They've had that flaw since the 1990s, when the live-action 101 DALMATIANS was a huge hit. That was the "franchise original sin," and in a number of ways the beginning of the end. But even before then, Disney had creativity problems. Their styles and gimmicks were pretty formulaic almost from the beginning, and as early as the '50s they were already recycling their animation techniques instead of trying to make each cartoon look unique (if you compare CINDERELLA, THE SWORD AND THE STONE, and the 1957 cartoon "The Truth About Mother Goose," you'll see some blatant overlap). The truth is, a lot of the content from the past is not quite as good as we remember it, and it's considered "classic" both because of the nostalgia effect and because much of what comes after it is even worse.
@@splat-trainproductions Say what? Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place, That's so Raven and so on were so much better than most of the cartoons. Also it was the reason why Disney channel even became popular in the first place. Same thing with Nickelodeon.
@@Simbala-bq5vy 1.) I was mainly referring to It’s A Laugh Productions sitcoms that were actually made by Disney, That’s So Raven wasn’t made by It’s A Laugh Productions, so it doesn’t count. 2.) The reason why the Nickelodeon sitcoms (Specifically All That!, The Amanda Show, Drake and Josh, and the first few seasons of iCarly) were good was because they had good writing and were the most part grounded in realism. You don’t see any of them having things like magic, super powers, or any other supernatural abilities that would require digital effects that make you question why is it even a sitcom if the live audience can’t even see the digital effects in front of their eyes on the set-Oh wait, that’s right: The audience that we hear on these Disney sitcoms are not even real. Are you starting to see the problem? Not to mention, I don’t think a lot of people look back at the Nick sitcoms with fond memories due to Dan Schneider being a creep. 3.) Just because it’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s good. Frozen is a big example of this, along with Skibidi Toilet, Among Us, Lunchly, and any meme used by SMG4 or any dated things like clothes, movies, shows, and food ideas that aged like sour milk and rotten eggs. 4.) Yes, not all of the Saturday morning cartoons were good(I still shudder when I think of Pickle and Peanut.), but I can think of more good cartoons than good It’s A Laugh Productions sitcoms: DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, Tailspin, Timon & Pumba, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces of Evil, Phineas and Ferb, both 101 Dalmatians shows, etc. The only good It’s A Laugh Productions show that I like is Zach & Cody. That’s it. Sorry I’m not a Wizard’s of Waverly Place guy. 5.) The Walt Disney company was well known for its cartoon movies and short cartoons more than any of their live action movies prior to the 21st century, so why is Disney Channel more well known for its live action sitcoms than any of their animated shows? 6.) Hannah Montana. Hannah liver fluking Top 10 Radio Disney completely dated product of the time Montana. I don’t even know why people even defend this show. This was the one that ruined the whole Walt Disney company in my eyes. This along with the shows that came after all use the same story about a normal family, “but they have a secret!” trope. Hannah Montana is also a bad influence. Don’t believe me? Look what happened to Miley Cyrus after Hannah Montana.
