite not fully comprehending the weight of his decision.
01:31:39 🌟 Many individuals joined the military after 9/11 with the resolve to be part of the solution and prevent such events from happening again.
01:33:29 💡 Frank Larkin's involvement in the defense sector after retiring from the Secret Service led him to work extensively on countering IEDs, a major threat in conflicts, through the Gedo organization.
01:41:30 🩹 Frank Larkin's son endured SEAL training with a stress fracture in his leg, eventually leading to a broken back during Hell Week, demonstrating remarkable resilience.
01:48:06 📈 Frank Larkin's approach to support units involved sending personnel forward to the battlefield, maintaining relationships, and extracting lessons learned to enhance operational effectiveness.
01:51:55 🤯 His son's experiences in a high-intensity deployment with a tier one task force in Iraq led to confronting intense situations that could contribute to moral injury and mental challenges.
01:52:36 🛌 Changes in behavior: Ryan Larkin's return from deployment marked a significant shift in behavior, showing signs of sleep issues, nightmares, anxiety, and increased irritability.
01:53:56 🚁 Helicopter challenges: Ryan faced high altitude sickness, multiple helicopter issues, including unnerving near-crashes, impacting his mental state and comfort with aviation.
01:58:16 🤔 Coping strategies: Juggling the unpredictability of military service, focusing on what one can control, and managing mental stress by redirecting thoughts and concentrating on the task at hand.
02:04:28 🛌 Escalating issues: Ryan's sleep deprivation, increased alcohol consumption, physical pain, and haunting memories of past events highlighted his struggle with mental health.
02:07:38 🏡 Comfort in deployment: Ryan felt more at ease in the deployment zone than back home, finding it difficult to reconcile civilian life's perceived triviality with the intensity of his experiences.
02:09:24 💥 Intense training: Ryan's role in intense urban combat training exposed him repeatedly to concussive forces, adding to the cumulative stress and physical toll he endured.
02:12:26 🚨 Medical intervention: Despite seeking medical help for sleep and anxiety issues, prescribed medication exacerbated his condition, leading to incidents that raised concerns about his well-being.
02:14:55 🧠 Behavioral patterns in SEAL Teams, like drinking or acting recklessly, often perceived as normal due to high-risk job nature.
02:16:59 🔄 Transition from wild behavior to more responsible life, often happening as SEALs get older, get married, and have kids.
02:18:38 🏠 Returning to a "normal" environment after combat isn't straightforward; societal expectations clash with the realities of veterans' experiences.
02:21:34 🧑⚕ Challenges in understanding combat-related injuries: individual differences in reactions to blast injuries complicate diagnosis and treatment.
02:27:52 🤕 Identifying cognitive, hormonal, and physiological changes in veterans remains challenging due to varying individual responses.
02:30:51 🌐 Lack of progress in understanding battlefield conditions results in various names for combat-related conditions without significant advancements in comprehension.
02:31:45 💊 Overreliance on psychiatric diagnoses often leads to prolonged medication use without addressing the underlying issues.
02:34:18 🛌 Challenges veterans face: sleep issues, substance abuse, and treatment programs' limitations in understanding their unique situations.
02:35:35 🚫 Substance abuse programs often have strict rules without accommodating relapses or understanding underlying causes, impacting veterans' recovery journey.
02:36:45 🍹 Ryan Larkin faced medical issues while in the Navy, leading to distrust in the system's handling of his case, despite wanting to stay in service.
02:37:54 🧠 Larkin, facing physical and mental challenges, grew distrustful of the medical system, feeling his information was weaponized against him.
02:39:27 🤝 Larkin felt betrayed by the community and disheartened as he couldn't perform his duties, leading to increased stress.
02:40:31 💊 Medication issues arose as Larkin was put on opioids, worsening his condition, leading to distrust in the medical system's decisions.
02:42:47 🛑 Larkin, facing a Captain's Mast due to cannabis use, decided to leave the Navy to prevent further harm.
02:43:29 🤔 Some command personalities prioritized expelling problematic cases, influencing Larkin's fate, despite support from his peers.
02:46:29 🏥 Larkin's mental health evaluation led to confinement, causing him distress and isolation, while his command appeared more focused on a case against him.
02:48:36 ⚖ Medical commands seemed more interested in building a case against Larkin than genuinely helping him, creating ethical conflicts among clinicians.
