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JOHN DEERE is one of the most recognizable brands in the world with its iconic yellow deer, the symbol of HARD WORK! But did you know their tractors and farm equipment have been helping the world for nearly 200 years?! Join James as he plows the fields of John Deere’s long history. From the Model D and 110, to Gator 6x4 and beyond. And by “beyond”, I mean farmers fighting for the right to repair their JOHN DEERE tractors which could change the nature of farming forever.
►Episode Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:28 Plowlogue
04:14 First Deere
07:15 Hay and Snow
12:20 Gator Aid
15:05 Right to Repair
17:30 Modern Venison
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Does anyone else actually agree with John Deere regarding right to fix?
No 😂
Nope
No
Never
There so expensive they should be able to fix it.
I'm happy that Donut is covering something that is actually an issue for people.
People don’t realize this isn’t just an issue for farmers. If John Deere can take away the right to repair, what can automotive companies do?
Edit: I get it. Other companies are doing it too. The point is it’s still illegal because in the US we have the Right to Repair law. If they let John Deere get away with it, all the other companies can too.
Exactly, the whole software argument is ridiculous especially considering that the world is going to electric everything.
Tesla has been doing it since they started as well.
If you enter into a contract, ought you honor that contract?
@@prairiefarmer5994 uhhh things they are already doing? lol
Heard "Right to Repair", started thinking about Louis Rossman, and all of a sudden the legend himself appears. Crossovers you never thought would happen
What is this a crossover episode?
Louis is the best
This issue is massive, with repercussions that affect the bottom lines of farmers everywhere. Farming is really a game of timing everything. You have a very narrow window to properly do each task, whether it is seeding, spraying, or harvesting; if you are outside of the ideal window it will hurt your profits.
By needing to wait for "techs" to come out and reset your computer or make a minor fix that 10 years ago you could do yourself the cost is in the thousands.
I don't know any farmers that support John deere on this issue.
Especially on weekends, you know your fucked if you have to call them
Normal people: uses current year to measure how long ago somthing was
Donut: uses the year post malone was born in.
"I've never driven a tractor but I've driven like a million Gators."
I think that's how Florida works
John Deere Gators with gators in the back
Comander Mcgarrett John Deere Gators with gators in the back with gator hats on
I’ve never driven a gator but I’ve driven a lot of tractors
Lol
I'm from Florida and can confirm this to be true
Hey James, fun tidbit real quick. As a farmer in south Alabama, there’s a big movement from the smaller farmers, those that don’t have 50,000 acres in Nebraska, to buy older tractors. We run 13 total in our operation and the newest being a 1992 Case Magnum. The “Right to Repair” battle has caused farmers to stray away from newer and often times safer equipment for things they can repair without going bankrupt. Even Deere’s more “every man” oriented tractors are still pushing $80,000 by the time your done paying interest.
I was actually thinking about this as well. Welker Farms for example use the old Big Buds.
Has there been any price change on the used tractoes market?
I definitely don't have 50,000 acres but in Nebraska as far as us ranchers go it's the same. All the tractors we work don't have canopies and most have no fan covers. The huge majority are from the 70s to 50s in terms of manufacturing years.
John Deere is still making new non computerized tractors out of Mexico and India. Probably not exporting to the US tho. Available to 3rd world countries for now. Can be repaired by non-dealers but need to get parts from dealers
The same issue is going on in the UK agricultural machinery dealers have suffered really low sales for at least two or three years since 2016 as most tractors tend to be more expensive to buy and run as most new tractors have to have add blue systems to cut emissions in the UK and they are a lot more complex to fix. They are also a bit bigger than the tractors brought out 20 years ago and the issue with this is that they can't easily get down the narrow roads/lanes and sometimes the gates to the fields.
My family farm only runs older tractors that we can fix are selves the new equipment we run at work has thrown codes with under 100 hours they don’t make modern equipment to last because they know that it will break and they can make more off the owner the newer equipment I have run has had way more problems than the tractors we run on the farm
The Up To Speed series has always been our favorite on your channel. Once again, we learn more information and history in such an easy-to-understand way. Thanks, Donut!
