i do feel bad for him but he deserved his fate. which what made this scene all the more effective. i felt this is the turning point in johnny’s life as he sober up to his past action.
@@nikki5499 lol I saw it as kinda the opposite, I pretty much said as I made the choice "don't fuck up this second chance Johnny" and well I mean he did a little by not telling everyone what happened, all those messages from the other characters that had no idea what was going on kinda hurt ngl
That ending is the canon ending in my eyes especially if you manage to make V and Johnny become friends. It just doesn't make sense for V to take back control of his body knowing he'll die and take Johnny with him in six months. It's much more tragic if he lets Johnny have his body. Johnny gets a second chance at life and do things differently, it's not a happy ending, but it's the happiest ending either character will get. I took that quote as him saying ''the life I lead from this day forward is for V''.
I genuinely thought that every time I saw Johnny I'd think "haha funny Keanu man haha", but I actually didn't. He was his own separate character and not once did I really consider the fact that it was Keanu Reeves. Sure, it crossed my mind but I didn't _consider_ him as just Keanu Reeves.
It's pure Keanu Reeves, it's not only his character. The way he acts is just... dunno. You can feel the emotions, everything. He was the best actor for this role, I think he himself sympathizes with Johnny the same way he sympathizes with John Wick. Keanu Reeves is helluva man, not some "haha funny Keanu man haha", I really appreciate him.
"Listen, I realize I fucked up a lot of things. Either let down or used every last person who gave me their trust. Blind, selfish bastard that I was. But i’ve managed one thing for now. Not to fuck this up, what we have."
"Johnny Silverhand, relentless rocker boy who never gives up!" "V. First among suckers." That was a really well-executed lighthearted moment for such a heavy scene. It's a tough emotion to describe. Great game.
I agree, it was a moment to softly cope with the existentialism. Johnny knowing the results of his life amounted to nothing yet at the beginning he was so adamant to tell you, "Johnny Silverhand died a fucking legend," meant something to him. He strongly believed he mattered. All that egotistical, uptune, and pretending to know more than he actually didn't. A front that broke apart in that one scene. The lighthearted moment was a feeling of comfort that he just needed a little to feel good even though he felt like crap.
@@joeldelgado1376 I think Johnny was joyful in that scene because he realized that not all is yet lost. Note that in order to hear this dialogue, V has to say that Johnny used V and can’t trust him at all. Then you have to say that you’ll give him the last second chance. As for why he was sad, he said it: he thought there would at least be a marker after him. But then, that doesn’t exclude what you said. Nice write up.
For me, the conversation at Silverhands' grave was the pinnacle of the game's story, atmosphere, character, and overall just my favorite scene. Johnny, up until this point, has been nothing but a pompous, arrogant, self-consumed rockerboy rebel, blinded by rage for corporations and himself, but by Chippin' In he's matured from an anarchist rockstar to a man keenly aware he lost everything well before his death, hoping to atone while unintentionally murdering the one friend he's ever had. We see man wanting to change, to seek redemption, and wanting companionship.
While the story of V and Silverhand is depressing, I love how johnny seeks redemption after his death. It's sad seeing him trying to interact with his old buddies through V.
It also plays when you find Evelynn dead, but not with this specific OST. Pretty much a perfect use of this song since it turns out to be heartbreaking.
This is the scene that made me trust Johnny. I gave him my body to spend time with rogue and never regretted it. Johnny even fights for you in the end.
I had them be best friends, then V let Johnny take over and storm Arosaka tower with Rogue, then when the choice came Johnny let V live on and sacrificed himself.
The guitar that comes in around the two minute mark really hits home, and the synth waves around 2:30. It makes you feel so alone, isolated. You almost sympathize with Johnny, you understand his difficulties even if they’re killing you, even if he’s killing you. You’re both approaching your end so you reflect in that light in the graveyard, a Night City Legend without a grave and a mercenary fighting to survive. This wasn’t what I signed up for, but I couldn’t be happier with what I got.
@@overlooker17 Tears are never a sign of weakness, embrace the fact you’re able to enjoy this medium of storytelling and feel these emotions. Reflecting on them in a way to your own life is a very beautiful thing, don’t forget that choomba.
SPOILER ALRERT!!! This song plays again in the ending where Johnny lives; and V & Rogue die. It’s a bittersweet ending 🥺 !!! The OST crew are mad talented 💯💯💯
"Lets say it was my real grave, what would you write? Here lies Johnny Silverhand..." "...The guy who saved my life." "V... you don't know how much I want that to be true."
I know The Rebel Path is the motif most associated with Johnny, but to me, this song encapsulates him a lot more. Just a sad, lonely man fighting a battle he can't win.
If this game can teach us anything, its to appreciate our time here in this world, we spend so much time planing ahead racing to a nonexistant finish line.
@@linuxtuxvolds5917 Cyberpunk is FULL of moral, political, religious, and social commentary. Not even Cyberpunk 2077, but the whole genre of "bladerunner-style" cyberpunk sci-fi. Johnny's "path to redemption" is fascinating in so many ways. The idea of a man having a chance to reconcile his own death and horrible failures, while not wanting to fall prey and "fuck this up" again in his second and last chance at having a life and a friend? That's some inspiring writing right there. The stories told in games can carry as much weight as a book or a movie and some would argue even moreso. It's not an "inferiority complex" to find meaning in a scene clearly designed to be slow, thoughtful and emotional.
