The OFF-FIELD Pyro Throne Is About To Be USURPED | Genshin Impact 5.3

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  • @gachainteract
    @gachainteract  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Make sure to check out TGS's channel!!
    www.youtube.com/@TheGenshinScientist/featured

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Guys I have a simple question.
      ..can't mauvika be a better dehya ?? Hav interruption resistance?? Have off field pyro app ??? And no down time ?? She is an archon for christ sake !!!!
      I don't want her to be a better Benny or xiangling ... But atleast a better dehya and something like that ???
      Why aren't the beta testers pointing the flaws out front ??? Why can't these beta testers speak ??? Have they lost voice like the those stupid Voice ACTORS in genshin ????
      Why !!
      Come on ...join hands and start the roar like the zhongli treatment we did back when he came out....
      Hoyo will be forced to make mauvika better ...
      Please ... Do something someone 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @wansper9297
    @wansper9297 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    23:07 so basically in very relatable setup she does as much damage as Xiangling, but she holds cinder city so she buffs the whole team.... yeah thats pretty damn good

  • @Nafets-C
    @Nafets-C วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The first polearm character is still being the top that an archon needs to compete 5 years later

  • @ngm6541
    @ngm6541 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    guys

    • @famimame
      @famimame 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      that caught me by surprise.

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    In a mono pyro team with kazuha, why would you use scroll. She literally can't activate it because she can't trigger a reaction.

  • @Juanlife-f9m
    @Juanlife-f9m 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Displaying her mastery over both fire and polearms, Xiangling sends a Pyronado whirling around her. The Pyronado will move with your character for the ability's duration, dealing Pyro DMG to all opponents in its path.

  • @thereach4321
    @thereach4321 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love your discussion points and how you make sense of the meta. I would love to see another video like this, especially with how you elaborated more on possibilities that weren't covered

  • @kanashiiinu9124
    @kanashiiinu9124 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Xbalanque, save us

  • @JackHasegawa
    @JackHasegawa 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mavuika? Open the way for the burgeon king AKA Pyro Traveler

  • @dear_totheheart
    @dear_totheheart 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    So…Hoyo has done all they can to disincentivize my pulling her due to her design, kit, region niche and teammate lock, and complete lack of use versatility. I skipped all characters and now must miss the failure of an archon too. Complete disappointment.
    For me, Natlan is a complete bust

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I wanna disagree with you, but I can’t. i have zero counterargument. what you said is truth!

    • @elfire5381
      @elfire5381 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed.

    • @mijmijrm
      @mijmijrm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@elfire5381 i dislike the Archon's kit (motorbike is a ridiculous, world breaking inclusion .. what were they thinking? .. has there been a change in the design leadership?) .. but i like the region in general.

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lmao bye 👋😂
      All TC calling mavuika a meta

    • @GamersGod009
      @GamersGod009 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Just pull her and get Xilonen on rerun
      Don't be a dummy 🐒

  • @dragonkus6934
    @dragonkus6934 8 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    GREAT style of Vid for the chanel guys! Well done❤

  • @nyuuh
    @nyuuh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I - HONEST TO GOD thought it was an actual discussion collab! AHHHH

    • @gachainteract
      @gachainteract  วันที่ผ่านมา

      0:18 sorry, we enjoyed this video and wanted to react to it instead. We've done a "theorycraft", using that term very loosely, video over Mavuika before, but it performed pretty poorly. This was another idea we had in our back pocket we thought ppl might enjoy. Just another react video, sorry again

  • @Martin-se9id
    @Martin-se9id 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I reckon mavuika’s value, will very much depend on how many cool natlan type supports that will be coming out after 5.3. That or if the next artifact set cater just for mavuika to work with other characters.. sigh i can only hope.

    • @Byakuya468
      @Byakuya468 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Martin-se9id yeah, im building Codex but maybe I shd get Scroll ready as well

    • @Lunar2134
      @Lunar2134 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I dont think there will be a better set both obsidian and the support one are both super over powered if they make one better than they are it would be obsurd so the new sets would probly be for another character outside natlan

  • @alpha4935
    @alpha4935 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I welcome the bike, but the helmet is a design abomination.

    • @famimame
      @famimame 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      safety first

  • @mapletabest
    @mapletabest 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    GUYS 🗣 Hoyo should give us a Pyro buffer thats much better than Bennett but solely for Mauvuika and Chasca (I.e. not providing any form of pyro app except 1 tap) since they're already greedy Fs. Might as well make Mavuika teams a ultra premium team with highest DPS

  • @AzureAlufei
    @AzureAlufei 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Guys!