Other than appreciating a lot your storytelling style and speech, I've been always fascinated from the JD brand. I'm italian, grew in the countryside and not directly me but when someone's dad owned a JD tractor in his farm industry it was like for city boys to have their dad owning a Mercedes AMG. Nice to learn some history about this iconic brand!
Thank you for your life story
"Im a bit of an amatuer farmer myself" Pretty sure James was just saying he grows weed.
Nice! Didn't pick that out haha
He even uses a radio model controlled tractor because he's serious about authenticity.
Not everyone is a dopehead
@@llkjjjss Ok red foreman, it was just a joke haha
😂😂
My grandpa is a cattle and hay farmer. He’s old school. Gets up with the sun, doesn’t talk about his emotions, doesnt cook his own food, poors gasoline on open wounds and loves all things John Deere. To be fair he only has equipment from like 70’s - mid 90’s so he can still fix all his own stuff. I loved getting to drive the gator around as a kid too!
Lol @ doesn’t talk about his feelings
That's the thing. Farmers don't need to buy these new locked tractors. They can buy or refurbish old tractors. Either ones the own or someone else's unused tractors. Being industrial equipment, users tend to keep them until they have a serious problem. It's not like autos, where people upgrade because of the need to own the new model. This issue makes fixing tractors they'd normally replace more economically viable.
lokisgodhi but the problem is that some extremely large family owned farms aren’t able to keep up with old equipment, thus why there are new tractors and why the right to repair law exists.
@@lokisgodhi Yes, keeping old tractors and using them 25.000 hours and more is economically; on the one hand. On the other hand, you need tractors that are reliable. New trators with little hours on the clock tend to be more reliable than old ones. Plus today you'd want new tech in your tractor, like ISOBUS and autosteer. It's difficult to impossible to upgrade older ones. And apart form that, most farms are owenr/oparator businesses. And we rather spend 14 hours on a modern fancy tractor, than on an old goat. Check out "Fendt 1050" and "Valtra N 174D" for examples of state of the art models.
I personally don't feel the need to get a John Deere. That right to repair discussion is just one of multiple reasons why I chose other brands.
pours gasoline on open wounds? That can't be sanitary
I'm not even really into cars and stuff but I've been binging this channel lately because James is such a good presenter.
Good job guys.
I am an old-school Kansas farmer and a vocational-school-trained mechanic. I can say that Donut hit the nail on the head and that none of this is fake news.
Anyone should have the right to modify anything they own as long as it meets regulations. But... Any manufacturer should reserve the right to void the warranty if done so.
Problem is they wont let their owners use the computer to do diagnostics.
Did not expect the Welkers watching Donut Media, but this is farming related....
Was not expecting you here
Isn’t that the way it is now ? John Deere will only guarantee that the product works properly if they are involved. I see a problem if JD puts in features that stalls working equipment unless you pay them to unlock it. (This is not intended to be an upsetting comment).
@@nubreed13 that's not entirely true. They can purchase the hardware and software (much like a dealership does) but it ultimately is cost prohibitive unless you want to start working on tractors all day and stop farming.
I get where JD is coming from. Alot of time and $ goes into the development of any product. The high tech machines we have now or even 25 years ago are expensive to design and build. You want to fix it? Go ahead and buy the software. Don't think that just bc they built a tractor there isn't an entire division of electrical engineers, softaare designers, programmers and others involved that still have to be paid and continue developing new products.
Btw, thank the us epa if you really have a problem with it. Without increasing demands for cleaner engines with increased efficiency we would still be running the old black smoke spewing tractors of yester year.
Everyone else: He was born in 1892
James: 103 yEarS BeForE PosT MalOne was born
Don't mock the definitive way to measure time
Venatus Gullebulle hilarious use of mixed capitalization. Very humorous 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well because that’s the only accurate type of measurement
103 P.M.
Year 103, Pre Malone.
LMAO that crack me up
What I've learned here.
John deers history and that it's the apple of farming.
Until now, Apple released a self-repair program
John Deere is the Ferrari of tractors
Not on performance though, on lawsuits definitely
almost all new tractors have autosteer nowadays. You can even get easy blot on devices that bolt straight to the steering wheel that do the same thing. Even for 30+ year old tractors.
