I dont comment much on youtube. But this channel has pretty much singlehandedly taught a newbie to the hobby everything he knows. Thank you for doing what you do. Awesome content as always!
As a dark angels player I personally like to go for the theme if it has plasma it’s probably in the army, a lot of terminators and knightly units like blade guard
My First Born Dark Angels are built around plasma. Literally every unit that can have plasma does! Tactical squads with a plasma cannon, plasma gun and sergeant with plasma pistol. Dreadnought? Yeah, that’s got a plasma cannon. Company vets (obviously no longer usable) all with combi plasma guns. Even the Devasator squad has four plasma cannons and a sergeant with a combi plasma! This build goes back to the one and only time DA were actually good with the Weapons from the Dark Age strat.
I started in 9th - and could see the writing on the wall for firstborn - so just focused on primaris greenwing. Have a 2k force of those so far. Now with the new Deathwing releases - I'm happily working on those. I'm guessing 11th ed will come with a Ravenwing refresh - so will likely start on those then (perhaps starting with some primaris stuff beforehand - storm speeders, ATV's etc.). It's all worked out rather well!
I am going for a 2,000 point Inner Circle List. The DeathWing Assault box models, another squad of Terminators, a Land Raider Proteus(Land Raider Proxy), Land Raider Redeemer, six Blade Guard with a Lieutenant with Storm Shield, and a StormRaven. I know it may be a small list, but everything has three plus wounds. The Gunship just because I think it looks cool, probably one of my favorite models right now.
StormRavens are excellent this edition, they're great transports. Though, I'd recommend maybe dropping the extra termie squad for a Venerable Dreadnought. Excellent melee, good enough ranged weaponry, and cheap enough that it can take the squad's place. Plus, Storm Ravens can transport Dreadnoughts _alongside_ any units within (and with a transport capacity of 12, you're gonna be putting a LOT of guys in there)
I use to play with my dad about 10 years ago, but i didn't put to much attention to the lore (i was 10) I just starting getting interested to the lore, and getting back to playing, thank you so much for explaining everything into detail, im trying to build my first legion and this guide was perfect 10/10
If you end up getting the new combat patrol, combining it with the blood angels patrol works pretty specifically. Gravis cap get aggressors, -Chaplin gets- bladeguard, librarian gets hellblasters and rides the impulsor, build infiltrators, cut 5 intercessors and buy a gladiator reaper.
No, you will want to use that Time Machine to go back to 8th edition and the one and only time Dark Angels were actually good thanks to plasma shenanigans and Azrael’s ability to regenerate CP. Been a DA player for many years and GW has consistently made us poor, this latest codex is just one more disappointment in a long line of disappoints.
@@emceedoctorb3022 Lmao what? Azrael still generates CP, and you've been getting so many new releases you've basically become GW's new favorite chapter. But no, because Dark Angels can't just boardwipe people with busted units you're "poor". We Fists players have a shitty detatchment, and two special characters with one being out of production and the other being generally terrible. Get a grip and be grateful they still care about you.
Definitely not as good as the 9th edition combat patrol but it's got some nice models. I'm sure you can find the 9th edition patrol on the internet somewhere. I saw what was coming and bought mine a month ago. I'm a big fan of the hobby but only purchased models recently
@@LordCrate-du8zmyeah man gw love us so much weve been sat near the bottom at 45% winrate for a year and only now are at 50 cause we have to cope and abuse ironstorm detachment with a generic marines force, and use basically none of our unique minis They love us sooooo much they just nerfed all our units that weren't standout in the first place Clown
The Ravenwing army is close to what my friends and I have been discussing, other than the flyers. Chaplains on bikes are neat, if only for giving the unit dev wounds, and +1 to wound. We just want to see the points costs before we commit
New to 40k but I am becoming somewhat obsessed! I am defo a Lion fanboy and by proxy I am going to start with DA but I get so overwhelmed with everything.
i started with dark angels as my First army this year and i am really happy so far. awesome models and lore. the deathwing assault box and the old combat patrol let me put a good army on the field in no time. azrael is a no brainer so are hellblasters if you ask me
Man, excellent video. Just what I was looking for. Will be referring back to this one on my DA army journey. Thanks for all videos you put out, has really helped me get my head around the nuts and bolts of the hobby.
