NEW MODEL 2020 Montana 376FL Front Living Rear Loft Full Time Living Keystone Fifth Wheel RV
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I LIKE THE LAYOUT - CONCERNED ABOUT REAR CLEARANCE ..... FROM THE GROUND TO THE BOTTOM OF THE REAR BEDROOM .....LOOKS TIGHT
I think it's a fair concern. This is what I call a "Portable park model." Likely best left in one spot when possible.
Here's updated footage on this one by the way: th-cam.com/video/SyjzliniA2Q/w-d-xo.html
This guy does the best RV reviews!
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I was very exited looking at this floor plan. Very cool layout, especially the front living room and the loft. It is perfect for a family of 4 (2 small kids) The only deal breaker is that there is no outside kitchen. A small fridge with a cooking grill would have been enough....
I think the trick is there's just no space to put one -- especially given how precious the limited outside storage already is. But that's why we carry so many models. Perhaps something like these might have more of what you're seeking: www.haylettautoandrv.com/inventory/?keyword=384br
4:27 minutes into this video and I already know that THIS IS THE ONE for us!! Its as if I designed it myself!! BRAVO!
Agreed. This one is genius.
Me and my wife said that same thing. Every trailer we look at is either for a couple or 20 people. We have 1 kid and just dont want her sleeping on a couch in our living room anymore but we dont need a huge bedroom for her either.
The one couch slide is a little in the way for us we have a seasonal site with a deck and the one couch slide interferes with our view of the water a bit but we can live with it for checking every other box.
Need a cabinet above the toilet for towels, no towel racks or hooks, not even a hand towel rack.
Many brands leave out things like towel rods as no matter where they put them "it's the wrong spot." Some brands like Rockwood intentionally ship them loose for that reason. That's easy screwdriver stuff we can handle for you before the RV ever leaves our driveway
I just went to the Seattle RV show this last weekend. We found out that our two special needs boys would be unable to climb the ladder to a loft above a mid bunk. This floor plan however is absolutely amazing. Exactly what we are looking for. This will 100% be the next RV we will be living in.
Remember they're on wheels. When you're ready we'd love the fair opportunity to send one your way.
Haylett RV I will not forget.
I owned a Big Sky Montana about 10 years ago and absolutely LOVED it. The set up was very similar to this one. The good part of the kitchen not on a slide is that it does not impede on your "living" deck side outdoors. Believe me I had an awesome large deck for outdoor enjoyment because of this feature. I miss that rig it was the best for its time.
Thanks for sharing! Always great getting feedback from actual owners!!
Nice brand. Thanks.
Our pleasure!
If this had a half bath it would be great
Where would you like to see it?
@@JoshtheRVNerd good point. Mid bunk good for office.
$96k they could move the bed slide to opposite and build a nice outdoor kitchen? All the rest is awesome 👌
Thanks for your videos I really enjoyed, this one and a short 5th wheel are in my bucket list!🙏
Like this one? m.th-cam.com/video/6vxzN8zB8Do/w-d-xo.html
I love this design better than others. Great to have a back door for letting your dog out especially if you can put up some fencing if you have the right place.
Love that idea
Exactly! We currently have a back door in our bedroom, and specifically got it to quietly let dogs out when we have guests visiting & sleeping in the other end. Luv this layout!
I like the layout of this. Kitchen is a little tight, but still has decent counter space.
Great unit but...I see one thing that could make it better.If the rear bedroom slide was on opposite side and the little dresser was shaped differently , I see an outdoor kitchen become a possibility
We're the odd ones, I guess. We love our combo washer/dryer. Very glad we installed it.
I have been looking for a 5th wheel that meets all of my needs as well as my twin boys.... well Montana you have finally done it!!!!
Well hopefully you've found your dealership as well ;)
Same. I have 3 boys and this would be perfect
I think I have finally found one that will fit my family.
And the right dealer to fulfill it, right? :)
You can learn a little more about her at S1780
I really like these type of models myself, it is really good for a couple an one child.
Love the outside the box thinking with this floor plan. Would like to see this be a little bit bigger in length to give a bigger bathroom but otherwise, very nice.
