How to: Polishing 2K clear by hand
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Your paint on model looks better than paint on my car :( .
Great video! I use micro mesh and sand it down to the highest grit it came in the box. Then using a dremel rotary tool with your polishing buffer at 5000 rpm, meguairs scratch x 2.0, ultimate Polish then hand waxed with ultimate wax!
Great video again. I had this problem too when I would polish Testor's wet look clear. Polishing up to a 12,000 grit helps alot, and alternating directions of sanding with each grit helps too. So sand horizontal with the 2000, then vertical with the 4000, etc. Also, multiple applications of a dedicated scratch remover helps with the haziness and isn't as abrasive as the rubbing or polishing compounds. The rotary tool to polish turned out great! High risk high reward
I feel your frustration, but I'm glad it turned out great. Maybe a higher grit would prevent those fine scratches in the end? I mean there are grits up to 12000 just for finishing purposes
Ive always used a polishing pad you could buy at the local automotive store which is around 4" in diameter and put it on a dewalt 20v drill and polish it. Never had an issue. I use automotive paint and clear for bodyshops and the 3M step 2 polish. Using automotive paint and clear it can withstand the speed of a power drill. Obviously i dont go full throttle.
Sweet, I like happy endings. There is something here for all of us to learn from. Thanks for sharing! BTW: Turn out very nice! Danny
great job....your models are first class...can wait to get my skills up..but any how good work always enjoy watching your videos...
I bet you would LOVE "sujibdorido"'s compound set! Along with the glass wax they sell I have not come across a better compound. I've tried all Japanese ones except "fine molds" and all western compounds including automotive brands.
You will have to purchase in Japan I use hobbysearch but HLJ has discounted shipping.
FYI.. EMS shipping is 3days and about 12-15dollars which is great compared to micro-marts ridiculous shipping prices!
Reminds me of polishing my combat boots and jungle boots with kiwi shoe polish in Marine Corps bootcamp.
I do gunpla and I appreciate that you are showing how to fix mistakes! Most tutorials always show how it works perfectly I guess human nature is to hide mistakes.
Have u ever considered doing a Gundam? Lots of US modelers have misconception with snap kits... I dare to say bandai produces molds as well as tamiya and possibly even better tolerances. I'm starting to think the negativity with gundams aren't because it's snap kit but you have 500 parts to paint separately, seems to scare the old timers. ;(
good tutorial on polishing, this is what I use on 1k clear and it turns out really Shiney
Excellent video as always. Thank you
Ive see this achieve by dry sanding with just 2k sandpaper then polish, without wet sanding seems to work good.
you read my mind mate did the same thing last week good stuff
Nice save. Love that color.
looks scary sanding it that much
Even with the Vegas elevator music I could watch you all day. You stripping the Karnuba somehow to do the rubber work? Forget that, I'll wait n see.
+Steve Watts I'm just leaving it on. The paint does not get effected by it at all on this small scale atleast.
Those 7 dislikes don’t need a car
Im curious if you ever found out what grit the scratch X is equivalent to? I just finished wet sanding my model using 6000, 8000, 12000 as the final 3 of 9 sand papers i used. Followed the sanding with the scratch X but didnt see any difference from the before and after applying the scratch X.
Hope to get a answer from ya ! How did you get the midnight purple colour? What are the mixtures?? Doing a r32 . Your 34 looks great 👍
I bought it from zero paints. Of the shelf, pre mixed
The grit paper is the "regular" wet/dry grit paper and not the PK-2000 ~ PK-3000 ( which is the European style grit system) - and translates to a much higher number in "regular" grit paper here in the US - correct ?
Nicely done.
An interesting video. If fitting transfers, at what point would these be done?
Before clear
I went out and bought all the same supplies 60$ + only difference was I used an alclad clear coat. I completely ruined the finish. I was stoked to try this too. Feels like I wasted my money. Any body have any ideas? I'm guessing it was the kind of clear I used.
Interesting question: is that possible to polishing a glossy black acrylic surface? Without clear coat. I want to make a chromy finish on a surface and i know that i have to have a glossy black surface for it. But i see that the paintig was not really really smoothy. That's why i thinking to polishing it a litle. I dont know if it can be a good idea.
soon, we'll start to ceramic coat our model cars!
Very cool out come
Why do you use the Scratch 2x as stage 1?
At the vendor website it is sold as a product for isolated scratches (like a quick fix solution).
Would only the Stage 2 and 3 be enough?
Decals are applied after top coat right? Will the sanding and polishing damage the decals or should the decals be applied after polishing
The decals are applied either before the clearcoat. Or after polishing
nice purple colour on a z tune is it autoart my dremil and polish mops are on the way my job is hopefully remove paint rash from some of my diecast
Do you only sand and polish final coats only if there are imperfections ? I feel that it is a last resort since there’s a high chance the sanding will burn through the paint and it’s hard to sand near trim and details. Your final product looks great !