Such a sneaky way to preview the points changes. We now know the points for Inner Circle Companions and Ravenwing Command Squads, as well as a smattering of others because those points are not from the current codex or the current Munitorium Field Manual
not a fan of space marines so i opted to get, lion, azreal, belial, inner circle and deathwing knights, my next grab will be terminators to get to 2000pts. the lion was such a cool model to me that it got me into da
I really enjoy this channel, also. I am also starting Dark Angels in 10th. They were my army way back in 2nd edition, but I've been playing Ultramarines since 98 or so. I will be honest, I'll probably paint them up as a custom chapter so I can swap in units and play them as generic adeptus astartes. Its probably just my fear of rules changes, but I really like the idea of having the option to play the Lion and his round table guys or Robert and his community planning brigade. Either way, I enjoy the channel, keep up the good work!!
This is how I accidentally a 4000p Dark Angels army in 6th / 7th. Kept buying Chaos stuff and people kept giving me Dark Angels with it. Eventually I just picked up some DW knights and called it a day.
GW not adding the generic marine stuff to the DA codex is a crime against decency. Rules should be free online in the first place, but at the very least, they should all be in their codex...
I’m actually starting a Dark Angel’s force right now. Got a few things and I’m starting to reach my final few units. How does the comment section feel about a Gladiator Lancer?
Note for everyone who wants to buy Hellblasters to start a DA army: Don't. They *SUCK* to build. Each leg and torso piece could fit each other except for minor differences that not even the instruction booklet is 100% consistent with. And worse is the plasma gun assembly, it's so fiddly (the cabled variant is especially egregious).
The dark Angel death wing knights could be painted to look like epic Black Templar terminators . You could do that too . I would do the swap myself as a DA and Custodes player .
I have the old combat patrol, the death wing assault box, and the leviathan box. I think that next I am going to get the new combat patrol, some aggressors for the apothecary biologis and the gravis captain, and then all of the named characters except for those who are in the raven wing since I’m not as interested in it. If anyone has any other suggestions please tell me
The only reason I, who have literally the exact same set of minis, aren't getting the combat patrol is because of the ten intercessors. I'd be better off getting something like the Blood Angels box which fills out the other five but doesn't leave me extra, and getting a set of ten hellblasters separately, I think. But I also really want the inner circle companions.
Thats exactly what I did: Old Combat Patrol Leviathan Deathwing Assault Inner Circle Companions Azrael Master Lazarus Asmodai Lion El’Jonson Will be adding Hellblasters, Scouts, Infiltrators, and likely a Land Raider of some variant probably Redeemer.
It’s odd to me that the Dark Angels have no unique green wing models. Weirdly enough the majority of their unique models seem to be ravenwing. The chapter is supposed to have lots of plasma, and melee. Kind of wish we got some “normal space marine”models to reflect that. Could give them more of a DA flair as well with hoods and robes.
Because Greenwing always has been the "vanilla" part of them, even during the heresy. I hope now that the Lion is back, we get back other wings of the Hexagrammaton .. Dreadwing used to be the "forbidden weaponry" Wing, There's potential for big plasma shennanigans
My brother is starting a darks angels army to have a back up to his neuron army. What can I buy him to team up with the dark angels? Can those army dudes be part of the dark angels in a game with the dark angels. I bought him commander Dante. Looking to get him something else TIA 😊
When GW gets around to the Ravenwing, I hope they do a veteran Bike kit in the vein of the Sternguard or Vanguard and an upgrade sprue to Dark Angel it. I think it's the only way they could balance it. If some of the features are available to all Marines and then a bit of plasma on top for the DA.
It's just too expensive at this point, me and my 40k friends have grown up pretty well off but even we're starting to see it as unaffordable, how can they justify these prices?
