Ex-GM Truck Exec Rates the Tesla Cybertruck
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- Terry Woychowski is the president of Caresoft, a company that does vehicles teardowns and benchmarking. But he also ran GM full-size truck program earlier in his career and retired as a vice president. He really knows trucks and has some great insights about the Tesla Cybertruck.
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Why does everyone fail to mention this is MADE & Designed in USA. We should be proud to have this in the USA.
Probably because that isn't that important.
One word…
Hate, Jealousy, Envy
Tesla 🇺🇸
More American content than any other vehicle.
Great review. Taking delivery of mine tomorrow and now can’t wait!
@@RayNLA That's three.
Woychowski mentioned that hay and other debris fall into the tailgate crack, and then falls onto the rear bumper when closing the tailgate. However, I've owned a lot of pickup trucks over the last 35 years, and they ALL did the same thing! This problem is not unique to the Cybertruck.
Exactly my Ford and RAM both do the same thing
Searching for a negative. Dude did that a few times. Rough over frost heaves…🤷♂️ as if other pickups ride over them any better!
And oh the humanity he could see between the a-pillar and wiper 🤬 how dare Tesla
Lol
Right, I thought the same thing.
Just punch the accelerator to remove the debris off the bumper
Debris falling out of the slot when you close the gate sounds like a feature to me and not a flaw!
He was an ex GM Exec? 😳 Now it makes total sense with GM.
The steel ball did not go through the window.
He does seem a little lacking in attentiveness.
@@johnmcvicker6728 Yea complaining about the steering wheel being bad for hand over hand use, when that would never happen in this thing.
Might as well gone through...given the cracks and gasping from everybody. 😅
@@gnoxycat ive got a different issue with the steering. i drive euro semi trucks and we have a higher trim level volvo with electric power steering. it has some sort of dynamic steering so the slower you go the lighter it is, but it's not just very light under 15mph when manouvering and firmer at speed, it's got different weights at 30mph than at 40mph or at 50mph. that makes it very hard to predict what's it going to do when you chuck in into a corner or a roundabout. imagine this thing with the "god knows how much steering i'm getting" column.
@diennkguyen Well, the whole point was that it didn't go through. It's safer than the traditional car window. And this guy said it went through, and it didn't. He was introduced as some guy with a lot of truck and automotive experience, and all I heard was someone who couldn't get facts straight and gave thoughtless opinions. Makes the whole video a waste of time. The video should be titled "another random person with a Cybertruck gives his opinion, chasing the CT hype."
The criticism over the wiper controls being on the screen as dangerous was off. There is a wiper on/off button on the steering wheel/squircle. Once activated, you can change the speed with the wheel next to it. The controls are duplicated on the screen.
Wait what? My car from 2010 has automatic wipers, with a dust and rain sensor. I harldey never using the wipe controls. Dont Cybertruck have that to?
Sure it does, but he fail to get a lot of things about this truck. Like, why complain about the steering wheel shape if you never actually need to move your hands across it: whether for work or for something else. It is designed that way: you really don’t have to, that’s why they’ve implemented steer-by-wire with progressive steering.
Wiper stalks are a solved problem. Tesla removed them to save money at the expense of usability.
@@NitroZakis Because he's driven it on his ranch, and you haven't.
@@savedfaves What point are you referring to?
One of the first 2 things this guy said about the Cybertruck unveiling were totally false! 1. The glass was never said to be bullet proof. 2. The steel ball did not go through the glass. It shattered, but there was no penetration. Try that with any other truck! With that as a start, I'm struggling to get on with the rest of the video.
Yes, Elon Musk has made claims about the Tesla Cybertruck’s windshield being bulletproof. During the Cybertruck unveiling event in November 2019, Musk claimed that the vehicle’s windows were composed of a proprietary Tesla Armor Glass that was supposed to be very tough and shatterproof. Despite an incident during the presentation where the windows cracked when a metal ball was hurled at them, Musk continued to assert that the windows were indeed shatterproof. Later, Musk stated that the Cybertruck will also feature bulletproof windows when it finally rolls out to consumers. As usual Musk lied.
@mikesunderland9145 I basically agree with you, but I looked up shatter. The online dictionary describes it as breaking violently into many pieces. Since the window remained in one piece, although that piece was cracked (had fracture lines), it did not shatter. But anyway your point is well taken, it did protect the occupant as promised by the term "shatterproof".
@@patriciazoerner Nothing is shatterproof or bulletproof or waterproof - everything has limits. Everything is "resistant", just more or less resistant than something else. Use a big enough bullet, everything is penetrated. The point about the armor glass is that it is incredibly tough, and can withstand FAR higher impacts than ordinary safety glass, which is absolutely true. Elon told no lies.
