John Peel by The Kings Own Royal Border Regiment Band played at Carlilse Castle May 1994 the last time the band played there before being disbanded due to government cut backs.
@@richardcleveland8549 Enjoy this featured march. It is well done for Englishman. If you were American, you'd prefer a civilian band of young people having an absolute ball goofing off and playing good music to electrify the stadium atmosphere and energize the fans.
Same, aye. Isn't this same event referenced in the epilogue (of the later edition)? I'm sure it was a different year though so I must be misremembering.
Magnificent and poignant farewell marking the end of yet another fine regiment with a glorious past. What a stirring regimental march "John Peel" This ex-Para had a small lump in his throat when the officer asked permission to play the regimental march for the last time. :-(
Stood there watching from the side lines trying to remember how many times we played our Regimental March. Tears flowed that day, still miss the Corp of Drums and my old Regiment to this day.
It is also the regimental march of my old regiment, The Ontario Regiment, Royal Canadian Armoured Corps. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ontario_Regiment_(RCAC)
When you were marching through Carlisle or Lancaster and you heard the first few bars, the hairs on your neck stood up and you grew about three inches taller!
I was one of the soldiers there that day. I recognise so many other soldiers from this film. When the band disappeared through the inner bailey gates, i had such a lump in my throat.
Me too. I watched the movie when I was about 12 or 13 yrs. old (a long time ago). I so enjoyed watching the scene in which the British soldiers are marching in their bright red coats and to some cool marching music. The scene was too short.
@@charlesbleile5282 Good luck to you and yours,Yank. Glad you enjoyed your exchange and I'm sure that those you served with here will have enjoyed serving with you. I was a Para, not a Borderer, but they were a fine regiment with a fine history of service, it's sad to see them "cut, " especially when one considers the various lunacies our political class squanders huge amounts upon. The Borderers have a superb and historic regimental march, too. (OK, I KNOW the US Army has great tunes, but c'mon, you had Glenn Miller to give them some zip!) :-)
My mate Ian Turnbull was in this band, I was meant to join, but joined the Cavalry as a musician instead. One lost, never to be revived by short sighted government.
So do I sir. Quick historical question for you.... in this final March at Carlisle Castle, who are the four soldiers in white breeches and why aren't they playing their drums?
It's always sad when the colors are cased for the last time. That happened to my US Army regiment, the 11th Armored Cavalry. DoD later returned the regiment to active duty as the OPFOR at Ft. Irwin. But I still remember being rather heartsick about it.
Why the Bandmaster? and not the Drum Major? Because it was the last march out for the Band. And the senior "official" is the Bandmaster. The glory went to the band, not the individuals.
Watching again . . . I can't resist a march! I have two questions, though. First, the helmets: I associate the type they're wearing with the Royal Marines, and the video intro plainly says these are another regiment. Second, what becomes of the disbanded regimental bands. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that each member of unit bands is a serving soldier, airman, marine or sailor - if that's right, are they back to permanent non-band status?
This tune says it all. From Rudyard Kiplings Kim, of Victorian India, now Elizabeth is gone. The end of an era. Now we have Trumpism, and fascism rears its head.its like humanity is being drummed off the parade square.
UK should have been proud to have this. It was something representative. It represented UK, its essence/roots/history. Did not UK afford to pay for it anymore ?!? How moronic it was to do away with it ! I'm afraid it's only the tip of the iceberg, a sign of the greater decay. What do you think ?
+so70aeiou Totally agree. The Government spend a fortune on The Arts such as The Royal Ballet, which has it's place but some of that funding could have kept this great band performing. The ballet is important but it should make more money at the Box office so that free public performances can exist alongside. The Arts should also be able to tap into you tube and The web to boost it's funds. Well that comment should set the cat among the pigeons. I await the ballet's argument which will probably say the performers pay is very high, which is also what the Football fraternity would argue, but at least the ballet and bands deliver every time with great performances.
