@@ecgrey The academy awards is not for best American made film, it’s for the best film RELEASED in America. But the Academy members are mostly English speaking Americans, so there is an inherent bias towards American, or at least English speaking, movies.
@@tomleonard830 Most of foreign movies were released in US later than in home country. For example Seven Samurai were released in Japan in 1954, but were nominated for Oscars for year 1956 (ceremony in 1957). Not for a best movie, though. There was also 50 minutes missing from american release.
I had to go check that on Letterboxd my jaw dropped from joy, although imo it’s not beating get out, blade runner 2049, shape of water, coco, or Logan in my top film of that year
Paddington 2 SUCKS he got arrested and he didn’t even commit the crime. Left the theater the second the cops arrested him. I see why people make music like “fuck the police”
And one of those is a kludge to fit the Oscars: Casablanca was released in 1942 but won its Oscars in 1943. If Letterboxd used its actual release year Casablanca would probably have been tops in 1942 instead.
1. All Quiet On The Western Front 2. It Happened One Night 3. Casablanca 4. The Godfather 5. The Godfather Part II 6. Schindlers List 7. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King 8. The Departed 9. Parasite 10. Everything Everywhere All at Once
1. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) 2. It Happened One Night (1934) 3. Casablanca (1942) 4. The Godfather (1972) 5. The Godfather Part II (1974) 6. Schindler’s List (1993) 7. The Lord of the Rings - The Return of The King (2003) 8. The Departed (2006) 9. Parasite (2019) 10. Everything Everywhere All At Once (2022)
Oscars: lets ignore animation and give it to non-disney to not make any controversy for two years Letterboxd: Animation movies are the best of their year
@@rndmlttrs You are so wrong it's not funny. That movie IS a masterpiece and realistically it should have won, same with the first Paddington. How dare you.
19 times the Letterboxd winner was a nominee for the Oscar that year and lost. 1. 1939 - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington 2. 1940 - The Great Dictator 3. 1941 - Citizen Kane 4. 1944 - Double Indemnity 5. 1946 - It’s a Wonderful Life 6. 1948 - The Red Shoes 7. 1950 - Sunset Boulevard 8. 1957 - 12 Angry Men 9. 1975 - Barry Lyndon 10. 1976 - Network 11. 1979 - Apocalypse Now 12. 1990 - Goodfellas 13. 1994 - The Shawshank Redemption 14. 1996 - Secrets and Lies 15. 2005 - Brokeback Mountain 16. 2007 - There Will Be Blood 17. 2009 - Inglorious Basterds 18. 2014 - Whiplash 19. 2020 - The Father The other 67 times the Letterboxd winner wasn’t even a nominee. Be it because their popularity didn’t come until later on, they were foreign films that weren’t noticed at the time, or the Academy just outright snubbed them.
It wasn’t just that some of the foreign films weren’t noticed or snubbed. Many were just outright not eligible to be nominated because they didn’t have American theatrical releases until years later. The Academy could only select movies that they were available. That’s not to say they’d have made any of the bolder choices that they could have, but the Letterboxd audience isn’t constrained by those rules.
Probably misremembering but wasn't it direct to DVD? Would it even qualify? That movie scared the crap outta me when I was a kid. Something about Rumi's and the stalker's eyes.
@@ravesilvaI think Your Name v Moonlight just runs into the age old problem of ranking very different things. They both have near perfect command on the specific things they set out to achieve.
There is actually a yearly Oscar Vote on Letterboxd since 2019, where users do a vote with the exact same rules as the Oscars. The Winners were: 2019: Parasite 2020: Minari 2021: Dune 2022: Everything Everywhere All at Once 2023: Oppenheimer
@@vasconcelos7356 Watch foreign films with lower budgets for God's sake... Showing Up, Killers of the Flower Moon, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, Tar, The Fabelmans, Nope, Licorice Pizza, Three Thousand Years of Longing, Spencer, Top Gun Maverick, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Armageddon Time were WAY better films from USA these years.
@@vasconcelos7356 Watch more foreign films and with lower budgets. Better US films in 2022-2023 : Showing Up, Menus plaisirs - Les troisgros, Killers of the Flower Moon, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, Tar, The Fabelmans, Nope, Three Thousands Years of Longing, Top Gun Maverick, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, May December, The Sweet East, Man in Black and Zone of Interest.
It's worth remembering that the Oscars don't even consider foreign films for Best Picture until 1956 and that many foreign masterpieces after 1956 ended up winning Best Foreign Film instead.
Actually not true, Le Grande Illusion was nominated in the 30s. But the number nominated in the 20th century could probably be counted on one hand and one finger. Only 6 films not in English were nominated for Best Picture in the last century. The other 5 being Z; The Emigrants; Cries and Whispers; Il Postino; Life is Beautiful. There have been 6 films already this decade so far.
I wonder that. If life is beautiful or cries and Whispers won on their respective years, would that make the academy nominated more international foreign language films or not.
@@HarryPujols It is a French film, yes, but it’s a silent film so doesn’t count really. I think it’s great though, even if I don’t think it was the best film that year
There is also a bias to this list. These are films that were watched after the creation of Letterboxd. So people were more able to pick and choose the movies that they would like knowing more of the history of the film. The Oscars are about who enjoyed the movie more only in its year of release.
@@xertz2502 well i mean some of the earlier best picture winners dont hold up because they seem a bit dated, but at the time they didnt see it that way because it was modern to them. Or at least I assume thats what the original commenter meant
@@xertz2502 We now know which movies from say the 1950's are good and also which ones that are good have stood the test of time. We know the ones that have been written about and which actors and actresses are now beloved. The year the movie came out, people really didn't know this. There might have been some write ups in papers, but there was no internet, and no shows like Entertainment Tonight and the like. Also access to these movies have changed in the last 70 or so years. Some movies have a lot more access now than others due to streaming and dvd access. An example might be The Greatest Show On Earth, which won the Oscar for the best picture, but over history it's been named as one of the poorer choices for best picture. Knowing this, people may not avoid it.
tbh I think that if City of God and Perfect Blue would've won over Chicago and Titanic respectively, they would've become major controversies. I mean, They're both great films, but they just don't fit in the commercial and successful look the Academy tended to seek during those times (even our times, but at least they finally seem to be more open towards independent productions), and also the fact they're both really gruesome and complex, and like I said, against the commercial standard they were seeking. :(
Yeah I thought this would be exactly this. In my opinion a much better idea for a video, because this is just a list of highest rated letterbosed movies of each year, and everybody knows most of these films never had a chance at winning.
A small channel did this, and I did this same video concept but What If Letterboxd Decided Best Animated Film at the Oscar’s. Go check it out on my channel to see what won each year!
It's really funny to me that Gandhi (1982) was beaten out by The Thing. He preached non-violence and he lost to one of the most violent movies of all time 😆
I don't think Gandhi would be against violence if said violence was used against a malevolent being from another world that was set to destroy humanity. His pacifism was mainly political.