I think to go longer than this w/o coding issues they'd have to make it a destination trailer due to square footage restraints. Could be wrong. The bathroom is ENOUGH... but a SMIDGE bigger wouldn't kill me either :)
Favorite layout I’ve seen has the front living and the loft need this
LOVE IT! But the fridge and table need to be swapped. Our 2010 35DSRL Elkridge has the back drivers door in the loft its nice if your camping with someone and they are on that side of you.
Love this floor plan and the colors. It just looks very cozy
Very interesting floor plan. If we didn’t already have the 368MBI and love it this would be a contender. A consideration about that back door is room for those MorRyde steps to open up. Since they’ll be in your hallway you really have to put them out so you need to plan that when you’re parking this so you have room for them. A lot of places we’ve been have the power pedestal or physical barriers between sites back there. Not a deal breaker but something to think about.
Solid input. A case of an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure!
Great video as usual. Very interesting design. While a king mattress might fit the dimensions of the loft, good luck getting a king mattress around that corner and into place!
Solid piece of input I hadn't considered. I'm actually glad you mentioned that. Giant foam sleeper cushions might be a solution there..
@@JoshtheRVNerd I think that you would have to go with a king sized air bed or two twins pushed together. Or buy a mattress in a box and drag the box up there and than unroll it. But I don't think you'd ever get the mattress out of the loft again. I do like the look of the two mattresses that are already up they, I wonder if a person could buy those from a RV store? I love this trailer, thanks Josh for another fun and good video.
Remove the railing, it might fit
Not sure if you're gonna be able to wrestle a king mattress up that stairwell. Foam topper you could
You're 100% right -- idea never crossed my mind when I said it. TY for pointing this out
TA DA!!!! This is it. Love this. Grand kids can come and stay. This is better then mid bunk as far as I’m concerned because I love the front living area not being in my kitchen. Bathroom kind of dinky but you gotta give something to get other stuff. Yeah. I like it.
Can you do a video on frame flex and what is causing it and what to do if you have it on the Montana line
Most frame flex is due to overloading or improper use of the auto leveling system. Each montana chassis is custom-engineered to prevent frame flex from proper use.
Is there a brand in which you've seen flexing frames as an issue?
@@JoshtheRVNerd
I don’t have frame flex yet and I own a 2020 3781rl. Another owner in the Montana forum with the same model is at Affinity right now with their issue and there are other documented cases with the front slides on the Montana line. I don’t want this to happen to me and I want to know how to prevent it. I’m not overloaded but not sure what you mean about not using leveling system correctly
@@teezeeman18 This sounds more isolated than widespread.
Regarding leveling system -- What I mean there is some people will start mashing the button on one of the jack legs w/o letting the system work on its own. They can in extreme cases tweak the frame like you're describing.
how well does the A/C cool the master bedroom? do the ducts feeding it put enough air in there?
We haven't had clients offer complaints about that yet, so it seems to be doing well. It's important to remember the loft is actually acting as something like an extra layer of protection for the bedroom
So that lower bedroom never really gets a lot of direct sun exposure outside heating up the room. Cold air also travels down, so some of the A/C from the living area will naturally "bleed" down into the bedroom
What is the height of bedroom below loft? I’m 6’5” Shower is exciting 😂
@@GeorgeBechler I believe it's the same as any normal upper deck Montana bedroom, but looking through my resources I don't see where they provided that measurement for us. You are welcome to drop our team a note at www.haylettautoandrv.com/contact/ & they can measure it in return for the fair opportunity to earn your business
@@GeorgeBechler Another thought -- We have something here that will give you all the shower/bedroom headroom in the world right here: www.haylettautoandrv.com/inv/2020-Forest-River-Sabre-37FLH-Coldwater-S1782/
@@GeorgeBechler i am also 6'5 and the bathroom/shower was awesome in the one we looked at! no more head in the sunroof bubble showers if we get one!
I’ve owned two Montana’s, and they were both perfect.
My first one was about a 30 footer, and my second was a bit over 40’, with a stackable washer/dryer. The washer was perfect, but that dryer just flat out wrinkled EVERYTHING!
Having said all this, there are now some other brands out now that we really are looking at.
