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  • @artcrown1913
    @artcrown1913 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    Fun Fact: Jacob Tremblay (Baseball Boy) had a blast working on this movie and according to Mike Flanagan actually surprised and scared the cast with how good his acting was during his death scene. Afterwords he got up, high-fived his dad, and proceeded to get a snack from the craft service table (it's worth pointing out that he was also covered in fake blood during all of this). Meanwhile the adult actors just kind of stood there traumatized 😆

    • @vickyvind
      @vickyvind หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Pure talent

    • @zaman3399
      @zaman3399 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yeah that scream OMG, makes me uncomfortable

    • @silentassason
      @silentassason หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I believe it, I was traumatized just watching that scene

    • @barefootanimist
      @barefootanimist หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Jacob's scream turns my stomach, every time I get to that scene.

    • @Serenity113
      @Serenity113 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      His death scene made me turn off the movie for a bit. I had mentally brace myself again to finish watching. Its horrific but with that being said, he did a great job.

  • @textortexel8301
    @textortexel8301 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    23:32 To be fair Rose the Hat is exactly the type of person to read Moby Dick and think "Nah, I'd win".

    • @nickb5371
      @nickb5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Shes hubris incarnate

    • @Smokie_666
      @Smokie_666 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nickb5371 Absolutely

    • @Dilligff
      @Dilligff หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      When she used the term 'whale' she was referring to the modern gaming term for 'cash cow' which are individuals who provide large influxes of income through their spending to mitigate losses from elsewhere. When her second referred to Moby Dick he was trying to warn her that this individual might (and did) prove to be a catch that was far too dangerous to pursue. It was a nice subtle hint that despite them being somewhat anachronistic they still kept up with the more modern lingo to blend in.

    • @davidstenow5055
      @davidstenow5055 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@DilligffI’m pretty sure that the whale metaphor is older, it comes from gambling. Like a high roller, big spender

    • @Wanttowrite
      @Wanttowrite หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@davidstenow5055 That’s how I know the term. I first heard it in Las Vegas TV show (the James Caan one).

  • @DomIstKrieg
    @DomIstKrieg หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    The woman playing Shelly Duvall is amazing. Her voice is absolutely perfect.

    • @fusiliers
      @fusiliers หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The guy doubling for Scatman Crothers is pretty amazing too!

    • @JudoGeoff
      @JudoGeoff หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@fusiliers Carl Lumbly is great in just about everything I've seen him in. He was also in The Fall of the House of Usher (another Mike Flanagan project)

    • @SCharlesDennicon
      @SCharlesDennicon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I expected to see much more of her in the director's cut, it was kinda disappointing.

    • @kylewestlake982
      @kylewestlake982 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And her body language and mannerisms, too. A flawless execution.

    • @riseofazrael
      @riseofazrael หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Alexandra Essoe, she has minor roles in Mike Flanagan's other horror projects on Netflix.

  • @LordVolkov
    @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Danny saying "Help me Tony" when he connects to Abra and Rose is both powerful and heartbreaking when you realize that he is Tony (Danny AnThONY Torrence), sending messages back to his child self.

    • @robertyeah2259
      @robertyeah2259 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s in the book but the movie never really implies it.

  • @joshuacoldwater
    @joshuacoldwater หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    18:52- I agree, but, here is what people don't realize about that little actor Jacob Tremblay. He read the book, read the script, looked over the blocking, came in and did that scene in ONE TAKE. He then stood up SMILED, looked over to his dad and said "Think that was good?" As he was covered in fake blood. Filming that one take DESTROYED the other members of the cast- and it was the only one filmed. Even today Stephen Kind speaks about how seeing that scene, which he wrote, acted out changed his views. There were many seconds he actually couldn't watch.
    Jacob loved being in that scene. Which is the reason he was cast in that role.

    • @BarryHart-xo1oy
      @BarryHart-xo1oy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What a fortunate child.

    • @the_realmkc4452
      @the_realmkc4452 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      cool story bro

    • @AceMoonshot
      @AceMoonshot หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The kid came to act. He and his father had fine tuned the performance to get the maximum effect.
      He and his dad were having a great day, that day. They were very confident in his performance.
      The rest of the cast and crew were caught a bit off guard. Which made it even more enjoyable, I have no doubt lol.

    • @MorriganAtwood
      @MorriganAtwood หลายเดือนก่อน

      The scene in the book is literally just a page long. It's from a pov that is going to be very cold and blase about the whole thing, so it makes sense. It is regarded as such a nothing moment, because the villains don't realize they made a huge mistake (the baseball kid was unvaccinated, so the entire Knot is now infected with a disease they have zero defenses against -- the race to get to Abra is also because eating a steamer who has been vaccinated is their only hope of surviving). So seeing it recontextualized as one of THE horror moments in the movie is refreshing and fascinating to watch. Tremblay did a great job.

    • @chanceneck8072
      @chanceneck8072 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you guys please react to "Room"? One of my favorite movies of all time!

