It starts as beef for territory to sell drugs but slowly its just become a full on postcode war where anyone from the other side can get it even if they're not a drug dealer who's threatenening their business
@@ql8182 I knew not to join a gang at the age of ten because 1: people in gangs die, and 2: lots of people in gangs are in prison/are lost causes with no successes in their lives. If A kid as young as 10 can realise this shit, so can young teens/adults. Take the kid that was begging for his life for example; how tf did he not realise he could die BEFORE he got murdered? Why make those choices when you KNOW and most likely have seen the risks happen to someone else?
@@charlottemartin4715 just call your internet provider and ask them to cancel your subscription, try a puzzle or something. The internet isn’t the place for you.
I was born in Lewisham in 88. Meaning I was 17 in 2006. It was bad around these parts. Absolute madness. I ended up drifting into wrong crowds for a while and scenarios that make me wonder how I’m still alive. For me, home life was so bad that I didn’t want to be there. So I mad the streets my home. I imagine it was the same for many of these kids. I’m 33 now, and I pray that things have changed. I still live in Brockley, SE London and things seem to have changed. I think a big key to change is education and understanding yourself. Who you are, who you want to be and why you do what you do. But let me tell you something, all of this shit, no matter where it takes place, is traumatic and has real detrimental consequences. So let’s hope and pray that things continue to improve. Change for the kids starts at home (parents) and with the system. No more can us people from instability and troubled homes, allow that or a neglectful societal system mess up our future. God I pray people see the truth. Love not war 🧡
What about the children who's grandparents are not immigrants are they not also an embarrassment. I dont see difference between 3 generation immigrants to this country and the indigenous population !
It is a better life though? They brought their kids to a worse life and worse environment. If they were poor where they come from race wasn't a thing there, they were not subjected to extreme discrimination and were not excluded from social circles like scum just for being "different." In the UK they came to this dysfunctional environment and to be honest with you, not everyone has mental capacity and nervous system strong enough to deal with all the visions around. Some go crazy and become unrecognisable with no chance to recover. If ur strong enough to get out of the hood, you deserve a crown, mad respect. And hard-working parents cannot always heal the wounds unfortunately.
Mate, they’re all on benefits. They all say “we’re stuck in this life,” instead of saying “hmmm, maybe if I get an education and job, I could get out of here permanently.” They want everything handed to them without putting in any effort…..Simple as.
I grew up and still live in Peckham. I have close family members who got caught up in this life despite having certain opportunities offered to them. I've even dated someone from this era, and let me tell you, their mentality and attitude to life is DIFFERENT. It's actually weird, like I can't even describe it because I don't get it mostly. Living that life sticks with them even though they're out of it, and I can tell its a challenge for them to maintain mental stability now that they address the madness they partook in. It's sad to know so many of these boys give up their childhood for this shit.
This was the realist comment I have seen before . I salute you for trying to be someone's peace . The madness never leaves after and many of us never understood . Left the life but the life can't leave us . No matter how far you move and the trauma can be damaging . People are always going to feed their family's and poverty is easily lead for young minds to move towards grinding of road . And the cost of living is still rising the crimes are getting worse .
Well done 👊...The area needs people like you to mentor the young ones, showing them that there is more to life than Road life/ street life. The young ones are too much into this street life and are ending up killing each other.
I used to work in Peckham in 2002, I was only 19 years old. I worked on one of the rough estates, as a trainee window fitter. I got a lift to the train station from an Irish guy who I made friends with. It turned out he had just come out of jail for murder.
We lived in those SAME areas when they were aesthetically much rougher and we were much poorer(My Dad's final wahe was £20 per week and we had no car) but we DID have one thing in 98% of cases, which was TWO Parents BOTH at home,living with us with The Father providing emotional,practical and financial support and we built a strong Community. Most of these kids do NOT live with their Dad and the hardworking Mum then has 2 jobs so she is not there either so the kids are ppoor and the streets become their home with all its societal consequences. I was 17 just 2 miles from Brikki and Peckham b4 I knew ANYONE without 2 Parents. THAT is the difference.
I've been through years of abuse as a child. Bad influences around me at times. But I walked away. Now I live that "normal" life. Good job, wife and 3 kids. I ain't looking over my shoulder no more. If I can do it, anybody can. Find happiness. I know these guys can't say they are truly happy. But they can make a change if they put their heart into it.
Total credit to you. To break away from the madness, you deserve a medal, just as much as any soldier deserves one. Your future lives will be blessed because of all the hard work you put in , in this life. You should be very proud of yourselsf
'If pus and dog can live together, what's wrong with loving one another? If pus and dog can live together, what's wrong with you my brother?' Bob Marley.
Thank you for your self righteous take on something you know nothing about. Get back to your white children, make sure they become cops and landowners and shit.
You have literally given me the biggest nostalgia trip, I'm from south London - Morden to be precise, which is only a tube ride away from Brixton and Peckham. I grew up knowing a load of these gangs and even knowing a few people from them. Gangs such as PDC, GAS Gang and PYG were known all throughout mine and the surrounding areas, was mad hearing those names again!
@@danielmiller8238 ha ha ha, I was born and raised in Croydon. I moved away in 2009 when I bought my own house. Definitely interesting growing up there throughout the late 90’s
Dami’s killing was an accident had nothing to do with gangs. Silly children playing with bottles and accidentally stabbed him.. Rest in peace Damilola 🙏🏿🖤🙏🏿
@@mxxksxtAre you even aware of the environment of the region, mate? It did not remotely matter - class was the prevailing factor mate. If you're young, that's an excuse.
I hope the 2009 gangs are now olders, see these videos and just look back and think there was no method to madness. So many lives wasted. Now the drill scene is filling the void
I grew up in tulse Hill I remember all this madness going on. Then we moved Croydon and now in my 30s I live in Birmingham I honestly didn't think I would live this long myself I got lucky. Bless the creator. God is good
This guy pretty much explained how mad the old school generation was compared to now... Them years were fun and very dangerous times. Nowadays anyone can switch on each other.
