Japan's National Park Mystery | MoistCr1TiKaL Reacts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 เม.ย. 2024
- MoistCr1TiKaL checks out an amazing video by Barley Sociable that delves into the strange and puzzling incident at Japan's Daisetsuan National Park. Over time, several hikers have vanished without a trace. The only clues left behind are an elaborate SOS sign made from birch trees, seen from the air, and a distressing audio recording of their cries for help.
As the investigation progressed, the grim discovery of human remains added a dark chapter to the story. Authorities and rescue teams have scoured the area, but no clear answers have surfaced, leaving the fate of the hikers shrouded in mystery. What dark secrets does the Daisetsuan National Park hold? Join us as we analyze the evidence, discuss potential theories, and ponder what truly happened on that remote mountainside.
Original Video - • The SOS Sign Incident ...
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I feel like it was a cerial killer drugged him , drove him or carried him away then put his body back and did that sos
chat saying "you're over thinking" on a literal unsolved mystery is beyond moronic
its chat what do you expect lol
nahhh you're over thinking it fs
You guys know chat is like an amalgamation of chatters and not like one entity right
@@psycholol4855☝️🤓
i think youre over thinking it, unironically though
Here's a likely scenario about that mystery axe. The cops actually found it, but some dumb idiot at the evidence storage department lost it. And since the case was a big one, the police department decided to just hide the fact that they lost evidence under their care.
Honestly, that makes a lot of sense because Japanese people care a lot about their public view. So if someone from the police department really did lose the evidence, they would never let that be known.
Isn’t more likely that the search was inadequate and just didn’t turn up an axe? The person could have lost it somewhere or used it as protection (by throwing it towards and animal) and it got lost in the dirt/foliage.
@@DEMONICxHADESkind of like how American cops would rather murder someone than let their corruption gets exposed
I had more of a feeling they were already cut and left behind maybe by the parks forestry department or something else and then dragged to the clearing
Maybe the tool broke and he tossed it
If the water is dirty, upstream there is a source of that dirt. If it's clean, other people will more than likely be downstream. Not always true but shit if you're out in the middle of nowhere you gotta try something.
if a creek smells like shit, there's probably someone dumping septic tanks upstream XD
lmao did you learn this in minecraft
I like how they brushed over the fact that his backpack was partially buried....
the axe got isekai'd
So there is a missing truck-kun too?
@@salteadog33 nah the truck-kun is the axe's waifu
A tool that I can think of him making is some kind of improvised pocket saw that you can wrap around the tree and saw it. But since the saw is made of metal, the weather can just cause it to rust and slowly disappear to the environment.
Wire saws are a thing and is used by outdoor hikers quite commonly.
@@matthewjaniss4103 Can wire saws cut through hard wood? Especially, the amount of trees that were cut down for that SOS? Not asking sarcastically, I'm being sincere.
i need more videos ab storytimes im running out of moist content 😭🤣
lol same
Mr.Ballen has a video on this incident ! He didn’t cut down the trees from what I remember, someone else did and he found the location like that. I think a helicopter pilot knew about the SOS location before this guy went missing. Or something like that
I was looking for this comment. Mr. Ballen did such a better job at telling this true story.
#mrballen
That’s literally the first guy he talks about in the beginning. Completely separate guys.
@@izzycspp3514 now my interest is peaked. Cuz this sounds so familiar. Does anyone have the link to the story?
@@vawkwardbat th-cam.com/video/wekABO_hraI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mfB2PaffkRhBfQi7 this is Mr ballen video the one found and that didn’t know about the sos is completely different dude from the one in the recording
One thing I’ve heard is that Japanese investigative efforts aren’t the best. For example, if someone is murdered and they have zero leads or evidence on who did it, it simply gets labeled a suicide and its case closed.
My Theory is that he wanted to made it look like an accident or something.
When in Fact he wanted to Sui...
Why? Because Sui... is shamed on and brings problems to your relatives in Japan.
It's a Cover-Up for his own Sui... that's why he made it look like he was looking for help
This isn’t TikTok. Suicide isn’t a curse word
if he wanted to suiii let him there alot of ronaldo fans
What bs. Suii isn't looked down upon in Japan, nor does it bring problems to families. People just believe in made up stuff about Japan
@@sailingadventurer japan is messed up, alot of incest not cousins too but both genders from brother sister mother n father
“This was found in a deep valley, when he supposed to be on the cliff side”
Well gee I wonder how it got down there
If it fell of a cliff it would be so damaged it would unusable, Which wasn't the case
@@treeeyed8578 With all due respect, you’re making up bullshit. You have no idea of the specifics of this situation. How high the cliff was etc
Try being more introspective
I miss when he did react content like this.
