Thank you very much for this video :) The thing I was really missing is that blinding cloud thors allows you to keep your vipers ! I was always scared and getting shredded when trying to abduct Mass thors army
The real key here is the viper count. I think what a lot of zergs were doing wrong, especially me, was fighting with just 3-4 vipers and my energy would run out then they’d smash me.
Great video !!!! I see you have the black artefacts on the terrain, because you are using the Hybrid settings (lightmap = false) + Terrain on High or Ultra. You can fix that by setting terrain and shaders to Medium.
Ideally, yes! It's sometimes fine to not have them on hold position as long as they won't aggro into tanks or you're being aggressive. Glad you enjoyed the video!
If they opt for lower counts of ghosts only to emp/snipe the vipers, you just need to play more cautiously and not bunch up all of your vipers when going in to abduct/PB/Blinding cloud. If they instead go for higher amounts of ghosts I do one of two things: Transition into Broodlords with infestor support, or try and abduct the ghosts as well since they are also VERY expensive.
Great video! I think making more Vipers is what I'm missing. I make like 3-4, and then lose 1-2 because of mis-micro and suddenly I'm facing 12 tanks with only a few yoinks :(
Just focus on efficient macro. Play vs a.i. on very easy and practice maxing out on roachws by 9 minutes. You'll get all the way to diamond if you can do that
I did showcase a way at the end of the video which includes going into the arcade custom game Unit Tester Online where you can set up custom units/terrain to instantly test out unit interactions/compositions/engagements. It's available on every server to my knowledge.
medium graphics is best for 1v1 laddering. Also thors are very clunky. very easy to blinding cloud and trapping them while getting a full surround. glgl
The same way except you can be more aggressive with the vipers since there are no real Anti-air units there to punish them. Just remember to be patient and don't try and fight the army when all the tanks are split up and sieged while picking off units with viper abducts into range of your lurkers. Also if the terran sieges up all of their tanks closely together you can get away with a few blinding clouds and then taking an engagement.
@@Mackintac haha patience is so hard for me, even worse I lost to guy the other day with a million planeteries stacked up with siege and liberator behind it. Mech and Turtle is harder than mass bio for me. But for sure need to practice with Vipers.
all nice and dandy but what if i face a mech that sits on his 3 bases (with some helion/lib harass) and walks out maxed at 10-11min with shit ton of tanks (like 10-13) hellbats and thors. idk how to deal with that shit, hes got the range advantage over me with tanks and thors, hellbats to fry everything at close range and 10-11min push is so early that i find it hard to prepare enough army to deal with it.
If you have an incredible economic lead where you could get like 18+ broods, 6-10 vipers, as well as have some corruptors leftover for helping clean up vikings if they decide to go that route of countering. This is very good for cleaning up mass tank armies as well as the thor reinforcements that follow up. The main micro there is just blinding clouds onto the thors so they can't get any attacks off onto the broodlords with the broodlings keeping them in place. This composition though is usually not the most cost effective as right when you run out of viper energy your broods can begin to start losing the fight against thors pretty hardcore. This is especially true if they're massing thors and vikings as you also wouldn't have the viper energy to Pbomb the vikings constantly.
You destroying this mech bum really made my day.
hey mate, just wanted to let you know that this video won me a game I would've lost otherwise! Impactful even a year after release :D
It's so cool that this game is still alive
Love your vids bro. Been real helpful
Glad you're enjoying them and gaining something :)
Thank you very much for this video :) The thing I was really missing is that blinding cloud thors allows you to keep your vipers ! I was always scared and getting shredded when trying to abduct Mass thors army
The real key here is the viper count. I think what a lot of zergs were doing wrong, especially me, was fighting with just 3-4 vipers and my energy would run out then they’d smash me.
Great video and really well explained.
Enjoyable video. Great job. :)
Thank you very much!
Great video !!!! I see you have the black artefacts on the terrain, because you are using the Hybrid settings (lightmap = false) + Terrain on High or Ultra. You can fix that by setting terrain and shaders to Medium.
OOO thanks for the heads up man :)
Vipers are so essential against Terran. Blinding clouds also work wonders on bio.
Now I know how to beat it. Thanks!