The symbolism of the location in this scene is heartshattering for me. The oil is literally a result of the decomposition of millions of corpses, that lasted millions of years. This black sludge is like a void, where different dead creatures turn to drops of the one black ocean. The fact that Johnny doesn't even know where exactly his body is buried perfectly emphasizes this dissolving into death and nothingness. The exact opposite of words "Never Fade Away"
@@Mr.Scott86 not necessarily, it also draws a lot of inspiration in it's core premise from "Do not go gentle into that good night" by Dylan Thomas. I think that whatever you do in this world you're fucked, there is no real "good" or "bad" choice at this point, it's rather telling you to do all you can, so that you will be happy in the end. Put simply, you will die anyways, live it fully. Or as Dylan Thomas puts it *Rage, Rage against the dying of the light*
This really hits in a way that a video game never did before. I feel like I was really there with them, lived trough what they did. In a way I feel like I was also in V's head, or maybe I was V. I don't know anymore. I just know I'll miss Johnny and I'll miss the friendship we had together. All the moments that made this ending worth it. In the end, it's also time for me to move on and focus on my life. Never stop fighting either, god only knows it'll be a tough road ahead.
Johnny has to be one of the best written characters from any game. His interactions and growing relationship with V is what makes this game's story fantastic.
Exactly!!! I thought only movies could give this sort of emotional response but I’m glad we’re now moving into an era where games are being made to quality standard; in terms of story 💯
I feel like the graphics play their part in that regard, as well. Facial animations and faces overall, combined with gestures and near photorealistic environments immersed me more than any other game could have before.
The moment when the rockstar, the rebel, the legendary johnny Silverhand realized that his lifelong righteous fight for a meaning, for a change in the corporate world (be it by guitar or terrorism) amounted, in the end, to nearly nothing. Arasaka was right back where it was before the bomb, stronger than ever. The people more dependent on the system than ever before and most of his musical legacy as a rebel rockstar right among his few real friends: long dead or forgotten. An unmarked, nameless grave in the middle of nowhere.
The game is great. Soundtrack, characters, questline were incredibly good. This scene made me think about life, and I cried at the end of main story. So emotional. I'm glad to see people who liked the game. I hug you all.
The Never Fade Away riff is nice, but I feel like it's the defeated wail that cries out in the background that truly brings this whole motif to an emotional edge. Never Fade Away is just Johnny's facade, it's that wail that represents his true feelings in this scene.
I know its awesome I wish it was apart of the main story either that v just see silverhands arm on him permanently as he becomes johnny more and more or that v literally gets Johnny's arm and gets it installed
Only other game that hit my feels so hard was RDR2 with Arthur Morgan. Fuck... Who ever says video games aren't art is someone who never played a game like these.
I remember sitting there at the oil fields with Johnny, this music playing in the background, the two of us having a deep conversation about this strange bond between us. It was a beautiful moment, a heart to heart talk with Johnny that showed how much he changed after living in my head. I said he was the guy who saved my life. He said he wanted that to be true. But I didn't... because it would have meant only one thing for Johnny, and I wasn't ready to evict the voice in my head. :(
"Here lies Johnny Silverhand..." "The guy who saved my life" *Never Fade Away riff starts* "You don't know how much i want that to be true" Fuck man, that moment hits hard...after this one particular scene, every time i replayed the game from the start to try a different lifepath and build i just can't not be friends with Johnny
It seems to me that the official soundtrack are all tracks that are just a part of the main story. Songs from side quests and stuff aren’t a part of it
I knew it would be sad saying goodbye to Johnny, these 2 weeks were really rough but fun too. Johnny was a great character, what is also really great, he felt like a real human being, despite having Keanu's appearance. They nailed characters in this game, every one of them feels like a real person, and it was really really sad that V and Johnny couldnt be together no matter what you do. Connections like this define you even in real life, they affect your whole vision of what the life is.
The thing about these melancholic pieces is the are double edged swords: at one end they're fucking beautiful and memorable, and at another they make me reflect on my shitty life
The part where the e-guitar kicked in was finally the theme I found when you picked up Evelyn's body to bring her away. This theme is just such a brilliant one in my opinion that I can't stop listening to it. Thank you so much for uploading this
depends on your point of view sure V dies and the city won but its how you die that matters do you die chained and shackled to a corporation that doesn't give 2 shits about you or do you die surrounded by friends and those that care about you? Or do you die doing something equally legendary sticking your middle finger out and telling the world YOU LIVED? Or do you die to save a comrade's life from cyberspace hell? Do you put it all to rest and leave the world behind? Sometimes its not the ending that matters. Sometimes its the journey that gets you there. From my own viewpoint V was a merc which have very short lifespans hence the name from the club the "afterlife" all legends have short ends and did something to earn it. As V i wasn't willing to risk the lives of those I cared about. Equally i wasn't willing to let johnny risk his own chooms lives instead of biting the bullet i went the way of a legend storming hell itself and walked away. As painful as endings go the journey to being a legend means sacrifice. In other versions of my previous playthroughs you can also go through it and realize that being a legend aint all that its cracked up to be and walk away still a legend but die surrounded by those who actually give a shit about you. The ambiguity is what makes it an interesting story. Tragedy is sadly a genre that isnt popular with people now everybody wants sunshine and daisies happy endings. Sometimes tragedies are what make you realize that sometimes you don't always win.
