The "80s KONE buttons" you mention are the very famous KONE type M (or M-series). The doors on that lift are absolutely beautiful. Totally original KONE from that age, but they move slow so that could indicate the door motor has been replaced, and it isnt really possible to hear the sound from it. I think it is "wheelie" strange that you call the lift "80s" when they are from the early 90s as when the shopping center was built. The design is 80's yes, but it is the year of constr. that matters
Beno I know what it feels like when I lift gets modernized but when I went on holiday I saw a antique lift with modern buttons but the doors and motor were original
I remember using that BHS lift many years ago, not much has really changed, I think it used to be quite slow before? I remembered that the first lift you filmed was the really bad one but the one after BHS was nearly the same as the bad one that was always out of order. Brings back memories a bit tbh.. I see this one isn't looking good anymore. The 9 floors lift, I remember, when they used to have the original green buttons, like you mentioned at the start of the video, again. They didn't always work like the others, so yeah basically, the old ones simply weren't feasible.
Those numbers that look like old KONE-buttons. It´s M series and not 80'2 fixtures, The M fixtures were used for modernisations from 1989 to 2000. And by the way, why did you exclude a lift, and do you have a separate video on it?
Hmm, I grew up in Tunbridge Wells. I remember the old lift well. (The first one you rode) It was a near death trap! Many times, it was out of order, stuck and had scaffolding over it. This was back in 2005. They did change it but I'm sure I saw it go out of order after it's modernisation at least once My earliest dream I can remember involved it.
Go to intu Victoria shopping centre and go to the market (level UM/1) and the is a sign for the public lift. It looks like a Otis gen2 prototype and it is a Otis.
Ben, I think that fenwick's was an Otis or if installed around the same time might be an express Evans. I'm surprised they've used 21st Century and from the noises they don't sound so well.
benobve what is the clicking sound in the second lift and are lifts supposed to bounce slightly whilest going up or down cause the lifts in primark edinburgh sometimes do this and are really scary there stanna i think
What is that clanking sound when the second set of lifts pass each floor. Can you please do a video of the lifts at Princes Quay shopping centre in Hull they have two Otis glass lifts.
Hmm, I just noticed that the first lift in this video happens to be the lift shown in the Lester Controls promotional video: th-cam.com/video/aUaJGc34wUc/w-d-xo.html, so at least we now know what controllers it uses.
Mattyeah101 Well spotted! Its a bit odd that in their promotional video they keep showing dewhurst buttons when talking about how wonderful they are. It could make people think that they make buttons as well as logic. I call Lester controllers "stupid beeping logic". When an old lift is modernized with their controls it almost always has more delays than it did originally. There logic is so annoying. I wonder if they always have the stupid beep.
***** They often play the"PLEASE MIND THE DOORS" voice before the doors close as well, although they aren't unique on that. I bet that lift used to have nice Kone M-series fixtures and controllers before. The car park lifts are interesting, as I was there a few weeks ago, and noticed that on some landings, they still have the classic Kone horn chimes, but I can't work out where it's coming from - usually the chime speaker is in the hall indicator, but all of those have been replaced.
All shopping centers are in a bad state with coronavirus. I am not sure how things will go after it is over. High street shopping is slowly on the way out. In the future there will most likely be much fewer shopping centers, but the ones that survive will be massive. They will be the ones offering the shopping center experience, rather than for buying things. They will effectively be showrooms for things you can buy online. Certain big places that are fun to go to such as bluewater will continue to exist as people consider them a day out, but smaller places such as the pentagon center in Chatham is already failing and I have doubts if it will survive long term.
ALL, really all nice old 1980's KONE with M-Series buttons have modernized! DAMN, this lets me get very upset! Nice lift tour, but also very sad. They ruined the lifts here!
Entertaining tour! :) - I HATE Different floor numbering system - Just look at Stockholm Central today. One set do even have 2 floor numbering system - One on the buttons and one for the doors & Floor indicators! Wierd.
The second lift has its original door and traction motors. Beautiful!
3:36 I love the motor sound, the lovely harmonic rumble is fabulous,
The "80s KONE buttons" you mention are the very famous KONE type M (or M-series).
The doors on that lift are absolutely beautiful. Totally original KONE from that age, but they move slow so that could indicate the door motor has been replaced, and it isnt really possible to hear the sound from it.
I think it is "wheelie" strange that you call the lift "80s" when they are from the early 90s as when the shopping center was built. The design is 80's yes, but it is the year of constr. that matters
i have ridden a 31 floor M series
Kone owns 21st Century Lifts now.
Phew
The Kone lift at 5:37 seems to stick when the doors are closing :(
Kinda.
Beno I know what it feels like when I lift gets modernized but when I went on holiday I saw a antique lift with modern buttons but the doors and motor were original
2nd and 7th lifts isn't modernised. It has just had the buttons replaced with dewhurst and the Stentagate voice added.
they’ve been completely gutted and replaced now. quite sad really, they have no character anymore
4:21 it makes me laugh in this part
I remember using that BHS lift many years ago, not much has really changed, I think it used to be quite slow before? I remembered that the first lift you filmed was the really bad one but the one after BHS was nearly the same as the bad one that was always out of order. Brings back memories a bit tbh.. I see this one isn't looking good anymore. The 9 floors lift, I remember, when they used to have the original green buttons, like you mentioned at the start of the video, again. They didn't always work like the others, so yeah basically, the old ones simply weren't feasible.
Those numbers that look like old KONE-buttons. It´s M series and not 80'2 fixtures, The M fixtures were used for modernisations from 1989 to 2000.
And by the way, why did you exclude a lift, and do you have a separate video on it?
