I think that a lot of the cuts made sense and overall the deck is fun/good. I think going for a lower curve is good, as swinging damage face is always more reliable than "But what if I reanimated this 7cmc creature!". One card I'd recommend that is a pet card of mine is "Order of the Sacred Torch" which has been errata'd to Human Knight. Its been in and out of my decks over the years and is one of the main reasons I got my hands on this precon, so that it finally has a home
Can't belive to see a 100$ upgrade without entomb. With this Commander cast it after blockers are declared, bring a doublestrike knight in your graveyard. Reanmite it with the first strike trigger, get another knight back. Especially with the pump effects this is such a strong combination
Legit the first card I added when I did my personal upgrades. Second one was Silverblade Paladin, 3rd Guardian of the Faith. I also chose to go with all 3 M20 Cavaliers as well though.
Interesting you went for lowering the mana value of the deck. I would naturally think with his ability to loot a big cost creature then cheat him into play on combat damage I would have kept some of the larger knights.
That was definitely an option I had in my mind but ultimately I wanted to build it as a way to pump out creatures and smack in for tons of damage while still having food recursion as well.
Upon first impression, after seeing the face commanders of this set I thought Cavalry Charge had potential to be one of the best in this set, with the content it includes and some upgrades, it appears to be up there with Divine Convocation. Funnily enough my playgroup enjoys running more than two board wipes so this upgrade decklist looks to be in line with their playstyle. Also curious to how Syr Elenora would look like in her own Commander deck. I'm a sucker for mono colored Commander decks like Octavia and Papa Nurgle's Plague Marine Primarch, -AKA Mortarion.
i dont think you are looking enough at the draw discard ability of your commander, you cut all these creatures because of too high cmc, not considering you might not even need to pay that cmc
You are very correct in the fact that our commander has that’s awesome recursion built in. My thought behind removing the higher CMC cards is just that the value really isn’t enough for how I wanted the deck to play. Not to mention hoping the commander A. Gets through to do damage to a player Or B. Didn’t get hit with spot removal or a board wipe due to it having such a strong ability. I hope this helped with why I made certain choices!
@@stevenkey7183 with all the pumping we get from other knights and artifacts , big cmc arnt needed. Also any phucking flying token ruins the recursion.
I was wondering that! Total noob myself: building my first Commander deck.. so regardless of cost, if I throw them into my graveyard off the bat, whenever Jabari does player damage I can go through my graveyard and play a colossal creature at zero cost?
Ethernsworn has proven to be to be extremely useful as a 3 mana kill a creature. I have successfully used it to leave open, a big creature swing at my opponent that would remove said player from the game, and player removal is best removal, no trample on that big guy and they have 1 blocker.... "At the end of declaring blockers phase, I'll just destroy your 1 blockers...." and it's repeatable? Ends up being a big threat especially with open mana. Something I also didn't hear discussed - Sidar has first strike, meaning during the combat damage phase, he assigns damage first. Mean you can fetch a creature from the graveyard to boost your non-first strike double strike. And giving double strike, means the trigger happens twice. Rules: 702.4, 702.7, and 510.
You are very correct in the fact that our commander has that awesome recursion built in. My thought behind removing the higher CMC cards is just that the value really isn’t enough for how I wanted the deck to play. Not to mention hoping the commander A. Gets through to do damage to a player Or B. Didn’t get hit with spot removal or a board wipe due to it having such a strong ability. I hope this helped with why I made certain choices!
CANT WAIT FOR THE 300$ UPGRADE! Prob mystic remora and rustic study! I feel like being esper and out of the box it doesn’t have enough blue to be honest!
Highly recommend “of one mind” as well. It’s a really good budget draw spell in a deck you can consistently have a human, and a non human on the battlefield. It hasn’t disappointed me in this deck so far.
Personally I'm building around Elenda the creature advantage you can gain off her is crazy ( you do however need to get some extra life generation to offset the gradual killing yourself ) Plus it's a beatface strategy that draws lots of cards. Also you can if one feels the need run a vampire subtheme since there is a weirdly high number of Vampire Knights
I really don't think is a good idea to remove Elenda and Azor and Silverwing Squadron since they bring lots of value on the battlefield and you can easily cheat them with your commander. They are literally your best cards to bring back with your commander. But I pretty much agree with most of your other suggestions to upgrade this deck. Can't wait for the $300 upgrade tho.