Now it’s too much socials and cameras man. Back then it was word of mouth of who was this or doing that. Mad times, go to a rave or Shepherd’s Bush Market you know you could get stopped and robbed for your Nokia 6230 or your change.
Damn man. I grew up as a teen in late 2000s and into 2010s in Brixton. I was never involved in gangs but got robbed back in 2010 by a group of boys. Didn't actually appreciate it being this bad but I was always on edge when walking to and from home during my teens up until I turned like 18 or so. Kinda coincides with the beginning of gentrification and me becoming an adult.
I didn’t have much near , dead parks and that was it so we used our imagination , didn’t think of dealing drugs or carrying weapons or wanting to fight or going around thinking we were in a gang. A crew yes but not a gang. The government never helped me get a job. I took responsibility for that myself. I went out there and made it happen. You don’t need a government handout or a youth centre park to get a job
I come from the Walworth road area and lived on the north Peckham estate when it was new. We left in 78 when it started getting bad. These guys will grow up one day and realise how childish they were and that people died as a result of territory gang culture. Peckham and Brixton have a wonderful and diverse culture that should be celebrated with these guys setting a positive example to their piers and respectful to parents who I prob went to school with. I live in hope that living in the UK as UK citizens means to respect each other. Please please please turn rivalry into sport contests or channel aggression in a managed way. We are all human with families who are hurt by actions of a minority. Be safe guys.
Real men, I say real men, don't need to bitch and beef with their fellow human man. A lot of the wannabe be gangsters are pissed off, and want to see other people pissed off, to relieve their hatred and anger and boredom. It could be a cry for help, which deep inside they can't sadly express, because of mob mentality. Rich or poor don't cut it, some people are born evil and some are easily led astray. This, as in Johannesburg was inevitable. Treat people with respect and most will give it back. The poorest ghettos in the Philippines have the happiest children who just play and are so polite and courteous to strangers, with no possessions or toys.Yet we see western children, so miserable with all their mod-cons.
damn its crazy how i lived in peckham as a child around these times completely clueless as to what went on until recent years realising my life couldve been taken. scary things
I’m from the Bronx. It’s so sad to see the same thing happening. Many people over here grew up with each other but now separate and beef because of a specific neighborhood they are in. I have 2 older cousins who are literally beefing and trying to go at each others necks. I grew up with them and it’s insane to think that I have to witness 2 older brother like figures threaten each other because of some stupid little beef
Cant imagine living like this. Everyone deserves so much more man. These kids should just be able to grow up and be chill and at peaceeee. All the arguing an eye for an eye will never end untill they all finally realise its got too deep. Sad man 😔😔
@@user-br3bw7wr2l The music industry promote violent, drug related behaviour. Its all part of the bigger plan, who do you think started encro chat, the service that gave drug dealers and hitmen a profile all over Europe and the UK? That same service that was infiltrated by international police, and they now pick them off one by one, take the proceeds and sells the excess back to the streets at 100% profit. Powers in high places with extremely sophisticated knowledge pulling the strings. Just turn the radio on in the UK to 1xtra and that will tell you all you need to know cheers.
@@user-br3bw7wr2l you sound like you was a victim of bullying. These people have nothing and they will do anything to get something. Similar to the elite
Same shit happens over here in the states. I live in nyc and I’m blessed to have a mom who does everything she can and a father who tries his best with the little he knows but I just ride by myself. I’m 18 focused on my goals with barely any friends because all of these kids are just unfortunately no good
@@donathan2933 right. Also similar in how everywhere you turn, somebody’s affiliated and it’s infested with gangs. Or I should say gangs and gang culture run the city. It’s sucks growing up because you’re expected to be in a gang
Best advice I can give a young man is get fit and strong while you're young, it is amazing for your mental health, work hard and be nice, respectful and always keep your circle small. it's not so easy when you're older
Big ups from Australia bro. Good to see more and more channels, like Scarcity, Ape Huncho and yourself, shedding light on the street violence that plagues the UK. Keep it up brother, keen for more content 💯
For an Aussie living in Streatham in 2008 I was naive and went to a club in Brixton only when I left I was was lost and didn’t know which way to get home and walked around aimlessly. Ended up in some back streets near an estate and was set upon by about 5 teens with machetes robbed me, phone, wallet etc. Could have been worse.
Funny I grew up in Brixton in the 80s and 90s, just off Railton Road aka the front line, when it was considered to be really bad, by the mid 2000s I thought it was pretty much a middle class area and kind of missed the old Wild West vibe 😂 To be honest I didn’t think Brixton or Peckham were dangerous back then, New Cross was where I’d get nervous about going, it was crazy there. The worst thing about Brixton is when I lived there friends just straight used to refuse to visit my yard because they were scared and now I can’t afford to live there because it’s too expensive…
HARD TO BELIEVE that when I played Football for my Primary School team n The Borough of Southwark and played Away to Keuwort/Townend/Crampton/Charlotte Sharman/St Judes/St Pauls/St Johns/English Martyrs and others and including my Walworth Road School: St. Peters I NEVER SAW ANY NON-WHITE KIDS. NOT ONE and the whole school seemed to turn out for those games and when I went to Secondary School at The Kennington Oval just one mile from Brixton and 3 miles from Peckham there were only 5 Non-White kids in the 5 years both above and below mine and including my year that is 11 school years and I saw ONE Fight in all the 6 years I was there. I think you could say the area has changed. haha
Lived in New Cross, went to school in Peckham. Remember seeing a gang fight between Peckham and Lewisham right outside my house. Bottles flying everywhere. I'm so glad I got out of London.
Probably a bit late to point out but several times you refer to Walworth Road as ‘Woolwich road’ as it seems you’ve misheard the song lyrics - what he is actually saying is ‘wooly road’ which is what the locals call Walworth road (like how we used to call the shop Woolworths ‘woolies’). I lived there for over 30 years. My boyfriend at the time was brother to one of the people you mention and wasn’t a member but got caught up all the same. I witnessed violence happen on my own doorstep by other people you mention. It really was crazy back then. And so sad when Ryan Bravo was killed. Mad times.