Gandhi said that the Jews should have leapt off cliffs to their deaths in order to protest the inhumanity of the holocaust. Not really relevant, I just think it's an interesting tidbit.
Have to say, I almost entirely agree with Letterboxd for the much older movies in this list. Metropolis, City Lights, Double Indemnity, Brief Encounter, It’s a Wonderful Life, The Red Shoes, they’re are all timeless classics while the winners for most of those years are largely forgotten. Once you get into conversations like Lawrence of Arabia vs Harakiri it’s more just down to personal taste, but oh man some real stinkers were winning best picture in those early days.
I don't know, it seemed like a lot of the older Best Picture winners were directed by people that had won the Letterboxd "award" a few years prior. I never really considered how many movies people like Capra and Wilder pumped out!
There are real stinkers winning the Oscar all the time. I guarantee you, no one will remember the best picture winner of the year Get Out was released.
I think what is really interesting about this is it shows how much more curated the Oscars are. Like, there were several years were very similar movies (in terms of theme, style etc.) won on Letterbox. This was obviously something that the Oscars would try to avoid. Also, at the Oscars, they give MANY awards. So a film that might be beloved and remembered today for an actress's stand-out performance, might have had her win best leading actress, but on Letterbox, it will just show as getting really good reviews. Obviously, since Letterbox is more international than the Oscars, the top picks are more international. But also, most of the Letterbox films were chosen in retrospect, were as the Oscars have to pick the best movie of the year, in that year. I found the Letterbox choices got a lot less timeless and highbrow once we hit the era of films were more average moviegoers were rating the films they had seen that year, (i.e. from the 2000s/2010s) as opposed to previous decades were it was people who were watching and rating films that had stood the test of time
Halfway through the video, and I just gotta say thank you for putting in the time to make the compilation look this freakin' good. The clip selections are fantastic. Some of the hero worship here is predictable (Kurosawa again? You don't say...) but it does feel like the perfect list is somewhere in-between these winners and the Academy's.
Having this stretch so far back in time makes me wonder whether the people who lived then would agree :) I'd love to go back in time, show this video, and ask if there's a hidden gem that got lost to the Oscar's AND lost to time
That’s a great point. I read a statistic somewhere that almost half the films pre-1950 are now non existent. If that’s true who knows how many incredible works of art we’ve missed out on forever.
Only movies that matched up - 1930: All Quiet on the Western Front - 1934: It Happened One Night - 1943: Casablanca - 1972: The Godfather - 1974: The Godfather: Part II - 1994: Schindler's List - 2003: Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King - 2006: The Departed - 2019: Parasite - 2022: Everything Everywhere all at Once
If I understand the method correctly, Letterboxd ratings are typically given decades after the films were released. This has the advantage of insight into which films have stood the test of time, a luxury that the Oscars do not have.
Letterboxd has a weird relationship with Kubrick. He's a bit unfortunate in that Paths Of Glory has a 4.4, but it was made in 1957, and not many films are beating out 12 Angry Men
The knowledge that Into the Spider-Verse dropped the year Green Book won will never not be funny to me. I don't even hate the movie as much as most people do, but it wasn't even in the top-half of the Best Picture nominees that year, and just goes to show how much the Academy devalues animation (something they still do considering that Maestro got a nom over Across the Spide-Verse).
I think Spider-Verse's being snubbed for Best Picture has to do with the general state of the American animation industry as it does for the Academy's biases toward the animation medium. The fact that the industry, at least in America, is so trapped within the confides of commerce where no major studio is able to make something without having to appeal to a family audience in order to start a franchise or leverage preexisting IP doesn't do any favors for the general stereotyping of animation as anything but a commercial crowd-pleaser in the eyes of the industry. Depite Spider-Verse being a legitimately good movie, the commercial circumstances that led to its inception serve as an extension of the view among executives of animation as a capitalistic endeavor to sell product, thus wrongfully codifying the medium as product. That said, I'm disappointed that the internet's animation 'community' can't look at animation with more reverence beyond the mainstream output of the major American studios.
This video idea is so good, could have been nice if you also included the Letterboxd ratings of both the Letterboxd and Oscar movies. Edit: Nevermind, just saw your newer video with added ratings.
Some of these movie transitions have such tonal or environment whiplash that it's hilarious, the ones where it was mainly prominent were Shawshank Redemption to La Haine and Spirited Away to City of God.
The old people from Oscar's love depressing movies. Ordinary Movie will leave you depressed so much you won't be able to stand up, breathe and do natural functions for a long time. With the Oscar's full of old people, it makes sense.
Was Ordinary People Redford’s directorial debut? He had so much Hollywood clout that I wonder if he was able to get the win because of his own popularity.
@@Hunkules09probably. There is so much one has to do to win the award besides just making the movie from what I’ve heard. Oscars over the years have their ups and downs for sure
While I agree that It's a Wonderful Life is the best film of that year, The Best Years of Our Lives is also an amazing film, and given the context of WWII having just ended and it being the first film to really depict PTSD, it's win is very justified.
It's a mix -- I agree with the Letterboxd picks more frequently, but not exclusively. But I was particularly happy to see PAPER MOON chosen over THE STING. I saw both movies when they came out (I was 12-13) and infinitely preferred PAPER MOON. Multiple viewings of both movies down through they years only confirmed my original early adolescent impression. More often than not, I would probably have chosen a different film than either Letterboxd or the Academy. :)
I'm glad there are many European movies on this list. These mentioned are truly masterpieces, and there are also many more. It's a shame they don't get enough attention.
Letterboxd's first BP winner to be directed by a woman was in 1977, as opposed to the Academy not having one until 2010 - but the Academy has selected two more since then while The Ascent appears to remain the only woman-directed film on the LB list. Interesting that while the LB list skews more diverse in multiple ways (nationality/language, genre, medium), it's even more man-heavy than the Academy. I'm pretty stunned that LB still snubbed people like Agnes Varda and Mira Nair, to say nothing of the more contemporary options. That said, I'd love to see what the top 5 would look like each year for Letterboxd; maybe this changes if we look at nominees instead of just winners.