I can’t tell if that’s sarcastic. But this subtraction has a primarch returned, a range refresh, and lore books for it. Not sure what else you would want
@@christophersmith6510Some decent rules for a start. I’ve been a DA player for a long time and the only time we could ever be classed as good was in 8th when we had plasma shenanigans and Azrael who could recycle CP on a 5+. GW always seem to do DA dirty for some reason, this latest Codex is just yet another example. Some decent stuff but mostly meh.
I’m not being sarcastic. Im simply saying that GW has done an excellent job with the new dark angels. They have showed that they can make other chapters be amazing and not just ultramarines which are the obvious favorite of GW. I’m simply questioning why they don’t make other chapters the “main character” but yes they do need better rules.
I'm already over 7000 points in on dwing/rwing/and standard space marine gwing and got about 10 more units to paint then I'm done and onto imperial knights. Wheres ezekiel? Got the companions and asmodai on pre order and I'm going to be doing a ravenwing brutalis but come on da you can't leave ezekiel out he's the only one left
New to the hobby and have a question: Can i mix deathwing and greenwing units in the same list? Want to get the deathwing box but my budget is limited and currently only have greenwing units.
8:58 The Subreddit is NOT r/DarkAngels!!! You're looking for r/TheUnforgiven. Well you might be looking for both, but if you want the first Legion of Space Marines you're looking for the latter.
DA was the original 'that the legion I want' when I first got into 40k as a teen. Had a few kits and the Dark vengance box, was never really in a place to collect an army until the tail end of 8th, Ended up going Chaos/ xenos, and collecting basically everything that wasn't space marines because I was and still am Extremely salty about the Primaris lore and god damn havoc its wrought on the wrangle as a whole. With Firstborn/primaris agnostic Terminators/Sternguard in 10th, Figured id lean back in a bit, decided to go ahead and make that child-hood dream army with the deathwing box and some 3d prints of etsy. This was anther reminder how irritated I am by the primaris bullshit though, We are never gonna get a discount box with a land raider or a rhino in it again. Every Start collecting/combat patrol for marines will be forever poisoned with the same damn 5 repeating intercessors. Drop pod devastators with grav guns or plasma cannons will need to be hunted down for true scale prints to look right next hellblasters and tac squads will never again be relevant and probably end up getting phased out in an edition or two. It didn't have to be this way, they could have just updated the kit, the didnt need to molest the lore and now its going to take a hard reset that will inviatbly piss off half the fan-base to get things back on track.
Look primaris isn’t going away because a lot of people bought into it. You can think it wasn’t the right choice and you’re probably right but you should just make your peace with it cause it’s not going away.
@@lberghaus Im aware, and I have, Its why why I'm going for the true scale 3d prints and spent years collecting and playing other non primaris armies. I remember the ward era, This salt is but a drop in the bucket of what came before, but I will vote with my wallet and I will make my salt known dammit. If James can retcon the necron lore he can retcon cawl's bullshit. And If he wont, Then I will; in every campaign and crusade I host, because the rule books are guide lines, not cops.
How about the real Loyalists ? @Auspex Tactics, how about planning a Fallen army ? DA never speak of them yet are always chasing them. GW have made them integral to the DA backstory but the DA Codex and the CSM Codex ignore them bar a paragraph or two. The loyal Brethren need to be able to respond to Azrael's lies. Luthor held Caliban while Jonson went seeking personal glory. Yet he is called the traitor. There's many lore arguments as to whether Fallen even get access to Primaris. So what minis do we get ? First Born are on their way out and HH minis aren't recognised in 40K. The only Fallen applicable box is the SM DA Veteran box. Fallen is covered so badly, they're tabled to be played as anything a player wants, from regular SM to absolutely any chapter of CSM. We need conformity. We need an army. We need revenge !
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I dont comment much on youtube. But this channel has pretty much singlehandedly taught a newbie to the hobby everything he knows. Thank you for doing what you do. Awesome content as always!
Neither do I. There aren’t enough comments like this though. I hope he sees it.
As a dark angels player I personally like to go for the theme if it has plasma it’s probably in the army, a lot of terminators and knightly units like blade guard
My First Born Dark Angels are built around plasma. Literally every unit that can have plasma does! Tactical squads with a plasma cannon, plasma gun and sergeant with plasma pistol. Dreadnought? Yeah, that’s got a plasma cannon. Company vets (obviously no longer usable) all with combi plasma guns. Even the Devasator squad has four plasma cannons and a sergeant with a combi plasma! This build goes back to the one and only time DA were actually good with the Weapons from the Dark Age strat.
