03:40 Tbf Todd Phillips stated that he intended at first to make a thriller in the same style like King of comedy and Taxidriver, but in a more modern style.. The studio didn't greenlight it at first because gritty thrillers weren't big blockbusters and made no money. When he later pitched it is a Joker origin story he got the ok. Especially because comicbook movies were massive hits back in 2019. Thats why the movie itself is more a thriller than a comicbook movie.. Because it was never meant to be a comicbook movie.
100% - that's why I specifically mentioned the IP problem, it's from that exact anecdote, But this video was more scene comparisons - I didnt want to delve into that aspect of things too deeply :)
Tbh all of the greatest superhero movies are actually movies of other genres dressed in superhero coating. THE DARK KNIGHT is a neo noir crime drama, LOGAN is a revisionist western, SPIDERVERSE is a coming of age drama, SPIDERMAN 2 is a slice of life about mid life crisis and INFINITY WAR is a war film.
@@TheViolentPacifist999I might not agree with last one which IMO isn’t war film like what we see in other war films as full metal jacket,saving privet ryan or hacksaw ridge but an apocalyptic sci-fi with super-heros...tho we all can have our opinion I agree that super hero genre is actually mostly just mix of other genre in superhero costumes,thats why I liked last two movies of captain america...
I have to dissagree about your Emma Stone and Ryan Goslings duo dance. I find it charming. There is a charm to their "mess ups". They are not supposed to be the best. The vibe is stronger than the coreografy.
In an argument like that, yes, it just comes down to prefer. That's more of a subjective way of thinking. Objectively, their dancing is not perfect or near it. But I respect your opinion and many others share your view - hence the film done so well :)
@@MarcusFlemmings I get what you’re saying but at the same time weren’t we trying to find “good vs bad *scenes”?* If the dancing skills aren’t as important in that scene then it doesn’t bring down the scene in any way and therefore is not a worse scene, in comparison or not. I do musical theatre and I analyze it frequently, and in that scene they were simply playing with dynamics, the dance showed the characters personalities and how they bounced off of each other, and the actual abilities of the dancers were not nearly as important as their acting. And ofc this is all opinions
5:20 It is *not just* "what if Superman was evil" the Boys show (because the comics are another thing entirely and I'm happy for it) explores Superheroes as celebrities, where all they do is manufactured for the sake of money and power.
@@MarcusFlemmings thanks boss, I know Homie is basically bad superman on paper. But in the show he's basically what a celebrity groomed from birth devolves into with unchecked power.
This is exactly what I wanted, man. A whole spectrum of different style scenes, a journey that feels almost unrestricted, unpredictable, I love this format. It's been a while since I was actually waiting for a new episode of anything with excitement, and your videos are definitely giving me that. Sitting here, thinking when will the (example) highway scene from Matrix Reloaded come in, will you say something I don't know, will I agree or not. This channel didn't grow on me, it friggin' exploded like a nuke, and I can't wait to see more
MASSIVE MASSIVE love for this! Means alot :) Yeah, the Fights videos will continue on Sunday, people love them. But I also love ALL kinds of film - from 'Foreign' to obscure to mainstream, etc. So this new series, providing it does well, well be fun to do as well!
I joined your channel about 3 months ago and am continually impressed by it. I have always loved filmmaking and often got physical media with featurettes and commentaries. These gave great insights into the creation of scenes. I do watch other channels that break down movies, scenes and processes. This gives an insight into the outcome. Your make your videos accessible and very cosy to watch. Another stark difference between good and bad movies is how characters emote. Classically trained actors could inject vitreol with a whisper and a sneer. Many, but not all, modern actors have to scream and let the spit fly to convey that malice.
@@MarcusFlemmings I'm not normally a stream guy but I have dropped into a couple and have really enjoyed them. I mostly try and comment on videos though.
I don't know why this occurred to me but I would love to see some commentary comparing the opening scenes of zombie outbreak movies. Specifically the opening scenes of the Dawn of the Dead remake (2004) and 28 Weeks Later (2007). Both are roughly the same scenario - family living peacefully until suddenly all hell breaks loose and the main character is forced to run away. The camera pan of the neighborhood street in Dawn of the Dead is a shot that has stuck with me for a long time, but watching both scenes back, the 28 Weeks Later opener is definitely more dramatic and emotional.
The RDJ Sherlock fight scenes always bugged me as much as Ip Man. You can't throw punches at someone's head and land them on that part of the hand without either not putting any power into them or breaking your hand instantly. Source: I've had boxer's fractures on both hands from landing punches on the wrong part of my hand.
Man that irks me every time. Either you land a punch right, that's index and middle knuckles, or you break your entire hand and, depending on how bad you mess it up, your wrist. Throwing a punch is easy, what's hard is doing it right
@@pabloc8808 That's the other thing, it looks like they're kind of rolling their wrists as the punch lands, so like you said, they'd probably end up with broken hands and sprained wrists.
whats more engaging in a fictional medium; ip man beating 10 men to show his rage and grief at an unfair world, or ip man punching one guy in the face and breaking his fist and having to sit the movie out until he gets better ? a movie isnt whats 'realistic' its meant to tell a story
@@calamity326 If you're gonna go through the trouble of having an actor punch the shit out of another actor, at least make sure he throws the punch with correct form. I don't care if he beats up God Almighty long as he does it right
While King of Comedy and Taxi Driver are high bars, I would like some focus on some smaller movies and foreign movies. American movies tend to push towards action whereas foreign movies find the beauty in small moments such as Wings of Desire or Tokyo Story. American movies that do that like Parting Glances or Lost in Translation.
Kubrick didn't copy or was inspired by singing in the rain. Malcolm McDowell improvised the dance and started singing the song. Kubrick loved it and proceeded with the acquisition of the rights which wasn't cheap given the rather low budget he had at his disposal.