So interesting to see this. Honestly, while the Academy can be biased, it does make you think about how many amazing films there are every year. I know for quite a few of the years I would've had trouble deciding a winner. Makes you appreciate all the artists who's hard work goes into creating amazing films
Directors who appear multiple times: Akira Kurosawa (5) - Ikiru, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, High and Low, Red Beard Francis Ford Coppola (3) - The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Apocalypse Now Billy Wilder (3) - Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, Ace In the Hole Frank Capra (3) - It Happened One Night, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, It's a Wonderful Life Charlie Chaplin (3) - City Lights, Modern Times, The Great Dictator Denis Villeneuve (2) - Incendies, Prisoners Martin Scorsese (2) - Goodfellas, The Departed Edward Yang (2) - A Brighter Summer Day, Yi Yi Abbas Kiarostami (2) - Where Is the Friend's House?, Life and Nothing More... Andrei Tarkovsky (2) - Nostalgia, The Sacrifice Sidney Lumet (2) - 12 Angry Men, Network Jean-Pierre Melville (2) - Army of Shadow, Le Cercle Rouge Sergio Leone (2) - The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Once Upon a Time In the West Yasujiro Ozu (2) - Late Spring, Tokyo Story Ernst Lubitsch (2) - Trouble In Paradise, To Be or Not To Be Fritz Lang (2) - Metropolis, The Testament of Dr Mabuse Other directors include: G.W. Pabst, Lewis Milestone, Ernst Lubitsch, James Whale, Leo McCarey, Howard Hawks, Orson Welles, Michael Curtiz, David Lean, Jacques Tourneur, Emeric Pressburger & Michael Powell, Carl Theodor Dreyer, Robert Bresson, Alfred Hitchcock, Francois Truffaut, Jacques Becker, Masaki Kobayashi, Hiroshi Teshigahara, Jacques Demy, Ken Russell, Peter Bogdonavich, Stanley Kubrick, Larisa Shepitko (first woman on the list!), Ingmar Bergman, Irvin Kershner, Wolfgang Petersen, John Carpenter, Wim Wenders, Elem Klimov, Isao Takahata (first animated!), Spike Lee (first black director although there's been plenty of Japanese ones), Steven Spielberg, Frank Darabont, Matthieu Kassovitz, Mike Leigh, Satoshi Kon, Theo Angelopoulos, David Fincher, Hayao Miyazaki, Fernando Meirelles, Peter Jackson, Hirokazu Kore-eda, Ang Lee, Paul Thomas Anderson, Christopher Nolan, Quentin Tarantino, Denis Villeneuve, Asghar Farhadi, Thomas Vinterburg, Damien Chazelle, Ciro Guerra, Makoto Shinkai, Paul King, Rodney Rothman & Peter Ramsey & Bob Persichetti, Bong Joon-ho, Florian Zeller, Dean Fleischer Camp, The Daniels, Joaquim Dos Santos & Justin K Thompson & Kemp Powers Only a few years where I prefer the actual winner! Controversially, I do favor The Best Years of Our Lives over It's a Wonderful Life, although both are amazing films. I haven't seen Le Trou, but The Apartment is one of my favorites! And I do prefer No Country over There Will Be Blood. I'm surprised by some of these picks, but having Kurosawa as the undisputed master makes more sense to me than John Ford. (Ironically, Ford was Kurosawa's favorite director! Also ironically... Ford isn't on here. At all.) Biggest director omissions are probably John Ford, William Wyler, the Coen Brothers (my favorites and yes I'm mad), Roman Polanski (although he's a child molester so whatever), and Federico Fellini (who doesn't have an Oscar either). I am surprised that a few -- like Hitchcock, Spielberg, Bergman, and Kubrick -- are only on here once, but I'm also okay with that. Just having one is a big enough deal. Some other omissions: as far as I'm aware, only one woman director is on the list, surprisingly in the 1970s (Larisa Shepitko). I believe there are also only two black directors on the list (Spike Lee and Kemp Powers), although there are a lot more international picks, including several more brown directors (Meirelles, Farhadi), and a lot of Japanese and Asian directors, so it's hard to pretend like this is somehow worse than the actual oscars. On the flip side... Hitchcock, Bergman, and Kubrick don't have directing Oscars in the actual canon, but their films are rewarded here. Kurosawa was only nominated once. Chaplin was just given a composing Oscar in his twilight years. Ozu, Lang, Miyazaki, Kon... these are inspired picks. Even John Carpenter gets some recognition on the Letterboxd list! (But wow, still no Ridley Scott.) I did notice there were a lot more repetitions in the early years, which probably relates to the more limited awareness of obscure and international picks, leading to more mainstream selections. But that's okay -- I've seen most of the early picks, haha! (And they're great!) Of course, all this is assuming the directing wins would line up with picture wins, and of course they wouldn't... but it's cool to look at. Although I haven't seen a lot of the movies on the Letterboxd list, I think it's pretty clearly a superior list.
2016 broke something in the Letterboxd community, it's all downhill from there. Your Name over Moonlight is nuts, then both Spider-Verses? Crazy stuff.
I love this experiment, great job, great video. My only complaint is that you didn’t include documentaries, when the Academy rules do in fact allow for documentaries to be nominated for BP and possibly win. It just hasn’t happened yet. I wonder if Letterboxd would’ve picked one tho. 🤔
I think that is exactly what you'd expect. The Letterboxd voters weren't voting the year the film was released like the oscars. Most will have voted in the last 5 years.
i know statistically a sample of 1000 is meant to be representative of a population or whatever - but i think it needs to be something bigger than just 1000+ reviews to qualify and rank. with that said this is an amazing quality video 👏🏼
It would be interesting to see the list but with the highest rated English Language film as that is probably a more accurate comparison for the most part.
Yes ! This is so much better than the actual Best Picture List ! Metropolis, the Red Shoes, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Ikiry ... so many films I loved are on this list. ❤
I'm in team No Country over There Will Be Blood, but I can accept the two being interchangeable for best director and picture categories, both deserve it in their own ways.
If you do this again in the future, please also show the Letterboxd ratings for each film. It would be interesting to see how users rated the Oscar winners compared to the Letterboxd winners.
This was cool! I spent most of 2024 watching all 96 Best Picture Oscar winners and I found myself like "Yep, Letterboxd got it right. The actual Oscar winner was like watching paint dry" several times (looking right the f*ck at you, Out of Africa!!) I'm gonna have to check out many of the older/foreign films. And though it is exclusively for American films, I've also gotten into the Library of Congress's National Film Registry, I find that is usually a better indicator of a movie's longevity and impact on pop culture than the Oscars. Plus they actually preserve "lesser" genres like horror and animation. This year they preserved the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which I was pretty stoked about.
Fun experiment in presentism. My only complaint is that the older films don't accurately demonstrate what the Academy could have voted for, as many foreign films wouldn't have been eligible that year. Many of the films were not even released in the United States until later. For Example: Tokyo Story (1953) was released in the United States in1972. Awesome movie, but it wouldn't have competed against From Here to Eternity. I'd be interested to see another version with eligible films only.
Letterboxd actually has an Oscars vote for their members every year and they used to have Letterboxd Community Awards. These are their Best Picture winners. 2014: Her 2015: Boyhood 2016: Mad Max Fury Road 2017: La La Land 2018: Call Me By Your Name 2019: Roma 2020: Parasite 2021: Minari 2022: Dune 2023: Everything Everywhere All At Once 2024: Oppenheimer It's very different than the highest average, because only highly watched movies can win an award and it's awarded in the year of release rather than retrospectively (both like the real Oscars).