  • @milltorralba5874
    @milltorralba5874 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Guys 🗣🗣🗣

  • @typicpoem8764
    @typicpoem8764 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:49 what am I supposed to do if I didn’t pull for any Nathan characters and I want mavuika😭

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 วันที่ผ่านมา

      obviously it won't be as good (ideally get Xilonen on re-run), but you have Kachina and Pyro Traveler

    • @bushy9780
      @bushy9780 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kachina + zhongli/albedo/chiori for double geo core

  • @awakenedcrowl
    @awakenedcrowl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope it is. I never actively DISLIKED Xiangling, but unlike for pretty much any other role, I also never had an off-field Pyro support like her that I ACTIVELY liked.

  • @s2ephantom09
    @s2ephantom09 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Hoyo really disappointed me with mavuika's kit....I don't want to keep playing xiangling for the rest of my life

  • @darkgaming2.790
    @darkgaming2.790 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    sacrificial sword in xilonen will be good 180 point in 4 to 5 second

    • @joaovitorvazsantos7892
      @joaovitorvazsantos7892 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It doesn't work with her

    • @nilamelody
      @nilamelody 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      you dont need it.
      xilonen cd is so short that you are better off running fav sword to supply energy to citlali

    • @darkgaming2.790
      @darkgaming2.790 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ya it's not working xilonen ark count as normal atk sacrifice sword is useless 😅

  • @Riariaria-chan
    @Riariaria-chan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I used to like this channel a lot, but this... Not only did you skip the part where TGS reminds the viewers to like and chack out his other content, you gave almost no additional input at all.
    > "Xilonen is not necessary for the team, but basically she still is and just for all of those reasons" (reasons TGS said).
    ??? Excellent job piggyback riding off of another creator's video i guess.. i can't even call it a coherent sentence, let along a meaningful input.
    And talking over the video while it's wtill playing was just rude. Sorry guys, you were much better creators before you decided to do all these changes to your channel. This is just upsetting

    • @gachainteract
      @gachainteract  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Riariaria-chan Sorry you feel this way. We tried to give as much attention to TGS as possible. We gave him credit multiple times in the video and used a pinned comment as well.
      We're sorry if this video wasn't to your liking, but we weren't going for a "Let's theorycraft alongside TGS." We aren't theorycrafters and tried to make that known. We don't really theorycraft so we wanted a tried and true CC we both like that we wanted to share with you guys. Our input may not have up to par, but we were simply agreeing with TGS and it was more of a react video. If we wanted to theorycraft, we would have simply never showed you TGS and simply spewed out the same thing he did. That felt wrong to us since our input was the same as his.
      Once again, we're sorry if that loses a subscriber for us, but we don't feel like we did anything wrong. It was simply a react video with us putting our own ideas in here and there but mainly agreeing with a CC we enjoy.

  • @brianvieira157
    @brianvieira157 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GUYS!

  • @shiroiron
    @shiroiron 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now I’m convinced about pulling Mavuika and slapping Cinder city artifact on her. I want to keep Arlecchino and Diluc as my main pyro DPS characters. About Mavuika, I’m thinking EM/pyro DMG/crit as her artifacts so she will not be tied to burgeon.

  • @Byakuya468
    @Byakuya468 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What are your views on Mavuika C1/2 vs Xilonen C2 vs Furina C2? Trying to orientate my primos priority. Which one should be more comfort in the abv Mav/Xil/Ben/Fur rotation /more damage..

    • @Marc-w1f5x
      @Marc-w1f5x 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Planning to use Mavuika C1 as an off field sub-dps with Xilonen and Emilie. I think she needs C1 for full skill uptime. 700+ wishes ready. I'm almost certain I'll lose the 50/50 twice and go to hard pity as usual. Just hope her burst riding a bicycle is not clunky, but considering Kinich and Muelani....

    • @entropy8634
      @entropy8634 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Xilonen C2. Supports have so much more value than dps

    • @thelordhu3200
      @thelordhu3200 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Focusing on this specific team for hyper investment i think would be Mavuika Sig, Mauika C2, Xilonen C2, Furina C1, Xilonen Sig, Furina C2. I didn't do any calcs though, just my experience and speculations based on Mavuika numbers.
      The priority between Furina C1 and Xilonen Sig depends more on your account, since the difference is minimal.

    • @Marc-w1f5x
      @Marc-w1f5x วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@entropy8634 Fully agree, if you really want to make your teams amazing then save 6 months and get Furina C6. I think at C1-C2 Mavuika will still be a great support , and Xilonen is great at C0R1 (R1 for Dendro +Anemo 25% elemental damage bonus)...C2 is is not great with electro for example.

    • @Marc-w1f5x
      @Marc-w1f5x วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@entropy8634 If you combine all the broken supports you can clear any abyss with no DPS.

  • @VeraldoAncodini
    @VeraldoAncodini วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why not Mavuika AND Xiangling?