The video is just Tesla hating. Don't bother.
Why is it so difficult for people to realize that if that steel ball had been thrown at any other vehicle window, it would have shattered the window into many hundreds of little pieces, but when thrown at the Cybertruck window, it didn't shatter the glass, it just cracked it, and the steel ball then bounced away from the vehicle instead of proceeding into the vehicle.
Musk certainly seemed surprised that the glass broke.
Why was a soft baseball used instead of a steel ball at the launch event?
@@mart0225 He was surprised because at rehearsal, the ball DID bounce off without cracking the glass. I'm still impressed that an ice ball hurled at the current Cybertruck window doesn't even crack the glass.
I think those of us that find that amusing do so because it was a claim Musk made that immediately failed. But also because for us it's fascinating that you think bulletproof windows is an important safety feature...? and a worthwhile feature to have in a vehicle that is not designed nor used for shuttling dignitaries around. When bulletproof windows are quite heavy and affect battery range...and then the first live demo performed at far less than slow bullet speeds results in immediate failure.
@@SurelyYewJest I do NOT think that bulletproof windows are an important safety feature. Not sure why you thought that I thought that. You obviously didn't understand the point I was making.
They made the mistake of taking a sledgehammer to the door first. That did something to the window glass.
They should've either done the window demonstration first or, if 2nd, on the other window.
I don't understand his complaint about debris getting in the crack between the tailgate and the bed. Is he saying that doesn't happen with other trucks? I've seen that happen with every truck I've ever used.
Yeah he described every truck he built for decades on the tailgate.
Good point, I want to say modern designs are starting to include a panel that covers the gap. I’m thinking like the R1T. It’s a trade off between tight (can trap things) and open (stuff falls through and big things can get stuck).
While John is open minded as always, Terry sounds like he almost hates himself for liking the vehicle and keeps on overblowing minor inconveniences out of proportions Or may be it was just his loyalty to his ex company that was making him do that. Eitherway he proved to the world that the CT is indeed a work truck. And his end remarks about those chordless tools and how even resistant people just shift their habits once they get to use the new thing, that was gold. But, Why John didn't drive it, I wanna see his reaction.Is there a separate video?
Yeah, it seems that most complaints are an exercise in picking nits
On the ford super duty the tailgate gap is also huge we often have tools that fall in the gap and sometimes you don’t notice and try to close the tailgate and it damages it
No, Elon never said the glass was bullet proof. Terry is misremembering.
Senile
Correct! Elon never said the "Glass" was "Bulletproof" although, they did say the Panels were, and they delivered on that promise, quite well!
Absolutely true… literally everyone gets this wrong
No, he said “Nuclear explosion proof glass”. Which was a lie
@@javadabaron81 That's funny!!!!
Net net, its good but different. Interesting that a GM truck guy drives a model Y
I'm also ex-GM. Been driving a Tesla since 2019 and ordered a Cybertruck🥰
The gap in the tailgate is the same with every truck he was in charge of building and GMC/Chevy trucks still have it!
On the regen braking, most Tesla drivers use the throttle to throttle regen. It has infinite regen settings once you know what you're doing.
Yeah but you do need to always be keeping your foot on the pedal, even when you’re “coasting”. I’ve gotten used to it to the point anything else would feel weird, and autopilot also goes a long way to making it a non-issue, but I can see where John is coming from.
The amount of regen available varies depending on how full the battery is and what the temperature is. It can be disconcerting when you expect to slow down when you release the throttle but all the car does is coast. There is a setting to have the friction brakes automatically apply when the amount of regen available is low.
No autopilot and FSD on CT yet. Spend an extra $20K on features you can’t have, yet.
True.
I haven’t driven a Tesla yet. I do drive a manual. I imagine regen feels like when I ride a gear down instead of braking. Without all the noise.
He didn't even realize in the parking lot he didn't need to go hand over hand to go lock to lock on the steering wheel. If you watch he's shuffling his hands out of habit.
Also the turn signal turns itself off after you complete your lane change or turn.
Nice interview. Thanks. What is important to note is just how many of the imperfections mentioned can and do get addressed by over the air updates. Whereas, in most other vehicles, you would have to live with them for the life of the vehicle.
I love how they criticized the long front windshield, then mentioned that GM itself, captained by this guy, built a similar vehicle in the Lumina van or whatever that P.O.S. was called. A GM executive has no cred when it comes to vehicle design and quality.