Yeah, foreign films are nominated the year they get a US theatrical release, and only for the public, not for festivals. That’s a bit too complicated for me. I could never be on a committee to nominate movies.
I would say that’s more on the fault of the Academy for not considering international films sooner. If it was just American films, would that also discount any other English speaking films?
@@scribblebits The Academy was created by Hollywood studios to promote Hollywood films and, more importantly, to improve Hollywood's image. That was its job.
The problem is that you probably have on this list esoteric films that a few saw but loved. So perhaps try by filtering a certain amount of reviews to pick (1000? 500?).
Unsurprisingly a lot more foreign language movies than you would get from an American award show.
It's not like the Japanese Academy Awards or the Cesars nominate or have American films win. So why the double standard?
@@ecgrey The academy awards is not for best American made film, it’s for the best film RELEASED in America. But the Academy members are mostly English speaking Americans, so there is an inherent bias towards American, or at least English speaking, movies.
its an american award show, not a foreign language show...
@@tomleonard830 Most of foreign movies were released in US later than in home country. For example Seven Samurai were released in Japan in 1954, but were nominated for Oscars for year 1956 (ceremony in 1957). Not for a best movie, though. There was also 50 minutes missing from american release.
@@abriendo.COSILLAS that’s why it is not surprising.
Paddington 2 winning best picture would’ve achieved world peace, just saying.
I had to go check that on Letterboxd my jaw dropped from joy, although imo it’s not beating get out, blade runner 2049, shape of water, coco, or Logan in my top film of that year
Paddington 2 SUCKS he got arrested and he didn’t even commit the crime. Left the theater the second the cops arrested him. I see why people make music like “fuck the police”
@@garfieldfan925 cant tell if this is a joke but this is funny asf
@@garfieldfan925is this a joke
Have you heard of a film plot
@@osberswgamingit’s obviously a joke
Only 10 times Oscars and Letterboxd agreed.
We have the luxury of retrospective
They are almost as untrustworhy.
And one of those is a kludge to fit the Oscars: Casablanca was released in 1942 but won its Oscars in 1943. If Letterboxd used its actual release year Casablanca would probably have been tops in 1942 instead.
1. All Quiet On The Western Front
2. It Happened One Night
3. Casablanca
4. The Godfather
5. The Godfather Part II
6. Schindlers List
7. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
8. The Departed
9. Parasite
10. Everything Everywhere All at Once
1. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
2. It Happened One Night (1934)
3. Casablanca (1942)
4. The Godfather (1972)
5. The Godfather Part II (1974)
6. Schindler’s List (1993)
7. The Lord of the Rings - The Return of The King (2003)
8. The Departed (2006)
9. Parasite (2019)
10. Everything Everywhere All At Once (2022)
The academy has only nominated an animated film for Best Picture three times.
Letterbox gave an animated movie the WIN seven times.
And none are Disney properties! 🤯
Comedies get a lot more wins too compared to the Oscars. In 97 years, only four comedies won best picture.
Oscars: lets ignore animation and give it to non-disney to not make any controversy for two years
Letterboxd: Animation movies are the best of their year
@@scribblebits I was shocked. I really thought we'd get at least one Pixar in there at some point.
ATSV should not be rated as high as it is
Now do the opposite: What if Letterboxd decided the RAZZIES.
Don’t tempt me
Do it! 😈@@scribblebits
@@scribblebits What if Letterboxd did the Emmys with that one list
@@scribblebits I would like to tempt you 😉
@@scribblebits "DO IT" - Palpatine
Billy Wilder: Loses 2-3 Oscars
Also Billy Wilder: Wins 2-3 Oscars for other films
And he deserved ALL of them!
Billy Wilder was such a goat
I was so used to seeing all the foreign language films that Paddington 2 shocked me for a second.
Paddington 2 is such a meme pick. A perfectly passable kids movie, but it is no masterpiece. Jesus.
@@rndmlttrs I politely disagree.
@@rndmlttrs You are so wrong it's not funny. That movie IS a masterpiece and realistically it should have won, same with the first Paddington. How dare you.
@@rndmlttrs I’m yet to meet a person, adult or child, who doesn’t love Paddington (both 1 and 2, but specially 2)
@@rndmlttrs Wildly incorrect. It's unironically more crisp, sharp, and well-executed than Casablanca
19 times the Letterboxd winner was a nominee for the Oscar that year and lost.
1. 1939 - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
2. 1940 - The Great Dictator
3. 1941 - Citizen Kane
4. 1944 - Double Indemnity
5. 1946 - It’s a Wonderful Life
6. 1948 - The Red Shoes
7. 1950 - Sunset Boulevard
8. 1957 - 12 Angry Men
9. 1975 - Barry Lyndon
10. 1976 - Network
11. 1979 - Apocalypse Now
12. 1990 - Goodfellas
13. 1994 - The Shawshank Redemption
14. 1996 - Secrets and Lies
15. 2005 - Brokeback Mountain
16. 2007 - There Will Be Blood
17. 2009 - Inglorious Basterds
18. 2014 - Whiplash
19. 2020 - The Father
The other 67 times the Letterboxd winner wasn’t even a nominee. Be it because their popularity didn’t come until later on, they were foreign films that weren’t noticed at the time, or the Academy just outright snubbed them.
Apocalypse Now losing against Kramer Vs Kramer is Crazy
It wasn’t just that some of the foreign films weren’t noticed or snubbed. Many were just outright not eligible to be nominated because they didn’t have American theatrical releases until years later. The Academy could only select movies that they were available.
That’s not to say they’d have made any of the bolder choices that they could have, but the Letterboxd audience isn’t constrained by those rules.
Network losing to Rocky is WILDDDDD
All of them deserved to win, except I have a very soft spot for Rocky, and 1996’s best film was Fargo, and it isn’t even close.
@@HarryPujolsGone with the wind absolutely deserved its Oscar win.
Perfect Blue winning best picture would have been such a fever dream
A good fever dream
@@ΓΕΏΡΓΙΟΣ-ι8νMy top five animated films of all time, is really makes me happy
Probably misremembering but wasn't it direct to DVD? Would it even qualify? That movie scared the crap outta me when I was a kid. Something about Rumi's and the stalker's eyes.
@@benderb.r5041 Guess your parents thought it was a kid's film then
@@benderb.r5041 It was a theatrical film.
seeing Do The Right Thing win over Driving Miss Daisy here is so satisfying
While i prefer dead poets society and field of dreams. I can definitely live with that
@@ΓΕΏΡΓΙΟΣ-ι8νdefinitely like your options here way more. Dead poets society is so good that I liked it even when I don't even like poetry.
@@Khwerz Yeah, is sad that peter weir never won a oscar( he also directed truman show, master and commander etc..)