Bro there’s a few errors in this video, Sunday Essiet was not killed in Peckham or Brixton. He was killed in plumstead and the killers were not from Peckham or Brixton..
I watched this video with someone who knew Sunday and the incorrect reporting did upset her..gotta be sure of the facts when speaking on people who have passed ✊🏾 good channel, enjoying the content 👍🏾
I live in Athens, Greece. I'm 17 years old and kids around my age are beefing about postcodes. Ive never been about that life and I have got jumped because I was from "territory 1" by "territory 2" members. I can't understand how young kids like me throw their lives away like that. Even if they change their minds later on their deep in that life and probably will be killed if they try to run away. Just sad how life has so many things to do and you choose death pretty much. Sorry for bad English
Midlands is also cheaper. I'm still here in South and it ain't as bad as it used to be like 15-20 years ago, but main issue is that housing is hella expensive.
I left school in 07 and lived in Milton Keynes and Northampton. Both towns had this same postcode shit happening. Not on the same scale or level but it weren’t good. I look back at it as the good old days but amount of people’s lives that were affected it’s insane!
@@declannann1010 i moved from streatham when I was a kid now live in Leicester and there’s still teens who have postcode wars between RW and Mash sides but it’s a lot more safer for me that’s south london streatham
Do a vid on Peckham’s beef with Ghetto Boys from Lewisham, i think this beef was the one rap man made a movie about in Blue Story, would be mad to see it explained how it was irl like this vid. Love it.
London is a tough place to grow up , in my day if you made eye contact with another dude and looked away first you felt like a coward . Me and my mates went to see yellow man at the academy in Brixton . We had to leave they wanted to rob us . PDC robbed everyone .
I remember this shit from the 90s, that's the era I experienced. It was fully active on both sides. Shootings stabbings, robberies etc. It was a crazy time to be in. Big up yourself for the upload my G. Your narrative is on point. 👊🏾💯
@@ST4RSH4PED in America, the word estate is defined as : an extensive area of land in the country, usually with a large house, owned by one person, family, or organization. Now you know why I think it’s funny you use the word estate for poor people?
You say Peckham lads had no opportunity... But they live in a city 40 miles wide with millions of opportunities and a world class public transport system to get the opportunity ...
All this violence so they have a big rep, a name. When convicted for years they are soon forgotten and it was all for nothing. Too many families ruined, the victims family and also the convicts family torn apart. Probably have kids and cant provide because theyre locked up. A real man provides, gets up every morning. He doesnt get locked up for some beef. Very sad these gangsters. Got no class. They dont realise the guys that pull the strings are ghosts.
Watching this now to remind myself how much crud in the ends was going on back in the late 2000s. He didn’t even mention Gipset and all the Norwood/Croydon gang beefs.
Yo young brother get your facts right when you talk about beefs that have supposedly been going on for decades . I'm talking 1980s 90s etc. Back in the day when I was out there so to speak (I'm a grandad now) Brixton had Raiders massive and Hang man crew pre pdc etc peckham was the peckham man dem , lewisham was the ghetto man , high road, catford man dem , brockley man dem/turnham. In these times Brixton at times so called beefed with , peckham and high road. There were tensions between high road and ghetto. Peckham and Brixton beef escalated in the 2000s. The Yardman influence in all areas late 80s caused things to start getting hectic. Gun play etc. English born youts stepped up their activities. Unlike today , most people had family etc in different areas which often led to beefs getting squashed.
Growing up in the middle of this, it’s normal and you’re oblivious to how crazy it sounds. You’re just used to not talking to certain people you know in public or not walking a certain way home among other things…. As an adult watching this, it’s actually insane we lived through it 😮
This vid ha been saved into my "Why you left London" folder. For real. South London at this time was completely raggo, I grew up in Morden, but moved all around in Streatham, Brixton, Battersea, Clapham North, Clapham Junction etc. At this time specifically I was in a flatshare in Loughborough Junction which in the late 90's early 00's had folk living under the bridge by the train station and was akin to Night Of The Living Dead in terms of the huge, huge amount of crackheads. A lot is said about Brixton, but at this time you just didn't go to Peckham, or if you did and you were not from those ends, a day time visit was the call to make as that main train station back then was very, very quiet, eerie in fact and not served regularly as it is now. The Peckham of today is completely unrecognisable. As mentioned in a comment below mentions need to made for New Cross, a place that I always felt unsafe in coupled with the huge geography of Streatham, which much like much of London had million pound houses back to back with severe poverty, a massive prostitution problem (the auxiliary roads off Streatham High Road leading to Tooting Bec common) and loads of crack/trap houses. Sadly an uncle of mine was shot in the chest at point blank range with a sawn off shotgun during a botched robbery at a builders yard in Streatham around this time. I'm so glad I finally left.
Lmao whilst all this was popping off I was just chilling playing cod 4, strange to think whilst I was in the happiest time of my life these guys were living in hell
@@steviejrr true, but the victims were living in hell & rationality dictates that there will be instances of good people born into bad circumstances, speaks volumes about our society
@@qwertyreejej9584 Middle class are racist just like the chavs they don't care about black people these people moving into London are not born and bred locals ,most locals hailed to Essex.
Nice to see these people inriching the streets of London with their community spirit. Must be a wonderful place to live. And people question why stop and search is carried out. These people are blighting communities with their "brainless" actions. These people dont belong in society.
The guys an idiot, he got bare things wrong. thats why it's best to leave it to the people who were actually part of the peckham v brixton war to tell the story
these guys beefed with each other even though they came from the same conditions and struggle, just a different post code, waste of life man
It starts as beef for territory to sell drugs but slowly its just become a full on postcode war where anyone from the other side can get it even if they're not a drug dealer who's threatenening their business
Totally agree
A post code they didn't even own the fools
truth
Now they are cool
The funny thing is their parents were immigrants and look how they reward their parents for their hardwork.
