I actually preferred the Open-Palm ending. The whole point of the game was that there was a natural order to the world that had to be restored. Master Li's strategy only resulted in a world of corruption that offended nature itself.
I remember when I lost internet years ago so I downloaded Jade empire, kotor 1, and vampire tmb at the local libraries wifi. These games are classics and must plays in my opinion.
For me, the Open Palm ending makes the most sense story wise and thematically. I think the great sin that the Brothers Sun committed isn't that they attempted to defy the god's, it's that they sought an easy solution, not caring about the consequences of that solution. They essentially doomed the entire Empire to eventually die out, just to preserve their own dynasty. I think it's admirable that they attempted to save their people, but they did it without considering what slaying the Water Dragon may do. Plus in terms of a sequel, I have no clue how they'd deal with the protagonist, because Open Palm protag became a revered hero, and Closed Fist character basically becomes a god tyrant.
I am glad others think so too. I am not a game addict but do play games a lot even if they are not the latest games. Jade empire is quite possibly the best game I have ever played.
one of the greatest games for real.. I absolutely loved this game as a kid. I got every item, completed it with every character did every quest etc. all before being able to look that stuff up. Ive always wanted the second game but honestly it will probably not be near as good as the original.
LITERALLY MY CHILD HOOD. I remember being subscribed to the Xbox magazine and they would send you game magazines and demos sometimes. I played demo jade empire and BEGGED my grandma to buy me the official game. Till this day ( I turned 26 on August 21st 2023), THIS GAME IS FOREVER SOLIDIFIED AS BIOWARES GREATEST WORK.
I wouldn't consider the third ending the overall cannon I just consider more of a what if, sort of like with Nier and Drakengard. Where if they continued Jade Empire then the open palm ending is cannon, but for an alternative universe then it is the third, but both ending are cannons to their individual title sequels.
@ awesome, I really enjoyed your explanation of Jade Empire and I’m sure l love your KOTOR explanation as well, just hope you enjoy making it as much as we all enjoy your channel
I enjoyed the retrospective but it really veered off the road at the end there for me. What's your source that the third ending was intended to be canon? I can't find any information on that whatsoever & that would be such a bizarre choice to establish the protagonist of the first game as a gullible moron. Not to mention, it would be very at odds with how Bioware has always handled major player choices in their sequels. I don't think it's accurate to declare that ending "canon" based on some alleged early concepts intended to springboard a sequel that never made it past the planning phase before it was cancelled.
You mustn’t have looked too hard (or at all) if you didn’t even manage to find Mark Darrah’s video about his time working on Jade Modern. If you don’t want to call it canon that’s fine but it was the ending BioWare intended to make canon when they were developing the sequel and as far as I’m concerned it remains the canon ending until and unless BioWare starts working on a sequel following on from one of the other endings.
@@EvenBadWolvesGaming No I hadn't found the Mark Darrah video because you didn't mention it. Regardless, like I explained before however, it's entirely a moot point when these early concepts being tossed around for a sequel were never fully developed, failing to make it past the early planning stage before being abandoned. My point remains that it's a faulty assertion to claim that one of the multiple endings for Jade Empire is canon based on aborted Jade Empire 2 concepts. Your source, Mark Darrah never makes such a claim either. It's fine if you want to interpret that ending as your personal head canon but that's about as much weight as it carries.
Mark states that Jade Modern followed the sacrifice ending. If you want to argue that a financial decision that lead to the abandonment of development means you don’t think Jade Empire has a canon ending then that’s fine for you, though I bet you would feel different if it was an ending you liked that BioWare chose. Sacrifice is still the ending that would have been canon if the franchise continued - the ending chosen by BioWare. I’ll accept that as canon even if I would have preferred the emperor ending myself.
@@EvenBadWolvesGaming It may have been a concept that Mark had in mind during the early planning stages but Jade Empire 2/Jade Modern never happened, so it has no bearing on Jade Empire's canon whatsoever & it's faulty logic to assert that it does. The fact that I think that the third "sacrifice" ending was laughably terrible is beside the point.
It wasn’t a ‘concept that Mark had in mind’ it was the basis for the game BioWare’s team was working on both while Mark was on the team and after he left. Faulty logic would be claiming that the choice of the canon ending by the people who made the game has no bearing on the canon ending would be. Otherwise it’s like saying George RR Martin can’t say now if the tv GOT ending is canon to the book series or not because he hasn’t published the final book - of course he could, he’s the creator and he gets to decide. Same way BioWare gets to decide what the canon ending of Jade Empire was and they decided on Sacrifice. The fact that the sequel and the books are unfinished doesn’t mean the creator’s decision is null. BioWare could one day change their minds but as long as they don’t Sacrifice remains (at least the most) canon ending.
What's your opinion on the "good" ending?
I can show you a good ending if you agree to meet up somewhere.
I mean the lady doing the voiceover :P
@@Dream_Spark bruh 💀
Dunno, if anyone likes to replay, but Nexus Mods still has the 7GB + 8GB graphic updates for the game & widescreen MODS. 🤗
The good ending is being a soft spoken Aussie lady who gets all the views
I actually preferred the Open-Palm ending. The whole point of the game was that there was a natural order to the world that had to be restored. Master Li's strategy only resulted in a world of corruption that offended nature itself.
Same here
I remember when I lost internet years ago so I downloaded Jade empire, kotor 1, and vampire tmb at the local libraries wifi. These games are classics and must plays in my opinion.
Agreed along with Thief Deadly Shadows and Morrowind. Those years from 2002 - 2005 had some of the best games.
For me, the Open Palm ending makes the most sense story wise and thematically.