@ΓΕΏΡΓΙΟΣ-ι8νNah, we have enough "Robin Williams Hamming it Up: The Movie" fans already.
@ΓΕΏΡΓΙΟΣ-ι8ν Witness, The Last Wave, Picnic at Hanging Rock…
Sometimes I agree with letterboxed over the actual winner, other times I’m like “No, absolutely not, academy actually cooked with this one.”
the academy wasn’t gonna let it slide in 2007
Your Name over Moonlight was so foul
@@ravesilva LALALAND was robbed once again
@@ravesilvaI think Your Name v Moonlight just runs into the age old problem of ranking very different things. They both have near perfect command on the specific things they set out to achieve.
@@ravesilvaI said out loud "get the fuck outta here" 😅
There is actually a yearly Oscar Vote on Letterboxd since 2019, where users do a vote with the exact same rules as the Oscars. The Winners were:
2019: Parasite
2020: Minari
2021: Dune
2022: Everything Everywhere All at Once
2023: Oppenheimer
Apart from Parasite, those are very bad takes.
@@singeou7649 Oppenheimer and EEAAO are absolutely phenomenal pieces of film history.
@@vasconcelos7356 Watch foreign films with lower budgets for God's sake...
@@vasconcelos7356 Watch foreign films with lower budgets for God's sake...
Showing Up, Killers of the Flower Moon, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, Tar, The Fabelmans, Nope, Licorice Pizza, Three Thousand Years of Longing, Spencer, Top Gun Maverick, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Armageddon Time were WAY better films from USA these years.
@@vasconcelos7356 Watch more foreign films and with lower budgets.
Better US films in 2022-2023 : Showing Up, Menus plaisirs - Les troisgros, Killers of the Flower Moon, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, Tar, The Fabelmans, Nope, Three Thousands Years of Longing, Top Gun Maverick, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, May December, The Sweet East, Man in Black and Zone of Interest.
It's worth remembering that the Oscars don't even consider foreign films for Best Picture until 1956 and that many foreign masterpieces after 1956 ended up winning Best Foreign Film instead.
Actually not true, Le Grande Illusion was nominated in the 30s. But the number nominated in the 20th century could probably be counted on one hand and one finger. Only 6 films not in English were nominated for Best Picture in the last century. The other 5 being Z; The Emigrants; Cries and Whispers; Il Postino; Life is Beautiful. There have been 6 films already this decade so far.
I wonder that. If life is beautiful or cries and Whispers won on their respective years, would that make the academy nominated more international foreign language films or not.
Z was also nominated
@@hennersmusicreviews58 The Artist is technically a foreign film (it’s also trash and should have never won the Oscar)
@@HarryPujols It is a French film, yes, but it’s a silent film so doesn’t count really. I think it’s great though, even if I don’t think it was the best film that year
An alternate universe of if the Oscar’s allowed MORE foreign-language and animated films to win
These "wins" make a lot more sense than the actual Oscars wins. But then again historical hindsight gives a lot of help.
There is also a bias to this list. These are films that were watched after the creation of Letterboxd. So people were more able to pick and choose the movies that they would like knowing more of the history of the film. The Oscars are about who enjoyed the movie more only in its year of release.
how does historical hindsight help people figure out which movie is best?
@@xertz2502 well i mean some of the earlier best picture winners dont hold up because they seem a bit dated, but at the time they didnt see it that way because it was modern to them. Or at least I assume thats what the original commenter meant
@@xertz2502also the academy was (and slightly still is) quite racist
@@xertz2502 We now know which movies from say the 1950's are good and also which ones that are good have stood the test of time. We know the ones that have been written about and which actors and actresses are now beloved. The year the movie came out, people really didn't know this. There might have been some write ups in papers, but there was no internet, and no shows like Entertainment Tonight and the like. Also access to these movies have changed in the last 70 or so years. Some movies have a lot more access now than others due to streaming and dvd access. An example might be The Greatest Show On Earth, which won the Oscar for the best picture, but over history it's been named as one of the poorer choices for best picture. Knowing this, people may not avoid it.
Every time the results line up: “That’s why he’s the goat! …The GOAT!!”
I loved how amidst all the auteur art films there's The Thing from 1982.
Delightful
Miyazaki, Takahata, City of God and Satoshi winning Best Picture would be a dream coming true
Are you talking about spirited away? It won best foreign film.
@@Khwerz Spirited Away only won Best Animated Feature
tbh I think that if City of God and Perfect Blue would've won over Chicago and Titanic respectively, they would've become major controversies. I mean, They're both great films, but they just don't fit in the commercial and successful look the Academy tended to seek during those times (even our times, but at least they finally seem to be more open towards independent productions), and also the fact they're both really gruesome and complex, and like I said, against the commercial standard they were seeking. :(
I want to live in this timeline
Every now and then I blissfully forget that “Crash” won best picture. Then something comes along to remind me…
Sorry about that
watched it 4 times in school. twice in one week too.
I would love to see a video like this but specifically about which of the actual nominated movies would win based on the Letterboxd ratings
upping this idea
Yeah I thought this would be exactly this. In my opinion a much better idea for a video, because this is just a list of highest rated letterbosed movies of each year, and everybody knows most of these films never had a chance at winning.
I think I might do this :)
A small channel did this, and I did this same video concept but What If Letterboxd Decided Best Animated Film at the Oscar’s. Go check it out on my channel to see what won each year!
Admittedly the Roma loss (2018) might’ve been a bit easier to take had it been bested by Spider-verse instead of Green Book.
It's really funny to me that Gandhi (1982) was beaten out by The Thing. He preached non-violence and he lost to one of the most violent movies of all time 😆
I don't think Gandhi would be against violence if said violence was used against a malevolent being from another world that was set to destroy humanity. His pacifism was mainly political.
@@krautgazer true, good point
The Thing received negative reviews upon release. This was definitely a case of popularity over time.
Gandhi said that the Jews should have leapt off cliffs to their deaths in order to protest the inhumanity of the holocaust.
Not really relevant, I just think it's an interesting tidbit.
He slapped his wife. So much for non-violence.
50s and 60s japanese cinema just washes
I know. Someone like Kurosawa really was wasted on the Academy
Kobayashi and kurusowa rules
Beat out cleanly by the French New Wave. Japanese cinema didn't peak artistically until the 90s-early 2000s
@@kieranl5249Harakiri, Ikiru, Tokyo Story and Seven Samurai alone wash most of the french new wave
Although the Sound of Music being snubbed by Letterboxd didn't sit right with me tbh
Have to say, I almost entirely agree with Letterboxd for the much older movies in this list. Metropolis, City Lights, Double Indemnity, Brief Encounter, It’s a Wonderful Life, The Red Shoes, they’re are all timeless classics while the winners for most of those years are largely forgotten. Once you get into conversations like Lawrence of Arabia vs Harakiri it’s more just down to personal taste, but oh man some real stinkers were winning best picture in those early days.