Lol why does every1 think it begins wiv children dont u realise children dont hang on the block and buy bare drugs and sell dem
@@ql8182 I knew not to join a gang at the age of ten because 1: people in gangs die, and 2: lots of people in gangs are in prison/are lost causes with no successes in their lives. If A kid as young as 10 can realise this shit, so can young teens/adults.
Take the kid that was begging for his life for example; how tf did he not realise he could die BEFORE he got murdered? Why make those choices when you KNOW and most likely have seen the risks happen to someone else?
@@charlottemartin4715 what u on about i sed why does wvery1 think gangs start wiv kids and ur telling me ur life story wtf
@@charlottemartin4715 just call your internet provider and ask them to cancel your subscription, try a puzzle or something. The internet isn’t the place for you.
They felt unwanted
I was born in Lewisham in 88. Meaning I was 17 in 2006. It was bad around these parts. Absolute madness. I ended up drifting into wrong crowds for a while and scenarios that make me wonder how I’m still alive. For me, home life was so bad that I didn’t want to be there. So I mad the streets my home. I imagine it was the same for many of these kids. I’m 33 now, and I pray that things have changed. I still live in Brockley, SE London and things seem to have changed. I think a big key to change is education and understanding yourself. Who you are, who you want to be and why you do what you do. But let me tell you something, all of this shit, no matter where it takes place, is traumatic and has real detrimental consequences. So let’s hope and pray that things continue to improve. Change for the kids starts at home (parents) and with the system. No more can us people from instability and troubled homes, allow that or a neglectful societal system mess up our future. God I pray people see the truth. Love not war 🧡
Y.Kraver era
Was you in ghetto gang?
@@ka7385 no, I wasn’t in any gang but I knew a lot of people who were.
I used to live in Brixton and am now in Lewisham don't worry if is very safe here
Annoying you are
These kids are an embarassment to their hard working parents and grandparents who emigrated to the uk for a better life.
What about the children who's grandparents are not immigrants are they not also an embarrassment. I dont see difference between 3 generation immigrants to this country and the indigenous population !
@@guguncube2308 obviously
@Willy Watkins exactly
It is a better life though? They brought their kids to a worse life and worse environment. If they were poor where they come from race wasn't a thing there, they were not subjected to extreme discrimination and were not excluded from social circles like scum just for being "different." In the UK they came to this dysfunctional environment and to be honest with you, not everyone has mental capacity and nervous system strong enough to deal with all the visions around. Some go crazy and become unrecognisable with no chance to recover. If ur strong enough to get out of the hood, you deserve a crown, mad respect. And hard-working parents cannot always heal the wounds unfortunately.
U know nothing about this life so don't talk about it like u understand it
Postcode wars?!?! These guys probably don’t even pay council tax and wanna go on like they own summat🤦🏽♂️
What’s summat u mong
@@tripler8411 he's defo not from ldn
@@michael43567 fr defo from birms
Mate, they’re all on benefits.
They all say “we’re stuck in this life,” instead of saying “hmmm, maybe if I get an education and job, I could get out of here permanently.”
They want everything handed to them without putting in any effort…..Simple as.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I grew up and still live in Peckham. I have close family members who got caught up in this life despite having certain opportunities offered to them. I've even dated someone from this era, and let me tell you, their mentality and attitude to life is DIFFERENT. It's actually weird, like I can't even describe it because I don't get it mostly.
Living that life sticks with them even though they're out of it, and I can tell its a challenge for them to maintain mental stability now that they address the madness they partook in. It's sad to know so many of these boys give up their childhood for this shit.
what do you mean by their attitude to life is different
Real shit.. Peckz = One big bag of snakes and no ladders..
Survival rate is low round here, reaching 25 is a lot
This was the realist comment I have seen before . I salute you for trying to be someone's peace . The madness never leaves after and many of us never understood . Left the life but the life can't leave us . No matter how far you move and the trauma can be damaging . People are always going to feed their family's and poverty is easily lead for young minds to move towards grinding of road . And the cost of living is still rising the crimes are getting worse .
I grew up in Peckham I slyly miss it but it was scary man. I’m glad I’ve escaped I’m now a doctor genuinely can’t believe where my life is now
Congratulations bro
well done sir maybe u can go back and talk to da youth
My guy 👍🏾
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Well done 👊...The area needs people like you to mentor the young ones, showing them that there is more to life than Road life/ street life. The young ones are too much into this street life and are ending up killing each other.
Man's knowledge/research is immense. Deserves recognition.
Lol.
Mans research...
He’s a good informant innit
@Femz A why
A lot of stuff in the video is very inaccurate
@Daniel Billington a fantasy?? Boy you alright??
I used to work in Peckham in 2002, I was only 19 years old. I worked on one of the rough estates, as a trainee window fitter. I got a lift to the train station from an Irish guy who I made friends with. It turned out he had just come out of jail for murder.
We lived in those SAME areas when they were aesthetically much rougher and we were much poorer(My Dad's final wahe was £20 per week and we had no car) but we DID have one thing in 98% of cases, which was TWO Parents BOTH at home,living with us with The Father providing emotional,practical and financial support and we built a strong Community. Most of these kids do NOT live with their Dad and the hardworking Mum then has 2 jobs so she is not there either so the kids are ppoor and the streets become their home with all its societal consequences. I was 17 just 2 miles from Brikki and Peckham b4 I knew ANYONE without 2 Parents. THAT is the difference.
I've been through years of abuse as a child. Bad influences around me at times. But I walked away. Now I live that "normal" life. Good job, wife and 3 kids. I ain't looking over my shoulder no more. If I can do it, anybody can. Find happiness. I know these guys can't say they are truly happy. But they can make a change if they put their heart into it.
Well done m8
Well done. Many of us have had shite lives, but we don't end up doing crap like this.
Total credit to you. To break away from the madness, you deserve a medal, just as much as any soldier deserves one. Your future lives will be blessed because of all the hard work you put in , in this life. You should be very proud of yourselsf
They should be deported and whoever was in charge when they arrived should be imprisoned.
