SWINGERS KILLERS ARE HERE ! Christian people are not the majority anymore. Look at the world our grandkids inherit! These crazy swingers and all the weirdos are now just immoral atheists people.
read between the lines, it was a swingers club of multiple cops/detectives and their wives, linked to a mass murdered, and to either abused women or prostitution, theres a big can of worms that the investigators probably knew about but didnt want to open, thats why the commenter said "dragging their feet", there were far more people involved in this crap. @@YouTree-r1w
If the police were partaking in these parties, even one, it makes you wonder if that’s a big part of why the police dropped the ball on this case long ago.
@@MummyBrowni think your right 100 percent. It makes it so hard to trust police. Lives could have been saved all they had to do is care ! Just a little.
Exactly my gosh she was panicking she knew in her heart that that night was not right 😢My heartaches for these victims and their families that are broken 💔because of this monster
I think the cop is involved. He left his car for Rex to use. He knows they weren’t playing a game when she was running outside naked to get away. Rex told NB, when he met her in public and brought up the Giglio beach killer, he said that he thinks it was a cop car that took the bodies to Giglio beach because no one would question a police car pulled off of the road there.
Rex's wife was there as far as Karen goes. She knew all about the swinging. So just How involved was Rex's wife. Swing Parties at Rex's house and his wife is clueless...That's just plain BS!
Absolutely 💯. It's people like him who end up getting cases like this solved. Persistent. Never giving up. Being a safe place for witnesses to come forth that otherwise won't because they don't want to deal with the police for one reason or another.
OH PLEASE,,john ray is a clown. mr. rex is not responsible for gilberts death. this so called new info is nothing but someone all of a sudden coming forward with this huge info.. probably being paid by john ray to say things that aren't even true.. stuff like this can let the ''real'' damn killer remain undiscovered and never be brought to justice!!!
Actually his wirnesses don't add up these witnesses account need to be scrutinized not taken at face value remember they make claims about Asa that weren't correct
huermann might have started the fire because he planned to murder that girl and then burn her clothes or something. and the cop .... taking huermanns car home?? and leaving the girl for him??? bringing her and leaving her for him to kill!!!??
@@jamesjazzy8040 Swingers dont have to be models lol. Plenty of people do it but I guess they hired prostitutes so there could be at least 1 good looking one there
True. From suburban happy husband to serial killer with more bodies being found to swinger. And rumours his family might have known about this. What next
Now they are already blaming police officers. Maybe they'll find out that Heuermann also organized parties for Epstein. Relevant witnesses can always be found. Do you remember the novel “American Psycho” by Bret Easton Ellis? The fictional serial killer in the novel was a big Trump fan. Maybe the Democrats can do something with it too...
P.S. If the story of that specific "Swinger's Party" turns out to be credible, it puts an entirely different slant on what the wife, Asa Ellerup actually knew!
I really don't know, but I feel sorry for Asa Ellerup a foreigner who lived isolated with Rex Heuremann, who by all accounts was a predatory, murdering monster.
No it doesn’t NOT. She didn’t even participate and she supposedly told the woman, that she was AFRAID of her husband, which is still consistent with what we understand. The detective the brought out the girl, is the one that there’s serious concerns with.
John Ray is a solid guy. I hang on his every word. He is not just hired as a lawyer, he is very invested is seeing justice ... this goes beyond the money for him. Great person you can tell.
@@January.Seriously?!? Wow, you never been caught out by predictive?? We all knew the meaning .. I'm sure everyone is very grateful🙄 If you feel better about yourself now, you may need more....life 🙏🏻✌️
Wife was probably swinger and after Rex , his wife and the young lady had sex, he killed the young lady, and the wife’s DNA is all over the young lady.
I’m going assume RH’s money went to his sexual deviations. The wife knows more than she letting on- most definitely not buying the destitute/poverty story she’s selling.
@livingadreamlife1428 it's not unlikely! Look how many bodies they've already found. There's more missing! Most of us wouldn't know about swingers lifestyle and their anonymity. You must be one ? 😂
@M1N1Girl007 livingadreamlife1428 isn't wrong. Many, many years ago, when I was barely legal, I went on a blind date who took me to that very club. My date told me he & his -ex he recently broke up. He wanted to visit a "Members Only" club they frequented. (I was just excited to go to an "exclusive" club in NYC. I knew nothing about swingers clubs or orgy parties... until that night. The rules were simple: Enter & Exit with the same partner. -Respect every declined invitation. -What happens there, stays there; no matter the occupation or celebrity status. -No "street-walkers" or pimps allowed. He had 1 request: He wanted no less than 1 hour before we left the club because he had just renewed his "Membership" and I was his guest. There was no requirement for "small talk" or introductions. Only consenting adults. I never forgot that place and never went back. It was too much "free interaction" for me.
To be honest I am also getting a bit of a negative vibe from the Wife. All kinds of red flags are popping up. She may well have been more involved than we know
His wife sounded rude. If I was her and my husband was arrested for all this murders. I wouldn't be hating the journalist asking how I'm doing or my kids . She knows more then she is claiming she knows. How can you not I am telling you she knows more or she might even be involved
Consider the stress this woman is under and also consider that she may not have liked the media to begin with. Regardless of if she knew anything or not the life of her family has been turned upside down basically overnight.
She was immediately upon his arrest. She was cleared. People just don’t know how to accept the results of an investigation despite the police/ investigatiors knowing way more about the evidence than we do.
I think she is a broken woman. Aka a abused woman. If she did something. He made her do it. I just don't see her as doing something like this. I could be reading her wrong. He is evil.
@@l0St03807 yeah. They found his hair and hers on one of the bodies. But she was out of town so they believe it was transferred from either in the house or from car. Crazy right!!!
@@origin-al9585Even if she was away when the murder took place, she could still be in on it, later on when home again, helping Rex with the disposal of the body... Rex is a monster, but something isn't right with that woman either..
The daughter's hair and DNA was also found on multiple victims, and she is active in the "Furrie" lifestyle, and has all kinds of super-deviant connections online to sick sexual stuff. The entire family is involved, as well as local police. This story is FAR deeper, darker, and shocking that anyone could imagine...
I’m trying to wrap my head around the idea that any swinger would want to swing with Rex. He gives off bad vibes and comes off as an arrogant angry jerk.
EVERYTHING!!!! One witness said Asa came after her accusing her of stealing her IRON!!!! Her iron??????!!!! WTF!!! Who TF is going to steal her IRON???? I keep thinking of what a witness said he said to her, “I already want to kill you, just give me a reason “. Did Asa give Rex the reasons?????? My god there is something VERY wrong here with this wife Asa. When the woman and cop left Rex’s house, Asa didn’t hear or see Rex forcing Karen, naked , back into her house??????!!!!! She was there, she knows exactly what happened!!!!