I’m really thinking we will purchase a Pinnacle this time.
We handle both obviously, so we're well equipped to give you a fair side-by-side breakdown of both brands to help you zero in on the one that best fits your wants and needs.
Thank you sir! We are torn between building a nice 2 bed 2 bath home, or getting an incredibly nice 5thwheel and enjoy it for many years. We are definitely leaning to the trl as for us, our lifestyle, not rich at all, but definitely debt free, we just don’t need much.
It’s an incredible decision.
Anyone here wants to buy a bit less than an acre in rural Idaho, with water and power, let me know. That then makes our decision!
First of all Merry Christmas to you, your family and your dealership family!
Josh, this has to be one of the most unique floor plans ever..... in a very good way! I personally like a front living room/kitchen with the bedroom in the back. The campground traffic won't interfere with a good nights sleep.
Really like the extra door on the off side great for access to the bathroom w/o walking through the whole house.
Love seeing those huge aluminum floor joists. Montana really knows how to build them.
Love the loft above the bedroom............great way to keep some excited to be camping kids under control (if possible)
Good Vid!
This is exactly what I have wanted
Bonita.
for get owning a house buy some land and this or at lest i would.
It has everything except a larger water tank! Other then that, it's an awesome floor plan. Some other company, I can't remember who, made a loft like that a couple of years ago. Really nice!
Really cool design! :) Tyfs
Love this floor design , nice to see them changing up . Great video have a Merry Christmas
Very nice 5th wheel. Really like the floor plan
Josh, I have often wondered why slide awnings are usually black. Wouldn't white be better to help keep the slide outs cooler? Is there advantages to the darker color? Can white covers be ordered when a RV is ordered from the factory? Thanks Josh...............you the best!!!
White covers are certainly available. Black is most commonly seen today because "it looks better."
If a factory offers slide awnings, then they will only use they color they think looks best. If a brand only offers black (such as montana), and you wanted white then we'll simply handle the install here locally.
How do you get a king bed or even a queen into the loft? Not that it's necessary but you said you could take the loft beds out and replace it with a king. Doesn't seem like there is enough room to move it in there from the stairs ...
Someone else quickly pointed out that while a big mattress could fit in the loft getting it up there wouldn't exactly work out. A fact I had obviously overlooked myself and I thank everybody for pointing that out so we can focus on more real-world applications for this RV.
Folding foam/style mattresses are definitely what you'd want to use here.
Memory foam mattresses come compressed and rolled up, so you can easily get one in there. We have a bumper pull camper that we put one in. It won't be coming out! 😁
unconventional set up, but it does tick a LOT of boxes. I would replace one of the fold out couches in the front LR with a permanent computer desk for my work space.
Just remember the slide floor upstairs is not flush with the floor when it comes to planning for leg room under that desk.
Wow, super nice fifth wheel.. so different.. the back bedroom is so cozy looking.. but why the skylight in the bathroom, ppl not walking around Shaq size lol
There's usually no light above the shower so skylight adds some light during the day
The Heritage Glen 378FL is essentially the same thing, but I think I like the interior of this Montana a bit better. Been waiting for a video review since I saw it pop up on their website.
Festive background Xmas music. Fleas Navidog!
We're the jolliest bunch this side of the nuthouse!
Perfect just what I was looking for in a full time RV.
Perfect layout for me. Front living room with lofts are hard to find. You sacrifice some kitchen space/layout but I will take that compromise.
Is this full time/4 season rated?
Montana is and has been full time / four season rated since 2005. They've been leaders in those aspects for years. It's no coincidence they're the #1 fifth wheel period & #1 to full-timers for 17 straight years.
Well, I’m only 5’3” & I can confidently saw “bigger doesn’t mean better” 😉 + I’m an 🇺🇸 too
Thank you for the terrific video!
What type of slides does this unit have? Are they cable slides?
Cable, Yes. Light weight, good for heavy weight slides, and reliable.
The axles are in the middle of the coach? isn't the rear overhang too long?
Montanas engineers are excellent about checking scrub lines to ensure there is no tail dragging on their RVs.