Good on you bro
And those gangs don't own a single brick in Peckham or Brixton. SMH. Get a cell and throw them all in, please. The rest of us just want to get on.
Just a dig a really big hole and throw them all into it, cover it up job done
Ya acting like they still beefing now
@@cbking1592 cos the post code shit is still happening the uk has the dumbest foundations for gang wars.
Well said
@@Jking86 nah it’s the same as anywhere else bonehead. Gangs are territorial
Teenagers are still children. It's real madness, for postcode gangs to be killing one another over over area they don't own.
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'If pus and dog can live together, what's wrong with loving one another? If pus and dog can live together, what's wrong with you my brother?' Bob Marley.
It’s not over the area it’s over the gang in that area and what they done
Thank you for your self righteous take on something you know nothing about. Get back to your white children, make sure they become cops and landowners and shit.
You have literally given me the biggest nostalgia trip, I'm from south London - Morden to be precise, which is only a tube ride away from Brixton and Peckham. I grew up knowing a load of these gangs and even knowing a few people from them. Gangs such as PDC, GAS Gang and PYG were known all throughout mine and the surrounding areas, was mad hearing those names again!
Grew up in Morden aswell in Sutton now just around the corner. Croydon is defo a no go zone.
@@danielmiller8238 ha ha ha, I was born and raised in Croydon. I moved away in 2009 when I bought my own house. Definitely interesting growing up there throughout the late 90’s
@@danielmiller8238 croydon ain’t as bad as people say. Area is starting to get gentrified anyways. Just don’t go west croydon 🤣
@@justinharper4248 Or Thorton Heath lol
Iam from Morden too
Peckham a 10 year old boy Damilola Taylor was stabbed on the 27 November 2000 the boy had only been on the country for 2 weeks.
That's too fucked up
I lived in the same block as him on Southampton road, never knew him but he was the same age
Dami’s killing was an accident had nothing to do with gangs. Silly children playing with bottles and accidentally stabbed him.. Rest in peace Damilola 🙏🏿🖤🙏🏿
@@logicali9575 are you smoking crack?
@@ITSTHATBOYAGAIN90 no I’m from old Kent rd I know the truth
Idk why, but a street gang where everyone has knives is just scarier to me than if everyone had guns.
I rather be shot than getting chased and stabbed over 20 times. But London isnt wild like Chicago. Very rare to get stabbed
@@endzsceenz9857 wild where????
@@boogz9460 Chicago
@@endzsceenz9857 shut up. That’s just disrespectful to the parents in London that lose their kids to stabbings EVERYDAY
London ain't bad as these fanny try to make out it is. 90% of these clowns will not stab you if they ain't in a gang
And now they are both gentrified and the olders moved out to the same ends
True they all moved to Thornton Heath and them ends now
@@Sabotaz80xx no wonder Thorntons makes so much chocolate
@@Normaldude10174 whats chocolate
@@Sabotaz80xx is that why dumb shit happens here now
ngl still don’t know how i survived as a teenager living in brixton around the years of 2007-2012 💀
maybe bc you’re not black💀
@@mxxksxtAre you even aware of the environment of the region, mate? It did not remotely matter - class was the prevailing factor mate. If you're young, that's an excuse.
I hope the 2009 gangs are now olders, see these videos and just look back and think there was no method to madness. So many lives wasted. Now the drill scene is filling the void
Yes Tobjizzle you're making that bread yano.
Is it actually him I fully thought it was him when I first heard him 😭🤣🤣
@@LugarLatore haha, no it's not
@@hdj2jmdn746 that would’ve been jokes 😂😂
Nah you’re buggin
Doesn’t sound like him unless you’re saying it just coz of the London accent
I grew up in Croydon and was constantly surrounded by gangs lucky I didn't involve myself in any and eventually moved more up South
I grew up in tulse Hill I remember all this madness going on. Then we moved Croydon and now in my 30s I live in Birmingham I honestly didn't think I would live this long myself I got lucky. Bless the creator. God is good
God bless you and your family.
Praise God for your life 🙏🏾
Mad ting
Mhm
Is tulse hill that bad
Yes. Most of us know to avoid going through Brixton or Peckham unless you really have to.
This guy pretty much explained how mad the old school generation was compared to now... Them years were fun and very dangerous times. Nowadays anyone can switch on each other.
Now it’s too much socials and cameras man. Back then it was word of mouth of who was this or doing that. Mad times, go to a rave or Shepherd’s Bush Market you know you could get stopped and robbed for your Nokia 6230 or your change.
Damn man. I grew up as a teen in late 2000s and into 2010s in Brixton. I was never involved in gangs but got robbed back in 2010 by a group of boys. Didn't actually appreciate it being this bad but I was always on edge when walking to and from home during my teens up until I turned like 18 or so. Kinda coincides with the beginning of gentrification and me becoming an adult.
I didn’t have much near , dead parks and that was it so we used our imagination , didn’t think of dealing drugs or carrying weapons or wanting to fight or going around thinking we were in a gang. A crew yes but not a gang. The government never helped me get a job. I took responsibility for that myself. I went out there and made it happen. You don’t need a government handout or a youth centre park to get a job
as a kid from Peckham I knew it was this bad but at that time we are desensitised to it, some of us even thought it was cool.
It’s ‘Wooly’ road, as in ‘Walworth Road’ which is in Southwark.. There isn’t a ‘Woolwich Road’ in Lambeth or Southwark to my knowledge 👀
I come from the Walworth road area and lived on the north Peckham estate when it was new. We left in 78 when it started getting bad. These guys will grow up one day and realise how childish they were and that people died as a result of territory gang culture. Peckham and Brixton have a wonderful and diverse culture that should be celebrated with these guys setting a positive example to their piers and respectful to parents who I prob went to school with. I live in hope that living in the UK as UK citizens means to respect each other. Please please please turn rivalry into sport contests or channel aggression in a managed way. We are all human with families who are hurt by actions of a minority. Be safe guys.