Have they found and questioned this Detective yet? How in the hell is this just ok? A Detective should be trustable. I am horrified they left her. I hope all that has happened is found out and all criminals charged to fullest extent. This is so disturbing and sick and twisted. Sure seems the Detective and Rex were working together at least for this poor girl. Complete horror!!!!
They were typical swingers. They only wanted to grab her along to have that extra girl for their game. They didn’t care about taking her back with them, or watching out for her, which they should’ve whoever you come to a party with you should leave the party with. People who leave their friends at parties are not friends and they said she was disheveled and in bad condition when they brought her so they didn’t even care about her at all.
I tell ya' it's Black Mirror S6 ‘Loch Henry’t Here’s the version: documentary filmmakers PIA and her boyfriend Davis’ mum Janet and her late husband Kenneth tortured and killed people alongside Iain Adair, and after Pia’s death and discovering his mother’s snuff films, Peter makes an award-winning documentary that leaves him traumatized. These murders became a nationwide story as press swarmed the town, but after Princess Diana died, it fizzled away. Later, Iain Adair was wrecked in the pub and started talking about Dawn, and when he was thrown out by Stuart’s dad (John Hannah), he threatened to come back and shoot the place up. Concerned, as he knew Iain had a gun, he asked Davis’ dad (the local policeman) to go check on him. He knocked on the door, but there was no answer, and then Iain shot him from the upstairs window before turning the gun on his parents and himself. Kenneth died after catching MRSA in the hospital, so Janet has always held Iain responsible. Police eventually found Iain’s “torture room” in his house, and realized how he’d been abducting people and burying them in the fields for years. After visiting the boarded-up house, Pia becomes obsessed and essentially forces Davis to pivot to making a true-crime film about the murders. Stuart says it’s a brilliant idea as it could revitalize the town’s economy, just like ‘The Waltonville Claw’, a fictional Netflix documentary about a man who ate a woman’s eye in front of her. Article continues after Stuart’s dad and Bergerac were the key to Loch Henry’s twist While the trio get started on the movie, Stuart’s alcoholic father is furious about it. He calls Davis a “parasite” and says he should stop making the film. Meanwhile, Davis tells his mum about the documentary, and she agrees to it - as long as they tell the story of what happened to Kenneth. “We were happy before we broke it all, ruined it all… the waste of it,” she says. Pia and Davis take it to Historik Productions, and a producer tells them to find a more personal angle in the story; Davis’ dad being shot by the killer and dying from an illness isn’t quite enough. She asks for something “unseen, unheard, unexplored”, so they break into the Adair house and film fresh footage of the murder room with a blacklight. Article continues after As they’re driving back, Davis crashes into an oncoming tractor and ends up in hospital. Janet takes Pia home and makes her a shepherd’s pie, while Stuart’s dad confronts Davis. “I don’t have any proof… I think I’ve always known,” he says, but Davis doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Back at the house, Janet is busy in the kitchen as Pia digitizes footage from tapes, and while she’s looking away, the video fizzles back to the recording of Bergerac they’d taped over. Remember, Janet loves Bergerac. She has hundreds of tapes. But that’s just a front: this is a tape of her, Kenneth, and Iain Adair torturing Dawn and Simon in 1997, and Janet is even wearing the red cabaret mask on her wall. Pia is horrified and barely manages to sit across the dinner table from Janet before fleeing. Janet quickly realizes what happened and pursues her in her car, but Pia manages to evade her sight by hopping over a wall. When she tries to run and cross the river, she slips and smacks her head on a rock, with her limp, dead body drifting along the water. That night, Janet leaves out all of her evidence; tapes, photos, journals, and anything else from her collection of murderous memorabilia. She leaves a note for Davis: “For your films”, before hanging herself while wearing the same mask. The episode then cuts ahead to the trailer for Loch Henry: Truth Will Out, a Streamberry documentary about the true nature of the town’s murders, directed by Davis (it even opens with a mournful piano note and drone shots). It competes against Euthanasia: Inside Project Junipero and Suffer the Children: The Tipley Paedophile Ring at the BAFTAs, but takes home the prize for Best Documentary Feature. The whole time, Davis looks shell-shocked by the whole ordeal. He’s barely present, especially when he overhears his producer chatting to an actress about playing Pia in the movie based on the story. The episode ends with him alone in his hotel room. He takes a call from Stuart, who’s buzzing about the win and the booming tourism trade in Loch Henry, but he hangs up. He just sits, sipping at this drink, wondering how it came to this.
If this man is in fact the guilty serial killer, HIS WIFE KNEW. This is satanic, putrid and evil and how would you not hear the screams/commotion or see the blood/flesh/stench. HIS WIFE AND HIS KIDS KNEW!
I agree with you. I’m not so sure she didn’t know or even an accessory at this point. The “devil” is in the details. Ask new facts and evidence emerge we will know the truth.
Shannan soul could not find peace till all the other victims would not be found... Her family attorney John Ray was never giving up to search for the true; thank you, Sir; respect!🎩 R.I.P. Shannon and all the victims!💙
I don't have to be a medium because I have an education, and am an adult. I also don't believe In magic, so now you can respond that since I amn not a wizard, I don't know anything about the afterlife (That doesn't exist). Stop wasting my time with this nonsense. Mediums can't talk to dead people because they are DEAD! Grow the hell up, stop believing in NOTHING and try to make somrthing of your life while you are still ALIVE. Finally, don't respond to my comments until you compolete that education that you sorely are lacking. @@violetsrayreikishop2
I always knew Shannon was going to be part of an exposing of a larger nefarious group after hearing that dispatch call years ago. These people are calculated.
I had the same exact thought when I first saw the case, Shannon was part of a larger darker conspiracy, a lot of folks in NYC are up to no good, I always knew Shannon wasnt freaking out for no reason.
I have always thought the killer was at the guys house the nite Shannon Gilbert disappeared. She said “they are trying to kill me” on the 911 call. I also think more than just Hauerman is involved, maybe not with the actual murders, but how he found or acquired his victims.
@@M1N1Girl007Not necessarily victim blaming. She either was on something or not however that does Not make her less credible. There are those that use it as a way to discredit people. If someone is trying to kill her, you sober up quite fast.
Thank you. Sayin such a phrase under the circumstances, she's an empty vessel. Nothingness. She's fully aware and right in the thick of it. Hollow humans...
It's weird the readings/case studies I got long ago was that there is more than one serial killer working as a team and one was in law enforcement. Child Sex offenders and sex predators have been known to work together. I pray more truth comes out. Great job Attorney Ray 🙏
@@deltabluesdavidraye”reading” doesn’t necessarily imply psychic or tarot stuff, it could be one’s reading or interpretation of the situation. better to be charitable than accusatory if you don’t know for sure.
The area is dark enough and close enough to NYC that it could just be an ideal spot for predators who target SW. Like certain areas are known to be ideal for body dumps eg The Pine Barrens, Leakin Park etc. Tbh, I'm still feeling nauseous from the title. He is so gross and creepy, I admire any girl who is strong enough and brave enough to do that kind of work, while simultaneously feeling sad for those who feel like they don't have a choice for whatever reason.