@@splat-trainproductions You're so dead wrong. The sitcoms were the reason why disney channel even was popular. The Disney channel sitcoms felt more real because of they're characters. Mileys struggling because of her double life as Hannah Montana felt real and we could feel how much she's struggling. Alex Russo and Chad Dylan cooper are like one of the best characters because they both started as jerks but later on developed and became slit more nicer. And what do you mean me Nickelodeon has the better writing? Victorious had a awful writing, the characters weren't deep or were one dimensional. iCarly? Seddie was a mess and is one of the worst ships of all time. This whole love triangle on iCarly was a damn mess. Zoey 101? Zoey brooks is like one of the worst main characters in all of disnick. And no the humour was funny. That's so Raven is so hilarious, so was Wizards of Waverly place, Good luck Charlie, Suite life of Zack and Cody, Jessie and so on. Also you didn't even mentioned It's a laugh production so blame yourself. And yes a double life as a rockstar and a family full of wizards and seeing through is unrealistic so? Talking animals, fairytale creatures, singing out of nowhere, indestructible beings, huge monsters are also unrealistic. But what isn't unrealistic is the dynamic. Good luck Charlie has like the best family dynamic out of every disnick sitcom. What was the family dynamic in Nickelodeon? Drake and Josh's parents always blaming the boys and always protecting Megan? Carlys dad never being there, Freddie's mother being a control freak and embarrassing and Sams mother being straight up abusive? And Tori and Tina's parents that give a fuck about they're daughters and her mother cheating on her husband is better and more realistic? And the love stories? Forget it! Disney channel has Sonny and Chad, Alex and Mason, Miley and Jesse, Lilly and Oliver, PJ and Skylar, Justin and Juliet. The only Nickelodeon ship that is well written is Creddie with Carly and Freddie. The rest? Seddie was abusive, Bade was toxic, Cabbie was boring. Josh and Mindy was fine. And what do you mean dated? The Hannah Montana Songs are still going strong on TH-cam Shorts and tiktok. And Hannah Montana was popular for a reason. First of all because of Miley Cyrus. Second of all because the concept was unique. A girl living a double life as a Rockstar was unique. Third of all, the songs! You're take is bullshit Disney never went downhill because of the sitcoms, in fact they got more and more popular. Also that's a you problem if you don't like them cause saying that Disney is dying because of the sitcoms, is such a damn lie! You wrote so much, yesterday you said less.
@@splat-trainproductions Oh and they got popular because of they're cast. Like is that hard to understand? Shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place and so on got popular because of theyre Main Star. Without These Shows, None of these people would ever Had a music career. Also without These Sitcoms Nickelodeon would have never started with that Trend and both Disney Channel and Nickelodeon would have shutdown way earlier. Babamm!
@@Simbala-bq5vyDude, I wasn’t even trying to “ba-bam” you, I was just expressing my opinion, and opinions should be respected. I just never liked the sitcoms as a child, an adult, or even at the age of the target demographic: the tweens. I just always preferred the cartoons. And I don’t care if something is popular, yes it’s important to be popular, but that shouldn’t be taken for granted to the point where only one group of people can enjoy it until they see the next big thing, as like fashion outfits, fads will fade over time. So if you want to last, you should focus on making good quality content so that it can last for a long time. Quality over quantity.
Disney made good stuff in the 80’s and 90’s during the Eisner era. This was both on screen and in the parks. This was back when Tony Baxter made Splash and Big Thunder. Nowadays, they can’t make anything good on screen or in parks.
Not everything from Modern Disney is bad. Inside out 2, Deadpool and Wolverine and Moana 2 are enjoyable and are successful. I heard positive things of X-Men 97 and Agatha all along. The Wizards of Waverly place revival is also getting praised and the Epic Mickey rebrushed game looks and is so much better than the original.
It's strange to me that Disney is the studio being scapegoated, when they are far from the original or the worst offender. I trace the beginnings of "modern Hollywood" to 1976, when Paramount Pictures remade KING KONG for no good reason - and, in today's vernacular, also "updated it for modern audiences." That was nearly half a century ago, which means that close to two whole generations have grown up in an entertainment world that is overloaded on nostalgia. Of course Disney would eventually succumb to the trend.
The last really good non-Marvel Disney project I can remember was THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG, and that was 15 years ago. By analogy, then, we're currently in the year 1982 - a decade and a half removed from THE JUNGLE BOOK - and the next THE LITTLE MERMAID is still the better part of a decade off. Back in the real 1982, of course, the biggest project Disney were getting ready to launch was their cable channel, so it makes sense they'd be investing in home entertainment instead of mass entertainment at this point. But lightning won't strike twice. People are bored with television now.
