Aww, thank you!! I think there are a number of reasons the vote went the way it did, and it’s tough to disentangle them 😅 Regardless, winning in your hearts is all that mattered to me from the start 🧡
When I watched the competition, I really thought Disinherited is gonna win, but that might be just my personal opinion. I think this game was much better then others. And I wasn't Dryden's audience at the time.
My wife and I watched the game jam and were rooting for you the whole time. I know how impactful $10k can be toward an indie project, we were really disappointed. We're happy you're going to continue the project and are definitely going to pick it up once it's out!
Aw, thanks so much, to both of you! The fact that it’s resonated with folks so far is gift enough, and might in itself be life-changing as an indie dev!! Thanks for the encouragement :)
Here’s my analysis: Lixian had a great game. Not only did he implement the theme well but he also incorporated the twists well too. It had pretty good art (and a unique style) which made it overall okay. However, he could have improved on the “virus”, progression and enemies. He only had 2 enemies (unless you count the virus). Speaking of the virus, the way to avoid it was just not so great. Pick up stuff, throw it together, bam. Also, the progression was just a bunch of rooms with keycards to go to new rooms. The limited content also restricted replay-ability. + Good art + Nicely implemented themes / Virus wasn’t that creative - Progression was boring - Not many enemies and/or replay ability. Now you had a complete monster of a game. Themes were AMAZINGLY well implemented, and rather than just add a random part of the game, they actually contributed a lot. There we SO MANY unique enemies and bosses, SO MANY cool items, SO SO SO MUCH replay-ability, a great art style, random generation (added to replay-ability), a stupid cool game idea that was actually well-thought out, and it was even executed extremely well! + AMAZING art + Plenty of enemies + Lots of bosses + Random generation + Great game idea + Well executed + So, so SO much replay-ability. Conclusion: Yes, he was robbed. For anyone who hasn’t seen the video or doesn’t understand, the only way Lixian won was because he had 1m+ subs. I think Dryden (creator of this vid) had around 2k at the time. The community decided who won, because they had a weight of two. Even then, I am SHOCKED the judges chose Lixian over your game, when your game did everything his did but better and more. I think the judges had some bias too. Anyways, please keep making games, you are such a cool creator. Plus, you’re really enjoyable to listen to and seem like a very friendly guy. Bye!
Yo I appreciate the in-depth analysis, wow! I definitely still have some minuses to work through in my game 😉, but I sure do love the support, a lot. Makes me feel quite happy 😃
Aw thanks, I appreciate that! But man, Lixians was so immersive too, really raised the emotions quickly and the staging of the events was masterful I always felt like it was gonna be a tough one!!
@@LighthoofDryden Lixians feels like a good indie game that becomes popular and then dissapears (a trend game), yours feels like a polished indie game that is a game loved by the people
I love Lixian, and his game was more my style, but you crushed the competition requirements at every turn. You took the twists and embraced them, rather than just finding a way to technically qualify. And your game had a level of polish throughout. The fan vote shouldn't have counted for 2 votes as that gave them a 29% weight. For what amounts to a popularity contest that really shouldn't have been the deciding factor. I'm waiting for BTP to catch on that some of their decisions are kind of inconsiderate for their guests This isn't the first time. But congrats on setting your new goal! Can't wait to see what becomes of this game. You did so much in a few weeks, I can't imagine what you can achieve in a year.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words!! BTP has been soo supportive of me on and off the scenes, I know they catch a lotta heat but fundamentally they're good guys trying their best (I certainly would perish instantly if I had to run a contest of this size haha)
Dude,i was SO sad seeing you come second, lixians game was good, but you litrally had the best integration of the theme, the most interesting game and definitely the best gameplay. SO many spelunky vibes, 100% gonna wishlist this
I've watched all of Black thorn prods videos. Of all the pass the game challenges, of all the competitions, this game easily impressed me the most out of all of them.
Some of the other comments already told you, but i just have to say it aswell: That loss in the finals was a different level of bs. The fact that you got 30% of the votes against a youtuber with over 600 times your subscriber count speaks volumes. You didnt beat all the other devs. You slaughtered them. I am truely inspired by your humility, because if i lost a competition after outclassing everyone else by such a wide margin i would be furious. I know that i am probably being too harsh here. The other devs did a great job aswell and are clearly very talented, but especially after seeing how kind of a person you are, my anger issues simply get the better of me here.
Aww, I do appreciate your passion and support, but for my part, I can't feel anything but lucky. It's so hard to have your work seen as a dev, and so many devs who have incredible ability and work nonstop for years don't get an opportunity like this. It's genuinely a dream come true
@@LighthoofDryden You had every allowence to be salty and chose to simply be happy with what you got instead. Absolute Gigachad. Cant wait to get my hands on the final game. If that wasnt clear already: It looks fantastic.
As soon as a read "almost won" in the title I knew what had happened. Community voting just doesn't work, people 'cheese' it, becomes popularity contest instead of gamedev. Ways to prevent it could be: 1. Anonymous entry, that way no one knows who made which game. 2. Force playing of every single game before someone can vote (more work to implement), possibly too hard to vote. 3. Community given a random short list of games to play and rank (eg vote 1, 2, 3 for the following randomly chosen games). You'd think #1 would be fool proof, but I'm sure people would post on private facebook/patreon/discord/steam groups to vote for their particular creation.
No doubt, it’s TOUGH to run something like that. But I suspect it won’t be happening this way next time, given the response Despite that I think Lixian is wonderful and don’t begrudge him the victory at all
Man..... you were stolen the win. Such an amazing game out of such a challenging theme! Wish listed it on steam! I know that after some more work on it, it will be an amazing game to add to my steam collection!
i found it very unfair you didnt win! Lixian was popular, thats all. you had everything required, the theme, story, mechanics, etc. i loved your work ^^
Popularity had nothing to do with it. Do you think that if Lixian just made a simple game, and because he's "popular", everyone would play it and love it??? The issue with the contest was bringing in the community, as their voting went towards Lixian. If the voting was contained within the main judges, then Disinherited would have won for sure. So this was a bad decision/move on the judges end and nobody else is to blame for it.