Correct
try autoglym super resin. it has fillers for plastic finishes.
Nice video........Lesson one, unless your trying to take care of an imperfection there is absolutely no need to ever sand before polishing.
Excellent work. I have just started following your videos. very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to show your results. I have just finished painting and clearing a 2 tone 59 impala yesterday. I'm waiting to start the wet sanding very small sections of orange peal. Do you recommend waiting a week as a rule? My clear coat is Dupont A-7480s
+Mark Keen just to be safe a week is always good
Hi, can you give me please the link to the polishing pad for the proxxon dremel? Cant find the correct one.
I agree with sohchx below...going to 12,000 will save you a lot of work.
Hi!, if I dont have clear coat over the paint, can it be polished too?, or it has to be clear coated for polishing?
It has to be clearcoated
"Wipe it off" means.. just wiping it off with towel? doesn't it(compound or wax) need to be washed out with water? Is this done after applying clear coat or before clear coat. Sorry for rushing out of questions, and Thank you for the video clip! this was really helpful.
Whipe it off means just whiping it off with a towel, yes.
it can be washed, but does not need to if its not in the panel lines, i would preffer to do this after i finish the final wax, then wash it.
polishing is done after clear.
Thank you a lot!
I’ve seen your other video series where you do an entire build. You use Valejo for some models and Zero Paints for other models. Either way, those aren’t acrylic paints, right? I’m fairly new to airbrushing model bodies (used to use Testors Enamel painting cans) but every single time I use an acrylic paint, regardless of brand, the paint will always chip at some point in the build. Even after glossing the crap out of it, it will still peel somewhere. Sanded, primer painted, sanded for paint grip, prepped, painted in many light coats... I have never gotten a clean build using the process you always use. The only difference is that you don’t use acrylic paints. Any thoughts as to what I’m not doing right? As mentioned, I used to always use enamel sprays, sometimes not even laying down primer first. I decided to try airbrushing bodies since I can work on smaller parts without blasting the pieces across the garage floor.
They are laquer paints. Try gravity color or zero paints;)
Tom,Having used the polish etc. to return the shine to the paintwork, is there any possible issues when applying further paint coats (i.e. black bumper details etc.) at all?thanks, and keep up the good work!Andy
I would do those first. Then the waxing. Or remove the wax/polish from those areas with alcohol
can you please tell me how the body has a nice shiny look. did you use a shiny metal aluminum or metallic color in then weirdo purple above it then finish it off with a clear coat gloss
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nice tutorial
Can I ask how many coats of 2K clear you applied on this and how much time elapsed between them?
3.
5 to 10 minutes in between
i dont know understand why did u use 2000 sanding papar to sand off the shiny effect?
Because the surface was uneven and bumpy, with the 2000 grit i sanded the bumps out and made the paint smooth.
3000 is not a high enough grit to get the results that you are looking for. You need to go up to at least 12,000 to get every single scratch out before polishing. Also wet sanding in a circular motion as upposed to sanding from left to righ or up and down will result in far less scratches being left behind.
What grit u reccon i start with then? is 2000 european good?
How do you use brush to paint some parts like exhaust without painting on some other places?? Is it just experience and practice, or there are some tricks and technics in it??
+Tony Liu Just basic experiance and practice.
What polish would be best to bring the shine back on to fast and furious cars and diecast models of Optimus Prime trucks as I have a diecast collection I'd like to bring the shine back to life
start with a very very fine polish, as you run the risk of damaging all of the stickers/decals if you use a rougher polish
@The Scalemodeling Channel okay I will do that when I find some polish what brand of polish would be best
@@philmcfarlane5023 probably something from your local car parts shop
@@TheScalemodelingChannel okay I'll make a trip to one there's plenty in my home town
hi, i tried to polish with polishing wax, looks perfect shiny on the flat surfaces, but the wax is still in the panell lines .. looks really bad, white polishing wax in the panell lines of a dark grey car. do you have any ideas how to get it out without scratching the paint ?
Use a soft brush and some water ;)
Still enjoyed and liked the video, but the steps to polish 2k by hand end with machine polishing. But agree that with the difference in the finish, that machine polishing is a no brainer. More questioning the choice of title.
I don’t agree,
The video is about doing the polishing by hand. In the end you see what i achived by doing it by hand.
Then i mention i was not satisfied in doing it that way. And talk about how i ended up doing it with the machine.
Not showing any of the process what so ever. Just what i ended up with. To compare to the hand polishing.