America should be proud of this innovative vehicle.Its not for everyone(Although the pre-orders are in the 2 million range?) but there is so much here that is unique both from a design and technological point of view. Kind of like jazz, Americas great contribution to the continuum of music in this world. I am not really a truck guy but an avid outdoorsman. This vehicle would be for someone like me I think!
Preorders mean very little! Sale numbers mean everything! The Cybertruck cannot do what my 3500HD does! No argument will change that!
@@gmv0553 Ever occurred to you it's not designed to be doing what your 3500 does? Are you also complaining about a 1500 not doing what your 3500 does?
@@gmv0553I picture you with a lifted truck with big spiny rims and low profile tires, and a latter to get in and out. Feeling like Mocho Man. Rolling coal with you dura-Maxy pad. Me man as long as my wife/man let’s me.
I'm not a truck lady but waiting for mine! Fell in love with the design when it was first introduced, hopefully they will be released into our state soon.
@@inciwillard991 Me, too!
Note to the Ex-GM executive: nearly every Tesla aficionado knows that in the CyberTruck unveiling, the shot put DIDN'T "go through the window" as the Ex-GM executive said. The shot put did (disappointingly) crack the glass but it DID bounce off the window after cracking the glass. It did not go through the window.
9:40 That's exactly what it does, you never go hand over hand due to the steer by wire allowing for a variable steering ratio.
Yeah he kept letting go of the steering wheel like he was going to have to make 2 and a half turns even though the Cyber Truck doesn't need that. I think his issue with the steering wheel shape is just an inability to adapt to a newer better way. I'm old too so I get that.
Deep inside he loves this vehicle and can't wait to take it apart and copy the tech. I bet he's careful though, so he can put it back together 😅
The other thing they didn’t seem to be aware of is that the rear steer hardware is supposedly capable of +-10° steering angles but is currently limited to only +-2°. As development continues, owners should expect more active rear counter-steer at low speeds which would further limit the driver’s tendency to want to go hands over hand on the steering wheel to turn the car.
People forget you can use voice commands by pushing a button to turn on and off so many things in a Tesla and you don't even have to take your hands off the wheel.
Funny the comments about the A pillar. I have an F350 and my A pillar totally obscures anything when I'm turning left. I have to move my head forwards, backwards and sideways to ensure no pedestrians are hidden there. My F350 doesn't crumple when it hits people either. Also dude said suspension is harsh over road cracks. He's apparently a truck guy who has never driven a super duty. lol. Seems like he's comparing a truck to a car, not a truck to other trucks.
That's why I beep when I'm on my scooter, im not upset I just want you to know I'm there
RE Wiper requires going thru menus - there is a wiper button on the steering wheel. 21:43
Thanks for mentioning this. This is the very first time I have seen the wiper button mentioned anywhere.
Isn't there a wiper button in the steering wheel now?
Yes. It was right under his right thumb.
Smart tradesmen working on job sites will quickly recover the cost of this truck in fuel and power generator savings. Not to mention a bulletproof body. No more worrying about little dings and metal exposing paint scrapes. I envision full length, horizontal roof racks, bolted into the body panels, but quickly removable for different use cases. You will quickly see aftermarket storage boxes that will square off the back, giving a ton of room for tools and stuff in the back. Like a panel van.
Buy on a lease and save more each month than your payments. Easiest business decision ever.
I'm for the depreciate 100% of cost first year. Then, mileage deduction on taxes will make the operating cost generate money if you're profitable.
I make a few thousand a year running economy cars in the trades for years.
@@sparksmcgee6641 “economy cars” are surely cost effective in some cases but aren’t going to provide 120 V and 240V to your worksite so that tool is not as useful in my scenario. If you provide a diesel generator, your employees must breathe carcinogens harkening back to the days of coal mines where owners didn’t have to pay for black lung. Each morning the EV faces the day with a full charge since it was plugged in overnight, ready for a day of work. Cab can be heated or cooled without polluting the worksite.
Longer mileages are vastly in EVs favor. You will see the cost effectiveness born out as best use cases become more commonplace as people do the math after overcoming the tidal waves of FUD the EV industry has undergone for a decade.
For extensive use, electric power will run a third of diesel with zero time spent filling up.
Secondarily, the truck is electric power backup in case your home power goes out overnight.
Sure, not all businesses will benefit but many will be extremely far ahead. I have worked the numbers for Amazon drivers, comparing a $3000 honda Civic to a Tesla Model 3 and apart from the down payment, the Tesla was cash ahead of the Honda every month by a lot. Cab drivers is an even more effective use case such that Toyota Prius are being replaced as the cheapest cabs by Model Y which is almost the best cab monetarily. Police car use cases are cash flow ahead after the greater initial cost; payback in lower energy cost, lower maintenance and increased safety.