  • @Cadinho93
    @Cadinho93 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    Fun Fact: The guy who was talking in the stands at the baseball game was the original actor to play Danny, who returned to acting just for this film.
    Also, just my opinion, but the "Doctor Sleep Director's Cut" is a million times better than the theatrical version.

    • @snowdenwyatt6276
      @snowdenwyatt6276 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If not for the lack of facial scarring I would have had him pegged as David Meunier (Johnny Crowder on Justified).

    • @Renoistic
      @Renoistic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting. I love the theatrical. I guess I should look it up.

  • @martymcflown3707
    @martymcflown3707 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    The way I need you guys to watch Mike Flanagan's entire filmography (tv series included). He's one of my favorite creators at the moment.

    • @michelle6337
      @michelle6337 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Agreed! I've been watching horror movies for over two decades and he is the first writer/director to make me cry and jump at the same time. His work has so much heart.

    • @b2ickwall978
      @b2ickwall978 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exactly this!

    • @msgSharke
      @msgSharke หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes yes yes!!!!!

    • @mikelor84
      @mikelor84 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@michelle6337 exactly. so much skill and so much soul. I cried my eyes out when I watched Hill House and Midnight Mass

    • @666FallenShadow
      @666FallenShadow หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'M honestly surprised they haven't done any of his netflix shows yet

  • @_Tim115
    @_Tim115 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    Danny Lloyd who played Danny Torrance in the 1980 movie made a cameo appearance as one of the spectators. He only has 3 or 4 movie credits and now world as a Professor of biology at a community college.

    • @NextExiter
      @NextExiter หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not just a spectator, but specifically the one with a speaking role.

    • @jpd9h2i7
      @jpd9h2i7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@NextExiter He's the guy with the goatee at the little league baseball game.

    • @BarryHart-xo1oy
      @BarryHart-xo1oy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to know.

  • @tightyellowshorts
    @tightyellowshorts หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    Attention Hollywood: you can recast parts and not use deepfakes or de-aging, and the audience won't care if the movie delivers.
    I think the original Danny was the baseball coach.

    • @GarrettJayChristian
      @GarrettJayChristian หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @tightyellowshorts Plus pseudo-Jack Nicholson was Henry Thomas, who was Elliot in E.T. 😄

    • @jvgreendarmok
      @jvgreendarmok หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GarrettJayChristian I'm surprised they didn't cast David Harbour.

    • @jpd9h2i7
      @jpd9h2i7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He was the goatee guy at the little league baseball game.

    • @GarrettJayChristian
      @GarrettJayChristian หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jpd9h2i7 @jvgreendarmok I thought he was the bearded guy in the True Knot. 😂

    • @freeheeler00
      @freeheeler00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frickin' eh!

  • @VBane
    @VBane หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    The end of this movie is actually how the original Shining novel ended, Jack was able to overcome the control of the house just enough to stop it from making him vent the boiler so it would blow and he died destroying the hotel. In the Dr Sleep story the final showdown is in a campground where the hotel once stood and Jack's spirit helped Danny stop Rose.

    • @TheNowhereMan0
      @TheNowhereMan0 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Exactly. Flanagan did a great job adapting both the first movie and the sequel written by King.

    • @zimvader25
      @zimvader25 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That’s also how jack dies in the mini series, which not even gonna lie, I enjoyed more than the movie.

    • @HerbertTwack
      @HerbertTwack หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can't help but think that would have worked better

    • @joshbates9015
      @joshbates9015 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There was a made-for-tv version of The Shining made in the early 90s with Stephen Webber as Jack Torrence. Stephen King was involved in the production due to his dislike of Kubrick's version. While closer to the plot in the book, it was low-key pretty awful except for Webber's performance.
      His character was a lot more sympathetic in the beginning and end than Nicholson, who just came off like an unhinged asshole from the get-go. Webber's performance really felt like a flawed man who was trying his best to be good, succumbs to the influence of malevolent forces, and then redeemed himself.
      Oh, and he doesn't kill Dick Halloran, so that's a bonus for him as well!

    • @VBane
      @VBane หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@joshbates9015 Own it on DVD. Not as down on it as other people, though DeMornay is pretty bland compared to Duvall.

  • @montv291
    @montv291 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    In the book, Billy has a bit of shine. That's how he sees things in people. Just a touch of it.

  • @harryfieldson
    @harryfieldson หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    This movie is a perfect reminder that continuing a franchise isn't the problem, doing it purely as a cashcow with zero effort is the problem. What a fun way to reintroduce some of the classic moments.

    • @parker469a
      @parker469a หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It would have actually have been too much of a stretch to introduce as much as a new IP. Building on the old story actually helped it be less of a stretch. The amount of world building to get to the point that movie starts out at is only helped by being a sequel.
      That is what the problem with a lot sequels tend to be, they don't move the story forward enough to be their own story. Setup (act1), turn(act2), then payoff (finale) have to be somewhat equal to feel like a complete story.

