If you ever hear anyone defending their Ytber doing sponsors to scammers like Honey, using the excuse "Hurr durr but it pays bills", you know they're too far gone.
Unfortunately, if he did any affiliate links for anything else, honey would have stolen those profits if his fans used Honey. That’s how devious this scam is.
You don't even have to interact with Honey to get your commission stolen. If the person clicking on your affiliate link has ever installed Honey from someone else's youtube video or other source, it's going to overwrite your referral code, too.
That is one thing I have noticed. A lot of people are saying "I don't feel bad for these people losing money, since they should have done their research on Honey before sponsoring them," but most people who got their commissions swiped probably never sponsored or used them. There are also people saying, "I don't care if influencers lose money," which is already distasteful to me, but more people than just big influencers use these links and affiliate marketing mechanisms. Megalag does say this in the video, but he is obviously using influencers sponsored by Honey for his examples since they are the most poignant ones, but I think a lot of people got confused.
Exactly! Honey is potentially stealing a portion from pretty much anyone using affiliate links. It's dependant on if the person clicking the link has Honey installed, and is entirely outside the influencer's control.
The reason he said Honey also does extorsion is because if any business doesn't partern with them then they'll find cupon codes that just steal from the business!
The worst thing about Honey: they had to kneecap their product to remove its value! Coupon applying software is incredibly *possible* with webcrawling and community sharing. They just decided not to be the ones to invent it, not even in exchange of harvesting user data
What's even sadder is sometimes these YTbers have fans (cultists at this point) who will argue who "But they need to sponsor these scams to pay bills" without thinking any deeper. I've seen those in Papa Meat channel when he sponsored Better Help just last year.
tech guy didn't see this coming.foer NASA engineer didn't see this coming. but random Korean guy that plays FNAF does. really shows you the difference between knowledge and wisdom
1. Scam sponsors out of money they should be owed. 2. Design the UX to use customers as pawns to scam the sponsors. 3. Short change the customers to make even more money. 4. Coerce companies into screwing over customers. 5. Force those whondon't comply into paying for all of this. 6. Never disclose any of this.
At this point I'd be surprised if Honey didn't also put a bitcoin mining operation in your browser tab upon installing the extension, as well as saving your private information and forwarding it to every known spam list possible
The inconsistency part is a common practice that can be used to defend themselves in case of lawsuits. So yes, they're doing this knowing full well someone will eventually bring this to court. As for the last part, they're probably datamining codes which is why they're sometimes gonna have very large discount coupons even though it's supposed to be secret or specialized.
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Linus is having a lot, and I mean A LOT of situations like that in the last few months/years and somehow doesn't get backlash for it? Edit: also the new victim will 100% be competing companies that either refuse work with honey or are a rival for honeys business partners
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5:47 - "It's a free browser extension. How bad could it be?" My brother in The Emperor, there have been malicious browser extensions that look like free money pots since the late 1990s. This is just one of the most effective and evil ones that isn't LITERALLY classed as malware.
I don't even blame PayPal directly. Honey was like this before the acquisition, it's why PayPal saw the value in the first place to pay over a billion dollars for it. Turnkey moneymaker operation
@@Jaker788 very true, also there's another scam out there being tested right now called PIE i sh1t you not being created by the same people that sold Honey to paypal
While I love your videos from a consumer point of view, Can you tell me how you can say Honey is bad while doing essentially the same? You take someone else's work, and under any fair use laws, you fail to transform the content. In essence, you steal MegaLag's video and re-upload it. You siphon impressions and revenue from the original video. And since you watch it blind, you in fact don't only "take the minimum required work to make it your own," so you can't call it fair use. Honey steals from creators with the intention to cut them out of the revenue stream, and you do the same. You take someone else's work and care little for the work put in by the original creator. I don't demand stopping, but can you truly, with good conciseness, say Honey = Bad while doing that?
"Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses-such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research" He generally offers plenty of commentary and criticism in his reaction videos both of which can qualify as fair use. I'd agree that his reaction siphons away impressions if he didn't give credit to the original creator but he does. MegaLag is tagged in the title of the vid and links to the original video and MegaLag's channel are linked in the description. From what I've seen, reaction videos like this often can help bring in new viewers. I have literally never heard of MegaLag until I saw this reaction and now because Jack reacted to it, I now have several of MegaLag's videos queued up to watch and have shared this video about Honey to my socials where several people have watched the video and also shared it now.