Honestly listening to these tracks again and perusing clips on youtube, and talking to you guys in the comments is my therapy right now. After completing the game 1st time couple days ago (i reloaded to see a few endings) Ive been in a total malaise of melancholy ever since. Ive read about this phenomena called Post Game Depression that affects many people after they get to the end of a show, book or other medium that had a profound effect on them. Hanging around here in lockdown just discussing the game's events and emotions is what's getting me over it. I'm sure this time next week i'll be blowing up mechs or flying spaceships in another game and feeling great but right now, let's just [Lean on wall] and look out at Night City some more and remember.
This game still fucks me up when I think about it in depth, and I really haven't felt this way about any other game, not that I can think of. Jackie's death left me feeling weird for a couple weeks before I picked the game back up; and even though I got the nomad ending w/Panam romance, it _still_ left me feeling weird for another week. This game is like a 6/10 imho, why is this doing so many things to my mental health ;-;
I felt the exact same way. The realization that none of V’s choices can end up being just fine, happy. Something, someone’s gotta give in every ending. Its soul-crushing but also a beautiful story and I think it feels this way because it nailed all the themes it was going for, which were all pretty heavy. But yea I didn’t wanna say bye to johnny or the story, I wasn’t/am not ready for it to be over. Ready for these expansions next year hopefully though!!
@@TheJuggerClutch Same, very happy to hear they havent lost heart over the negative launch, and that DLCs / expansions are coming. Also this comment confused me at first coz my first name's Mark haha, coincidence. I figured it's been a year since i made the comment above and fancied trying CP77 again, got as far as the soundtrack and thought "nope". Not ready for that yet haha. Such a strange mental effect.
Things that make you feel like this, are far and few between. But, alot of them have to do with death. I guess, its a bittersweet feeling? Sometimes atleast, most times its just pure sadness and acceptance. The ending i got for the game was bittersweet, the ending in edgerunners was pretty much pure sadness. But both hit me with that depression
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin I think you're on the money here. It honestly reminds me of the sinking feeling people get not long after losing a family member or a messy breakup. I think overral it's just a reaction to some form of loss, and yeah it is bittersweet alot of the time.
sooo true if only there was no bugs and if the game was improved a little bit like improving the ai i would be so sure that this would be a great game of the year contender
@@interstellar95 lmao. No. Just because they are cd projekt red doesn't mean they can get away with everything. The one time naughty dog messes up everyone starts sending death threats but since this is cd projekt red they don't deserve the backlash?. Yes the story was really good but that doesn't excuse the fact that they promised a product that will satisfy us. And they said they will release it when it's ready but then release it when it's far from ready.
@@cxruptexternity CDPR got the same reactions... the story got overshadowed by the lack of polishing. Again, people need to point things out... but the way they did it was toxic and unfair af. And I wasn't even on the "HYPEEEE" wagon to begin with.
@@zurkke Thing is, they marketed the game as the next gta, this was the biggest mistake. Most of the people that hate the game are either: Not interested in the story and only wanted a future gta or just do it for the memes because this is the popular opinion. This game is story first and everything else later but sadly most people would not give the game a chance, what a bummer.
I'm playing through the game for my second time. First time was after the initial big fix after launch. I largely relied on fast travel and skipping most dialogue to get through the game. But when PL came out I restarted and played a whole new way. I was blown away to see that you can COMPLETELY miss out on this incredible scene. What an incredible game. When the option "The Guy who saved my life" came up I kinda got emotional. That whole scene is perfection. I wish I could play this game forever and never reach the end of the experience.
Played that part at night, realising how much Nightcity has taken from V and yet he thinks he could beat the system (maybe it was Johnny thoughts). When we are taking the pills it feels like we could leave reality leave Nightcity and we can, but for how long. Good message from the game that we can't always beat our demons, sometimes we have to run away from them so we can realeases ourselves... Maybe, don't know actually. Tripping my balls on acid while listen to this, soooo good :,)
I don't know if it was supposed to happen but this kept playing after I left the fields and headed towards the lake as per Johnny's request. The soundtrack continuing to play as I drove in my new owned Porce 911 through the entire journey was a really deep experience. I felt down and deep ya know? Relaxed, heavy, humbled, in my thoughts, sad, blah blah. I wouldn't have felt that if this didn't continue to play in the background. Music is powerful when produced well.
a nice thought, but the vocals wouldn't have fit into this i reckon. it emphasises on the instruments more and adds to the ambience and the emotions during this scene. the vocals would've been distracting
all i wanted is the game to have no bugs, just to see people talking about how cyberpunk 2077 plot is soo goddamn good, instead of how broken it is, it's sad that the bugs kinda ruined this experience for such a giant portion of people
This game blew my mind, and I don't know if anything will ever beat Cyberpunk 2077's character writing. I really hope that CDPR goes back on their promise, and make another DLC
Seeing the nothing that was Johnny's final resting place gave him the reality check he needed. He might be justifiably jaded and right about corps and Arasaka, but it doesn't excuse being a toxic cunt to your friends. It's a good life lesson. If you prioritize being right over being nice, you're gonna end up like Johnny did. He got lucky.
Except some bugs, cyberpunk 2077 is a masterpiece. I was so sad when Johnny regret about his past life and about what he was doing wrong. In the end of the game I let Johnny keep the body so he can try to live without regrets.
"Most people I thought were my friends, they couldn't even stand to be in the same room as me. You're fucking closest to me by a long shot. There, twenty-four seven. And yet... you don't seem to hate my living guts. At least so it seemed... till now."