If a Knight attacks you automatically draw 2nd card due to Sidar’s eminence ability, so worst case it lets you draw a 3rd card each turn. Best case you get 1-2 knight tokens and 1-2 extra cards each turn cycle for a 5 mana investment up front.
I added Heliod the radiant dawn. Mostly for his flip side gives all of your spells flash and they cost one color's pip less for for each spell played during an opponent's turn. I have gotten so many spells out for practically free this way it's ridiculous
Agree with the additions and most of the cuts. Some of the cuts I disagree with. Aethersworn adjudicator and Vona are low-key very good. They are repeatable removal, even if slightly higher costed, on an appropriate creature type. They've stopped other people locking me/others out of the game with enchantments/artifacts. Those strategies are 100% this decks weakness
I really love how you guys go over each card one by one. Its great for someone like me who doesn't know every card by name. Thanks dudes!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
Awesome!! Can’t wait for the $300 one. Steven always makes the best decks!!
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When you think $300 video is coming for this...I would love to see a $500 one this also...food for thought..keep up the great videos.
I think that a lot of the cuts made sense and overall the deck is fun/good. I think going for a lower curve is good, as swinging damage face is always more reliable than "But what if I reanimated this 7cmc creature!".
One card I'd recommend that is a pet card of mine is "Order of the Sacred Torch" which has been errata'd to Human Knight. Its been in and out of my decks over the years and is one of the main reasons I got my hands on this precon, so that it finally has a home
Can't belive to see a 100$ upgrade without entomb. With this Commander cast it after blockers are declared, bring a doublestrike knight in your graveyard. Reanmite it with the first strike trigger, get another knight back. Especially with the pump effects this is such a strong combination
Legit the first card I added when I did my personal upgrades. Second one was Silverblade Paladin, 3rd Guardian of the Faith. I also chose to go with all 3 M20 Cavaliers as well though.
Nice, I already tried this upgrade with some slight differences. Thanks guys you're videos are very good
Thanks for watching!
Interesting you went for lowering the mana value of the deck. I would naturally think with his ability to loot a big cost creature then cheat him into play on combat damage I would have kept some of the larger knights.
That was definitely an option I had in my mind but ultimately I wanted to build it as a way to pump out creatures and smack in for tons of damage while still having food recursion as well.
Upon first impression, after seeing the face commanders of this set I thought Cavalry Charge had potential to be one of the best in this set, with the content it includes and some upgrades, it appears to be up there with Divine Convocation. Funnily enough my playgroup enjoys running more than two board wipes so this upgrade decklist looks to be in line with their playstyle.
Also curious to how Syr Elenora would look like in her own Commander deck. I'm a sucker for mono colored Commander decks like Octavia and Papa Nurgle's Plague Marine Primarch, -AKA Mortarion.
i dont think you are looking enough at the draw discard ability of your commander, you cut all these creatures because of too high cmc, not considering you might not even need to pay that cmc
You are very correct in the fact that our commander has that’s awesome recursion built in. My thought behind removing the higher CMC cards is just that the value really isn’t enough for how I wanted the deck to play. Not to mention hoping the commander
A. Gets through to do damage to a player
Or
B. Didn’t get hit with spot removal or a board wipe due to it having such a strong ability.
I hope this helped with why I made certain choices!
@@stevenkey7183 with all the pumping we get from other knights and artifacts , big cmc arnt needed. Also any phucking flying token ruins the recursion.
I was wondering that! Total noob myself: building my first Commander deck.. so regardless of cost, if I throw them into my graveyard off the bat, whenever Jabari does player damage I can go through my graveyard and play a colossal creature at zero cost?
This
Ethernsworn has proven to be to be extremely useful as a 3 mana kill a creature. I have successfully used it to leave open, a big creature swing at my opponent that would remove said player from the game, and player removal is best removal, no trample on that big guy and they have 1 blocker.... "At the end of declaring blockers phase, I'll just destroy your 1 blockers...." and it's repeatable? Ends up being a big threat especially with open mana.
Something I also didn't hear discussed - Sidar has first strike, meaning during the combat damage phase, he assigns damage first. Mean you can fetch a creature from the graveyard to boost your non-first strike double strike. And giving double strike, means the trigger happens twice. Rules: 702.4, 702.7, and 510.
I like Key to the City in that Deck :)
There are 2 on color Lieges from Lorwyn block that are both knights. Thistledown Liege and Glen Elendra Liege.
They may not guarantee pumps on the knights you have on the board, but the synergy is there and the passive buff is extremely strong.
I think im gonna go the full reanimate route with things like Glory, Wonder, and Filth for evasion.
