It’s terribly sad all of these victims but to think a woman went missing with a toddler and no one has come forward to identify her even with a visible tattoo is incredibly sad. 😢😢😢😢😮
There was an article in October of 2022 with the following info. "The FBI is expanding its search for answers in the murders of two people whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach - a search that now will extend all the way to Alabama. The Mobile Police Department says the agency is looking for family members of Elijah "Lige" Howell Howard, who died in 1967. The police department believes his relatives may be able to help identify Jane Doe who has only been known as "Peaches," due to the peach tattoo on her chest, as well as her toddler. The bodies of the mother and child were found in Gilgo Beach in 2010." I have searched but found no follow-up to this article but that had to be something to do with DNA
I am hopeful that since the Golden State Killer was caught, and how he was finally identified and caught, might also be used to identify the unknown identities of the victims.
Someone just said in comments that the woman and child have been identified. I don’t know if that’s accurate, but I hope so! I still think the Asian guy dressed as a woman was also tricking and maybe the police chief got that one. He did do something to thwart the investigation.
I'm not sure why the reporter speaks about using a car to dump the bodies. Rex was a duck hunter, he used these waters and would understand all the hiding areas where you could do anything. Sure it's dark but there is something called moonlight. Rex's house is a hoarders shambles, his home life would have been complicated and from video I've seen of his wife & son it certainly wasn't a 'normal' home. Rex's other hidden life amongst the chaos may have been his escape. A thing to do where he was in control vs an environment he had no control over. And here is a huge man who couldn't finish eating his Pizza. It's all sad and strange
Although one can feel sympathy for the wife and kids, let's be clear: that shack was filled with clutter, hoarding, and with all due respect, she needs some serious mental help, clean herself up, and at least wash and comb her hair. Suspect major depression and denial. Given the state the shack was in, and the charges, they have no basis really to complain about how LE left the house. Denial means on some level she may have known something amiss, but depression and denial.
Exactly a duck hunter, you see how long it took to find them. He knew it to. You wouldn't walk into that area of the beach it's to much brush ,birds nest in them.
I'm happy these families will be getting closure and hopefully some peace. I felt so bad when Shannon's Mom was murdered 6 yrs later by her own daughter who was schizophrenic. It's all so sad.
Yes so very cruel and just a heartbreaking fate. Seems as if some pll are doomed more than others, for what reason so ever...What happened to Shannons mom is unspeakably tragic, RIP Shannon and mom.
Ive driven this road a countless number of times. Ocean parkway is not busy and not well lit late at night. It's also not an area you would walk regularly. The parking lots and beach are to the south of the parkway and only brush and marsh land are to the north. Its very likely the bodies were left and there would be no witnesses, even in summer.
@Lorielle2790 no service road, just a very long east/west road. 2 lanes in each direction with a grassy or brush covered median for most of it. Some areas have beach homes on the north side with additional roads for access.
He is a duck hunter. It's been reported that he had dozens of gun permits for duck hunting. This is certainly how he disposed of the bodies, wrapped in camouflage burlap and dumped off of a boat.
Most definitely all victims were murdered in a private setting - his tools accessible!! FYI… Davis park, Fire Island, NY - Karen Vargata 1996 - her legs, feet found in a black bag on the bay side, not ocean side! Davis Park is only accessible by boat / ferry! Her skull was found WEST near Tobay beach, which is much closer to Gilgo beach, Ocean Parkway. The Gilgo beach area where the burlap wrapped bodies were found, is a long stretch - miles of bay side thickets,not the ocean side. Late at night absolutely pitch black for miles. He knew where & what time he could pull his truck over, and walked the burlap body’s into the thicket quickly, no cars - no one would see this. Horrific monster!
It's repulsive. To think the area had to live in fear like they did. I remember living in Galveston during hurricane Alicia (1983) and I was terrified of the serial killer that operated in Galveston County.
Doesn't take a genius to understand that most likely, it was the same serial killer. He just changed his methods. The guy grew up there. He knew the area very well.
The lady brought in as expert offers absolutely nothing, Ive seen her 3 or 4 times commenting on this case, she's offered zero insight everytime, and she will be getting appearance pay, a crime committed in front of our eyes.
Vinnie, just wanted to thank you for all your hard work! Your questioning is most valuable and amazing!, your team as well . Thank you for bringing awareness to all of us, victims and their families! People, as myself , have a very hard time understanding what in the world is going on , DAILY! I do not know the statistics, but I would not doubt for one moment it is minute by minute! Glad to have found you here on truth / crime etc.. ! Bless you Vinnie! Thanks again , Tammy
It makes sense to me that the old police chief is responsible for the remaining victims. Or at least some of them. What else could explain him refusing fbi help. Maybe he doesn't want anyone investigating to find out what he's done. Maybe Rex came along and ruined everything for him.
Yes indeed a good point. Investigations from the very start after finding all these bodies were unprofessional and incomplete for some reason. How would any reasonable police chief refuse help from the FBI in a huge case like this. If he didn`t have anything to hide....
Well, he won’t have a great life in prison, but he’ll get his three square meals a day, a little exercise, tv watching and maybe even get to write a book. It’ll be a lot better life than his victims will have.
All these women were so beautiful..it makes me sick..this person looks like he has no soul in his photographs. He hasn't been proven guilty yet, but, everyone be careful..who knows how many people were involved in these crimes. Rex must be one manipulative hateful person..hard to live with I'm sure. Sorry for his family.
The lady that called 911 after going to that millionaire house and said that someone was after her.. she was right.. he hunted her down is why they were trying to put her out of his house.. that huge man was waiting for her and her driver was paid to leave her..there were other men there that night one saying she looks like a man but they plotted on her and she wasn’t crazy she didn’t want to leave out of the house with that huge man..it was him she was afraid of.. it all makes sense now.. rip to them all!
@@lovelyqueen8999 I also think that night there was a "hunting party" present. Poor Shannan said - THEY are trying to kill me. And someone appeared that she did not know, she said - Who are you? And - How do you know my name? I find it unbelievable that her death was ruled an accident. Stinks of a cover up to me.
Bc he has none. When their eyes go black of dissociation, or of maximum rage and the psychopath wants to influt pain, punish, you see their true self, and you stare straight into their non existing soul, their void, their schizoid deeply disturbed core of emptiness.
I get not being able to identify an adult, peaches, but that missing toddler. Did no one miss the toddler & the mom together? Please get them solve these unknown victims.
That is something that is bothering me too. I thought I read something about "Peaches" possibly being tied to someone in Georgia but I don't know if it was just a theory because of the tattoo or them attempting to trace her DNA. The toddler is even harder to believe but if the family didn't know about the child which is possible that could be why. Sadly, some families don't care about other members that they think are on drugs. There are also families that disown people because of their sexual orientation which could be the case with the Asian male in women's clothing. I don't how people can be so heartless but it happens. That's what I want to know too. Are they even trying to identify these people? I wish they would say something about that but this new task force is tight-lipped about things which served them well so far. That toddler bothers me more than anything. poor baby, the killer didn't even have enough compassion to leave that baby with her mother. Not that I except compassion from murders but still.
I was thinking Peaches was tied to Georgia but it is Alabama which is next to it. From an October 2022 article that didn't seem to go any further. The FBI is expanding its search for answers in the murders of two people whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach - a search that now will extend all the way to Alabama. The Mobile Police Department says the agency is looking for family members of Elijah "Lige" Howell Howard, who died in 1967. The police department believes his relatives may be able to help identify a Jane Doe who has only been known as "Peaches," due to the peach tattoo on her chest, as well as her toddler. The bodies of the mother and child were found in Gilgo Beach in 2010.