Yes, the bullet-proof body ... which will come in handy if your selling ice cream in the getto ... Everyone knows, drug users love their ice cream ... Roll up your windows ... !
It does scratch. Stainless steel does scratch.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason of course stainless scratches but was thinking of paint scratches that happens in parking lot the whole time. Last time cost me over $1000 for paint scratches which for CT wouldn’t cost anything. Just add to the patina.
Really appreciate John and Autoline. Some of Terry's comments were insightful and some came across to me at least, like a bloke first reviewing the model T... "I find it difficult with this wheel thing and miss the reins...also the seat doesn't cup you like a saddle." One thing when I watch Eric O or Wes working on trucks in the snow states, holy crap they take a salt induced beating. I would have liked to hear Terry's thoughts about how this truck may hold up to that?
Exactly!!!
I think Autoline is trying to get an additional opinion to Munro.
I think that little rear view mirror is mostly going to be useful for watching the behavior of the kids in the back seat. Like Terry said, he looks at the side mirrors because he's been trained for 50 years to do so, but if the tonneau is closed (and the rear camera stays clean? enough) he'll learn to look at the screen for the area directly behind. I bet he'll also soon learn to leave his hands at 3 and 9, which will solve the squircle problem. About the huge wiper not staying straight up, I've been watching other reviewers too and this is the first truck that seems to do that. It drew my eye immediately. This one may need adjustment.
It's intentional, decreases drag. Maybe it's bigger on this one, I didn't check.
A bunch of family vehicles have "conversation mirrors", and I think that's a valid reason to keep the mirror in the CT.
Like vans don't exist, I have driven a van for work for years, the mirror is there for running a comb through your hair quick for lunch and to check to see if you got the bit of crap out of you eye cause you forgot your safety glasses for the hundredth time.
yeah.. only concern re rearview is the backup cam gets dirty/obscured very easily (as OutOfSpec motoring found), and unlike CT front cam, it doesn't have a squirt washer/wiper...
then you have NO rearview. Even my 3 backup cam gets rain splashed on it and obscured, I got a hydrophobic cover from 3rd party which works well.. maybe for CT too..
The Cybertruck on demo-day with the broken window WAS NOT a mock-up. They had been throwing the ball at the window all day in practice before the demo, and over time they micro-fractured the glass. Had they thrown that ball less than 5 times it would not have broken. And the ball DID NOT go through, it broke the surface, big difference.
BUHUHUHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
And what about the sledgehammer to the door as the first part of the demonstration?
The blinkers automatically turn off after the lane change or turn
It's in the settings. I recently noticed that in my Model Y and turned it on. It automatically cancels the signal as soon as the lane change is completed.
@@ymcpa73Yup.. but since CT doesn't have AutoPilot yet, might not be enabled there, yet? New Model3 w/o stalks has same feature
"I use this for ranching but I'm worried about fingerprints."
What?
huh? It's steer-by-wire, so you won't be doing hand over hand whether you're driving slow or fast. As we can watch you drive and doing a half turn. Perhaps what you are trying to say is for those accustomed to hand-over-hand steering, adapting will be hard.
Never gonna get honest answers from a former GM guy. It's that simple. Complained about the Squircle stearing wheel. 1st time I've heard someone not like it.
I can tell by him repeating negative comments, this guy still owns a lot of GM stock.
Agree, not that objective. An aged bloke feeling attacked on what he did do at GM. He must still be using a Nokia
He owns and drives a Model Y, so he probably ditchec the Nokia when you did. I was very impressed with Terry
@@JK4507 Are you sure? He really misses that stalk for the turn signal.
@@JK4507Tesla stans are hyper sensitive about any criticism. If you don't praise every aspect of a Tesla as the best ever, you must be a short seller or something.
Interesting review by former GM engineer! Even John McElroy was impressed!😊
Sounds like they weren’t getting the reviews from Munro and Assoc. that they wanted.
This is a truck for the next generation.
Not a dinosaur truck
Yes like 2045 !
@@renehunt4252 This is the future when the gas goes away!!!
@@bextar6365 They are delivering them today??? 250k yearly by next year and up from there!!!
A Pepsi truck...
This is a remarkably balanced and insightful perspective from two old school car industry folks who are excited about change. It’s fascinating to see them grapple in real time with disruptive user experience revolutions and uneven leaps forward (like: for farmers, on-site charging is a game changer, replacing the 500 gallon fuel tower; but long-haul towing is still a big problem).