I mean he mostly stopped due to all the controversy with react content
@@jaze3870 Nearly 90% of the react content he did that I liked I would have literally never subscribed to had he or someone else not reacted to it. Streams like Charlie's answered their chat wanting him to react to videos that deserved to be seen by more people. Millions of them. I guess people are fine with remaining undiscovered.
@@Vespyr_ let me guess, you also believe in trickle down economics? Sry to burst your bubble bud but you sound naive.
@@Epicspacecow I just miss when he did react content. 🤷🏽♀️ I enjoyed adding new channels to my viewing schedule because they were things Charlie enjoyed and supported. That's all. You wanna fight about it? lol
@@Epicspacecowman he's not wrong. Stay theoretical. The reality is different from all the hypothetical arguments about the "bad" it does.
Not relevant to the story, but "hardwood" and "softwood" really necessarily refer to the density of the wood anymore. It did start like that, as angiosperms grow slower than gymnosperms and thus usually will have desner wood. But there are hardwood trees with lower specific desnity than softwood trees. We use softwoods in most buildings and hardwood for carving. Just random facts from a forester
As an OSRS player, the game just introduced forestry as a woodcutting expansion a few months ago, and I liked your comment. Have a good night.
Did you notice the some of the SOS logs are not on flat ground, some are on top of trees?
here is what I think, he met someone, they hiked together, this guy fell breaking his shoulder and leg, the other guy tried helping him but he couldn't move, so he (the other guy) choppes the trees to put the SOS signal, the heli misses them and the guy in the vid ends up dying because of his injuries, the other guy buries him and goes away not telling the local police because he's too scared. either he died naturally, or the had a dispute and the other guy ended up killing him with the axe and burrying him and keeping the murder weapon or ditching it in another place. SOS signal is recorded by the other guy no himself.
My theory is they didn’t make a mistake when testing the bones originally. It was most likely a woman with type o blood, and the guy calling for help wasn’t the missing guy they said did this all. Seems like 3 different people and their belongings (only one body) got found together by complete accident after the group that was found said it wasn’t their sos sign. And it was either a park ranger who is a serial killer that covered it up, or the Japanese government doesn’t want to cause panic by telling everyone Japan has a serial killer on the loose at a park. Bad PR
I was with you until the last paragraph. Why can’t it be that the third person was lost and injured as well??? Why does it have to be a coverup? Why can’t it be that there was a sloppy investigation for further bodies and that their body is still out there?
It's a lot harder to tell a body's sex after death than people think. They still misidentify older corpses all the time. If the body was out in the elements and testing wasn't great, misidentification is the most likely option.
I think that he was possibly with someone, and they cut the trees, And then Iwamura stayed at the SOS to watch for any helicopters while the other person went looking for food etc
Could there be someone living out there somewhere, and made the sos to bring attention the hiker without being able to help themselves?
It’s more likely that somebody else was out there and also needed help. If they weren’t able to help the hikers themselves, then how could they physically go through the trouble of cutting down birch and carrying it about to make an SOS sign? I give this theory a 5/10.
It was a yeti that killed him and made an SOS to lure more people in.. i don’t fuckin know man I’m stumped lmao
@TitaniumTurbine there could be another way they can't help. Maybe they didn't want anyone to see them? Some people live in the wilderness without being detected.
At least give me a 5 1/2 now right? 😃
Those Dam Beavers goin crazy out there, huh?!
As Always, Thanks For Watching.
If only trees could talk...
Trees are actually extremely heavy and difficult to cut down, so I personally cannot see one little office dude cutting down ANY tree, let alone over ten trees, dragging each one into an empty plain, WITHOUT dying of dehydration first. The best thing I could think of is maybe a hiking team (maybe outsiders or guests visiting the country) saw the skeleton and put together the SOS themselves so someone could find the body at a later time. They could have even told people afterwards, but weren't believed, or maybe they didn't care. It just looks to me like a team of people had to make the sign. No axe because they took it with them. It's not that hard to believe if it's an area people regularly get lost in, so much that there's a "fake safe rock".
yeah especially since he had broken bones. Doesnt seem believable he made the sign
@johnpatton7533 he fell off a cliff so likely that caused it
@@johnpatton7533I just wish they would say whether it was post mortem or before his death
youre either very young or have never had a job.