@Lorielle2790 I totally agree & understand about people not having family. Can be many reasons. Even maybe she didn't want to have contact w them. Just wish she would have had a friend or someone who was close enough to not only know about the tattoo but that she went missing. Sex workers should always have SOMEONE to check in with. good to know this task force is really doing their job & does care as they just named miss vergata/Jane doe 7. They just waited to tell us til her family knew & Rex was arrested. I think they're going to really get everything they can figured out.
@Lorielle2790 that's interesting, I didn't know about the Mobil connection. I bet that's thru DNA. Also, about what you said about the toddler. I know sometimes John's will tell sex workers just bring the kid when they say they can't do the date bc they can't find a sitter. What's always worried me about them being seperated was if he kept the poor kid after the mother died. Which is Rex is connected, with his internet searches, wouldn't be too far fetched. I feel like he is connected. And just changed his ways of disposal once either he couldn't do it any more or he didn't feel he had to, and had found a good dumping ground since none of the body parts were being found there but parts were being found elsewhere. Also, there has to be a 3rd place, where the rest of vergatas located. And I'd bet it was used after the gilgo was found (if he is connected) Sorry for getting off topic.
@@mobileasaurus Thinking about the toddler, she is found next to Valerie Mack. That kind of makes me wonder if Peaches knew Valerie Mack. Maybe Valerie was watching the child so Peaches could handle her business, then the animal goes back for them in case they knew anything. It would explain why the mother and child aren't found together. I just don't think a serial killer could "enjoy himself" with a baby around. It's a possibility anyway. Yes, it had to be DNA that led them to the guy in Alabama but I don't think it is a close match, maybe a cousin and that's why they are having a hard time
they cant just go arrest someone without proof because then he will get set free and stop doing it. They need solid proof and it sounds like they have it now.
I think that the police captain that went to jail, he knows more than what he let the investigator to believed, because why he will stall with the investigation and even interfered with the investigation. why?
As a local, let me just say that while Gilgo Beach and the area they are talking about is quiet and overgrown, its almost like these things took place in plain sight. Jones Beach State Park is nearby, and attracts millions each year, but there are very wild areas near there. Bags of drugs occasionally wash up there. I would also say that people think they are safe in massapequa and this area, and there is an underlying arrogance and racism in this area, especially massapequa. He probably would have been caught if he was black or hispanic. This area is very beautiful.. it doesnt happen very often.
I was waiting for someone to be honest about that area. I picked that up. They seemed to think that their 'lily white' area was safe. All that 'not this neighborhood' nonsense. Thanks for your honest input.
@@StompingRabbits Even the reporting of this case is racist. None of the news reports are portraying any of the Gilgo 4 as black women. 🤬 Or maybe it's too early for that? 🤔 We may have to wait until the Netflix documentary before they right this wrong and provide proper representation.
I always wondered if that marsh would have stunk without those bodies there. Sea air and that kind of land can smell badly when the tide brings sea life in and tide out. Muddy wet, plant life smells. It was incredibly remote.
There is a recording of Shannon and they know the address, listening to her it appeared to be more than one person. What happened to police work that discovered the recording, checking out all the details. Surely there must have been huge suspicion after hearing that
The driver aka pimp was clearly in on it, got a bigger sum for including killing her. He said 'go back', to her. She 'no, they're trying to kill me' and 'Why did they know my name? Why did you tell them my name?' She knew, he'd broken the bounderies, given them her name, clearly afraid now of both the driver and 'them', probaly sex/murder party. She seemed drugged slurring etc since someone drilled a hole in her neck and also why scared and 'they try to kill me', and fleeing. Hence the irratic behavior, running away from orher neighbours etc. No drugs in her system at autopsy etc
@@turmoil3161 it's irresponsible, not doing their job saving lives, preventing them to do it again, it's upsetting to say the least. In that case, that police chief was probably in that sex/torture party and ehy the cover up. That driver knew, was in on it.
@@dianemasterson2132 'be in protective custody'? They found her Dead, in the area behind the house, with a whole drilled in her neck? And the police wrote it off as an accident, not even investigating it?! Are you drunk?
@hebbedadicefakkinmasta2676 anyone who believes the convoluted thinking by former NYC elected to the highest office ... absolutely needs to hide. Details are going to be uncovered soon. Do a search on Jared Kushner and Baltimore. I can not believe anyone who breaks the law does so with conviction. There is a reason for everything.
Would it not make sense that the DA's office has some idea where these girls were murdered, based on evidence found with/on their bodies? I'm also interested in learning of any connection to unsolved murders in SC/NC.
So just ac random thought. I don't know if anyone else has had. What if Shannon in trying to get away stumbled into the Lisk and maybe caught him off guard doing shat he was doing? It could explain why she wasn't left the way the other woman were. She saw too much. He wasn't prepared with his kit for lack of better words. He couldn't let her go and that was why. Or something totally different like. We know both Rex and Dr creepy were into young girls ( sickos) What if they knew each other from being the common interest and all. There is too much going on at that scene at the exact same times . Would it be beyond this two .. " men " to hire a young girl have his way with her and give me likely sell this child to b the killer? Such a small area them both v being b users of young woman ? Sorry if I'm rambling. It's just feeling you get when there are too many coincidences. Too many paths in one area for them not to cross somewhere somehow.
Well, she was found in the neighborhood where she was last seen and Rex does not live there. I think it is much more likely that someone from the neighborhood who wanted to shut her up followed her as she tried to hide in the marsh and killed her. From the info back then some of the men in the area, including James Burke who was the police chief that was arrested for assaulting a suspect who found porn and sex toys in his vehicle were at some of these parties. I somehow doubt Rex had any involvement in what happened to Shannon. He seemed to be very guarded about his activities because he wanted the outside world to see him as a respectable citizen. I mean, just look at those pictures from the court, he was beyond livid that he got caught. I doubt he was buddies, but that's just my gut feeling. Apparently, the guy who hired her that night, the doctor, and Chief Burker were all cleared of any involvement but that was back then. I do wonder if the new task force is reviewing that because of the corruption back then. To me, the easiest option is usually the one and I think someone in that neighborhood went after Shannon or called someone to do it. This is how rich people operate. To me, that's very logical and they could also be responsible for some of the others. I mean it isn't like Rex was the only local scumbag who could have thought Ocean Parkway was the perfect place to find a body but normally they would want to put a little distance between them and the bodies. With Shannon, there was no time and it was too risky to transport her body and dump her along the highway because it was normally quiet but it was not that night because she called 911. They would have risked being caught by someone that was not in their pocket. I think the doctor had cameras but that footage was not asked for, why? By the time anyone asked for that footage it was long gone. I think you are somewhat on the right track but thinking a little more complicated than the most likely chain of events. If Rex was there that would be the most bizarre chain of events ever and it does not seem like she ever left the neighborhood, if she did escape the neighborhood no one would have brought her back
I think she did take something in that house and maybe was acting erratically. Then ran from the house and ran into him somehow. Maybe he was burying someone or back visiting the bodies.
@Lorielle2790 good points. The area is full of affluent people who just want to take their yachts to Florida or on the bay. Bottom line is the phone Shannon was using could have been put into airplane mode once she got to the neighborhood thus squashing any communications to the emergency services provider. Otherwise, she got away, but how? If people living in Oak Beach Association were in the pharmaceutical industry, promoting schedule 2 narcotics was basically legal, paying their bills. Booze built America, now narcotics build America. Not to mention allowing the no tell motels to fall into decay and become shelter for drug users and prostitution.
The first set of ladies were found by accident. A K9 officer stayed in his vehicle while he let his dog out to potty! The K9 dog found the first set! They were not looking for these ladies!!