Yes it ticks the boxes to match what you said but that's not what I mean. It would be like having a video called making a car into a boat. Going through all the steps then concluding a boat would be better rendering everything that proceeded it not as useful.
I like using up to 12000 grit then use Tamiya fine compound and then there polishing compound before using the mequiars products. Sometimes even using the fine compound with 12000 grit but super light. We're did you get the polishing attachment for the rotary tool?
Ebay
Hey, just a quick question: I clear coated my model with Zero Paint 2k and gave it kinda three coat (5/10 min drying time between each). I'm really scared about doing a thing like sandpaper (some orange peal appeared on the finish). So: how much can I sand it? And which to use? I got some 1.5k, 2.k, 3k sponge, 6k sponge and all tamia's compound. Thanks, your channel really inspire me.
You can never know how much you can sand. Thats always the risk of polishing plastic models. If its a super light orange peel. Use 6k and the compounds
That was fast! Thanks a lot!
Hey there,
Big fan of your work, got a question though.
When I polish my models after clear with the McGuires scratch remover and other waxes (same stuff you use) all those compounds and waxes get stuck in the panel lines and look really bad.
How do i get that stuff out of the panel line? Also keep in mind that I deepen and widen the panel lines the same exact way you do before painting them so all those waxes are stuck there really deep.
Please help
Get a soft bristle (tooth)brush and some hot/warm(ish) water and just carefully brush it out and dry if off ;)
+The Scalemodeling Channel thanx will give it a try
or a soft paint brush and warm(ish) water
My question is that is it okay if some dust or fine particles get trapped underneath the paint on the initial coat? I figure that it's okay since it gets sanded down anyway prior to polishing. Because I don't want to have to sand and repaint especially if it's such a small blemish
Dominic Mieszczanski yup. Its fine
What is the dust was under the paint layer and not the clear layer? Do I need to to the same on the paint layer or apply clear first?
Sand and repaint
@@TheScalemodelingChannel alright, thanks😭
Or just leave it and accept that its there. The chance it will happen again is big.
Hi, might be an odd place to ask the question but I have a Mclaren MP4-30 that has been cleared 2K, there are a few little bit left to attach like camera pods and i'm wondering what sort of glue you would use to attach parts painted in acrylic lacquer (AK) to the body in 2K (Splash). I am thinking a very small amount of CA gel, but happy to be corrected before the kits needs correcting :-)
bob smith industries super gold +
@@TheScalemodelingChannel Fantasic, I have managed to track down some stockists of BSI here in NZ and even managed to find one that has Super Gold Plus, a few had the Super gold Odourless.
So I'm taking it that this is to correct imperfections in the clear coat correct?
Yes
did you spray paint it again after you sanded it down and waxed it?
No, if you do that all the polishing and waxing would be done for nothing and you can start all over again.
what would happen if used polishing compound without sanding 2000-3000grit
AnyOtherName LikeMashugana not much. As those are super light abbrasives
How long from when you spray the 2k clear can you wet sand and polish it?
Basically how long before the 2k is hard enough to sand on?
A day or 3/4 to a week
And for the power buffing, that is only for the scratch-x and polish? The wax is still by hand?
@@efoster988 you can do waxing by hand, as its not a polish just a coating
Hi love ur work i recently start doin models scale 1.24 and ive baught cheep compressor and the other stuff air brush and that but my question i need help with is i baught humbrol model paint and tinner for air brush but wat would u reccomend for paint and tinner mix to come out good is it 1 part paint 2 part tinnerand how do i measure 1 part and 2 part or watever it is i mean how much paint and tinner exactly do i use .. plz thanks any help is appreciated
every bottle of paint is different. so i don't use a set delution. I make the paint as thin as milk, then it sprays well.
You should see my vedio on polishing. Nice car by the way.
could you tell us where did you got this polishing bits ? i try to use the dremel one and it mess up my pait job :/
nice video, nice kit as all ways !
+MrAndreppc The dremel ones are for metal polishing, i use the one from Proxxon. i bought them at conrad.nl
well, this will be hard to find here haha, nice pait job !
what type of cloth or rag are you using to polish
+bigdee84 A micro fiber or a cloth from scalemotorsport
Would this polishing compound work with Testors enamels?
I think it will, yes
wow nice
so do you paint then laqure before you use grit
+james mccaughey yes.
Where did you buy the little dremel tool polishing bit? I can't find any that small, they're all for angle grinders or dremel ones, but rough for polishing metals.
Ebay
Ah nice I found one in a shop in my country. I'll get some of them. Also I'm getting a 3M fast cut action paste, the one that's specifically designed to remove 2500 grit marks without cutting deep into the clear and reducing the thickness too much.
What product did you end up buying exactly? I'm planning on doing some similar projects.