2:32 the sort of distorted voice hits me like it's the deepest part of a lonely soul speaking (edit : these are not voices but synth sounds, but it still my interpretation)
The guy who saved my life.
V... you don't know how much I want that to be true
@@vijaysabarish9600 And he was right, it was the chip which saved V. JS wasn't even active then.
@@Tembel_Kopek yeh but that scene still is sad
@@vijaysabarish9600 yep especially with that song kicking in
Relentless rockerboy.
Had a bug where this song kept playing as I drove around Night City after the quest ended. 10/10 pls don't fix.
This song takes me from Mars to sirius
@@callumhall2432 WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALES
Should play a little longer after the quest ends.
I feel like that's one of cyberpunk's charm. Is it a bug or a feature?
How did you get it to stop, I'm having the same problem and it won't go away
This grave scene made me realise how lonely Johnny realy is. Like, he has no friends left except for V and, maybe, Rogue. Feel so bad for him.
Being stuck in someone's head gave him new perspective. It must've been hard for someone like him, who acts rather than talks.
I was already warming up to him although from the start I saw him as a giant prick but this scene really sealed the deal where I saw him as a friend
i do feel bad for him but he deserved his fate.
which what made this scene all the more effective. i felt this is the turning point in johnny’s life as he sober up to his past action.
@@nikki5499 lol I saw it as kinda the opposite, I pretty much said as I made the choice "don't fuck up this second chance Johnny" and well I mean he did a little by not telling everyone what happened, all those messages from the other characters that had no idea what was going on kinda hurt ngl
Kerry, Nance, Denny
"Haven't forgotten a thing. Never will."
That part hit me hard, cried for the entire week lol
@@JoaoPaulo-cu5fz same🥺
@@mikasa8292 🥺
That ending is the canon ending in my eyes especially if you manage to make V and Johnny become friends. It just doesn't make sense for V to take back control of his body knowing he'll die and take Johnny with him in six months. It's much more tragic if he lets Johnny have his body. Johnny gets a second chance at life and do things differently, it's not a happy ending, but it's the happiest ending either character will get. I took that quote as him saying ''the life I lead from this day forward is for V''.
I genuinely thought that every time I saw Johnny I'd think "haha funny Keanu man haha", but I actually didn't. He was his own separate character and not once did I really consider the fact that it was Keanu Reeves. Sure, it crossed my mind but I didn't _consider_ him as just Keanu Reeves.
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Same here, his performance was amazing.
@@zurkke 100
Performance of his lifetime, I think. Reeves is Silverhand now
It's pure Keanu Reeves, it's not only his character. The way he acts is just... dunno. You can feel the emotions, everything.
He was the best actor for this role, I think he himself sympathizes with Johnny the same way he sympathizes with John Wick.
Keanu Reeves is helluva man, not some "haha funny Keanu man haha", I really appreciate him.
"Listen, I realize I fucked up a lot of things. Either let down or used every last person who gave me their trust. Blind, selfish bastard that I was. But i’ve managed one thing for now. Not to fuck this up, what we have."
Ya fucked that up too. I gave you my trust and you used me. I don't know if I'll ever be able to trust you again.
Is it too late to ask for a second chance
No Johnny you fucked that up too
@@nasiransari9761 “okay but as far as second chances, this is your last.”
@@ripvanwinkle2021 i'll try damned hard... Johnny Silverhand relentless rocker boy who never gives up !
"Johnny Silverhand, relentless rocker boy who never gives up!"
"V. First among suckers."
That was a really well-executed lighthearted moment for such a heavy scene. It's a tough emotion to describe. Great game.
I agree, it was a moment to softly cope with the existentialism. Johnny knowing the results of his life amounted to nothing yet at the beginning he was so adamant to tell you, "Johnny Silverhand died a fucking legend," meant something to him. He strongly believed he mattered. All that egotistical, uptune, and pretending to know more than he actually didn't. A front that broke apart in that one scene.
The lighthearted moment was a feeling of comfort that he just needed a little to feel good even though he felt like crap.
@@joeldelgado1376 I think Johnny was joyful in that scene because he realized that not all is yet lost. Note that in order to hear this dialogue, V has to say that Johnny used V and can’t trust him at all. Then you have to say that you’ll give him the last second chance.
As for why he was sad, he said it: he thought there would at least be a marker after him. But then, that doesn’t exclude what you said. Nice write up.
Yeah either that or Night city legend
Always liked picking the "raging asshole" or whatever option for that conversation.
I always thought it fitted the conversation better
For me, the conversation at Silverhands' grave was the pinnacle of the game's story, atmosphere, character, and overall just my favorite scene.
Johnny, up until this point, has been nothing but a pompous, arrogant, self-consumed rockerboy rebel, blinded by rage for corporations and himself, but by Chippin' In he's matured from an anarchist rockstar to a man keenly aware he lost everything well before his death, hoping to atone while unintentionally murdering the one friend he's ever had. We see man wanting to change, to seek redemption, and wanting companionship.
keanuly aware
I agreed with some of stuff against corporations
While the story of V and Silverhand is depressing, I love how johnny seeks redemption after his death. It's sad seeing him trying to interact with his old buddies through V.
@@spartanhuntergamingsome? The city became a horrible place because of corporations
Night City always wins. The most anyone can hope is a happy ending
2:05 I love that the ‘Never Fade Away’ melody plays. Johnny said it was his favorite song, probably because being forgotten was his greatest fear.