Hello growing up in Suffolk county and a resident on long island none of this is a suprise. My family are Shinnecock Indians just saying how much of a long Islander I am. So many people in high places are probably involved. I worked for Chevy, Toyoya, Cadillac and many more I had access to the DMV website back then they could have caught Rex a long time ago by that Chevy Avalanche IF THEY WANTED too my heart and prayers go out to everyone effected by this xoxoxo
These guys knew she would be at joseph brewers house. They looked for her because she ran away the first time. They tried to cover their tracks. Just a theory
9:10 I don’t think Rex was with that other guy in the basement for that reason. They were probably down there discussing what their plan was going to be with that girl.
I really appreciate everyone involved in this case bringing to light all of the these incidents. Im am very impressed Mr. John Ray. I am a big fan! Keep up the good work y'all. Michele from Knoxville, TN🎉
I think Shannen/Shannon was human trafficked. She was in a bad state and was brought to the ogre's house then left her there even after it was clear she was in distress. I think the boyfriend of the witness trafficked her and took her to the ogre's house for a sum of money and he knew what was going to happen. This might be part of a larger human trafficking ring where women in vulnerable states (just out of prison, addicted to drugs, prostitution) are killed, possibly even filmed as the ogre's porn preferences showed.
My suspicion is that what happened on the night Shannon Gilbert was in Brewers house is that he handed her or put down on his table an envelope and said something to the like “this is to take care of you and your family no matter what happens tonight”…or “hey you left this at the hotel two weeks ago I brought it back for you”….which completely frightened Shannon because she knew it was that envelope of cut up paper and she KNEW he was somehow connected to the Giant guy (Rex) who tried to get her not long ago. She was likely confused, scared, couldn’t explain to the 911 operators really what was going on she just knew these people knew eachother. I believe there is a network of certain characters who are working in tandem. They are targeting certain women who meet specific specifications meaning (home life status/economic vulnerability/intellectual capacity/ and willingness to push the Envelope) “no pun intended.” This is a well thought out and coordinated network of like minded individuals…a few of which are in law enforcement.
They were not found on the beach. They were found in the brush lands that hug the parkway which runs along the barrier island where the beaches are located.
Very weird of you to zero in on a detail that does not change the circumstances of the case. The address is the beach and specifically, what has been released to the public reads "Only the head and hands of the women were found on Gilgo Beach. The rest of their bodies had been found 20 years earlier, 40 miles away, in Manorville." So play geographer elsewhere, where it's of less consequence. My goodness. Sick.
So - When the cop swinger left after sex and switched cars at Heuermann's house, the girl that had an injury from a car accident who arrived with them was in the car he left behind, and that young girl was killed tried to run away, naked from Heuermann's house, down the street? The cop say,s "It's Just a game they are playing?" What the hell? Sickening. And this African American woman should not have left without that girl. Heuermann's wife knew what was going on too. That's why her hair is found at the crime scenes at the beaches.
No doubt .She knew or purposefully turned a blind eye when it got out of control .I will be leaving to visit my family why don't you play then instead of when we are home?
I agree with you. I've been suspicious of her from the start. I figured she very likely at least knew about his nasty list of searches on their home computers and the "artwork" he kept in his office. Edit: There were automatically so many people who jumped to defend her. I thought that was a strange way to react. Just my opinion but the sympathy seemed a bit misplaced.
1.) From the latest informations, it seems clear that Heuermann liked to „hunt his victims down“. That probably already gave him a sadistic kick. 2.) The way he was openly (at least within his circles) engaging in highly questionable behavior, it would not surprise me if he had been working as a team with a partner in crime - maybe one who was in law enforcement.
@@January. thanks, we couldn’t have figured what that person meant if you hadn’t corrected such a horrendous typo. Don’t know how you managed to figure out what they meant.
Pac her driver told her to leave so they could go home. Doubt he or pac were responsible for her death but they didn't help her either. Could not be bothered Hackett is another story He lied about seeing her that night. He called her mother and said he ran a home for runaways and Shannon was in his care. Then denied everything. He is involved
I'm so sorry for the victims and their families for certain.. and I'm not making light of these horrific crimes in anyway.. however, I have to say.. who in the world would want to swing with Rex and Asa Heuermann? DISGUSTING!
Disgust probably decreases when the other person turns the other way I suppose.. like you in yr pic. The question is how come majority of kindness advocating pics n screen names are the real passive aggressives full of negativity?
The wife's lawyers says she would have been pregnant at the time of the alleged swinging party. Well John Ray's witness says she offered her sex and she declined. This adds up.
The attorneys saying it’s made up fiction are ridiculous. There absolutely is merit to these affidavits. Why would anyone try and hog the limelight 1) coming out as a swinger and 2) admitting they slept with RH without getting paid. The whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test and pregnant women can swing. People that use burner phones are people that don’t have enough money to pay for monthly bills and equipment and people that are up to no good.
There have been instances of people trying to insert themselves into notorious cases to be close to it. For example, there was a girl back in 1999 who said she was the girlfriend of one of the Columbine shooters and was telling people online that she was going to finish what he started. After multiple interrogations, she cracked and admitted that she lied. She never even met Eric Harris and was seeking attention. Everything needs to be checked out and these types of people coming forward with potential lies can derail the case as it’s a drain on resources. Also, in this instance, why wasn’t this witness providing her statement to the task force. She could have had John Ray there with her if she needed legal reassurance.
Well if she was pregnant then that would probably be the reason why she didn’t want to take part as well. She probably only agreed for him to ‘get a girl’ to appease him.
Not necessarily. When you live with someone, you can easily transfer hair across clothes, etc. Usually happens in the laundry cycle. It’s easy for the hair of the wife to be on the husband’s clothes, which were later transferred to the victim by him.
that’s not unlikely given where a lot of these happened…people’s own hair is going to be in their homes and likely on their loved ones. that’s exactly why lori vallow’s hair paid no difference in her case. it’s normal.
She was ruled out a long time ago. The murders were committed whenever she was out of town. All 3 were. She was in Jersey and iceland and one other trip so he'd take those as opportunity to kill.
Can’t those investigator’s be charged with impending a investigation ⁉️ Well the cop she was with should be able to say whether his wife was there why would it take so long to say something this has been going on for awhile
My gf got gonorrhea from swinging, one of the men there gave it to her.. He's been swinging for 20 years and has different STDs but never told anyone now my gf gave it to her bf. Now they go once a year together to get the warts lasered off. They hold hands throughout the procedure ❤
Catch up on the FACTS here: www.courttv.com/news/attorney-witnesses-link-rex-heuermann-to-other-gilgo-beach-victims/?
SWINGERS KILLERS ARE HERE ! Christian people are not the majority anymore. Look at the world our grandkids inherit! These crazy swingers and all the weirdos are now just immoral atheists people.