During the pandemic, almost all of the remaining bands of the professional Army "disappeared" ... though NOT due to COVID!!! Royal Artiillery band(s) - gone, Paras - gone, Engineers - gone, Army Air Corps - gone. We ended up with the "British Army Bands" - and they play well enough, though initially only as BRASS bands - can one believe it? We have to accept change, of course, but something has been lost... [There seem to be rumours/suggestions that the same "British Army Band" might wear different uniforms to be Paras one day or Cavalry the next ... not sure if this is true. When I see them, I see only that basic Guards-red tunic, peaked cap ... looking a bit like a glorified "town band". Though the usual blue-grey greatcoats add a bit of distinction in winter. Again, it's OK, I'm not going crazy here, but... some sadness somewhere]
A tremendous performance - the emotion is palpable. But John Peel is interspersed with a tune from north of the Border (whose name escapes me) as far as I can see... Quite right too!
Few comments or likes! Typical. My Gfather served in the BR 1915 was wounded but in the 1990s I visited the BR museum and they still hadn't written up the Regimental Diary from WWI. Does anyone care? Seemingly not.
Does anyone know where the tradition of the boy drum major came from. I've seen it on some of celebrations from the 1930's and it has to be a great story.
@Joe Butterman Hi, I was a bandsman with this fine regt from 1986 to 1993, (1 year before the band was disbanded) later went to the cavalry, Band of the Dragoon Guards! We did the parade of showing the French drums every Arroyo Day (yes the actual drums from 1811 battle which even now the French still desperately want them back lol) I know the film you're talking about, in 1934 mentioning the French drum major being the youngest soldier of the Regt. That might have been the case back then, but because the French uniforms were so small, it came down to the smallest soldiers of the Regt being the ones who ended up in the parade as the French drummers and French drum major. No reason or tradition, just a case of if the uniform fitted, you were a French drummer 😅 I hope this answers your question?
@@Nathan.150 We're not talking about the same thing as depicted by Pathe & Movietone in 1934. Check it out. It was for celebrating the battle of Arroyo Dos-Molinos when the French drums were trooped.
Scarborough Paranormal The 25th (City of Edinburgh) Regiment of Foot founded in 1689 evolved into the Kings Own Scottish Borderers. Now amalgamated with the Royal Scots to form the 1st Battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotland. The Kings Own Border Regiment was formed in 1959 but the border element dates to 1881 & the Borders Regiment which in turn evolved from the 34th & 55th Regiments of Foot dating from the early 1700's.
The band didn't disband, it merged with the bands of the King's Regiment and Queen's Lancashire Regiment to form the Normandy Band of the King's Division.
@@Nathan.150 No you're wrong, they became the Normandy Band of the King's Division, and later merged with the Waterloo Band of the King's Division to form simply the King's Division in 2007. The Duke of Lancaster's Regimental band was formed in the 5th/8th King's Regiment and transferred to the Lancashire Volunteers and later 4th (V) Btn, Duke of Lancas. The regimental band in the LANCS is a reserve band, not a regular unit.
John Wignall the drums they are carrying were captured at the Battle of Arroyo Dos Molinos in 1811 a unique battle honour to the Regiment so being over 100 years old they were only paraded at special occasions such as this. They now reside in Cumbria's Museum of Military Life at Carlisle Castle www.cumbriasmuseumofmilitarylife.org/about-us/our-regiments/34th-regiment/
whats up with the bandmaster here....took all of the glory from the drum major....marched at the head of the band/drums..gave word of command and all of the marching signals....drum major did not even get to roll the mace....bit rough for him on the last parade?? marty
If this was 1994, the band was being cut, not the corp of drums. The DM would still be able to perform after this last parade, the BM would not. At least that's my guess.
There's nothing - absolutely NOTHING! - that compares to a British military band! How sad that so many of them have been disbanded,
UT band Gator Bowl. Rocky Top
@@peppertrout Nah . . . a non-starter.
