Theraphosa stirmi pairing with never before seen footage
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2024
- The Theraphosa stirmi or commonly known as the Burgundy Goliath Bird Eater a large heavy bodied tropical tarantula from Guyana and Brazil, these tarantulas need to be bred in captivity to help ease the collection of wild specimens.
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Amazing groundbreaking footage and a smooth pairing as well 😮 the stirmi are so massive
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Love wounds and marks 🎶
I am so excited I went in at 1227 am here in the states and woke my wife to watch this. I am so impressed.
Thats awesome ❤️
Absolutely epic bit of footage for sure i noticed the spot on his emboli immediately and was like talking to the tablet like what the hell is that and of course i assume it was fluid but that makes a ton of sense i have to agree with u on that for sure i must say seeing them drum on the video ABSOLUTELY doesn't give it justice till u see it in person! I always very gently use my paint brush to very carefully rub their front pair of lelgs to say hi and let my presence be known so not to get a bolt and yesterday for the first time ever my gbb female apparently liked when i rubbed her leg so much she thought i was trying to rizz her up and started drumming at me i burst out laughing so hard it was absolutely the cutest thing ever and its so true that if we as keepers use the same taticts that they use with one another to communicate then we get better results and im soooo glad that i found ur videos before ever getting my first tarantulas bec it enabled me to have interactions with them that are just awesome i dont particularly want to handle my spiders in the way some people do i dont mind if they choose to come on me but id probably never intentionally pull one out to hold like i would say my bearded dragons and its super cool to be able to somewhat communicate with the tarantulas in that way obviously we or i have no idea what they are saying but the drumming is a true and tride statement from them and it was super cute lol and she was so sweet about ut
Its so cool to watch their behaviour
I can imagine that she runs at him and he's like ma lady
Wwwhoowho, it's Monday, thank you Dave and T❤🕷🦂🐛😊
Morning Dave & Camera lady loving the pairing video of the Goliath bird eater the Mrs has one but it’s still a jeuvenile
Fascinating stuff! When it comes to handling spiders you’re absolutely the tarantula whisperer! So incredible how you always keep them calm and relaxed. That’s what I really appreciate about your content compared to that of some others.
Thank you ❤️👍
WOW that was really something !!
She acts like their are other spiders everyday coming over 😂🤣😂
That was one of the smarter males I have seen on this channel.
Went right into the Karate Kid stance. Smart little guy.
Amazing shots of the embolus afterwards, usually they retract it quite quick which makes is difficult to spot but he just let it hang out there for all to see 👀. Very interesting on the theory of it having signs of the females epigastric furrow lining on the tip. Amazing footage as always guys, much respect to you both 👏👍
Those are some big spiders. Beautiful and lightning fast. That was some great camera work!
Thank you very much!
I've always said that the female attacks because of discomfort or pain if you will. This was a very informative video and I daresay, a first of a kind!
Long life as mature males. That’s awesome. It’s so sad and cringe when tarantula owners get upset when their T matures or “hooks out”. That’s like getting upset your parents reached 60.
Thanks for all your hard work. Struggle sleeping so like the early morning videos with a coffeee regularly .
My little boy watches one of your videos every night before bed and has named his Teddy the beastie room.
Thats so cute ❤️❤️❤️
Dear Mr. BEASTIE I start off every Monday morning with you and the kind camera lady. Nothing like starting your new day with spider sex. Living in Kansas I often think about cat sex. I live in the country with lots of barn cats
It is very painful for the queen because of the way the male is designed. Won't go into graphic detail but perhaps there is something similar on the embolie? So nice to start my day with you as long as you keep the spiders on your side of the pond. Great show.
Peace, Annie in Kansas.😊
Had to laugh, she was like 'CMON Do ITTTTTTT' 🤣🤣
Wow!!! Thank you for sharing! My body was tense and I was holding my breath!!! Lol
Thanks for another awesome video, Dave (and Camera Lady).
The Stermi's are the tarantulas that took my phobia from a moderate discomfort to shear disbelief that such a critter could possibly exist. And then to intense fascination of tarantulas as a whole.
12:01 theyre holding hands 🥹
That is so intense, maybe you can use multiple cameras next pairing? Get like several angles and really flip around from different perspectives, and get some new data like this again.
