Eldrazi Unbound Upgrade - Improving the Precon Commander Deck with $100

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
  • What do you think of Zhulodok, Void Gorger?
    $300 Upgrade: • Eldrazi Unbound Upgrad...
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    In this video:
    00:00 Intro
    02:39 Additions
    16:49 Removals
    37:28 Outro
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  • @GuysThatMagic
    @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    At the time of recording these additions came out to about $100, but as the deck is getting more attention some card prices are fluctuating.

  • @MoonBeast5
    @MoonBeast5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Honestly, I like Warping Wail. There aren't... any ways really to protect your whole board in colorless. I think the ability to stop most board wipes is worth it, considering the amount of mana it would take to rebuild.

    • @bobfranklin2572
      @bobfranklin2572 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No way this guy took it out? Reading before watching

    • @EXBtri
      @EXBtri ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with this soo much

    • @kennethstagnolia7151
      @kennethstagnolia7151 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And have we seen how many new creatures with 1 toughness have came out

    • @pando1520
      @pando1520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      definitely

    • @jeangomes9781
      @jeangomes9781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Warping wall is a must have - it saved me from board wipes a few times with this deck

  • @geofferiswheel
    @geofferiswheel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the update. There were definitely some cuts that made sense to take out.

  • @patmacrotch5611
    @patmacrotch5611 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I followed yalls $300 upgrades, almosty exactly, for LOTR commander decks! Cant wait to see the $300 upgrades for eldrazi and sliver decks!

  • @mariusburger5934
    @mariusburger5934 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pretty much exactly what I have planned also adding Ugin the spirit dragon for more removal. I am def keeping warping wail in though to stop sorcery speed boardwipes

  • @invaded1265
    @invaded1265 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm excited for this!! can't wait to get my hands on it too

  • @rogerrabbit132
    @rogerrabbit132 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was conflicted on which precon to preorder. I wanted to get either Eldrazi Unbound or Sliver Swarm, I ended up going with Sliver Swarm. But I will eventually get Eldrazi Unbound as well. I can't wait to see the upgrades for the Sliver Swarm precon as well.

  • @a.wurtzner
    @a.wurtzner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I entirely agree with many of your creature choices. I will nonetheless direct attention to that cutting instant-speed interaction is very dangerous in a colorless deck. There is very little overall instant speed interaction that can be placed in the deck to replace what those cards contribute. Instead, I would encourage people to look at the creatures with mana cost below 7 (no interaction with the commander ability) and whether it is an idea to cut those and add more mana rocks. Perilous Vault (effectively a 9 mana exile all non-land permanents) will also have a massive impact on our own mana rocks, so alternatively it could be an idea to cut that and keep warping wail. We also have 15 wastes to play around with, which is way too many colorless lands without extra abilities. Cutting some of those for cheap colorless utility lands is usually the first upgrade that a lot of people tend to want to include.

  • @nostngen2829
    @nostngen2829 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    warping wail is actually the best card to protect this deck against the worse thing that the deck has to handle: boardwipes. Also in the first turns is actually ramp if you need it.

  • @nathaniellee6934
    @nathaniellee6934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to get my hands on the deck I've been gathering all eldrazi upgrades ever since the decks were announced. Great video and I hope too see a further upgrade guide.

  • @ryangeiger5202
    @ryangeiger5202 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Commander plate might be fun to add in. Great video by the way.

    • @jacksons9546
      @jacksons9546 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, I put that in all my colorless decks. My guess is it didn’t make the cut for this one bc it’s like 30 bucks

  • @SonAlexander
    @SonAlexander 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My first game with this deck, right out of the box, I hit 3 of the 4 X spells on my first 2 large spells that triggered cascade cascade... Instantly got cut when i went to upgrade this deck.

  • @anonymouswalrus107
    @anonymouswalrus107 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Feel like warping wail is still good in this deck just because board wipes are sorceries.. vandalblast, farewell, astere command etc. colorless needs so much mana and relies on so much on artifact ramp that if you get wiped ur jus outta the game. Not to mention the best draw mechanics in the deck are also very high mana cost( Kozileks) Not that this card completely solves that but I feel like it’s come up enough.

  • @mattcarnelli6782
    @mattcarnelli6782 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adding more rocks that don’t produce colourless reduce your mana production from forsaken monument. Just a consideration for mid to later game

  • @brendanrobot1
    @brendanrobot1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scroll rack is great for the face commander. You can set up your Cascades. Palantir of orthane good cheap card draw that people can mill you but they take damage to cmc. Commander plate is fun protection. Portal to phyrexia, ugin the spirt dragon. I know these are expensive 10$ and above but they can definitely work.