If you weren't aware: (Scrub lines are the imaginary lines from the tires to the rear of the RV. Anything below that could hit the ground. They make sure nothing mounts below those lines)
This is a great design especially if you are a tall guy like myself. The backdoor is genius and it doesn't seem to waste space. This is something I would like to buy. Do they make this unit in 39ft model?
There's just no way to shrink this down any further unfortunately. A mid bunk would be pushing it, but may be possible in that size target (even then tricky to find).
Are there mid bunks under 40 feet?
@@daphnelabua525 Technically yes, but not much below 40ft. By the time you have slides in the living room, a sliding bunk room, bathroom, and bedroom (probably with a slide) it has to be at last 37ft if not more.
Couple that with a sales history in which full bed slide mid-bunks (which are those 40ft models) absolutely dominate the mid-bunk market & you simply don't find much. Cougar makes the smallest mid-bunk that makes any real sense which you can see here: bit.ly/33ECs9j Impressively it's under 33ft and MUCH lighter than most.
Love, love this rv
This RIG tops out at my tow cap with my F350 SWR Diesel 4x4, is this unit safe to tow with this Truck? Love this Rig. What about Solar and Gen Set for Boondocking?
Without knowing more about your vehicle's capacities I couldn't say for sure. Our team at www.haylettautoandrv.com/contact/ can help ensure safe towing as well as provide options for solar/generator
@@JoshtheRVNerd in checking your site it's in by a hundred & change in pounds... have sent in a request form sent for details with what we need &looking for. Seems like it will be worth the drive from Goodyear AZ.
@@andystewart1580 We look forward to simply having the opportunity to serve you and your family!
Maybe I missed it, but are there washer and dryer hookups? Very nice layout!!
There are hookups. Displayed Here: th-cam.com/video/lAq7SlTnDtI/w-d-xo.html
Long video. Lots of information. Easy to miss specific features :)
Holy Frankenfifthwheel, Batman!
Question~ Can the TV be retracted while the "fireplace" is heating the room without damaging the TV?
Absolutely. The electric heating fireplace has a forced air fan to direct heat away from the screen & systems.
You’re voice is a perfect cartoon
And my wife says I have a face for a pillow case! lol
Are there older make /models with this floorplan? (Thank you for posting such wonderful videos!)
There are not. This style of layout is VERY new in the RV industry & hasn't really even been seen in the mainstream for so much as a year yet
Haylett RV thank you for your reply! My family and I are in the market for an RV and would like to give Haylett our business but we live in NY. I will be calling the number you referenced below later today to speak to a rep. Thanks again!
TYVM. All we ask for is that fair opportunity in return for our efforts!
Haylett RV it’s so helpful that you guys can ship anywhere !!!!
What's the difference between a montana and a montana high country?
The differences between the 2 have changed so much over the years but now I'm not quite sure what they are.
In short: The "spirit" or purpose of the two differs. Both have auto leveling, dual air, king beds, walk in slides, 0 degree rated, tank heaters, A/C heat pumps, etc.
The goal of the different sub-segment & how they accomplish those goals is where they vary & where the differences come from.
High Country models are built with weight sensitivity, whereas "montana"-proper models are built with feature focus.
That means High Country models tend to be lighter in weight & budget whereas a "Big Montana" is more the luxury focused "flashy" model.
Basically same construction between them. Just a different set of appointments and "Creature features"
@@JoshtheRVNerd the thing that makes this unit great is it doesnt really sacrifice anything as you mentioned. With a mid bunk you give up cupboard/counter space. With a typical bunk house you give up the entertainment area. The only thing I wish was different is a different slide system. Or maybe just educate myself a bit better on cable slides, I'm a bit weary of those.
@@buckwuk7984 It's a concern a lot of folks have. I think one of the most powerful pieces of information relating to cable slides out there is the fact that at all of Montana and Cougar combined cable slides are literally their least warranted item.
It's also the most expensive slide system out there. MFGs would not continue to use it if it wasn't working when literally all other alternatives are less expensive.
Did I miss the MSRP?
Our team at 800-256-5196 can assist with that. The unit in stock could vary from what's here, so it's best to provide clients like yourself with information specific to each individual trailer.