    • @ItDoesntMatterReally
      @ItDoesntMatterReally หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually prefer the Doctor Sleep novel over The Shining novel, and I think that's the true tell that King had something to say, and that this wasn't some cheap IP cash grab to bank off one of his more well known works. The movie does a really good job of interweaving the canon of both the film and the book, and I'm not sure if they could've done a better job of main casting either. Some of the re-casts are jarring (the guy playing Jack and a few odd released ghosts toward the end didn't hit the mark, but their screen time was limited), but Carl Lumbly nailed the Scatman Crothers' portrayal of Dick Hallorann and Alex Essoe could pass for Shelly Duvall in some scenes.

  • @nickb5371
    @nickb5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    36:40 Danny pointing out crow wasn't wearing his seat belt was so good

  • @DesertHomesteader
    @DesertHomesteader หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This movie got so overlooked but it is SOOO good. It didn't just do The Shining justice, it explained a lot of things that remained unexplained in The Shining. Rebecca Ferguson was amazing and the little girl was bad ass. Doctor Sleep is a great movie that deserves more attention.

    • @PeacefulJoint
      @PeacefulJoint หลายเดือนก่อน

      I admit, when it first came out I was very hesitant to watch it. I was a surprised how much i actually enjoyed it.

  • @DeckWizard84
    @DeckWizard84 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So a fun thing about this movie is that we see from Abra's room that she's a fan of RWBY and even has a figure of the character Emerald. Emerald has the ability to make people see things that aren't there. When she traps Rose the Hat, Abra has Emerald's hair.

  • @TheGavrael
    @TheGavrael หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was an "Oh man, why make a sequel to such a great film?" that ended up being fantastic. Such a great balance between King and Kubric.

  • @logical-fuzz
    @logical-fuzz หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    14:25 In Stephen King's multiverse, the "shine" is common. "Everybody has got a little bit of shine" to paraphrase. Most people have so little that they're unaware of it. Nearly every child starts out with a stronger shine and it wanes with age. Danny has more than most. As did his father, Jack, which is why the hotel was so interested in him. Very few have the ability to use their shine or even be aware of it. Of those that can, it's sometimes just like a reflexive muscle.

    • @18shuh
      @18shuh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @logical-fuzz I was looking for this comment, thank you

    • @pencilnecked1579
      @pencilnecked1579 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Aye, and between groups like True Knot consuming ones with higher levels of the Shine and the Sombra corporation grabbing them up to become Beam Breakers it certain explains Crow and Rose noticing fewer individuals with higher levels of the Shine are around at the time.

    • @joshfacio9379
      @joshfacio9379 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup, the book also states how its genetic, and if theyre killing the most powerful then there wont be any kids who inherit their gifts.

    • @wertfi908
      @wertfi908 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pencilnecked1579I think it’s also implied that the shining can flare up as a trauma response, meaning the true knot starving is partly because people, and children, aren’t suffering as much abuse and bullying.

  • @neon_pixels
    @neon_pixels หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    38:58 The Hotel being a... well, a being, was more overtly stated in the Shinning novel. When it is destroyed at the end, Danny feels as if some nightmarish thing rises from the ruins and is banished, thus having the story go from supernatural to cosmic horror. Always loved that detail.

    • @fynnthefox9078
      @fynnthefox9078 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol I've always considered the Hotel itself as a villain whenever ranking horror villains.

    • @WillShakes423
      @WillShakes423 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I imagine it being the same way Room 1408 is; a place where so many awful things happened that all of the bad energy builds up in that place and in essence it develops a life all its own. A life that leeches off of that bad energy, lives off the pain and misery and anger and fear of whoever's there at that point, like a parasite. And if they don't give off that energy, it can make things happen. If they don't feel pain, it can cause them pain. If they feel no fear, it can make them afraid. It can do so by using the souls of those it's fed upon, souls that never could move on because of its hold on them. In essence, they're its puppets.

    • @justmelv23
      @justmelv23 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lovvvve 1408

  • @GarrettJayChristian
    @GarrettJayChristian หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    George as the baseball boy is a bleak choice. 😳 Oh, and someone's probably said this on one of the other related videos, but since George is so into the lore expansion, John Coffey from The Green Mile canonically has a version of the Shining.

    • @jeffreydobbins866
      @jeffreydobbins866 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Also it is a being of pure shine. That eats shine himself. Why he scares children to purify them for food. The losers club coming together create a more powerful shine that repels it from harming them.

    • @Shyknit
      @Shyknit 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was today year's old when I found out the green mile was by stephen king...

    • @GarrettJayChristian
      @GarrettJayChristian 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Shyknit AND Shawshank and Stand by Me. Man got range!

  • @mikemeggison5084
    @mikemeggison5084 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    A lot of the things ghost-Jack says are things in his head in the original novel when he goes bad. The book really goes down the rabbit hole of Jack's thoughts.

    • @chance757
      @chance757 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i started the book a while ago and haven’t been able to get through it because of how different jack is. it was easier to despise him in the movie because kubrick made him a jerk from the beginning; it’s so sad to me to read how different he is in the book and how he was fighting not to lose his mind to the hotel 😔

  • @marcscott7382
    @marcscott7382 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    i love rebecca. her facial structure and eyes go crazy.