Hmm, I grew up in Tunbridge Wells. I remember the old lift well. (The first one you rode) It was a near death trap! Many times, it was out of order, stuck and had scaffolding over it. This was back in 2005. They did change it but I'm sure I saw it go out of order after it's modernisation at least once My earliest dream I can remember involved it.
I was born in tun wells I used all the lifts I still do but the car park ones are now modernised
@@haydnaslett2316 Omg i didnt realise I used yt 3 yrs ago, but yes, the lift was same in 2021, always had scaffold above it stuck between LM and UM
@@duogames1141 4 years ago and a year ago wow me
I found out that they is a nother Fenwick's lift At the other side and it hasn't been modified (:
wait another one? where abouts?
Go to intu Victoria shopping centre and go to the market (level UM/1) and the is a sign for the public lift.
It looks like a Otis gen2 prototype and it is a Otis.
6.23 Floor indicator went crazy.
Ben,
I think that fenwick's was an Otis or if installed around the same time might be an express Evans.
I'm surprised they've used 21st Century and from the noises they don't sound so well.
one or two lifts has floors that aren't upper or lower mall. what do you find there?
TRUE!
At Barnsley Hospital there are lifts like Otis compass' but they're Schindler cos I was there gonna get a drink from machine but machine wasn't there
I think the glass lift is either MRL or Traction
xXSuperBoyNathanXx Its hydraulic
+Beno lol
Do the old Kones still exist
benobve what is the clicking sound in the second lift and are lifts supposed to bounce slightly whilest going up or down cause the lifts in primark edinburgh sometimes do this and are really scary there stanna i think
What is that clanking sound when the second set of lifts pass each floor. Can you please do a video of the lifts at Princes Quay shopping centre in Hull they have two Otis glass lifts.
I know that clanking. It is annoying.
I could be completely wrong but I think it might be the counterweights, but I’m not 100% sure
At 6:20, the lift doesn't seem to know whether the doors are closing or opening lol 😛
Did he break the lift at 6:23
@Darrenstarling123 I doubt it
3:11 Nudge Mode!!
5:35 WE HAVE COMPANY!!
Hi Beno! Where is tam beige wells
UK near Hastings
In that BHS Those were my favrioute lifts bad sadly it SHUT DOWN!
Yeah
Hey beno the boots lift has been modded again and is essentially a otis gen2 now with a generic voice
Were the broken ones this lift is going up?!?! 😫
They are at "the range". BTW they turned off the voices on the lifts ):
Hmm, I just noticed that the first lift in this video happens to be the lift shown in the Lester Controls promotional video: th-cam.com/video/aUaJGc34wUc/w-d-xo.html, so at least we now know what controllers it uses.
Mattyeah101 Well spotted!
Its a bit odd that in their promotional video they keep showing dewhurst buttons when talking about how wonderful they are. It could make people think that they make buttons as well as logic.
I call Lester controllers "stupid beeping logic". When an old lift is modernized with their controls it almost always has more delays than it did originally. There logic is so annoying. I wonder if they always have the stupid beep.
***** They often play the"PLEASE MIND THE DOORS" voice before the doors close as well, although they aren't unique on that. I bet that lift used to have nice Kone M-series fixtures and controllers before. The car park lifts are interesting, as I was there a few weeks ago, and noticed that on some landings, they still have the classic Kone horn chimes, but I can't work out where it's coming from - usually the chime speaker is in the hall indicator, but all of those have been replaced.
Evil Owl now works for every single generic lift company... WATCH OUT!
Telfuke not stannah though because it is now owned by Lelliac
The shopping centre is basically dead, the food court has like two shops left and the main set of shops are always deserted
All shopping centers are in a bad state with coronavirus. I am not sure how things will go after it is over. High street shopping is slowly on the way out. In the future there will most likely be much fewer shopping centers, but the ones that survive will be massive. They will be the ones offering the shopping center experience, rather than for buying things. They will effectively be showrooms for things you can buy online. Certain big places that are fun to go to such as bluewater will continue to exist as people consider them a day out, but smaller places such as the pentagon center in Chatham is already failing and I have doubts if it will survive long term.
@@benolifts this isnt during Corona, this was before, I havent been there since before lockdown
6:24 The stupid and boring Generic have saved the old Kone chimes !
Where is evil owl?
Only first appeared on the tour at Manchester.
Yeah push him out of a lift door and say fuck off
Well, you must not love it then By the sound of you. 🤣🤣🤣
that 80 stannah went probably at 0.01 m/s
My aunt worked in Mothercare I never went in it it made funny noises🤐🤐🤐🤐
5:38 Door disease
JoshCraver9000 8:34
ALL, really all nice old 1980's KONE with M-Series buttons have modernized! DAMN, this lets me get very upset! Nice lift tour, but also very sad. They ruined the lifts here!
Most lifts modernized =)
Are 80s Oakland’s better than new oaklands
3:11 Annoying Buzzer
80s Oakland is so much better than modern oakland
Tini Win
3:11
21st century lifts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KONE is pronounced "Ko-Nay"....but really nice elevators
Thats the american way of pronouncing it
party at 115 powdermill lane high brooms all welcome anytime anybody free booze good music its on people now!
My nan lives there
Lol the evil 21st century lifts i'd agree
Or M.E
I live there
I didn't think there was a residential part to this shopping center
NUDGE MODE!!!!!
Entertaining tour! :) - I HATE Different floor numbering system - Just look at Stockholm Central today. One set do even have 2 floor numbering system - One on the buttons and one for the doors & Floor indicators! Wierd.
ADDEs Transporting Adventures! xxf
Liar that is millennium edition 21st century lifts Ltd
this shopping center is a clusterfuck.
Zweeee
😨😧😀😃😱😃😱😱😱
GalacticGamer 101 kjjkkk
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lol, over excitment
4:20 Hey stupid, just go into the lift and don't bother if it is dull or not!
what the fuck?
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