02:50:24 😔 Larkin's discharge, under questionable circumstances, left emotional scars, impacting his family, and elicited empathy from personnel executing the discharge.
02:51:48 📉 Institutional betrayal was felt as Larkin was ostracized, leading to a loss of identity and disheartening treatment from former comrades.
02:52:18 🚫 A bolo (be on the lookout) poster issued against Larkin showcased unprofessionalism and further added to his sense of betrayal.
02:56:08 🤝 Separation from military service, especially in tight-knit units like the Navy SEALs, presents a critical period, influencing one's mental health trajectory.
03:00:14 📅 Larkin's discharge in February 2016 marked a critical point in his mental health journey, leading to subsequent hospital admissions and struggles.
03:01:34 🧠 Ryan Larkin, a former Navy SEAL, struggled with mental health issues after his service, facing anger outbursts, emotional detachment, and difficulty navigating daily life.
03:02:43 🧮 Despite pursuing education and showing intellectual prowess, Ryan's stress coping mechanism involved doing math problems but was still unable to manage daily activities.
03:03:52 🏥 Ryan sought help at the VA, but the bureaucratic complexity hindered his access to adequate care, even with family members having medical backgrounds.
03:05:25 🗣 Ryan expressed to his father his feelings of something being wrong with his head, which was dismissed, ultimately leading to tragic consequences.
03:06:24 💔 Ryan's family honored his wish to donate his brain for research, revealing severe microscopic brain injuries related to blast exposure.
03:11:23 🧪 Research indicates a biological connection between blast exposure and brain injuries, often termed "invisible wounds," affecting many veterans.
03:14:07 🧠 Exposure to blast overpressure may cause circuitry damage in the brain, leading to complications and various reactions in individuals.
03:17:36 🛡 Understanding brain health doesn't compromise military effectiveness but aids in reducing risks and enhancing the resilience of the armed forces.
03:18:01 🧑⚕ Veterans returning from service often face judgmental attitudes, internal conflict, and challenges seeking help, contributing to substance use disorders.
03:19:27 🔒 Resistance to acknowledging brain health issues stems from discomfort, fear, and a lack of prioritization, affecting military personnel and recruitment.
03:25:20 🤔 Leaders often misinterpret behavioral changes in their team as disciplinary issues rather than potential health problems arising from the impact of experiences.
03:26:28 ⚖ Distinguishing between health issues and disciplinary problems is crucial; disciplinary actions might not solve underlying health-related concerns.
03:27:36 🛑 The SEAL community primarily responds to trouble by discipline, but the recognition is growing that persistent issues may indicate health concerns like alcoholism, drug problems, PTSD, or TBI.
03:28:59 🕵♂ Identifying genuine health issues amidst claims of PTSD gaming is vital; genuine cases get hindered by those exploiting the system.
03:30:35 🌐 Different individuals react uniquely to trauma, affecting them to varying extents, as seen historically in wars like WWII, Vietnam, and Korea, emphasizing the importance of recognizing individual resilience levels.
03:32:00 🚗 Timely intervention is crucial; analogous to servicing a car upon seeing the 'check engine' light to prevent complete breakdown, addressing issues in individuals before they reach a breaking point is essential.
03:34:57 🧠 Efforts to develop diagnostics for brain trauma and PTSD aim to revolutionize how behavioral issues are addressed, potentially providing insights into health issues in real-time rather than postmortem.
03:37:13 🤝 Comprehensive education and information sharing across leadership levels are crucial to understanding the impact of combat trauma and the necessity for tailored, individual treatment and recovery paths.
03:40:10 🛠 The initiative to understand the effects of modern warfare on military personnel extends beyond SEALs, encompassing various military units worldwide, necessitating a collaborative, global approach.
03:41:57 🌟 Retaining and accommodating individuals within the community despite injuries or limitations is crucial, ensuring their continued value within the team and acknowledging their past contributions.
03:44:42 🔄 Lack of understanding, coupled with personality-based biases, can lead to inadvertent neglect of individuals facing health issues, emphasizing the importance of awareness and informed leadership in handling such cases.
03:46:04 🔍 Current leadership practices sometimes prioritize legal clearance over making decisive, empathetic decisions, potentially compromising the distinctiveness and effectiveness of military units.
03:46:18 🎖 Leaders should empower individuals to adjust immediately to conditions, but excessive risk aversion is paralyzing progress in decision-making.
03:47:00 🌟 Leadership involves accountability, courage to make decisions, and accepting consequences, especially in high-stakes situations.