  • @Kardashev1
    @Kardashev1 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Henry Thomas, who played Elliot in ET, was Jack Torrance, Danny's dad.

    • @Kayjee17
      @Kayjee17 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I thought that was him, but I wasn't sure. He's in The Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor - both tv series also done by Mike Flanagan.

    • @Beshuu
      @Beshuu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@Kayjee17 And "The Fall of the House of Usher", "Midnight Mass", and "The Midnight Club"
      Flanagan tends to use a lot of the same actors in his works.

    • @GeorgeTropicana
      @GeorgeTropicana หลายเดือนก่อน

      Terrible casting

    • @RobbNesvick
      @RobbNesvick หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Disagree. It may not have been great Nicholson duplication, but they needed someone to embody and deliver a great performance. Not just something any old lookalike can manage

    • @Moonbeamchild8
      @Moonbeamchild8 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@RobbNesvickexactly. Agreed

  • @HelloTardis
    @HelloTardis หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A little note for anyone wondering. Danny is always holding back a huge portion of his power to keep all those boxes sealed.
    Think about that! lol

  • @anamorphicmind
    @anamorphicmind หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The original ending to The Shining was the boiler exploding, taking the hotel out. Nice to see the used it as the end to the movie.

  • @derworfnet
    @derworfnet หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Stephen King never liked Kubricks _The Shining,_ and was originally very much against the idea of making an adaptation of his _Doctor Sleep_ novel a straight sequel to Kubricks film. But over time he warmed up to the idea to the point that he finally made his peace with the 1980-film.
    I find it interesting how many bases _Doctor Sleep_ covers: It’s a Sequel to Kubricks film but also an adaptation of the book (which naturally follows the story of the King-Shining, which differs a lot from Kubricks version). In n addition, it also features parts of King‘s Shining-Novel Kubrick didn’t use.

  • @indigozulu9
    @indigozulu9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Mike Flanagan is one of the top tier modern horror directors. It's hard to go wrong with a Mike Flanagan movie or TV show. I would love it if you guys watched Hush from 2016, hands down one of my favorite movies from him, where a deaf woman is being stalked and tormented by a serial killer

  • @dan_evilrobot
    @dan_evilrobot หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I absolutely love this sequel. I did not know this but when Stephen King saw the early screening to Doctor Sleep the scene where the kid gets killed. he said "it was the hardest thing I ever sit down to watch that" and saying it was too much.

  • @jthomann71
    @jthomann71 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Mike Flanagan strikes again. Probably our best modern horror master. He's got Haunting of Hill House, my favorite horror TV show, and this possibly my favorite horror movie.

  • @tremorsfan
    @tremorsfan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The titular cat is inspired by a cat named Oscar that lives in a hospice and is said to sleep on people who are on the edge of death.

  • @artcrown1913
    @artcrown1913 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I was so stoked to find out that you guys were doing this and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Mike Flanagan is definitely high up on my list of favorite horror directors. I can't recommend his stuff enough and I look forward to more potential reactions in the future!

    • @Kayjee17
      @Kayjee17 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm looking forward to his adaptation of The Dark Tower series!

  • @chandru4584
    @chandru4584 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    This cinematic masterpiece failing in the theaters was devastating!

    • @CarloisBuriedAlive
      @CarloisBuriedAlive หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They should have heavily leaned into it being a Shining sequel, even more than they did. Probably should have been called “The Shining: Doctor Sleep”

    • @DannyMiller-p1u
      @DannyMiller-p1u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chandru4584 wow what a bad take

    • @vishnunair7623
      @vishnunair7623 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just goes to show how many people haven't read the books. Mike Flanagan did great justice.

    • @RamblingRose08
      @RamblingRose08 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It also didn't help that it was around the beginning of Covid.

    • @maul42
      @maul42 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RamblingRose08 This came out two months prior to COVID being designated as such, not really a factor.

  • @JakkFrost1
    @JakkFrost1 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I like how this movie kinda brought things full circle back to the original ending of the first book, with the boiler finally blowing and destroying the hotel.

    • @wertfi908
      @wertfi908 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JakkFrost1 I also love how they also brought back the villains as an allegory for substance abuse, the thing that King really missed in the shining movie

  • @CineRam
    @CineRam หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    For some reason, I completely missed that Jack Torrance is played by Henry Thomas in this movie. I didn't recognize him at all. Of course, he's changed a bit since he was in "E.T.", but it's not as though I'd never seen Adult Elliott before. He's been in plenty of stuff, such as "Gangs of New York". He's worked with the director before.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Mike has used Henry a couple times in his TV series. Mike's collection of favorites/regulars is something I really enjoy in his work.

    • @aeneasfate
      @aeneasfate หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Henry Thomas is the only Dad Mike Flanagan will ever accept.

    • @stevemccullagh36
      @stevemccullagh36 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I also missed until this reaction that Violet is played by the same actress who played young Nell in Flanagan's version of The Haunting of Hill House.

    • @BarryHart-xo1oy
      @BarryHart-xo1oy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quite true.