@@thedarkness125 I've had a variety of jobs because I'm in my late thirties so no I'm neither of your assumptions 😇
11:58 yeah you follow it downstream. if there is just a small creek follow it down stream. small creeks lead to bigger creeks or rivers(basically they lead to bigger bodies of water...most of the time) keep following downstream. rivers and bigger bodies of water will usually always lead to civilization since humans always used them for water sources or industry. at least this is what they taught us in boy scouts.
What if he didn’t cut the trees down what if someone else did and left them there and he just dragged them into place
There could easily have been some Maintenace on the mountain side that required a vehicle to machine to go past that area so workers cut down trees in the way and tossed them to the side months prior. Then the confused office worker immediately used those logs there that have been there for months to build the SOS by dragging them. Then while wandering around he slipped and fell and hurt himself giving him the injuries AFTER.
That’s true
true but i dont think those details really matter all that much tbh
nvm i see why it matters cause the dude in the video was really hung up on that for some reason lmaoooo
@@oogly--boogly I mean, how wouldn’t the cut wood matter? Answering that question of how and when would provide a lot of answers. It’s just as contextually relevant as the backpack, the tape recorder audio, the lack of missing tools.
It's chilling to think that there could have been someone else not too far away.Who was lost and needed help but was never found just gone
What if the recording was used to bait someone walking in the area to come and look for a person to help, only to be murdered...?
Lmao “birch is a advanced wood , you need a high tree cutting level” Charlie lives in his own video game
Without looking into the details myself, I’d say that Charlie was most correct in saying that the missing Hiker used a rock to cut down the trees. It’s an ancient form of an ax called an Adz. Ancient Hawaiians used those to cut down and make canoes out of Koa Trees, a much harder Hardwood than Birch, here in Hawaii. You’d be surprised how much you can actually get done, even with primitive tools.
even if that is the case, it doesn't explain the physical fitness needed. even if we just give it for granted the guy chopped ten trees down, each tree is going to be at least 500 pounds. dragging all that 100 meters to arrange in a pattern isn't humanly impossible, but it is extremely fit. which the coroner say would have been very not possible for mr.iwamura.
So he was killed and the killer made up the sos and recording to make it seem like he got either injured or lost to trow investigators of his trail.
I feel like with the work the police gotta deal with
their investigation might have been rush
does make you wonder how often
a mystery is a mystery
and how often it become a mystery due to it being poorly handy
People underestimate how dumb people can be. An office worker gets confused on a hike and concludes that the only way to survive is by building an SOS sign.
I wholly agree with you first sentence, generally speaking. There’s also elements to decision-making skills like fear, panic, desperation, and pain that can cause people to make outwardly bad decisions that they wouldn’t have made if one of those factors wasn’t in the picture.
Here's the thing follow the river seems like good advice until you realize that rivers very often lead off of cliffs and I'll tell you this there's another story similar to this one where some hikers got lost they were following a river they dropped down something pretty steep because it was following the river just for it to lead to a cliff and then they were not able to get back up and sadly they decided to take the quick way down if you get what I mean..
Not only is it clear that you lack a basic education in writing, it's also very clear you overestimate your knowledge of rivers lol
So you just assuming that every river goes down a big cliff waterfall? And that the individual would try to jump from it? Sure, seems the most common river out there for sure and the immediate solution.
... try learning about comma's
Are we sure the logs were cut? You can also burn through a log with fire. It would be helpful to see a photo of the ends of the logs to see if there are any distinct markings from tools or fire. If an ax was involved then maybe another hiker came across it and carried it away. Or maybe dude left the ax somewhere else, wherever he got injured. Like maybe he fell off a cliff and left the ax and was too injured to climb back up for it. Maybe he climbed a tree and left the ax in the tree and then fell. So many possibilities!
This straight out of a puppet combo game 😂
That is such a good idea to cover up a murder tho, like if you find a dead body out in the middle of nowhere next to an sos sign and a tape recording than the youre gonna think he just got lost. And it easily explains both the axe being gone and the lack of noise on the recording.
The answer is a simple one. There is a recluse living in that area. He tried to help injured hiker, cut the trees, made SOS sign and pretty much said, "ok, that's all I can do", then left the hiker to die. Various other artifacts from other hikers he may have tried to help, he left there, with the SOS sign, wanting to be done with all of it. Police may be aware of his presence and don't want to disturb him. Thus, case closed without a lot of follow up.