Interesting because I always understood that Kubrick was a meticulous planner who was not one to improvise on set, let alone let his actors do so. Unless I am mistaken. Source for the tidbit on McDowell?
@@nathanrugglesI have heard the same thing before but I don't recall where. But it is my understanding they'd done several takes (as Kubrick did) before the version we know was improvised & Kubrick liked it so much he went through some trouble to get the music rights. My recollection is that Kubrick didn't have a strong idea of what was missing but he had been disappointed with the original plan for the scene & ended up encouraging the actor to try something different if he wanted
You know, seeing RDJ play different characters like Sherlock etc. makes me much more comfortable with him being casted as Dr. Doom. It's going to be terrible if he plays an evil Tony Stark but if he brings the unique energy that he brings to other characters he's played it could definitely work.
La La Land _had_ trained dancers, though. The faces of the stars were added later in post. The "less than perfect dancing" was a stylistic choice, not an on set mess-up.
I just wanted to thank you for the videos you put out. I don't think that I will ever get into film making but you make each video so interesting that it becomes incredibly fun to learn about what makes a good and bad scene and to learn what tricks and techniques lie behind movies I have seen.
Unpopular opinion here: when I rewatched the BBC Sherlock years after it finished, I started to see a lot of holes in it. The first and most glaring is that no one, on earth, with any amount of sanity, would be the friend of this version of Holmes. He’s genuinely insufferable or childish a lot of the time. As for Moriarty from the BBC show, his intro gave us nothing to work with and just comes off as a “Ha! Gotcha! Bet you didn’t see that coming!” moment from the writers. Once he’s an actual character with agency he’s just kinda….chaotic and quirky for the sake of chaotic and quirky?
Yeah it's a common thing to say "this good actor was let down by bad writing" but I thought Cumberbatch was just unbearable in the role. He was given bad writing across the board and failed to elevate it to anything interesting. He's very capable of terrible acting, his very pallid and moist turn as Allan Turing for example, but Sherlock is stem to stern just devoid of anything workable and so he couldn't work it. Basil Rathbone still has it for me, even if his Watson was too much of a bumbling fool and foil too often.
I actually agree with you, despite the video - when he finally is revealed he is different from his introduction but is merely just a trickster, of sorts. However, I do like the introduction.
You should look into Suicide Kings as Christoper Walken unravels the mystery in the living room. It is gripping dialogue and tension at one of its finest.
I think Andrew Scott is a very underrated actor. Hes been phenomenal in every role ive seen him. I havent seen Ripley but ive not heard great things about it.
The Multiverse of Madness scene feels like the actors have to say their lines before they move onto their next action, the better scenes all feel sincere and the actors take more time to deliver their lines with intent and to convey some kind of emotion. That.....and the smartest guy in the universe being a dumbass with no provocation 😅😂
You reached way back on some of these. Every year I watch White Christmas with my family and the dancing of Danny Kaye and Vera-Ellen is quite good. I enjoy the Mission Impossible movies, but I'm not a fan of the silly stuff. With Simon Pegg's - Benji it's fine b/c that's sort of his thing, but TC slamming through that window on the train after jumping off the mountain, just at the right time to save the girl was too much for me. I have a thing where I pick out Perfect Scenes and one of my favorites is the docking scene from "Interstellar". The acting, the music, the tension that is conveyed is perfect to me. The scene on the ocean planet when they take off is quite good as well. I'm really enjoying your videos and different series. Keep'em coming.
Great shout with Interstellar! Love that scene as well. The Mission Impossible window scene - I forgive it, as it's comedic - bit of a deus ex machina, but done in a cheeky way!
@@MarcusFlemmings With regards to Mission Impossible, the first one (De Palma) one was and still is my favorite. The others since have their moments, but that first one is just so good. Brilliantly shot and lighted and acted.
13:52 La La Land definitely does a good job with the dance elements, but a particularly interesting interpretation of dance in cinema is found in Charlie Kaufman’s 2020 film “i’m thinking of ending things”. Towards the end there is a scene where we have the two titular characters practically subbed out mid scene for two other characters who are actually professional dancers in order to continue the scene. It’s captivating and those dancers tell the rest of the story from that scene in a way that two regular actors couldn’t have, or at least couldn’t have nearly as well.
Only thing that annoyed me about that train scene in Mission Impossible was how goofy it was. It reminded me of the Hulk landing on the bridge in Thor Ragnarok. It turned a serious moment into comedy. I got a bad scene for you. Star Trek Beyond, when Khan was captured and they ask his name. He bellows out "Kaaaahm" as if that's supposed to be a revelation or something lol. What made it worse was that it spoiled in the trailers so it lost all of its tension lol. Of course the best movie scene ever is the ending of Terminator 2 when we see the Terminator slowly going down to the pit and sticking out a thumbs up. You can't top that!
@@MarcusFlemmings yes, it was Into Darkness...i didn't feel like leaving the page because for some reason TH-cam likes to refresh the app on the phone every time you leave lol..oh.. another bad scene from 2 is how Kirk died, tried to copy from the original Star Trek, but was revived by some science goo lol...
I think the hardest thing about analyzing singular scenes is that the best moments in movies are informed by every other scene, before *and* after. To truly identify what makes certain scenes so good would be to analyze the whole film. Similarly that’s what makes bad scenes so bad, they typically have no heavy or important connection to many other moments in the film and that would require the same analysis
Could you explain what you mean in 2:14 about the camera consistently crossing the line? Consistently would mean more than once right? You mention one example where you said the camera was going from his left shoulder, to his right. However both shots are on Jokers left shoulder, one taken next to him on the couch and one from a studio camera.
180-degree rule: Invisible line between characters that the camera can not pass, unless for very good reasons. A good example on how to break it is, a character suddenly takes control in a argument, or a power shift. The invisible line is the eye contact between Joker and De Niro.
I'm still trying to decide if the Mission Impossible scene was bad because it was just plain bad, or because they hyped it up so much and it turned out to be kind of a nothing burger.