03:48:12 🤝 Decentralized command in combat leadership allows subordinates to lead, but it requires trust, acceptance of risk, and the willingness to take responsibility for outcomes.
03:49:23 🤲 Warrior Call is a grassroots effort to combat isolation among veterans and first responders, aiming to prevent suicides by offering support and connection.
03:53:29 🇺🇸 National Warrior Call Day seeks to encourage people to reach out to veterans or active-duty personnel, fostering connections and providing hope through simple conversations.
03:56:01 🧠 The effects of blast wave propagation on the brain are a growing concern, impacting executive functions and causing visual trauma, potentially leading to changes in behavior.
04:00:08 🚩 Maintaining focus and vigilance as a nation is crucial; distraction and dysfunction may lead to vulnerability if attention drifts from key matters affecting society's stability.
04:06:07 💡 Leadership lessons stem from both positive and negative experiences, emphasizing the importance of learning from poor leadership examples.
04:07:31 🎗 Honoring service and learning from loss, especially in tragic situations, is crucial to supporting and understanding the struggles faced by veterans and their families.
04:09:29 🧠 Mitigating the effects of brain and moral injuries among service members is crucial, emphasizing the importance of reaching out and supporting those veering off the right path.
04:11:29 🚑 Efforts within the SEAL Teams to address traumatic injuries have led to progress and ongoing studies, highlighting the importance of acknowledging and rectifying mistakes for the benefit of current and future members.
04:12:12 💔 Tragic stories like Ryan's shouldn't be in vain; efforts to spread awareness and lessons learned from such stories can help prevent similar incidents in the future.
04:15:11 ⚡ Understanding the interconnectedness of various bodily systems and how nutrition affects sleep and energy levels is vital for overall health and performance.
04:17:30 🥤 Differentiating between conventional energy drinks and Jocko Fuel, emphasizing the latter's use of clean ingredients for health and energy.
04:19:49 👕 Origin USA offers American-made clothing, highlighting the importance of supporting locally produced goods.
04:22:57 🥩 Promoting the consumption of quality steak for its health benefits and encouraging subscriptions to various channels and platforms for learning and engagement.
04:24:22 🏋♂ The importance of leadership in problem-solving, with available resources and organizations dedicated to teaching leadership skills for personal and professional growth.
Wow!! This man is a hero.. thank-you for your service sir..
This sort of fortitude and capacity is impressive. Thankfully there are private agencies that offer some of these training to civilians...seems quite important.
The retinas are direct line to the brain. That would definitely affect the brain directly. In fact my brain is being treated directly through the eyes by way of light access to those retinas and nerves.
Yes damage happens through the eyes. And damage to the optic nerve will directly affect your brain.
You know.
This why I came to the comments. Does anybody have a rough count? Lol
No disrespect to this badass or his badass son.
My add mind just got fixated on the you knows, you know?
@@jamesdavis3294 You know, I know.
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Beginning this video makes me wanna cry, ik I'm not the same since head traumas in sports and life.. also got overdosed because doctors made mistakes in the hospital.. my personality will never be the same and no test or anyone/myself can see what it truly means for the outcome.. but Ik I'm not the same. Thank God for my natural abilities and a relationship with God because I'll tell you.. you have no clue till you're chemically) physically damaged in the brain. It's almost like having a mental illness that isn't natural and isn't really anyone's fault. You're lucky if you're cognisant of it
I feel you man, I was given adderal and other amphetamine salts when I was a kid. Doctors said I had adhd. Skip foward to adulthood, I knew i didn't have a problem focusing. I had a hunch and got retested. Definetly didn't have adhd as I scored higher than most people in attention span. I have never felt normal and always stress over life. I wish I could get my childhood back. Stay strong with God and never give up. Nice to know there are others fighting the same fight.
Hang in there sir. I have made it 30 years and things will slowly get better a little bit every year that will eventually add up to noticeable improvement.
The brain does repair itself to some extent and will try to bypass the other parts, this can actually be part of the problem. Now that they are finding certain drugs can help try to reset the amygdala out of fight or flight, this sounds like a promising way to speed the process up and prevent some of the harmful rewiring, especially if done early on. Just looking into this myself though as sadly most doctors and even many specialists are still uninformed when it comes to serious and/or repeated head injuries. Not trying to preach, just trying to offer hope and say you are not alone. Stay sane, as much as anyone can be ; ), and best wishes!