No prizes for guessing why the police were dragging their feet to investigate, they'd be investigating half the force.
hes not a cop lmao he draws prints
who said he was a cop???
U are basically saying they're involved in it by dragging their feet. Why wouldn't want to put it on someone and get the heat off in that case.
read between the lines, it was a swingers club of multiple cops/detectives and their wives, linked to a mass murdered, and to either abused women or prostitution, theres a big can of worms that the investigators probably knew about but didnt want to open, thats why the commenter said "dragging their feet", there were far more people involved in this crap. @@YouTree-r1w
We all knew this !
That call from Shannon to the police is heartbreaking!
If the police were partaking in these parties, even one, it makes you wonder if that’s a big part of why the police dropped the ball on this case long ago.
@@MummyBrowni think your right 100 percent.
It makes it so hard to trust police.
Lives could have been saved all they had to do is care ! Just a little.
Exactly my gosh she was panicking she knew in her heart that that night was not right 😢My heartaches for these victims and their families that are broken 💔because of this monster
@@starr9946exactly
Sheer terror!
I think the cop is involved. He left his car for Rex to use. He knows they weren’t playing a game when she was running outside naked to get away. Rex told NB, when he met her in public and brought up the Giglio beach killer, he said that he thinks it was a cop car that took the bodies to Giglio beach because no one would question a police car pulled off of the road there.
Very possible. I know several officers that live a secret lifestyle. Such as swingers. So they could be working together.
Forget swingers, there’s literally been cops that were secretly serial killers and cops raping on the job
Rex's wife was there as far as Karen goes. She knew all about the swinging. So just How involved was Rex's wife. Swing Parties at Rex's house and his wife is clueless...That's just plain BS!
@@Leolioness44 but was she actually involved in the party? Or was she elsewhere in the house?
@@D38401 If Rex was making a fire...he was making it to burn karens clothes after he killed her...the wife might have known!
Attorney Mr John Ray kept his foot on the neck of this case. Thank You Sir for being the voice for Shannon and the others.
Absolutely 💯. It's people like him who end up getting cases like this solved. Persistent. Never giving up. Being a safe place for witnesses to come forth that otherwise won't because they don't want to deal with the police for one reason or another.
LOVE this guy
LOVE JOHN RAY!!!!
OH PLEASE,,john ray is a clown. mr. rex is not responsible for gilberts death. this so called new info is nothing but someone all of a sudden coming forward with this huge info.. probably being paid by john ray to say things that aren't even true..
stuff like this can let the ''real'' damn killer remain undiscovered and never be brought to justice!!!
Actually his wirnesses don't add up these witnesses account need to be scrutinized not taken at face value remember they make claims about Asa that weren't correct
this story is sordid no matter how you look at it. gross
huermann might have started the fire because he planned to murder that girl and then burn her clothes or something. and the cop .... taking huermanns car home?? and leaving the girl for him??? bringing her and leaving her for him to kill!!!??
@@KristinaApplegate Very suss huh..? 🤔
I know... who the hell would swing with rex huerman...
@@jamesjazzy8040 Swingers dont have to be models lol. Plenty of people do it but I guess they hired prostitutes so there could be at least 1 good looking one there
I know, right? @@jamesjazzy8040🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
This is far beyond creepy. Really Evil.
She's as creepy as him, the wife. But that woman puts her at the house with them all.
Yes, she looks like she doesn't bathe or wash her hair 🤢
Agreed. Wife knows things 😈
That’s a perfect word for the wife creepy!
Totally agree!
Right!! Her saying she knew nothing about the women. Such b.s.!!
This story gets creepier every minute
True. From suburban happy husband to serial killer with more bodies being found to swinger. And rumours his family might have known about this. What next
@@eaholder9772I don’t believe he was ever happy, I feel and I bet his peers feel he was normally a disgruntled cu*t
Now they are already blaming police officers. Maybe they'll find out that Heuermann also organized parties for Epstein. Relevant witnesses can always be found. Do you remember the novel “American Psycho” by Bret Easton Ellis? The fictional serial killer in the novel was a big Trump fan. Maybe the Democrats can do something with it too...
P.S. If the story of that specific "Swinger's Party" turns out to be credible, it puts an entirely different slant on what the wife, Asa Ellerup actually knew!
Totally - my thoughts also!
Omg you're so right 😧
I really don't know, but I feel sorry for Asa Ellerup a foreigner who lived isolated with Rex Heuremann, who by all accounts was a predatory, murdering monster.
No it doesn’t NOT. She didn’t even participate and she supposedly told the woman, that she was AFRAID of her husband, which is still consistent with what we understand.
The detective the brought out the girl, is the one that there’s serious concerns with.
And what did Asa supposedly know?
There’s no proof this couple is even being truthful plus the story isn’t credible
Thank you 💛 Vinny and guest. This guy is a monster in every sense of the word. Let's hope justice will be served. Victims deserve better.
Damn! No wonder the police were sluggish, with little interest in this case! Cops,and the Big Boys are involved...scary!
How
They weren’t involved, they go to sex clubs, they are human too.
John Ray is a solid guy. I hang on his every word. He is not just hired as a lawyer, he is very invested is seeing justice ... this goes beyond the money for him. Great person you can tell.
110% agree
Absolutely ❤
@@January.Seriously?!?
Wow, you never been caught out by predictive??
We all knew the meaning .. I'm sure everyone is very grateful🙄
If you feel better about yourself now, you may need more....life
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@@missbee3618 無奈良奈良間話🙄
Absolutely right 1000%!
I've been waiting for this update about this monster. I'm glad that more about him and his wife is coming out.
After seeing the "art" his daughter is into that whole family is a bunch of freaks .
These “Swinger Parties” would be my worse nightmare to show up at!!
Prolly not the type of guy you'd wanna let know you are in to choking. 😂
@@freddietommie8076 hahaha that is very true!
Swingers are creeps anyway...
I KNOW! DISGUSTING!
They should ban these swingers clubs.
Always was suspicious of the Wife🤔
She knew what the hell was going on in that house it’s clear
Me too
I didn't. 🤦♀️
Agree
Yep. What's really sick is she got a bunch of go fund me money, I don't know how anyone bought her victim story.
How can 3 deviant men who loved sex workers in one little area not know each other.
Easily
Easy with a large population and a high % of freaks
Bless your heart.
@@janetwilliams2835 its bless your LITTLE heart
Because there’s a LOT more than 3.
I had a feeling the wife would be involved somehow. Seemed strange if she knew nothing.
Wife was probably swinger and after Rex , his wife and the young lady had sex, he killed the young lady, and the wife’s DNA is all over the young lady.
Consenting adults swinging is far from knowing about killing people.
When are we going to find out the police officers name who delivered Karen Vergara of the killers house?
His wife needs to investigated
Absolutely 100%. She is dirty as well
RH must have had money..no reason for them to live like that..he worked yeah. But after that it was all the other thing..