I actually think that Dr Strange scene was at least initially really cool. I like non bloody violent scenes. Reed Richards getting turned into a cheesestring was pretty grim
@@MarcusFlemmings thanks! And trust me, I’m no Marvel defender I’m sure the rest of the film is arse. But creative murders will always get a thumbs up from me lol
There's a really good "movie fight" on youtube of homelander versus omni-man. It's very brutal but it tells a really good story with the fight. Omni-man is terrifying not just because he is powerful, but because he is ancient, experienced, and iron-willed. If you get him angry, he can calmly obliterate you, even if you can hurt him while he does it. He fights with tactics and with total ruthlessness and self-control. He's an evil superman, but totally distinct. Great character.
The Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes movies are one of my favourites, I somehow love them. They are lively, witty and pure fun. I ultimately crave for a third one after all those years, the BBC adaption .... not so much.
Heat is an interesting example because Mann essentially made it twice. I know it's not mentioned here but great case study. Speaking of Mann you should compare Manhunter to Red Dragon. Also Richie was better when paired with Matthew Vaughn minus Swept Away of course. Just like Tarrintino with Avery.
I would say that Sherlock's introdution of Moriarty align's more with The Mentalist's introdution with the person who turns out to be Red John. I can well belive that RDJ's vanity insisted that he have a voiceover for the fight scenes so he could clarify how adept he was at fighting. Surprisingly shoddy dancing all the way through La La Land that you have to assume it was a stylistic choice. Confusingly, Ryan Gosling was at a dance school when he was young and you would have expected him to have retained some grace. Tom Cruise jumping off a cliff is going to survive so no danger, if it had been Simon Pegg jumping then you could have had a worry. Tom Cruise made fun of such ridiculous skydiving stunts at the beginning of Austin Power's Goldmember.
8:38 Strange: The movie needs the rush of bad vs.evil to attract/keep the audience, so it introduces evil as a demolishing ball if the good (Sherlock) ever wants to challenge Moriarty. The series has a buffer to envelope more conversations (character development) to get to the main event, sometimes using the card of introducing the main villain as a mere extra, just to reveal it at the end of the season. In conclusion, the movie uses a standoff before the fight, and in the series Moriarty has the home advantage to win the first encounter against an ever-confident Sherlock. Both are great nevertheless.
Interestingly, a quick search of TH-cam doesn't show any videos documenting the history of car chases in the movies. That might be an interesting subject to cover in a future video as this goes back to silent films (Keystone Cops and many others) through gangster movies of the '30's, film noir in the '50's and beyond to modern action films. A lot to cover, and each had its own distinct style.
@@MarcusFlemmings I've already watched all of your previous car chase videos and enjoyed your analysis. Check out the ending of the 1958 film noir movie "The Lineup", this has the most epic conclusion to a car chase I've ever seen. You could do an entire video series just on film noir car chases. Also check out "The Chase" from 1946.
If you end up going over car chase scenes in the future I highly highly highhhllyyy recommend the show “BARRY” episode 306 “710N” Sound effects are superb, the shots are masterclass, and the direction (directed by Bill Hader) is the best in the business and I will always compare every car/bike scene to this episode because it is the BEST!!!!!
Just started the video so some scenes might be in here already but I put forth: The original mad as hell speech from network- holy hell it’s good Loki’s death in infinity war- the tonal shift from the previous Thor and it was really the first time we see a main character lose plot armor and meet an undignified, almost meaningless end The final game of Russian roulette in the deer hunter (need I say more?) Al Pacino’s “gimme all you got” speech in heat A few good men- you can’t handle the truth scene
Some movies you should cover in various of your series’s, Whiplash ( never mind 😂 although it would be cool to see a more in depth look rather than a simple mention) Guy Richie’s the covenant, Reacher, Black Panther, the dark knight rises, suicide squad, Lord of War.
I know I watched Multiverse of Madness, but I have no memory of the scene you presented, nor do I remember Fantastic Four guy being in the movie. As a matter of fact, all I really remember is being one of Sam Raimi's most disappointing ventures. I choose to blame COVID restrictions. . . and Disney.
About the two versions of Moriarty, I'd say it's like classic Master and Jon Simm's Master: one is the typical arch-enemy of old stories, well-spoken, well-dressed, desiring "world domination, same old dream" (James Bond vs Dr No). The second is a force of chaos, cunning and unpredictable, a much more dangerous opponent forcing a grayer protagonist to change his tactics and eventually cross the line, breaking his own rules to defeat him.
@lindildeev5721 I think that comparison is great and it can also be used to illustrate why modern Moriarty doesn't work. Simm's master is given a reason, the sound of the drums, for why he's absolutely off his rocker. It's a central theme for the character. Whereas modern Moriarty is crazy because he's crazy... literally no reason or motivation. You could imagine that you're Simm's Master, with empathy for how traumatic a constant unexplainable drum beat implanted for life would be, but the audience has nothing to use to connect with Moriarty, so he's literally a force in service of the plot as opposed to a man driven to extreme ends to deal with his own trauma.
I liked La La Land until I saw Umbrellas of Cherbourg and Young Women of Rochefort, and I realized I was seeing a pale imitation of the real thing. I would like to see more foreign and "art" films in your scene comparisons, please.