BrianOfAteionas
Ended up using just Sonax Profilne EX 04-06 yellow polishing compound. It works best with microfiber cloths and Sonax polishing cloths. Can get perfect gloss from 2500 grit sanding.
Hi, can you use Tamiya panel line accent color on Zero paints 2k clear?
Yes
how many coat of paint did you did?
qwert54965 3
does it work on diecast cars
It works on pretty much anything painted. but be carefull though!
do you use hardener on the 2k clear?
Yes, Otherwise it will not harden
If you have some light orange peel after you do your base coat, should you proceed with the clear coat? Thx, The MacAttack
Yes
Won't the orange peel show through or is there a way to fix it?
With light colors, yes. With dark colors, no. No way to fix it, other than starting over
It's that yellow Corvette C7.R, I painted it Lemon Yellow. Should I Try to sand it out before applying the clear coat? I was planning on using that Dupont A7480S spray that Dr. Cranky is always talking about. I don't know why I am having so much trouble with this acrylic paint. I'm using Tamiya with Tamiya thinner. I admit that I am only a beginner But I've used rattle cans for years and never had any problems. I bought this H model Paasch and thought I would start out with acrylics then move on to enamels and then urethanes, But I can't even get past acrylics. This is the fourth model that I've had to trash. Any Ideas what I might be doing wrong? I know that's a lot to ask but I'm so close! Thx, The Mac Attack
If it is a solid color like yellow, just clear it, the orange peel won't show through if you polish the clear.
The problem might be that the paint is still a bit to thick. Try thinning it a bit more
I assume these are plastic models, any advise for die cast? Would you use same sanding and priming technique? Thanks
tewminator exactly the same ;)
Hello! Can you please tell me how long are you waiting between scratch x and step 2? Because when i apply the step 2, the glossy effect of the scratch x dissapear and i dont know why :/...
I don’t wait inbetween
The Scalemodeling Channel Ok thank you. And maybe you can help me on why the shine dissapear with the 2nd step? It looks like it take off the scratch x
Maybe the step 2 you use is rougher than the scratchx
The Scalemodeling Channel it's exactly the same as yours. I have the same 3 steps as yours
Maybe skip some of the steps. And or clean inbetween steps
Will decals stick after doing all this?
+Chris Wheaton They will, though i would advise to use some setting solution like Micro Set
+The Scalemodeling Channel Awesome thanks for the answer
What is orange peel?
+Tylooshi Hard to explain, easier to show. But I will give it a go. Orange peel is typically the result of improper painting technique, and is caused by the quick evaporation of thinner, incorrect spray gun setup (e.g., low air pressure or incorrect nozzle), spraying the paint at an angle other than perpendicular, or applying excessive paint. When the paint drys it resembles the skin of an orange, thus the name orange peel.
+dcinhere thank you!
What does mean of 2K or 1K?
The type of clearcoat
@@TheScalemodelingChannel What's the difference between 1k and 2k?
@@kokasaida 1K is softer and not super glossy. 2K is a harder stronger finish with more gloss
@@TheScalemodelingChannel thanks so much
Why does this look simpler than it actually is!?!? Lol dammit, I'm working on the Chrysler turbine and it's like they put the fine turbine lettering so small and detailed that when you apply any paint it just ruins it...
it's called float coat I believe.
Flow coat, yes
Question : If i got some bubbles after the clear coat, sanded it down do I have to polish it? or can I just do another clear coat
You can sand it down with 3000 grit sandpaper and apply more clear.
Thanks!
tamiya do a polishing compand
+roy shaw ikr
Nice save bra
can i not use the sandpaper sonce in the pj we dont have it
I watch on here gunman he paints candy paint hates buffing. he lightly sands then reclears. yes you have to know your sand paper grits.
Thanks 4 that🙏🙏🙏 EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED!!!🙏🙏🙏
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SO basically the reason for your succes was was the polish machine?
+Miaminight pretty much
I'm asking you because I'm in same boat. I have a huge model car painted with 2k clear coat. I have sanded down with 2000 to get rid of orange peel. Then I polished and waxed it but I'm still not happy with end results not to speak of the car black so its even more complicated
+Miaminight 2000 is not a fine enough grit. Try going up to 120000 to save its. Though you will still see scratches
great video!
I have a question for you.
Would you use the same process if you used a 1k clear coat?
I tried doing everything you did in the video and it looks like shit. I don't have 3000 grit but i tried finishing with 2000. I even have the same products. scratch x, polish, and wax. All the scratches are visible and there is hardly any shine :/
The problem is that finishing with 2000 grit is not a high enough grit. Even after i finished in 3000 grit wich you can see at the end of the video i am not happy and i moved on the machine polishing.
Was gonna watch but lost interest half way thru 2nd commercial
Blame youtube, not me 😉