My kids are barely interested in disney stuff. Well, my youngest daughter could be. I have subscribed for the holidays. We'll see if we keep it after. I can says that squeleton crew is the first show in more than a year have united the family. I'm still cautiously optimistic about the show. We'll see in time.
Honestly, I don't blame the entire Disney studio for losing their touch (magic), but I do blame the bad writing/directoring, and cash grabbers, which would explain a lot for live action remakes, and it's not just for Disney, even live action versions of our beloved tv shows from our childhood that actually makes things worse, not to mention this is also why some people *wished* that Disney's Wish never existed like all those other bad Disney movies and sequels.
I only use Disney plus for yhe Disney movies and for the Disney channel shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place, Thats so Raven and so on. Is sonny with a chance even on Disney plus?
Disney has been producing many MCU flops lately and I think that it might not be too much longer until the SCU becomes the second best Cinematic Universe especially due to next week's movie installment #3 from it clearly being one of the most hyped and highly anticipated 2024 theatrical release movies and what many people worldwide have been positively saying about that movie!
I agree that D+ is a major factor in Disney's decline, especially as it relates to a chase for subscribers that they cannot win. I think the next biggest issue they have is direction. They generally don't seem to want to craft stories for families, or even the longtime fans of what Disney has done before, be it traditional Disney fare, or fans of StarWars (or any of Lucasfilm's IP) or Marvel. Oddly, the only thing under the Disney umbrella that doesn't seem to have as much of a problem as the others is FOX movies; Alien Romulus was solid, and Predator Prey was a little better than "ok". They want to drive politics and ideologies - the latter of which do not usually work with traditional family values. Until very recently when they have claimed they're going to move away from those things. I'll believe it when I see it more than a few times. I won't trust them until they prove they've changed.
Would one of you guys give me a time machine so I could go back in time tell George Lucas’s about the bad future of Star Wars like making George Lucas’s realisation like maybe doesn’t sold Star Wars in this alternate timeline I guess but that’s just my opinion
@TheForceFandom for me, it's the classic disney 2d movies, the Disney Afternoon, the recent bio movies about the classic Disney era (including when Walt was alive and the Renaissance)
Greedy, out-of-touch executives that have no shred of creativity in their bodies.
Microsoft too
Walt Disney would've been ashamed of the state that his company is in.
:(
Disney focusing on sequels & live action remakes over originals is when they entirely lost their magic!
They've had that flaw since the 1990s, when the live-action 101 DALMATIANS was a huge hit. That was the "franchise original sin," and in a number of ways the beginning of the end. But even before then, Disney had creativity problems. Their styles and gimmicks were pretty formulaic almost from the beginning, and as early as the '50s they were already recycling their animation techniques instead of trying to make each cartoon look unique (if you compare CINDERELLA, THE SWORD AND THE STONE, and the 1957 cartoon "The Truth About Mother Goose," you'll see some blatant overlap). The truth is, a lot of the content from the past is not quite as good as we remember it, and it's considered "classic" both because of the nostalgia effect and because much of what comes after it is even worse.
To me, I blame the Sitcoms on Disney Channel. They were the first sign that the Walt Disney Company was losing its quality.
@@splat-trainproductions Say what? Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place, That's so Raven and so on were so much better than most of the cartoons. Also it was the reason why Disney channel even became popular in the first place. Same thing with Nickelodeon.
@@Simbala-bq5vy
1.) I was mainly referring to It’s A Laugh Productions sitcoms that were actually made by Disney, That’s So Raven wasn’t made by It’s A Laugh Productions, so it doesn’t count.
2.) The reason why the Nickelodeon sitcoms (Specifically All That!, The Amanda Show, Drake and Josh, and the first few seasons of iCarly) were good was because they had good writing and were the most part grounded in realism. You don’t see any of them having things like magic, super powers, or any other supernatural abilities that would require digital effects that make you question why is it even a sitcom if the live audience can’t even see the digital effects in front of their eyes on the set-Oh wait, that’s right: The audience that we hear on these Disney sitcoms are not even real. Are you starting to see the problem? Not to mention, I don’t think a lot of people look back at the Nick sitcoms with fond memories due to Dan Schneider being a creep.