I think the great sin that the Brothers Sun committed isn't that they attempted to defy the god's, it's that they sought an easy solution, not caring about the consequences of that solution. They essentially doomed the entire Empire to eventually die out, just to preserve their own dynasty. I think it's admirable that they attempted to save their people, but they did it without considering what slaying the Water Dragon may do.
Plus in terms of a sequel, I have no clue how they'd deal with the protagonist, because Open Palm protag became a revered hero, and Closed Fist character basically becomes a god tyrant.
For the KOTOR games they did, they make the good ending canon but also make the evil ending work with the sequel’s story if you decide to choose it
The best RPG ever made 20+ years later no game can compete
I am glad others think so too. I am not a game addict but do play games a lot even if they are not the latest games. Jade empire is quite possibly the best game I have ever played.
Fable and Jade Empire are the 2 best Xbox RPGs.
one of the greatest games for real.. I absolutely loved this game as a kid. I got every item, completed it with every character did every quest etc. all before being able to look that stuff up. Ive always wanted the second game but honestly it will probably not be near as good as the original.
I wish they will remake this or make a new one. Love your video btw
Thank you, I really hope they remake it one day as well.
I'm not convinced that the closed fist ending is more utilitarian as another country is experiencing a drought still and the dead are still disturbed.
It really sucks a sequel was in work but sadly it got canceled
binge watching ur vids rn keep up the good work 😊
Thank you, your comment made me very happy to read ☺
Great video really enjoy your content keep up the good work
Playing this now after 20 years almost from first getting it , i bless you from the old gamers 🙏🏼
LITERALLY MY CHILD HOOD. I remember being subscribed to the Xbox magazine and they would send you game magazines and demos sometimes. I played demo jade empire and BEGGED my grandma to buy me the official game. Till this day ( I turned 26 on August 21st 2023), THIS GAME IS FOREVER SOLIDIFIED AS BIOWARES GREATEST WORK.
This comment made me smile. You're lovely
Amazing explanation
Looking forward to the next one
Thank you, I'm aiming to have another story explained video up later this month 😊
I wouldn't consider the third ending the overall cannon I just consider more of a what if, sort of like with Nier and Drakengard. Where if they continued Jade Empire then the open palm ending is cannon, but for an alternative universe then it is the third, but both ending are cannons to their individual title sequels.
Underated game
So underrated
first walkthrough i was shocked by master lee action
Same 😢
I LOVE this game!
Thank you
Welcome!
13:53 I wouldn't say the thing is a toad demon rather, some sort of disturbing...thing.
Could you please do KOTOR 1 and 2 !?
Sure - I was going to play them again sometime before the remake anyway and I should have time to record a playthrough over Christmas.
@ awesome, I really enjoyed your explanation of Jade Empire and I’m sure l love your KOTOR explanation as well, just hope you enjoy making it as much as we all enjoy your channel
Silk fox can have my first born warrior
There's not enough Wuxia/Xianxia crpgs of this style.
🙏
Lol "chai ka" is what a female would say to mean, basically, "yes please" in Thai.
I enjoyed the retrospective but it really veered off the road at the end there for me. What's your source that the third ending was intended to be canon? I can't find any information on that whatsoever & that would be such a bizarre choice to establish the protagonist of the first game as a gullible moron. Not to mention, it would be very at odds with how Bioware has always handled major player choices in their sequels. I don't think it's accurate to declare that ending "canon" based on some alleged early concepts intended to springboard a sequel that never made it past the planning phase before it was cancelled.
You mustn’t have looked too hard (or at all) if you didn’t even manage to find Mark Darrah’s video about his time working on Jade Modern. If you don’t want to call it canon that’s fine but it was the ending BioWare intended to make canon when they were developing the sequel and as far as I’m concerned it remains the canon ending until and unless BioWare starts working on a sequel following on from one of the other endings.
@@EvenBadWolvesGaming No I hadn't found the Mark Darrah video because you didn't mention it. Regardless, like I explained before however, it's entirely a moot point when these early concepts being tossed around for a sequel were never fully developed, failing to make it past the early planning stage before being abandoned. My point remains that it's a faulty assertion to claim that one of the multiple endings for Jade Empire is canon based on aborted Jade Empire 2 concepts. Your source, Mark Darrah never makes such a claim either. It's fine if you want to interpret that ending as your personal head canon but that's about as much weight as it carries.
Mark states that Jade Modern followed the sacrifice ending. If you want to argue that a financial decision that lead to the abandonment of development means you don’t think Jade Empire has a canon ending then that’s fine for you, though I bet you would feel different if it was an ending you liked that BioWare chose.
Sacrifice is still the ending that would have been canon if the franchise continued - the ending chosen by BioWare. I’ll accept that as canon even if I would have preferred the emperor ending myself.
@@EvenBadWolvesGaming It may have been a concept that Mark had in mind during the early planning stages but Jade Empire 2/Jade Modern never happened, so it has no bearing on Jade Empire's canon whatsoever & it's faulty logic to assert that it does. The fact that I think that the third "sacrifice" ending was laughably terrible is beside the point.
It wasn’t a ‘concept that Mark had in mind’ it was the basis for the game BioWare’s team was working on both while Mark was on the team and after he left. Faulty logic would be claiming that the choice of the canon ending by the people who made the game has no bearing on the canon ending would be.
Otherwise it’s like saying George RR Martin can’t say now if the tv GOT ending is canon to the book series or not because he hasn’t published the final book - of course he could, he’s the creator and he gets to decide. Same way BioWare gets to decide what the canon ending of Jade Empire was and they decided on Sacrifice. The fact that the sequel and the books are unfinished doesn’t mean the creator’s decision is null.
BioWare could one day change their minds but as long as they don’t Sacrifice remains (at least the most) canon ending.