  • @bobfranklin2572
    @bobfranklin2572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why get rid of the only efficient removal spells in colourless?

  • @O.G.Alphaborn
    @O.G.Alphaborn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is myriad land scape in the deck? can only get 1 waste????

  • @jayolvera4930
    @jayolvera4930 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can add urza's factory to the mana base as well, get another urza land for the workshop for $0.20

  • @andreasghazal5026
    @andreasghazal5026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    warping wail ist amazing, dont cut it. you will counter most of the board wipes with it.

  • @johnnygamer23
    @johnnygamer23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even after watching the professor's video that the Eldrazi Unbound deck isn't worth it... I'm still buying it, I get to play and start a Eldrazi colorless deck.😅

  • @counselorsgarden
    @counselorsgarden ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For 85+ I better not have to upgrade a damn thing!

  • @tonysmith9905
    @tonysmith9905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Insane that you're cutting Metalwork Colossus. Big things with reduced costs is EXACTLY what the deck wants, whether you're playing aggro or combo. This, Myr Enforcer, and Sojourner's Companion are by far the best cards in the deck because you can often make them free or nearly free 3 spells!

    • @usssztorm1410
      @usssztorm1410 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It works only with a full artifact deck

  • @jeffsonnefield6199
    @jeffsonnefield6199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Inventors Fair and Buried Ruin would be must have lands for this deck.

  • @user-ui2ml3ni6p
    @user-ui2ml3ni6p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is cascade not a may ability

  • @WestsideWally1
    @WestsideWally1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something is wrong with the link.

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry about that! It's fixed now!

  • @VortexOmen1993
    @VortexOmen1993 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im surprised you didnt add basalt monolith. Considering the deck comes with forsaken monument

    • @OneFoxTwoFox
      @OneFoxTwoFox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4$ unwinding clock and you are off to the races. Especially with liberator or vendelkan orrery onboard. Add a lux cannon and a manifold key as a Goof.

  • @ClaudeMoisan
    @ClaudeMoisan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Urza's factory would be a good add

  • @jorgecrespoapastegui
    @jorgecrespoapastegui ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are some HUGE mistakes in the removals section. Warping wall is protection against board wipes and ugins mastery is card draw + cheat mana.

    • @DiscoDigi786
      @DiscoDigi786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d enjoy a video with your cuts. More content, the better!

  • @jazielcrespo5673
    @jazielcrespo5673 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about Darksteel forge + Mycosynth lattice to protect our board?

    • @EnmaMusicProduction
      @EnmaMusicProduction หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'd probably be dead by the time you cast those. Your aim with this deck is to atleast get off 1-2 triggers of Zhulodok and you need board presence asap. Added those in in my previous games well I died even before I got those off.

  • @rook3930
    @rook3930 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Eye of Ugin stop the Cascade of our commander if it brings the cost below 7?

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cascade cares about the mana value of a card, regardless of how much you’re casting it for. So if you managed to cast a spell for free, cascade would trigger off how much the spell would have cost. Hope this helps!

  • @DuxBellorum13
    @DuxBellorum13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While I agree that Deceiver of Forms was one of my first thoughts for this deck. I do feel that people are sleeping on Ugins Mastery. As someone who plays alot of manefest cards in my morph deck the mechanic catches people off guard and anything allowing you to cheat the costs on your big creatures is worth it.

    • @pando1520
      @pando1520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plus its hand expansion so might as well

  • @Lexgamer
    @Lexgamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warping Wail is for stopping board wipes (ex. Wrath of God). Spatial Contortion can let your commander with Commander's Plate 2 shot an opponent. Both instants can also help cheapen Emrakul, the Promised End.
    I also think Crucible of Worlds is mandatory. You're colorless, which means your creatures are big, you don't have a lot of spells, and most of your artifacts make mana, and all you have left is your lands, so you need some lands that can do spell-like things, most of which require being sacrificed.

  • @kevinwin95
    @kevinwin95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the decklist link you posted isnt the same deck as in the video. can you explain that?

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The list should be the same

  • @DailyDoseOfSean
    @DailyDoseOfSean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im so confused, 20 additions but only 19 removals? how is this commander legal

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was a mistake! Fellwar Stone was never added to the final list. See the decklist in the description for the full list. Sorry about that.

    • @stephenvance4867
      @stephenvance4867 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad I'm not the only one who saw that. I was racking my brain, trying to figure out what I was missing.