Real men, I say real men, don't need to bitch and beef with their fellow human man. A lot of the wannabe be gangsters are pissed off, and want to see other people pissed off, to relieve their hatred and anger and boredom. It could be a cry for help, which deep inside they can't sadly express, because of mob mentality. Rich or poor don't cut it, some people are born evil and some are easily led astray. This, as in Johannesburg was inevitable. Treat people with respect and most will give it back. The poorest ghettos in the Philippines have the happiest children who just play and are so polite and courteous to strangers, with no possessions or toys.Yet we see western children, so miserable with all their mod-cons.
@@paulkitchen1846 facts
Well said
A person in United States, WE just don't know LONDON ain't JUST NO TOURIST SPOT. ITS NEW YORK, CHICAGO, MEMPHIS, DETROIT, AND,. OAKLAND. COMBINED.
This is exactly the result your "diverse culture" brings. Enjoy!
Our boys got a sponsor
Cmonnnnn
Ys g
First socks then the world
damn its crazy how i lived in peckham as a child around these times completely clueless as to what went on until recent years realising my life couldve been taken. scary things
I’m from the Bronx. It’s so sad to see the same thing happening. Many people over here grew up with each other but now separate and beef because of a specific neighborhood they are in. I have 2 older cousins who are literally beefing and trying to go at each others necks. I grew up with them and it’s insane to think that I have to witness 2 older brother like figures threaten each other because of some stupid little beef
Cant imagine living like this. Everyone deserves so much more man.
These kids should just be able to grow up and be chill and at peaceeee. All the arguing an eye for an eye will never end untill they all finally realise its got too deep.
Sad man 😔😔
The amount of birds you’d get with those “ Mad Ting “ Socks.
😂😂😂
Hundreds!
@@bushwacka8395 unimaginable figures.
@Willy Watkins there's always a knuckle dragger willing to lower the tone of a thread!
Do hackney vs Tottenham next that beef was crazy and it was linked to the "murder mile" in hackney
tru say mark duggan was killed in the way to m a hackney member
@@A1un9ine Mark had 2 bodies that were known of he was a certi killer
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@@Akm_699 🧢
@@elz5706 starrish Mark had bodies apparently
The powers that be have the poor exactly where they want them. Killing and destroying each others well being while they sit and laugh
Nothing like blaming someone else for murdering and killing. These people will use anything to use economic circumstances to excuse thuggery.
Yeah man they're the one killing each other over nothing. The rich people laugh at them because they're brain dead.
The powers didnt make them do this they chose to do this themselves
@@user-br3bw7wr2l The music industry promote violent, drug related behaviour. Its all part of the bigger plan, who do you think started encro chat, the service that gave drug dealers and hitmen a profile all over Europe and the UK? That same service that was infiltrated by international police, and they now pick them off one by one, take the proceeds and sells the excess back to the streets at 100% profit.
Powers in high places with extremely sophisticated knowledge pulling the strings.
Just turn the radio on in the UK to 1xtra and that will tell you all you need to know cheers.
@@user-br3bw7wr2l you sound like you was a victim of bullying. These people have nothing and they will do anything to get something. Similar to the elite
Same shit happens over here in the states. I live in nyc and I’m blessed to have a mom who does everything she can and a father who tries his best with the little he knows but I just ride by myself. I’m 18 focused on my goals with barely any friends because all of these kids are just unfortunately no good
Respect man. NYC and London are similar man. Many children in both cities are descendants of Caribbean and African immigrants
@@donathan2933 right. Also similar in how everywhere you turn, somebody’s affiliated and it’s infested with gangs. Or I should say gangs and gang culture run the city. It’s sucks growing up because you’re expected to be in a gang
@@PK5_144 facts. Bruh the shit sad
@@donathan2933 immigrants came to NYC wrecking havoc.
Best advice I can give a young man is get fit and strong while you're young, it is amazing for your mental health, work hard and be nice, respectful and always keep your circle small. it's not so easy when you're older
"it's not like that now" yes it is its worse in some parts. The media just don't show it as much any more 🤷♂️
especially outside of london
Definitely isn't like that now it's more gentrified and less black people compared to 07
Just binged a shit ton of your videos at 4am mate. Quality stuff.
Remember Sunday’s death like it was yesterday. The kid had a peak life fr
Mad as Sunday was 2 days ago
Lol
@kalle sauderlands coke plug verbalist nitty sym
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Coming from Peckham growing up in the YPB and PYG era I can say that 80% of this is correct.
Ofc it’s kid young
he got most of his information from reddit
@@supakitkat bad or good thing ?
@@Headie2 why bring that up?
@@supakitkat because of the way you said it
@5:48 I was at the SE1 club that night. I didn't see the shooting when it happened, but the evacuation of the club was a Madness that night!
The way these things are promoted on the Internet smh....
Ikr
Can see this blowing up 😁
Just popped up in my recommended I’m not from UK
Big ups from Australia bro. Good to see more and more channels, like Scarcity, Ape Huncho and yourself, shedding light on the street violence that plagues the UK.
Keep it up brother, keen for more content 💯
Big ego media
For an Aussie living in Streatham in 2008 I was naive and went to a club in Brixton only when I left I was was lost and didn’t know which way to get home and walked around aimlessly. Ended up in some back streets near an estate and was set upon by about 5 teens with machetes robbed me, phone, wallet etc. Could have been worse.
Yep you have to be careful where you wonder at night
Expell those apes
Sadiq Khan was asked for comment but he said "Getting the statue of Churchill removed and some roads renamed was far more important".
Funny I grew up in Brixton in the 80s and 90s, just off Railton Road aka the front line, when it was considered to be really bad, by the mid 2000s I thought it was pretty much a middle class area and kind of missed the old Wild West vibe 😂
To be honest I didn’t think Brixton or Peckham were dangerous back then, New Cross was where I’d get nervous about going, it was crazy there.
The worst thing about Brixton is when I lived there friends just straight used to refuse to visit my yard because they were scared and now I can’t afford to live there because it’s too expensive…
You should do 28s v Untouchables, old school 90s beef.