This is a bombshell regarding his wife!
I’m going assume RH’s money went to his sexual deviations. The wife knows more than she letting on- most definitely not buying the destitute/poverty story she’s selling.
@@purplepopsicle9997Let's not assume it's her wish as much as habit and lack of (at least perceived) options
It looks like Asa isn’t so innocent tho’!
And look at all the people giving her money on go fund me , she owns half of whatever Hermann owns she's not destitute.
The go fund me money to the wife is disturbing.
She shouldn't be allowed to
She should get a job, like everyone else does. No free money for her!
Thought I was tripping she's gross.
If they were into swinging there got to be many more people out there that met them or went to their house. Witnesses must come forward.
That’s highly unlikely given that most swinger lifestyle participants value their anonymity.
@livingadreamlife1428 it's not unlikely! Look how many bodies they've already found. There's more missing! Most of us wouldn't know about swingers lifestyle and their anonymity. You must be one ? 😂
@M1N1Girl007 livingadreamlife1428 isn't wrong. Many, many years ago, when I was barely legal, I went on a blind date who took me to that very club. My date told me he & his -ex he recently broke up. He wanted to visit a "Members Only" club they frequented. (I was just excited to go to an "exclusive" club in NYC. I knew nothing about swingers clubs or orgy parties... until that night.
The rules were simple:
Enter & Exit with the same partner. -Respect every declined invitation.
-What happens there, stays there; no matter the occupation or celebrity status.
-No "street-walkers" or pimps allowed.
He had 1 request: He wanted no less than 1 hour before we left the club because he had just renewed his "Membership" and I was his guest.
There was no requirement for "small talk" or introductions. Only consenting adults.
I never forgot that place and never went back. It was too much "free interaction" for me.
@@tonjirucker999I feel like you’re lucky you survived that blind date. That was way too weird for a first date!
@@M1N1Girl007lol triggered much?
The wife of the killer knows more and is more involved in his illegal activities than police think!!
Cops know. They will protect their careers and each other over truth.
Exactly, she knew, but didn't care
The wife’s a pig ! She’s part of it bc she stood with the slob and covered it up
To be honest I am also getting a bit of a negative vibe from the Wife. All kinds of red flags are popping up. She may well have been more involved than we know
Swinging is not illegal but according to this witness there is more to the knowledge of the wife than she has revealed.
For an architect, he sure has a dumpy house.
I thought exactly dumpy spooky looking house.
He spent all his money on prostitutes and escorts
Hoarders apparently
It's his childhood home. Some kind of effed up attachment there.
I think he wanted to be unnoticed.
From day 1 I thought the Wife is not as innocent as the media claims. Creepy family reminds me of the Texas chainsaw massacre movie
That 911 call she made sounded like there were multiple people involved.
His wife sounded rude. If I was her and my husband was arrested for all this murders. I wouldn't be hating the journalist asking how I'm doing or my kids . She knows more then she is claiming she knows. How can you not I am telling you she knows more or she might even be involved
I agree
Consider the stress this woman is under and also consider that she may not have liked the media to begin with. Regardless of if she knew anything or not the life of her family has been turned upside down basically overnight.
Yes 100%
Right. That’s why she’s soo defensive.
Why isn’t Rex’s wife being investigated
She was immediately upon his arrest. She was cleared. People just don’t know how to accept the results of an investigation despite the police/ investigatiors knowing way more about the evidence than we do.
They'll investigate her again with this new information
Exactly
@@MummyBrownthey didn’t know all this other stuff that had come to light
I think she is a broken woman. Aka a abused woman. If she did something. He made her do it. I just don't see her as doing something like this. I could be reading her wrong. He is evil.
That hair they found on the victims (wife’s hair) dosen’t seem so innocent or “transfer” anymore. Naughty naughty naughty!!?!!!
I’m not too familiar with the case, they found the wife’s hair?
@@l0St03807 yeah. They found his hair and hers on one of the bodies. But she was out of town so they believe it was transferred from either in the house or from car. Crazy right!!!
@@origin-al9585Even if she was away when the murder took place, she could still be in on it, later on when home again, helping Rex with the disposal of the body... Rex is a monster, but something isn't right with that woman either..
The daughter's hair and DNA was also found on multiple victims, and she is active in the "Furrie" lifestyle, and has all kinds of super-deviant connections online to sick sexual stuff. The entire family is involved, as well as local police.
This story is FAR deeper, darker, and shocking that anyone could imagine...
I’m trying to wrap my head around the idea that any swinger would want to swing with Rex. He gives off bad vibes and comes off as an arrogant angry jerk.
Oh come on, I bet the woman line up around the block to get with big Rex for the night😂
@@justinhopper5941 🫣🤢🤮
They're probably no prize either. 😅
And he looks like Shrek.
I was thinking the same lol 😂😂😂who would want to swing with Rex soooo gross haha he does resemble Shrek😂😂😂
This lady is far from a victim. She knew just about everything. My gut and her actions
The wife knows everything!
They always do, same with Russell William's wife imo.
You bet she does.
She is involved as well. She is an accomplice
She might turn state witness.
EVERYTHING!!!! One witness said Asa came after her accusing her of stealing her IRON!!!! Her iron??????!!!! WTF!!! Who TF is going to steal her IRON???? I keep thinking of what a witness said he said to her, “I already want to kill you, just give me a reason “. Did Asa give Rex the reasons?????? My god there is something VERY wrong here with this wife Asa. When the woman and cop left Rex’s house, Asa didn’t hear or see Rex forcing Karen, naked , back into her house??????!!!!! She was there, she knows exactly what happened!!!!
Have they found and questioned this Detective yet? How in the hell is this just ok? A Detective should be trustable. I am horrified they left her. I hope all that has happened is found out and all criminals charged to fullest extent. This is so disturbing and sick and twisted. Sure seems the Detective and Rex were working together at least for this poor girl. Complete horror!!!!
this thing goes deep. Wonder if we will ever find out just how deep
@@KristinaApplegateI 💯 Agree! This case has cover up written all over it!
Yup
They were typical swingers. They only wanted to grab her along to have that extra girl for their game. They didn’t care about taking her back with them, or watching out for her, which they should’ve whoever you come to a party with you should leave the party with. People who leave their friends at parties are not friends and they said she was disheveled and in bad condition when they brought her so they didn’t even care about her at all.
@@livingintheforest3963 I bet the name of the swinger cop will be leaked. If I were him, I would be terrified of that
So... did his wife Asa help him? I think she knew.
I tell ya' it's
Black Mirror S6
‘Loch Henry’t
Here’s the version: documentary filmmakers PIA and her boyfriend Davis’ mum Janet and her late husband Kenneth tortured and killed people alongside Iain Adair, and after Pia’s death and discovering his mother’s snuff films, Peter makes an award-winning documentary that leaves him traumatized.