Sort of, really it's his favorite because of his unhealthy obsession with Alt after she died
Could also be important to engram JS because his last thoughts are "Better to burn out.." before he attacks Adam Smasher
It also plays when you find Evelynn dead, but not with this specific OST. Pretty much a perfect use of this song since it turns out to be heartbreaking.
i think its his favourite song because its dedicated to the memory of alt.
After his journey with V. He learned to let go. Maybe move forward with Alt or Vs body. Things change
This is the scene that made me trust Johnny. I gave him my body to spend time with rogue and never regretted it. Johnny even fights for you in the end.
I had them be best friends, then V let Johnny take over and storm Arosaka tower with Rogue, then when the choice came Johnny let V live on and sacrificed himself.
The secret ending is my absolute favourite because it’s the only one that has V and Johnny fighting together.
@@TheHalfLeft Dont fear the reaper aka the only thing they fear is him Cyberpunk 2077 edition.
The guitar that comes in around the two minute mark really hits home, and the synth waves around 2:30. It makes you feel so alone, isolated. You almost sympathize with Johnny, you understand his difficulties even if they’re killing you, even if he’s killing you. You’re both approaching your end so you reflect in that light in the graveyard, a Night City Legend without a grave and a mercenary fighting to survive. This wasn’t what I signed up for, but I couldn’t be happier with what I got.
@@overlooker17 Tears are never a sign of weakness, embrace the fact you’re able to enjoy this medium of storytelling and feel these emotions. Reflecting on them in a way to your own life is a very beautiful thing, don’t forget that choomba.
wow i you are good at writing. said this in a... different way. i like it, very emotional when you put it like this
As a person who is empathic knowing what Johnny felt hit hard as if being an outcast wasn't hard enough for him
SPOILER ALRERT!!!
This song plays again in the ending where Johnny lives; and V & Rogue die. It’s a bittersweet ending 🥺 !!! The OST crew are mad talented 💯💯💯
I like how the vocals sound like a wolf howling fitting in with Johnny's feeling of isolation from everyone else in his life
"Lets say it was my real grave, what would you write? Here lies Johnny Silverhand..."
"...The guy who saved my life."
"V... you don't know how much I want that to be true."
That conversation was the exact point, in which the story really started to hit me like no other game has managed it before
There is also very good interaction when you say Night City legend
I trusted him unconditionally from that point onward
“The Relentless rocker boy who never gave up, even in death!”
Or “Nightcity Legend!”
“What’d you expect V?”
“I don’t know...a happier ending for everyone?”
“For us? Wrong city...wrong people.”
There’s ALWAYS a happy ending😭
@@Deathane there is 1 which is kinda happy
@@Deathane there literally isn’t tho. Not a single ending to the game is truly “happy”
@@simplyvibing3742 and i like that
@@vijaysabarish9600 same makes it unique and not like a disney movie.
Who else was dying to find this gem
sucks it not on spotify
@@dotwav7 ikr
It’s actually the slowed version of fade away
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Very poor choice of words XD
I know The Rebel Path is the motif most associated with Johnny, but to me, this song encapsulates him a lot more. Just a sad, lonely man fighting a battle he can't win.
Never Fade Away is his true theme I feel, which can be heard in this track as well
If this game can teach us anything, its to appreciate our time here in this world, we spend so much time planing ahead racing to a nonexistant finish line.
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Don't think too much on it. It makes you sound like have an inferiority complex.
@@linuxtuxvolds5917 Cyberpunk is FULL of moral, political, religious, and social commentary. Not even Cyberpunk 2077, but the whole genre of "bladerunner-style" cyberpunk sci-fi. Johnny's "path to redemption" is fascinating in so many ways. The idea of a man having a chance to reconcile his own death and horrible failures, while not wanting to fall prey and "fuck this up" again in his second and last chance at having a life and a friend? That's some inspiring writing right there.
The stories told in games can carry as much weight as a book or a movie and some would argue even moreso. It's not an "inferiority complex" to find meaning in a scene clearly designed to be slow, thoughtful and emotional.
The game actually teach you one thing.Your body is very important...
@@linuxtuxvolds5917 How ironic
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"The man who saved my life."
The symbolism of the location in this scene is heartshattering for me.
The oil is literally a result of the decomposition of millions of corpses, that lasted millions of years. This black sludge is like a void, where different dead creatures turn to drops of the one black ocean. The fact that Johnny doesn't even know where exactly his body is buried perfectly emphasizes this dissolving into death and nothingness.
The exact opposite of words "Never Fade Away"
oh my god... i never realized that... fuck man
2:36 hit me harder than Johnny hit the journalist who dared to record alt
This game..really made me reconsider even wanting to live in a cyberpunk world. You only have two choices. A bang, or a whimper.
Wake up, it's the same in the real world. What's worse is that most people have no choice but to be a whimper.
@@Pachyderm3 sometimes that isnt so bad to die in a whimper, I feel like this games message is to enjoy the life you have
@@Mr.Scott86 not necessarily, it also draws a lot of inspiration in it's core premise from "Do not go gentle into that good night" by Dylan Thomas.
I think that whatever you do in this world you're fucked, there is no real "good" or "bad" choice at this point, it's rather telling you to do all you can, so that you will be happy in the end. Put simply, you will die anyways, live it fully.