If you want bad scenes you can take anything from modern era Fast and Furious xD For an example that scene with Torreto reaching crane by jumping into it, so it can hit a giant sea mine and push it into water. Or driving down the dam. Or crashing into satellite with a car. On Earth's orbit... Like I said - there is a lot :D
I apologize now for the yapping I’m going to do La La Land's dance sequence in the opening isn't diminished by being a one-take shot. In fact, it enhances the sense of realism and immersion, making the choreography feel more fluid and connected to the film’s dreamy Los Angeles setting. Comparing Gosling and Stone's dancing to legends like Gene Kelly or Moira Shearer feels misplaced-La La Land isn’t attempting to replicate those golden-age musicals but rather to evoke a contemporary, relatable narrative. Gosling and Stone’s imperfections actually add to the film's charm, portraying ordinary people, not Broadway-level performers. Furthermore, Ryan Gosling’s background as a dancer, dating back to his Mickey Mouse Club days, suggests that while he may not be Gene Kelly, he has enough skill to convincingly portray a character with depth. His dancing, along with Emma Stone’s, isn’t meant to reach the technical heights of classic musical stars, but that’s not the point-their imperfections make the film’s themes of ambition and love feel more grounded. To further address your critique, it’s worth mentioning Emma Stone's theater background, which began long before her success in film. In 2000, she starred as Otter in The Wind in the Willows at the Valley Youth Theatre in Phoenix, Arizona. While Stone may not have a dance-heavy background, her early stage experience demonstrates her commitment to performance. This theatrical foundation contributes to her ability to embody emotionally complex characters in La La Land. Her dancing might not rival classic stars, but it effectively serves the narrative and resonates with audiences today. Additionally, while Singin' in the Rain has cultural weight and A Clockwork Orange uses it in a subversive way, La La Land creates its own modern impact, just in a different way that resonates with today's audience. Cultural importance doesn’t need to be measured by historical comparisons or dancing alone but by how it connects emotionally with viewers now. Comparing La La Land to Singin' in the Rain or The Red Shoes misses the context. Those films are pillars of their respective eras, but La La Land pays tribute to them while carving out its own place in the contemporary cinematic landscape. Its emotional impact resonates with modern audiences and stands to gain cultural significance in the future. Sorry if I sound like a jerk.
2:46 Man. I'm glad they censored that F word. That would have made watching him blow a guy's brains out a second later really uncomfortable.
TH-cam is crazy nowadays lol
Also someone said also that in 4:51 and it wasn't censored lol
@@behelit1997 Crazy? We were crazy once
@@salomonhp1495if it happens in the earlier minutes of the video there's a larger chance it gets picked up
I thought it was because the scene was in the setting of a live show, so they’d censor the words in the context of the scene
Tbh the best thing about the joker is the violence in the movies is limited and abrupt when it finally does happen its truly brutal.
Not too much
He's gone from ultra specific types of film spectacle, to just "scenes", haha.
Fights still exist - every Sunday :)
I’m all for it! Let’s talk about all genres of film. Would love some horror movies thrown in the mix 💀
I'm in
Lol yeah, I think it helps stop confusion and this way he kinda pleases everyone.
Bro ACTUALLY fell off💀
03:40 Tbf Todd Phillips stated that he intended at first to make a thriller in the same style like King of comedy and Taxidriver, but in a more modern style..
The studio didn't greenlight it at first because gritty thrillers weren't big blockbusters and made no money.
When he later pitched it is a Joker origin story he got the ok.
Especially because comicbook movies were massive hits back in 2019.
Thats why the movie itself is more a thriller than a comicbook movie..
Because it was never meant to be a comicbook movie.
100% - that's why I specifically mentioned the IP problem, it's from that exact anecdote, But this video was more scene comparisons - I didnt want to delve into that aspect of things too deeply :)
Tbh all of the greatest superhero movies are actually movies of other genres dressed in superhero coating. THE DARK KNIGHT is a neo noir crime drama, LOGAN is a revisionist western, SPIDERVERSE is a coming of age drama, SPIDERMAN 2 is a slice of life about mid life crisis and INFINITY WAR is a war film.
@@MarcusFlemmings It's similar in multiple ways to You Were Never Really Here (2017).
@@TheViolentPacifist999I might not agree with last one which IMO isn’t war film like what we see in other war films as full metal jacket,saving privet ryan or hacksaw ridge but an apocalyptic sci-fi with super-heros...tho we all can have our opinion I agree that super hero genre is actually mostly just mix of other genre in superhero costumes,thats why I liked last two movies of captain america...
No thats not what happened at all.
I have to dissagree about your Emma Stone and Ryan Goslings duo dance. I find it charming. There is a charm to their "mess ups". They are not supposed to be the best. The vibe is stronger than the coreografy.
In an argument like that, yes, it just comes down to prefer. That's more of a subjective way of thinking. Objectively, their dancing is not perfect or near it. But I respect your opinion and many others share your view - hence the film done so well :)
@@MarcusFlemmings Goes to show different perspectives goes a long way. We all see it different. Good work! Keep it up!
@@alexberling7774 Totally agree! That's the beauty of it :) and thank you for the kind words!
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I get what you’re saying but at the same time weren’t we trying to find “good vs bad *scenes”?* If the dancing skills aren’t as important in that scene then it doesn’t bring down the scene in any way and therefore is not a worse scene, in comparison or not. I do musical theatre and I analyze it frequently, and in that scene they were simply playing with dynamics, the dance showed the characters personalities and how they bounced off of each other, and the actual abilities of the dancers were not nearly as important as their acting. And ofc this is all opinions
@@Ozloz Nice comment! I think we're saying the same thing though?
Your video is like a conversation. You jump between topics just like in a conversation at a party. This is great
So glad you noticed this! A few people thing it's not focused - but its all intentional :)
I like how in the Joker scene you censored "fucking" but not the murder.
5:20 It is *not just* "what if Superman was evil" the Boys show (because the comics are another thing entirely and I'm happy for it) explores Superheroes as celebrities, where all they do is manufactured for the sake of money and power.
Nice comment!
@@MarcusFlemmings thanks boss, I know Homie is basically bad superman on paper. But in the show he's basically what a celebrity groomed from birth devolves into with unchecked power.
I love The Boys, they did such a good job of taking the comics and making something enjoyable out of it
What?!
Comics were perfectly enjoyable you mudblood!
@@thehermionegrangerr What?!
Comics were perfectly enjoyable you mudblood!