@@emceedoctorb3022 They're still good, but the olden days allowed for more to be done.
Just started a DA army this year and have built up the Deathwing and was able to get one of the older combat patrols as well!
Im new to dark angels and war hammer 40k as a whole so this was a big help thank you 🙂🙂🙂
I started in 9th - and could see the writing on the wall for firstborn - so just focused on primaris greenwing. Have a 2k force of those so far. Now with the new Deathwing releases - I'm happily working on those. I'm guessing 11th ed will come with a Ravenwing refresh - so will likely start on those then (perhaps starting with some primaris stuff beforehand - storm speeders, ATV's etc.). It's all worked out rather well!
I started with the (older) Combat Patrol because it looked really neat. Now I am nearly at 1500points with plans up to 2k.
I've been waiting for this video! Between you and Brushstroke Painting my DA are gonna be looking clean and mean, FOR THE LION!
Excited for the White Scars refresh so I can start my Ravenwing 😅
For the Lion!
*Loyalty is its own reward! For the Emperor and the Lion!*
I am going for a 2,000 point Inner Circle List. The DeathWing Assault box models, another squad of Terminators, a Land Raider Proteus(Land Raider Proxy), Land Raider Redeemer, six Blade Guard with a Lieutenant with Storm Shield, and a StormRaven. I know it may be a small list, but everything has three plus wounds. The Gunship just because I think it looks cool, probably one of my favorite models right now.
StormRavens are excellent this edition, they're great transports. Though, I'd recommend maybe dropping the extra termie squad for a Venerable Dreadnought. Excellent melee, good enough ranged weaponry, and cheap enough that it can take the squad's place. Plus, Storm Ravens can transport Dreadnoughts _alongside_ any units within (and with a transport capacity of 12, you're gonna be putting a LOT of guys in there)
My man, that sounds like my list haha
I got lucky and got the last old combat patrol at my local Warhammer store. I guess I had perfect timing.
I use to play with my dad about 10 years ago, but i didn't put to much attention to the lore (i was 10) I just starting getting interested to the lore, and getting back to playing, thank you so much for explaining everything into detail, im trying to build my first legion and this guide was perfect 10/10
If you end up getting the new combat patrol, combining it with the blood angels patrol works pretty specifically.
Gravis cap get aggressors, -Chaplin gets- bladeguard, librarian gets hellblasters and rides the impulsor, build infiltrators, cut 5 intercessors and buy a gladiator reaper.
You would have to buy chaplain separately. Librarian in the BA box unless you are converting.
@@artklaah oh true must have been twisted in my head. Librarian is still great to go with the hellblasters in the impulsor.
Well first you’ll need a Time Machine so you can purchase previous combat patrols and sets because the current 10th edition sets are garbage
No, you will want to use that Time Machine to go back to 8th edition and the one and only time Dark Angels were actually good thanks to plasma shenanigans and Azrael’s ability to regenerate CP. Been a DA player for many years and GW has consistently made us poor, this latest codex is just one more disappointment in a long line of disappoints.
@@emceedoctorb3022End of 9th was also bonkers for Dark Angels for a few months. Perma-transhuman on all terminators with free wargear was busted
@@emceedoctorb3022 Lmao what? Azrael still generates CP, and you've been getting so many new releases you've basically become GW's new favorite chapter. But no, because Dark Angels can't just boardwipe people with busted units you're "poor". We Fists players have a shitty detatchment, and two special characters with one being out of production and the other being generally terrible. Get a grip and be grateful they still care about you.
Definitely not as good as the 9th edition combat patrol but it's got some nice models. I'm sure you can find the 9th edition patrol on the internet somewhere.
