Countess vs. Crawley | Downton Abbey
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- We all love a bit of Dowager Countess and Isobel Crawley conflict, and during the final season of Downton we saw a lot of more of it after Violet, was informed of a plan that the Royal Yorkshire County Hospital wished to take over the Downton Cottage Hospital. Violet being the traditionalist she is, was outraged by this and it just so happened that her biggest rival was also her long-term companion, Isobel. Isobel believed that the take-over could bring better treatments and equipment to the Downton villagers. The pair eventually reconciled over the shared shock of Isobel's invite to Lord Merton's, son's wedding.
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“Does it ever get cold up on the moral high ground?” Oh my God, that is the BEST line. The Dowager Countess has some of the best lines.
Holly Brewer yes. Maggie Smith was phenomenal. God, I love this show and everything about it, everyone in it. It is a nostalgic look at the change the 20th century brought to Britain and the joys and hardships of society a century ago. My favourite line Violet ever says in all of the episodes and the movie was: 'It happens every time! You give these people a little big of power and it goes to their head like a stiff drink!‘ But she was always great, and she does have a gentle heart. Remember when Sybille died 💔😭
@@MFTH-cam683i agree with you on her best line ..it was phenomenal ..but then again she might just be the best character in the show.
What does that line mean?
@@farhanm2508 it means that she’s up on her high horse, or that she thinks she’s better than everyone else.
That was actually SAVAGE!!
"To insult a physician in the open street!" "You've read too many novels and seen too many moving pictures."
Another moment I love that isn’t included here:
Isobel: “you only say that to sound clever”
Violet: “I know…you should try it”
"When we unleash the dogs of war, we must go where they take us!"
And Isobel's face afterwards... LOL!!
Dowager Countess was absolutely furious jajajaja
That line is one to put in the arsenal
priceless!
It's just that wee sigh/groan she does at the end of that scene! Love it.
Violet is such a pot stirrer and I love it. Setting Denker and Spratt against each other was priceless. And so was her reaction to Spratt becoming a magazine columnist.
She loves watching them squirm
@@twc3546 She loves outplaying them, more like. She's old and something of an elitist but she can still fight.
I wish she had gone trough with firying Denker though
When she insulted the dokter in public
@@EstherHulst-Artist yes! That was not her place to voice her opinion on an open street.
That scene where she tasted the soup that was terrible and she acted like it was the best broth she very had....Violet not liking to be predictable was the whole season for me! 😂
The Dowager and Lady Crawley showed us that 2 very strong willed, very intelligent ladies could disagree in the strongest terms, holding diametrically opposing views and yet become fast friends and allies where it really counted. They remained civil in manner and tongue throughout. Underneath it all, we saw that they truly cared about each other and one another's good.
Not a lot of people have this kind of mentality unfortunately
It was a quality often missing in modern days, being able to actually have disagreements that could be deeply personal while being civil. Further, Lady Violet is not incorrect to be concerned about the loss of local input into the medical care, and not for issues power, as Mrs. Crawley accuses. Faceless and unapproachable bureaucracy is in nobody's best interest.
Lady Crawley? There is no such character. The family name is Crawley. The Title is Earl and Countess Grantham. Isabelle is Mrs. Crawley. Her husband was a cousin of the Earl. Second cousin, I believe.
One of my favourite exchanges between these two:
Isobel: “I’m afraid I’m a feeble substitute for the entire Crawley Family”
Violet: “Mmm yes, but you’re better than nothing”
Hahahahaha 😂 🤣 😅
😃😃😃😃😅😅😅
Isobel: "How warming you make that sound"
“Sometimes it’s good to rule by fear.” I just lost it there. I love it.
and that has basis from "The Art of War"
The face Isobel pulls after that is priceless. She’s in utter shock
The Dowager was ahead of her times.
If it was now she would be leader of the Tories. There would be no competition, there all spinless.
If I withdrew my friendship from everyone who spoke ill of me, my address book would be empty. #EPIC
Why is this so true tho
It's almost the fifth time that I watch exactly this video to just hear this line!
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@magnet2593 like same. So many times 😂
I love it
"If you can't say anything helpful, Robert, please stay silent." Ha!
I love that! Everyone including her children are fair game for her snark.