I still think you’ve absolutely nailed the “Good vs Bad” format. It’s so flexible so you can apply it to so many different things!
Wait, are you that sole forspoken fan?
@@ChopPieDezz HEY, THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO OF US OKAY? 😤
This is exactly what I wanted, man. A whole spectrum of different style scenes, a journey that feels almost unrestricted, unpredictable, I love this format. It's been a while since I was actually waiting for a new episode of anything with excitement, and your videos are definitely giving me that. Sitting here, thinking when will the (example) highway scene from Matrix Reloaded come in, will you say something I don't know, will I agree or not. This channel didn't grow on me, it friggin' exploded like a nuke, and I can't wait to see more
MASSIVE MASSIVE love for this! Means alot :) Yeah, the Fights videos will continue on Sunday, people love them. But I also love ALL kinds of film - from 'Foreign' to obscure to mainstream, etc. So this new series, providing it does well, well be fun to do as well!
ryan gosling does have long history with dancing bruv
You’re doing good man. Nice, straight forward, analysis. Keep it up, branch out from the fights, we’re here for it.
I joined your channel about 3 months ago and am continually impressed by it. I have always loved filmmaking and often got physical media with featurettes and commentaries. These gave great insights into the creation of scenes. I do watch other channels that break down movies, scenes and processes. This gives an insight into the outcome. Your make your videos accessible and very cosy to watch.
Another stark difference between good and bad movies is how characters emote. Classically trained actors could inject vitreol with a whisper and a sneer. Many, but not all, modern actors have to scream and let the spit fly to convey that malice.
I know! Your name has come up frequently! Even in in the live streams, if I remember correctly? ;-)
@@MarcusFlemmings I'm not normally a stream guy but I have dropped into a couple and have really enjoyed them. I mostly try and comment on videos though.
I don't know why this occurred to me but I would love to see some commentary comparing the opening scenes of zombie outbreak movies. Specifically the opening scenes of the Dawn of the Dead remake (2004) and 28 Weeks Later (2007). Both are roughly the same scenario - family living peacefully until suddenly all hell breaks loose and the main character is forced to run away. The camera pan of the neighborhood street in Dawn of the Dead is a shot that has stuck with me for a long time, but watching both scenes back, the 28 Weeks Later opener is definitely more dramatic and emotional.
The RDJ Sherlock fight scenes always bugged me as much as Ip Man. You can't throw punches at someone's head and land them on that part of the hand without either not putting any power into them or breaking your hand instantly.
Source: I've had boxer's fractures on both hands from landing punches on the wrong part of my hand.
Love this!!
Man that irks me every time. Either you land a punch right, that's index and middle knuckles, or you break your entire hand and, depending on how bad you mess it up, your wrist. Throwing a punch is easy, what's hard is doing it right
@@pabloc8808 That's the other thing, it looks like they're kind of rolling their wrists as the punch lands, so like you said, they'd probably end up with broken hands and sprained wrists.
whats more engaging in a fictional medium; ip man beating 10 men to show his rage and grief at an unfair world, or ip man punching one guy in the face and breaking his fist and having to sit the movie out until he gets better ? a movie isnt whats 'realistic' its meant to tell a story
@@calamity326 If you're gonna go through the trouble of having an actor punch the shit out of another actor, at least make sure he throws the punch with correct form. I don't care if he beats up God Almighty long as he does it right
While King of Comedy and Taxi Driver are high bars, I would like some focus on some smaller movies and foreign movies. American movies tend to push towards action whereas foreign movies find the beauty in small moments such as Wings of Desire or Tokyo Story. American movies that do that like Parting Glances or Lost in Translation.
Kubrick didn't copy or was inspired by singing in the rain. Malcolm McDowell improvised the dance and started singing the song. Kubrick loved it and proceeded with the acquisition of the rights which wasn't cheap given the rather low budget he had at his disposal.
Gene Kelly was upset about it being in the movie not because of how it was used but for how he didn’t get any money from the rights
Love this!
Interesting because I always understood that Kubrick was a meticulous planner who was not one to improvise on set, let alone let his actors do so. Unless I am mistaken. Source for the tidbit on McDowell?
@@nathanrugglesI have heard the same thing before but I don't recall where. But it is my understanding they'd done several takes (as Kubrick did) before the version we know was improvised & Kubrick liked it so much he went through some trouble to get the music rights. My recollection is that Kubrick didn't have a strong idea of what was missing but he had been disappointed with the original plan for the scene & ended up encouraging the actor to try something different if he wanted
Good video. However I do feel the structure was a little confusing sometimes. But it was still a good vid. Good job
It's been great seeing your channel grow recently - well deserved. This is the series I watch while I have my morning coffee
Hahaha! So glad I could be part of your breakfast routine! And big love - stick around :)))
17:25 Sounds great! I am not so for fights unfortunately. Love the car stuff and this video was also great!
You know, seeing RDJ play different characters like Sherlock etc. makes me much more comfortable with him being casted as Dr. Doom. It's going to be terrible if he plays an evil Tony Stark but if he brings the unique energy that he brings to other characters he's played it could definitely work.
La La Land _had_ trained dancers, though. The faces of the stars were added later in post. The "less than perfect dancing" was a stylistic choice, not an on set mess-up.
I just wanted to thank you for the videos you put out. I don't think that I will ever get into film making but you make each video so interesting that it becomes incredibly fun to learn about what makes a good and bad scene and to learn what tricks and techniques lie behind movies I have seen.
I think some early to mid Game of Thrones deserves a scene or two
Or all of Breaking Bad
Unpopular opinion here: when I rewatched the BBC Sherlock years after it finished, I started to see a lot of holes in it. The first and most glaring is that no one, on earth, with any amount of sanity, would be the friend of this version of Holmes. He’s genuinely insufferable or childish a lot of the time. As for Moriarty from the BBC show, his intro gave us nothing to work with and just comes off as a “Ha! Gotcha! Bet you didn’t see that coming!” moment from the writers. Once he’s an actual character with agency he’s just kinda….chaotic and quirky for the sake of chaotic and quirky?