  • @smileyjosh
    @smileyjosh หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    If you like this, you would LOVE Gerald's Game!

    • @Shyknit
      @Shyknit 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you do that to Simone 😭

  • @Prowl76
    @Prowl76 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Abra did end up becoming their white whale in the end.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's interesting that they fixate on Abra when Danny shines just as strong, if not stronger. Keeping his shine on the DL really saved Danny's life.

    • @666FallenShadow
      @666FallenShadow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LordVolkov if i'm not mistaken rose mentions that older people have their shine contaminated and less pure, that's why they keep targeting kids in the movie

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@666FallenShadow True, but they missed him when he was little and using his Shine constantly with Tony. His trauma from the Overlook and subsequent alcoholism suppressed his Shine for so long they just never found him.

  • @alyxgriffen5073
    @alyxgriffen5073 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Since in the novel, *The Shining,* the Overlook Hotel was destroyed at the end, there was no showdown in the hotel at the end of the novel of *Doctor Sleep.* In the novel, both Danny and Abra's father survived.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The scene Danny has with the ghost of his father, makes me think the original Lloyd, from the Shining, was Danny’s Grandfather. In the book, Danny’s grandfather was also a alcoholic.

  • @ferchrissakes
    @ferchrissakes หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Another vote for “you need to watch all of Mike Flanagan’s work”. Seriously. Best shows in years.
    Very different stories each one, but you’ll see a lot of the same actors; Flanagan tends to work with the same ones.

    • @thomasriddle7005
      @thomasriddle7005 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you like trauma than Flanagan is your guy!

    • @Shyknit
      @Shyknit 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thomasriddle7005 Trauma and bittersweet endings

  • @DavetheGrue
    @DavetheGrue หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I am surprised but very pleased to see this get a reaction; I didn't think enough people had seen it. I really like its more low-key horror style.

  • @tackysum
    @tackysum หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The "remember berries" only served as garnish for the overall story, not as primary dish which makes for a masterful filmmaker. I love all of Mike Flanagan's work. Great reaction guys. Simone, you handled that pretty well.

  • @tylerfoster6267
    @tylerfoster6267 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Obviously, you're free to interpret whatever you feel like, but I think it really is just supposed to be Jack (Torrance, that is). He has been inserted into the role of the bartender for the sake of the scene, but I don't think that means it isn't Jack in any way. The reality is just that Jack Nicholson is such an indelible figure both in pop culture in general and in The Shining itself, there's just no way you can cast someone else and have it live up to how people remember Nicholson in that film, so I think while he looks and sort of acts like him, I also don't think he's trying, because it's impossible. He's serving the scene in this movie between Danny and his dad, and not doing a Nicholson imitation, which is wise, because it'd be distracting. (If they'd wanted a Jack Nicholson impression, they could've cast Christian Slater, who is often considered to be imitating Nicholson, instead of the kid from E.T.; Nicholson himself has been unofficially but pretty obviously retired since 2010.)
    I think the importance of Greenwood's character's office echoing the hotel manager's is great because it's where the characters get a job that changes the trajectory of their lives. The difference is that of course it transforms Jack's journey negatively and Danny's journey positively.
    Firestarter is indeed a different Stephen King book. For the purposes of the joke you might as well imagine that he said Danny went on to marry Annie Wilkes, although of course part of it is that both the character from Firestarter and Danny are young children with supernatural abilities.
    The TV miniseries of "The Shining" is widely hated, because the movie is widely beloved, and it was made mostly because of King's hatred of the movie. It's amazing how well Flanagan manages to navigate the challenge of delivering on a movie that successfully adapts King's book (which was written after he hated Kubrick's film) while also making a sequel to the original movie.
    Further down in the trivia section, it notes that the ending to this movie is basically the ending to the original novel, which is one of the reasons Kubrick hated the movie: Jack overcomes the Overlook for long enough to let Danny and Wendy escape, and burns the hotel to the ground. This is the reason why King was accepting of Flanagan's vision and why returning to the Overlook became so important, as it rights that perceived wrong of the Kubrick film.
    Ultimately, I think the movie is really great, although I do feel like it succumbs slightly to "member berries" disease at the end when they return to the hotel. Danny looking around the room is reasonably justified, if he's looking for Jack's spirit, but I find Rose simply staring at the blood elevator and the appearance of Horace Derwent (the "great party!" guy) to be a little less necessary, and I could probably do with one less instance of the shower woman pulling back the curtain. That said, it's a small complaint. This director's cut also adds more to Danny's journey to sobriety, which I think is extremely important because that's what the movie is mostly about in a dramatic sense.

  • @Nixxsixx420
    @Nixxsixx420 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was such an amazing sequel. The attention to detail in the hotel amazed me. You can really see how much Mike Flanagan admires and respects the horror genre. Awesome reaction guys!

  • @fallenhero3130
    @fallenhero3130 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So glad you guys watched this! I saw this movie back when it came out and it got very little attention, but am happy it has slowly built a fanbase these last few years. I really appreciate that it doesn't try to be THE SHINING 2. It does its own thing, and it zigs where THE SHINING zags. With that said, I seem to be in the minority in that I prefer the Theatrical Cut, which is more streamlined. The Director's Cut isn't bad; it just adds a lot more and makes some scenes much longer than they need to be.