I saw what was coming and bought mine a month ago. I'm a big fan of the hobby but only purchased models recently
@@LordCrate-du8zmyeah man gw love us so much weve been sat near the bottom at 45% winrate for a year and only now are at 50 cause we have to cope and abuse ironstorm detachment with a generic marines force, and use basically none of our unique minis
They love us sooooo much they just nerfed all our units that weren't standout in the first place
Clown
Asmodai and Assault interessors look fun with Deathwing detatchment. Pair with a LR Reedemer.
That's a lot of bodies. I would pair Asmodai with the Inner Circle Companions, personally, but Assault Ints would make for a massive midfield threat.
Literally just about to start my dark angels army (swear I've wanted to pre new models, swear...) so this is perfect timing. Cheers!
If you look right now, you can still find the 9th edition combat patrol online
@@BrandonGiordano assumed that was gone but I'll have a look around cheers. Not a fan of the new one
The Ravenwing army is close to what my friends and I have been discussing, other than the flyers. Chaplains on bikes are neat, if only for giving the unit dev wounds, and +1 to wound. We just want to see the points costs before we commit
New to 40k but I am becoming somewhat obsessed! I am defo a Lion fanboy and by proxy I am going to start with DA but I get so overwhelmed with everything.
i started with dark angels as my First army this year and i am really happy so far. awesome models and lore. the deathwing assault box and the old combat patrol let me put a good army on the field in no time. azrael is a no brainer so are hellblasters if you ask me
Man, excellent video. Just what I was looking for. Will be referring back to this one on my DA army journey. Thanks for all videos you put out, has really helped me get my head around the nuts and bolts of the hobby.
Such a sneaky way to preview the points changes. We now know the points for Inner Circle Companions and Ravenwing Command Squads, as well as a smattering of others because those points are not from the current codex or the current Munitorium Field Manual
not a fan of space marines so i opted to get, lion, azreal, belial, inner circle and deathwing knights, my next grab will be terminators to get to 2000pts. the lion was such a cool model to me that it got me into da
I really enjoy this channel, also.
I am also starting Dark Angels in 10th. They were my army way back in 2nd edition, but I've been playing Ultramarines since 98 or so. I will be honest, I'll probably paint them up as a custom chapter so I can swap in units and play them as generic adeptus astartes. Its probably just my fear of rules changes, but I really like the idea of having the option to play the Lion and his round table guys or Robert and his community planning brigade.
Either way, I enjoy the channel, keep up the good work!!
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Buy dark vengeance.
Split with chaos buddy.
Walk away from mirror.
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So true
This is how I accidentally a 4000p Dark Angels army in 6th / 7th. Kept buying Chaos stuff and people kept giving me Dark Angels with it. Eventually I just picked up some DW knights and called it a day.
It’s a bad time to start Dark Angels. The best thing to do is buy everything to make a good ironstorm list and add Azrael.
Sad, but oh so true.
GW not adding the generic marine stuff to the DA codex is a crime against decency. Rules should be free online in the first place, but at the very least, they should all be in their codex...
You should do a video about starting an Iron Hands army!!!
Step 1. Throw away your beloved Talonmaster, Ravenwing Landspeeders and Deathwing Command Squads. Step 2. Take a deep breath.
I got the old combat patrol at Christmas was going to get blood angels but decides to wait glad i did.
I just dont undertand how the codex has been out for weeks now but still isnt on the fucking official app
It hasn't been officialy out. The ones that came in assault box were considered pre-release. Next week it gets released and you can redeem the code.
It hasn't been oficially out. The ones that came in assault box were considered pre-release. Next week it gets released and you can redeem the code.
I’m actually starting a Dark Angel’s force right now. Got a few things and I’m starting to reach my final few units. How does the comment section feel about a Gladiator Lancer?
Note for everyone who wants to buy Hellblasters to start a DA army:
Don't. They *SUCK* to build. Each leg and torso piece could fit each other except for minor differences that not even the instruction booklet is 100% consistent with. And worse is the plasma gun assembly, it's so fiddly (the cabled variant is especially egregious).
I’m thinking I’m gonna sell my Black Templar specific stuff and swap it for Dark Angels. The new stuff nails that space knights vibe
They work really well combined. Like crusader squads or sword brethren make great assault intercessors or vanguard vets
I'm open to buy your Templars stuff if you're interested.