Deffo💯
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HARD TO BELIEVE that when I played Football for my Primary School team n The Borough of Southwark and played Away to Keuwort/Townend/Crampton/Charlotte Sharman/St Judes/St Pauls/St Johns/English Martyrs and others and including my Walworth Road School: St. Peters I NEVER SAW ANY NON-WHITE KIDS. NOT ONE and the whole school seemed to turn out for those games and when I went to Secondary School at The Kennington Oval just one mile from Brixton and 3 miles from Peckham there were only 5 Non-White kids in the 5 years both above and below mine and including my year that is 11 school years and I saw ONE Fight in all the 6 years I was there. I think you could say the area has changed. haha
Lived in New Cross, went to school in Peckham. Remember seeing a gang fight between Peckham and Lewisham right outside my house. Bottles flying everywhere. I'm so glad I got out of London.
Bye.
Bye?
Where did u go
School? St Thomas the Apostle in Nunhead.
Bye
Can’t lie this is throwbacks for days big up
Gangs started dropping disses at eachother in the uk waay before chicago started drill.
Jj is old school👀
Old school!! .....more like last week 🙄
@@bennyboy2079 last week more like last hour!
@@angina50 last hour!!! More like last minute
@@AlexM13282 last minute more like last second
@@dominicsantiagodelavega4306 last second more like millisecond
Nice video you should do Tottenham vs WoodGreen
In the 90s I lived just off Broadmoor and moved to Wood Green. But don’t blame me for the “war” 😁
This is the most notorious beef in South London this the era I grew up in
Area not era
@@crashsquad4974 Think he meant era as in he grew up in the time when the beef was popping.
@@zigzung5569 yh I misread it
I would of said ghetto vs Peckham or cherry vs woolwich are the worst
@@originalnutzie4409 Yh trust and otrey v ABM trust that beef had bodies dropping g
Probably a bit late to point out but several times you refer to Walworth Road as ‘Woolwich road’ as it seems you’ve misheard the song lyrics - what he is actually saying is ‘wooly road’ which is what the locals call Walworth road (like how we used to call the shop Woolworths ‘woolies’). I lived there for over 30 years. My boyfriend at the time was brother to one of the people you mention and wasn’t a member but got caught up all the same. I witnessed violence happen on my own doorstep by other people you mention. It really was crazy back then. And so sad when Ryan Bravo was killed. Mad times.
Bro there’s a few errors in this video, Sunday Essiet was not killed in Peckham or Brixton. He was killed in plumstead and the killers were not from Peckham or Brixton..
I watched this video with someone who knew Sunday and the incorrect reporting did upset her..gotta be sure of the facts when speaking on people who have passed ✊🏾 good channel, enjoying the content 👍🏾
@@RastamouseTV as someone from old Kent I can see this guy is talking facts
@@Billy-xv3pn Sunday was killed next to Greenwich college in plumstead
@@RastamouseTV yeah I know use to plot old Kent heard a lot about him
@@Billy-xv3pn www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/4372986.plumstead-four-given-life-sentences-for-sunday-essiet-murder/
I live in Athens, Greece. I'm 17 years old and kids around my age are beefing about postcodes. Ive never been about that life and I have got jumped because I was from "territory 1" by "territory 2" members. I can't understand how young kids like me throw their lives away like that. Even if they change their minds later on their deep in that life and probably will be killed if they try to run away. Just sad how life has so many things to do and you choose death pretty much. Sorry for bad English
Main reason I left South London in 2003, now live in the Midlands. It is boring, but no stress lol!!!
Midlands is also cheaper. I'm still here in South and it ain't as bad as it used to be like 15-20 years ago, but main issue is that housing is hella expensive.
I left school in 07 and lived in Milton Keynes and Northampton. Both towns had this same postcode shit happening. Not on the same scale or level but it weren’t good. I look back at it as the good old days but amount of people’s lives that were affected it’s insane!
@@declannann1010 i moved from streatham when I was a kid now live in Leicester and there’s still teens who have postcode wars between RW and Mash sides but it’s a lot more safer for me that’s south london streatham
@@user-ds8gf3ki2g well highfields and st matthews still get active but nowhere near as much tho
Do a vid on Peckham’s beef with Ghetto Boys from Lewisham, i think this beef was the one rap man made a movie about in Blue Story, would be mad to see it explained how it was irl like this vid. Love it.
London is a tough place to grow up , in my day if you made eye contact with another dude and looked away first you felt like a coward .
Me and my mates went to see yellow man at the academy in Brixton . We had to leave they wanted to rob us . PDC robbed everyone .
@Willy Watkins I am white
Mad..
Man said most infamous beef lol you don’t know about Tottenham vs Hackney
its not like the logical ppl want to become gangsters, we just wanna learn abt them
Brix vs Pecks was worst
I remember this shit from the 90s, that's the era I experienced. It was fully active on both sides. Shootings stabbings, robberies etc. It was a crazy time to be in. Big up yourself for the upload my G. Your narrative is on point. 👊🏾💯
Bruh, I feel you. Being a teenager in these days was mad. I grew up in Peckham and every man was on a eating flex. Now I see chicks in short skirts.
WORD
Its not even that unsafe going to areas like this anymore
chicks in peckham?
For real bro they be drunk and acting loose. West End is more dangerous these days then Peckham
@@happycactus9649 That’s like me saying eh what theres chicks in America I thought Americans were all gay inbreeds
I giggled every time you called their neighborhoods “Estate”. I would never picture violence in an area that is labeled Estate.
Means houses owned by the council/government and rented out to the most in need families. Probably from the us it's what u call housing projects
Man said giggled uno. Sarfff yute
@@KN-tq2kl swr dwn bruv 😂
idk in the uk we just call social housing ‘estates’
@@ST4RSH4PED in America, the word estate is defined as : an extensive area of land in the country, usually with a large house, owned by one person, family, or organization.
Now you know why I think it’s funny you use the word estate for poor people?
yes my guy got a sponsor
You say Peckham lads had no opportunity... But they live in a city 40 miles wide with millions of opportunities and a world class public transport system to get the opportunity ...