  • @andrewwiggin
    @andrewwiggin หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Doctor Sleep is an absolute classic. Abra is so powerful she can sense Danny's shine. She might have contacted him earlier but his drinking muted his shine. This movie goes hard.

    • @DannyMiller-p1u
      @DannyMiller-p1u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewwiggin it's shit

    • @justmelv23
      @justmelv23 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the book she reaches to him even as a baby

  • @DavetheGrue
    @DavetheGrue หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    "The good guy is now the scary one." Yeah, the movie makes it pretty clear Abra has a dark side.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The brightest lights can cast the darkest shadows.

    • @ianrosenbalm6555
      @ianrosenbalm6555 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True! The fact that she was really willing to fight back pretty early on. Anyone ready to fight monsters has to be willing to become a monster themselves---that's the darkness that serves you.

  • @vickyvind
    @vickyvind หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Rebecca Ferguson ATE! And thats all im saying 🙌

  • @caveritt82489
    @caveritt82489 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hope this is the first of many Mike Flanagan movies/series you guys do!!

  • @JonnySativaSeed23
    @JonnySativaSeed23 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The casting in all of Mike Flanagan's works is perfect.

  • @ashleywetherall
    @ashleywetherall หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of my favourite sequels . Not only is a great Stephen King film, it does the impossible by holding with Kubrick's visual style while keeping most of Kings story intact. That said there are a number of changes from the novel. But for me they work perfectly for this film..

  • @Xervello
    @Xervello หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Loved this, thanks for reacting to it!
    Welcome to the world of Mike Flanagan horror. If you like this type of deeper, deliberate horror, I highly recommend checking out his The Haunting of Hill House series (only ten episodes long) and Midnight Mass (only 7 episodes) or some of his other films like Oculus, Hush and Before I Wake.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oculus is really good! I didn't know who Flanigan was when it came out, but connecting it to all his other work shows how much talent he had right out of the gate.

  • @ashleywetherall
    @ashleywetherall หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the fact that The actor playing Jack also helped ET to go home...

  • @jacobalbores
    @jacobalbores หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Alex Essoe, who plays Wendy Torrance, has quite the horror filmography. Worth checking them out, specifically Starry Eyes.

  • @CraigWelchans
    @CraigWelchans หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I always think of Grounds Keeper Willie, got the shinning boy😊

  • @heregellas
    @heregellas หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I loved the Mistborn reference btw you guys told ahah, being a big fan of Sanderson's works I wasn't expecting to hear that during a movie reaction :D

    • @Hortonfantastic4
      @Hortonfantastic4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah he references Stormlight occasionally too

  • @richardb6260
    @richardb6260 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since the Overlook burns down at the end of book, The Shining, and the climax of the book, Doctor Sleep, takes place at the site, which is little more than the foundation, the director asked permission from King to change the ending so it took place in the still standing Overlook. Since King is not a fan of Kubrick's film, the director thought he should check with King before he referenced the movie.

  • @nickb5371
    @nickb5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    40:26 Danny looking through the door is so cool especially when you take into account as a child he wasn't even there for this scene and learned about it by looking into the doorway just now

  • @nickb5371
    @nickb5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2:46 all the recreation scenes are AMAZING they did so well

  • @IndySidhu88
    @IndySidhu88 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glad you’re watching the extended version. This film is one of the best sequels ever made. This and Blade Runner 2049 are perfect sequels. It creates a sequel that satisfies the book retroactively and film independently, respectively. The same Mike Flanagan actors from his other projects are really great here too.
    A great sequel and companion to the book and film The Shining.
    Dick Hallorann tells Danny that “shining” is, at its core, a fusion of telepathy and clairvoyance. Being able to shine means being able to communicate with others using the mind, and gives people the ability to see things that have happened in the past, or will happen in the future.
    There’s also no major revelation about the connection between Dan and Abra in the movie. In the book, when Dan goes to visit Concetta (book character) , he learns that Abra’s mother is none other than Jack Torrance’s daughter. Yes, the book’s version of Dan and Abra’s mom are half-siblings, which means that the character that Abra chooses to call “Uncle Dan” really is, well, Uncle Dan. This fact might have made it easier to understand why Abra and Dan maintain such a firm connection, and possibly even suggest that shining powers are hereditary.

  • @rikmoran3963
    @rikmoran3963 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    When I watched this, I didn't know it was a sequel to The Shining. All I knew was that it was a horror film of sorts. Needless to say, I absolutely loved it, and it was a great surprise. i couldn't have believed that someone could do a sequel to The Shining that ended up being a great movie in its own right.

    • @almightyshippo1197
      @almightyshippo1197 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I came into the movie blind too. I just came across it one day, thought it sounded like an interesting horror movie, and gave it a shot. It had been so long since I saw The Shining that I didn't even make the connection right away, I certainly wasn't expecting a sequel to that classic bit of horror. I agree completely, it's an amazing movie in its own right. They really nailed it.