3.) Just because it’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s good. Frozen is a big example of this, along with Skibidi Toilet, Among Us, Lunchly, and any meme used by SMG4 or any dated things like clothes, movies, shows, and food ideas that aged like sour milk and rotten eggs.
4.) Yes, not all of the Saturday morning cartoons were good(I still shudder when I think of Pickle and Peanut.), but I can think of more good cartoons than good It’s A Laugh Productions sitcoms: DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, Tailspin, Timon & Pumba, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces of Evil, Phineas and Ferb, both 101 Dalmatians shows, etc. The only good It’s A Laugh Productions show that I like is Zach & Cody. That’s it. Sorry I’m not a Wizard’s of Waverly Place guy.
5.) The Walt Disney company was well known for its cartoon movies and short cartoons more than any of their live action movies prior to the 21st century, so why is Disney Channel more well known for its live action sitcoms than any of their animated shows?
6.) Hannah Montana. Hannah liver fluking Top 10 Radio Disney completely dated product of the time Montana. I don’t even know why people even defend this show. This was the one that ruined the whole Walt Disney company in my eyes. This along with the shows that came after all use the same story about a normal family, “but they have a secret!” trope. Hannah Montana is also a bad influence. Don’t believe me? Look what happened to Miley Cyrus after Hannah Montana.
@@splat-trainproductions You're so dead wrong.
The sitcoms were the reason why disney channel even was popular.
The Disney channel sitcoms felt more real because of they're characters. Mileys struggling because of her double life as Hannah Montana felt real and we could feel how much she's struggling.
Alex Russo and Chad Dylan cooper are like one of the best characters because they both started as jerks but later on developed and became slit more nicer. And what do you mean me Nickelodeon has the better writing? Victorious had a awful writing, the characters weren't deep or were one dimensional. iCarly? Seddie was a mess and is one of the worst ships of all time. This whole love triangle on iCarly was a damn mess. Zoey 101? Zoey brooks is like one of the worst main characters in all of disnick. And no the humour was funny. That's so Raven is so hilarious, so was Wizards of Waverly place, Good luck Charlie, Suite life of Zack and Cody, Jessie and so on.
Also you didn't even mentioned It's a laugh production so blame yourself.
And yes a double life as a rockstar and a family full of wizards and seeing through is unrealistic so? Talking animals, fairytale creatures, singing out of nowhere, indestructible beings, huge monsters are also unrealistic. But what isn't unrealistic is the dynamic. Good luck Charlie has like the best family dynamic out of every disnick sitcom. What was the family dynamic in Nickelodeon? Drake and Josh's parents always blaming the boys and always protecting Megan? Carlys dad never being there, Freddie's mother being a control freak and embarrassing and Sams mother being straight up abusive? And Tori and Tina's parents that give a fuck about they're daughters and her mother cheating on her husband is better and more realistic?
And the love stories? Forget it! Disney channel has Sonny and Chad, Alex and Mason, Miley and Jesse, Lilly and Oliver, PJ and Skylar, Justin and Juliet. The only Nickelodeon ship that is well written is Creddie with Carly and Freddie. The rest? Seddie was abusive, Bade was toxic, Cabbie was boring. Josh and Mindy was fine.
And what do you mean dated?
The Hannah Montana Songs are still going strong on TH-cam Shorts and tiktok.
And Hannah Montana was popular for a reason. First of all because of Miley Cyrus. Second of all because the concept was unique. A girl living a double life as a Rockstar was unique. Third of all, the songs!
You're take is bullshit Disney never went downhill because of the sitcoms, in fact they got more and more popular. Also that's a you problem if you don't like them cause saying that Disney is dying because of the sitcoms, is such a damn lie!
You wrote so much, yesterday you said less.