Love my stirmi, paired her last year. She spent half a day making an eggsac and without even taking a breath she spent the second half of the day eating it!
I also saw the white at the end of my males emboli
Oh my fucking God r u serious hahahahahahah I'm sorry to laugh but the way u said it was just hilarious bec I absolutely felt what u were feeling in that moment based soley on ur sentence
Great video, Dave! I agree with your theory about why some females attack males during pairings (i.e., the pain caused during the mating process). It makes an awful lot of sense to me!
Your pairing videos rule. The commentary is the best I've heard.
Wow, thank you!❤️🙏
Brilliant video guys beautiful spider thank you guys xxxx
I’ve felt the same for years as well. This was very interesting to see and kind of backs up our hypothesis. Fantastic footage Dave and camera lady ❤
Another amazing Sunday night video - here in the States. Look forward to your videos every week. Thanks so much for sharing. Great Spider!
I agree with you Dave. that would be the most logical presumption to have with the evidence that you have. that footage is a rare piece. Well done you to.
Thank you 🙏
Looking forward to some videos featuring "egg with legs"! Sack openings are always suspensful and mostrly fun. Are they viable, have they hatched etc. We just never know. Thanks Dave and Camera Lady!
Mind blown what a discovery you have filmed. Love your videos keep up the hard work.
Way to start my day, wake up to you two and a new vid !!! Your analogy makes a lot of sense, immediate and instinctual response to pain/aggression/stimuli. It’d be wonderful if your local scientific community would take a look at your footage and hypothesis.
That's 1 of the smoothest pairings I've ever seen what a great video as usual! X
Thank you! 😊
So fast. They’re impressive.
He's thinking about how do I want to go about doing my job
Ok, THAT was really cool. Groundbreaking footage Dave…I feel like I learn something with every video of yours I watch. That was incredible!
Awesome, thank you!❤️🙏
That was a great pairing. Fingers crossed. 😊
Well done! Good luck with the egg sac!
Hey uncle dave and camera lady!... hope ur both well!! That was absolutely freaking EPIC FOOTAGE! SERIOUS super beautiful the pair of them were both gorgeous I can not wait to get myself one of them they really are EPIC I think people really underestimate how beautiful they can be bec in their minds it's "JUST" a big brown spider
That stirmi is hungggg 😂
First! Aha!
Nice
Great footage and fingers crossed for a successful pairing thanx for sharing this with us Dave n Camera Lady ..
Good job Dave and Camera Lady! 🤞you get an egg sac lol
Great footage Dave . I have never seen or heard anything about that . Sometimes the females do look pretty angry though 😂
Awesome footage and interesting hypothesis, thank you, you know your spiders for sure. I agree it’s very possible because even well fed spiders in captivity still sometimes consume males.
I think your theory is bang on. I love that your vids are done with a zoological feel to them. The behaviour of all animals fascinates me. Always wanted to work with animals and never did. Too late now lol, follow your dreams kids.
Thank you 🙏
Absolutely fascinating Dave, it makes an awful lot of sense to me Dave in what you said and could be the very reason they do attack the males after pairing, they're a stunning species of spider 🕷 Dave and definitely on my wishlist, I'm hoping to purchase one this year when the weather conditions are right, anyway Dave another super job by yourself and camera 📷 lady Dave.
Hi Dave that was a fantastic pairing. She came at him fast, and really did a lot of drumming with her legs. He was very gentle with her, and got the job done, and parted in peace. I hope that she has a big egg sacK. Great filming camera lady. Cindy USA
Oh yes, a new video from my favorite 🕷channel ❤! Thank you dear Dave and our Sweet Camera Lady, have a wonderful new week, take care! P.s I think that the pairing is uncomfortable and painful for the female too and you really got this possibility or fact on the video of today confirmed 👋❤️👍
Its all very interesting 👍❤️
My partner is trying to breed blondi (1 success so far 😊) and we have noticed a similar behaviour its like the females are testing if the male is man enough. Interesting that stirmi do the same. Great vid as always Dave, Camera Lady , got everything crossed for you 🤞🤞🤞 😊
I was screaming at my screen like ummm wtf is on his emboli does he not see this wtf is that and of course I just immediately assumed it was fluid and well yeah nope! Poor girl I know what that feels like lmfao
That was amazing! I always thought it was "pain" or whatever a Tarantula feels that is like pain to them. Because the way they jerk down, it's like an automatic reaction, not a food reaction. I sent my Aphonopelma iodius (a Nevada tarantula, that lived in Reno, NV) MM to a breeder in Houston. Their first pairing didn't look super great, but there was that shock and auto reaction we saw here, without the flesh of course. Luckily my male was able to get away, and the breeder's female hasn't been receptive since, so, I think that reaction was a positive sign that the first pairing took. I hope so at least. I don't want half the sac, just like 3 or so slings. I don't need half a sac of A iodius, lol. Anyway, what an amazing video. Thanks Dave!