  • @TheNeonRabbit
    @TheNeonRabbit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked that they got a Jack Torrance that looked enough like Nicholson to be sure we know who it's supposed to be but they didn't do a Nicholson impersonation, same with Duvall and Scatman.

  • @nessaarandur7740
    @nessaarandur7740 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jacob Tremblay who played Bradley Trevor (Baseball Boy) was also in Room with Brie Larson and the voice of Flounder in the new Little Mermaid. A bunch of other things as well.
    I also love that Abra was so badass in this - it was a great representation of what Danny could have been if his father hadn't been an alcoholic. George hit the nail on the head that this (and the Shinning) is all just an allegory for the struggle with alcoholism and how trauma can be the demons we pass on to our kids.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    There were talks of a prequel to the movie, Halloran, where it would have involved Dick Halloran and how he received his Shining abilities, but it was cancelled as the film was a box office disappointment. However, Mike Flanagan was interested in making a sequel with Abra Stone.

  • @markpekrul4393
    @markpekrul4393 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    IMHO, the original The Shining was a series of individually brilliant moments awkwardly connected by, for Kubrick, surprisingly sub-par filmmaking (after the Kubrickians come for me, tell my story!). THIS is a great film. It ties both novels and both films exquisitely. Ewan McGregor gives one of his best performances, and Kyliegh Curran as Abra is remarkable.
    The scene where the little-leaguer was killed was so hard emotionally on the adult actors that they had to keep stepping away...the kid apparently LOVED it.

  • @potterj09
    @potterj09 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cliff Curtis was casted here perfectly I gotta say. He plays that measure of the tough love only a good and exampliary sponsor knows. My guess is he's legit seen alot outside of acting. I've loved him since Once Were Warriors.

  • @BadassRaiden
    @BadassRaiden หลายเดือนก่อน

    In case you didn't notice, the director is Mike Flanagan, famed creator of the Netflix Originals Haunting of Hill House, Haunting of Bly Manor, The Fall of the House of Usher, and Midnight Mass. If you notice, the little girl in the beginning, the first victim is the little girl who plays young Nelly in Haunting of Hill House, and the gentleman "filling in" for Jack Nicholson is the guy who played the main character's father in Midnight Mass, the young version of the father in Hill House, the uncle of in the wealthy Wingrave family in Bly Manor, and the eldest Usher son in House of Usher.

  • @ZenzeroCAM
    @ZenzeroCAM หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I FUCKING LOVED THIS MOVIE! Perfect balance of creepy and nostalgia fan service

  • @Patriiiiick
    @Patriiiiick หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love all the fade cuts in this film. Reminds me of Mandy.

  • @Marky11694
    @Marky11694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This scene was put in to fix The Shining since in the original Story Stephen King had written Jack Torrence would regain his sanity and in his last moments he would blow up the Hotel by not doing anything to fix his previous mistake and allowing the pressure to build up in the Boiler. This of course occurred because Danny realized that Jack forgot to relieve pressure on the boiler and tells the hotel that it's about to explode.

  • @andrewhelmer6853
    @andrewhelmer6853 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Oh God …… waiting for THAT scene . So difficult to watch and listen to .
    I know it wrecked me , can only imagine how Simone and George will react …. 😢

  • @MatthewBarton-8440
    @MatthewBarton-8440 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The guy talking about the little league baseball player about hitting the ball at the game when he's at bat, is the original Danny Torrence from THE SHINNING all grown up.

  • @MoviesandCoffee
    @MoviesandCoffee หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mike Flanagan is amazing: The Haunting of Hill House (2019), Bly Manor, Oculus, Ouija Origin of Evil, all perfection

  • @JosephHernandez-u1n
    @JosephHernandez-u1n 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rebecca Ferguson actually cried from the baseball boy's performance right before she was supposed to act her part of the scene.

  • @MrZeek1519
    @MrZeek1519 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doctor Sleep was so underrated in my opinion. Great movie.

  • @GlynDwr-d4h
    @GlynDwr-d4h หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dan lives in the book. Also, the woman who plays his mom was in a great body horror film called Starry Eyes. She's great in that one too.

  • @falcychead8198
    @falcychead8198 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:20 I love that she has Danny's eyes at this point, that's such a cool touch.

  • @tankosaurus
    @tankosaurus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    42:15 Well yeah. Assuming I'm remembering correctly That was the whole point of the Shinning. King was getting out his demons about his own alcoholism, and that's one of the main grips he had about the what Stanley Kubrick did with the movie. In the book jack was man plagued by alcohol and other issues, but just an average man. He could have gone either way but the hotel won. In the movie, he was already someone who hated his wife and kid before he got there, the hotel was just a setting for his control to break.

  • @lontollison6771
    @lontollison6771 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The true horror all those little kids falling victim to the big tobacco vaping campaign

  • @pillar81
    @pillar81 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first victim we see in this movie has actually been in a Mike Flanagan miniseries, Haunting of Hill House, before Doctor Sleep. She was also in the Black Widow movie, as well as in M3GAN. Also, Henry Thomas, who plays ghost Jack Torrance is a Regular on Mike Flanagan shows as well.