P.S. There was a decent book I found a while ago, think the title, sub title?, was The Brain That Changes Itself. It covers the mechanisms of how the brain repairs itself and compensates for damage, with some case studies of how to help it for various situations.
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and Fans ;)
Thank you
Good morning Jocko
You know, this guy is pretty cool.
Yah know
Hell yeah
Thank you for this episode
Dad, Why did they do this to me? Dang talk about being abandoned by the people who should be the closest to you.
Evening sir. I've found it difficult to reach out and get in contact with you, I have a story I'd like to keep brief about my alcoholic mother and my father of dishonourable discharge and a life I've lived and the past 5 years have been hell. I'm not exactly sure how I'd be able to converse with you sir. But it would be a pleasure. Many thanks. Lex Serpentem.
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I need help with food and supplements if you can guide me tru please
Is this the same command that went after Gallagher?
Am I a good example citizen for the rest?
there was 2 new York Presbyterian hospital medics that were killed in the attack so I wonder if it was their ambulance?? heros lost too soon
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You know you know you know you know you're no
.. something on the list of crap I do wrong.. 😑👍
I'm nationally known?
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I'm sorry this is the first Jocko podcast I just can't listen to I made it 31 minutes into the broadcast but this guy just says you know 3 times every sentence and it just got so annoying that I can't listen anymore
Second,
Man one of the toughest Jocko podcasts I've listened to by far.
Tough conversation on topic but great for awareness. "Compassionate Leadership"; thank you Frank and your son for walking the line. Vet to Vet. Best Jocko this holiday season.
I worked with Wounded Warriors for a few years. I saw how much our soldiers sacrifice...not just their bodies, time, lives...but their mental health as well. A lot of them benefited from things like mindfulness. If anyone out there needs it, there's a small book called 30 Days to Reduce Depression by Harper Daniels that has simple mindfulness exercises we would use. What our soldiers go through is beyond mentally taxing, let's honor them.
This does remind me of the person who would go out and see how close C4 goes off that will knock you out and not kill you…. He C4’d himself multiple times…
Who was that?
God bless yall in Jesus name Amen 🙏
Togetherness is imperative for survival
Holy crap, I grew up in Norristown and it's only gotten worse the last time I was there. The PD has become more distant. Thank you Mr. Larkin and your son for your efforts in trying to build and protect the community, as well as military service. Even if it was before I was born. May your son's soul rest in peace.
15th comment
Anyone count how many times he said “ya know”
This man is a stallion , and I thank you for your service
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🌎❤ in a world where you can be anything...be kind ❤️🌎
your one of my fav people dude, may god keep you and your family healthy
always keep it 100!
More power to you sir 🙏💪..sorry for your loss..the strength to overcome this is unreal!
I treat a lot of these patients that have had TBI induced IED concussion injuries. It’s a mess and the VA has not done simple bloodwork for Testosterone. This is commonly low and proper management is quite helpful - and then it allows stabilizing of other hormones. Then you can treat the neurotransmitters more effectively. This can result in lower doses of medication or complete removal. Testosterone replacement is not the end I’ll be all, but it can be quite helpful for individuals who have PTSD and IED induced concussive head injuries.
These soldiers had all the drive and motivation prior to their injuries- and then they were told basically to just “suck it up”. That’s not the way to go about this. They can’t be taught to be a warrior and then not trained to handle what happened to their life after combat. We need to not only thank our soldiers but also protect them (and their families).
I don't believe we civilians could ever comprehend what these heros have been through BUT we do think everything should be done to help our heros.
Just woke up and this is what I needed to hear.
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Energy of our departed does come in and out, and especially when we, here in the living are struggling.
My heart goes out to Ryan's father, mother, and his teammates.
i really believe the dod needs to sign off on alot of funds to discover a system to monitor our service members so they dont reach a breaking point and keep them healthy,this is in the best interest of keeping our forces 100percent but mainly these men deserve every thing we can give them to take care of these heros.
It's sucks because too many veterans have pride to admit they need mental health therapy
Prayers and gratitude.
Jocko's work has empowered me to improve my life in every aspect.
2:38:00 I took AMBIEN for sleep after a drowning incident that put me on a DIALYSIS MACHINE. Crazy thing is after taking it , I felt like I just drank 10 pots of coffee , my heart was racing out of my chest. And within seconds multiple nurses and Doctors were in my ICU hospital room.