    • @gachainteract
      @gachainteract  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @VeraldoAncodini ☝🏻

  • @AwesomelyTsundere
    @AwesomelyTsundere วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly I really hate the bike in her animations and if she was off field I’d consider pulling but I don’t ever wanna use her if it involves seeing the bike animations. Very disappointed.

  • @ziancarvenreynoso9191
    @ziancarvenreynoso9191 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well for me is a good pull to me since I don't have a pyro main dps and I have Xilonen and will also get Citlali and since im a big fan of Dragon ball franchise 😂 so im gonna invest on her C6.

  • @lastadmiral4432
    @lastadmiral4432 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think pyro mc will be the best burgeon character in the game

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif วันที่ผ่านมา

    Her kit already has been nerfed since this video

  • @inferno1738
    @inferno1738 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Quick question for u guys. I got a guarantee for mavuika already. Should I use my extra wishes for citlali or mavuika weapon?

    • @user-Ud0ii_tKoVvA3
      @user-Ud0ii_tKoVvA3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Mavuika’s weapon

    • @inferno1738
      @inferno1738 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @user-Ud0ii_tKoVvA3 I was thinking the same, but I'm still a bit on the fence about it

    • @thelordhu3200
      @thelordhu3200 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get her and wait. Surely by the time will be a bunch of much more accurate calcs and tests about it. Just resist the fomo bro xD

  • @Ben-v6z3s
    @Ben-v6z3s 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    About time Xiangling got overthrown

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No. Better to have more options.

    • @kazuha5282
      @kazuha5282 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not gonna happen. Xiangling powercreep is just the friends we made along the way

  • @Sirindilable
    @Sirindilable 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    no-no. Even if not taking motorcycle into consideration, she seems to be awful in a team where she's only natlan character.

  • @nghiemduonghung9750
    @nghiemduonghung9750 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guess I'll skip mav and going to c2 Furina. 1. I don't think mav offer anything special/fun, 2. Her power is limit to character in natlan region. But more importantly, her game play is ass imo, if you don't care about meta like me, better check if you like her play style before pull for her. I wasted a lot of time farm xiangling the best artifacts, make her top 1% but almost never use her, pulled for kazuha and his weapon because he is "S tier", but never use him except for exploration sometime 😅. Lesson learned, don't pull for character if u don't like his/her play style, don't pull based on tier list, my fav character are furina, noelle, arlecchino, so I build team around them, I think thats the best way to enjoy the game for a long time. If her off field/support is good/versatile, I might try to get her on her rerun to make my fav team better 😊

  • @loa_loveoverall
    @loa_loveoverall 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone know what patch pyro traveler is arriving? Most stoked for that tbh

    • @user-Ud0ii_tKoVvA3
      @user-Ud0ii_tKoVvA3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      5.3 you’ll probably unlock it through the Archon Quest

  • @ongoliver8924
    @ongoliver8924 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BLAHHH BLAAAHHH. whatever you count, gatcha games will just rise the ceiling bar later. 😂

  • @刹那-g7c
    @刹那-g7c 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    If you go for C2R1 Mavuika skip this comment:
    Why is Mavuika the worst investment for a F2P (97% of players)?
    - Doesn't work on any team past or future to natlan, you invest for a character useful in a few versions of the game.
    - Character split into 3: Needs Xilonen (or another natlander), needs her weapon, needs at least C2.
    Mav is a character that shouldn't be promoted because if hoyo continues on this path (greedy, anti-player) we will have a game that gets worse and worse.

    • @I.disagree
      @I.disagree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What does she need her weapon and C2 for?

    • @mikofanboy9711
      @mikofanboy9711 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      corrently me i'm wrong but isn't this only aply if you plan to make her the main dps?
      shouldn't her still is a good character for Cinder city holder?
      since pyro react with every element
      a better option in Kinich, Mualani team
      I find this like Raiden situation since her also split into 3 Needs for dps: c6 Sara, her weapon, her c2-3 (maybe worse since you want Kazuha too)