His face when she says it 🤣
Granny Violet definitely one of the most interesting characters in television history. I love her friendship with Isobel, they care but also shady to each other. Wish I have a friend like that when I get old. I respect the writer to make their story to be outside of the family sometimes but still interesting and not make them like lonely old women.
I also love Isobel and Violet's friendship and watching it evolve over the course of the series. Their final scene in particular was both poignant and funny. You could tell that they loved each other but also drove each other crazy.
That my friend is called respect. They respect each other, that's so hard to come by in 2021
Dowager has very best lines, delivered with absolute perfection of Maggie Smith.
The lines are good, but Maggie Smith’s delivery is what makes them stupendous!
"When we unleash the dogs of war, we must go where they take us." Love that line.
"Does it ever get cold in the moral high ground?"
You butchered a wonderful line. It is "Does it ever get cold UP ON the moral high ground".
@@michaelreilly3513 how is that butchering.. you said the same thing using a different preposition.
And especially ironically you also didn't get it right, It's "Does it ever get cold ON the moral high ground"
@@brod515 UP ON is correct, ON is correct, in the moral etc is incorrect, because one can't be inside the 'high ground' one has to be on it, and being UP means you are higher. It is a hypothetical piece of land which is UP higher that the piece of land you are standing on. Do you get it now dear?
@@michaelreilly3513 It's a youtube comment, not a scholarly article. If you get that uppity every time someone misquotes something on youtube, you'll be spending a lot of time replying to comments rather than watching the stupid video in question. And for the record, don't say "do you get it now dear?" in the future because you just sound like an asshole.
@@jeremybearimy3487 A youtube article is not real life then? Who made the you ruler of comments and how 'uppity' I am allowed to get? Go take your self righteous bile and have a lie down dear. I will do as I please and need no description of what my arsehole (correct British spelling) sounds like. Do YOU get it now dear? :D
Lady Mary: "Really Granny how can you say I'm too worldly but Sybill isn't worldly enough." "You cannot be so contrary."
Dowager Countess: "I'm a Lady, Mary. I can be as contrary as I choose."
Choose. Contrary as I choose.
Just love her
Mary, Mary, quite contrary!
@@buddyobbard2176 How does your garden grow
The Dowager's favorite line for me; "My father always said, if reason doesn't work, try violence."
"...try force"
Force, not violence
"If I withdrew my friendship from everyone who'd spoken ill of me, my address book would be empty."
*Same Violet. Same.*
“Does it ever get cold up on the moral high ground?”
That's what you say when you know the other person is right but you still want to win the argument.
No, it's what you say when someone has become tiresome in their self-righteousness
Right is different than good.
@@karenorton4146 Winner! You win the interwebs for the day. I can't understand how viewers are unaware of Isobels missionary zeal.
Although I have seen this clip many times, each time I literally laugh out loud. I love the Dowager and Isobel. They are the best. The Dowager's mannerisms and noises following her spot-on witty lines are hilarious. 😂🤣😂🤣
"A peer in favor of reform, is like a turkey in favor of Christmas."
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂- another favorite “violetism”
So true.
God, Mrs. Crawley's facial expressions and reactions are G e n i u s 😂😂😂 I loved these two and enjoyed them most, more than I did the Crawley sisters. Most relatable and the subjects of envy.
"Did you drink at luncheon?"
☠️☠️☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was a scream!
One of the many great conflicts in this series.
"Did you drink at luncheon ?" LMAO Downton Abbey's queen of thorns
Lord Merton: “I’m glad we agree on this.”
Isobel: “Don’t lets make to much of it.”
I love Lord Merton and Isobel!❤️ I think they are so cute together! I’m so very happy they ended up together!
They were cute and it was even cuter when isobel rescued him and whisked him away from larry and that awful daughter in law
And Violet engineered it!
The scene where the Dowager fires her maid had me in splits 🤣
I never liked Denker: she was the female version of Mr. Barrow with lots of O'Brien thrown in.
Isabel: ....cousin Violet would’ve kept us away if she could.
Violet: Don’t give me ideas. 😅
That was one of my favorite lines 😂
this is the thing that viewers miss. Isobel often acuses Violet of agendas she has none of. I'd find it very irritating in a 'friend' of mine.