These murders became a nationwide story as press swarmed the town, but after Princess Diana died, it fizzled away. Later, Iain Adair was wrecked in the pub and started talking about Dawn, and when he was thrown out by Stuart’s dad (John Hannah), he threatened to come back and shoot the place up.
Concerned, as he knew Iain had a gun, he asked Davis’ dad (the local policeman) to go check on him.
He knocked on the door, but there was no answer, and then Iain shot him from the upstairs window before turning the gun on his parents and himself. Kenneth died after catching MRSA in the hospital, so Janet has always held Iain responsible.
Police eventually found Iain’s “torture room” in his house, and realized how he’d been abducting people and burying them in the fields for years.
After visiting the boarded-up house, Pia becomes obsessed and essentially forces Davis to pivot to making a true-crime film about the murders.
Stuart says it’s a brilliant idea as it could revitalize the town’s economy, just like ‘The Waltonville Claw’, a fictional Netflix documentary about a man who ate a woman’s eye in front of her.
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Stuart’s dad and Bergerac were the key to Loch Henry’s twist
While the trio get started on the movie, Stuart’s alcoholic father is furious about it. He calls Davis a “parasite” and says he should stop making the film.
Meanwhile, Davis tells his mum about the documentary, and she agrees to it - as long as they tell the story of what happened to Kenneth. “We were happy before we broke it all, ruined it all… the waste of it,” she says.
Pia and Davis take it to Historik Productions, and a producer tells them to find a more personal angle in the story; Davis’ dad being shot by the killer and dying from an illness isn’t quite enough. She asks for something “unseen, unheard, unexplored”, so they break into the Adair house and film fresh footage of the murder room with a blacklight.
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As they’re driving back, Davis crashes into an oncoming tractor and ends up in hospital. Janet takes Pia home and makes her a shepherd’s pie, while Stuart’s dad confronts Davis. “I don’t have any proof… I think I’ve always known,” he says, but Davis doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Back at the house, Janet is busy in the kitchen as Pia digitizes footage from tapes, and while she’s looking away, the video fizzles back to the recording of Bergerac they’d taped over.
Remember, Janet loves Bergerac. She has hundreds of tapes. But that’s just a front: this is a tape of her, Kenneth, and Iain Adair torturing Dawn and Simon in 1997, and Janet is even wearing the red cabaret mask on her wall. Pia is horrified and barely manages to sit across the dinner table from Janet before fleeing. Janet quickly realizes what happened and pursues her in her car, but Pia manages to evade her sight by hopping over a wall. When she tries to run and cross the river, she slips and smacks her head on a rock, with her limp, dead body drifting along the water.
That night, Janet leaves out all of her evidence; tapes, photos, journals, and anything else from her collection of murderous memorabilia. She leaves a note for Davis: “For your films”, before hanging herself while wearing the same mask.
The episode then cuts ahead to the trailer for Loch Henry: Truth Will Out, a Streamberry documentary about the true nature of the town’s murders, directed by Davis (it even opens with a mournful piano note and drone shots). It competes against Euthanasia: Inside Project Junipero and Suffer the Children: The Tipley Paedophile Ring at the BAFTAs, but takes home the prize for Best Documentary Feature.
The whole time, Davis looks shell-shocked by the whole ordeal. He’s barely present, especially when he overhears his producer chatting to an actress about playing Pia in the movie based on the story. The episode ends with him alone in his hotel room. He takes a call from Stuart, who’s buzzing about the win and the booming tourism trade in Loch Henry, but he hangs up. He just sits, sipping at this drink, wondering how it came to this.
Yup her hair was found on a body
They tried to say iy was a result of transfer. Biut I believe that she was also involved i some way.
@@katjay3125
@@katjay3125more than one victim
If this man is in fact the guilty serial killer, HIS WIFE KNEW. This is satanic, putrid and evil and how would you not hear the screams/commotion or see the blood/flesh/stench. HIS WIFE AND HIS KIDS KNEW!
Omg what a depraved life some people live. Ew I can think of nothing worse than sleeping with strangers that could be carrying any numbers of STDs.
Gross
Your mom probably has STDs too
Same with these BDSM sickos
Those were the choices they made. Getting drug money was more important to them than getting a regular job.
No one ask you
At first I didn’t think his wife knew anything about the murders but at this point I just don’t know what to think anymore .
Yes. It's difficult to discern. Hidden True Crime did a discussion. Asa: Collusive or Elusive.
She knew!
@@ladybee3764 I agree with you she had to know there’s no way she couldn’t have .
Get real.
I agree with you. I’m not so sure she didn’t know or even an accessory at this point. The “devil” is in the details. Ask new facts and evidence emerge we will know the truth.
“These people are trying to kill me”
Shannan soul could not find peace till all the other victims would not be found... Her family attorney John Ray was never giving up to search for the true; thank you, Sir; respect!🎩 R.I.P. Shannon and all the victims!💙
I've said the same thing about her helping the Victims before her remains find first.
There is no afterlife
@@SnarkierThan-U-Rthere absolutely is an afterlife, just admit you're not a medium so you can see, hear nor experience it.
I don't have to be a medium because I have an education, and am an adult.
I also don't believe In magic, so now you can respond that since I amn not a wizard, I don't know anything about the afterlife (That doesn't exist).
Stop wasting my time with this nonsense.
Mediums can't talk to dead people because they are DEAD!
Grow the hell up, stop believing in NOTHING and try to make somrthing of your life while you are still ALIVE.
Finally, don't respond to my comments until you compolete that education that you sorely are lacking.
@@violetsrayreikishop2
Wife knows everything, how can she not ?
I called it from the start to the idiots who were giving sympathy to this monster’s spouse. She knows more than people think.
This just gets sicker!! The fact cops are involved as well!!
There’s no police involvement in any of these Gilgo beach murders.
@@mikeh407 Is 407 your badge number?
@@mikeh407no cops are not corrupt they would never do such a thing....so many cops are in prison for corruption and murder.
He's got a strange face. But he's also got a strange side of a house. It's like a crabshack restaurant.
😂 True
Rex loved the Crabshack 😶🌫️
Where are the charges for his WIFE???? she obviously knew and was involved to a certain degree wtf
Exactly
agreed WTF!
Correct me if I am wrong, but Didn’t they find the wife’s hair on duct tape on one of the victims?
Yes!!!! His wife is inside a house when a murder victim runs out naked!!!!!!! She fing knows. Her hair is on victims!!!!!!
This reminds me of that one new episode of black mirror called ‘Loch Henry’
I always knew Shannon was going to be part of an exposing of a larger nefarious group after hearing that dispatch call years ago. These people are calculated.
I had the same exact thought when I first saw the case, Shannon was part of a larger darker conspiracy, a lot of folks in NYC are up to no good, I always knew Shannon wasnt freaking out for no reason.
I have always thought the killer was at the guys house the nite Shannon Gilbert disappeared. She said “they are trying to kill me” on the 911 call. I also think more than just Hauerman is involved, maybe not with the actual murders, but how he found or acquired his victims.