These guys have been through the iPhone revolution and paid attention. They rarely slip up and do a “no one can write emails without physical buttons” without catching themselves or qualifying their statements. Despite this they occasionally lapse into the old ways of thinking, missing the big green field some of these early-stage changes open the gate to. It just goes to show how hard it is to grapple with disruption!
Kids growing up now, on the other hand, will have no such baggage.
Tony seba said the transition to ev will happen purely for economical reasons
Well, nothing is 100%, ... but, money will be probably the largest reason !
That was great... perfect guy to really put the Cybertruck to the test. Waiting for mine... first quarter 2025, I hope. Glad to have the early adopters paving the way. Thanks, John. SoCalFreddy
You can coast with full regen enabled. Just press the accelerator until you zero-out the power meter.
Yes but there's a learning curve to it though. Certainly not as intuitive as just going off throttle.
@@boostavtrue. But this is still worth using one pedal driving.
One pedal driving is one of my favorite Tesla features. But must admit I use FSD often to avoid foot fatigue from prolonged accelerator modulation.
@@boostav more intuitive - linear pedal response. Granular control. No switching pedals.
You are not coasting if you have to hold the accelerator. Coasting is nothing depressed.
Now that was an honest review, I was expecting all the doom and gloom that the opposition are usually full of but No!
It was a fair and just review and lets us viewers know that the CyberTruck is A1 after all.
Ride is also affected, by reports, on the truck's ride height. Low height setting is more stiff.
Logically!
The question is is it does it even matter if a truck buyer doesn't buy the truck because I'm not a truck buyer and I want a Tesla and that's the real key it's just not really a truck it's an everything vehicle
Does that mean it will canabalize Model Y sales?
@@Dularr maybe a little bit but I think the pie is so big that it'll be a few years before model y sales become cannibalized The new model z will probably cannibalize a little bit of the model 3 metal z is what I'm saving my money up for by the time it's out and has at least been on the road a few years My Chevy bolt should have at least 300,000 on it by then but I'll be ready for a new EV hatchback
@@Dularrit’s quite a bit more expensive. I can see it potentially stealing from X sales. X needs to focus on being a better six seater.
@@Dularrjeez, learn how to spell "cannibalise"!
@@gregbailey45 *cannibalize
U can auto cancel turn signals in the settings
@ 26:20 his comment is so true,I cant imagine not working without my Milwaukee Cordless Tools, no extension cords and Airlines to worry about, awaiting the next Caresoft update. TY John McElroy for bringing Caresoft back ,Autoline Rocks!❤
@8:45. I have to critique his criticism here. You can watch him as he turns the wheel to the left all the way to lock that he does not in fact need to take his hands off the wheel to go "hand over hand" in the tightest of turns. It's just that this is what he is used to doing when driving. With the steer by wire and the rear wheel steering at slow speeds you can go lock to lock without taking your hands off 10 and 3. You can see this as he goes to lock to the left.
You can see him do it again, unnecessarily lifting his hand off the wheel and moving his hand for the slightest wheel turn @13:15 when taking a right turn.
Excellent point! Thanks!
John . . . You mispoke.
The ball broke the window -
But it did not go through.
Anyone who owns a Tesla knows their car gets better through OTA software updates. The steering, the wiper, the ride, pretty much most things will be adjusted. Most people seem to forget that rear view mirrors have limited views due to rear seat headrests. The rear camera has high resolution with zero headrests obstacles blocking the view. This truck requires a remapping of drivers brain. We will see how the truck looks after a few years as it gets work done on construction sites, ranches and rural properties moving kids and trips to hardware stores. My M3 had summons. I would use it to automatically back out of a parking space, or come to me when leaving a store or restaurant. The CT will do this in the future.
This shift to cameras rule the car world is a concern for this writer. And two points of note, one, when it fails, and two, the most common, it gets dirty and unusable; the back up camera on this writers Niro works decently when its clean and NOT facing the sun. Even a small amount of dirty and forget the view, and it worse at night. Add to this this INSISTANCE, it seems, of ALL car makers to put the camera as low and as close to the road as possible, where its sure to be mucked over. The Niro has/had the camera under the rear wiper. In 2021, the moved it LOWER, where it can get dirty better, it seems.
On the steering wheel, lock to lock with the CT is not hand over hand. Seems like he would get that.
One of the better, down-to-earth reviews of the Cybertruck. Waiting for that deep dive review- Subscribed!
I remember that A-pillar. The Lamborghini Countach had the same problem.
And all the more modern Lambos too.