The dark Angel death wing knights could be painted to look like epic Black Templar terminators . You could do that too . I would do the swap myself as a DA and Custodes player .
How to start a da army: buy chaos space marine combat patrol, then chosen, box of legionnaires and maybe some possessed. Sorted.
Ravenwing sounds fun as hell. I only see the Ravenwing Black Knights on GW's webstore but the contents are the Ravenwing Command Squad. Weird.
It’s the same box. You get the option of making either Black Knights or the command squad.
@@emceedoctorb3022 Ah good to know thanks.
I feel until we know what the new points will be, it's best to wait and see. Some units might end up being either amazing or utterly worthless.
I have the old combat patrol, the death wing assault box, and the leviathan box. I think that next I am going to get the new combat patrol, some aggressors for the apothecary biologis and the gravis captain, and then all of the named characters except for those who are in the raven wing since I’m not as interested in it. If anyone has any other suggestions please tell me
The only reason I, who have literally the exact same set of minis, aren't getting the combat patrol is because of the ten intercessors. I'd be better off getting something like the Blood Angels box which fills out the other five but doesn't leave me extra, and getting a set of ten hellblasters separately, I think. But I also really want the inner circle companions.
Thats exactly what I did:
Old Combat Patrol
Leviathan
Deathwing Assault
Inner Circle Companions
Azrael
Master Lazarus
Asmodai
Lion El’Jonson
Will be adding Hellblasters, Scouts, Infiltrators, and likely a Land Raider of some variant probably Redeemer.
It’s odd to me that the Dark Angels have no unique green wing models. Weirdly enough the majority of their unique models seem to be ravenwing. The chapter is supposed to have lots of plasma, and melee. Kind of wish we got some “normal space marine”models to reflect that. Could give them more of a DA flair as well with hoods and robes.
Because Greenwing always has been the "vanilla" part of them, even during the heresy.
I hope now that the Lion is back, we get back other wings of the Hexagrammaton .. Dreadwing used to be the "forbidden weaponry" Wing, There's potential for big plasma shennanigans
What interrogators Chaplains 👀
My brother is starting a darks angels army to have a back up to his neuron army. What can I buy him to team up with the dark angels? Can those army dudes be part of the dark angels in a game with the dark angels. I bought him commander Dante. Looking to get him something else
TIA 😊
When GW gets around to the Ravenwing, I hope they do a veteran Bike kit in the vein of the Sternguard or Vanguard and an upgrade sprue to Dark Angel it. I think it's the only way they could balance it. If some of the features are available to all Marines and then a bit of plasma on top for the DA.
It's just too expensive at this point, me and my 40k friends have grown up pretty well off but even we're starting to see it as unaffordable, how can they justify these prices?
Why are these guys not the favorite child of GW?
I can’t tell if that’s sarcastic. But this subtraction has a primarch returned, a range refresh, and lore books for it. Not sure what else you would want
@@christophersmith6510Some decent rules for a start. I’ve been a DA player for a long time and the only time we could ever be classed as good was in 8th when we had plasma shenanigans and Azrael who could recycle CP on a 5+. GW always seem to do DA dirty for some reason, this latest Codex is just yet another example. Some decent stuff but mostly meh.
I’m not being sarcastic. Im simply saying that GW has done an excellent job with the new dark angels. They have showed that they can make other chapters be amazing and not just ultramarines which are the obvious favorite of GW. I’m simply questioning why they don’t make other chapters the “main character” but yes they do need better rules.
I enjoyed this video, thanks very much o7
I'm already over 7000 points in on dwing/rwing/and standard space marine gwing and got about 10 more units to paint then I'm done and onto imperial knights. Wheres ezekiel? Got the companions and asmodai on pre order and I'm going to be doing a ravenwing brutalis but come on da you can't leave ezekiel out he's the only one left
New to the hobby and have a question: Can i mix deathwing and greenwing units in the same list? Want to get the deathwing box but my budget is limited and currently only have greenwing units.
You can mix them freely without issue
@@honestscrub7288 nice, thanks for the info
Buy 30 Terminators. Is it effective? Maybe? Are they fun as hell? Absolutely!