More than one ...when she called 911 she said they are after me!!! ..... means more than 1 !!! But I think more than 2 or 3 ...to make sure it will be no evidence for their crime !!!!!! I think the victims were taken to the beach and killed there ...before to to be burried....as I think May be in other car after been strangled ..
I agree that someone else might have been involved in Shannon's murder. In the 911 call it sounds like she said "you're a part of this too" or something to that effect. I infer that she was talking about someone right there when she made the call that she had trusted prior to that moment of realization that "they" were after her to kill her.
@@willowwillis7374 Absolutely more than one person. Someone appeared she had not seen previously, she asked - Who are you, and How do you know my name?? Poor Shannan must have been so terrified, trying to run with nowhere to run. She turned out to be the hero though, thanks to her this horrific story is unraveling.
Crime scene? Original truck he gave to his brother and replaced new 4 himself As architect it is possible he has access to: Job sites Barter payment via mutual access He like storage units - check alter names, emails, burner phone IDs Units he rented short term, left empty & abandoned Interview mentions carpentry furniture making - needs workshop Possible he owns boat , RV, bomb shelter, boat house. Maybe someone important(corrupt police, etc.) Owe him?
It's a long strip which at night is very desolate. I drive it in the summer time to get to the beaches nearby but you would never catch me driving it after sun down cause its lonely, dark and eerie. I always thought if you get stranded there at night you may meet some unwanted company.
It's probably his 'souvenir spot' bc ouger got rejected by some petit brunette hazel green eyes once on one of them beaches, him getting off of the control he feels of killing them and knowing they're there. He tried to change his MO to dismember and scatter but couldn't help himself, got the head of one of them and put it cliser to the favourite spot. Their bodyparts were his mementos, souvenirs.
I have been wondering, if these general areas were searched repeatedly over the years since the discovery of all these bodies. Who is to say that this killer didn’t kill more and placed the bodies in the same general area?
My friend was lucky she has a interview with that guy pretending that he was a model agency,she was very new in the city and she said i dont have money annd i am not familiar with long Island, she told her don't worry,I will get the tickes snd he did.,when she told me ,I told dont go it could be a tramp,she describe the guy and its the same like this, she tooked her picture to show him for the model agency, he start talking about his parts them i told her, not body in any agencies never talk that way,lucky that she listen to us.
Hard to believe nobody reported the smell. One body is bad enough but several would be noticably rank. That close to the road, surely it was noticed. Glad I left the north for Georgia over 40 years ago.
Psychopaths are big, also wouldn't surprise me if he has an XXY combination; big, agressive, androgonous with female features such as round hips for a male etc. Has probably been rejected at a sensitive age by a petite girl, brown hair, green/blue eyes, uncertain about his own gender belonging,, the size of the victims, petite, the childsize doll, plus searches on IN all points to phaedofilia
Ocean Parkway, at the spot where these bodies were found, there is not much traffic at all, and virtually no pedestrians. There is no parking permitted for MILES in either direction, which is why people don’t think of it as beach ‘territory.’ It is not swimmable - it is between Robert Moses Beach and Jones Beach, some empty 10 + miles stretch of no parking, no beach access, no lights, and rarely traversed road. Even now, rarely traversed.
It's highly unlikely, there's more murderers than one. The dismemberment's probably for practical reasons, together with evolved fantasies, and enabling him to use the parts as trofés, memorabilia, also changing MO to confuse the investigators
He tried to scatter some of them but couldn't resist the urge to use this dumpingsite, and brought back one of the sculls to the site of choice. It giving him the sense of power and control to own them where they were. The ultimate control to have over any other person is to kill them, and he takes it one step further by controlling their bodyparts aswell as extended and prolonged control via their familymembers, stalking them, calling them with the function of emotional sadism and control.
I would like to know why there is not one single camera on that long arse stretch of road that runs along the water front. We have been living in the surveillance age for quite some time now. And there still isn't one today right ? You're finding dead bodies out here HELLO.
I find it interesting, that his wife, stoped tweeting, at the exact time, they found all the bodies, april that year and reckless, to not even have intervjued her yet. If she knew or not, she can give wittness of changes at home, his behavior, temperament etc
@@das_loewenmaeulchen source is I found her twitteraccount and sa her last posts that indocated she was on iceland and/oe commented on the colcano outbreak there etc and then everything stopped, not one more tweet since.
One thing I find very telling. It didn't take Rex's wife more than a moment to file for a divorce. She said she thought he was leading a double life. It appears to me that she believes he is guilty. Hmmm...why? What does she know?
It's got nothing to do with any of that but solely a legal step to protect the assets, the house etc bc otherwise it'll get confiscated and sold to pay off things for the damage he's done etc paying the cictims etc If divorced they can't confiscate the whole house she and the children live in. It's an economical and practical step
I bet there is a graveyard in his back yard. And exactly I bet those bodies were scattered out there way after they were murdered and murdered elsewhere. And that crooked cop probably had something to do with this mess.
There are ZERO, and I mean ZERO, cars driving through there late at night. 2, 3, 4 in the morning. I used to go to Jones beach all the time in my younger days. It's a straight road. So even in the very, very remote possibility that a car would be driving on it at those times, you can see it from several miles away in either direction in that total darkness, giving him plenty of time to make it back to his car. Dumping those bodies could not have been easier using a car. At minimum, each of the Gilgo 4 were killed at his house and then dumped there by driving them there.
i think for starters theirs some sort of coverup with law enforcement they knew of Rex years ago but put this whole thing on the back burner. I think long islanders deserve to know how deep this goes. The house that shannen was at that night sounds like a good place to start
before rex got caught, it was the local police chief himself, a known pervert, who was considered the killer. Every theory said the killer was either a cop or had an understanding with them. There are stone cold evidence from over a decade back that cops ignored.
@Evil : Interesting question. If they don't it would be good to make that a law in every state here in America. I know this toddler was found near the mother in this case but it wouldn't be a bad idea to take the dna of children early on. Maybe they should take everyone's dna from birth on, I know that the idea would make many people uncomfortable though..
@@marianmurphy4625 Oh ok, but you KNOW this as a fact? How? I heard the recording also. I didn’t hear the woman “refuse”, I heard her say she “couldn’t” trace the phone. This happened more than 10 years ago, technology was different.
@@marianmurphy4625 yep, they sure were. Are you familiar with that area? Not even any street lights. I will stick with my theory. You do know her sister was schizophrenic, right? I worked in the field. I still think she was drugged and hallucinating and died naturally in the dark, wet, buggy, who knows what else, swamp. It’s okay to disagree, neither of us really knows the truth, do we🤷🏼♀️? What IS true, is that she’s dead, her mother is dead, and her poor sister may as well be! 🙏🏻I hope Shannan and Mari Rest In Peace, and I hope her sister Sarra FINDS PEACE🙏🏻
Usually they either tell everything or nothing. Either brags and tell in detail what they've done, or say nothing. Later on using further intervuew as a means of trting to control the interrogator and the narrative by lying and for their own amusement in their boredom.
What properties did the suspect have access too back in 2010? He might not have had to use his families house. Depending on circumstance, he could have killed them on the beach. But because of proximity of the bodies to his families house, it was there.
Aahhhh..yes! Arcitecht. Gawd knows how many buildings and properties he would have had access to at any given time. That possibility opens up a whole new pandoras box in this case.
He made new locations for each series of murders. He'd go dark a few years probably then pick a new spot. Maybe he changed his method as he got older. Weve only scratched the surface here I think
He entered from the waterside on a boat, duck hunting, burlap bags, a person to dump on a trip in a little boat that could have been hidden there on a dock or out in the water for ages. . He has another boat, I'd say evidence is in there or if he's bought and sold one, been out with cop buddies, especially when the last girl called and said :these people are going to kill me". There are many..