That guy has the most discreet hearing aid I've ever seen! It also seems to work really well.
5:50 the mirrors on my Ram 3500 block a lot more than a small town then. The reason that Tesla got rid of buttons and stocks is that they're planning on FSD coming soon and you won't need any of those things going forward.
It is all about cost savings. It is true that FSD sometime in the future minimizes the need, but cost savings today are the reason that they removed the physical controls.
Very cool. Lots of feedback.
I have working trucks that get dirty, but I'm worried about fingerprints???🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, wft was that.
Maybe they still think that's a cellphone and not a vehicle. 🤔
It happens to some old people. 🙄
Don't worry. Carry Windex .. !
I love watching automobile experts drive and review EVs that they know nothing about!
If Tesla made the middle of this thing twice as long, with twice the batteries, and gave the option to make it a tow truck, or box truck, RV. Man. Everyone else would go out of business overnight.
I'm waiting for my van ...I might be retired by then 😥
Putting in twice the batteries would raise the cost and dramatically reduce the cargo capacity, which is what happened to the electric Hummer. With a 123 kWh battery, the Cybertruck has a 2500 lb cargo capacity, but a 250 kWh battery would decrease the cargo capacity to around 1200 lbs, which makes the truck less useful.
@@amosbatto3051 It would increase the cargo capacity not decrease it. Why would it decrease it?!? It would be on an extended platform.
@@amosbatto3051 would reduce the weight capacity ..
It's a pick up not a truck. Go look at the semi, and all the other class B and C trucks on the road out there. Commercial trucks don't advertise to the public.
Intresting learning a new skill set, driving by wire, new steering wheel, no stalks, “seems odd” ; is that really surprising since you’ve been driving a different way for 50 years?
GREAT JOB John,thanks!
What suspension setting was selected for the test? If it's too firm, there is a comfort mode you can select on the screen.
Excellent interview. Great video, very informative.
Can’t wait to trade in my 2013 Model S for one of these in about five years when I can pick up one used for a good deal. Thought about getting a used Rivian still trying to make up my mind.
and lose the free charge
@@gmmo I know but 99% of my charging is done at home by my solar panels
My order number is over 800k. Can’t wait to get it. This guy is paid by GM and his Tesla dislike bias is over the top. It’s hilarious. GM can’t compete.
Thank you. I needed a Cybertruck review from outside the Tesla bubble, and this was it.
Almost all the criticisms were software manageable except that wiper and the gear whine. Software can't do anything about physical phenomenon like the wind noise from the wiper or the sharp angles. Makes me think this is more a local vehicle, since local vehicles rarely go at freeway speeds for very long. Everyone out there has already ascertained its not a hauler of trailers and won't be unless battery technology takes a quantum leap. His steering objections were quite obviously his muscle memory. He was constantly trying to hand over hand when you never need to with the lock to lock turns it comes with. Not having the quick lane change blink option is definitely annoying. Extended AP takes care of that, but then I don't think being in AP on other than highways makes any sense. CT would seem to be an apparently compromised vehicle for the moment. Will be interesting to see if Tesla takes these criticisms seriously.
Even the wiper could get an update to have a resting position of down.
@@gnoxycat Perhaps. I expect its at maximum travel for performance purposes since there is no recess behind the hood. They could adjust the motor position and change the stops, but not with software. Range is already poor. Best to adjust its vertical resting position.
Actually software could potentially knock the noise depending on the source. If it’s inverter whine resonance then yes, if it’s from gears then no.
@@gnoxycat Not happening, that would have a detrimental effect on the aerodynamics of the vehicle.
The blinker thing is already fixed. There is a setting to turn off blinker automatically. When the lane change is completed, teh blinker turns off. I have that option in my Model Y. I'm sure the cybertruck has it too. It's not a hauler of trailers for long distances. If you have to haul something locally or to the next town, it is fine.
The windshield wiper should be on the right side, because now the blade splashes water onto the windshield in the return blade movement causing the driver having to see through all that splashing, were the passenger has a clean wipe in both blade directions.
When you were driving on the road it looked like you went through my suburban nieghborhood. 😂😂
Still deciding on whether to go for a Foundation Series or wait longer for the regular dual motor. I'll never need to buy another vehicle (for myself) ever again. But the downside is the extra $20k. But I can always use the over 6000lb. tax break that has been used for Land Rovers and Hummers, and other huge pickups and SUVs. No manufacturer limit on that one and it's way more than $7500
I went with it because I was already wanting to buy FSD on it. It comes with lifetime connectivity which might only be a couple bucks but it's nice little bonus. All the cosmetic stuff is just whatever imo. Roughly comes out to a 5k premium if you do want those things, closer to 10k premium in mine. My buddies kid needs a car and mine is an old 2011 so good hand me down... Any excuse to justify it :D sadly I didn't double check the eta estimate before hitting yes so no clue if I'm getting it in March (that I saw on initial email) or December (rumors some folks were saying).