I rock heavy with BBC Sherlock but yeah, you’re right. I do like his faking Sherlock out with the key that can get you anywhere thing tho
Yeah it's a common thing to say "this good actor was let down by bad writing" but I thought Cumberbatch was just unbearable in the role. He was given bad writing across the board and failed to elevate it to anything interesting. He's very capable of terrible acting, his very pallid and moist turn as Allan Turing for example, but Sherlock is stem to stern just devoid of anything workable and so he couldn't work it. Basil Rathbone still has it for me, even if his Watson was too much of a bumbling fool and foil too often.
I actually agree with you, despite the video - when he finally is revealed he is different from his introduction but is merely just a trickster, of sorts. However, I do like the introduction.
Love this! I did enjoy the first few episodes of Sherlock - but it does wear thin after a whilst. However, I do like Benedict in the role.
The thing is that it works in the first Viewing. Watch Honest Movie Trailers and.you can ruin any movie you love. Just enjoy and dont think too much
These videos are excellent. You got me to subscribe.
This might be my favourite youtuber right now
Great vid man keep it up!
Gangs of london S01 E05 The house assault...What a masterpiece
Best and worst Masterminds !?
I loved this entry into your set of series you've been doing. Keep up the great work, always appreciate your analysis
Another excellent video, thanks you 👍🏻
LaLaLand definitely has its flaws but its camera work is topnotch.
Andrew Scott's performance in Sherlock was amazing
Love that Ben Stiller / Tom Cruise interview
Snatch is such a great movie. So much style it really stands out among many gangster crime movies. Very Quotable as well.
You should look into Suicide Kings as Christoper Walken unravels the mystery in the living room. It is gripping dialogue and tension at one of its finest.
I remember watching that film as a kid, it was post Pulp Fiction so got all the post-Fiction buzz! It was okay from what I remember :)
My favourite mission impossible film is the first one. It’s a beautifully shot film with Just the right amount of suspense and action.
I think Andrew Scott is a very underrated actor. Hes been phenomenal in every role ive seen him. I havent seen Ripley but ive not heard great things about it.
Guy ritchie is just the best, he is my favourite film maker in the world. He understands crime and mind games and stuff so well and it shows
The Multiverse of Madness scene feels like the actors have to say their lines before they move onto their next action, the better scenes all feel sincere and the actors take more time to deliver their lines with intent and to convey some kind of emotion. That.....and the smartest guy in the universe being a dumbass with no provocation 😅😂
You're on your grind man good job
BIG love!
I feel this is probably mentioned a lot but the rushing or dragging scene from whiplash is definitely up there as one of the greatest movie scenes
Not been mentioned yet, but I do love that scene!
You reached way back on some of these. Every year I watch White Christmas with my family and the dancing of Danny Kaye and Vera-Ellen is quite good. I enjoy the Mission Impossible movies, but I'm not a fan of the silly stuff. With Simon Pegg's - Benji it's fine b/c that's sort of his thing, but TC slamming through that window on the train after jumping off the mountain, just at the right time to save the girl was too much for me. I have a thing where I pick out Perfect Scenes and one of my favorites is the docking scene from "Interstellar". The acting, the music, the tension that is conveyed is perfect to me. The scene on the ocean planet when they take off is quite good as well. I'm really enjoying your videos and different series. Keep'em coming.
Great shout with Interstellar! Love that scene as well. The Mission Impossible window scene - I forgive it, as it's comedic - bit of a deus ex machina, but done in a cheeky way!
@@MarcusFlemmings With regards to Mission Impossible, the first one (De Palma) one was and still is my favorite. The others since have their moments, but that first one is just so good. Brilliantly shot and lighted and acted.
so glad ive discovered your channel man! best dialogue scenes would be dope yeah
13:52 La La Land definitely does a good job with the dance elements, but a particularly interesting interpretation of dance in cinema is found in Charlie Kaufman’s 2020 film “i’m thinking of ending things”. Towards the end there is a scene where we have the two titular characters practically subbed out mid scene for two other characters who are actually professional dancers in order to continue the scene. It’s captivating and those dancers tell the rest of the story from that scene in a way that two regular actors couldn’t have, or at least couldn’t have nearly as well.
Best chases on foot, 100% goes to Steven Seagal 🏆
HAHAHAHAHAH his running style is....hmmmm
Only thing that annoyed me about that train scene in Mission Impossible was how goofy it was. It reminded me of the Hulk landing on the bridge in Thor Ragnarok. It turned a serious moment into comedy. I got a bad scene for you. Star Trek Beyond, when Khan was captured and they ask his name. He bellows out "Kaaaahm" as if that's supposed to be a revelation or something lol. What made it worse was that it spoiled in the trailers so it lost all of its tension lol. Of course the best movie scene ever is the ending of Terminator 2 when we see the Terminator slowly going down to the pit and sticking out a thumbs up. You can't top that!
Do you mean Star Trek (2) ? I think Beyond was the really crap one with Sofia Boutella...That Terminator 2 scene is wow!
@@MarcusFlemmings yes, it was Into Darkness...i didn't feel like leaving the page because for some reason TH-cam likes to refresh the app on the phone every time you leave lol..oh.. another bad scene from 2 is how Kirk died, tried to copy from the original Star Trek, but was revived by some science goo lol...
What in the fuck are you talking about?
The reason we want more different stuff from you is because you preaching the gospel brother!!! Keep up the good work and chive on.
I think the hardest thing about analyzing singular scenes is that the best moments in movies are informed by every other scene, before *and* after. To truly identify what makes certain scenes so good would be to analyze the whole film. Similarly that’s what makes bad scenes so bad, they typically have no heavy or important connection to many other moments in the film and that would require the same analysis
Singing in the rain was Malcom McDowell's idea.