PS: at the beginning when we saw a portion of your hand, I thought it was because you had a paint brush ready to separate them, then you said you were just getting a photo. Lol. 😂
PSS: do you plan on coming out with more calendars? I know it's Feb, but I would still buy one. I tried to get in touch on FB Messenger, but I was too late, you'd already sold out.
We are designing a new one for next year 👍
Great to see the goliaths again. Always something special about these. Enjoy all your videos but these tarantulas are the true daddies. Very interesting video and seems that your hypothesis has some real merit! Very interesting
Thanks 👍
Terrific bit of footage there capturing that flesh on camera. It certainly seems a more realistic explanation as to why some females act the way they do.
As I'm still very new to this hobby I find all this very very interesting. Your videos are very inciteful.
Thank you 🙏
Thx for the video Dave. I m with you, I think they react with attack, because they feel the pain. That video is great to see such details. Greetings Chris
How fascinating! Loved watching this. This male is no where near as small upto the female as you see in some species, is that because she's a younger female?
I Taxidermied a female stirmi the other day and I could not believe the weight of these spiders, absolutely astonishing ❤
Yes they are one of the heaviest 👍
Hello great video information and pairing Dave
Heavyweights going at it, lovely😂
Awesome video Dave, interesting about the skin on the pedipaps. It is possible. Especially, as us women are very sensitive in that area. 😂x
Awesome video!! Very informative, thanks for sharing!! 😊
You are so welcome!
Very cool footage. I now have much more sympathy for the females who eat the males, haha. I love how gentle and patient you are with your spiders. Thanks for sharing, Dave!
Wish my wife was calm like that after imsamination, Karate Tim 🥋🙏😂.
Brilliant video, love these beasts :-)
Fabulous footage of these beautiful large spiders. I remember the first time I saw a T.Blondi ‘in the flesh’ (only ever seen a Stirmi on videos so far!) and I couldn’t believe my eyes at the size! I’m glad this pairing ended well, and fingers crossed you’ll get an egg sac! 🙂💜
Good luck❤
Amazing one of a kind video, when I first saw that at the end of his embolie I did Think it was liquid fluid but then, after looking at it again, I seen it was solid, and his embolie is very big and thick, I do agree with you about it being flash and painful for the female so any kind of pain could cause a bad reaction like her attacking the male. Great video thank you David and camera lady.❤️🕷️🕷️👀😳
Thank you! 🙏
WOW! I'm going to agree with your theory Dave, because in many cases it does look painful to the females. A smooth operator may well live to see another day. And Insect Politics, she may react with instinctual defence. Also, because they do cannibalize regularly- you can imagine that mating comes with risk anyway. But as you have shown here- there may well be a trigger response. Kudos on this footage Dave. Peace.
Thank you 🙏
Hello Dave and Camera Lady!😊. It is so lovely to see you. ❤️ What a fascinating video! I have a few thoughts on this. 🧐🤨 Bear with me, I will try to be coherent. There are other species that do not have the most comfortable of copulation regimes. Cats have a pretty uncomfortable breeding 🙀and dogs 🐩 as well to an extent. It does seem that the discomfort usually falls on the female. 😉And yet the drive to breed over comes all else. Interesting that. I wonder, with the spiders, if it is a combination of things. You have spoken of the kinds of tarantulas that have gentle pairings and than those that are more abrupt. Is there a difference in the mortality of the males with the different kinds of pairing? Does that make sense? I would think that the higher mortality might come from a more friendly pairing process. They could also need the nutrients as we have seen how much having babies can take out of a female. Just some general ideas. I think you may be on to something there Dave.