Or as Dylan Thomas puts it
*Rage, Rage against the dying of the light*
@@Bladings that's a really good point I haven't thought of that
@@Mr.Scott86 Yea, notice how the only "bad" ending is the one in which you give up and don't fight. It's soulless and absolutely morbid.
2:03 "The guy who saved my life."
Johnny: "V. You don't know how much I want that to be true."
This really hits in a way that a video game never did before. I feel like I was really there with them, lived trough what they did. In a way I feel like I was also in V's head, or maybe I was V. I don't know anymore. I just know I'll miss Johnny and I'll miss the friendship we had together. All the moments that made this ending worth it. In the end, it's also time for me to move on and focus on my life. Never stop fighting either, god only knows it'll be a tough road ahead.
been feeling the same way not knowing how to put it you just summed it up perfectly
Johnny has to be one of the best written characters from any game. His interactions and growing relationship with V is what makes this game's story fantastic.
Exactly!!! I thought only movies could give this sort of emotional response but I’m glad we’re now moving into an era where games are being made to quality standard; in terms of story 💯
True
I feel like the graphics play their part in that regard, as well. Facial animations and faces overall, combined with gestures and near photorealistic environments immersed me more than any other game could have before.
The moment when the rockstar, the rebel, the legendary johnny Silverhand realized that his lifelong righteous fight for a meaning, for a change in the corporate world (be it by guitar or terrorism) amounted, in the end, to nearly nothing.
Arasaka was right back where it was before the bomb, stronger than ever. The people more dependent on the system than ever before and most of his musical legacy as a rebel rockstar right among his few real friends: long dead or forgotten.
An unmarked, nameless grave in the middle of nowhere.
This game touched me deeply. Thank you, CD Projekt RED.
"Hey! Stop the bus! You forgot your guitar!"
"No, I didn't. Haven't forgotten a thing
Never will"
I love the ending of this theme. its like the cloud being lifted from johnny's shoulders
The game is great. Soundtrack, characters, questline were incredibly good. This scene made me think about life, and I cried at the end of main story. So emotional.
I'm glad to see people who liked the game. I hug you all.
The Never Fade Away riff is nice, but I feel like it's the defeated wail that cries out in the background that truly brings this whole motif to an emotional edge. Never Fade Away is just Johnny's facade, it's that wail that represents his true feelings in this scene.
Fun fact: after this quest if you go into your junk items you can equip the holographic silver arm you see when Johnny takes control of v's body
I know its awesome I wish it was apart of the main story either that v just see silverhands arm on him permanently as he becomes johnny more and more or that v literally gets Johnny's arm and gets it installed
Why is it a junk item? It will get automatically dismantled if you have that specific perk, won't it?
@@bustanut5501 i dont think so, a painting and many other items categorized as junk dont get scrapped by the perk either
@@jamoin8062 Huh, guess I have to check my inventory then. Thanks.
2:04 3:20 need 1 hour version..
we all need one brother "hemdehepimizin"
4 saatliği var kanka
Damn right.
@@ardaersayar2519 nerde
If you look up Temperance Cyberpunk OST you'll find that part isolated.
2:05 Never fade away...
Only other game that hit my feels so hard was RDR2 with Arthur Morgan. Fuck...
Who ever says video games aren't art is someone who never played a game like these.
"Most people I thought were my friends... they couldn't even stand to be in the same room as me."
I remember sitting there at the oil fields with Johnny, this music playing in the background, the two of us having a deep conversation about this strange bond between us. It was a beautiful moment, a heart to heart talk with Johnny that showed how much he changed after living in my head.
I said he was the guy who saved my life. He said he wanted that to be true. But I didn't... because it would have meant only one thing for Johnny, and I wasn't ready to evict the voice in my head. :(
This is so heartbreaking... V and Johnny, legends forever
2:10 is where it hits different, still coming back after 2 years of playing this game 🖤
Cyberpunk’s soundtrack is GODLY
"Here lies Johnny Silverhand..."
"The guy who saved my life"
*Never Fade Away riff starts*
"You don't know how much i want that to be true"
Fuck man, that moment hits hard...after this one particular scene, every time i replayed the game from the start to try a different lifepath and build i just can't not be friends with Johnny
The atmosphere in the graveyard scene... stunning. When emotions obscure the mind for so long and the clear truth of the heart slowly shows up.
I want someone in my life with the same chemistry as V and Johnny had
Am i the only one who feel sorry for Jhonny... i played many games and i've seen a lot of sad storys, but this one hits different...
for sure man
The whole game is one heartbreak after another. I cried a little bit
@@sahzus i litetaly cried the whole first ending through that i've got...whitch was the boolet to the head option :(((
@@Hexyteron as someone who has suicidal thoughts..seeing those reactions hurt
@@sahzus I know what it feels like but hey, be strong you'll get through it.
this shit hurts so much dude
u aint neva lie.
"Relentless Rockerboy Who Never Surrendered" not even in death.
Both Never Fade Away and Johnny's Theme plays briefly in this. We need more of these moments.
Why is this not part of the main soundtrack...
It's possible that its because the title of the songs a spoiler. But that's just a guess.
Guys how can i find this in spotify i couldn't find anything about "johnny silverhand grave song". Can somebody help me pls link or song name?
It seems to me that the official soundtrack are all tracks that are just a part of the main story. Songs from side quests and stuff aren’t a part of it
@@SubjectSigma77 This song plays in a few of the endings as well though.