Not that effective currently... But it's fun damnit!
I´m sorry can someone please list the First purchases order?
Please.
Can Sternguard be used in the Inner Circle task force?
8:58 The Subreddit is NOT r/DarkAngels!!! You're looking for r/TheUnforgiven. Well you might be looking for both, but if you want the first Legion of Space Marines you're looking for the latter.
are space wolfs having a new Combat Patrol Kit
Not confirmed yet, but they aren't in the combat patrol magazine, so it's more than likely
"How to Start a Dark Angels Army" first, put on a hood.
Got deathwing assault + combat patrol + 3x ICC..... alll going to be Black templars ;)
Heretic!
@@cdablacksmithingandmore5357 not heresy with the right livery
DA was the original 'that the legion I want' when I first got into 40k as a teen. Had a few kits and the Dark vengance box, was never really in a place to collect an army until the tail end of 8th, Ended up going Chaos/ xenos, and collecting basically everything that wasn't space marines because I was and still am Extremely salty about the Primaris lore and god damn havoc its wrought on the wrangle as a whole.
With Firstborn/primaris agnostic Terminators/Sternguard in 10th, Figured id lean back in a bit, decided to go ahead and make that child-hood dream army with the deathwing box and some 3d prints of etsy. This was anther reminder how irritated I am by the primaris bullshit though, We are never gonna get a discount box with a land raider or a rhino in it again. Every Start collecting/combat patrol for marines will be forever poisoned with the same damn 5 repeating intercessors. Drop pod devastators with grav guns or plasma cannons will need to be hunted down for true scale prints to look right next hellblasters and tac squads will never again be relevant and probably end up getting phased out in an edition or two.
It didn't have to be this way, they could have just updated the kit, the didnt need to molest the lore and now its going to take a hard reset that will inviatbly piss off half the fan-base to get things back on track.
Look primaris isn’t going away because a lot of people bought into it. You can think it wasn’t the right choice and you’re probably right but you should just make your peace with it cause it’s not going away.
@@lberghaus Im aware, and I have, Its why why I'm going for the true scale 3d prints and spent years collecting and playing other non primaris armies.
I remember the ward era, This salt is but a drop in the bucket of what came before, but I will vote with my wallet and I will make my salt known dammit.
If James can retcon the necron lore he can retcon cawl's bullshit. And If he wont, Then I will; in every campaign and crusade I host, because the rule books are guide lines, not cops.
“REPEEEEENT!!!”
#playLegendsUnitsAnyway
The answer to how is you dont
'Promo SM'
How to Start a Dark Angels Army: You don't cause they got codex-nerfed
First time?
Nooo don't lead them down the dark (angel) path! Stay true to the tyranids people! They love! They embrace! Suffer not the illmade biomass!
Tyranids don't have motorbikes with bird wings
Bugs aren’t made in the God Emperor’s holy image
Tyranid mains when there’s no leftover biomass in the fridge 😡
Dark Angels have the best helmets behind Night Lords tho
How about the real Loyalists ? @Auspex Tactics, how about planning a Fallen army ? DA never speak of them yet are always chasing them. GW have made them integral to the DA backstory but the DA Codex and the CSM Codex ignore them bar a paragraph or two.
The loyal Brethren need to be able to respond to Azrael's lies. Luthor held Caliban while Jonson went seeking personal glory. Yet he is called the traitor.
There's many lore arguments as to whether Fallen even get access to Primaris. So what minis do we get ? First Born are on their way out and HH minis aren't recognised in 40K. The only Fallen applicable box is the SM DA Veteran box.
Fallen is covered so badly, they're tabled to be played as anything a player wants, from regular SM to absolutely any chapter of CSM.
We need conformity.
We need an army.
We need revenge !
I thought about changing to Dark Angels but my favourite unit is Flamestorm Aggressors and as I understand it the Dark Angels dont like the primaris
Dark angels actually like them it's just that they were reluctant at first to let them into their inner circle
Eh, it’s fine. Let them in.
How to start a Dark Angels army:
Don't.
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