She was on drugs
@@DiddlyD-xx2ihstop victim blaming!!
*They meaning probably his wife. I guarantee she knows probably knows more information.
@@M1N1Girl007Not necessarily victim blaming. She either was on something or not however that does Not make her less credible. There are those that use it as a way to discredit people. If someone is trying to kill her, you sober up quite fast.
If She said '' THEY "
Shannon is the first person that comes to mind whenever this case comes up as I'll always remember that 911 call so very clearly 😢
Dr. Brucato makes an excellent point about victimology within swinger groups for a man who has very nefarious intentions.
No one says it is what it is when they find out their husband is a murderer. Asa knows something!
Thank you. Sayin such a phrase under the circumstances, she's an empty vessel. Nothingness. She's fully aware and right in the thick of it. Hollow humans...
Probably...that was a teeny tiny house....how do have any party much less a swingers party?
It's weird the readings/case studies I got long ago was that there is more than one serial killer working as a team and one was in law enforcement. Child Sex offenders and sex predators have been known to work together. I pray more truth comes out.
Great job Attorney Ray 🙏
Readings?Superstitious nonsense
Sex offenders ARE sexual predators. Are you suggesting they potentially team up network, and cover for each other...ofcourse they sometimes do!
@@deltabluesdavidraye”reading” doesn’t necessarily imply psychic or tarot stuff, it could be one’s reading or interpretation of the situation. better to be charitable than accusatory if you don’t know for sure.
Exactly
The area is dark enough and close enough to NYC that it could just be an ideal spot for predators who target SW. Like certain areas are known to be ideal for body dumps eg The Pine Barrens, Leakin Park etc. Tbh, I'm still feeling nauseous from the title. He is so gross and creepy, I admire any girl who is strong enough and brave enough to do that kind of work, while simultaneously feeling sad for those who feel like they don't have a choice for whatever reason.
Him and her both were just plain sleazy, and his wife knows more than she saying
Rex's wife always knew his Dark side of her husband and now this new alligations 😮😮
No wonder the cops done a shoddy job in the begining 😳
We are living amongst some truly twisted humans. Politicians included...
That cop knows what was going to happen to that girl! He brought that girl there knowing.
the FBI should be involved in this, because of police involvement
For sure
Most definitely
THE Current FBI is incredibly corrupt ..
At the very least, DCI.
So the police officer was a bisexual pervert swinger with Rex and wife.The police delivered and left a vulnerable victim to the serial killer.
Exactly!!!
Hello growing up in Suffolk county and a resident on long island none of this is a suprise. My family are Shinnecock Indians just saying how much of a long Islander I am. So many people in high places are probably involved. I worked for Chevy, Toyoya, Cadillac and many more I had access to the DMV website back then they could have caught Rex a long time ago by that Chevy Avalanche IF THEY WANTED too my heart and prayers go out to everyone effected by this xoxoxo
These guys knew she would be at joseph brewers house. They looked for her because she ran away the first time. They tried to cover their tracks. Just a theory
Why do they keep describing him as 6’4” when he was measured at 6’9” at jail?
😂 I know right!!!🤣🤣
@@MK-cc5ve heuermann is six feet nine? That’s is pretty shocking. The serial killer Edmund Kemper is 6’9”.
Asa looks mentally unwell to me
Agree. I thought that the first time I saw her.
Yes, her house and her appearance speak to some sort of dysfunction imo
She also may be a troll.
You would be too if you had to have sex with Shrek the swinging serial killer.
9:10 I don’t think Rex was with that other guy in the basement for that reason. They were probably down there discussing what their plan was going to be with that girl.
With this information, the body of the man wearing female clothing does not seem out of place.
‘Asian Twinkkk’ was also one of his searches. So that Asian guy wearing women’s clothing fits it.
@@gailainsley6939 True! I forgot about that! It will be interesting to see how this plays out in trial.
I really appreciate everyone involved in this case bringing to light all of the these incidents. Im am very impressed Mr. John Ray. I am a big fan! Keep up the good work y'all.
Michele from Knoxville, TN🎉
Things nightmares are made of ..
I think Shannen/Shannon was human trafficked. She was in a bad state and was brought to the ogre's house then left her there even after it was clear she was in distress. I think the boyfriend of the witness trafficked her and took her to the ogre's house for a sum of money and he knew what was going to happen. This might be part of a larger human trafficking ring where women in vulnerable states (just out of prison, addicted to drugs, prostitution) are killed, possibly even filmed as the ogre's porn preferences showed.
I’m afraid how deep this case really goes.
Suffolk County PD is involved.
My suspicion is that what happened on the night Shannon Gilbert was in Brewers house is that he handed her or put down on his table an envelope and said something to the like “this is to take care of you and your family no matter what happens tonight”…or “hey you left this at the hotel two weeks ago I brought it back for you”….which completely frightened Shannon because she knew it was that envelope of cut up paper and she KNEW he was somehow connected to the Giant guy (Rex) who tried to get her not long ago. She was likely confused, scared, couldn’t explain to the 911 operators really what was going on she just knew these people knew eachother. I believe there is a network of certain characters who are working in tandem. They are targeting certain women who meet specific specifications meaning (home life status/economic vulnerability/intellectual capacity/ and willingness to push the Envelope) “no pun intended.” This is a well thought out and coordinated network of like minded individuals…a few of which are in law enforcement.
I think you’re either completely right or very very close to it.
Yee of course
Plausible, but they won't investigate a cop or connection.
They were not found on the beach. They were found in the brush lands that hug the parkway which runs along the barrier island where the beaches are located.
Very weird of you to zero in on a detail that does not change the circumstances of the case. The address is the beach and specifically, what has been released to the public reads "Only the head and hands of the women were found on Gilgo Beach. The rest of their bodies had been found 20 years earlier, 40 miles away, in Manorville." So play geographer elsewhere, where it's of less consequence. My goodness. Sick.
Hes involved in shannon's death. Didn't she have a driver. What's the address he dropped her off at?
@@velcro-is-a-rip-off Lol 😂🤣 scary!
@@velcro-is-a-rip-offI think the OPs point was to explain that they weren’t just out on the beach sands, they were hidden.
Most interesting is the WIFE knew
I think his wife was involved in the murders. She also seems to be a cold person with no empathy.
I agree 💯
I agree and I knew something would come out about her like this. What's really sick is that people gave her a bunch of money on go fund me smh
@@kpstl26 You're right. Compassion may have been abused.
So - When the cop swinger left after sex and switched cars at Heuermann's house, the girl that had an injury from a car accident who arrived with them was in the car he left behind, and that young girl was killed tried to run away, naked from Heuermann's house, down the street? The cop say,s "It's Just a game they are playing?" What the hell? Sickening. And this African American woman should not have left without that girl. Heuermann's wife knew what was going on too. That's why her hair is found at the crime scenes at the beaches.