@@VoltageDevelopment if lixians game was waay worse then even his community would probebly not vote for it. However, when it is like 9/10 for this game and 7/10 for lixians then the community will just vote for his one even though it is a little worse
they said, they didnt reveal whose game was whose during the community votings. I hate these fans dont drop deep down to the game, Dryden's game was more refined, looked more clean, had better UI and looked more fun, but the community probably thought 2D was boring
Part of me wonders if you’d have gotten anywhere near the growth if you’d gotten your deserved win. Everyone following you partly or maybe even mostly because they think it’s unfair lmao. Maybe you didn’t get the $10k, but you know it might lead to bigger things sooner anyway!! Wishing you luck for the rest of the journey and i’m excited to follow along!
Thank you very much!! And I have definitely wondered what that alternate universe would have looked like, too. Usually what I imagine makes me more grateful for this one 😅
I have an idea for a boss that might be interesting. Cats supposedly have 9 lives, so what if the way to immortality was to have multiple cats share one of their lives? A cat owner as a boss would be something I haven't seen in games before
While others took the theme in a different direction (and in my opinion lost the theme in some cases), you stayed with the theme the best out of every single contestant. Personally, I would say you won the competition. I have Disinherited wishlisted on steam and look forward to the game's progress!
If this game comes to console I’m definitely buying and supporting. Your work ethic and adherence to the prompts given during the challenge were in my opinion the best of any of the devs. I was like oh he’s THINKING thinking when hearing your ideas for lore and storylines. Definitely keep up the great work bro. Take your time and see your vision through. Can’t wait for the release
Hahaha “THINKING thinking” made me chuckle. I’m gonna push to get to console really hard! I’m mostly a console player myself, so that would be a dream come true for me
I watched that BTD competition, its how I found about your channel Dryden! You make really cool stuff, and as everyone said I feel like you were top contender. I've already wishlisted Disinherited and I'm really glad you're pushing for a release! :D
Bro you have no idea how much your game gave me energy to throw myself at gamedev again after a huge pause, i'll be following your work for sure and maybe finish a game of my own, thank alot. You should have won that 10k prize
Dryden I fell in love with your game the first I heard about it! The story, characters, gameplay all seem so intriguing I can’t wait to play it! I wanted you to win so bad I was so disappointed with how the vote went. :((
Honestly your game has so much more charm to it, and so many possibilites for new content. And it fits the theme so well. I do not wish to bash Lixian, but that 10k would have been better off with your project. It‘s great that there so many creative minds still afloat nowadays!
Wow, sorry for the late reply, but this is so kind of you to say!! Honestly I don't mind losing the competition, the support since then has been more than worth it :D Thanks for being here!
Yeah i have to agree with everyone here, it's CRAZY that you didn't win that competition. The art, the music, the gameplay, everything is perfectly on theme!!! I can't wait to try out the full game, and i believe you've got the powerhouse of creativity for more games like it :D
The gothic but cartoony astethic is really charming, and I really like how each boss revolve around the theme of immortality in their own way. I'll look forward to playing it!
The game sounds absolutely amazing and definitely deserved to win! Your ideas were super creative and it was very well designed. Can't wait to see what you make in the future!
This game 100% shouldve one, only one that actually felt like a real game with replayability, and honestly the only one that really fit the Memento Mori theme
I am starting(again)my journey on game dev. I quit using a computer for a long time and recently got a new one and decided to give it another go. Also doing TH-cam, streaming. And learning as much as I can in my free time. I started watching what I used to watch years ago. BTP, brackeys. All the old classic game devs. Just saw your game on btp comp and I normally don’t subscribe nowadays to anyone new. But you got my subscribe. It is really incredible how you lost just because of a community vote. But least to say. Your game was the best from the first week. Cannot wait to see the full polished end result. Keep it going man
I just adore how much thought you've put into this game. The theme is incredible with a great twist on memento mori. I love how the father remembered his mortality and tried to push his son to remember his (though I don't know if that was necessarily the best way lol) but the son, in protest strives to forget his mortality. I have a feeling that might bite him in the end but who knows! Not to mention, your knowledge of history brings life to the characters, art, and music. All that being said, this is likely the best game I've seen on any of these game dev competitions and I immediately wishlisted it. Can't wait to play it! Just please take care of your own health as you build this game and don't let pressure from fans like us make you push past a healthy limit.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful response!! That was the deepest tie to the theme that I wanted to get across with the project, and it should only be getting further underscored in the finished game :) I'll try to be much more mindful of my health during the rest of the dev cycle. Maybe "remember my own mortality" in a different way 😆
I love the look of disinherited, i normally don't "want to buy" that style of game, but your personality just makes me want to try it out so badly! Also, when you said "My husband is gonna be editing" , my heart exploded! I cant believe how precious you are! Please never stop doing what yiure passionate about!
Thank you so much aahh! You're too kind. I'm curious to know: what about the style of game would usually turn you off from it? I wonder if there's something I can implement within the game that can invite people in who wouldn't usually like it
@@LighthoofDryden to me it's just that I'm more comfortable with 3D games and I never really got into 2D in general. I never tried games like hollow knight either, because I never had motivation to. I think that for me it's just a matter of just not trying something different 😅 Though in the case of Disinherited, I wanna give it a shot because I love the way you talk about your own game, it makes me personally just want to get into the details myself. Maybe I'll give games like hollow knight a shot too, at least soon 😂 (Edit) I think that if you manage to stay as enthusiastic about creating games and make videos showing that enthusiasm, helping people like me immerse themselves in the process and story, it will draw people to the game. I can't think of game mechanics or features to implement, since I'm not a dev, but I hope I can help a little with my encouragement 😅
@@nemphisva It helps a lot, believe me!! And that makes sense to me--My husband really doesn't go for 2D games either haha. But he struggled through Ori because I insisted. Definitely give HK a shot if you're into Souls games. It does such a good job taking those dancelike boss fights into a 2D space!
I know, I'm only one of many comments here saying the same. But your game deserved to be the winner. It was a full game which not only looks awesome, but also had a lot of content, own made music and sprites and a lot of promise for the future. And it was unique and looked very polished for a "jam". You got a new sub and I'm exited to see the devlog and more from you!
I will be keeping a close eye on this one.... I am a massive roguelike fan, and was rooting for your game right from the start of the competition. There is so much potential here. Easy wishlist
Just watched the “competition”…you were robbed by popularity. I wish you the best of luck with this project and in the future, you are insanely talented!