Imagine straight up buying a Honda just for Honda motor company to be like "yeah if you fix your car yourself we're going to sue you"
Me with my bum ass civic
It’s more like buying an Acura nsx and them telling you no, this actually a Bugatti if you touch any other other then the steering wheel, You void warranty... oh yeah p.s every fitting we use to make from metal we now make with non uv resistant plastic so it will break down and crumble off your machine and shut you down for a 4+ days at the worst possible time for a part that’s worth 2.79 😂😭but it’s not Deere that’s the issue there all like this now it’s like AI farming
lol u dont even needa fix a honda sometimes, just let that puppy roll and it'll be fine.
Oh you mean like a Tesla?
@@mzaite true but Tesla has always been like that both Honda and John Deere have been a relatively user serviceable product up until recently with John Deere
Literally, James only made this episode so he could say “More plowah...” 👏
8:05 Hay go *Y E E T*
Our local farmers have started buying either different brands,or more commonly, older tractors with no computer systems onboard.
The company I work for got rid of all their new- new-ish (00's +) Deere tractors. A combination of the repair issue and slow customer service damn near crippled our harvest season and corporate damn near had a conniption. By the following season Deere tractors were gone from our local facilities.
Good, let Deere suffer from the democracy of capitalism. Thank goodness for consumer choice.
The only reason to love donut is that they give content about all stuff over automobiles. They are not limited to sports cars and super cars. Keep it up james,nolan,jeremiah and jobe
they all have J's some where in thier names.... Nolan *J* Sykes, for example....
Make an Up to Speed on J's Racing
Agreed!!
@@ryanroberts3793 well that's also true
JAMES WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT OUT THEM RIDICULOUS TORQUE SPECS?!?!?!
Rightttttt?
They are kinda unmeasurable, tourqe can be altered user to user.
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Jesse Monk ret wt
Andrew Valenzuela yrysts
Dude, your in depth knowledge of deere co. Is freaking awesome.
Dude they have a team of researcers working on research before each epit.
I love tractors and tractor history. Please do more of these about the other companies at some point. Thanks for the show.
Besides the Deere there isn't much else. You have Case-International Harvester, New Holland, and Massey Ferguson (in the US and Canada). There are others outside the US and the brands I mentioned are owned by foreign conglomerates except Deere, but you rarely see those other brands in the US. They could do defunct brands like Minneapolis-Moline, Big Bud, Ford Tractor division, Allis-Chalmers, Oliver, McCormick, and White Farm but many of these were absorbed by the aforementioned brands. Now an even more interesting story is how old man Lamborghini went from building tractors and farm equipment to producing supercars to destroy Ferrari.
The current john deere's stance on being anti repair is destroying their reputation with the farmers.
It dun been wrecked
Same with consumers and their markup on licenced products
That and quality control.
I agree, my dad's a farmer with old deere equipment. But not me, I'm becoming a youtuber i guess with my new channel about trucks in the mountain where there are no farms. We sill own the family farm though, dad still works it
I only need point out Harley Davidson if you think junk won't sell in the US simply bc of legacy
Simply put, we need a national "right to repair" law.
We have one
Louis Rossmann is fighting for that,right to repair electronic device and tractor
It's sad that companies will screw people until they legally can't.
Here, hear
@@chrisfloyd7316 thank the uni party
my grandparents literally repair stuff all the time, and sometimes when something breaks, it will show up an error code on their tractor or combines and say something like error: 4223, and, obviously, they dont know what error that is (they will look it up sometimes and every once and a while there are a few posts or something along those lines that tell them whats wrong, but even if they fix it, it still has the error and will govern the engine harsher) so then they have to call someone from john deere to drive out to the feild, and then the tractor is either out of comission for a few days- week, or the engine is governed even harsher until the guy shows up, and it costs hundreds of dollars every time
"Hey not so fast there pal not all of our pizza is deep some of it is really thin and crispy.. no tomatoes lol"
Active Duty U.S. Marine here, and I have been an engineer equipment mechanic for 14 years now, and we use quite a few J.D. pieces of gear. Medium bulldozer, front end loader, tracked hydraulic excavator, runway sweeper, and either a fuel or water 600gpm pump powered by a J.D. engine. It's funny that this video was released so recently because I am actually in the process of repairing one of our J.D. powered vehicles. We are trying to get an ECM flashed with J.D. programming but the process is... arduous even for us. We have anywhere from a $10,500 to $30,000 electrical diagnostic system for our vehicles, but the J.D. Service Advisor software is not on any of it. We have to get approved to open purchase a $300 software flash from a local J.D. licensed dealer, that is about 120 miles from our base. I thought that was unusual, but it sounds like I have it easy compared to farmers.