Enjoyed this review. Great job. Can't wait to see you review FSD and Auto pilot so we can get a solid report on its capabilities. Scooter
JOHN COULDN'T EVEN TURN IT ON! AND REFUSED TO READ THE MANUAL.
@@waynerussell6401NOBODY CAN TURN IT ON BECAUSE TESLA HAS NOT ENABLED IT!!!!!!!!!! WHY ARE WE YELLING?
That is not a ranch it's just a homestead.
Love the last few seconds of the drive. Well said.
The comments about the steering make no sense. As someone who drives a truck, the fact that you have to turn the wheel multiple turns to make turns in tight corners is a pain - the speed sensitive steering and the squircle seems like it would be far superior. Plus with a regular wheel, you have no idea how to tell where the tires are pointing - even if the wheel appears to be “straight”, you could be pointed left or right and if you don’t have an app on the display that shows the steering angle, you have to move to tell. Squircle only turns 170 degrees, so you always know where the tires are pointed. That’s so much better.
One of the best videos on the CyberTruck I've seen so far
Exactly! Awesome Cybertruck video. Great job autoline
I was the same on cordless power tools - had a NiCad drill in the early 90s and it left a lot to be desired. Fast forward to a few years ago and I decided to take the plunge on a LiIon impact driver after seeing many people on TH-cam using them and was blown away so now how have a bunch more cordless power and garden tools.
Gas and corded still have their places for applications requiring high power for extended durations, but it's so much more convenient not having to deal with as many small engines and power cords any more. E.g. my battery chainsaw always just works, even if it's been sitting in the shed for six months between uses.
If there's a truck in the future with a flat bed/tray top then I'd get one.
The most objective Cybertruck review I've watched despite his assertion that it was more subjective.
Can you give it a voice command to turn on the windshield wiper? How about the turn signals?
If I buy one, it won't be because "Terry likes it."
Love this vehicle!!! In a world full of boring trucks, boring people, boring food (most of rural America), this truck stands out!! Love it!!!
Put your order in, there are plenty who are cancelling.
@@henryhill3778 …..Already have! Love it!! 😎👍
Excellent video John.
A lot of negative is what I heard. Not sure why, when it's the first vehicle I'll ever own that doesn't get pocked in hail storms nor dinged by other car doors. Not to forget, it has the same life saving software that every Tesla has.
The brake explanation was truly political. Great non-answer! I'm going back to Munro videos.
Sandy is almost as biased as Elon!
Time stamp?
Munro is just a Tesla shill.
@@TroySavarySpoken like a man who has never driven a Tesla, let alone owned one.
@@patriciazoerner I don't have to own a Tesla to recognize a shill. The guy is a washed up hack who was ignored by everyone in the industry until he latched on to the Tesla cult for relevance. He thought a battery pack looked like "alien technology".
Great practical review. Thanks
Wtf are the scammers already doing in these comments ?
AI... Even the spam is more efficient than the trolls these days..
It’s auto generated I think they subscribe then post when a new video comes out.
Scaming!
The biggest thing is 3, 5, 10 years from now that same Truck will be way better than it is now because of OTA updates. My M3 and Model Y are way better now than they were when purchased years ago.
And by that time the body will be rust colored.
@@hwirtwirt4500 That was already disproven. What people were calling rust was easily wiped off.
@@ymcpa73 The pits and rust required a polishing wheel and compound to remove and it's not a permanent fix.
I’m surprised he didn’t let John drive it. Why?
$100k
John did get to drive the truck, but the video was focused on Terry and his feedback since he's such a hard-core truck guy.
@AutolineDetroit John, you and Terry can use voice commands to turn on the wipers, and many other things in all Teslas. The Model S and X can raise and lower the suspension by voice.
Amazing work
The interviewer doesn’t seem to be very experienced with regenerative braking. I’ve driven a Tesla for 5 years now and have never wanted to have a thumb switch that could disable it if I wanted to “coast”. All you have to do is select that degree of pedal press that results in neither acceleration or regenerative braking. It comes naturally and you don’t even think about it when driving a Tesla.
Besides, the way the drive train is instructed on Tesla’s it’s not possible to disengage the wheels from the motor. There are no clutches or gear shifters that could enable that. The wheels are driven directly through a reduction gear that is always engaged with the motor output shaft.