Dude your game was so impressive and polished. I haven’t clicked on any other creators channel from the blackthorn videos but yours was just absolutely stellar and I had to see what else you did. Your game was so ridiculously clean and I thought you were a total shoe in to win. I’m excited that you’re still developing this game, since it looks like an amazing roguelike.
My dude, I would have paid for that game. You were absolutely robbed. Lixian made a good zombie horror game - but it's such an overused trope. But! a memento mori can also be a small gift or trinket to remind you of someone who has passed on. You absolutely should have won, hands down.
Not gonna lie, that plan sounds ambitious. Best of luck, we will be there every step of the way. Please keep in mind that nobody gets a nice game if you completely burn out in the next months. So stay healthy, and have fun with it ❤
Thank you for your caring consideration 🫶🏻 I’ll be keeping a close watch on my energy levels, and I promise to prioritize my mental/physical health and adjust timelines if need be!
Amazing game! I'm amazed at how good and polished you were able to make it in so little time. The mechanics are captivating, and overall it just feels such a fun and unique game. Definitely eager to see how it turns out! Best wishes for you.
Sadly I don’t have a computer which means I can’t get steam but if I did I would’ve added disinherited to my wish list immediately, it looks so fun and kind of reminds me of hollow knight, I’ll definitely be watching these dev logs over the weeks to see how everything goes
Your idea is so interesting, and you incorporated it in the design and gameplay so well, and teve bosses being people that searched for immortality and that’s what your character is going for, chefs kiss, incrdible game, you deserved to win
You knoe what is funny? I saw a awesome video right before i saw the black thornprod video and check out your channel. Thats when i knew i should really keep up with these videos 😁
Man You're talended AF and got robbed of the 1st place. I was stunned both when you made 1st day puzzle game and later on with the 10k challenge. I'm so inspired - I might get back to Unreal Engine myself. Keep up the great work!
Man, you did an awesome job! I loved it! I'm trying to get into gamedev, starting from zero, and your work, your game is a huge inspiration for me! I almost never leave any comments in TH-cam, but i just wanted to leave some small encouragment for you, after seeing that this piece of art didn't win the competition) Hope you'll go far with this game)
Thank you so much, this is so nice (and very sorry for the late reply, somehow I missed this??) Wishing you all the best on your gamedev journey!! I started from “nothing” (as a music producer) about 2.5 years ago and it’s been such a worthwhile ride.
find out about you and this game from the competition video and I liked your game from the very beginning. As someone who is only now starting to learn about game development, I can only be inspired by this and maybe learn some useful tips and tricks along the way ;)
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Lixian, Dude is a fun editor and personality and dev, but that was Bullshit. Your game absolutely should have won and from all the comments chiming in to agree, I hope its pretty clear to you. Keep your shit up dude, you rock!
dude your game is incredible! i was rooting for you, but since they gave the votes to the community, and lixian has more than 1mil subs, they voted for him, but, rightfully, you won that, and youre the real winner, your game is awesome, i can see how much effort and love you put into it, i wishlisted it on steam, im not saying lixian's game isn't good, it's definitely amazing too, but the horror genre is a bit too generic already, and doesnt really remind me of the whole Memento Mori thing. once again, you won that competition, youre a winner. im looking forward to your game Dryden!
You should have won. I was so disappointed at the end of the video. Your hard work and dedication was an indication of character and uniqueness. I wishlisted Disinherited right after watching the video. 🥰
That video brought me to your channel lol. It was difficult since Lixian is so established. You held your own and 100% had the best story and the most polish
Hey thank you!! I knew he was gonna be tough from the start, and I was gonna have to work like crazy to keep up with these guys. Appreciate you bein here
Something tells me you woulda pulled out an adorable character design and some unique mechanics and won hearts Love your work btw, you’re one of my faves!
You should have won TBH. Your entry was really impressive, so many systems masterfully pieced together. Unfortunately, general audiences are usually easily impressed by flashy graphics, and while your game's sprite art looks great, people always tend to find 3D more impressive than 2D, even if the 3D is bad - so much so that when 3D games started to become more mainstream in the 90s, alot of titles jumped to 3D, even at detriment to how they actually looked (take the PC and the PS1 version of Dune 2000 as a good example of this - the 2D art of the PC version looks great, but they went 3D for the PS1 version with horribly blocky art because they felt like they had too). Now I am not trying to disparage the game that won the competition; It looked nice enough in it's 3D, and it did have some amazing jump-scare scenes (which is a great thing to have, yes, but unfortunately the kind of thing TH-cam audiences tend to over-value, just look at the popularity of horror-game playthroughs), but beyond that it seemed much more generic and basic than what you had done. You could tell with your game you had put alot of thought and planning into everything, and there was immense depth to your systems, whereas for the winner's game, it sort of seemed like that were making it up as they went along much more. Nothing wrong with that approach, but it did feel like less effort was put into it overall. Oh well, I could lament about the simplicity and shallowness of the wider general audience all day long, but I shan't. I am sure that 10 grand would have been great for you, but at the end of the day, you're still a winner - as I am glad you realise by all the extra follows and wishlists you've gotten since the competition. Nicely done good sir, nicely done. Be proud!
Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment!! I so felt like I was making it up as I went along too 😅 but I always feel like if you strive to connect everything back to the foundation, it’ll feel like it was always meant to be. Well, if you’re lucky anyway
I’ve already wishlisted and I love hearing more about this game. I hope this is the game that blows up for you into something huge! I can definitely see the potential for a huge fan base :3
I absolutely thought you should of won, this game looks like it'll be so fun and there are so many options for bosses! There are so many different figures in history and myth that have claimed to be immortal and some would absolutely make awesome fights. I wanna put my vote in for one boss fight that is reminescent of Ornstein And Smough or Theseus and Asterius, but based on the alchemist Nicholas Flamel and his wife Perenelle Flamel, as I think a good double boss fight always gives an interesting challenge
Oh wow, this is me learning that Nicholas Flamel wasn’t just made up for Harry Potter. Fascinating, and what a great idea… maybe the area could be the Stone itself or something? 🤔
@@LighthoofDryden I'm a huge mythology and history buff so I love learning about weird figures like the Flamels. The one thing that brings out the truly wild stories tend to involve immortality at some point, like the tales of Count of St. Germain or Emperor Qin Shi Huang
Even now, Disinherited looks amazing and I can't wait to play it whenever it comes out. Hopefully its success will make the $10K that you deserved to win look like pocket change.