You have a mechanical engineer degree?
JD should prob be careful then. Nothing makes the US Military more salted than needing to spend more money tractor tech
@@Czarhuisteco not yet, working on it. Active duty does not leave much time for that, work, and family.
@@Czarhuisteco I think he's saying that he's a mechanic on equipment used by an engineering unit.
@@GMAN142006 Good luck!
The last thing I expected from Donut was to see "Up to Speed" on Tractors.
Would have been better to call it "Up to Torque"
JCB made a tractor do 90mph
Shoulda been called "Up to No Good". Crap history lesson. First and last video I'll watch from him.
@izphuzzy the issue is not late 90s tractors here. This is for new equipment that isn't paid off yet. Once it's paid off, it's all yours
7:50 it's 2020 and I am still throwing the bales in the wagon every harvests. It's like straw from 15 hectares but it is still a very hard work. Not mentioning sometimes the bales from wet hay.
My sympathies. I worked bail runs when I was 14 for some extra cash. To this day my shoulders and back twitch when I see someone running a bailer trailer in the field.
My grandpa also has a 4030 as you show us in one of the clips... And its just PERFECT to drive
*"JOHN DEERE: A Controversial American Icon | Up To Seed"* should be the title for this one
That is the title
@@farmerboy9029 up to speed and up to seed is the difference
@@farmerboy9029 Get reading son...
Didn’t notice up to SEED at first, that is good
Agreed
James Pumphrey, you missed the coolest tractor that john deere has ever built. Please lookup "walking tractor timberjack by john deere" it's basically an AT-AT walker from StarWars. I saw it in person at the john deere museum in Moline Illinois and really don't want you to miss it.
5hat thing is wiiild
Lol this is awesome, thanks
Stuff of nightmares!
That’s some Avatar type shit vro
That thing walks so slow
I grew up on a farm here in the great white north, and we had a lot of John Deere equipment. Our baler had that "bale ejector technology" (we just called it a kicker, but I don't know if that's the technical term for it), and it worked really well... as long as it didn't get stuck after throwing a bale. Which happened. A lot. But, that's farming for ya: if everything is going smoothly, wait 5 minutes.
And this is just a small nitpick, but a lot of non-farmers don't know the difference between hay and straw. Hay is the blend of grasses & legumes (like clover, for instance) that gets fed to the animals; that part you nailed, full-stop. Straw, on the other hand, is the stem of the grain plant, gets used for bedding the animals' stalls & pens, and is typically much more disposable; it's much more likely to be used for haunted house mazes & soapbox derby courses than hay. Like I said, minor nitpick, but I thought I'd just let you know
Their history is so much richer than I thought it would be. Great vidoe senor James!
I live in a city but James is convincing enough that I’m considering a full-size John Deere tractor as my daily...
I remember Deer also
😂 😂
Just get a Gator
Buy a Dodge with a cummins 5.9 in it. Same engine is used in multiple JD tractors
Deer 🦌 God
And now we’re doing an Up To Speed on John Deere.
Yep the best tractor brand
Yep
Jefferson Liston pre 80s Massey Ferguson was the best
2020 everyone
Quite slow
James you are so cool! The editing of these video's is way above any Hollywood production. Keep up the great work mate from New Zealand
My grandad tried explaining to me about a John Deer farm embargo in the mid 90’s.. he said something about because of a computers he needs to have a semi come to the farm and pick up the tractor whenever something had to be changed(he meant fixed, he’s old German and English wasn’t good).. the next year he sold everything he owned John deer(clothing included) and started driving Case/new Holland.