@@rettichdergeile9361 Thx
I knew it would be sad saying goodbye to Johnny, these 2 weeks were really rough but fun too. Johnny was a great character, what is also really great, he felt like a real human being, despite having Keanu's appearance. They nailed characters in this game, every one of them feels like a real person, and it was really really sad that V and Johnny couldnt be together no matter what you do. Connections like this define you even in real life, they affect your whole vision of what the life is.
Johnny together with V made us a NC legend!
The thing about these melancholic pieces is the are double edged swords: at one end they're fucking beautiful and memorable, and at another they make me reflect on my shitty life
I love the fact that this track has a Deus Ex styled emotional ambience vibe to it. Really hits hard when Johnny breaks down looking at his own grave.
This song always hits me in the feels
"Of all the heads I could've popped up in, hella glad it was yours."
Never fade away
Some nights I just listen to this on loop
That moment in cyberpunk hit so fucking hard like damn... DAMN.
Goodbye "V" and never stop fighting - JS
"Here lies Johnny Silverhand-"
"The guy who saved my life."
V, you have no idea how much I want that to be true."
The part where the e-guitar kicked in was finally the theme I found when you picked up Evelyn's body to bring her away. This theme is just such a brilliant one in my opinion that I can't stop listening to it. Thank you so much for uploading this
The city always wins. In every ending the city won no matter what you do it won.
depends on your point of view sure V dies and the city won but its how you die that matters do you die chained and shackled to a corporation that doesn't give 2 shits about you or do you die surrounded by friends and those that care about you? Or do you die doing something equally legendary sticking your middle finger out and telling the world YOU LIVED? Or do you die to save a comrade's life from cyberspace hell? Do you put it all to rest and leave the world behind? Sometimes its not the ending that matters. Sometimes its the journey that gets you there. From my own viewpoint V was a merc which have very short lifespans hence the name from the club the "afterlife" all legends have short ends and did something to earn it. As V i wasn't willing to risk the lives of those I cared about. Equally i wasn't willing to let johnny risk his own chooms lives instead of biting the bullet i went the way of a legend storming hell itself and walked away. As painful as endings go the journey to being a legend means sacrifice. In other versions of my previous playthroughs you can also go through it and realize that being a legend aint all that its cracked up to be and walk away still a legend but die surrounded by those who actually give a shit about you. The ambiguity is what makes it an interesting story. Tragedy is sadly a genre that isnt popular with people now everybody wants sunshine and daisies happy endings. Sometimes tragedies are what make you realize that sometimes you don't always win.
Honestly listening to these tracks again and perusing clips on youtube, and talking to you guys in the comments is my therapy right now. After completing the game 1st time couple days ago (i reloaded to see a few endings) Ive been in a total malaise of melancholy ever since. Ive read about this phenomena called Post Game Depression that affects many people after they get to the end of a show, book or other medium that had a profound effect on them.
Hanging around here in lockdown just discussing the game's events and emotions is what's getting me over it. I'm sure this time next week i'll be blowing up mechs or flying spaceships in another game and feeling great but right now, let's just [Lean on wall] and look out at Night City some more and remember.
This game still fucks me up when I think about it in depth, and I really haven't felt this way about any other game, not that I can think of. Jackie's death left me feeling weird for a couple weeks before I picked the game back up; and even though I got the nomad ending w/Panam romance, it _still_ left me feeling weird for another week. This game is like a 6/10 imho, why is this doing so many things to my mental health ;-;
I felt the exact same way. The realization that none of V’s choices can end up being just fine, happy. Something, someone’s gotta give in every ending. Its soul-crushing but also a beautiful story and I think it feels this way because it nailed all the themes it was going for, which were all pretty heavy. But yea I didn’t wanna say bye to johnny or the story, I wasn’t/am not ready for it to be over. Ready for these expansions next year hopefully though!!
@@TheJuggerClutch Same, very happy to hear they havent lost heart over the negative launch, and that DLCs / expansions are coming.
Also this comment confused me at first coz my first name's Mark haha, coincidence.
I figured it's been a year since i made the comment above and fancied trying CP77 again, got as far as the soundtrack and thought "nope". Not ready for that yet haha. Such a strange mental effect.
Things that make you feel like this, are far and few between. But, alot of them have to do with death. I guess, its a bittersweet feeling? Sometimes atleast, most times its just pure sadness and acceptance. The ending i got for the game was bittersweet, the ending in edgerunners was pretty much pure sadness. But both hit me with that depression
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin I think you're on the money here. It honestly reminds me of the sinking feeling people get not long after losing a family member or a messy breakup. I think overral it's just a reaction to some form of loss, and yeah it is bittersweet alot of the time.
This game will be something gold if they fix the bugs.
@JoyBoy Miller lmaooo true
sooo true if only there was no bugs and if the game was improved a little bit like improving the ai i would be so sure that this would be a great game of the year contender
@@interstellar95 lmao. No. Just because they are cd projekt red doesn't mean they can get away with everything. The one time naughty dog messes up everyone starts sending death threats but since this is cd projekt red they don't deserve the backlash?. Yes the story was really good but that doesn't excuse the fact that they promised a product that will satisfy us. And they said they will release it when it's ready but then release it when it's far from ready.
@@cxruptexternity CDPR got the same reactions... the story got overshadowed by the lack of polishing. Again, people need to point things out... but the way they did it was toxic and unfair af. And I wasn't even on the "HYPEEEE" wagon to begin with.