Some people have very good night vision. I wonder about Rex`s. He may have owned camouflage clothing for his duck hunting. He obviously knew in advance that he planned to kill and dispose of a human body. He chose petit women, for they were all the easier to transport and physically carry. Perhaps he went out in the daylight in camouflage clothing, with his duck license in his pocket, and made temporary pathways, and dug shallow graves (one at a time naturally) and got things all set up for the disposal in advance. Perhaps he set little reflective flags up to mark his path, and after the deed was done, he removed them and threw them away years ago. Bushes and brush like that grows in relatively quickly, which would make it undetectable by the next year, when it was new and green. I would presume he used, not an actual boat, but a blow up boat of some sort. These are just guesses naturally.
@@1ACL Also, if it coincided with full moon or some phase of visible moon, it would be much lighter at night. The moon lights up a LOT, you just don't notice just how much unless you are in a really dark area.
They weren't discovered, Because they weren't on the actual beach. They were hidden in a strip of brush and marshy lands along the parkway between the ocean beaches and the bay view communities. It's a desolate area at times. With the right timing, its easy to pull off dumping bodies there.
He would need privacy to kill hem without anyone seeing or hearing him. And to bind them up and wrap them up in that burrlap. He had a wood working shop right there in his garage. He could have usedd saws on them and nobody would have seen or heard him. Especially late at night. He had a Chevy Avalanche truck, a pick up truck . All he had to do was throw the bodies in the back and drive them to Gilgo and dump them real quick. Maybe he drugged them too But he was definitely bringing women back to his house.
I wonder if its possible to do a complete 15 year financial forensic search looking for Hotels,Storage facilities,Rental vans,car washes/Detailing,Fuel fills,Dining do a complete financial focus group using pie charts and A North eastern map and look patterns
So if the bodies were murdered 10yrs ago... why are we just hearing about this now? I read somewhere the Rex's 1st wife reported that she became suspicious re: some times when he was missing that correlating to the times the women were murdered?
32:57 All those searches about children. I wonder how many children are missing in the area. Does anyone know what this scheduled Press conference is about in the morning? They just had one. I am anxious to know.
He would have changed his MO because he is very intelligent, and don't forget he's an architect. So he's used to looking at things from different points of view and adapting, experimenting to get the desired result.
No way he used a boat. The bodies were all within X feet of the roadway, on the right side. None near the marsh between the island and mainland. Also, too much suspicious activity to get a body in and out of a boat.
Have you ever stepped out onto a beach on a full moon night? The water reflects the light, and the moon beams are brilliant. He could have even had a bonfire. Nobody really goes up to the bonfires asking who they are and what they are doing. It's not uncommon to see one person on the beach in the middle of the night...
Its deserted there at night. Especially in the winter. You could easily dump a body really quick and take off. Not now because they paved a bike path now and put a wire fence all along the whole road.
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@@Shivaismysaviouragreed
Maybe rex started to have a more heart not to torture the people.rex may not be only one cop could of been a killer as well.
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I think the bodies were there on an as you need it basis.
It’s terribly sad all of these victims but to think a woman went missing with a toddler and no one has come forward to identify her even with a visible tattoo is incredibly sad. 😢😢😢😢😮
There was an article in October of 2022 with the following info. "The FBI is expanding its search for answers in the murders of two people whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach - a search that now will extend all the way to Alabama. The Mobile Police Department says the agency is looking for family members of Elijah "Lige" Howell Howard, who died in 1967. The police department believes his relatives may be able to help identify Jane Doe who has only been known as "Peaches," due to the peach tattoo on her chest, as well as her toddler. The bodies of the mother and child were found in Gilgo Beach in 2010." I have searched but found no follow-up to this article but that had to be something to do with DNA
Very sad!😢😢
I am hopeful that since the Golden State Killer was caught, and how he was finally identified and caught, might also be used to identify the unknown identities of the victims.
Someone just said in comments that the woman and child have been identified. I don’t know if that’s accurate, but I hope so!
I still think the Asian guy dressed as a woman was also tricking and maybe the police chief got that one. He did do something to thwart the investigation.
Right, that makes all us wonder what kind of world we live in? 😢😢😢
Amazing how long he got away with these crimes.
Not really, the police were not interested as they were sex workers and some of the hierarchy were into the scene
Not when the police chief was seeing working girls so wouldn't let the FBI investigate, he had a free hand to kill 😢
Amazing how corrupt and lame the police are
Cops are usuless
I think the corupt police chief had a lot to do with it. Just my opinion.
I'm not sure why the reporter speaks about using a car to dump the bodies. Rex was a duck hunter, he used these waters and would understand all the hiding areas where you could do anything. Sure it's dark but there is something called moonlight. Rex's house is a hoarders shambles, his home life would have been complicated and from video I've seen of his wife & son it certainly wasn't a 'normal' home. Rex's other hidden life amongst the chaos may have been his escape. A thing to do where he was in control vs an environment he had no control over. And here is a huge man who couldn't finish eating his Pizza. It's all sad and strange
Leave the family alone. They had nothing to do with the murders. It is rude to kick someone when they are down.
Although one can feel sympathy for the wife and kids, let's be clear: that shack was filled with clutter, hoarding, and with all due respect, she needs some serious mental help, clean herself up, and at least wash and comb her hair. Suspect major depression and denial. Given the state the shack was in, and the charges, they have no basis really to complain about how LE left the house. Denial means on some level she may have known something amiss, but depression and denial.
@@xyzconsult4903 - let’s see what your house looks like…nobody is perfect.
damn, you sound like you really sympathize with him
Exactly a duck hunter, you see how long it took to find them. He knew it to. You wouldn't walk into that area of the beach it's to much brush ,birds nest in them.
Shannon is the Warrior & fallen Hero in these murders. She told us everything on those 911 calls. She needs to be honored as such.
... yes and Mari Gilbert too. Love & peace from 🇩🇪.
I found it strange that she didn't sound scared.
I'm happy these families will be getting closure and hopefully some peace. I felt so bad when Shannon's Mom was murdered 6 yrs later by her own daughter who was schizophrenic. It's all so sad.
Yes so very cruel and just a heartbreaking fate. Seems as if some pll are doomed more than others, for what reason so ever...What happened to Shannons mom is unspeakably tragic, RIP Shannon and mom.
Drugs, especially methamphetamines cause psychosis, skitzophernia, and meth mouth.
Ive driven this road a countless number of times. Ocean parkway is not busy and not well lit late at night. It's also not an area you would walk regularly. The parking lots and beach are to the south of the parkway and only brush and marsh land are to the north. Its very likely the bodies were left and there would be no witnesses, even in summer.
Its looks pretty bleak. Not even any wild animals about to find or dig up bodies. It looks a marshy waste land with thick bush.
There was bound to be an odor, incredible nobody noticed.
I truly dont understand how this "reporter" has a job. Like no man people arent walking down ocean pkwy
I am curious if the road is just one back-and-forth highway or if it also has service roads as well.
@Lorielle2790 no service road, just a very long east/west road. 2 lanes in each direction with a grassy or brush covered median for most of it. Some areas have beach homes on the north side with additional roads for access.
He is a duck hunter. It's been reported that he had dozens of gun permits for duck hunting. This is certainly how he disposed of the bodies, wrapped in camouflage burlap and dumped off of a boat.