@@splat-trainproductions Oh and they got popular because of they're cast. Like is that hard to understand? Shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place and so on got popular because of theyre Main Star.
Without These Shows, None of these people would ever Had a music career. Also without These Sitcoms Nickelodeon would have never started with that Trend and both Disney Channel and Nickelodeon would have shutdown way earlier.
Babamm!
@@Simbala-bq5vyDude, I wasn’t even trying to “ba-bam” you, I was just expressing my opinion, and opinions should be respected. I just never liked the sitcoms as a child, an adult, or even at the age of the target demographic: the tweens. I just always preferred the cartoons. And I don’t care if something is popular, yes it’s important to be popular, but that shouldn’t be taken for granted to the point where only one group of people can enjoy it until they see the next big thing, as like fashion outfits, fads will fade over time. So if you want to last, you should focus on making good quality content so that it can last for a long time. Quality over quantity.
Disney made good stuff in the 80’s and 90’s during the Eisner era. This was both on screen and in the parks. This was back when Tony Baxter made Splash and Big Thunder. Nowadays, they can’t make anything good on screen or in parks.
Disney was gold from the start up until 2014
...until the end of the 90s
@ sure they had their own speed bumps in the 2000s but no hard feelings, but I beg to differ
Not everything from Modern Disney is bad. Inside out 2, Deadpool and Wolverine and Moana 2 are enjoyable and are successful. I heard positive things of X-Men 97 and Agatha all along. The Wizards of Waverly place revival is also getting praised and the Epic Mickey rebrushed game looks and is so much better than the original.
Most of your examples are from acquired IPs, while 3 are from properties Disney has _always_ owned/controlled.
@AndrewsMagicandMore So?
Doesn't matter the fact that I like them.
The ads and restricting accounts to one household is definitely going to kill them.
I'd also like to say their Marvel Cinematic Universe is like confusing. Even as someone who likes Thor. Netflix shows don't require backstory/ lore.
Great point.
Corporate greed, lack of originality and almost all of the movies they make nowadays are unnecessary sequels and live action remakes
Yep, because all they want to do is fill the content machine
It's strange to me that Disney is the studio being scapegoated, when they are far from the original or the worst offender. I trace the beginnings of "modern Hollywood" to 1976, when Paramount Pictures remade KING KONG for no good reason - and, in today's vernacular, also "updated it for modern audiences." That was nearly half a century ago, which means that close to two whole generations have grown up in an entertainment world that is overloaded on nostalgia. Of course Disney would eventually succumb to the trend.
To live someday in a world free of disney, one can only hope.
The last really good non-Marvel Disney project I can remember was THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG, and that was 15 years ago. By analogy, then, we're currently in the year 1982 - a decade and a half removed from THE JUNGLE BOOK - and the next THE LITTLE MERMAID is still the better part of a decade off. Back in the real 1982, of course, the biggest project Disney were getting ready to launch was their cable channel, so it makes sense they'd be investing in home entertainment instead of mass entertainment at this point. But lightning won't strike twice. People are bored with television now.
My kids are barely interested in disney stuff. Well, my youngest daughter could be. I have subscribed for the holidays. We'll see if we keep it after. I can says that squeleton crew is the first show in more than a year have united the family. I'm still cautiously optimistic about the show. We'll see in time.
Yea other than bluey my kids never choose Disney.
@@TheForceFandom I guess they choose Universal, Warner Bros, Nickelodeon, or something else
@@goldenbear-hv5yuAnd what about the Anime😊❤🇯🇵
Honestly, I don't blame the entire Disney studio for losing their touch (magic), but I do blame the bad writing/directoring, and cash grabbers, which would explain a lot for live action remakes, and it's not just for Disney, even live action versions of our beloved tv shows from our childhood that actually makes things worse, not to mention this is also why some people *wished* that Disney's Wish never existed like all those other bad Disney movies and sequels.