@@richardcleveland8549 Enjoy this featured march. It is well done for Englishman. If you were American, you'd prefer a civilian band of young people having an absolute ball goofing off and playing good music to electrify the stadium atmosphere and energize the fans.
@@smokeyweinhandl5028 I AM American, and I'll take a British military band over an American college band ANY day of the week.
@@richardcleveland8549 A matter of taste. Enjoy whatever pleases you, it's America and we have such choices we can make.
20 years after leaving the Regiment, this still brings a lump to the throat!!!
First heard of "John Peel" reading "Quartered Safe Out Here" by George MacDonald Fraser. So glad I did. Great tune, great band, great regiment.
Same here, and it's a lovely tune.
And Fraser heard it sung in battle, if I recall ...
Flashy also sang it to Jakub Beg in the go down whilst trying to blow up that Rusky ammunition ship.
Learned about it from Len Deighton's "SS-GB" but thanks for info about Fraser.
Same, aye. Isn't this same event referenced in the epilogue (of the later edition)? I'm sure it was a different year though so I must be misremembering.
Magnificent and poignant farewell marking the end of yet another fine regiment with a glorious past. What a stirring regimental march "John Peel" This ex-Para had a small lump in his throat when the officer asked permission to play the regimental march for the last time. :-(
I was so privileged to serve with this regiment in Berlin in the early 80s. What a fantastic bunch of lads.
As a Dutch friend said to me "This is what England do BEST" It's our traditon and we are proud of it.
Stood there watching from the side lines trying to remember how many times we played our Regimental March. Tears flowed that day, still miss the Corp of Drums and my old Regiment to this day.
Best regimental March in the world
Yes it is better than British grenadier
It is also the regimental march of my old regiment, The Ontario Regiment, Royal Canadian Armoured Corps.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ontario_Regiment_(RCAC)
When you were marching through Carlisle or Lancaster and you heard the first few bars, the hairs on your neck stood up and you grew about three inches taller!
A big HURRAH for all that served with the Borderers
I was one of the soldiers there that day. I recognise so many other soldiers from this film. When the band disappeared through the inner bailey gates, i had such a lump in my throat.
I first heard this march in the 1950 film "Kim" starring Errol Flynn and Dean Stockwell. Never forgot it.
Me too. I watched the movie when I was about 12 or 13 yrs. old (a long time ago). I so enjoyed watching the scene in which the British soldiers are marching in their bright red coats and to some cool marching music. The scene was too short.
Brings a tear to your eye.
Me too. I was an American exchange NCO to the 4th Bn. KORB in 1992. I will never forget the fine soldiers of that regiment.
same my Grandad was in the band for this Regiment and RP
@John - You mean the marching?
@@charlesbleile5282 Good luck to you and yours,Yank.
Glad you enjoyed your exchange and I'm sure that those you served with here will have enjoyed serving with you. I was a Para, not a Borderer, but they were a fine regiment with a fine history of service, it's sad to see them "cut, " especially when one considers the various lunacies our political class squanders huge amounts upon.
The Borderers have a superb and historic regimental march, too.
(OK, I KNOW the US Army has great tunes, but c'mon, you had Glenn Miller to give them some zip!)
:-)
brings an ITCH to my STY
My mate Ian Turnbull was in this band, I was meant to join, but joined the Cavalry as a musician instead. One lost, never to be revived by short sighted government.
This march is my favourite it would be as My name is John Peel a direct decent.
As a UNITED STATES MARINE, I stand up and salute in tribute.
So do I sir. Quick historical question for you.... in this final March at Carlisle Castle, who are the four soldiers in white breeches and why aren't they playing their drums?
Never served in the military but
Was born in the North East.
Brings tears to my eyes.
It's always sad when the colors are cased for the last time.
That happened to my US Army regiment, the 11th Armored Cavalry. DoD later returned the regiment to active duty as the OPFOR at Ft. Irwin. But I still remember being rather heartsick about it.
my god that's grand
Best in The World!