@@LighthoofDryden definitely give it a try if you can! it might even give you some inspiration on new mechanics and stuff that you can add to disinherited! cheers from brazil!
i am SO excited to play this! i cant wait! you did get robbed of money (Lixians was still great tho) but it created this awesome game! wishlisted! 11:34 exactly me!
Jo, you are crazy. This game looks so good and fun. One could really feel that the theme resonated with you. I am really looking forward to see the devlog 💪Think this is the start of a bigger fanbase.
I was so sad when you didn't win!! I 100 percent think you deserved it, popularity rigged the vote :( I'm so excited to get the game once it's out!! (no pressure)
Ahh it’s all okay! There were a lot of factors that don’t have to do with popularity. It was such a short voting time frame, and neither of us promoted it to our friends or communities. What matters to me is that you’re excited about it, truly!!!
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I'm saying it, you got that 1st place stolen! You had a huge disadvantage on that fan vote and it showed. In our hearts you are the clear winner
Aww, thank you!! I think there are a number of reasons the vote went the way it did, and it’s tough to disentangle them 😅
Regardless, winning in your hearts is all that mattered to me from the start 🧡
So true
Every person that wasn't voting on the "more subscribers" level thinks this ☝️
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When I watched the competition, I really thought Disinherited is gonna win, but that might be just my personal opinion. I think this game was much better then others. And I wasn't Dryden's audience at the time.
Dryden, in the hearts of us you rightfully deserved that money
That’s so kind 🥲 honestly I’ll take you guys’s support over any prize, any day
My wife and I watched the game jam and were rooting for you the whole time. I know how impactful $10k can be toward an indie project, we were really disappointed. We're happy you're going to continue the project and are definitely going to pick it up once it's out!
Aw, thanks so much, to both of you! The fact that it’s resonated with folks so far is gift enough, and might in itself be life-changing as an indie dev!! Thanks for the encouragement :)
Here’s my analysis:
Lixian had a great game. Not only did he implement the theme well but he also incorporated the twists well too. It had pretty good art (and a unique style) which made it overall okay. However, he could have improved on the “virus”, progression and enemies. He only had 2 enemies (unless you count the virus). Speaking of the virus, the way to avoid it was just not so great. Pick up stuff, throw it together, bam. Also, the progression was just a bunch of rooms with keycards to go to new rooms. The limited content also restricted replay-ability.
+ Good art
+ Nicely implemented themes
/ Virus wasn’t that creative
- Progression was boring
- Not many enemies and/or replay ability.
Now you had a complete monster of a game. Themes were AMAZINGLY well implemented, and rather than just add a random part of the game, they actually contributed a lot. There we SO MANY unique enemies and bosses, SO MANY cool items, SO SO SO MUCH replay-ability, a great art style, random generation (added to replay-ability), a stupid cool game idea that was actually well-thought out, and it was even executed extremely well!
+ AMAZING art
+ Plenty of enemies
+ Lots of bosses
+ Random generation
+ Great game idea
+ Well executed
+ So, so SO much replay-ability.
Conclusion:
Yes, he was robbed. For anyone who hasn’t seen the video or doesn’t understand, the only way Lixian won was because he had 1m+ subs. I think Dryden (creator of this vid) had around 2k at the time. The community decided who won, because they had a weight of two. Even then, I am SHOCKED the judges chose Lixian over your game, when your game did everything his did but better and more. I think the judges had some bias too.
Anyways, please keep making games, you are such a cool creator. Plus, you’re really enjoyable to listen to and seem like a very friendly guy. Bye!
Yo I appreciate the in-depth analysis, wow!
I definitely still have some minuses to work through in my game 😉, but I sure do love the support, a lot. Makes me feel quite happy 😃
Lixian talked about how he didn’t want it to just be keycards but he didn’t have enough time to change it.
@@LighthoofDryden you are too humble
@@FlawMinssneither did Dryden have enough time😅
Dryden 100% deserves it. It was way more refined
Aw thanks, I appreciate that! But man, Lixians was so immersive too, really raised the emotions quickly and the staging of the events was masterful
I always felt like it was gonna be a tough one!!
@@LighthoofDryden Lixians feels like a good indie game that becomes popular and then dissapears (a trend game), yours feels like a polished indie game that is a game loved by the people
Im not taking anything away from lixian hes an amazing dev but you so got robbed of that 10k.... i cannot wait to see what you come up with next!!!!!
He really is fantastic, it could have so easily gone either way!
And thank you 🙏 🤩
I love Lixian, and his game was more my style, but you crushed the competition requirements at every turn. You took the twists and embraced them, rather than just finding a way to technically qualify. And your game had a level of polish throughout. The fan vote shouldn't have counted for 2 votes as that gave them a 29% weight. For what amounts to a popularity contest that really shouldn't have been the deciding factor.
I'm waiting for BTP to catch on that some of their decisions are kind of inconsiderate for their guests This isn't the first time.
But congrats on setting your new goal! Can't wait to see what becomes of this game. You did so much in a few weeks, I can't imagine what you can achieve in a year.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words!!
BTP has been soo supportive of me on and off the scenes, I know they catch a lotta heat but fundamentally they're good guys trying their best (I certainly would perish instantly if I had to run a contest of this size haha)
Excellently articulated. I wholeheartedly agree.
Dude,i was SO sad seeing you come second, lixians game was good, but you litrally had the best integration of the theme, the most interesting game and definitely the best gameplay. SO many spelunky vibes, 100% gonna wishlist this
Thank you so much for saying so!!! Appreciate your kind words and the wishlist a tonnnn
I've watched all of Black thorn prods videos. Of all the pass the game challenges, of all the competitions, this game easily impressed me the most out of all of them.
That’s a huge compliment, thank you so much!! Means a lot
Some of the other comments already told you, but i just have to say it aswell: That loss in the finals was a different level of bs. The fact that you got 30% of the votes against a youtuber with over 600 times your subscriber count speaks volumes. You didnt beat all the other devs. You slaughtered them.