Just like Dexter 😅
Most definitely all victims were murdered in a private setting - his tools accessible!! FYI… Davis park, Fire Island, NY - Karen Vargata 1996 - her legs, feet found in a black bag on the bay side, not ocean side! Davis Park is only accessible by boat / ferry! Her skull was found WEST near Tobay beach, which is much closer to Gilgo beach, Ocean Parkway. The Gilgo beach area where the burlap wrapped bodies were found, is a long stretch - miles of bay side thickets,not the ocean side. Late at night absolutely pitch black for miles. He knew where & what time he could pull his truck over, and walked the burlap body’s into the thicket quickly, no cars - no one would see this. Horrific monster!
I wonder if he had night vision goggles in his vault
He had to have night vision goggles but where did he kill them and how many did he dump in the ocean
It's repulsive. To think the area had to live in fear like they did. I remember living in Galveston during hurricane Alicia (1983) and I was terrified of the serial killer that operated in Galveston County.
Doesn't take a genius to understand that most likely, it was the same serial killer. He just changed his methods.
The guy grew up there. He knew the area very well.
I think that to,
Yes, makes sense
Stfu y'all... In 10 years no worker no clean up or anything of the area been made 😅...wake up
The lady brought in as expert offers absolutely nothing, Ive seen her 3 or 4 times commenting on this case, she's offered zero insight everytime, and she will be getting appearance pay, a crime committed in front of our eyes.
Vinnie, just wanted to thank you for all your hard work! Your questioning is most valuable and amazing!, your team as well . Thank you for bringing awareness to all of us, victims and their families! People, as myself , have a very hard time understanding what in the world is going on , DAILY! I do not know the statistics, but I would not doubt for one moment it is minute by minute! Glad to have found you here on truth / crime etc.. !
Bless you Vinnie!
Thanks again ,
Tammy
It makes sense to me that the old police chief is responsible for the remaining victims. Or at least some of them.
What else could explain him refusing fbi help. Maybe he doesn't want anyone investigating to find out what he's done.
Maybe Rex came along and ruined everything for him.
That's been a strong possibility in my opinion. This is insane 😳
Yes indeed a good point. Investigations from the very start after finding all these bodies were unprofessional and incomplete for some reason. How would any reasonable police chief refuse help from the FBI in a huge case like this. If he didn`t have anything to hide....
Does noone question just what is wrong with American men. Way too many of this type of sicko.
Not just men & not just in America. Sickos exist!
It’s not just America sadly
Yes we question it all the time. They are in bad shape. I'm not really sure what the heck is their problem.
Sick men in every country.
Hollywood
Well, he won’t have a great life in prison, but he’ll get his three square meals a day, a little exercise, tv watching and maybe even get to write a book. It’ll be a lot better life than his victims will have.
It took 4 DECADES to catch the golden state killer!!... 😮😮😅
This monster couldn't even bury the baby he killed with the mother he killed? Wtf
Are they doing reverse DNA on the baby? And the man victim?
Another way he could degrade his victim.
@@elizethompson8627 she is the daughter of the woman they are calling peaches
All these women were so beautiful..it makes me sick..this person looks like he has no soul in his photographs. He hasn't been proven guilty yet, but, everyone be careful..who knows how many people were involved in these crimes. Rex must be one manipulative hateful person..hard to live with I'm sure. Sorry for his family.
The lady that called 911 after going to that millionaire house and said that someone was after her.. she was right.. he hunted her down is why they were trying to put her out of his house.. that huge man was waiting for her and her driver was paid to leave her..there were other men there that night one saying she looks like a man but they plotted on her and she wasn’t crazy she didn’t want to leave out of the house with that huge man..it was him she was afraid of.. it all makes sense now.. rip to them all!
@@lovelyqueen8999 I also think that night there was a "hunting party" present. Poor Shannan said - THEY are trying to kill me. And someone appeared that she did not know, she said - Who are you? And - How do you know my name?
I find it unbelievable that her death was ruled an accident. Stinks of a cover up to me.
Know he doesn't that what makes this bad people,
Bc he has none. When their eyes go black of dissociation, or of maximum rage and the psychopath wants to influt pain, punish, you see their true self, and you stare straight into their non existing soul, their void, their schizoid deeply disturbed core of emptiness.
I get not being able to identify an adult, peaches, but that missing toddler. Did no one miss the toddler & the mom together? Please get them solve these unknown victims.
That is something that is bothering me too. I thought I read something about "Peaches" possibly being tied to someone in Georgia but I don't know if it was just a theory because of the tattoo or them attempting to trace her DNA. The toddler is even harder to believe but if the family didn't know about the child which is possible that could be why. Sadly, some families don't care about other members that they think are on drugs. There are also families that disown people because of their sexual orientation which could be the case with the Asian male in women's clothing. I don't how people can be so heartless but it happens. That's what I want to know too. Are they even trying to identify these people? I wish they would say something about that but this new task force is tight-lipped about things which served them well so far. That toddler bothers me more than anything. poor baby, the killer didn't even have enough compassion to leave that baby with her mother. Not that I except compassion from murders but still.
I was thinking Peaches was tied to Georgia but it is Alabama which is next to it. From an October 2022 article that didn't seem to go any further. The FBI is expanding its search for answers in the murders of two people whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach - a search that now will extend all the way to Alabama.
The Mobile Police Department says the agency is looking for family members of Elijah "Lige" Howell Howard, who died in 1967.
The police department believes his relatives may be able to help identify a Jane Doe who has only been known as "Peaches," due to the peach tattoo on her chest, as well as her toddler. The bodies of the mother and child were found in Gilgo Beach in 2010.
@Lorielle2790 I totally agree & understand about people not having family. Can be many reasons. Even maybe she didn't want to have contact w them. Just wish she would have had a friend or someone who was close enough to not only know about the tattoo but that she went missing. Sex workers should always have SOMEONE to check in with. good to know this task force is really doing their job & does care as they just named miss vergata/Jane doe 7. They just waited to tell us til her family knew & Rex was arrested. I think they're going to really get everything they can figured out.
@Lorielle2790 that's interesting, I didn't know about the Mobil connection. I bet that's thru DNA.
Also, about what you said about the toddler. I know sometimes John's will tell sex workers just bring the kid when they say they can't do the date bc they can't find a sitter. What's always worried me about them being seperated was if he kept the poor kid after the mother died. Which is Rex is connected, with his internet searches, wouldn't be too far fetched. I feel like he is connected. And just changed his ways of disposal once either he couldn't do it any more or he didn't feel he had to, and had found a good dumping ground since none of the body parts were being found there but parts were being found elsewhere. Also, there has to be a 3rd place, where the rest of vergatas located. And I'd bet it was used after the gilgo was found (if he is connected)
Sorry for getting off topic.
@@mobileasaurus Thinking about the toddler, she is found next to Valerie Mack. That kind of makes me wonder if Peaches knew Valerie Mack. Maybe Valerie was watching the child so Peaches could handle her business, then the animal goes back for them in case they knew anything. It would explain why the mother and child aren't found together. I just don't think a serial killer could "enjoy himself" with a baby around. It's a possibility anyway. Yes, it had to be DNA that led them to the guy in Alabama but I don't think it is a close match, maybe a cousin and that's why they are having a hard time
Shockingly bad Police work. Had the car description aswell as a huge man as having been seen last with a victim.
DO RESEARCH SOME POLICE NOW IN JAIL ILLEGALY FAILED BUT NOW 2YRS TASK FORCE+FBI HUGE SUCESS
they cant just go arrest someone without proof because then he will get set free and stop doing it. They need solid proof and it sounds like they have it now.
@@sherrietorres9938 Proof doesn't land on your lap. You go looking for it .