Massive familey history with this regiment it was the border reg then and iam from Stockport
1994 marked the end of regimental bands in the British Army - now organized under Corps of Army Music.
gary brayne not true, the guards have theirs and some others
Yea unfortunately bands are changing into district bands
REMEMBER ARROYO!!!
Surprised to see the BM leading the parade and not the Drum Major!
Also playing Corn Rigs Are Bonny, if I'm not mistaken.
Why the Bandmaster? and not the Drum Major? Because it was the last march out for the Band. And the senior "official" is the Bandmaster. The glory went to the band, not the individuals.
Probably cause the drum Major had just put on a show, the band master sending them out with a bang.
The frenchies will never get those drums back!
I hope the French drums will be trooped again someday.
Natheniel Becken well the tradition is kept in the LANCS, either the 2nd battalion or 4th I can’t remember, what it’s still with the tradition
@@Coldstreamer17 2nd Battalion
@@johnnynapalm737 they’ve just been amalgamated
... Or their eagle!
Watching again . . . I can't resist a march! I have two questions, though. First, the helmets: I associate the type they're wearing with the Royal Marines, and the video intro plainly says these are another regiment. Second, what becomes of the disbanded regimental bands. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that each member of unit bands is a serving soldier, airman, marine or sailor - if that's right, are they back to permanent non-band status?
This tune says it all. From Rudyard Kiplings Kim, of Victorian India, now Elizabeth is gone. The end of an era.
Now we have Trumpism, and fascism rears its head.its like humanity is being drummed off the parade square.
UK should have been proud to have this. It was something representative. It represented UK, its essence/roots/history.
Did not UK afford to pay for it anymore ?!?
How moronic it was to do away with it !
I'm afraid it's only the tip of the iceberg, a sign of the greater decay.
What do you think ?
+so70aeiou Totally agree. The Government spend a fortune on The Arts such as The Royal Ballet, which has it's place but some of that funding could have kept this great band performing. The ballet is important but it should make more money at the Box office so that free public performances can exist alongside. The Arts should also be able to tap into you tube and The web to boost it's funds. Well that comment should set the cat among the pigeons. I await the ballet's argument which will probably say the performers pay is very high, which is also what the Football fraternity would argue, but at least the ballet and bands deliver every time with great performances.
+Peter M. Adamson History, the essence and the pride of a nation cannot be priced in money
+so70aeiou Sadly, it is though.
BRITISH ARMY HAD 69 BANDS IN 1994 NOW HAS 22 - CUTS DUE TO LACK OF MANPOWER AND BUDGET CUTS ALL BANDS NOW UNDER THE CORPS OF ARMY MUSIC.
ICEBERT
During the pandemic, almost all of the remaining bands of the professional Army "disappeared" ... though NOT due to COVID!!!
Royal Artiillery band(s) - gone, Paras - gone, Engineers - gone, Army Air Corps - gone.
We ended up with the "British Army Bands" - and they play well enough, though initially only as BRASS bands - can one believe it?
We have to accept change, of course, but something has been lost...
[There seem to be rumours/suggestions that the same "British Army Band" might wear different uniforms to be Paras one day or Cavalry the next ... not sure if this is true. When I see them, I see only that basic Guards-red tunic, peaked cap ... looking a bit like a glorified "town band". Though the usual blue-grey greatcoats add a bit of distinction in winter. Again, it's OK, I'm not going crazy here, but... some sadness somewhere]
Gotta love I video of a marching band where the video is half a step behind...
Just your wifi
#KOBR
My gran dad was in this band
Well done the REivers!!
Up the Kingos
Do ye ken john peel. The same song is the quick march song for the army reserve unit the queens own yeomanry.
A tremendous performance - the emotion is palpable.
But John Peel is interspersed with a tune from north of the Border (whose name escapes me) as far as I can see...
Quite right too!
