I'm gonna be charitable and say the Spaaeny's character doesn't have the money, or the usual avenues for buying big, expensive digital camera setups is gone. The U.S. dollar is in the dirt. She said she inherited those cameras from her dad, maybe she had film already. On top of this, not everything needs to be taken literally. Instead ask yourself WHY the director made the choice and what is it supposed to symbolize that the young idealistic newbie is using this antiquated and romantic medium while the jaded pro is using what is most pragmatic. Media literacy, people! The curtains are blue for a reason!
I too noticed the film photography camera and wondered about it until I kept seeing the photographs from the photographers featured as stills in the film. Having the younger photographer shoot b&w film is a trick so that the filmmaker can quickly establish who shot which of the stills; color for Lee and b&w for Jessie. They had just enough stuff in there to sell it to a non-photography audience so they could show how Jessie's photographs progressed through the movie. It's just a storytelling trick.
Back in the day we would drag all that crap with us. Including telephoto machines that where as big as A3 printers today. We'd set a camp in nearby hotel or somewhere safe and go from there. Or we would send undeveloped films to newspaper via bus / train / plane. But in a situation like in the movie, shooting for daily newspaper on a film is simply not plausible...
What I find funny is some of the most amazing and gripping war photos were shot on film and those photographers had no issues " fumbling " with film canisters. I can safely say that my F3HP has paid for my homes, cars and allowed me to retire at age 40. No fumbling involved. You are simply a hack. I can pick up your digital camera and take some nice photos.. you would be stuck trying to pick up my Nikon F and trying to get something resembling a photo.
I saw it, I liked it because it showed what everyone fears, bits and pieces of a civil war. It asks the question, do we really want one? I really did not care about the camera.
I've used Nikon FM2 back in the day, while being shot at. Would I do it today? Maybe, out of pure defiance. But I doubt that anyone would pay me for that extra effort 🤣
Your thought is true. Also, she shoots a Leica lens on a Sony body “for some reason”. 😂. The one part of the movie, I was also like, but why. Maybe in their effort to honor the profession so vigorously, they had to throw in some historically famous war shooting camera gear…leica lens, and the Nikon F. 🤷♂️
In a middle of a civil war she is paying $30 a roll for film😂. Imagine she got 30 rolls of film. What was she going to do when she ran out. After she developed her film scan is scanning her film then editing the film. Film camera was just a ploy to hook a younger generation with a modern impossible scenario.
I know she was using the FE2 because it's all she had, but I was if I was willingly bringing a film camera I would've gone with a Nikon 4-6 or a Canon EOS 3 / 1V
Hmmm… I wonder where she would be getting the film developed. Sending it off to a newspaper that still has a lab and darkroom? It’s not like having the capability to shoot digital and uploading it immediately would be important or anything.
@@michaelmaier7262 yeah they skipped the part where she put the film IN the development tank. I’d be interested to see how pulling the film out of the canister worked 😆
Drove me crazy! In fact she wouldn’t have just scolded her, but would have judged it such a monumentally stupid choice, she would never have even tried to mentor her in the first place. There’s still a weird celluloid cult among cinematographers (note Hoytema’s Oscar remarks) which I think Garland is actually making an inside joke about with this choice. He shot this on a Dji ronin prosumer camera and called it imax. He’s poking that wacky Luddite cult in the eye making an analogy about how stupid it is to shoot movies on film.
Interesting I didn’t think of it this way. Photography is the opposite. The vast majority of older photographers shot film and saw digital as a much easier alternative, so I feel like it’s younger people who admire film the most largely rather than the old guard. Any older photographers I’ve met that get a whiff of me shooting film are always baffled 🤣
I'm gonna be charitable and say the Spaaeny's character doesn't have the money, or the usual avenues for buying big, expensive digital camera setups is gone. The U.S. dollar is in the dirt. She said she inherited those cameras from her dad, maybe she had film already. On top of this, not everything needs to be taken literally. Instead ask yourself WHY the director made the choice and what is it supposed to symbolize that the young idealistic newbie is using this antiquated and romantic medium while the jaded pro is using what is most pragmatic. Media literacy, people! The curtains are blue for a reason!
I too noticed the film photography camera and wondered about it until I kept seeing the photographs from the photographers featured as stills in the film. Having the younger photographer shoot b&w film is a trick so that the filmmaker can quickly establish who shot which of the stills; color for Lee and b&w for Jessie. They had just enough stuff in there to sell it to a non-photography audience so they could show how Jessie's photographs progressed through the movie. It's just a storytelling trick.