See! Simple.
Charlie is going deep into the spooky rabbithole 😂
Were the trees cut or chopped? If a cut it could be a wire saw, If chopped, not a chance.
If you go around in the woods you can usually find trees that have died and rotted and fallen on their own.
2:50 no problem bro
It's possible someone did discover the body, another hiker? They were the one who constructed the SOS. This anonymous hiker not wanting any attention devised something that they thought would lead to this persons body being discovered.
Oh! I remember this incident. It was part of the curse of Minky Momo.
Heres what happened:
-office worker lacks experience in hiking, gets lost and panics
-finds logs previously cut by forestry or whatever
-drags them out to make an sos
-records himself calling for help to play nonstop without going hoarse
-lacks exp so guesses his best bet is to stay near the huge sos instead of following the river
-at some point either dies from exposure, injury, etc
Thats it
he had broken leg and a arm tho and the trees werent close by. the fracture he had was too sever to even drag this lumber. your focusing on the least significant part. theres a body that doesnt belong to the guy with the recorder. how did they recorder and his belongings get there, where is the office workers body
The fact that the police closed the case without knowing what happened to the axe, isn't as big of an issue as it is made out to be, as there are many homicides that are solved, without the weapon ever being found. Hell, many cases are even solved without a body, these days.
It may be possible that he had stumbled onto some wood that was already cut, perhaps by someone who camped there previously, etc.
7 min in before you realize he made the SOS sign?!?!?!
maybe he didnt cut them, maybe they are just dead trees that fell maybe during strong winds or it just naturally fell
Has anyone ever thought that maybe he just used already fallen dead trees? Doesn’t necessarily mean he needed a saw for that.
there. were cut marks
@@jakemccabe2426 I actually didn’t catch that, makes sense now
3 mins in and i can absolutely say they did place it there. end of story for me lmao. lets see what the rest of the video suggests
When did binging with Babish start a commentary channel?
Sounds like they just didn't find the axe
When you start starving and dying from thirst you wont be able to scream at all towards the end so probably that and so it could play all day long. His voice would probably go horse too after a while especially if he had no water. Cotton mouth can be a killer lol
That or maybe a murder disguised as an accidental death? 🤷♂️
Well the trees could have already been cut down and he just moved them into an SOS sign.
just wanted to point out it's by barely sociable, not barley sociable. 😂😅
Bro when is he gonna do more of these
He’s not. He quit doing reaction content. This is from 3 years ago.
In pineapple express they wanted to tape their phones to a squirrel to throw off Ted. What if this guy attached the tape recorder to an animal in hopes it qould cary his message. It's explains a lot, especially why he would state his location at the end.
That seems crazy unreliable when you’re in such a large forested area, not to mention it was found in a backpack. It’s a tape recorder, so it can’t loop automatically and trusting an animal will then go and find help is also a LOT to expect. Most wild animals are skiddish and run away when they come across humans. So no, that theory doesn’t really explain a lot. That’s an objectively bad idea, especially if the person is injured and trying to find/hold down an animal to tape a recorder to their body.
@@TitaniumTurbine you must be a Big Fauna shill.
Why does it look like there is someone standing to the right of sos sign at 15:35
though ik they wouldve seen him when they landed if it really was a person
Why would he hurry the back pack with a casset of him telling you where to find him
police way back in japan is kind of incompetent. And its lucky that someone will be really committed to investigate more further though.
1 it’s entirely possible that he may have had a tool and they just never found it or maybe while he was defending himself from an animal. He had the animal with it an animal ran., 2 hardwood and softwood aren’t classifications of their hardness. It’s a misleading name generally for Evergreen and not Evergreen. There are plenty of softwoods that are harder than hardwoods. all Evergreen trees like pine trees and cedars are softwoods. 3. To explain the SOS he may have followed the basic survival rule of if you’re lost stay where you are so that way people can find you and then he had an accident.. as much as it would be fun to imagine there’s some render mystery. He likely just bet it down maiden SOS the tool was lost and he died.
In all of these videos that he reacts to how do we know the persons not just lying? What if those people just lied or forgot that they made the SOS sign? Mystery instantly solved nothing to see here.