I am truely inspired by your humility, because if i lost a competition after outclassing everyone else by such a wide margin i would be furious.
I know that i am probably being too harsh here. The other devs did a great job aswell and are clearly very talented, but especially after seeing how kind of a person you are, my anger issues simply get the better of me here.
Aww, I do appreciate your passion and support, but for my part, I can't feel anything but lucky. It's so hard to have your work seen as a dev, and so many devs who have incredible ability and work nonstop for years don't get an opportunity like this. It's genuinely a dream come true
@@LighthoofDryden You had every allowence to be salty and chose to simply be happy with what you got instead. Absolute Gigachad.
Cant wait to get my hands on the final game. If that wasnt clear already: It looks fantastic.
As soon as a read "almost won" in the title I knew what had happened.
Community voting just doesn't work, people 'cheese' it, becomes popularity contest instead of gamedev. Ways to prevent it could be:
1. Anonymous entry, that way no one knows who made which game.
2. Force playing of every single game before someone can vote (more work to implement), possibly too hard to vote.
3. Community given a random short list of games to play and rank (eg vote 1, 2, 3 for the following randomly chosen games).
You'd think #1 would be fool proof, but I'm sure people would post on private facebook/patreon/discord/steam groups to vote for their particular creation.
No doubt, it’s TOUGH to run something like that. But I suspect it won’t be happening this way next time, given the response
Despite that I think Lixian is wonderful and don’t begrudge him the victory at all
Man..... you were stolen the win.
Such an amazing game out of such a challenging theme! Wish listed it on steam!
I know that after some more work on it, it will be an amazing game to add to my steam collection!
Thank you so much! For the wishlist and the support! I for real can’t wait to get back in and make it live up to its potential.
i found it very unfair you didnt win! Lixian was popular, thats all. you had everything required, the theme, story, mechanics, etc. i loved your work ^^
Popularity had nothing to do with it. Do you think that if Lixian just made a simple game, and because he's "popular", everyone would play it and love it???
The issue with the contest was bringing in the community, as their voting went towards Lixian. If the voting was contained within the main judges, then Disinherited would have won for sure. So this was a bad decision/move on the judges end and nobody else is to blame for it.
@@VoltageDevelopment Yea thats what @Lunartvis was saying...
@@VoltageDevelopmentthat’s the point of the original comment
@@VoltageDevelopment if lixians game was waay worse then even his community would probebly not vote for it. However, when it is like 9/10 for this game and 7/10 for lixians then the community will just vote for his one even though it is a little worse
they said, they didnt reveal whose game was whose during the community votings. I hate these fans dont drop deep down to the game, Dryden's game was more refined, looked more clean, had better UI and looked more fun, but the community probably thought 2D was boring
Part of me wonders if you’d have gotten anywhere near the growth if you’d gotten your deserved win. Everyone following you partly or maybe even mostly because they think it’s unfair lmao. Maybe you didn’t get the $10k, but you know it might lead to bigger things sooner anyway!! Wishing you luck for the rest of the journey and i’m excited to follow along!
Thank you very much!! And I have definitely wondered what that alternate universe would have looked like, too. Usually what I imagine makes me more grateful for this one 😅
I have an idea for a boss that might be interesting. Cats supposedly have 9 lives, so what if the way to immortality was to have multiple cats share one of their lives? A cat owner as a boss would be something I haven't seen in games before
9 lives is so interesting 👀 I mean, the main character’s dad’s cat is already gonna be a big deal, so that’s a perfect tie in!!
@zawdan666 Bro just cooked 5 star meal
Your creativity and music is insane! Cant believe that you have only been coding for 2 years!
Thank you so much omg! I've been incredibly obsessed since I started
While others took the theme in a different direction (and in my opinion lost the theme in some cases), you stayed with the theme the best out of every single contestant. Personally, I would say you won the competition. I have Disinherited wishlisted on steam and look forward to the game's progress!
Thank youuuu
If this game comes to console I’m definitely buying and supporting. Your work ethic and adherence to the prompts given during the challenge were in my opinion the best of any of the devs. I was like oh he’s THINKING thinking when hearing your ideas for lore and storylines. Definitely keep up the great work bro. Take your time and see your vision through. Can’t wait for the release
Hahaha “THINKING thinking” made me chuckle. I’m gonna push to get to console really hard! I’m mostly a console player myself, so that would be a dream come true for me
Hearing your husband is supporting you so well while you do this challenge made me tear up!! I can't wait to see future dev logs
He's been a gem
I watched that BTD competition, its how I found about your channel Dryden! You make really cool stuff, and as everyone said I feel like you were top contender. I've already wishlisted Disinherited and I'm really glad you're pushing for a release! :D
Oh man, thanks for coming over here! And for your kind words. Making cool stuff is all I wanna do 😄
Bro you have no idea how much your game gave me energy to throw myself at gamedev again after a huge pause, i'll be following your work for sure and maybe finish a game of my own, thank alot. You should have won that 10k prize
Bro!! The idea of inspiring other gamedevs is so unreal to me. Make it happen, you got this 💪
Dryden I fell in love with your game the first I heard about it! The story, characters, gameplay all seem so intriguing I can’t wait to play it! I wanted you to win so bad I was so disappointed with how the vote went. :((
Aw thank you so much!! The demo is coming tomorrow 🫨🫨🫨
You don't know how legitimately hyped I am to play disinherited. It seems so fun!
Thank you aaah! Let me know what you think of the demo whenever you get a chance to hop in, it’s on itch now 😎
@@LighthoofDryden I definitely will next time I get some extra time on my hands!
Honestly your game has so much more charm to it, and so many possibilites for new content. And it fits the theme so well.
I do not wish to bash Lixian, but that 10k would have been better off with your project. It‘s great that there so many creative minds still afloat nowadays!
Wow, sorry for the late reply, but this is so kind of you to say!!
Honestly I don't mind losing the competition, the support since then has been more than worth it :D
Thanks for being here!
Yeah i have to agree with everyone here, it's CRAZY that you didn't win that competition. The art, the music, the gameplay, everything is perfectly on theme!!! I can't wait to try out the full game, and i believe you've got the powerhouse of creativity for more games like it :D
Oh gosh, thank you!! I’m so excited for you to play it too :D and to keep going after it’s done!