Saw the Joker. Saw that this was a new video from you. Instantly clicked!
We're not going to talk about the Gun Fu in Equilibrium?
Gun Kata*
One of the most brilliant stupid things I've ever seen
Gun fu and Gun Kata!
It's a brilliant scene.
it's a scene for sure
Bring it all. Were ready
I completely disagree with your talk about La La Land. The lovely night scene is one of the most gorgeous scenes in a modern movie in my opinion
For a dance scene you should check ou the start of Climax. My brain couldn't comprehend those dance moves
I made a video about Climax...incredible film and dance moves!
Stanley Kubrick, when directing Mission Impossible: "Tom, your free fall-scene was okay, but let's do it again."
ahahahahahahhaha!!!
interstellar docking scene is absolute masterpiece
Good stuff man,you've got yourself a like and a sub.
Could you explain what you mean in 2:14 about the camera consistently crossing the line? Consistently would mean more than once right? You mention one example where you said the camera was going from his left shoulder, to his right. However both shots are on Jokers left shoulder, one taken next to him on the couch and one from a studio camera.
180-degree rule: Invisible line between characters that the camera can not pass, unless for very good reasons. A good example on how to break it is, a character suddenly takes control in a argument, or a power shift. The invisible line is the eye contact between Joker and De Niro.
Said it better than I could have myself! Big love!
Love this question :) I should have explained - Seth has answered it.
I'm still trying to decide if the Mission Impossible scene was bad because it was just plain bad, or because they hyped it up so much and it turned out to be kind of a nothing burger.
HAHAHAHA! i love it!
For another beautiful scene, the first scene of inglorious bastard is just beautiful.
Well good thing I've put that in Vol 2 - th-cam.com/video/uJyW0pG-bws/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JetRV8x9Q_P8iMPQ
I actually think that Dr Strange scene was at least initially really cool. I like non bloody violent scenes. Reed Richards getting turned into a cheesestring was pretty grim
I like this comment! Love a fresh perspective!
@@MarcusFlemmings thanks! And trust me, I’m no Marvel defender I’m sure the rest of the film is arse. But creative murders will always get a thumbs up from me lol
i’m not a fan of the editing of this video but i hope you keep pursuing your passion!
ayeeeeee, we back again
There's a really good "movie fight" on youtube of homelander versus omni-man. It's very brutal but it tells a really good story with the fight. Omni-man is terrifying not just because he is powerful, but because he is ancient, experienced, and iron-willed. If you get him angry, he can calmly obliterate you, even if you can hurt him while he does it.
He fights with tactics and with total ruthlessness and self-control.
He's an evil superman, but totally distinct. Great character.
Love this comment!!!
Oh, hi Mark!
The Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes movies are one of my favourites, I somehow love them. They are lively, witty and pure fun. I ultimately crave for a third one after all those years, the BBC adaption .... not so much.
Thanks for putting Paul vs Feyd in there specifically for me 😂
Stayed for the fights video this Sunday! Might be a big gift in there for you!
@@MarcusFlemmings ooh! Exciting!
great video!
La la land slander!? For shame. It's ok, I'll forgive you as long as we keep getting more of this excellent content :)
Heat is an interesting example because Mann essentially made it twice. I know it's not mentioned here but great case study. Speaking of Mann you should compare Manhunter to Red Dragon. Also Richie was better when paired with Matthew Vaughn minus Swept Away of course. Just like Tarrintino with Avery.
Check out Heat here in this video :) - th-cam.com/video/xKOpIc7ZrZE/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgxQ9nf4oTaBWVP7CgZ4AaABAg
I would say that Sherlock's introdution of Moriarty align's more with The Mentalist's introdution with the person who turns out to be Red John. I can well belive that RDJ's vanity insisted that he have a voiceover for the fight scenes so he could clarify how adept he was at fighting. Surprisingly shoddy dancing all the way through La La Land that you have to assume it was a stylistic choice. Confusingly, Ryan Gosling was at a dance school when he was young and you would have expected him to have retained some grace. Tom Cruise jumping off a cliff is going to survive so no danger, if it had been Simon Pegg jumping then you could have had a worry. Tom Cruise made fun of such ridiculous skydiving stunts at the beginning of Austin Power's Goldmember.
8:38 Strange:
The movie needs the rush of bad vs.evil to attract/keep the audience, so it introduces evil as a demolishing ball if the good (Sherlock) ever wants to challenge Moriarty.
The series has a buffer to envelope more conversations (character development) to get to the main event, sometimes using the card of introducing the main villain as a mere extra, just to reveal it at the end of the season.
In conclusion, the movie uses a standoff before the fight, and in the series Moriarty has the home advantage to win the first encounter against an ever-confident Sherlock. Both are great nevertheless.
Interestingly, a quick search of TH-cam doesn't show any videos documenting the history of car chases in the movies. That might be an interesting subject to cover in a future video as this goes back to silent films (Keystone Cops and many others) through gangster movies of the '30's, film noir in the '50's and beyond to modern action films. A lot to cover, and each had its own distinct style.
I've got a whole series called BAD MOVIE CAR CHASES vs BAD MOVIE CAR CHASES :) latest volume was out 2 weeks ago :) check it out!
@@MarcusFlemmings I've already watched all of your previous car chase videos and enjoyed your analysis. Check out the ending of the 1958 film noir movie "The Lineup", this has the most epic conclusion to a car chase I've ever seen. You could do an entire video series just on film noir car chases. Also check out "The Chase" from 1946.
cant wait to see the heat scene with de Niro and al pachino
If you end up going over car chase scenes in the future I highly highly highhhllyyy recommend the show “BARRY” episode 306 “710N”
Sound effects are superb, the shots are masterclass, and the direction (directed by Bill Hader) is the best in the business and I will always compare every car/bike scene to this episode because it is the BEST!!!!!