Best Years is not forgotten, bro
I don't know, it seemed like a lot of the older Best Picture winners were directed by people that had won the Letterboxd "award" a few years prior. I never really considered how many movies people like Capra and Wilder pumped out!
There are real stinkers winning the Oscar all the time. I guarantee you, no one will remember the best picture winner of the year Get Out was released.
Don't you talk about "Wings" like that
Beautiful Mind winning in a year of Spirited Away, Mulholland Drive, LOTR is kinda crazy ngl
Spirited away was eligible the next year and won
Plus Gosford Park, Memento and The Royal Tenenbaums
@ΓΕΏΡΓΙΟΣ-ι8ν Chicago, a movie so mid even the people in it forgot about it went over it.
IT really is
Mulholland Drive was crap.
I would also like to see the other 4 highest-rated films to see what would've hypothetically been nominated.
I think what is really interesting about this is it shows how much more curated the Oscars are. Like, there were several years were very similar movies (in terms of theme, style etc.) won on Letterbox. This was obviously something that the Oscars would try to avoid. Also, at the Oscars, they give MANY awards. So a film that might be beloved and remembered today for an actress's stand-out performance, might have had her win best leading actress, but on Letterbox, it will just show as getting really good reviews. Obviously, since Letterbox is more international than the Oscars, the top picks are more international. But also, most of the Letterbox films were chosen in retrospect, were as the Oscars have to pick the best movie of the year, in that year. I found the Letterbox choices got a lot less timeless and highbrow once we hit the era of films were more average moviegoers were rating the films they had seen that year, (i.e. from the 2000s/2010s) as opposed to previous decades were it was people who were watching and rating films that had stood the test of time
Halfway through the video, and I just gotta say thank you for putting in the time to make the compilation look this freakin' good. The clip selections are fantastic.
Some of the hero worship here is predictable (Kurosawa again? You don't say...) but it does feel like the perfect list is somewhere in-between these winners and the Academy's.
Man, you gotta warn me before you put Grave of the Fireflies on screen. I was not emotionally prepared.
This showed up on my recommendations and i couldn't be happier
Japan was on fire in the 50s and the 60s
Technically, Japan was on fire in the 40s, just in a more literal way
@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 Omg
Beat me to it by 9 hours 😭😭
@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 🙏🏻😭😭 you’re evil
@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1the most cursed lmao
Goddamn, some of the years are really difficult picks. Some because both are so good, and some because I've never heard of either movie.
The juxtaposition between the two 1989 picks is INSANE
Same for the 1985 picks. "Come And See" winning Best Picture at the Oscars probably would have caused a Congressional investigation.
Having this stretch so far back in time makes me wonder whether the people who lived then would agree :) I'd love to go back in time, show this video, and ask if there's a hidden gem that got lost to the Oscar's AND lost to time
That’s a great point. I read a statistic somewhere that almost half the films pre-1950 are now non existent. If that’s true who knows how many incredible works of art we’ve missed out on forever.
@@scribblebitsyeah like my favourite film from 1927 Napoléon took decades to get reconstructed and they are still making improved versions nowadays.
There are those GOAT films that win both awards
Cool idea! I will definitely check out some of these movies
Whenever I remember the films that won over A Separation (The Artist here but also Midnight in Paris for screenplay) I experience actual pain.
I’d like to see this comparison alongside the highest IMDB ratings for each year.
Only movies that matched up
- 1930: All Quiet on the Western Front
- 1934: It Happened One Night
- 1943: Casablanca
- 1972: The Godfather
- 1974: The Godfather: Part II
- 1994: Schindler's List
- 2003: Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King
- 2006: The Departed
- 2019: Parasite
- 2022: Everything Everywhere all at Once
The Departed makes like no sense to me
@@tobi2731 it's inferior to the original Infernal Affairs
LOTR 🗿
Return of the king was sooo good that even letterboxd agreed 👑
"even Letterboxd"? you clearly know nothing about Letterboxd
I think you meant "Return of the king was sooo good that even the Academy agreed"
@@thefoxcritic1no, they have a point
@@meciocio no, they don't
@@thefoxcritic1 yes, they kinda do
the more recent it gets, the more The Oscars got it right.
I really like the variety that Letterboxd has every year. Truly feels like there is no bias towards a certain 'kind' of film.
my letterboxd tribe loves their suffering movies quite a lot
Roma and The Social Network losing in this universe too is pretty funny (although tragic)
Everyone seemed to forget how extremely impactful The Wizard of Oz must have been in 1939. I wish I was at the premiere to witness such a chock...
I was NOT expecting Your Name and Paddington 2 to be ranked higher than the Best Picture Winners for their respective years, knowing Letterboxd.
Your Name over Moonlight? Any day!
@@YannickTMessiah TSMT, and I also believe La La Land should've won Best Picture.
2005, finally getting it right. This is a really neat idea, thanks for doing this
If I understand the method correctly, Letterboxd ratings are typically given decades after the films were released. This has the advantage of insight into which films have stood the test of time, a luxury that the Oscars do not have.
Every type of community has a bias. All of them.
Yes, I see that Letterboxd doesn’t respect comedies almost as much as the Oscar.
Fascinating. Some real robberies here and some I'm on the fence about.
Thanks for putting it together
So Letterboxed loves Carpa and Kurosawa
Who doesn't?
Yeah, Capra and Kurosawa are great.
And Billy Wilder
And dislikes Miloš Forman lol
@@Inzersdorf93 He has 2 films in the top 250 and none of his other major works are especially badly rated. What do you mean?
Movies can be so powerful. Some of these 10 second clips of iconic scenes had all the emotions flooding back and brought me to tears
your name not being nominated in 2016 was the biggest snub i've ever seen
Worse for A Silent Voice too 😭😭😭
my watchlist keeps growing and THERE"S NOT ENOUGH TIME IN ONE DAY
1975 is a big surprise to me, and the Only Kubrick on the list.
Letterboxd has a weird relationship with Kubrick. He's a bit unfortunate in that Paths Of Glory has a 4.4, but it was made in 1957, and not many films are beating out 12 Angry Men
What a great idea for a video! Interesting to see what was acclaimed at the time, vs what has stood the test of time
The knowledge that Into the Spider-Verse dropped the year Green Book won will never not be funny to me. I don't even hate the movie as much as most people do, but it wasn't even in the top-half of the Best Picture nominees that year, and just goes to show how much the Academy devalues animation (something they still do considering that Maestro got a nom over Across the Spide-Verse).
They still see it as kiddie fluff regardless how good or what the audience is. It might be more disrespected than horror.