Wasn’t sure how James was gonna cover right to repair. Surprised and delighted he included Louis in this video.
What time stamp?
You should use "Pre-malone" and "post-malone" as your measurement of years.
2020 a.d is too high of a number. 25 p.m is and easy number.
I'm going to do my part and try to spread the word on every video
In the year 103 Pre-Malone....
I can imagine the rage a farmer must have having to either hire a towing company to bring a semi to tow there huge Deere or spend an hour or so loading it up onto their own semi to drive it 3 hours away to the nearest shop to get their Deere fixed when they could've done it in an hour in the barn. Plus the costs with the wear and tear and fuel for the truck
Usually the dealer has the towing capability, and competition from case mostly keeps them in line. What's maddening is the John Deere business model: make a part everyone else sells for $100, paint it green, sell it for $500.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate the effort you put into this video and helping to inform me. It’s kind of important cause I start working For Martin Deerline tomorrow which is a John Deere dealer
I love how James uses “before post Malone was born” as a time stamp
wasnt funny
This goes to show what great entertainers the guys at donut are, I have barely any more than zero interest in tractors and farming equipment, but I’ll happily sit here and watch this because I know for sure it’ll be interesting 😂
Exactly what I said! Donut is great!
18:08 he says "amateur farmer" but the captions say "immature farmer" :D
6:14 made me all misty eyed. That could be my grandpa right there. Looks like him, loved John Deeres
Hey James you forgot to even talk about the hacker groups that have been hired by the farmers so they can fix there own tractors
He also forgot that you can buy the program, you have to be trained to use it and fix your tractor.
Before you criticize a dude for forgetting a small detail, make sure you spell tractors correctly😂
Hoyt Benson lol just saw that. thanks iPhone auto correct so good much wow
Steven LaFrance ah yes, much convenient
@@StevenLaFrance you neglected to correct the grammar tho lol
There’s a reason farmers are going back to older models.
I have a newer john deere, but if it breaks I break out the model B and git shit done
Do other companies like Case IH have these regulations?
Small tractor market is now Dominated by Mahindra...
@@Lazlo. not NEARLY as much. They're a conglomerate of Case, International, Caterpillar, Minneapolis Moline, and many others. They adapt and standardize, which keeps price down. John Deere is the Apple of the tractor world, whereas Case is like samsung and New Holland is like Huwei
John Deere & Apple. Perfect comparison
Thanks for the very interesting video. Would be nice to mention also the construction and forestry equipment made by JD. Thanks again
John deer also has 50 years of woodsman experience in machinery , loaders , skiders , my dad worked all his life as a lumberjack , the brand he all ways used , was john deer ,
I learnt at 13 on a 540 c , working with my dad.
Oh, so why can't the ACTUAL software engineers that went through college, courses etc. repair tractors? Oh, you need a special paper? Bullshit. I've been to a "hacker" repair shop where unauthorised mechanics repair John Deere stuff, because there is no dealerships for farmers nearby (and believe me, transporting a combine through country isn't an easy thing.) and I spoke to farmers on the site and some of them are repairing their stuff there for more than a decade without any problems.... until John Deere started to block ECU's after recognising someone unauthorised tampered with them.
Farmers playing with the gators reminds me of how bored cattle ranchers started shooting each other with cattle markers and VOLIA paintball was born!!
ahahah what a fun fact. Btw it's voilà.
That's an awesome tidbit
so happy David Rossman is getting things done in the right to repair front.
The way that bailer just friggin yeets that bail is so comical
Ok but they should have called the farm crisis “Farmageddon”. Just saying
Agreed
FARMGATE
Farmageddon is Iowa State vs Kstate duh
I associate that word very very much with Farmtruck and AZN though
Nothing runs like a Deere, especially when it's being chased by a CAT
You know why they're green and yellow, right? So they can hide in the cornfield when the Cat goes by.