Our asking pricing is below the MFG's advertising minimums (An annoying thing called "MAP pricing" you can learn about here th-cam.com/video/UzNx6ayEwaY/w-d-xo.html). We offer a button right on our site to get our web special asking price directly w/o needing to call anyone at bit.ly/2S3wImQ
What is the floor to ceiling height of that loft? Very cool floor plan and fantastic videos as usual!
This isn't a spec we have on hand, but our team is happy to go hand-capture it for you. Simply give them a ring real quick at 800-256-5196
I don't understand why they design an RV that looks out and now even has a for going into your neighbor's site. Rather than your own
In the living room you basically have 360 degrees of viewing.
Plenty of brands build big slides on the door side loaded with windows. On a model like this it plays havoc with your awning and campsite causing you to lose a lot of functional space in both.
That's why we carry different models - to give you options and find the thing YOU prefer. Perhaps you'd prefer Sabre's front living at: bit.ly/38OpXeJ
What is the height of the loft?
I don't have specs on that & am away from the office currently trying to keep up with all these questions coming in! Our team at 800-256-5196 would be happy to quickly hand-measure and verify that for you.
I really like that by making this a drop-frame rear bedroom, there appears to be more height in the loft than midbunk lofts seem to have. Is that just a mental game or is the loft floor to ceiling height taller?
It's slight, but I think you're right. I'd have to do some measuring. I think they used JUST enough room in the bedroom to put an extra smidge into that loft.
How do we change out our couch and theatre seats from our 2019 anniversary edition of 3810MS.....will they be able to fit thru the front door?!?
The backs usually come off which makes each piece small enough to get out of the door for swap purposes.
Haylett RV thank you !
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Here's some footage of the updated version!
I love the design. What the layout also come in a travel trailer?
This layout is a bit too large for a common travel trailer. loft concepts in trailers can really only be found in destination trailers like the Wildwoods we offer due to the the height/size they require.
What is full-time RV warranty??
Use the RV all you want w/o "over use" causing a loss of coverage.
Think of it like an unlimited mile warranty on a car. Similar to that concept.
What is the GVWR on this? 16k?
16,460lbs, so roughly 3400-3500lbs of cargo capacity
What's the height in the master bedroom?
Shooting from the hip based on how tall it is vs. my height: about 6'6". If you need more specific information, then give our team a call at 800-256-5196 or drop them a line at www.haylettautoandrv.com/contact/ & they'd be happy to hand-measure for you!
@@JoshtheRVNerd if you have a minute can you measure? I'm 6'6" and would like to know if I would fit or not. Thanks
@@ArmyMedicRN As mentioned give our team a call at 800-256-5196 or drop them a line at www.haylettautoandrv.com/contact/ & they'd be happy to get that for you.
You sound identical to my pastor ...weirdddd lol ..
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Sounds like a cool dude
Can I get the phone number for the owner of the company that builds this trailer? I seriously want to call them and thank them for building an absolutely amazing trailer. Looks like a big boy to tow yet damn well worth it!
They really nailed this one, didn't they? :)
Soooo watching a movie is what we're calling it now?...I bet the name of the movie is Just Fooling Around
"Just Go With it"
"No Strings Attached"
"Friends with Benefits"
"When Harry Met Sally"
"Night at the Roxbury"
"Sleepless in Seattle"
"Harry Potter & the Sorcerer's Stone"
...at this point anything I wrong is a double entendre
I love this floor plan! What is the ceiling height in the master bedroom? I'm 6'9 so that is why I ask. Thank you for these videos!
Montana upper decks usually measure 6'6" sidewall. You're just taller than the average bear. Most RVs aren't designed with a giant drink of water like you in mind.
Interestingly... Eagle travel trailers are 7ft tall on the HT models and 7'3" on the full "Eagle" series and may fit you more comfortably.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Very pleased to hear the 6'6" height in the upper decks of Montana's!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I know the living room heights. I'm curious what that master height is on the new model. It's such a cool floor plan.
@@Jeff_369 Master bedroom and ceiling are the same height
*WOW* !!!! *This NEW Model Montana is ssssooo surprising* !!!!! *LOVE the stairs/loft area* !!!! *Very nicely appointed trailer* !!!! #KeystoneMontana #HaylettRV