Destroy them on ladder :D
Thank you! I always put produce but I keep getting stuffed by thors and Bcs. I already run roach hydra, so just go for a hive/lurkers and boom 🤯
Great video! Are your hydras on hold position when you blinding cloud/abuct?
Ideally, yes! It's sometimes fine to not have them on hold position as long as they won't aggro into tanks or you're being aggressive. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey nice guide ! What's the proper response when the oponent adds ghosts (and uses them, as it seems like yours didn't) ?
If they opt for lower counts of ghosts only to emp/snipe the vipers, you just need to play more cautiously and not bunch up all of your vipers when going in to abduct/PB/Blinding cloud. If they instead go for higher amounts of ghosts I do one of two things: Transition into Broodlords with infestor support, or try and abduct the ghosts as well since they are also VERY expensive.
Great video! I think making more Vipers is what I'm missing. I make like 3-4, and then lose 1-2 because of mis-micro and suddenly I'm facing 12 tanks with only a few yoinks :(
Excellent video! Thanks a lot!
Love your content. Just subscribed. :D
A nice combo , been struggling a bit recently - still in Silver, but not for long 💪💪
Just focus on efficient macro. Play vs a.i. on very easy and practice maxing out on roachws by 9 minutes. You'll get all the way to diamond if you can do that
very simple; press the combo alt+F4 and your toxic opponent is directly sent to oblivion
What's the best way to practice the use of spell casters outside of just in game?
I did showcase a way at the end of the video which includes going into the arcade custom game Unit Tester Online where you can set up custom units/terrain to instantly test out unit interactions/compositions/engagements. It's available on every server to my knowledge.
Thanks for the tips
great video - you should start making videos again!
Thanks for video
I have a bronze question, my overlords keep rallying to my army .. so annoying.. is there an easier way to keep them in my basse as they hatch
thx dud very useful
Why your sc2 graphic setting appears so odd? Did you adjust it to the lowest setting? It almost looks like sc1.
medium graphics is best for 1v1 laddering. Also thors are very clunky. very easy to blinding cloud and trapping them while getting a full surround.
glgl
How would you beat the version when it's mass tank instead?
The same way except you can be more aggressive with the vipers since there are no real Anti-air units there to punish them. Just remember to be patient and don't try and fight the army when all the tanks are split up and sieged while picking off units with viper abducts into range of your lurkers. Also if the terran sieges up all of their tanks closely together you can get away with a few blinding clouds and then taking an engagement.
@@Mackintac haha patience is so hard for me, even worse I lost to guy the other day with a million planeteries stacked up with siege and liberator behind it. Mech and Turtle is harder than mass bio for me. But for sure need to practice with Vipers.
If they go mass tank I’d say you have an abundance of options. But pure ling or broods will beat it.
all nice and dandy but what if i face a mech that sits on his 3 bases (with some helion/lib harass) and walks out maxed at 10-11min with shit ton of tanks (like 10-13) hellbats and thors. idk how to deal with that shit, hes got the range advantage over me with tanks and thors, hellbats to fry everything at close range and 10-11min push is so early that i find it hard to prepare enough army to deal with it.
Sounds like the core of your issue is that your macro skills need improving if the terran is maxing out earlier than you are!
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Oh shit I didn’t know about that Yamato tell
I can’t seem to beat terrans for anything right now. Just reached plat 3
But what about infestors? N nueral all his units
so when would you use broodlords
If you have an incredible economic lead where you could get like 18+ broods, 6-10 vipers, as well as have some corruptors leftover for helping clean up vikings if they decide to go that route of countering. This is very good for cleaning up mass tank armies as well as the thor reinforcements that follow up. The main micro there is just blinding clouds onto the thors so they can't get any attacks off onto the broodlords with the broodlings keeping them in place. This composition though is usually not the most cost effective as right when you run out of viper energy your broods can begin to start losing the fight against thors pretty hardcore. This is especially true if they're massing thors and vikings as you also wouldn't have the viper energy to Pbomb the vikings constantly.
This is probably something I will cover more indepth in another video later down the line.
Can we get a link to the replay plz ?
Yeah man I'll post it in my discord when I get the chance ^ (Tomorrow when I stream and open the game next)
Thors are quite imbalanced............high hp high armour and relatively fast to build T_T T_T