Are we still Going with the wife had no idea ?
No doubt .She knew or purposefully turned a blind eye when it got out of control .I will be leaving to visit my family why don't you play then instead of when we are home?
Why did the taxi driver not report the first situation to the police?
Stop 🛑 I can’t believe anyone would want to swing with Rex and his wife 😮
It’s a rather repugnant thought. Clearly more sickos in this world than credit was goven
Just like I thought the wife knew.
That house makes 1313 Mockingbird Lane look like Monticello.
😂😂😂
I never believed his wife was innocent and didn’t know anything about what was going on. I pray for justice.
I thought the same after seeing one photo. Bad vibe and looked mean
I agree with you. I've been suspicious of her from the start. I figured she very likely at least knew about his nasty list of searches on their home computers and the "artwork" he kept in his office.
Edit: There were automatically so many people who jumped to defend her. I thought that was a strange way to react. Just my opinion but the sympathy seemed a bit misplaced.
@@NikkiC777 …..yes!
I’m glad that you’ve decided monsters never abuse their wives.
@@GenderLoin ….. I know what that is! Been there.
1.) From the latest informations, it seems clear that Heuermann liked to „hunt his victims down“. That probably already gave him a sadistic kick.
2.) The way he was openly (at least within his circles) engaging in highly questionable behavior, it would not surprise me if he had been working as a team with a partner in crime - maybe one who was in law enforcement.
Sounds like the NYPD are involved as well.
So this girl just got out of jail and this cop picked her up? 🤬mind blown
They prey on the weak and vulnerable. It's a sick society.
RH was probably burning Karen’s clothes
I believe John Ray and his clients. Thank you for all that you do 💝
The wife needs to be charged as well
Oh, how comforting “youre gonna be okay, youre with a cop” 🙄
How is an anonymous affadavit lady trying to "hog the limelight"?
Right, I bet all of the opther anonymous affidavit ladies are jealous.
*affidavit
@@January. thanks, we couldn’t have figured what that person meant if you hadn’t corrected such a horrendous typo. Don’t know how you managed to figure out what they meant.
@@Justme_1221 無奈良奈良
@@Justme_1221葉鞘間話藁間話藁良菜
I believe Heuermann's wife was well aware of the goings on in the house.
Can’t convince me his WIFE didn’t know anything at all 👀
John Ray is a rare lawyer I actually love.
YOU GO JOHN!!! Good luck and God bless!!
Dear Dr. Brucato, much love for the hard work you do!!! 💚💙💜🩷🩵
I’m curious to know if anyone has been able to discern the male voice heard during the Shannon Gilbert’s call to emergency services.
Yeah! I WONDER about too!
Joseph b the client wanted her to leave his house.
Pac her driver told her to leave so they could go home.
Doubt he or pac were responsible for her death but they didn't help her either.
Could not be bothered
Hackett is another story
He lied about seeing her that night.
He called her mother and said he ran a home for runaways and Shannon was in his care.
Then denied everything.
He is involved
I think he was involved with the dirty cops. This is the most disturbing case so far 😳 interesting it went so long.
I'm so sorry for the victims and their families for certain.. and I'm not making light of these horrific crimes in anyway.. however, I have to say.. who in the world would want to swing with Rex and Asa Heuermann? DISGUSTING!
No one! That's why he had to just take beautiful girls that would never otherwise give him the time of day!
What kinda pervert swings is the question?
@@deltabluesdavidraye Swinging is perversion.
Disgust probably decreases when the other person turns the other way I suppose.. like you in yr pic. The question is how come majority of kindness advocating pics n screen names are the real passive aggressives full of negativity?
@@hil4966 maybe worry about your own life… people who think all swinging is perversion are just boring people. 🎉
The wife's lawyers says she would have been pregnant at the time of the alleged swinging party. Well John Ray's witness says she offered her sex and she declined. This adds up.
That's a crazy story... If that's true, it is a whole new case starting now.
The attorneys saying it’s made up fiction are ridiculous. There absolutely is merit to these affidavits. Why would anyone try and hog the limelight 1) coming out as a swinger and 2) admitting they slept with RH without getting paid. The whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test and pregnant women can swing.
People that use burner phones are people that don’t have enough money to pay for monthly bills and equipment and people that are up to no good.
There have been instances of people trying to insert themselves into notorious cases to be close to it. For example, there was a girl back in 1999 who said she was the girlfriend of one of the Columbine shooters and was telling people online that she was going to finish what he started. After multiple interrogations, she cracked and admitted that she lied. She never even met Eric Harris and was seeking attention. Everything needs to be checked out and these types of people coming forward with potential lies can derail the case as it’s a drain on resources. Also, in this instance, why wasn’t this witness providing her statement to the task force. She could have had John Ray there with her if she needed legal reassurance.
@@courtney_1334🎯 This is exactly what I was thinking when I was listening to him. He seems to have really inserted himself in this investigation.
Well if she was pregnant then that would probably be the reason why she didn’t want to take part as well. She probably only agreed for him to ‘get a girl’ to appease him.
Remember when they found the Killer’s wife hair on the body of many victims. The wife is involved. She not only knew. She is somehow involved.
Not necessarily. When you live with someone, you can easily transfer hair across clothes, etc. Usually happens in the laundry cycle. It’s easy for the hair of the wife to be on the husband’s clothes, which were later transferred to the victim by him.
that’s not unlikely given where a lot of these happened…people’s own hair is going to be in their homes and likely on their loved ones. that’s exactly why lori vallow’s hair paid no difference in her case. it’s normal.
Why is the wife not being considered an accessory?
Humm
She was ruled out a long time ago. The murders were committed whenever she was out of town. All 3 were. She was in Jersey and iceland and one other trip so he'd take those as opportunity to kill.
Because she is not a suspect and did not participate in the crimes…
@@TheCandiceWangher hair on some of the victims says it all .....the trios away are a smoke screen ......shes involved ....big time
@@madisonbaxter9906 ur deluded ..shes part of his monterous crimes ..are u a fan of hers ??? Fool
Can’t those investigator’s be charged with impending a investigation ⁉️ Well the cop she was with should be able to say whether his wife was there why would it take so long to say something this has been going on for awhile
It's impeding an Investigation. 🙂
That story is most likely not true.
Impeding, not impending, no ‘n’
Rex H had accomplices, maybe even his wife
Away from his wife and adult kids? Ugh
The wife knew everything.
@@chicfini😳😳
I been saying this since day one
@@chicfini this has been a real turn of events 😨😨
Don't be a swinger
Exactly! Its disgusting!
🤦🏻♀️
@@stacyshaw72🤦🏻♀️
It’s the serial cheaters way of having a relationship.
My gf got gonorrhea from swinging, one of the men there gave it to her.. He's been swinging for 20 years and has different STDs but never told anyone now my gf gave it to her bf. Now they go once a year together to get the warts lasered off. They hold hands throughout the procedure ❤