Few comments or likes! Typical. My Gfather served in the BR 1915 was wounded but in the 1990s I visited the BR museum and they still hadn't written up the Regimental Diary from WWI. Does anyone care? Seemingly not.
.most of the records got destroyed when the Germans bombed London in ww2
Does anyone know where the tradition of the boy drum major came from. I've seen it on some of celebrations from the 1930's and it has to be a great story.
Joe Butterman all drum majors are experienced NCOS (usually WO2), so they aren’t boys XD
@Joe Butterman
Hi, I was a bandsman with this fine regt from 1986 to 1993, (1 year before the band was disbanded) later went to the cavalry, Band of the Dragoon Guards!
We did the parade of showing the French drums every Arroyo Day (yes the actual drums from 1811 battle which even now the French still desperately want them back lol) I know the film you're talking about, in 1934 mentioning the French drum major being the youngest soldier of the Regt. That might have been the case back then, but because the French uniforms were so small, it came down to the smallest soldiers of the Regt being the ones who ended up in the parade as the French drummers and French drum major. No reason or tradition, just a case of if the uniform fitted, you were a French drummer 😅
I hope this answers your question?
@@Coldstreamer17 not true. The boy drum Major is a sergeant usually the son of a drum major
@@Nathan.150 We're not talking about the same thing as depicted by Pathe & Movietone in 1934. Check it out. It was for celebrating the battle of Arroyo Dos-Molinos when the French drums were trooped.
Forward The 25th!!
25th?
Scarborough Paranormal The 25th (City of Edinburgh) Regiment of Foot founded in 1689 evolved into the Kings Own Scottish Borderers. Now amalgamated with the Royal Scots to form the 1st Battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
The Kings Own Border Regiment was formed in 1959 but the border element dates to 1881 & the Borders Regiment which in turn evolved from the 34th & 55th Regiments of Foot dating from the early 1700's.
Wrong border regiment
Bloody criminal!
Because they amalgamated it?
Brings a tear to this Yank’s eye
The band didn't disband, it merged with the bands of the King's Regiment and Queen's Lancashire Regiment to form the Normandy Band of the King's Division.
Nope it’s duke of Lancs band now
@@Nathan.150 No you're wrong, they became the Normandy Band of the King's Division, and later merged with the Waterloo Band of the King's Division to form simply the King's Division in 2007. The Duke of Lancaster's Regimental band was formed in the 5th/8th King's Regiment and transferred to the Lancashire Volunteers and later 4th (V) Btn, Duke of Lancas. The regimental band in the LANCS is a reserve band, not a regular unit.
@@Coldstreamer17 ohhh thanks
@@Coldstreamer17 I’m a drummer in the Lancs band now 😂
Are you?
Who were the Drummers in the yellow Uniforms,also why didn,t they play.
John Wignall the drums they are carrying were captured at the Battle of Arroyo Dos Molinos in 1811 a unique battle honour to the Regiment so being over 100 years old they were only paraded at special occasions such as this. They now reside in Cumbria's Museum of Military Life at Carlisle Castle www.cumbriasmuseumofmilitarylife.org/about-us/our-regiments/34th-regiment/
Good own kings #kingsownroyalborder
A very sad day for the British army.
whats up with the bandmaster here....took all of the glory from the drum major....marched at the head of the band/drums..gave word of command and all of the marching signals....drum major did not even get to roll the mace....bit rough for him on the last parade?? marty
And he got the entire band OUT OF STEP to boot! BM should have taken his place beside the right flank side drummer
@@snareplayer1 The band isn't out of step, the video is slightly behind the audio
If this was 1994, the band was being cut, not the corp of drums. The DM would still be able to perform after this last parade, the BM would not. At least that's my guess.
@@Fergus110OK Thanks All the Best from the Colonies lol aka CANADA
"ddeeeuuuugggh i voted flr boris johnson" hahaha thats how you people sound
Too bad. Socialism.
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