Neat deck ideas tho
I think you worried too much about mana costs for Knights when the commander brings them out of graveyard for free
You are very correct in the fact that our commander has that awesome recursion built in. My thought behind removing the higher CMC cards is just that the value really isn’t enough for how I wanted the deck to play. Not to mention hoping the commander
A. Gets through to do damage to a player
Or
B. Didn’t get hit with spot removal or a board wipe due to it having such a strong ability.
I hope this helped with why I made certain choices!
Can't see removing the lancer or silverwing. Otherwise an intriguing upgrade.
CANT WAIT FOR THE 300$ UPGRADE! Prob mystic remora and rustic study! I feel like being esper and out of the box it doesn’t have enough blue to be honest!
I think you’re onto something 👀👀👀
Kindered discovery
@@killerbird1988 ooo I like that! Or Bident of thassa !
Highly recommend “of one mind” as well. It’s a really good budget draw spell in a deck you can consistently have a human, and a non human on the battlefield. It hasn’t disappointed me in this deck so far.
Spicy inclusion, I like it
Can't wait for the 300 upgrade
Personally I'm building around Elenda the creature advantage you can gain off her is crazy ( you do however need to get some extra life generation to offset the gradual killing yourself ) Plus it's a beatface strategy that draws lots of cards. Also you can if one feels the need run a vampire subtheme since there is a weirdly high number of Vampire Knights
I turned her along into a turbo token draw deck
Imagine not adding Kindred discovery literally sets the deck over the edge. Combined with the Merfolk knight its pretty much a steam roll after that
I wonder if Equilibrium would be too nasty in this deck.
how so?
DONT CUT LOCTHWAIN LANCER.
That’s a bad decision
@@ProtoSkullX1 ya idk wtf they were thinking. It's a great card.
I really don't think is a good idea to remove Elenda and Azor and Silverwing Squadron since they bring lots of value on the battlefield and you can easily cheat them with your commander. They are literally your best cards to bring back with your commander. But I pretty much agree with most of your other suggestions to upgrade this deck. Can't wait for the $300 upgrade tho.
Ya this was a bad upgrade. Elenda and Azor are wild in the deck. You just cheat them out with Sidar.
The Council of Four - while I like the card, it counts too much on a second event occurring each turn. Add Invasion of New Phyrexia?
Yepper, thats what did. Works like a champ
If a Knight attacks you automatically draw 2nd card due to Sidar’s eminence ability, so worst case it lets you draw a 3rd card each turn.
Best case you get 1-2 knight tokens and 1-2 extra cards each turn cycle for a 5 mana investment up front.
I added Heliod the radiant dawn. Mostly for his flip side gives all of your spells flash and they cost one color's pip less for for each spell played during an opponent's turn. I have gotten so many spells out for practically free this way it's ridiculous
Sounds like a ton of fun!
Are y’all gonna do one for all 5 MOM Pre Cons? I really need a Kasla The Broken Halo one!
All 5 will have a $100 and $300 upgrade!
Elenda and azor removed wtf thats the best card draw and knight token spawn in the deck
and how is the deck performing on the gaming tables?
Would the 9 Nazgul help?
What power level would y’all say the deck is with the upgrades?
This is only probably a 5 or 6 since it’s only a $100 upgrade. Check back to see the $300 upgrade for a more powerful build.
Agree with the additions and most of the cuts. Some of the cuts I disagree with. Aethersworn adjudicator and Vona are low-key very good. They are repeatable removal, even if slightly higher costed, on an appropriate creature type. They've stopped other people locking me/others out of the game with enchantments/artifacts. Those strategies are 100% this decks weakness
Kindred discovery? And metallic mimic, breathless knight, knight of the dusk’s shadow, marshal of zhalfir, valiant knight are good adds too.
All great adds!
@@GuysThatMagic valiant knight comes in the deck
Pretty new to magic, but what about adding some counter spells?
You definitely could! This deck just runs over people very quickly without them regardless
I added Mystic Remora and Planar Gate. That’s already my $100 budget
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The moxfiled link seems to be broken. It goes to a 404 error moxfield page.
Should be fixed now! Sorry about that!
Not a fan that you took out most of the blue out of the deck
Would you add wonder?
That could be some good evasion, but not sure its even needed in this crazy deck!
Did you think of living death? You are discarding every creature pretty much
seems a bit more expensive then 100$
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hey dude can you stop calling the generic mana as colorless? colorless mana has its own symbol.