@@fawnn1644 I don't argue legality, since it doesn't matter what is legal or not. Legality doesn't make it productive or less productive. You as an individual might be an upside, but answer me this. How much of the revenue and impressions that content creators gain from making their content should go to the middleman of reactors, in %. [User] - [Algorithm] - [Content they want to watch.] and [User] - [Algorithm] - [Reactor] - [Content they want to watch.]. How much do you think this new middleman should be getting?
Markiplier called it years ago lol
btw 28:20 Nice one XD
What’s funny too is he even said the “honey apocalypse” would happen in 2022. The year LTT figured out what was going on and cut honey.
@@TheCoopMan mans exposing hymself as a time-traveler
If you ever hear anyone defending their Ytber doing sponsors to scammers like Honey, using the excuse "Hurr durr but it pays bills", you know they're too far gone.
Unfortunately, if he did any affiliate links for anything else, honey would have stolen those profits if his fans used Honey. That’s how devious this scam is.
"From where is Honey getting the money?"
I, after zero research, thought they overcharged a tiny fraction of the money you saved. That would be a sustainable buisness model. Right?
@@jackys_handle nah they are stealing commision
@@Eden2Shields I know now
CHA! MAGANERA!!
I guess the fault lies with honey
You don't even have to interact with Honey to get your commission stolen. If the person clicking on your affiliate link has ever installed Honey from someone else's youtube video or other source, it's going to overwrite your referral code, too.
That is one thing I have noticed. A lot of people are saying "I don't feel bad for these people losing money, since they should have done their research on Honey before sponsoring them," but most people who got their commissions swiped probably never sponsored or used them.
There are also people saying, "I don't care if influencers lose money," which is already distasteful to me, but more people than just big influencers use these links and affiliate marketing mechanisms.
Megalag does say this in the video, but he is obviously using influencers sponsored by Honey for his examples since they are the most poignant ones, but I think a lot of people got confused.
Exactly! Honey is potentially stealing a portion from pretty much anyone using affiliate links. It's dependant on if the person clicking the link has Honey installed, and is entirely outside the influencer's control.
And once again: The only free cheese is in the mousetrap.
the amount of mice i seen get the cheese from the mousetrap without setting it off is quite high
The reason he said Honey also does extorsion is because if any business doesn't partern with them then they'll find cupon codes that just steal from the business!
25:40 bro found the problem and stumbled into the same one again! 😂
For some info the new addblock PIE is from many of the same people who made this.
The worst thing about Honey: they had to kneecap their product to remove its value!
Coupon applying software is incredibly *possible* with webcrawling and community sharing.
They just decided not to be the ones to invent it, not even in exchange of harvesting user data
What's even sadder is sometimes these YTbers have fans (cultists at this point) who will argue who "But they need to sponsor these scams to pay bills" without thinking any deeper. I've seen those in Papa Meat channel when he sponsored Better Help just last year.
And this is why I mainly ignore most sponsor segments and spend a lot of time researching every app or program I can download.
The Cyberpunk OST hits so hard
Well
Honey isn't so sweet afterall
it was a honey pot 😉
I always though it was scam, but i thought it was collecting data from you and selling it to advertisers or whoever else.
Almost certainly both. No reason for them to pass up the money.
@@ladeao1552This guy's making a part two to his video, so we will see.
It's probably also doing that.
What website, company, or add-on DOESN’T do that? Lol.
tech guy didn't see this coming.foer NASA engineer didn't see this coming. but random Korean guy that plays FNAF does. really shows you the difference between knowledge and wisdom
1. Scam sponsors out of money they should be owed.
2. Design the UX to use customers as pawns to scam the sponsors.
3. Short change the customers to make even more money.
4. Coerce companies into screwing over customers.
5. Force those whondon't comply into paying for all of this.
6. Never disclose any of this.
I wonder if Linus owns any shares of karma or maybe they founded it after seeing the honey jar😂
My guess is it was another service they found that does the same thing-- but Linus made sure _their_ affiliate links would be ok.
@MephiticMiasma that doesn't make sense why wouldn't he make it himself or own a share of it after seeing the bag ? Something fishy out here
NZXT has earned a perma-ban from me.