And crosses a Ford
Lol
reminder that Caterpillar makes locomotives
Or a Magnum
3:31
Chicago Rock Island and Pacifc flatcar
We need an episode on International Harvester/ Case IH now
I've grown up on a farm my whole life. My dad and my brother both farm. Mostly because of this channel actually, I've gotten into cars, it's really become a passion for me. So for you guys to do an episode on something so engrained in my past and my life is really really cool! And I was honestly a little worried you'd sound a bit amateur, but you guys did amazing. Love your writing, everyone at donut deserves the most epic hand hurting high five! Love you guys
He mispronounced Moline but got Illinois right, so we'll let the downright catastrophic Moline blunder slide
"engrained" lol
Amazing to see Louis Rossmann cross over into a Donut Media video. Right to repair is a serious issue that needs more attention. It seemed like for too long Louis was the only one giving it true spotlight. Thanks guys!
I would have loved if you’d talked about their combines. Great vi
there really isn't a single up to speed vid that's missing the More Powah Babeh line :d
i love it
Day 205 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Edit: I’m late, I know, wasn’t expecting an early video...
My hero
Ahh the legend is here good
Day 10 of supporting PaganiGaming
Day 1 of supporting pagani gaming
Yeah even me
soon as I hear "right to repair" I knew Louis Rossman would show up at one point.
I really hope more people open their eyes to the issues farmers around the world are facing because of this. And if this battle is won it’ll open up the door for similar fights against the automotive industry, apple, samsung, etc
Fun fact: The engines used in the Gators are made by Kawasaki. I should know, I work at a factory that makes them.
And most of their riding mowers have briggs or kholer engines. Some Kawis as well
Are we getting an Up To Speed on Caterpillar soon then? Also missed out on the Deere construction branch
If this gets 10 likes they have to do catapiller
but which catapillar ... catapilllar or Caterpillar
Shake Hands With Danger
Cat power baby
@@Name-cy8ym nig ba
Klaas
MORE PLOWAH BABY! Good one.
Yeah we need a plow that can drag through our garden like our freaking hot dogs
Yeah no ketchup
No ketchup
No ketchup
Fun fact: I'm watching this from a Deere facility in Waterloo.
Fun Fact: Your about a hour and a half from me.
@@BigIronFab Iowa gang rise up
i grew up in dsm/waterloo and just moved to moline/rock island. quad cities car scene is way underrated
Cool stuff, man. I regularly pick up people's vehicles from there to get worked on at my dealership.
I'm from sask
I love it you guys found a way to include a Larry Enticer clip still gonna send it 😂
as someone who used to work in agriculture, many large farms used model Ds well into the 1990s. they're so easy to repair. model Ds don't die.
Laughed way too hard at "Mo' Plowah Babeh".
Imagine how many inventions would be lost today if napkins wouldn't exist.
Suppose that you were sitting down at a table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those
@@ImponteDeluxo shit man, definitely didn’t expect to read this at 2am, but was really eye opening
@@Trollofjom69
now if you excuse me i have to put together jesus corpse like a lego set while i escape from a crippled cowboy and his italian boyfriend
Or if us whites and asians didnt exist
@@cheekybloke9836 Basically.
It should also be noted that clearing the codes can be done with a can sniffer and a laptop. As for emissions, the reason they don't want to screwing with that is because there is an element in the exhaust that gets far hotter than anything in your car or truck to burn off trapped particulates. When it was being designed and we were testing it, we had several fires develop just because he a few leaves around that element. The fact that it is such a delicate balance has why they don't want you anywhere near emissions
As someone who worked for one of the largest New Holland dealers in the USA it’s $145 an hour to have a mechanic come out, not including parts so if you live 2 hours away from the dealership which is not uncommon and the programming of the new part takes an hour you will be charged for 5 hours bc ride time is billed
When James started talking about right to repair, I imagined a 60-some year-old gritty farmer with a beat up ThinkPad hooked up to his tractor console just HAMMERING at the keyboard
yeah, and with a crap ThinkPad hooked up to a 20 year old machine, he'll still get it fixed. (though it might take a little bit longer) On most of these machines, there are items that are almost "wear and tear" so you just know when a lift stops working that it's a certain $0.15 rubber o-ring. But when the rules in place state that you can't bring your machine back out of limp mode "legally" after you replaced it for the 4th time?