It sounds like you may be coming down with something. Please take care of yourselves. There are some wicked bugs out there right now. 😷🤧I am finally better but I still can’t talk!🥺 I think my husband would celebrate that’s but he can’t talk either!🤣🤣 I am off for the night. Thank you again for the food for thought. See y’all soon! 🤠😴
We only really see aggression with the more violent pairings
11:52 High five!
That's amazing and I think I agree with you about the females ending up eating their male if she's been hurt by him it would be a natural instinct for her to attack 🤔
Excellent video guys 😊👍🏻
😮 woooow
AMAZING!!!! Would make a lot of sense. I know that insemination is known to be painful for a lot of different animals in nature, it may not be any different for tarantulas!
What a great pairing Dave! Love those Stirmies beautiful huge spiders! Fingers crossed ❤😊
So cute. We always feel bad for the males in pairings but we should also feel bad for the females too! 😅 Theraphosas have the cutest little personalities and attitudes.
The grumpy females at this stage of pairing reminds me of female cats in the same position I think its domestic cats and wild cats never seems to be a pleasant process but babies are made and it happens again. Nature is a strange mistress 😊
With cats, it's because the male has barbs on his male parts...I'd squeal also...
ive noticed this at least one other time in another pairing video in your play list. its a bit of white flesh on the emboli.. ill go threw the list and comment if i can find it.
Hey Dave, here's my take on why females sometimes react pissed and times not: some years ago I read on a random facts page that male mites would just sting through the females' body approximately where the sperm belongs even though the females would have the according furrow, the males just wouldn't care. Since they also are arachnids that might apply on tarantulas as well. Look at the sharp bulbs of Chilobrachys species and consider how many times pairing doesn't end well for the males yet the females are fertilised. Maybe sometimes they "hit" it the right way and the females end in that "trance" state making an escape possible, maybe sometimes they don't yet sperm gets to where it belongs and the girls get angry.
That was extremely interesting. I love the stirmi.
Amazing! Love your knowledgeable content! 🕷
❤️❤️❤️thank you
Great video as always, and very interesting... makes a lot of sense. 🤔
Perhaps some Marvin Gaye and some lube required next time 😂.
Looking for a SAF Stirmi this year myself 😍
I love your videos! Never fail to keep me 100% glued to the screen!
Thank you guys ❤
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Wow! Dave, did you notice the male seemed to spurt a fluid? It was just after you were showing a close up of his emboli. I'm not sure I've seen that before either. Great video & congrats on catching the tissue on his emboli! Fascinating! My cat, Maizie Lou, enjoyed it as well! Lol
I like your ideas, Dave! Though I don't think it is completely as you say. Her need for the male diminishes after pairing, sort of how men can just roll over and sleep immediately after the act whereas girls want to cuddle. Yes, pain is going to be a factor, especially for the more temperamental species- but the chilobrachys work against your theory as they directly invite the male towards the burrow. There absolutely has to be some truth to the idea that a nutrition, a little extra snack is good- and it makes sense, because in some mammalian care there is some foraging that goes on whilst a parent stays behind. This has to be some way the spiders have worked out how to keep a pair without, well... together.
What I'm interested in hearing from you specifically (and as the specialist you are) is about the trance like state that these spiders get into. How strong is it? Could you pet the spider during it without a response (I'm not saying do that, but even a brush)? Perhaps a skill male can avoid imminent defeat by outwitting a female or bringing her to this kind of state where she is stunned, perhaps that works for people, too. I distinctly remember one of your arboreal getting munched, your female, by a male- there's so much more going on here than meets the eye.
What I can say is this, man, I'm glad I'm not a spider. Used to be so scared of them, but once you understand just how weak and squishy they are, and how vulnerable they are to the elements, birds, other spiders, ants et cetera. Those fangs don't look so strong when you take into account they have to reload and each bite is a judgement call. Cheers Dave.