Nothing wrong with a Nikon FE2... its called 'slow journalism'... and I have used Nikon FM2n's in a war zone.. x
Where would she even buy the film rolls let alone the chemistry for devoloping the film? this scenario doesn't look like amazon would still operate.
Back in the day we would drag all that crap with us. Including telephoto machines that where as big as A3 printers today. We'd set a camp in nearby hotel or somewhere safe and go from there. Or we would send undeveloped films to newspaper via bus / train / plane. But in a situation like in the movie, shooting for daily newspaper on a film is simply not plausible...
What I find funny is some of the most amazing and gripping war photos were shot on film and those photographers had no issues " fumbling " with film canisters. I can safely say that my F3HP has paid for my homes, cars and allowed me to retire at age 40. No fumbling involved. You are simply a hack. I can pick up your digital camera and take some nice photos.. you would be stuck trying to pick up my Nikon F and trying to get something resembling a photo.
??? I shoot mostly film on this channel
She shot on film so the conversation in the stadium could happen while she used her portable developing kit.
He wanted to tell a
movie about a war photographer, but new nobody would see it, so let’s call Civil War, during election year. GENIUS
She literally has two cameras to not change it during the battle
I saw it, I liked it because it showed what everyone fears, bits and pieces of a civil war. It asks the question, do we really want one? I really did not care about the camera.
I've used Nikon FM2 back in the day, while being shot at. Would I do it today? Maybe, out of pure defiance. But I doubt that anyone would pay me for that extra effort 🤣
The most unbelievable thing about civil war:
That "journalists" are brave, *seek the truth,* and still try to do their job ACCURATELY without bias?
What a disrespectful take. War photographers are a thing and they're much braver than you will ever be.
@@mateusvin It's amazing how both of you are right at the same time...
Your thought is true. Also, she shoots a Leica lens on a Sony body “for some reason”. 😂. The one part of the movie, I was also like, but why.
Maybe in their effort to honor the profession so vigorously, they had to throw in some historically famous war shooting camera gear…leica lens, and the Nikon F. 🤷♂️
Yeah maybe it was an Apocalypse Now reference or something 😂 but yeah not the most practical setups for sure
Perhaps there are shortages / rampant inflation due to the war and that’s all she gets to use
Maybe. Kirsten Dunst struggles to get WiFi in the beginning of the movie
In a middle of a civil war she is paying $30 a roll for film😂. Imagine she got 30 rolls of film. What was she going to do when she ran out. After she developed her film scan is scanning her film then editing the film. Film camera was just a ploy to hook a younger generation with a modern impossible scenario.
@@bngr_bngryou’re talking color Kodak. B&W stuff is much cheaper and it’s easier to develop on the go
@@doublenegative4realand she literally said those are her dad’s cameras (two of those, yes)
Yusss. I was hoping this is what was gonna be talked about when I clicked the video. Loved the movie, but that definitely stood out like a sore thumb.
I know she was using the FE2 because it's all she had, but I was if I was willingly bringing a film camera I would've gone with a Nikon 4-6 or a Canon EOS 3 / 1V
F* 4-6
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F5/with 50mmF1.4G. MA/with 35mmF2.0. + HP-5 Plus.
I put my stuff in a black filter, im so deep
Hmmm… I wonder where she would be getting the film developed. Sending it off to a newspaper that still has a lab and darkroom? It’s not like having the capability to shoot digital and uploading it immediately would be important or anything.
In the movie she develops herself on the go
@@doublenegative4real .........yeah.... that sounds realistic....
@@michaelmaier7262 yeah they skipped the part where she put the film IN the development tank. I’d be interested to see how pulling the film out of the canister worked 😆
@@doublenegative4real I've done it before, just need to work by feel in a black bag
@@doublenegative4real so she also carries around a dev tank and chemistry, got it.
Yeah, that was a bunch of BS. Why would you use film.
Classic niave chick movie this Spainie girl is making a career of this and now she's gonna do this again in alien Romulus uhg.
Drove me crazy! In fact she wouldn’t have just scolded her, but would have judged it such a monumentally stupid choice, she would never have even tried to mentor her in the first place. There’s still a weird celluloid cult among cinematographers (note Hoytema’s Oscar remarks) which I think Garland is actually making an inside joke about with this choice. He shot this on a Dji ronin prosumer camera and called it imax. He’s poking that wacky Luddite cult in the eye making an analogy about how stupid it is to shoot movies on film.
Interesting I didn’t think of it this way. Photography is the opposite. The vast majority of older photographers shot film and saw digital as a much easier alternative, so I feel like it’s younger people who admire film the most largely rather than the old guard. Any older photographers I’ve met that get a whiff of me shooting film are always baffled 🤣
It is crap, total crap.