I think that the police captain that went to jail, he knows more than what he let the investigator to believed, because why he will stall with the investigation and even interfered with the investigation. why?
As a local, let me just say that while Gilgo Beach and the area they are talking about is quiet and overgrown, its almost like these things took place in plain sight. Jones Beach State Park is nearby, and attracts millions each year, but there are very wild areas near there. Bags of drugs occasionally wash up there. I would also say that people think they are safe in massapequa and this area, and there is an underlying arrogance and racism in this area, especially massapequa. He probably would have been caught if he was black or hispanic. This area is very beautiful.. it doesnt happen very often.
I was waiting for someone to be honest about that area. I picked that up. They seemed to think that their 'lily white' area was safe. All that 'not this neighborhood' nonsense.
Thanks for your honest input.
Yea... Rex avoided arrest for 14 years because he's got White privilege..😅😂😁😀😆
@@StompingRabbits Even the reporting of this case is racist. None of the news reports are portraying any of the Gilgo 4 as black women. 🤬 Or maybe it's too early for that? 🤔 We may have to wait until the Netflix documentary before they right this wrong and provide proper representation.
Totally.
Slept with the lights on . . . Scary
I think there’s a group of men …
Like a club?
I always wondered if that marsh would have stunk without those bodies there.
Sea air and that kind of land can smell badly when the tide brings sea life in and tide out.
Muddy wet, plant life smells.
It was incredibly remote.
People don’t go to the marshes Vinnie.. c’mon. It’s not as if the bodies were siting on a beach chair under an umbrella.. 🤦🏻♂️
Yhh but ,in 10 years no any worker or clean up the are been made cmmon.... 😅 Are you a grown man? Just wake up buddy
I hope they checked paternal DNA on the baby found.
There is a recording of Shannon and they know the address, listening to her it appeared to be more than one person. What happened to police work that discovered the recording, checking out all the details. Surely there must have been huge suspicion after hearing that
The driver aka pimp was clearly in on it, got a bigger sum for including killing her. He said 'go back', to her. She 'no, they're trying to kill me' and 'Why did they know my name? Why did you tell them my name?' She knew, he'd broken the bounderies, given them her name, clearly afraid now of both the driver and 'them', probaly sex/murder party. She seemed drugged slurring etc since someone drilled a hole in her neck and also why scared and 'they try to kill me', and fleeing. Hence the irratic behavior, running away from orher neighbours etc. No drugs in her system at autopsy etc
@@chilikonkarma still cannot understand why they didn’t dig deeper into the men involved. I deaf and blind man would smell a rat
@@turmoil3161 it's irresponsible, not doing their job saving lives, preventing them to do it again, it's upsetting to say the least. In that case, that police chief was probably in that sex/torture party and ehy the cover up. That driver knew, was in on it.
@@dianemasterson2132 'be in protective custody'? They found her Dead, in the area behind the house, with a whole drilled in her neck? And the police wrote it off as an accident, not even investigating it?! Are you drunk?
@hebbedadicefakkinmasta2676 anyone who believes the convoluted thinking by former NYC elected to the highest office ... absolutely needs to hide. Details are going to be uncovered soon. Do a search on Jared Kushner and Baltimore. I can not believe anyone who breaks the law does so with conviction. There is a reason for everything.
I think that belt that was found with a victim,his wife recognizes that belt. With the initials etched into it. She knows it.
Would it not make sense that the DA's office has some idea where these girls were murdered, based on evidence found with/on their bodies?
I'm also interested in learning of any connection to unsolved murders in SC/NC.
Me too since I live on the southern coast of NC near the SC border.
Severly decomposed. Several just bones.
Why hasn't anyone done geneology dna searches on the unidentified? I hope they do.
Of course they will. This is an incredibly comprehensive investigation.
They have lol
@hebbedadicefakkinmasta2676 I hope the investigation involves a family tree of all his relatives and people change their name to hide in many cases
As a survivor of the GROUP on Craigslist, and after Law Enforcement denied my reporting and evidence for 4 years, this arrest is a coverup.
Darkness in nightfall along with isolations remain as the best cover for a serial killer to dispose of his kills.
No matter how long ago it was, they will eventually get caught.
Sometimes
So just ac random thought. I don't know if anyone else has had.
What if Shannon in trying to get away stumbled into the Lisk and maybe caught him off guard doing shat he was doing? It could explain why she wasn't left the way the other woman were. She saw too much.
He wasn't prepared with his kit for lack of better words. He couldn't let her go and that was why.
Or something totally different like. We know both Rex and Dr creepy were into young girls ( sickos)
What if they knew each other from being the common interest and all. There is too much going on at that scene at the exact same times .
Would it be beyond this two .. " men " to hire a young girl have his way with her and give me likely sell this child to b the killer? Such a small area them both v being b users of young woman ?
Sorry if I'm rambling. It's just feeling you get when there are too many coincidences. Too many paths in one area for them not to cross somewhere somehow.
Well, she was found in the neighborhood where she was last seen and Rex does not live there. I think it is much more likely that someone from the neighborhood who wanted to shut her up followed her as she tried to hide in the marsh and killed her. From the info back then some of the men in the area, including James Burke who was the police chief that was arrested for assaulting a suspect who found porn and sex toys in his vehicle were at some of these parties. I somehow doubt Rex had any involvement in what happened to Shannon. He seemed to be very guarded about his activities because he wanted the outside world to see him as a respectable citizen. I mean, just look at those pictures from the court, he was beyond livid that he got caught. I doubt he was buddies, but that's just my gut feeling. Apparently, the guy who hired her that night, the doctor, and Chief Burker were all cleared of any involvement but that was back then. I do wonder if the new task force is reviewing that because of the corruption back then. To me, the easiest option is usually the one and I think someone in that neighborhood went after Shannon or called someone to do it. This is how rich people operate. To me, that's very logical and they could also be responsible for some of the others. I mean it isn't like Rex was the only local scumbag who could have thought Ocean Parkway was the perfect place to find a body but normally they would want to put a little distance between them and the bodies. With Shannon, there was no time and it was too risky to transport her body and dump her along the highway because it was normally quiet but it was not that night because she called 911. They would have risked being caught by someone that was not in their pocket. I think the doctor had cameras but that footage was not asked for, why? By the time anyone asked for that footage it was long gone. I think you are somewhat on the right track but thinking a little more complicated than the most likely chain of events. If Rex was there that would be the most bizarre chain of events ever and it does not seem like she ever left the neighborhood, if she did escape the neighborhood no one would have brought her back
I think she did take something in that house and maybe was acting erratically. Then ran from the house and ran into him somehow. Maybe he was burying someone or back visiting the bodies.
Oh I didn't think of a connection between the Dr. and him. Maybe they knew each other. Interesting
@Lorielle2790 good points. The area is full of affluent people who just want to take their yachts to Florida or on the bay. Bottom line is the phone Shannon was using could have been put into airplane mode once she got to the neighborhood thus squashing any communications to the emergency services provider. Otherwise, she got away, but how? If people living in Oak Beach Association were in the pharmaceutical industry, promoting schedule 2 narcotics was basically legal, paying their bills. Booze built America, now narcotics build America. Not to mention allowing the no tell motels to fall into decay and become shelter for drug users and prostitution.
The first set of ladies were found by accident. A K9 officer stayed in his vehicle while he let his dog out to potty! The K9 dog found the first set! They were not looking for these ladies!!
The way i have heard it is that he had a new dog to train and he saw this as a good opportunity to do that.
Didn’t u guys already post this???
More than one ...when she called 911 she said they are after me!!!
..... means more than 1 !!!
But I think more than 2 or 3 ...to make sure it will be no evidence for their crime !!!!!!