The gothic but cartoony astethic is really charming, and I really like how each boss revolve around the theme of immortality in their own way. I'll look forward to playing it!
Thank you, I really appreciate that!! Working on getting it out to ya as soon as humanly possible :D
@@LighthoofDryden take the time you need!
The game sounds absolutely amazing and definitely deserved to win! Your ideas were super creative and it was very well designed. Can't wait to see what you make in the future!
Thank you so much!! I can't wait to make more :)
You have become my fav game dev pls keep going with the game your amazing and humble❤
So pumped to watch you expand on this game!
Thank you!!! I’m so pumped to do it 🧡 and glad you’re here!
This game 100% shouldve one, only one that actually felt like a real game with replayability, and honestly the only one that really fit the Memento Mori theme
Ay thanks so much! I do love working with a theme, a lot 😅
In my opinion you definitely won, this game looks awesome!
I am starting(again)my journey on game dev. I quit using a computer for a long time and recently got a new one and decided to give it another go. Also doing TH-cam, streaming. And learning as much as I can in my free time. I started watching what I used to watch years ago. BTP, brackeys. All the old classic game devs. Just saw your game on btp comp and I normally don’t subscribe nowadays to anyone new. But you got my subscribe. It is really incredible how you lost just because of a community vote. But least to say. Your game was the best from the first week. Cannot wait to see the full polished end result.
Keep it going man
Thank you, that is such a high compliment!! Best of luck to you as you re-embark on your gamedev quest. It’ll be worth it!
I just adore how much thought you've put into this game. The theme is incredible with a great twist on memento mori. I love how the father remembered his mortality and tried to push his son to remember his (though I don't know if that was necessarily the best way lol) but the son, in protest strives to forget his mortality. I have a feeling that might bite him in the end but who knows! Not to mention, your knowledge of history brings life to the characters, art, and music.
All that being said, this is likely the best game I've seen on any of these game dev competitions and I immediately wishlisted it. Can't wait to play it! Just please take care of your own health as you build this game and don't let pressure from fans like us make you push past a healthy limit.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful response!! That was the deepest tie to the theme that I wanted to get across with the project, and it should only be getting further underscored in the finished game :)
I'll try to be much more mindful of my health during the rest of the dev cycle. Maybe "remember my own mortality" in a different way 😆
After the video, I immediately went to see if this game was out,not the other one.
Good luck for the game's success, I feel like having really great art for everything will really help the game.
Thank you!! I appreciate that :D
So glad to see you’re continuing work on the game! I’m buying this the day it’s available
I love the look of disinherited, i normally don't "want to buy" that style of game, but your personality just makes me want to try it out so badly!
Also, when you said "My husband is gonna be editing" , my heart exploded!
I cant believe how precious you are!
Please never stop doing what yiure passionate about!
Thank you so much aahh! You're too kind.
I'm curious to know: what about the style of game would usually turn you off from it? I wonder if there's something I can implement within the game that can invite people in who wouldn't usually like it
@@LighthoofDryden to me it's just that I'm more comfortable with 3D games and I never really got into 2D in general. I never tried games like hollow knight either, because I never had motivation to. I think that for me it's just a matter of just not trying something different 😅
Though in the case of Disinherited, I wanna give it a shot because I love the way you talk about your own game, it makes me personally just want to get into the details myself.
Maybe I'll give games like hollow knight a shot too, at least soon 😂
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I think that if you manage to stay as enthusiastic about creating games and make videos showing that enthusiasm, helping people like me immerse themselves in the process and story, it will draw people to the game.
I can't think of game mechanics or features to implement, since I'm not a dev, but I hope I can help a little with my encouragement 😅
@@nemphisva It helps a lot, believe me!!
And that makes sense to me--My husband really doesn't go for 2D games either haha. But he struggled through Ori because I insisted.
Definitely give HK a shot if you're into Souls games. It does such a good job taking those dancelike boss fights into a 2D space!
@@LighthoofDryden I'll give it a shot 😂
I know, I'm only one of many comments here saying the same. But your game deserved to be the winner. It was a full game which not only looks awesome, but also had a lot of content, own made music and sprites and a lot of promise for the future. And it was unique and looked very polished for a "jam".
You got a new sub and I'm exited to see the devlog and more from you!
Thank you so much for being here and for your kind words! I put a lotta heart into it and will continue doing so :)
I loved the game when I first saw it. Please make more games like that.
I certainly will!! Thank you :)
I will be keeping a close eye on this one.... I am a massive roguelike fan, and was rooting for your game right from the start of the competition. There is so much potential here. Easy wishlist
Thank you so so much, happy to have ya along for the ride!!
Just watched the “competition”…you were robbed by popularity.
I wish you the best of luck with this project and in the future, you are insanely talented!
Wow, i loved the backstories for each boss 😍very dark and fit the theme
IBRA! Thank youuu I had a lot of fun crafting them (and maybe got too into it 😆)
Dude your game was so impressive and polished. I haven’t clicked on any other creators channel from the blackthorn videos but yours was just absolutely stellar and I had to see what else you did. Your game was so ridiculously clean and I thought you were a total shoe in to win. I’m excited that you’re still developing this game, since it looks like an amazing roguelike.
You may have lost that battle.
But you are on your way to win the war. Best wishes.
Thanks so much for the encouragement!!
I hoped so Bad, that your Game wins... But Hearing your Plans, Made me sooo Happy
Thank you!! I think it's the best thing that could have happened!
My dude, I would have paid for that game. You were absolutely robbed. Lixian made a good zombie horror game - but it's such an overused trope. But! a memento mori can also be a small gift or trinket to remind you of someone who has passed on. You absolutely should have won, hands down.
Aw thanks!! Appreciate you being here 😇 the demo is out now on itch by the way!
@@LighthoofDryden WHAT brb gotta go snag something real quick :3
Your game was awesome and his Artistic Direction is awesome too.
Instantly came to subscribe. You deserved that win such a well thought out game! I will be getting this game the moment it’s released!