I think Spider-Verse's being snubbed for Best Picture has to do with the general state of the American animation industry as it does for the Academy's biases toward the animation medium. The fact that the industry, at least in America, is so trapped within the confides of commerce where no major studio is able to make something without having to appeal to a family audience in order to start a franchise or leverage preexisting IP doesn't do any favors for the general stereotyping of animation as anything but a commercial crowd-pleaser in the eyes of the industry. Depite Spider-Verse being a legitimately good movie, the commercial circumstances that led to its inception serve as an extension of the view among executives of animation as a capitalistic endeavor to sell product, thus wrongfully codifying the medium as product. That said, I'm disappointed that the internet's animation 'community' can't look at animation with more reverence beyond the mainstream output of the major American studios.
Kurosawa basically owned the 50's
This video idea is so good, could have been nice if you also included the Letterboxd ratings of both the Letterboxd and Oscar movies.
Edit: Nevermind, just saw your newer video with added ratings.
I didn't expect "To be or not to be", it's a masterpiece, loved every second of it
Did you know that they call you Concentration Camp Erhardt?
I don’t think there is a better side or a worse. I agreed with many of the movies featured in both sides and also disagreed with both at other movies.
honestly thanks so much for making this video, sometimes i have way too many movies on my watchlist to know where to start lol
Cool video! It would be neat if you did more lists similar to this
The way I only remember the existence of "The Artist" only because Oscar's recopilations
Stole Terrence Malick's Oscar!!
Some of these movie transitions have such tonal or environment whiplash that it's hilarious, the ones where it was mainly prominent were Shawshank Redemption to La Haine and Spirited Away to City of God.
Thank you for this video ❤
1980 having empire strikes back, raging bull, the shining and the elephant man and ordinary people wins is embarrassing
The old people from Oscar's love depressing movies. Ordinary Movie will leave you depressed so much you won't be able to stand up, breathe and do natural functions for a long time. With the Oscar's full of old people, it makes sense.
Absolutely, the Academy can be one dumb piece of shit sometimes.
Was Ordinary People Redford’s directorial debut? He had so much Hollywood clout that I wonder if he was able to get the win because of his own popularity.
@@Hunkules09 yeah and aside from the sad and depressing plot
@@Hunkules09probably. There is so much one has to do to win the award besides just making the movie from what I’ve heard.
Oscars over the years have their ups and downs for sure
I genuinely believe that It's A Wonderful Life is the biggest Best Picture snub of all time.
While I agree that It's a Wonderful Life is the best film of that year, The Best Years of Our Lives is also an amazing film, and given the context of WWII having just ended and it being the first film to really depict PTSD, it's win is very justified.
@@austinuhr8459 That's totally fair.
Have you seen The Best Years Of Our Lives though?
No way, bro. Best Years is incredible
It's a mix -- I agree with the Letterboxd picks more frequently, but not exclusively. But I was particularly happy to see PAPER MOON chosen over THE STING. I saw both movies when they came out (I was 12-13) and infinitely preferred PAPER MOON. Multiple viewings of both movies down through they years only confirmed my original early adolescent impression.
More often than not, I would probably have chosen a different film than either Letterboxd or the Academy. :)
am gonna have to watch most of these movies and then come back to you
I'm glad there are many European movies on this list. These mentioned are truly masterpieces, and there are also many more. It's a shame they don't get enough attention.
Compliments on the making and editing on this video!
Some they got right, some they got wrong. Some I would have chosen a different movie altogether.
La Haine not even being nominated to any Oscar is the biggest robbery in cinema's history.
I actually ended up liking the Oscar picks more than I expected!
Letterboxd's first BP winner to be directed by a woman was in 1977, as opposed to the Academy not having one until 2010 - but the Academy has selected two more since then while The Ascent appears to remain the only woman-directed film on the LB list. Interesting that while the LB list skews more diverse in multiple ways (nationality/language, genre, medium), it's even more man-heavy than the Academy. I'm pretty stunned that LB still snubbed people like Agnes Varda and Mira Nair, to say nothing of the more contemporary options.
That said, I'd love to see what the top 5 would look like each year for Letterboxd; maybe this changes if we look at nominees instead of just winners.
The Young Girls of Rochefort is such a fantastic film! What a pleasant surprise to see it listed here!
@@oscarsobsession honestly might be my favourite of all these. I too was shocked to see it here
Paddington 2 winning best picture would have cured the world.
The Letterbox Best Animated Features from each year would be just as interesting as this.
Wow, love to see “Embrace of the Serpent” in 2015. That movie was a true cinematic Experience.
So interesting to see this. Honestly, while the Academy can be biased, it does make you think about how many amazing films there are every year. I know for quite a few of the years I would've had trouble deciding a winner. Makes you appreciate all the artists who's hard work goes into creating amazing films
Directors who appear multiple times:
Akira Kurosawa (5) - Ikiru, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, High and Low, Red Beard
Francis Ford Coppola (3) - The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Apocalypse Now
Billy Wilder (3) - Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, Ace In the Hole
Frank Capra (3) - It Happened One Night, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, It's a Wonderful Life
Charlie Chaplin (3) - City Lights, Modern Times, The Great Dictator
Denis Villeneuve (2) - Incendies, Prisoners
Martin Scorsese (2) - Goodfellas, The Departed
Edward Yang (2) - A Brighter Summer Day, Yi Yi
Abbas Kiarostami (2) - Where Is the Friend's House?, Life and Nothing More...
Andrei Tarkovsky (2) - Nostalgia, The Sacrifice
Sidney Lumet (2) - 12 Angry Men, Network
Jean-Pierre Melville (2) - Army of Shadow, Le Cercle Rouge
Sergio Leone (2) - The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Once Upon a Time In the West
Yasujiro Ozu (2) - Late Spring, Tokyo Story
Ernst Lubitsch (2) - Trouble In Paradise, To Be or Not To Be
Fritz Lang (2) - Metropolis, The Testament of Dr Mabuse
Other directors include:
G.W. Pabst, Lewis Milestone, Ernst Lubitsch, James Whale, Leo McCarey, Howard Hawks, Orson Welles, Michael Curtiz, David Lean, Jacques Tourneur, Emeric Pressburger & Michael Powell, Carl Theodor Dreyer, Robert Bresson, Alfred Hitchcock, Francois Truffaut, Jacques Becker, Masaki Kobayashi, Hiroshi Teshigahara, Jacques Demy, Ken Russell, Peter Bogdonavich, Stanley Kubrick, Larisa Shepitko (first woman on the list!), Ingmar Bergman, Irvin Kershner, Wolfgang Petersen, John Carpenter, Wim Wenders, Elem Klimov, Isao Takahata (first animated!), Spike Lee (first black director although there's been plenty of Japanese ones), Steven Spielberg, Frank Darabont, Matthieu Kassovitz, Mike Leigh, Satoshi Kon, Theo Angelopoulos, David Fincher, Hayao Miyazaki, Fernando Meirelles, Peter Jackson, Hirokazu Kore-eda, Ang Lee, Paul Thomas Anderson, Christopher Nolan, Quentin Tarantino, Denis Villeneuve, Asghar Farhadi, Thomas Vinterburg, Damien Chazelle, Ciro Guerra, Makoto Shinkai, Paul King, Rodney Rothman & Peter Ramsey & Bob Persichetti, Bong Joon-ho, Florian Zeller, Dean Fleischer Camp, The Daniels, Joaquim Dos Santos & Justin K Thompson & Kemp Powers
Only a few years where I prefer the actual winner! Controversially, I do favor The Best Years of Our Lives over It's a Wonderful Life, although both are amazing films. I haven't seen Le Trou, but The Apartment is one of my favorites! And I do prefer No Country over There Will Be Blood.