“I’d rather hope Mrs Crawley regrets what she’s said already” 😂😂😂
Violet: WHO BROKE THE COFFEE MAKER? HMM? WHO DID IT.
Sprat and Denker immediately accuse one another.
Violet looks into the camera: I broke it. I burned my hand so I assaulted it.
I predict they will soon be at each other's throats, good it was getting too chummy around here.
Now that’s an image; Ron Swanson meeting a British aristocrat
lol I'd want to see a "Downton Abbey" + "The Crown" version of that meme
@6:20
Violet: Did you drink at luncheon?
Isobel: No I did not. Which you know very well since we were together.
Violet: Not all the time.
😎
That one was the end of me 😂😂😂
The English insult the opposition with such politeness and sharp wit.
The "novels and moving pictures" part always cracks me up.
If I withdrew my friendship from everyone who spoke ill of me, my address book would be empty. I love the Dowager.
My mother will never be dead whilst the Dowager still stands.
This series was a Masterpiece. There has been nothing like it since it last aired.
"Did you drink at luncheon? " hahahhaaaa
I love this point in their conflict. Though they’re very angry at each other and disagree, and that though Isobel wants their friendship intact despite it and Violet’s friendship she claims to have conditions, they still have tea together and they forgive each other in the end for all the petty insults. And Violet realised she needs to bury the hatchet anyway and also even do a favour for Isobel
Violet just likes to challenge people and have her own ideas challenged as well. Perhaps being an older woman of a prominent family in the early 20th century you don't really get to do much or experience things the way men at the time could. Wether she likes it or not Violet knows that Isobel will undoubtedly be in her life for a long time if Mary and Matthew are to marry. In later seasons Violet admits that despite their bickering she does see Isobel as a friend.
As a fan looking back in retrospect, I loved this storyline, but i could never understand why Violet was in charge of the hospital. Half the time, it seemed like Isobel would and should be suited for the role since she's practiced medicine and can get more in touch with patients. Don't forget that one time she nursed Violet back to health all on her own.
Long-held tradition. Violet's was mostly a figurehead position because her husband, the late Earl, had donated the land and the seed money to build the hospital, and overseeing philanthropic causes was the realm of well-born and well-married British Ladies. That it persisted even when more suitable candidates were available is, in part, due to the intractability and ossification of the British upper class and peers, and in part because it would have been the same members of the upper classes and peers who had the means to donate meaningful sums of money, with Violet's Rolodex full of such people. It's the same reason people who sit on big non-profit institution boards (museums, universities, etc.) are usually very wealthy: they buy their way in and the rest of the institution relies on the connections of board members to raise money.
Isobel, even though she'd been in the village for over a decade by this time, was also considered an outsider because she hadn't been born or lived there her whole life and had more progressive ideas, flouting convention all along, and that all worked against her.
@@dergluckliche4973 Got you. Thanks for the context.
The Rules and Rituals of the Victorian and Edwardian era.
For the same reason that members of the current royal family are on the many boards or what have you of many organizations. Nothing to do with qualification and everything to do with their position/title.
Status ruled in those days
Mrs Crawley: "...I suspect she's quite a tough nut" referring Miss Crookshank
Cousin Violet: "And I'm a quite a tough nut cracker!"
ZING FOR DAYS!!!!🤣🤣🤣
A scene with Lady Olenna and the Dowager Countess would be a dream come true.
omg I love it when Violet laughs with such amusement
“Sometimes it’s Good to Rule by Fear”
Minerva McGonagall🐈
Isobel's face XDD
She not right 🤣🤣🤣#savage
“Oh, l wondered when we’d hear from you” 😂😂
@8:10
*"Too Many Moving Pictures"*
Ahah She means MOVIES Children!😂😋😁👌🏿
Moving pictures are going to ruin the younger generation.
"I never knew anyone with such reforming zeal. It must be like wearing a tira round the clock."
My favorite was violet and Isabel busting lord Merton out when Amelia was holding him hostage for the inheritance
Lady Grantham's ripostes are like little incendiary bombs: they burn long and slow, and leave the target gutted.
...I cannot say how much I enjoyed seeing the correct use of ‘riposte’ in your comment...:)!
I have to say that my mother will never be dead whilst Lady Grantham is still around.