    • @nyuuh
      @nyuuh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      while it's true, but their already doing it with Raiden right? okayge DPS at c0 - and for mavuika it's even good at c0 (of course to balance it out she has no energy battery capability), the thing is we can see the intent they're trying to do when they blatantly nerfed her damage numbers while not trading it with her support utility not upgraded as a trade off.
      while for Nilou's case it was actually nerfed her multipliers but buffed her passive to be the shadow DPS for enabling SuperBloom(regular bloom enhanced).
      it's clear for those who saved up WHEN they like Mavuika they can fully invest 350-500 pulls for C2R1, but it's also for the ones who will start out with an exploration MAIN DPS at c0 (especially newer players as well as the gacha degens who wank 160 everyday(DW i used to be so as well)) and like her, it's basically a seed they want to eventually reap more income through getting more 'investment' poured to get her sig and possibly 2 constellations in the future for her rerun.
      needing xilonen or citlali as a requirement is just their greedy way to basically sell a solution. just pair everything together (YES, THE ONE WE RECENTLY SELL) and it will all work together, it's like - for dummy degens who thinks Mac should always use Apple's magic keyboard... why? cuz it looks cool, or whatnot reason - while there are many external keyboards with the same price but better value doing so much more. but surely compatibility is guaranteed right? RIGHT? :)) SURELYYY.
      it's not a game anymore, it's a business. and we both know it.
      and tbh a few versions being useful is already a convincing enough reason for the average filthy casual players to get high and be loyal to the game even more, since the standards are so low as long as they put enough cutscenes that portray the game looking cool at the end after yap session of 2-3 hours...
      oh btw let's not say thay mavuika doesn't work on past teams OR FUTURE since we don't know how well she pairs with the likes of chevreuse, or other potential use of SUB-DPS Mavuika. i bet she can also be worked as exactly like raiden at c0 even without xilonen since the "big number opening damage" of ultimate will satisfy most players. for the future part, that depends on genshin devs just like how they made kuki shinobu the best dendro carry in the game.

    • @wansper9297
      @wansper9297 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Her weapon and C2 are indeed really good.... but you dont "need" them. They both just boost her already insanely high damage and increase buffing they dont really add QOL or anything. Aslong as you have Xilonen she'll be great into the future

  • @AdityaBharat-by7zq
    @AdityaBharat-by7zq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't we use mavuika and Pyro traveller in the same team for high intensity vape..

    • @aoiaooni497
      @aoiaooni497 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If reverse vape, u will need double hydro

  • @AzureDrag0n1
    @AzureDrag0n1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let us find out in actual gameplay if this is true because Xiangling does not sheet well. He pyro application is based on player skill and often can apply far more than she is supposed to sheet. Xianglings pyro app can be more than twice as much as Muvuika. 15 vs 6.

    • @famimame
      @famimame 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Applying pyro aura too fast can ruined certain team comp reaction tho. So Mavuika is still generally well rounded than XL.

    • @wansper9297
      @wansper9297 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you want to constantly run counterclockwise around the boss, sure I guess but thats not possible for most onfielders

  • @kennmako
    @kennmako 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it worth to go for Mavuika or Pyro MC is enough for Kinich team?

    • @aoiaooni497
      @aoiaooni497 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If u like her yes, but pyro mc is enough for kinich

    • @kennmako
      @kennmako 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @aoiaooni497 that's what I thought so. I don't like her that much, planned to go for her just for Kinich support but with the option of Pyro MC, I think he's enough.

    • @71775926
      @71775926 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are 3 major damage paradigms in Genshin:
      1. Personal damage that is boosted by mechanics that are self contained within their kit, often mechanics that are triggered by elemental reactions. Typically don't care for EM unlike the other two types unless they scale by EM.
      2. Personal damage that is amplified by amplifying reactions. Nukes typically are either a part of their kits or the primary play style.
      3. Reaction drivers that depend on triggering frequent additive and transformative reactions and using them to deal damage.
      The first type usually have the highest numbers. Examples are Neuvillette (hydro reactions for draconic glory stacks), Navia (shells from crystallize)
      The second type usually have moderate to high personal numbers. Examples are Mualani/Hu Tao (Vape), Ganyu (Melt), Arlecchino
      The third type typically have low personal numbers but have mechanics that encourage frequent reactions such as buffing those reactions. Examples are Alhaitham (Spread), Keqing/Clorinde (Aggravate), Nilou (Bloom), Sucrose (National, Taser), Nahida.
      If you study Kinich's kit, he has mechanics that improve his personal numbers if you trigger certain reaction types. That means it falls under the 1st type. Notice as well EM does very little for Kinich's dmg. This type is the least dependent on maintaining high frequency of reactions. Same as Emilie. Xiangling's edge over Mavuika and Pyro MC is the rate of application. It's something that Kinich doesn't particularly need, as opposed to Childe, or Ayato for example. Pyro MC's pyro application is once every 3 seconds. It's definitely enough for Kinich.

  • @tisrunning4401
    @tisrunning4401 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Usurpers usurping as always🙄 (love em so much)

  • @elfire5381
    @elfire5381 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What if u don’t have Xilonin?

    • @famimame
      @famimame 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Citlali, Kachina, Pyro traveller, Ororon etc there are other options.

  • @zodiark93
    @zodiark93 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personally speaking, even if Bennet can be optimal for her as a buffer, I still hate the idea of using him. Not because I wanted Mavuika to be a new Bennet/Xiangling, but simply because Mavuika will use Burst and Charged Attacks, which make her rotate and move a lot. So good luck keeping her and the enemies within the small aoe of Bennet's burst.

  • @mugen1119
    @mugen1119 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    guys