@@zurkke Thing is, they marketed the game as the next gta, this was the biggest mistake. Most of the people that hate the game are either: Not interested in the story and only wanted a future gta or just do it for the memes because this is the popular opinion. This game is story first and everything else later but sadly most people would not give the game a chance, what a bummer.
after the dialogue I sat there for a good few minutes, it hit me hard for some reason and the theme was so good
"Worth comin' out all the same ? "
"Absolutely, thanks V. "
"Of all the heads I could've popped up in, hella glad it was yours. "
Dang after playing this mission and calling jhony a terrorist it really hit the feels I felt bad for him.
The musical writing of this game is amazing. The way the themes establish, evolve and intertwine is simply amazing.
Cant believe Arasaka did our boy Johnny like that
arasaka straight trippin
@@jonmakack1905 fr
Hm, the guitar sounds like a slow faded version of "Never fade away". Also Johnny's favorite song, according to what he says in a later mission.
I'm playing through the game for my second time. First time was after the initial big fix after launch. I largely relied on fast travel and skipping most dialogue to get through the game. But when PL came out I restarted and played a whole new way. I was blown away to see that you can COMPLETELY miss out on this incredible scene. What an incredible game. When the option "The Guy who saved my life" came up I kinda got emotional. That whole scene is perfection. I wish I could play this game forever and never reach the end of the experience.
"of all the heads i coulda popped up in, hella glad it was yours, V"
of all the timelines i lived through, i lived in the one where i can hear this masterpiece
“Night City Legend”
Played that part at night, realising how much Nightcity has taken from V and yet he thinks he could beat the system (maybe it was Johnny thoughts). When we are taking the pills it feels like we could leave reality leave Nightcity and we can, but for how long. Good message from the game that we can't always beat our demons, sometimes we have to run away from them so we can realeases ourselves... Maybe, don't know actually. Tripping my balls on acid while listen to this, soooo good :,)
I just realized it's the same OST as when Johnny visits the graveyard in the Temperance ending. Makes it even more emotional.
4:18 AHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't know if it was supposed to happen but this kept playing after I left the fields and headed towards the lake as per Johnny's request. The soundtrack continuing to play as I drove in my new owned Porce 911 through the entire journey was a really deep experience. I felt down and deep ya know? Relaxed, heavy, humbled, in my thoughts, sad, blah blah. I wouldn't have felt that if this didn't continue to play in the background. Music is powerful when produced well.
This would sound good with the vocals from Never Fade Away, mainly in the guitar part
I think it uses part of never fade away
Big Joseph it does, a part of the guitar slowed down
a nice thought, but the vocals wouldn't have fit into this i reckon. it emphasises on the instruments more and adds to the ambience and the emotions during this scene. the vocals would've been distracting
all i wanted is the game to have no bugs, just to see people talking about how cyberpunk 2077 plot is soo goddamn good, instead of how broken it is, it's sad that the bugs kinda ruined this experience for such a giant portion of people
normally when i beat a game, i’m happy, but cyberpunk, damn i never knew what depression was
when I experienced this I utterly broke down when the "never fade away" bit began playing
This game blew my mind, and I don't know if anything will ever beat Cyberpunk 2077's character writing. I really hope that CDPR goes back on their promise, and make another DLC
Didn't they say they're done with Cyberpunk 2077 and will only fix a few bugs?
@@xysm5224they still keep releasing new content lol I think they can't stop updating cyberpunk it's probably an addiction to them 😂
I played this on the piano felt like I was so attached to it ... just now I remembered that it’s from the game! Beautiful
The guy who saved my life - V
Seeing the nothing that was Johnny's final resting place gave him the reality check he needed. He might be justifiably jaded and right about corps and Arasaka, but it doesn't excuse being a toxic cunt to your friends. It's a good life lesson. If you prioritize being right over being nice, you're gonna end up like Johnny did. He got lucky.
Ive been looking for this masterpiece of a song
Except some bugs, cyberpunk 2077 is a masterpiece. I was so sad when Johnny regret about his past life and about what he was doing wrong. In the end of the game I let Johnny keep the body so he can try to live without regrets.
CP2077 is a flawed masterpiece, yet a masterpiece nonetheless
"Most people I thought were my friends, they couldn't even stand to be in the same room as me. You're fucking closest to me by a long shot. There, twenty-four seven. And yet... you don't seem to hate my living guts. At least so it seemed... till now."
Finally, I've been searching forever
That slow guitar riff is *chef's kiss*
“V… you don’t know how much I want that to be true.”
This song and the one that plays with rogue at the cinema are such good songs 💙💙💙
also the one which plays during Jackie's death... and the one during Panam's romance, fucking great OST
"V, thank you for everething and don't stop fighting"
2:32 the sort of distorted voice hits me like it's the deepest part of a lonely soul speaking (edit : these are not voices but synth sounds, but it still my interpretation)
“Outta all the heads i could’ve popped up in, im hella glad it was yours..”
Thanks for this👍
Maby one of greatest tunes, I've heard. Ever!
"Here lies Johnny Silverhand, The man who saved my life"
Im kinda just ready to go. Whenever death wishes to ease my pain that is
Yeah.
ahh to cease to exist seems almost like a feeling of bliss
4:18 the violins in this games ost hit perfect
Best moment in game.
Fucking great sequence, this and the time you wake up in a hotel in Pacifica elevate Johnny's character
“Whatever choom, like I give a shit”
We can say all we want about this game bur the ost is one of the best i’ve heard