All this violence so they have a big rep, a name.
When convicted for years they are soon forgotten and it was all for nothing.
Too many families ruined, the victims family and also the convicts family torn apart. Probably have kids and cant provide because theyre locked up.
A real man provides, gets up every morning. He doesnt get locked up for some beef.
Very sad these gangsters. Got no class. They dont realise the guys that pull the strings are ghosts.
So true...
Watching this now to remind myself how much crud in the ends was going on back in the late 2000s. He didn’t even mention Gipset and all the Norwood/Croydon gang beefs.
You're a Legend for covering this beef❄️
He tired good info tho
Baby Ryder got killed in Plumstead in 08 by Draftee and Knifer who are from T-Block in Thamesmead it had nothing to do with narm lol
Stuck so deep in this matrix if your in a gang beefing
Wooly Road=Walworth Road, not Woolwich Road
Meant to say that
Wooly = woolwich 🤡
Dam g watching this doc just brought back many nostalgic feelings especially being from these endz
Yo young brother get your facts right when you talk about beefs that have supposedly been going on for decades . I'm talking 1980s 90s etc. Back in the day when I was out there so to speak (I'm a grandad now) Brixton had Raiders massive and Hang man crew pre pdc etc peckham was the peckham man dem , lewisham was the ghetto man , high road, catford man dem , brockley man dem/turnham. In these times Brixton at times so called beefed with , peckham and high road. There were tensions between high road and ghetto. Peckham and Brixton beef escalated in the 2000s. The Yardman influence in all areas late 80s caused things to start getting hectic. Gun play etc. English born youts stepped up their activities. Unlike today , most people had family etc in different areas which often led to beefs getting squashed.
This is insane!!! Well done for putting this together it was very interesting
Imagine if they learnt to get long.. have fun one life man
the intro... GET YOUR MONEYYY 🔥🔥🔥
Who made the beat
Growing up in the middle of this, it’s normal and you’re oblivious to how crazy it sounds. You’re just used to not talking to certain people you know in public or not walking a certain way home among other things…. As an adult watching this, it’s actually insane we lived through it 😮
your research game is on point!! had to subscribe str8 away.
same!!
Brixton and peckham was mad lool even girls were involved in the the beef
@@noisey3596 burgess park?
@@rogermoore9516 yhhh😂😂😂
@@sheggy3658 why you answering? The question wasn’t sent to you
@@patricktate4782 why are you getting involved
@@Ryan-uh9le why are you getting involved?
Oii my guy moving mad with a sponsor and that
That MP had a vest because shes a public figure walking with police ....not because shes dodging bullits flying over head 😄
This vid ha been saved into my "Why you left London" folder. For real. South London at this time was completely raggo, I grew up in Morden, but moved all around in Streatham, Brixton, Battersea, Clapham North, Clapham Junction etc. At this time specifically I was in a flatshare in Loughborough Junction which in the late 90's early 00's had folk living under the bridge by the train station and was akin to Night Of The Living Dead in terms of the huge, huge amount of crackheads. A lot is said about Brixton, but at this time you just didn't go to Peckham, or if you did and you were not from those ends, a day time visit was the call to make as that main train station back then was very, very quiet, eerie in fact and not served regularly as it is now. The Peckham of today is completely unrecognisable. As mentioned in a comment below mentions need to made for New Cross, a place that I always felt unsafe in coupled with the huge geography of Streatham, which much like much of London had million pound houses back to back with severe poverty, a massive prostitution problem (the auxiliary roads off Streatham High Road leading to Tooting Bec common) and loads of crack/trap houses. Sadly an uncle of mine was shot in the chest at point blank range with a sawn off shotgun during a botched robbery at a builders yard in Streatham around this time. I'm so glad I finally left.
attention to detail in this is mad ! keep up the good work !
Lmao whilst all this was popping off I was just chilling playing cod 4, strange to think whilst I was in the happiest time of my life these guys were living in hell
Brudda have you seen the state of the middle east?
Happiest time of ur life? Fix up my Ute u can get rich and be happier tha before u were a ute
@@datway3582 spoken like a fools fool.
living hell? They love this they do it for attention they got choices they just choose this cuz they think they're hard if they stab someone
@@steviejrr true, but the victims were living in hell & rationality dictates that there will be instances of good people born into bad circumstances, speaks volumes about our society
Can you do a Tottenham and hackney
You should do one on the brumtown burger bar boys vs Johnsons crew beef
London gangs got nothing on these lot
Honestly, if I had a nose or a forehead like some of these guys, I'd be fucking dangerous too.
Sad to see the country go down this route!
Them white hippies turned hackney to a joke
True dat
@? they everywhere now. Bare middle class white people taking over
@@qwertyreejej9584 Middle class are racist just like the chavs they don't care about black people these people moving into London are not born and bred locals ,most locals hailed to Essex.
It's Walworth Road blud, Wooly for short
Nice to see these people inriching the streets of London with their community spirit.
Must be a wonderful place to live. And people question why stop and search is carried out. These people are blighting communities with their "brainless" actions.
These people dont belong in society.
Londonistan
Police are too corrupted for them to be trusted with stop and searching people whenever they want. Use sense.
Sad…
That’s not tiny nutty ...that’s Sylvester that passed aka “vester”
The guys an idiot, he got bare things wrong. thats why it's best to leave it to the people who were actually part of the peckham v brixton war to tell the story
Do a story abt Peckham Lettsom pls
we are so tough 40 of us had a fight with a jack russell who accidently walked down the wrong road
That's funny.
yes,
Wow the 28s didn't even get mentioned in the history
28s vid on my channel..
Do a part 2 video bro but cover Brixton a bit more ✅✅
I heard that the beef originated as africans vs yardies
I never here of these so called gangs going to the local police stations and beefing them
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The riots
You never seen the riots and Brixton violating police officers but they don't do it every time
When I was younger back in the 1980s the police station there was supposed to be like a fortress