  • @ZOMBIEBRAINS69
    @ZOMBIEBRAINS69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the time this video airs it will be the $300 upgrade lol

    • @hmmmhmmm5468
      @hmmmhmmm5468 ปีที่แล้ว

      5 Euro proxys 😮

    • @ZOMBIEBRAINS69
      @ZOMBIEBRAINS69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hmmmhmmm5468 I feel bad for the players who sit down and show off a proxied deck. Hobbies require time and effort , mpcfill is for the broke and noob players

  • @santiagovila4858
    @santiagovila4858 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉 Yeeeees!!!

  • @von4031
    @von4031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warping wail has saved me twice so far from board wipes.

  • @stefisac
    @stefisac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing sucks more than to cascade into a mana sink such as endless one or stonecoil. Even a mana rock is better to cascade into.
    I personally run also akroma’s memorial, planar bridge and sculpting steel and managed to fit in the infinite mana combo made with basalt monolith and rings of brighthearth

  • @joshuarichardson6585
    @joshuarichardson6585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warping wail is to counter boardwipes

  • @PlanJ117
    @PlanJ117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just constructed a devastating Cascade Eldrazi deck.

  • @foramoreperfectamerica8490
    @foramoreperfectamerica8490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I run OG Sigarda because I don't want to deal with Annihilator.

  • @brandonbattaglia8440
    @brandonbattaglia8440 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would you add Fellwar Stone when it’s a colorless deck? Why do you need colored mana?

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless it shows a colorless mana symbol, any mana can be put into generic mana. Fellwar stone is one of the better mana rocks in the game.

  • @stefanomandolini500
    @stefanomandolini500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Will the 300 dollars upgrade be uploaded? Thanks

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of the 100 upgrades for each precon will be out first. You can expect the 300 videos to come out some time next week

  • @zSlumber
    @zSlumber ปีที่แล้ว

    No precon battle for the $300 lotr upgrades?

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry it's being super delayed. We're currently having some technical issues with the edit. But it's still being worked on as we speak!

  • @curtisd5864
    @curtisd5864 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard agree on cutting Ugin’s Mastery tbh. Flipping means you don’t get cast/ETB triggers so instead of being able to double cascade into something you get a super weak creature that could MAYBE get flipped as a combat trick but you won’t get the annihilator trigger

    • @eewweeppkk
      @eewweeppkk ปีที่แล้ว

      I will take a completely free titan that doesn't get its etb or attack trigger over paying the extra 10 mana, though. Besides the fact that it also doesn't remove any card advantage since you didn't need to cast anything I feel like you're looking a gift horse in the mouth. A totally free 10/10 is definitely worth it, at the very least it'll bait spot removal and at the most you just cheated out a titan.
      The very worst case scenario for Ugin's Mastery is that you get a 2/2 token every single time you cast a creature spell, and that isn't too bad by itself.

  • @CanadianDH
    @CanadianDH ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you guys do the Sliver Commander deck next?

  • @L8RSTORM
    @L8RSTORM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger wtf man

    • @Welverin
      @Welverin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too expensive for a $100 upgrade.

    • @L8RSTORM
      @L8RSTORM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Welverin it just got a reprint

  • @Dragonspirit223
    @Dragonspirit223 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really disappointed there isn't a Eldrazi commander that lets us use our Devoid creatures and cards.
    Just something that says 'if a spell has devoid on it, change its color identity to colorless' we have so many options that we just can't use because they *technically* have a color identity that isn't colorless.

  • @thriftypsgr
    @thriftypsgr ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like this deck will not work well until turn 5/6. I love the but if most of the people I play with are setting up their win by turn 3/4. The deck feels slow I guess. Am I missing something

    • @thedead9282
      @thedead9282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you play with 3 other people the slowness is not the problem.

    • @1SI69
      @1SI69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you play against cedh decks, which is not a problem of the eldrazi deck by itself, if you want to play with more varied decks, try playing with lower power tables

  • @ildanno1111
    @ildanno1111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you added 20 and removed 19, what else i could remove?

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was a mistake. Fellwar Stone was not added to the final deck.

    • @ildanno1111
      @ildanno1111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GuysThatMagic thanks!