They are very sensitive when in that trance state, we have a very high survival rate for our males around 97 % only the males that died did the female have a sharp insimination ?all the gental pairings they walk away 👍
I have a theory on the pairing behaviors:
The males in every breed have varying levels of brevity at introduction, but they all seem to understand that they need to be ready to get the heck out of Dodge, incase the female is more in the mood for lunch, than pairing.
The imboli, when extended, appear like miniature fangs, or hooks. While it is the nature of tarantula reproduction, that can't feel good for the female.
However, I think for the males, once they get to insertion, part of the reason they bend the female in half is because they are literally hooked into her, and they know they're caught and already trying to get away. While doing so, probably causes the potential tearing of the epigastric furrough of the female, and understandably, in most cases, causes her to attack.
...though, there was that video of yours, Dave, where the male was able to pair something like 6 or 8 times in a row, and the female just kept on with it.
For the theory that males getting eaten as a final meal for the female, in preparation for creating an egg sack and sealing themselves away during that process, I used to think was total bunk. But now I'm not so sure. There really may be something to that within some of the tarantula species.
We have around 97% survival of our males but our females still produce good sacs ?
Hello Dave, wouldn't it be cool if you could use a slow-motion camera to record the females super-fast leg taping. and to see how many times they tap in one burst if you know what I mean?
That would be cool 👍
is this video in the top 10 PROFF ??? what a find on his emboly in this video. amazing information for the video with all the help for others in the hobby. CAMERA LADY some amazing footage. after this video hopefully you are rewarded with a successful sack. many thanks guys and take care---brilliant😂
Thank you mate 👍
WOW Dave!!! That male is spectacular! This is a beautiful species. I really love these spiders. I hope you get a large, healthy clutch! Keep us updated on the babies!! BRAVO!!!❤️
Perfect pairing 😍
Just amazing to see and watch. But if it does hurt I can see why they attack after pairing.
Really great paring . Your theory about the white spot on the end of the emboli ,that it maybe flesh is quiet probable . At first i thought the white spot may have been excess sperm . Hope that your female Stirmi produces a large egg sack ,with lots of viable eggs .
Stirmi are definitely my favourite of the Theraphosa
Love your vids!
That was interesting
Wonderful footage! Great hypothesis, as well. You and Camera Lady are quite the pair. You do the hobby proud.
Thank you very much!❤️❤️❤️
Amazing footage never seen rhat before but the theory seems quite fitting foe how the females react to the makes afterwards if it's rough and they may cause damage or discomfort. I do miss my stirmi they are my fave theraphosa species mine turned out to be a mature male but at the time I tried to find a female for him it loan him out nobody wanted him but he lived a good 2 years after he matured and ate like a tank.
Great video, love the big spiders!
I find pairing videos fascinating. I always thought, and especially with this video the male isn’t pulling the female in, but the female is actually leaning into the emboli, trying to guide it so to speak; and for good reason, I’m assuming it’s sharp at the end. We have, in some cases, a very long sharp hard object being inserted blind into a tender fleshy object. I can only imagine that at the best of times mistakes are made, the female gets stabbed, and tempers flair. If you watch the first pairing again you can see his second pair of legs aren’t actually pulling her in. Watch very closely, his legs are keeping contact but they’re not pulling, if anything they’re putting minor pressure to indicate he’s trying to insert his emboli and to help on her end? Or possibly he’s actually pulling with his emboli, intermittently, while he’s attempting to insert?
Yes they pull with the pedipalps
@@daveslittlebeasties Thats amazing, I think you’re spot on about the females attacking the males because they have been injured by the insertion of the emboli. Really great footage, thank you!
Interesting about the flesh of the female on the pedipalps...it could be a reason why some males get ate. Some gals may be more sensitive and eat them as a reaction for sure. Good observation sir.
Dave that was Awesome! I have watched many vidoes and I believe you may have hit on something with the pairings and females being handled roughly. Was wondering if you'll be pairing the 6-7 yr old Chilibrahys Dark Earth Tiger again and how are the slings getting on from the large sac from last yr are doing??
We still have a few slings held back from her last egg sac 👍I have no plans to pair her again
She is up there in age, but she did a Marvelous job. Looking forward to seeing her slings grow up. Thank you Dave
The backing of is quite interesting