Idk if yall know any farmers but they almost automatically know what is wrong with their tractor as soon as something fucks up
@@joneubanks9686Above o-ring comment is personal knowledge, haha!
@@knappyfro1 respect.
@@knappyfro1 oh shit yeah
i imagine John Deere would be churning in his grave right now knowing what his company has been doing to modern farmers
Nice
A lot of company founders would be saying that now
True
@@mrkingofhaha he made them less advanced, not less reliable. This was to make them more affordable to farmers of the time.
Actuly not have the right to repair your tractor is only a thing in America. Becouse its the only place were you can Lobby the shit out of everybody
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS! Spread the word, help the little man! America wouldn’t be the America it is today without these farmers.
I got a tractor ad clicking this video and i’m loving it already
I have always appreciated delicious lawn formulas.
Milo eh 🤔 throw er down eh
Simply put, we need a national "right to repair" law.
Starting Spring 2021 I'm gunna start eating all my dandelions.
It's got electrolytes! That's what plants crave!
Gots to have dem electrolytez
As a Moline resident, it’s pronounced “Mo-Leen”. I know it’s weird, Illinois is weird, we have a town called Orion, but it’s pronounced “Or-ee-un”
Lol thanks, I’m on the other side of the river in Davenport and was going to say something
@@calciumphosphate3177former Bettendorf resident here
I'm from Moline too live in Bettendorf now!!
Former Galesburg resident.
That is because it was formerly French
Off topic, but my uncle is one of those guys that grew up on a farm and always wore a John Deere hat, went on to become a home builder and retired years ago, buying a largish property in TN. He was so damn excited to be able to go into a local Deere dealer and purchase a tractor with a handful of attachments. They delivered it all one day and I watched him almost cry when the tractor failed to lift up a single piece of side walk concrete. The front hydraulics absolutely suck. He's kept it, but he stopped wearing their hats and tells everyone to buy something japanese instead. Sad.
I thought I was the only guy that had the POP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS song as my ring tone. Makes sense for James to have it as well though 😆 lol
Growing up 40 minutes from Moline, this video is A: proof that everyone only see's Illinois as Chicago and B: why the rest of Illinois hates Chicago. Also it's pronounced Mo-Leen
Yes man you are so total right gibson ill 👍
Thank you, I’m from Andalusia but have lived in both moline and rock island
Illinois is a suburb of Chicago 😂😂
Chicago, the armpit of Illinois
East Mo baby
Things we need an Up To Speed on: Ford Torino, Ford Flacon, Chevy Nova, Plymouth Road Runner, Oldsmobile 442, Mercedes 190e Evo2, Roush, Yenko
Ford Falcon yessss great history outside the US
Santiago Argüello “the 4 door supercharged Mustang gt”
For the Merc it'd have to be the E190 cosworth, then the Evo then Evo II (gotta have the whole family)
That lotr reference was amazing
Love the way you say horsepower
Very informative
An Up to Speed on JD? Now we need one on Case IH
And kubota
Merlyn Wayman “kubota” lmao
Please no.
And Allis Chalmers
James legit just made history about tractors interesting. I feel like James can make anything interesting
It’s an interesting history, he just put a spotlight on it. Love this channel
But tractors are interesting
6420 is a good tractor.
@RootstownFarms Expect a Fiatagri or a Valtra
@RootstownFarms Any tractor is good unless it is a kubota
This video makes me wanna go be a good wisconsin boy and set up a farm.
Also the 9620 RX in the last segment looks insane! That it can drive itself is also incredible.
Thank you for all the truth in the history of john deere and agriculture as a whole
The guy starting his tractor then giving that stare..priceless.. lol
Apple, Tesla, John Deere, "you don't need to fix it just buy a new one"
Wanna know how much does a 8000 series tractor costs? If u wanna pay 200.000 +$
Yeah, sadly I'm gonna buy an iPhone for something work related (a service we use has an app that only works on iPhones) I'm getting a used one, most likely with a broken screen, but I still hate that I gotta do it.
Donut media NEEDS an Up To Speed video about Donut media
It would be so good
It’s so crazy the hear how behind the curve John deers are when it came to tractor development