I'm surprised by some of these picks, but having Kurosawa as the undisputed master makes more sense to me than John Ford. (Ironically, Ford was Kurosawa's favorite director! Also ironically... Ford isn't on here. At all.)
Biggest director omissions are probably John Ford, William Wyler, the Coen Brothers (my favorites and yes I'm mad), Roman Polanski (although he's a child molester so whatever), and Federico Fellini (who doesn't have an Oscar either). I am surprised that a few -- like Hitchcock, Spielberg, Bergman, and Kubrick -- are only on here once, but I'm also okay with that. Just having one is a big enough deal.
Some other omissions: as far as I'm aware, only one woman director is on the list, surprisingly in the 1970s (Larisa Shepitko). I believe there are also only two black directors on the list (Spike Lee and Kemp Powers), although there are a lot more international picks, including several more brown directors (Meirelles, Farhadi), and a lot of Japanese and Asian directors, so it's hard to pretend like this is somehow worse than the actual oscars.
On the flip side... Hitchcock, Bergman, and Kubrick don't have directing Oscars in the actual canon, but their films are rewarded here. Kurosawa was only nominated once. Chaplin was just given a composing Oscar in his twilight years. Ozu, Lang, Miyazaki, Kon... these are inspired picks. Even John Carpenter gets some recognition on the Letterboxd list! (But wow, still no Ridley Scott.) I did notice there were a lot more repetitions in the early years, which probably relates to the more limited awareness of obscure and international picks, leading to more mainstream selections. But that's okay -- I've seen most of the early picks, haha! (And they're great!)
Of course, all this is assuming the directing wins would line up with picture wins, and of course they wouldn't... but it's cool to look at. Although I haven't seen a lot of the movies on the Letterboxd list, I think it's pretty clearly a superior list.
Embrace of the Serpent mentioned, I was lowkey waiting for it 🇨🇴
Kiarostami winning Best Picture for 2/3rds of the Koker Trilogy would've been so cool dawg
2016 broke something in the Letterboxd community, it's all downhill from there. Your Name over Moonlight is nuts, then both Spider-Verses? Crazy stuff.
I like paddington 2 but its crazy that its the most for 2017
Over films like lady bird and get out lol
Get out is close second on letterboxd
Honestly get out or phantom thread should had won but im probably one of few people who dont hate shape of water
@user-dp4fq4dm7q oh I like shape of water don't get me wrong but definitely not best picture worthy imo
Paddington 2 is a masterpiece and I will hear no objections.
I was thinking Blade Runner!
Still my favorite IMAX experience!
I love this experiment, great job, great video.
My only complaint is that you didn’t include documentaries, when the Academy rules do in fact allow for documentaries to be nominated for BP and possibly win. It just hasn’t happened yet.
I wonder if Letterboxd would’ve picked one tho. 🤔
It's interesting to me how many more of these films have stood the test of time than the actual winners.
I think that is exactly what you'd expect. The Letterboxd voters weren't voting the year the film was released like the oscars. Most will have voted in the last 5 years.
i know statistically a sample of 1000 is meant to be representative of a population or whatever - but i think it needs to be something bigger than just 1000+ reviews to qualify and rank. with that said this is an amazing quality video 👏🏼
It would be interesting to see the list but with the highest rated English Language film as that is probably a more accurate comparison for the most part.
Yes ! This is so much better than the actual Best Picture List ! Metropolis, the Red Shoes, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Ikiry ... so many films I loved are on this list. ❤
I'm in team No Country over There Will Be Blood, but I can accept the two being interchangeable for best director and picture categories, both deserve it in their own ways.
Yes both are so good
No Country is better. No doubt.
If you do this again in the future, please also show the Letterboxd ratings for each film. It would be interesting to see how users rated the Oscar winners compared to the Letterboxd winners.
someone needs to make a letterboxd list of this
Way ahead of you
@@scribblebitscan I have the link
This was cool! I spent most of 2024 watching all 96 Best Picture Oscar winners and I found myself like "Yep, Letterboxd got it right. The actual Oscar winner was like watching paint dry" several times (looking right the f*ck at you, Out of Africa!!) I'm gonna have to check out many of the older/foreign films.
And though it is exclusively for American films, I've also gotten into the Library of Congress's National Film Registry, I find that is usually a better indicator of a movie's longevity and impact on pop culture than the Oscars. Plus they actually preserve "lesser" genres like horror and animation. This year they preserved the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which I was pretty stoked about.
Fun experiment in presentism. My only complaint is that the older films don't accurately demonstrate what the Academy could have voted for, as many foreign films wouldn't have been eligible that year. Many of the films were not even released in the United States until later. For Example: Tokyo Story (1953) was released in the United States in1972. Awesome movie, but it wouldn't have competed against From Here to Eternity. I'd be interested to see another version with eligible films only.
Bridge on the River Kwai and 12 Angry Men could not be more opposite in scope, but equally great in story and execution. Tough one.
Letterboxd actually has an Oscars vote for their members every year and they used to have Letterboxd Community Awards. These are their Best Picture winners.
2014: Her
2015: Boyhood
2016: Mad Max Fury Road
2017: La La Land
2018: Call Me By Your Name
2019: Roma
2020: Parasite
2021: Minari
2022: Dune
2023: Everything Everywhere All At Once
2024: Oppenheimer
It's very different than the highest average, because only highly watched movies can win an award and it's awarded in the year of release rather than retrospectively (both like the real Oscars).
this is such a good vid, nice content, keep it up!
Foreign films weren't seriously considered for best picture until very recently. Top American film each year would be a more interesting comparison.
Yeah, foreign films are nominated the year they get a US theatrical release, and only for the public, not for festivals. That’s a bit too complicated for me. I could never be on a committee to nominate movies.
I would say that’s more on the fault of the Academy for not considering international films sooner. If it was just American films, would that also discount any other English speaking films?
@@scribblebits The Academy was created by Hollywood studios to promote Hollywood films and, more importantly, to improve Hollywood's image. That was its job.
The problem is that you probably have on this list esoteric films that a few saw but loved. So perhaps try by filtering a certain amount of reviews to pick (1000? 500?).