3:10 Gus Sorolla from Rooster Teeth, now permanent DM for his Dungeons and Dragons podcast
15:37 me singinng to the background music be like: a thing of beauty iknow .... what you have to say what you did to me I know
At this point I'd be surprised if Honey didn't also put a bitcoin mining operation in your browser tab upon installing the extension, as well as saving your private information and forwarding it to every known spam list possible
I've been using honey for 5 years 😭 can't have nothing these days
The inconsistency part is a common practice that can be used to defend themselves in case of lawsuits. So yes, they're doing this knowing full well someone will eventually bring this to court.
As for the last part, they're probably datamining codes which is why they're sometimes gonna have very large discount coupons even though it's supposed to be secret or specialized.
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Linus is having a lot, and I mean A LOT of situations like that in the last few months/years and somehow doesn't get backlash for it?
Edit: also the new victim will 100% be competing companies that either refuse work with honey or are a rival for honeys business partners
and same people just abandoned honey and started exact same shit with different name
how could winnie the pooh do this to us
this is the thing my sleezy bastard goblin side say: this is genius
and my human, decent side say: this disgusting
Me listening intently vibing to Never Fade Away in the background.
Scams are things alright.
We gettin out of the packs with this
The year of exposure
@@ArtwellI Exactly
Hoping you’ll be able to get back to Half life VR🥺
hmm... that kinda seems like theft tho. not scam but straight up theft.
Are you going to react to the new lythero video?
You went dupe us though right?
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You should be doing professional voice over work
5:47 - "It's a free browser extension. How bad could it be?"
My brother in The Emperor, there have been malicious browser extensions that look like free money pots since the late 1990s. This is just one of the most effective and evil ones that isn't LITERALLY classed as malware.
The only difference be Honey was less subtle than those "Hot Asian women on your area" ads.
Elon musk was ousted from PayPal back in September 2000 so you really shouldn't be blaming him... Fyi
I don't even blame PayPal directly. Honey was like this before the acquisition, it's why PayPal saw the value in the first place to pay over a billion dollars for it. Turnkey moneymaker operation
@@Jaker788 very true, also there's another scam out there being tested right now called PIE i sh1t you not being created by the same people that sold Honey to paypal
@@Jaker788true, but fuck those big company’s
Next thing it'll turn out Raid:shadow legends game doesn't exist too and is some kind of a scam, i'll won't even be surprised.
Wsg I am the first
Think so
MY BROTHER WHY ARE YOU USING OPERA GX!!! please educate yourself on their uhhh bad things
I'm aware of most of them. Trust me , I'm making use of it because of convenience. I have my safeguards.
@TheChillzoneX honestly i respect that
Wait someone explain the F12? Best friend why? I only used it to look at the website code and I say that loosely
While I love your videos from a consumer point of view, Can you tell me how you can say Honey is bad while doing essentially the same? You take someone else's work, and under any fair use laws, you fail to transform the content. In essence, you steal MegaLag's video and re-upload it. You siphon impressions and revenue from the original video. And since you watch it blind, you in fact don't only "take the minimum required work to make it your own," so you can't call it fair use. Honey steals from creators with the intention to cut them out of the revenue stream, and you do the same. You take someone else's work and care little for the work put in by the original creator. I don't demand stopping, but can you truly, with good conciseness, say Honey = Bad while doing that?
Are you stupid? React videos are completely kosher
"Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses-such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research"
He generally offers plenty of commentary and criticism in his reaction videos both of which can qualify as fair use. I'd agree that his reaction siphons away impressions if he didn't give credit to the original creator but he does. MegaLag is tagged in the title of the vid and links to the original video and MegaLag's channel are linked in the description. From what I've seen, reaction videos like this often can help bring in new viewers. I have literally never heard of MegaLag until I saw this reaction and now because Jack reacted to it, I now have several of MegaLag's videos queued up to watch and have shared this video about Honey to my socials where several people have watched the video and also shared it now.
@@fawnn1644 I don't argue legality, since it doesn't matter what is legal or not. Legality doesn't make it productive or less productive. You as an individual might be an upside, but answer me this. How much of the revenue and impressions that content creators gain from making their content should go to the middleman of reactors, in %. [User] - [Algorithm] - [Content they want to watch.] and [User] - [Algorithm] - [Reactor] - [Content they want to watch.]. How much do you think this new middleman should be getting?