  • @MareczqZglos
    @MareczqZglos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Removing Warping Wail makes this deck wors not better. This is one of the really small number protection from Board Wipes, and Yes if you will have 2 or more big Eldrazi - board wipes will appear....
    Ugins Mastery is really good card. After You add "more" good TOP ENDS, its even better... On top of that it can be "suprise" attack of 12/12 etc. Yes its not super synergestic with ouer deck, but i think its enought good to be here - better then most of the "small" costed Eldrazi you want to add (Smasher or Seer are really "meeeh" for EDH... ) .
    I agree that tap-lands are not great - but I would keep Mirrorpool - this is the best deck for its last ability. Sure You cannot coppy any legendary, but you still can copy other big ones, and you can copy "Rise of Eldrazi" :d
    Ps. I think its much more then 103$ now - some of the Eldrazi cards spike - like Eye of Ugin.

  • @alexandrhilchenko4558
    @alexandrhilchenko4558 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8 months pass.
    “100$ upgrade”
    Cries

  • @hydrahead836
    @hydrahead836 ปีที่แล้ว

    Link to deck please

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      The link is in the description!

  • @mitchellderepentigny1809
    @mitchellderepentigny1809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how in this video you add 20 cards (Fellwar Stone) and only take out 19 then in the $300 video you completely forget to mention that you added Fellwar stone lol. Also I know I'm late. P.S. I Love y'all's upgrade videos keep up the great work.

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was an accident! Didn’t make it into either one of the final decks.

    • @mitchellderepentigny1809
      @mitchellderepentigny1809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GuysThatMagic wow I wasn't expecting a response from you guys let alone so fast. Thank you that is awesome. You guys make my favorite MTG content right now keep up the amazing work.

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha no problem! Always here to reply. Thanks for watching!

  • @terancepickles
    @terancepickles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's an interesting video, but there is no easy you are finding all of these cards for under/at $100 in the summer of 2023.
    Even finding them in stock is difficult.

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the time of recording all these additions came out to about 103 dollars. You should be able to find them on TCGplayer 👍

    • @terancepickles
      @terancepickles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GuysThatMagic it's cool. I understand. It's definitely over $150 right now. 😂

  • @thedicewizard
    @thedicewizard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As of October 18, 2023 the upgrades will run you around $220.

    • @xT1MOTHYx
      @xT1MOTHYx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RIP

  • @itskmillz
    @itskmillz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yikes this deck is $366 now for the entire list! Too bad, it looks really fun

  • @savilopez8041
    @savilopez8041 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One fairwell done deal😢

  • @awookiefromendor
    @awookiefromendor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve already lost a friendship with my incomplete build of this deck against a completed deck. Metal work is always free or near free and taking out free spells is dumb.

  • @akaikiseki9346
    @akaikiseki9346 ปีที่แล้ว

    warping wails is the goat, that decks will eat tons of wrath, and you get out the one card that just counters them ?... I don't approve that

  • @jacksons9546
    @jacksons9546 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was disappointed in the original list. Colorless is my favorite “color” in magic and it had cool new spells but the amount of Eldrazi was pitiful given the name of the deck.
    So happy David took the deck in the proper tribal direction bc that’s how I’ll be building mine

  • @giovannilozano4961
    @giovannilozano4961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait he added 20 and removed 19

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry! Fellwar Stone never made the final cut and wasn’t supposed to be in the additions. Check the description for the full decklist!

  • @NotMyForte16
    @NotMyForte16 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For those of you watching in 2024: These upgrades are about $275 in July, 2024.

  • @jimmyd404
    @jimmyd404 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure all of these cards have increased in price

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately due to the nature of how popular the deck is, the market prices have shifted since making the video.

  • @montanax8127
    @montanax8127 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's up with the crappy commons. Ulamogs Crusher...really? Pathrazer of Ulamog? What is this 2017?

  • @matthewlugo2417
    @matthewlugo2417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like i should cancel my preorder and just buy the singles the need might be cheaper

    • @ethanhoffmann338
      @ethanhoffmann338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The singles will come down in price once the hype dies down, or when they inevitably do an eldrazi secret lair in the next little bit.

  • @rjboot95
    @rjboot95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is there 19 removals and 20 adds

    • @GuysThatMagic
      @GuysThatMagic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was a mistake. If you check the decklist in the description, fellwar stone never made it in the final list. Sorry!

  • @maikelmannes6866
    @maikelmannes6866 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would realy like to buy all this cards from you for 100 dollars 🤭

  • @unamusedrowlett6303
    @unamusedrowlett6303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $100!? bruh the deck already costed $100!! what are you talking about!!!!????

  • @AtlRopeGuy
    @AtlRopeGuy ปีที่แล้ว

    Speed up the audio 10% across the video please.