Oh man, thank you!!! Current target for full release is Feb, with an open limited beta & kickstarter coming in early fall :D
Loved the refrences to A Series of Unfortunate Events, was hoping for your game to win but honestly ill probably buy this when it releases
Hey thank you!! That means a lot :)
Not gonna lie, that plan sounds ambitious. Best of luck, we will be there every step of the way. Please keep in mind that nobody gets a nice game if you completely burn out in the next months. So stay healthy, and have fun with it ❤
Thank you for your caring consideration 🫶🏻 I’ll be keeping a close watch on my energy levels, and I promise to prioritize my mental/physical health and adjust timelines if need be!
@@LighthoofDryden lovely 🥰 I'm so hyped for the upcoming devlogs! See you then!
Like so many said before, I also think you should have won. Amazing work, keep going, I wish you the best. Cheers from Germany
Thank you so much!! Cheers from across the pond :)
Amazing game! I'm amazed at how good and polished you were able to make it in so little time. The mechanics are captivating, and overall it just feels such a fun and unique game. Definitely eager to see how it turns out! Best wishes for you.
Hey thank you so much!! I can’t wait to get in some of the new stuff I’ve been working on and take it to the next level!
Im definitely purchasing this masterful rogue like! Your music design, visuals, and creativity are all amazing
Thank you!! Much more to come, much more to polish. Thanks for being here :)
Sadly I don’t have a computer which means I can’t get steam but if I did I would’ve added disinherited to my wish list immediately, it looks so fun and kind of reminds me of hollow knight, I’ll definitely be watching these dev logs over the weeks to see how everything goes
You being here is what matters, I appreciate it!! Do you usually game on console? I hope I can get some ports going asap after Steam release :)
@@LighthoofDryden yeah I play on ps4, if I could play disinherited on it that would be beautiful
Can't wait for the full release, have wishlisted already :D
Hope you win next time ^^ Because you deserve it
Me too, I wanna go to the gamedev castle competition hahahah.
But for now, I'm already feeling so happy with how things have turned out. :D
I wishlisted! You are an inspiration and I wish you best of luck this time around!
Thank you so much, that means a ton!!
You have insane potential as a game developer. I can see you making something big one day
Thank you 🙏 I certainly do hope so!
Your idea is so interesting, and you incorporated it in the design and gameplay so well, and teve bosses being people that searched for immortality and that’s what your character is going for, chefs kiss, incrdible game, you deserved to win
Thank you so much, this means a lot! I loved putting together the lore and I have a lot more :)
Really excited to watch this unfold. Good luck to you!
Thank you sincerely for being here!!
@@LighthoofDryden you're so positive it's really infectious 💛💚💙🩵
You knoe what is funny? I saw a awesome video right before i saw the black thornprod video and check out your channel. Thats when i knew i should really keep up with these videos 😁
Thank you!!! I’m so glad you happened to click and watch and now you’re here :D
Hello, thanks for the algorithm for meeting you again. I do like myself a good roguelike! :D
Yesss algorithm bringing Roguelike fans together again
Man You're talended AF and got robbed of the 1st place. I was stunned both when you made 1st day puzzle game and later on with the 10k challenge. I'm so inspired - I might get back to Unreal Engine myself. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!! And you definitely should hop back in, create create create!
What a robbery, I just watched the vid and had to come over to subscribe. Your rogue like looks so fun.
On the contrary, it's been such a gift!! Welcome, and I can't wait to give you a chance to play!
Best of luck developing the game! Can’t wait to see how it will get improved in the upcoming future 😁
AIRIDAS!! Thanks for the encouragement, I bet I’m gonna need it 😆
Man, you did an awesome job! I loved it!
I'm trying to get into gamedev, starting from zero, and your work, your game is a huge inspiration for me!
I almost never leave any comments in TH-cam, but i just wanted to leave some small encouragment for you, after seeing that this piece of art didn't win the competition)
Hope you'll go far with this game)
Thank you so much, this is so nice (and very sorry for the late reply, somehow I missed this??)
Wishing you all the best on your gamedev journey!! I started from “nothing” (as a music producer) about 2.5 years ago and it’s been such a worthwhile ride.
@@LighthoofDryden Thank you so much! I really appreciate it)
And don't worry, late reply is better than no reply at al ))
man. you are like.. really fucking cool. excited to see what the game becomes, goodluck!
Nah you’re cool for being here 😎 thanks so much for the support, appreciate you
Cannot wait for the full release!!! I really dig your game
Thank you so much :D I’ll keep ya updated right here on YT
You did incredibly, I especially loved all the references to people and characters, and how they fulfilled the prompts so well
Thank you, that’s so kind of you to say!
find out about you and this game from the competition video and I liked your game from the very beginning. As someone who is only now starting to learn about game development, I can only be inspired by this and maybe learn some useful tips and tricks along the way ;)
Thank you, that’s so kind! I hope I can share some stuff in the devlogs that’ll be helpful :D
You got robbed brother,
Came here to offer support since you clearly so deserve it. Awesome following you man
Thank you for being here, it means a lot!!
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Lixian, Dude is a fun editor and personality and dev, but that was Bullshit.
Your game absolutely should have won and from all the comments chiming in to agree, I hope its pretty clear to you. Keep your shit up dude, you rock!
Thanks for the encouragement!! The support here has been unbelievable, I definitely feel more motivated than ever before. Appreciate it
@@LighthoofDryden you're more than welcome, and enjoy it, you deserve it! Excited to see what that motivation brings!
dude your game is incredible! i was rooting for you, but since they gave the votes to the community, and lixian has more than 1mil subs, they voted for him, but, rightfully, you won that, and youre the real winner, your game is awesome, i can see how much effort and love you put into it, i wishlisted it on steam, im not saying lixian's game isn't good, it's definitely amazing too, but the horror genre is a bit too generic already, and doesnt really remind me of the whole Memento Mori thing.
once again, you won that competition, youre a winner.
im looking forward to your game Dryden!
Can’t wait for this to release , this is actually amazing such a talented game dev artist and musician ❤
Thank you 🥹 this made me so happy to read
Love the Game, Also the music is amazing. Looking forward to playing the game
Heyy thank you so much!! I appreciate it :)
Came here from the BTP video. Enjoyed watching your entry and this video. I really look forward to what you do with this going forward.