Just started the video so some scenes might be in here already but I put forth:
The original mad as hell speech from network- holy hell it’s good
Loki’s death in infinity war- the tonal shift from the previous Thor and it was really the first time we see a main character lose plot armor and meet an undignified, almost meaningless end
The final game of Russian roulette in the deer hunter (need I say more?)
Al Pacino’s “gimme all you got” speech in heat
A few good men- you can’t handle the truth scene
In the Anime genre, the last minutes of the episode 10 from Frieren, portraying Frieren vs Aura - that's surely a great scene.
Its so funny that he pauses the joker scene and reveals a stunt double in roberts spot
Some movies you should cover in various of your series’s, Whiplash ( never mind 😂 although it would be cool to see a more in depth look rather than a simple mention) Guy Richie’s the covenant, Reacher, Black Panther, the dark knight rises, suicide squad, Lord of War.
you should add cinematic shots to this series
w video i love it
ben stiller and tom cruise will never not get a smile out of me
I think the pool room scene from Carlito's Way is worth a mention.
What a scene!!
Pretty much any serious scene from Barry, some excellent filmmaking.
Juxtaposing Emma Stone with Cyd Charisse was just cruel.
I know....but...I mean....
RRR has multiple scenes deserving a spotlight , based on how much and how joyfully they just go for it
Great analysis your channel evolution is amazing please make video about rrr it's action epic
I know I watched Multiverse of Madness, but I have no memory of the scene you presented, nor do I remember Fantastic Four guy being in the movie. As a matter of fact, all I really remember is being one of Sam Raimi's most disappointing ventures. I choose to blame COVID restrictions. . . and Disney.
About the two versions of Moriarty, I'd say it's like classic Master and Jon Simm's Master: one is the typical arch-enemy of old stories, well-spoken, well-dressed, desiring "world domination, same old dream" (James Bond vs Dr No). The second is a force of chaos, cunning and unpredictable, a much more dangerous opponent forcing a grayer protagonist to change his tactics and eventually cross the line, breaking his own rules to defeat him.
@lindildeev5721 I think that comparison is great and it can also be used to illustrate why modern Moriarty doesn't work. Simm's master is given a reason, the sound of the drums, for why he's absolutely off his rocker. It's a central theme for the character. Whereas modern Moriarty is crazy because he's crazy... literally no reason or motivation. You could imagine that you're Simm's Master, with empathy for how traumatic a constant unexplainable drum beat implanted for life would be, but the audience has nothing to use to connect with Moriarty, so he's literally a force in service of the plot as opposed to a man driven to extreme ends to deal with his own trauma.
Hey I just discover your channel great work ! Have you review the fight scene in Only God Forgive ? one of my favorite so far ; )
You should do bad movies with good scenes I mean I know it’s technically the same thing but still not a bad idea
comedy: hangover, flying high, life aquatica
8:30 Jared Harris' Moriarty is way more menacing and more elegant, so to speak.
naruto: kakashi vs obito!! best anime fight scene of all time!
Oh damn. I’ve gotta give this “the boys” show a go
You got the Studiobinder editing here
Ermmmm, I'll take that as a compliment!
@@MarcusFlemmings that's the goal of my comment
@@tristan_840 😍😍😍
I liked La La Land until I saw Umbrellas of Cherbourg and Young Women of Rochefort, and I realized I was seeing a pale imitation of the real thing. I would like to see more foreign and "art" films in your scene comparisons, please.
If you want bad scenes you can take anything from modern era Fast and Furious xD
For an example that scene with Torreto reaching crane by jumping into it, so it can hit a giant sea mine and push it into water. Or driving down the dam. Or crashing into satellite with a car. On Earth's orbit...
Like I said - there is a lot :D
To go from director the hangover films to joker is crazy
Yeah. He should stick to comedies.
That La La Land take is crazy
You think? How comes?
I apologize now for the yapping I’m going to do
La La Land's dance sequence in the opening isn't diminished by being a one-take shot. In fact, it enhances the sense of realism and immersion, making the choreography feel more fluid and connected to the film’s dreamy Los Angeles setting. Comparing Gosling and Stone's dancing to legends like Gene Kelly or Moira Shearer feels misplaced-La La Land isn’t attempting to replicate those golden-age musicals but rather to evoke a contemporary, relatable narrative. Gosling and Stone’s imperfections actually add to the film's charm, portraying ordinary people, not Broadway-level performers.
Furthermore, Ryan Gosling’s background as a dancer, dating back to his Mickey Mouse Club days, suggests that while he may not be Gene Kelly, he has enough skill to convincingly portray a character with depth. His dancing, along with Emma Stone’s, isn’t meant to reach the technical heights of classic musical stars, but that’s not the point-their imperfections make the film’s themes of ambition and love feel more grounded.
To further address your critique, it’s worth mentioning Emma Stone's theater background, which began long before her success in film. In 2000, she starred as Otter in The Wind in the Willows at the Valley Youth Theatre in Phoenix, Arizona. While Stone may not have a dance-heavy background, her early stage experience demonstrates her commitment to performance. This theatrical foundation contributes to her ability to embody emotionally complex characters in La La Land. Her dancing might not rival classic stars, but it effectively serves the narrative and resonates with audiences today.
Additionally, while Singin' in the Rain has cultural weight and A Clockwork Orange uses it in a subversive way, La La Land creates its own modern impact, just in a different way that resonates with today's audience. Cultural importance doesn’t need to be measured by historical comparisons or dancing alone but by how it connects emotionally with viewers now.
Comparing La La Land to Singin' in the Rain or The Red Shoes misses the context. Those films are pillars of their respective eras, but La La Land pays tribute to them while carving out its own place in the contemporary cinematic landscape. Its emotional impact resonates with modern audiences and stands to gain cultural significance in the future.
Sorry if I sound like a jerk.