  • @backgroundMASCAL
    @backgroundMASCAL หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    must watch for Halloween : "Barbarian" 2022 by Zach Cregger

  • @TheLegendOfOblivion
    @TheLegendOfOblivion หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Doctor Sleep is so good, Mike Flanagan is awesome! I've loved his shows but to see him in action with a movie AND it was an awesome movie. I swear everything Mike Flanagan touches is horror gold.

  • @1938superman
    @1938superman หลายเดือนก่อน

    42:43 This actor playing the ghost of Danny's father was the same actor who played the kid from ET.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like what they did with the source material. The book is a sequel to the book version of the Shining. They wrote the movie to be a sequel to the Kubrick movie and too elements of the book that he didn’t adapt to come to a good middle ground for the movie. The book had a broken furnace that was a key to the story but Kubrick took that out to focus on the Hedge maze instead of Hedge Animals. The title means Danny has the ability to cross over souls to the other side. There is a cameo from the actor that played Danny as a child now all grown up in this movie. He is a spectator in the baseball stands.

  • @burnikshrapnel
    @burnikshrapnel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jack Torrance was played by Henry Thomas. A Flanagan regular and played Elliot in ET.

  • @jimballard1186
    @jimballard1186 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this movie. It breaks my heart in a couple of places. I agree about the callbacks being earned: it's a movie about generational trauma, after all. The cycle repeats.

  • @gersonribeiro374
    @gersonribeiro374 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun fact, Abra calling Danny uncle Dan is a reference to the fact that in the book Abra's mom is Denny's half sister.

  • @mk.........
    @mk......... หลายเดือนก่อน

    The smell of a decaying body is the most memorable there is. You can never get rid of it again.

  • @louielouie22
    @louielouie22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alien Abduction 2014. This movie was filmed from a kids camcorder. 😱🤯

  • @WarrChan
    @WarrChan หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked it. Just the fact that there wasn’t a 20 minute drive up to the overlook in the beginning already beats the Shining.

  • @jjkk1630
    @jjkk1630 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Having read Moby Dick myself, I don't know if I could sincerely recommend it to anyone without mentioning the full implications of what reading it would entail. The thing to be aware of with Moby Dick is that it's a very long book, but only about half of it tells a story.
    What you guys should do though is react to the 1956 film version of Moby Dick with Gregory Peck as Captain Ahab, which is a classic of cinema and a very good translation of the story into film.

  • @TrentRushton
    @TrentRushton หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ending of this movie is like the book the Shining, Jack has a small redemption like Danny has in this movie.

  • @Marky11694
    @Marky11694 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    42:10 Bingo. Yes it is meant to be an allegory on Alcoholism and letting the alcohol take your Sanity

  • @benjamansharer7969
    @benjamansharer7969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Simpne asked if he had ever smelled a dead body, i can safely say i have! It was my mom and she was dead for about 5-6 months locked up in her apartment, A/C turned off and it was in the middle of a heatwave of 100°+ daily temps.
    Its a smell you just cant forget, ...ever!

  • @Arkyncrest
    @Arkyncrest หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel that this & ALIENS are the absolute pinnacle when it comes to sequels.
    Every shot is permeated with Flanagan's awe & reverence for the IP. That he was able to merge King & Kubrick just speaks to his ability as director.
    I still feel it's one of the greatest cinematic sins of the past 10 years that this film hasn't received more recognition.

  • @jeffmartin1026
    @jeffmartin1026 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @ 28:00 "'cuz we know what's going to happen" - lol! This is the rare case when the movie is actually better than the book.

  • @DAVIDELLIOTT
    @DAVIDELLIOTT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact: the bartender in the hotel (Henry Thomas) is the little boy from ET

  • @feudist
    @feudist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is how you do a sequel to a legendary movie.
    Abra is great.
    She psychically experiences the brutal torture/murder of a child by the vilest of creatures and her reaction isn't fear, or even horror.
    It's fury.
    She's as hard as a coffin nail.
    My guess is she went on to a career as a Slayer.

    • @brozy5720
      @brozy5720 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Abra the Steampire Slayer :)

    • @feudist
      @feudist หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brozy5720 In every generation, there is a Chosen One...

  • @IvanDavison
    @IvanDavison หลายเดือนก่อน

    We were not expecting a Sharky and George reference today...
    But we all thank you for it Simone.

  • @pauldourlet
    @pauldourlet หลายเดือนก่อน

    Footnote --the Bartender at the Hotel (Lloyd)is played by Henry Thomas, who was the boy Elliott in E.T

  • @locnar1
    @locnar1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the book Danny survives. Also the book explains Abra's mother is Danny"s illegitimate half sister.

  • @milostewart8738
    @milostewart8738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such an amazing sequel. I didn’t have high hopes for this when I watched it on dvd, but I was SOOOO impressed with it. I wish I would have seen it in the theater!! They did an AMAZING job with this movie and balanced the original book with the original movie so well. I wish they could have made more Abra movies.