I think someone found his bones and wanted nothing to do with it made the sos next to his bones ? I don’t know man .
why is every uploaded vod of his always have bad quality face cam lol. or just quality over all
Dimensional Rift
The people were saved after making the sos sign
did ANYONE come to think that maybe JUST MAYBE someone stole the axe from his death site and just didn't say anything??? if grave robbers are a thing, I'm pretty sure it's entirely possible for someone who knows the woods well to steal people's shit that they leave behind. an axe is an easy grab and won't likely Trace you back to somebody's death site like a wallet or personal belongings would
Heard the story from Mr Ballen
it wasn't an sos at all,it was a 505 and completely unrelated ...I assume he recorded that to save his energy you know instead of shouting himself he probably just played that...work smarter not harder right?...it's because of stuff like this I don't go hiking...forget that...
A third-party who doesnt want to be known cut the trees and yelled on the recording device.
Or maybe… just maybe, the unknown person was also lost out there and their body just wasn’t found because then investigation wasn’t thorough enough. What makes you think they didn’t want to be known? If somebody passed away while lost, they don’t really have a choice in that.
@@TitaniumTurbine Because a lot of japanese are extremely reserved and dont want to be involved. This is an actual thing.
the guy narrating kinda sounds like tuv
wow I havent even heard o this one b4 Nice find...ooh ooh I know..he a serial killer & got sick o nobody noticing how good he was gettin at it!! lol
he could have used sharp rock
Anyone else get Mr Ballen vibes???
Who loves Charlie
👇
shut up you waste of space
I feel like he was killed he may have not went there with soemone but there could've been someone on the trail the tagged along with him or kid napped him. There no way the cliff is that far away and hes screaming hes on the cliff help help. And than dies mad far away. If his bones where nore spread out than animals would've moved them given the time frame. So clearly someone killed him. Plus bo backhround noise on the tape or nothing. It didnt break when he oossible fell off it. He never uo the cliff and record im okay im safe. Its a clear case.
it sounds like someone is forcing the person to speak; when listening to the recording.
I disagree on that theory. Being in moderate to severe pain can make somebody sound like that too, along with being scared and lost. We also don’t know how long they were actually screaming before the recording and how worn out their voice might be, projecting your voice in an era with a lot of foliage can be exhausting. Lots of down-to-earth theories that make sense instead of something malicious.
@@TitaniumTurbine i agree with your response 0o0
@@lemonade6542 Huh? I’m sorry? I’m not used to people agreeing like that… Wait, so you’re not going to tell me I suck? Tell me to go touch grass? That I should have never been born?
maybe someone took the axe?
This is dumb. He probably had a small axe. Cut the trees and could have thrown or misplaced it. 5 years after, just like with anything placed out in The woods dirt covered it and it was lost. 5 years is well over enough time to do this. I’m sure they never used metal detectors to search.
Bro this new mr.ballen video weird 🤔
I guess God and Anime isn't on his side.
The bigger question is why a Japanese dude used English to write SOS if he writes in Kanji…
becasue the letters for SOS are a universal sign for distress in any language. its kinda like maritime law or aviation rules. it doesnt change by country and english is the primary language. even russian, arabic, chinese, etc... they still use a unified symbol
What if the 2 hikers that got found at the begging killed the dude who made the sos and just pretended not to know about it
16:30 but it worked
Ik what happened but I’m not telling.
..."Anime is evil".... 🙂↕️
Someone probably that SOS sign as a joke
Nobody cuts birch wood and makes a large SOS sign as a joke. Do you think making an SOS sign is funny? What exactly is the joke?
@@TitaniumTurbineTeenage me would have thought that was great. Getting out into nature and making something. Try thinking from other peoples perspectives instead of just your own
MR BALLEN did it better with this story
Stupid ass theory at the end😂😂
Sos means save our souls, why are they saying sos in Japan?
because it's convenient
no its not save our souls, its a distress signal in morse code
Dmmmm 39 views I’m earlyyyy
Crazy cult
why is charlie so sarcastic and negative in this stream
Done by Japanese gov to increase tourism??? Or some masive cover-up thing they are hiding
How exactly does creepy stories involving SOS signs increase tourism? And for what? The park is accessible by all already, what exactly would be the benefit here? If you’re going to create cover-up conspiracies and other brain-rotted theories, then at least generate good ones. You know what’s far more likely than ANY cover-up material? Another person that was out there and in need of rescue.
It’s not that deep
hahahaha ooooh noooo, imagine going to a SOS sign.... but take the wrong people :D
Charlie should watch mrballen
Thats a podcast not videos
He was murdered and they staged the lost hiker situation
Were the trees "chopped" for sure? My bet is the trees that were used were already dead and downed and all he had to do was drag them into SOS formation.
3 years ago.