They're appealing more to normies. AI allows companies to know what's working and what's not.
I only use Disney plus for yhe Disney movies and for the Disney channel shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly place, Thats so Raven and so on.
Is sonny with a chance even on Disney plus?
They should make the Disney plus subscription price cheaper
And to think i’m still waiting for them to add buzz lightyear of star command and house of mouse
Same here. But I’d add JoJo’s Circus, Ooh and Aah, Stanley, Breakfast with Bear, Hailey’s On It!, Charlie and Lola, and Koala Brothers to the list.
Losing the original Fort Wilderness cabins and Splash Mountain were a low blow. Same for virtual queues.
Disney has been producing many MCU flops lately and I think that it might not be too much longer until the SCU becomes the second best Cinematic Universe especially due to next week's movie installment #3 from it clearly being one of the most hyped and highly anticipated 2024 theatrical release movies and what many people worldwide have been positively saying about that movie!
Just went back and rewatched this video, It’s so good man, more of this please!
@@JonAdamsTech haha, you’re the best!
90s yes
THE 80S HELL NO, they are literally called the Disney Dark Ages for a reason
The late 80’s it turned around
disney in it's chernabog era smh...
I agree that D+ is a major factor in Disney's decline, especially as it relates to a chase for subscribers that they cannot win.
I think the next biggest issue they have is direction.
They generally don't seem to want to craft stories for families, or even the longtime fans of what Disney has done before, be it traditional Disney fare, or fans of StarWars (or any of Lucasfilm's IP) or Marvel.
Oddly, the only thing under the Disney umbrella that doesn't seem to have as much of a problem as the others is FOX movies; Alien Romulus was solid, and Predator Prey was a little better than "ok".
They want to drive politics and ideologies - the latter of which do not usually work with traditional family values. Until very recently when they have claimed they're going to move away from those things.
I'll believe it when I see it more than a few times.
I won't trust them until they prove they've changed.
Absolutely, they have lost all trust from fans. Have to earn it back.
Is there anything you are looking forward to?
@@TheForceFandomFor me, Kingdom Hearts 4 to end the whole series.
because they destroyed walt's legacy. they did not even do proper 35mm 4k restorations. i should go there and take them away from them
I double dog dare you
Would one of you guys give me a time machine so I could go back in time tell George Lucas’s about the bad future of Star Wars like making George Lucas’s realisation like maybe doesn’t sold Star Wars in this alternate timeline I guess but that’s just my opinion
Why does your voice sound like the total drama island host guy 😂
He does sound a little bit like Chris McLean. I'd like to thank you for putting that image in my head.
I must confess I do not know who that is... now I must find out.
The fact that disney is so much disliked nowdays is kinda sad
Removing Splash Mountain.
Need i say more?
Ms. Marvel was a good show! Could have been better as a movie but it was a good show!
Still to expect people to watch a TV show to make a movie make sense isn’t a good strategy
How.. did.. you... Know 😱😱😨😨😨 ?
i'm still loyal to Disney+ and proud of it
What do you enjoy on Disney +?
@@TheForceFandom several things the homeward bound films the documentary Howard monsters at work and several others
@TheForceFandom for me, it's the classic disney 2d movies, the Disney Afternoon, the recent bio movies about the classic Disney era (including when Walt was alive and the Renaissance)
Enjoy not suing Disney after agree to their ToS
@@therealjaystone2344 hmm
I hope this video explodes. It’s so freaking good
rest in peace disney studio & Parks anytime soon
I’m your 2.2% Keep up your good work!
thanks so much, I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Rest In Peace Disney
What about Kathleen Kennedy?
Naw she ruined star wars which is equally as bad but not there downfall but it did contribute
@@marquviousgreen4674 I heard great things about Starwars Visions. Instead of a over-arching story, it's an anthology series.
I just wanted to you please nekw that Disney dosen't care about lgbt repesantation that's is sad actually 😭😭😔
How so?