@@suzannereilman4516 It's always a pleasure to see language properly used. Too many people use text speak or have no idea of grammar or syntax.
The queen of "slow burn"!🤣🤣
Absolutely LOVE these two!!!! 💜 There arguing but really loving each other is perfect and it shown amazingly via these AMAZING actress!
We all love Violet because she is so spirited and crisp…and we all assume someone would automatically have these come backs…imagine the work done between the writers to come up with these dialogues.
My Grandmother had a very quick wit. She did come out with these crisp responses and lib, and regularly.
Isobel: "You'll stop at nothing to get your own way. Isn't that the truth?"
Dowager: "Indeed. It is a quality I share with Marlborough, Wellington and my late mother."
I'm dead! LMAO
I just miss so much their clever conversations
Maggie Smith is a great actress...
I really miss this duo. Thank you for uploading this :)
What I loved the most about there friendship was how their conflicting views never put a wedge between them.
“Did you drink at luncheon?” 🤣
I love when these two go at it with each other. I suspect they are more alike than they realize...more like sisters even and through it all they have remained tight. There is no shaking their bond.
I absolutely love them together!!! Best friend goals💀😂😂
Spratt: "Don't worry Ms. Dinker, I've got a copy of the 'Lady' upstairs."
I love that these two go at each other, but they are the best of friends. Lady Grantham was the one, who pushed Isabel and Dickinson Murton towards each other in the first place. Her later reluctance to see them marry wasn't, as Mary stated, that Isabel would be a Lady, while Violet was reduced to being the Dowager. Violet realized if her best friend got married, she wouldn't see her as often. Tho still a motivation of jealousy, she loves Isabel like a sister. They are, in fact, the older versions of Mary and Edith.
Completely agree, but I'd say they differ from being a Lady Mary and Edith in that they both care for each other enough to maintain their other friendship conversations and all alongside their bickering and disagreements.. Lady Mary and Edith are very different and can't seem to go at each others throats, but then help each other out in the same moment.. Don't know, just my humble cents!
I consider the Lady Dowager to be the central character, absolutely wonderful, absolutely love her 🥰👏
It would be funny if that was the way the scripts were written - Violets story arc and how do we fit everybody elses in around it. That's a fab insight.
5:52 Dang, Crawley got him good pointing out he cares more about his ego than his patients 😆😂🤣
8:14🤣 is the best part of the argument.
I loved it when the Dowager asked Matthew, "What is a weekend?"
My mother will never be dead when the dowager carries on.
I just loved the interactions between these two! Fantastic writing and acting!
Sometimes I wish I could translate whatever Lady Grantham says to my native language and use it as a linguistic weapon but alas my attempts are more often than not futile.
Give it a shot anyway. Your written English and vocabulary are leaps and bounds better than many of the native speakers on TH-cam.
@@dergluckliche4973 Thank you my friend. Though I guess a bit of work on punctuation is needed😀.
Yeh to bara mushkil kaam hai. Lekin main phir bhi apni tooti phooti Urdu main translate karkay inkay quotations use karta hun 😅
@Kuchi Kopi Hahahaha no. I replied the gentleman in his native language.
i have to admit lady violet can have a real viper's tongue. Good gawd, she can come out with them...! 😶
I see a lot of Mary in the Dowager, I wouldn’t be surprised Lady Mary will be that granny 😂
I couldn't help myself but laughed until I was aching after I paused the episode on where Violet chastised Denker over calling Clarkson a traitor. For all the sass she's delivered all series long, this distraught tirade of hers over her maid insulting a colleague was the one that just really left me in stitches throughout the whole binge.
Violet & Isobel so remind me of late great grandmothers. Eyes still sharp, so nothing got past them; sharp strong wit so if anyone of us thought we could out think them, ha that will be the day. Both of my grandmothers timing was amazing, always knowing when & where to interact, interject their minds. But most of all loving, women to their family & to that to each other. Both my grandmothers were truly sisters to one another. I am truly blessed to have that in my life.
"Shall we have some tea?" Lol
I love both of them so much omg I cannot choose between them
8:24 Gotta say that part had me on the floor gasping for air
Isobel's face!
I am dying
"If I had to choose principle over logic, I'd choose principle every time."
Principal:
adjective: main, most important.
noun: the Head of a school.
Principle:
noun: a moral value.