Hey thanks! Btw, watched your Roguelike vids during the competition for inspiration-looking forward to seeing where that goes too :)
@LighthoofDryden Oh, I wasn't expecting to hear that, haha. Thanks though!
Finding you made my day, thanks!
Aw thanks, that’s so nice!
You should have won. I was so disappointed at the end of the video. Your hard work and dedication was an indication of character and uniqueness. I wishlisted Disinherited right after watching the video. 🥰
Thank you so much for the support and wishlist! Tbh I do feel like I won with how excited people have been about Disinherited, it's a dream come true
That video brought me to your channel lol. It was difficult since Lixian is so established. You held your own and 100% had the best story and the most polish
Hey thank you!! I knew he was gonna be tough from the start, and I was gonna have to work like crazy to keep up with these guys. Appreciate you bein here
The concept is really cool, I will be waiting for this
Thanks so much! More updates on the way :)
It must be so amazing having someone who has skills and interests that will help create your vision for the game.
It truly is!!
You did so well with the theme, I would have been absolutely lost with "Memento Mori"
Something tells me you woulda pulled out an adorable character design and some unique mechanics and won hearts
Love your work btw, you’re one of my faves!
You should have won TBH. Your entry was really impressive, so many systems masterfully pieced together.
Unfortunately, general audiences are usually easily impressed by flashy graphics, and while your game's sprite art looks great, people always tend to find 3D more impressive than 2D, even if the 3D is bad - so much so that when 3D games started to become more mainstream in the 90s, alot of titles jumped to 3D, even at detriment to how they actually looked (take the PC and the PS1 version of Dune 2000 as a good example of this - the 2D art of the PC version looks great, but they went 3D for the PS1 version with horribly blocky art because they felt like they had too).
Now I am not trying to disparage the game that won the competition; It looked nice enough in it's 3D, and it did have some amazing jump-scare scenes (which is a great thing to have, yes, but unfortunately the kind of thing TH-cam audiences tend to over-value, just look at the popularity of horror-game playthroughs), but beyond that it seemed much more generic and basic than what you had done. You could tell with your game you had put alot of thought and planning into everything, and there was immense depth to your systems, whereas for the winner's game, it sort of seemed like that were making it up as they went along much more. Nothing wrong with that approach, but it did feel like less effort was put into it overall.
Oh well, I could lament about the simplicity and shallowness of the wider general audience all day long, but I shan't. I am sure that 10 grand would have been great for you, but at the end of the day, you're still a winner - as I am glad you realise by all the extra follows and wishlists you've gotten since the competition. Nicely done good sir, nicely done. Be proud!
Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment!!
I so felt like I was making it up as I went along too 😅 but I always feel like if you strive to connect everything back to the foundation, it’ll feel like it was always meant to be. Well, if you’re lucky anyway
Your game is so amazing! I personally think you should have won.
Aw thank you!! But I’ve come so far because of that video-I can’t complain one bit :)
Im so happy to be here for the start of this journey and I’m excited to stay for the rest of it :)
I’m so happy you’re here too! All 27 of you!
Keep going! Really liked the game! You are very talented and also very sweet.
Cheers from Brazil!
Hey thank you so much!! I appreciate you, cheers :)
I’ve already wishlisted and I love hearing more about this game. I hope this is the game that blows up for you into something huge! I can definitely see the potential for a huge fan base :3
I certainly hope so, that would be amazing 🥲
I absolutely thought you should of won, this game looks like it'll be so fun and there are so many options for bosses! There are so many different figures in history and myth that have claimed to be immortal and some would absolutely make awesome fights. I wanna put my vote in for one boss fight that is reminescent of Ornstein And Smough or Theseus and Asterius, but based on the alchemist Nicholas Flamel and his wife Perenelle Flamel, as I think a good double boss fight always gives an interesting challenge
Oh wow, this is me learning that Nicholas Flamel wasn’t just made up for Harry Potter. Fascinating, and what a great idea… maybe the area could be the Stone itself or something? 🤔
@@LighthoofDryden I'm a huge mythology and history buff so I love learning about weird figures like the Flamels. The one thing that brings out the truly wild stories tend to involve immortality at some point, like the tales of Count of St. Germain or Emperor Qin Shi Huang
you deserve the win dude the game is so so so good
I'm super excited for this game
Thank you 🙏 😄
Even now, Disinherited looks amazing and I can't wait to play it whenever it comes out. Hopefully its success will make the $10K that you deserved to win look like pocket change.
We can only hope, right? Then I get to keep making ‘em!
Excited to see this game get fully fleshed out
Thanks so much, me too tbh!
Gonna follow your journey closely hope you get the game out !!!!
Thank you so much, nothin’s gonna stop me! (okay I’m knocking on wood, that was a bad idea to type that)
I commented on your other video at the time but I’ll say it again. Love your content and I’m excited to see what you do !
Thank you friend!! I appreciate it every time 😄
I am really excited for when you release it! good luck for your sleep schedule btw lol
Hahaha thank you!! I’ll try to keep an eye on it 😅😴
In my heart you won the jam
I can't wait for play your game
Thank you, I will endeavor to not disappoint you 🧡
love the game man! has a "don't starve" feel to it which is one of my favorite games of all time, excited to see the release!
Yess I've never played it myself but I did watch a GDC talk about the artstyle (which i loooove)
@@LighthoofDryden definitely give it a try if you can! it might even give you some inspiration on new mechanics and stuff that you can add to disinherited! cheers from brazil!
i am SO excited to play this! i cant wait! you did get robbed of money (Lixians was still great tho) but it created this awesome game! wishlisted!
11:34 exactly me!
disinherited is such an amazing game. the whole idea is is great and the game loop seems so cool! keep it going!
Thank you so much!!! We're just getting started
Jo, you are crazy. This game looks so good and fun. One could really feel that the theme resonated with you. I am really looking forward to see the devlog 💪Think this is the start of a bigger fanbase.
Thank you!!! It really did resonate, I'm glad that came across
I was so sad when you didn't win!! I 100 percent think you deserved it, popularity rigged the vote :( I'm so excited to get the game once it's out!! (no pressure)
Ahh it’s all okay! There were a lot of factors that don’t have to do with popularity. It was such a short voting time frame, and neither of us promoted it to our friends or communities. What matters to me is that you’re excited about it, truly!!!