I think the victims were taken to the beach and killed there ...before to to be burried....as I think
May be in other car after been strangled ..
I agree that someone else might have been involved in Shannon's murder. In the 911 call it sounds like she said "you're a part of this too" or something to that effect. I infer that she was talking about someone right there when she made the call that she had trusted prior to that moment of realization that "they" were after her to kill her.
@@willowwillis7374 Absolutely more than one person. Someone appeared she had not seen previously, she asked - Who are you, and How do you know my name??
Poor Shannan must have been so terrified, trying to run with nowhere to run. She turned out to be the hero though, thanks to her this horrific story is unraveling.
What kinda search finds 4 victims but fails to find another body that is located 0.28 miles away.
WTF
Crime scene?
Original truck he gave to his brother and replaced new 4 himself
As architect it is possible he has access to:
Job sites
Barter payment via mutual access
He like storage units - check alter names, emails, burner phone IDs
Units he rented short term, left empty & abandoned
Interview mentions carpentry furniture making - needs workshop
Possible he owns boat , RV, bomb shelter, boat house.
Maybe someone important(corrupt police, etc.) Owe him?
It's a long strip which at night is very desolate. I drive it in the summer time to get to the beaches nearby but you would never catch me driving it after sun down cause its lonely, dark and eerie. I always thought if you get stranded there at night you may meet some unwanted company.
It's probably his 'souvenir spot' bc ouger got rejected by some petit brunette hazel green eyes once on one of them beaches, him getting off of the control he feels of killing them and knowing they're there. He tried to change his MO to dismember and scatter but couldn't help himself, got the head of one of them and put it cliser to the favourite spot. Their bodyparts were his mementos, souvenirs.
Shannon said THEY are trying to kill me. Did he have help? Holes could have been dig before to make it quicker. You can only put so many in one spot.
The old man that called 911 even said that he saw a young girl in distress and a pick up truck.
Mauren Brainar Barnes wasn't found in burlap! But has all points to Rex except the lack of burlap
Yhsts because she broke free and called 911, his ritual was disturbed. He left her in a hurry.
I live here... at night it's not busy it's desolate.
He killed them in his house. This isn’t some big mystery.
I want him to be asked on the witness stand “When did you become a hulking ogre?”.
😂😂😂
I have been wondering, if these general areas were searched repeatedly over the years since the discovery of all these bodies. Who is to say that this killer didn’t kill more and placed the bodies in the same general area?
If he is the killer and it seems so, I guess that he killed more than this three victims. I hope all the evidence will prove this 🙏.
My friend was lucky she has a interview with that guy pretending that he was a model agency,she was very new in the city and she said i dont have money annd i am not familiar with long Island, she told her don't worry,I will get the tickes snd he did.,when she told me ,I told dont go it could be a tramp,she describe the guy and its the same like this, she tooked her picture to show him for the model agency, he start talking about his parts them i told her, not body in any agencies never talk that way,lucky that she listen to us.
I cant wait to see this all get solved Prayers for the Victims their families & Law Enforcement ✝️🙏🕊️💜🕯️
Yes
Scarier still if he killed them all.... what an absolute monster hiding in plain sight!
Yes, and they put their pants on the same way we do.
@@ND-or5so no
Hard to believe nobody reported the smell. One body is bad enough but several would be noticably rank. That close to the road, surely it was noticed. Glad I left the north for Georgia over 40 years ago.
He had a boat, the woman he went on a "date" with until she got uncomfortable around him hinted LISK probably used a boat
Psychopaths are big, also wouldn't surprise me if he has an XXY combination; big, agressive, androgonous with female features such as round hips for a male etc. Has probably been rejected at a sensitive age by a petite girl, brown hair, green/blue eyes, uncertain about his own gender belonging,, the size of the victims, petite, the childsize doll, plus searches on IN all points to phaedofilia
Ocean Parkway, at the spot where these bodies were found, there is not much traffic at all, and virtually no pedestrians. There is no parking permitted for MILES in either direction, which is why people don’t think of it as beach ‘territory.’ It is not swimmable - it is between Robert Moses Beach and Jones Beach, some empty 10 + miles stretch of no parking, no beach access, no lights, and rarely traversed road. Even now, rarely traversed.
It's highly unlikely, there's more murderers than one. The dismemberment's probably for practical reasons, together with evolved fantasies, and enabling him to use the parts as trofés, memorabilia, also changing MO to confuse the investigators
It was to give the threat of dismemberment to drug dealers, IMHO
He tried to scatter some of them but couldn't resist the urge to use this dumpingsite, and brought back one of the sculls to the site of choice. It giving him the sense of power and control to own them where they were. The ultimate control to have over any other person is to kill them, and he takes it one step further by controlling their bodyparts aswell as extended and prolonged control via their familymembers, stalking them, calling them with the function of emotional sadism and control.
I would like to know why there is not one single camera on that long arse stretch of road that runs along the water front. We have been living in the surveillance age for quite some time now. And there still isn't one today right ? You're finding dead bodies out here HELLO.
Excellent expert panel.
good work
Horrific situation so don't do drugs and sell yourself because this will be your fate.
A guy with hundreds of guns has got to have night vision scopes.
Absolutey 👍.
I find it interesting, that his wife, stoped tweeting, at the exact time, they found all the bodies, april that year and reckless, to not even have intervjued her yet. If she knew or not, she can give wittness of changes at home, his behavior, temperament etc
Oh that's interessting. Pls, could u tell me a source? Ive learned that she was'nt in the states at the time of the ca. victims death?
@@das_loewenmaeulchen source is I found her twitteraccount and sa her last posts that indocated she was on iceland and/oe commented on the colcano outbreak there etc and then everything stopped, not one more tweet since.
I can, spell, am cooking at the same time
A wife knows if she's married to a weirdo maybe not a serial killer but def something weird.
@@chilikonkarma Sry, I didnt understand what u mean 🤔. Im from 🇩🇪 .
One thing I find very telling. It didn't take Rex's wife more than a moment to file for a divorce. She said she thought he was leading a double life. It appears to me that she believes he is guilty. Hmmm...why? What does she know?
Oh here we go . . . 🙄🙄
He could have threatened the whole family?
Is that creepy painting dated and the artist name on it ??
It's got nothing to do with any of that but solely a legal step to protect the assets, the house etc bc otherwise it'll get confiscated and sold to pay off things for the damage he's done etc paying the cictims etc If divorced they can't confiscate the whole house she and the children live in. It's an economical and practical step
she knew for sure... he has a soundproof dungeon in his basement.
I just want to know if he and the dodgy policeman had a friendship or relationship?
Yes, it would be good to know if they knew each other by happenstance.
Pleading not guilty. Because he hopes a trial will fail to find him guilty or because he wants the fame of a trial?
HOW MANY WOMAN VISITED THAT SPECIFIC HOUSE WHERE SHE RAN FRM WHERE THE 911 CALL CAME FROM ....
What about - in the Shannon recordings, she says "they". So what about another accomplice?
What about if you're high af??
Yes, and Nikkie Brasso also states in her interview, that Rex used the word "they" when talking about the murders
She sounded drowsy/ strange in the recordings 😞
@@earth0128 they drugged her
@@candy9986seems likely 😔
He was looking up 10 yr olds..so not a surprise the women were smaller...theres so much more to find out..scary
He should be locked up just based on his search history.
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Such a lot of speculation and no investigation
I just hit the like button. Thank you for the reminder.
I bet there is a graveyard in his back yard. And exactly I bet those bodies were scattered out there way after they were murdered and murdered elsewhere. And that crooked cop probably had something to do with this mess.