@@akap9612 Thanks for the lesson in English Lit.
@@m.layfette6249 You bet. I didn't mean to get all preachy. 😳
@@akap9612 You're just channelling your inner Isobel Crawley. 💜 Even the Dowager Countess can appreciate that. Though SHE would never admit it in public.
I love the Dowager. Truly the best character in the entire series.
Maggie Smith is a treasure that this world isn't worthy of!
I wish they would make a prequel about violet ... her narrating her memoirs and the show going over that decadent time period
If The Dowager wrote a memoir, I would buy it in a blink!
Julian Fellows has an absolute treasure trove of a wit for writing. I am fully American (native Floridian), but love just about any and everything British period pieces. Up until I discovered 'Downton Abbey' (albeit only recently on 'Peacock' due to unavailability otherwise) , my absolute favorite had been the 1995 version of "Pride and Prejudice" with Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle. I have loved Dame Maggie Smith in several of her many film roles, but none have given me the sheer joy and laughter as did Dowager Countess Lady Violet Grantham. The entire entity would've been a boring wash, imho, without her genius casting. Further, I was sorely tempted to forgo watching after season three because of Dan Stevens' decision to leave the show, as Matthew and Mary's storyline was so integral. However, I pressed on and, overall, am glad I did. I admit that I am a huge Matthew Goode fan. However, a lot of good that does me, as he had only a last minute bit part in the movie, and all indications point out that he won't make an appearance in the sequel. Very disappointing.
I adore Matthew Goode but I really didn't find him a good match for Mary but still, I enjoyed seeing him all the same. Great actor and immensely easy on the eyes.
the show is cinematically and historically fantastic, the performances are nothing less than extraordinary, the portrait of that society might -or not- be accurate, but the arrogance of that people is nothing compared to the adoration of those who approve of it in this day and age.
I love their friendship!
The “don’t let’s” - “let’s don’t” - “let’s not” continuum between past/present and English/American is always interesting to me.
I bet it is so much fun to be a writer and be able to write such lines!
"When we release the dogs of war, we must go where they take us."
6:40 the best "huh" I've ever heard xD
Everyone deserves a nan as strong and loyal as the Dowager Countess ❤
"Does it ever get cold on the moral high ground?"😂😂😂😂I forgot about that one
I swear, they could do a show of just these 2 ladies. I like them as much as I loved Karen & Jack, from Will & Grace
Agreed. Cant say how many times I've fallen in love with secondary character arcs over the primary ones due to great acting and good story telling. I could watch these ladies for hours.
How lovely to see Mrs. Dowager, please bring us all her scenes in the Downton, I’m so enjoyed watching Dowager😍😍😍, especially her lovely accent,
the most gorgeous accent I’ve ever heard 😍😍😍
Mrs Dowager?😂😂😂
D1 familykid oh my, that’s wrong, should be dowager only
@@Angelissinging963 Yes shes the Dowager Countess of Grantham who's name is Violet Crawley
"Don't give me ideas"😂😂😂😂
I love Andy so much! Seeing his face was a blessing!
You’re a cool little mss, aren’t you? I’d feel sorry for Larry if I didn’t dislike him so much.
Isobel Crawley: "I'm not going to that one. I'd feel like the wicked fairy in Sleeping Beauty."
Didn't cousin Isobel actually say that?
@@AfoParedes You know you're right. Correct quote. Wrong person. 😎💜
The Dowager makes watching Downton Abbey worth while ❤️
Two magnificent actresses at the peak of their powers a joy to watch.
I'm LOVING these scenes/clips from Season 6!! #FortheLoveofDowntonAbbey
Did you drink at luncheon?😂😂😂
Lady Isobel Merton was like true dat at "7:51"
I love the writing on this show is awesome!
Isobel: And I ought to be told about any proposed changes
Dr Clarkson: You're being told now
Me: And I oop-
@1:06 lol... Look at Cora.. she knows something isnt right there ... hahahaha...
I always got excited whenever I saw scenes where Violet and Isobel together...
Please do a series on the young Dowager Countess and her children!!!!!!
Adore Downton Abbey 💗
I got to a point where I recognise actors by their voices instead of their face - Isobel Crawley was Harriet Jones on Doctor Who
"And I'm a tough nutcracker."