Great video and interesting how Terry mentioned the gap caused by the windshield blade. In an interview one of the Tesla engineers had mentioned they designed the wiper to have the wiper move to a slight angle while driving because it actually improved aero. Curious if that's what the wiper is doing (or if it is actually moving a bit 😆).
I love an honest open-minded conversation. Rare in a polarized world.
All that said, sounds like he’s getting cybertruck for his ranch. Great frank interview
The best part about the truck is that it is so affordable. Add up the purchase price, the insurance, and the repairs, everyone can buy one. You just need a government grant.
Tesla’s have pretty good voice commands. Like “cook my bacon” for the seat warmers.
I watched for 4 minutes; that was enough.
If GM had made this truck this guy would be drooling over all these features.
He's actually drooling over this vehicle, but keeping it chill to not offend GM. They obviously think the vehicle is significant, which is why they are testing and analyzing it, including a full tear down.
Also: GM is so big and bloated they could never produce this vehicle. GM is a conservative corporation, this vehicle design required forward thinking that GM just doesn't have.
Great video!
It's very interesting that a former high level GM engineer and current vehicle teardown specialist drives a Tesla Model Y.
Key phrase: “when you can charge on your farm…” many farm owners will have solar… basically, “free” electricity. Nothing beats not having to go to the gas station EVER AGAIN and getting free fuel. NOTHING. The word will spread like wildfire and there would be no going back. Some would opt to get the range extender for towing but many don’t tow long distances so won’t need it. Maybe keep an old trucks for a few more years for those long hauls… but will not use the gas/diesel trucks on daily basis.
Kinda cool to see you guys were driving around in Livonia. I recognized Joy road right away
Great review from not just teardown specialists, but "real ranch work" and ex-GM truck perspective. More options/choices for EV owners is great, and hope all the cyber-tech advances trickles down to other Tesla & other brand EVs... Some notes:
@20:48 re steering wheel controls, the new refresh Model3 and S/X have same "stalk-less" design, turn signal buttons on wheel, not ideal IMHO, prefer stalk always in same place..
but at least labelled buttons for other features now like wipers, headlights, backup camera, and voice commands...
the turn signals should have auto-cancel when you do lane changes, may be a setting/software update, so less need for the "half-press" 3 blinks (I prefer 5 anyway, 3 too short.)
@21:52 re wipers/button, on Y/others: you do NOT have to mess on touchscreen. If auto-wipers don't work well (still need improvement), just tap the button once for single wipe, but now the scroll wheel is active on that pop-up screen menu... just tap left or right to decrease/increase wiper speed, or use voice commands "set wiper speed 3". I rarely touch the screen for wipers... single presses yes if auto wipes not soon enough, mostly they work, sometimes I'll switch to manual speed.
@6:56 the auto-shifter and onscreen shifter seems to work very well, same as on new Model3... get the initial direction correct 99% of time, except perhaps 3-leg /J turns (update coming to improve)... that is less of a concern than turn signal stalks.
@8:23 the steering wheel is called "squirkle", it is indeed odd shape, agree should just keep it round, not sure why want to do that since unlike S/X, there is no binnacle screen in dash to view over wheel..
@22:54 re regen paddles, I never understood this odd desire to "coast" in an EV or adjust regen... you want regen! You control braking, and accel, by modulating the accel/throttle pedal, PERIOD. It is VERY well implemented, very fine control/sensitivity, great mapping for response... why fuss w/ different levels?!
If you are "power neutral", just modulate needed throttle w/ pedal to maintain your speed, done.
If my foot is tired (not really), I just use AutoPilot or dynamic cruise control, and hover my foot (actually MORE tiring than just modulating pressure.)
It's much better IMHO to have CONSISTENT levels of regen braking, so you are not surprised in a situation (I love the update while ago that seamlessly blends friction brakes as needed if regen is limited, by cold or too-full battery!)... everything is controlled by ONE foot, consistently, that is the point of one-pedal driving. Just get used to it, takes a few hours, done.
I hate "modes" and things that sometimes are saved, sometimes reset, have to change back, etc... keep it consistent!
agree re their concerns about the A pillars and backup cams poor visiblity. Other testers have noted the backup cam gets dirty/obstructed easily, and unlike the FRONT cam, it does NOT have a spray cleaner... even on my 3, rain drops will obscure the backup cam... I got a hydrophobic lens cover 3rd party, works well, but now I get some glare/lens flare at night/bright sun w/ the extra layer.
Just saw my first one yesterday, will be interesting to see how this goes.
Cool - thank you. Great video.