There are ZERO, and I mean ZERO, cars driving through there late at night. 2, 3, 4 in the morning. I used to go to Jones beach all the time in my younger days. It's a straight road. So even in the very, very remote possibility that a car would be driving on it at those times, you can see it from several miles away in either direction in that total darkness, giving him plenty of time to make it back to his car. Dumping those bodies could not have been easier using a car. At minimum, each of the Gilgo 4 were killed at his house and then dumped there by driving them there.
i think for starters theirs some sort of coverup with law enforcement they knew of Rex years ago but put this whole thing on the back burner. I think long islanders deserve to know how deep this goes. The house that shannen was at that night sounds like a good place to start
before rex got caught, it was the local police chief himself, a known pervert, who was considered the killer. Every theory said the killer was either a cop or had an understanding with them. There are stone cold evidence from over a decade back that cops ignored.
This area was desolate. This wasn’t a beach area per se
The public would like to hear the RECORDED conversations between him and his wife NOW that he is in prison!!!!!
Her attorney said that they don't speak.
A toddler, yet to be identified...... absolutely chilling.. how can this be?!!! Don't missing children get logged on a DNA database?!!!
Not if the mother is buried next to the baby .
@Evil :
Interesting question. If they don't it would be good to make that a law in every state here in America. I know this toddler was found near the mother in this case but it wouldn't be a bad idea to take the dna of children early on. Maybe they should take everyone's dna from birth on, I know that the idea would make many people uncomfortable though..
@@bazookajoe2889exactly
How? Why? 😢
But surely even if the mom is buried near the toddler, hasn’t the grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends notified law enforcement?!?!
There was more than one person with Shannon Gilbert when she was on the phone
Yes, and they’ve been cleared, yes?
@sassynfree884 No. They killed her. We have her screaming, and the phone woman refused to track the call for her
@@marianmurphy4625 Oh ok, but you KNOW this as a fact? How? I heard the recording also. I didn’t hear the woman “refuse”, I heard her say she “couldn’t” trace the phone. This happened more than 10 years ago, technology was different.
@@sassynfree884 they were tracing calls long before that
@@marianmurphy4625 yep, they sure were. Are you familiar with that area? Not even any street lights.
I will stick with my theory. You do know her sister was schizophrenic, right? I worked in the field. I still think she was drugged and hallucinating and died naturally in the dark, wet, buggy, who knows what else, swamp.
It’s okay to disagree, neither of us really knows the truth, do we🤷🏼♀️?
What IS true, is that she’s dead, her mother is dead, and her poor sister may as well be!
🙏🏻I hope Shannan and Mari Rest In Peace, and I hope her sister Sarra FINDS PEACE🙏🏻
I hope prosecutors hold a lot of cards to get him to start confessing
Rex don't confess!
Usually they either tell everything or nothing. Either brags and tell in detail what they've done, or say nothing. Later on using further intervuew as a means of trting to control the interrogator and the narrative by lying and for their own amusement in their boredom.
Great coverage been following this story since 2010.
The innocent child 😢
Cant wait to go back to LI
What properties did the suspect have access too back in 2010? He might not have had to use his families house. Depending on circumstance, he could have killed them on the beach. But because of proximity of the bodies to his families house, it was there.
Remember the millionaire that used the escort service.. he was friends with him
Where was Rex's house from the first marriage? What about closed out cancelled storage lockers he did have?
Aahhhh..yes! Arcitecht. Gawd knows how many buildings and properties he would have had access to at any given time. That possibility opens up a whole new pandoras box in this case.
He made new locations for each series of murders. He'd go dark a few years probably then pick a new spot. Maybe he changed his method as he got older. Weve only scratched the surface here I think
He entered from the waterside on a boat, duck hunting, burlap bags, a person to dump on a trip in a little boat that could have been hidden there on a dock or out in the water for ages. . He has another boat, I'd say evidence is in there or if he's bought and sold one, been out with cop buddies, especially when the last girl called and said :these people are going to kill me". There are many..
Some people have very good night vision. I wonder about Rex`s. He may have owned camouflage clothing for his duck hunting. He obviously knew in advance that he planned to kill and dispose of a human body. He chose petit women, for they were all the easier to transport and physically carry. Perhaps he went out in the daylight in camouflage clothing, with his duck license in his pocket, and made temporary pathways, and dug shallow graves (one at a time naturally) and got things all set up for the disposal in advance. Perhaps he set little reflective flags up to mark his path, and after the deed was done, he removed them and threw them away years ago. Bushes and brush like that grows in relatively quickly, which would make it undetectable by the next year, when it was new and green. I would presume he used, not an actual boat, but a blow up boat of some sort. These are just guesses naturally.
Most hunters have night vision goggles !
@@mypeeps333 Awesome blossom. That is great information.
There is so much light pollution there, you can see quite well at night.
Until I turned 50, I could see in the dark like a cat. Lack of lights never bothered me.
@@1ACL Also, if it coincided with full moon or some phase of visible moon, it would be much lighter at night. The moon lights up a LOT, you just don't notice just how much unless you are in a really dark area.
They weren't discovered, Because they weren't on the actual beach. They were hidden in a strip of brush and marshy lands along the parkway between the ocean beaches and the bay view communities. It's a desolate area at times. With the right timing, its easy to pull off dumping bodies there.
Great video thank you
He would need privacy to kill hem without anyone seeing or hearing him. And to bind them up and wrap them up in that burrlap. He had a wood working shop right there in his garage. He could have usedd saws on them and nobody would have seen or heard him. Especially late at night. He had a Chevy Avalanche truck, a pick up truck . All he had to do was throw the bodies in the back and drive them to Gilgo and dump them real quick. Maybe he drugged them too But he was definitely bringing women back to his house.
I wonder if its possible to do a complete 15 year financial forensic search looking for Hotels,Storage facilities,Rental vans,car washes/Detailing,Fuel fills,Dining do a complete financial focus group using pie charts and A North eastern map and look patterns
That strip of highway is desolate at night. It’s not well traveled in colder months
So if the bodies were murdered 10yrs ago... why are we just hearing about this now? I read somewhere the Rex's 1st wife reported that she became suspicious re: some times when he was missing that correlating to the times the women were murdered?
32:57 All those searches about children. I wonder how many children are missing in the area.
Does anyone know what this scheduled Press conference is about in the morning? They just had one. I am anxious to know.
Really really sick searches.
He would have changed his MO because he is very intelligent, and don't forget he's an architect. So he's used to looking at things from different points of view and adapting, experimenting to get the desired result.
No way he used a boat. The bodies were all within X feet of the roadway, on the right side. None near the marsh between the island and mainland. Also, too much suspicious activity to get a body in and out of a boat.
Surely the bodies would smell nobody reported smelling anything ? How did nobody smell not the dead bodies?
Duh whoever killed them weren't going to do it in the daytime and selling tickets to watch him kill them duh. What a stupid QUESTION
Have you ever stepped out onto a beach on a full moon night? The water reflects the light, and the moon beams are brilliant. He could have even had a bonfire. Nobody really goes up to the bonfires asking who they are and what they are doing.
It's not uncommon to see one person on the beach in the middle of the night...
People see things and don't care 🦘
When will be a trial?
The media is happy to have some gruesome thing to talk about
Except Trump
What's the chances of 2 Different people dumpling bodies in the same area !
Very slim chance of that.
Its deserted there at night. Especially in the winter. You could easily dump a body really quick and take off. Not now because they paved a bike path now and put a wire fence all along the whole road.
Speed up Vinnie to 1.25x speed and his pace of speech is closer to a prime time news anchor.
I believe it is more than one person - I believe he had help!!!