One thing I’ve tried and it worked really well was getting a pack of the waterproof gazebo wind panels and using them on the sides of the tent for extra water resistance. It worked like an absolute charm. Those plus the rain fly kept the tent fully dry and comfortable both in winter and summer rains
I don't think what you call "bleed through" is actual rain passing through the tent wall. I would be more likely to believe that it was condensation due to the warm inside and colder outside causing this condensation on the inside of the wall and not rain bleeding through. JMHO
Nice review of this tent! I have had the T4 Overland Edition (orange) and a Gazebo G6 (original version) for two years. After our first rain experience, I got Kiwi Camp Dry spray and sprayed both the tent and gazebo all over (used like 6 cans) and then the carry bags as well. This made all the difference in the rain protection and no longer have water issues.
One of the things that drew us to the T4 plus is the big door on the front. Much easier to navigate than the standard T4 for us. Thanks for watching - Kelly
Really good honest review. We have a T-4 and the older design T-4 Plus. They addressed some of my concerns with this new T-4Plus like making the fly on the sides larger but stopped short of enlarging on the ends. I like the changes inside the screen room by moving the screen covers to the outside for better rain protection. We haven't had a problem with bleed through with ours but a friend has had some on his T-4. I don't need another Gazelle, but I am in love with this color and the changes are making me want to buy this one!!!
I don't think I would like a longer rainfly due to air flow restriction. This is one of the reason's I decided on the Gazelle is the rainfly doesn't extend the below the windows / length of sides, thus allowing for air flow into the tent in 3 seasons.
Thanks for the video. I usually camp solo with my four wheel camper on my chevy. Recently got a tacoma and looking to go the t4x or t3x options with the Gazelle. Do those hold up well in winter as well running a little heater in there?
As an owner, 100% valid. My only addition is we prefer to run the front room floorless and just use as a pure screen room. Save the extra floor for when the main room floor goes.
I have always wondered about this tent and thanks to you I have all my questions answered .I have a roof top tent but like a stationary tent for the same reasons you use yours for. It is amazing how fast it goes up,which is a plus as you stated for the rain. For-me personally the speed is not important . I am just happy to be camping. I also liked your install of the switches .I have had one sitting in the back seat of my gladiator and was deciding if I was going to attack the project,you made the decision easy for me and thanks for that. I was wondering if in Kellie’s tent if there is room for his hood monkey . Great video
I’ve had the T3 for years and finally decided to get the T4. I’ve been blasted by downpours and dry as a bone although I’ve yet to treat it. I’ve been very impressed with the quality and performance.
Review is better than the Gazelle video. They need a better color. The choices are psychotic orange or heat absorbing dark green. I have the big gazebo and the Tan color is very nice.
I’m gonna have to pitch my old tent that we used for changing. This is exactly what I’ve been looking at and the set up time will be drastically cut down. These are awesome
Strange that you had water blead through. I have one and it's been in some nasty storms, like raining sideways and it's always dry inside. Never had water ingress. Also, it's a good idea to always to guy wire the side panels. If you get a strong wind, the hubs will pop inward and can hit you pretty hard.
I sure and extra tarp would work well for the bleed threw. Just hook it to the top and stake it to the ground, the extra tie downs on top is perfect for that. Great video
Two issues I’m wondering if you can answer. 1-the Velcro areas that wrap around the poles how do you feel about insects getting in, is there a lot of open area for that? 2- wind, I understand strapping down the sides but what about the top, is it possible for there to be enough wind to push on the top of the tent?
Here’s something else… I see y’all had other gladiators and wranglers, some with roof top tents. Even though it’s much bigger… couod this be… maybe… a better base camp option to stake and go and come back to???
Those 7 loops also let you roll up the sides of the rain fly similar to the front door panels over the mesh, there are little bits underneath to loop into them. I've had the T4 plus for 3 years and just discovered this.
Can you spray on water repellent on the fabric to make it more waterproof? I'm on the fence between the Gazelle and the North Face Wawona 6. The Gazelle looks stronger but the North Face looks better at keeping you dry. The Gazelle has more windows, and fast install makes camping a lot more fun
I have a T3X cause I throw that big boy in a small ‘05 LJ unlimited Rubi. That size just fits. For rain I guy out the side more with some groundhog stakes. That helps a whole lot.
Good review. I think what you view as bleedn through is actually condensation. One way to find out is to set it up under a full tarp or under a carport in cold weather. My guess is, it will still bead water. Most synthetic tents suffer from this. However, your more traditional synthetic tents rainflys come all the way down and condensation accumulates on the fly and simply runs down and drips to the outside. I have a 4 man Alps and have seen it soaked with condensation, water running down the sides, yet have never had one drop enter the tent. However, these tents tend to have netting from the top down to a couple feet or so from the bottom, allowing all condensate to accumulate on the fly. I am seriously interested in this tent but the water issue has me concerned. That being said, I wonder if running a diesel parking heater outside, where the tent is warmed evenly and throughouly, yet does not introduce excess water might help resolve the issue or at least not introduce so much water into the tent. That is the biggest issue with running propane in a tent....water. Great Review, I love this tent.
Great review! We picked up a T4 Overland this winter but have yet to take it out. Water could be an issue up here in the pacific northwest. How do you plan to address the water bleed?
I'm not sure what the solution is going to be. If I come up with anything that works well we'll put that info out. To be fair to Gazelle it's a common issue that can happen with any single wall section of tent exposed to rain in specific conditions, not just theirs. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy that tent! - Kelly
Great video. I have the T3 and used it extensively for camping at the motocross track with my young family. I just received this tent, the T4 plus overland and looking forward to using the front part as a small “garage” for my sons’ MX bikes (electric Husky). The only issue I had with the flooring is that if you take it apart from the Velcro, the next time you reinstall the flooring to the Velcro, it won’t be totally flush as when you first buy it. I would have bugs come in through those unvelcro’d channels. Otherwise, love all these tents.
Looking to pick up a T4 or T4 Plus soon, possibly TODAY for black friday, haha. Just getting back into camping after 15 years away though...Have you found any issue with finding a place to setup? Or how it handles on uneven terrain?
Good question! The material is really heavy but the top is all mesh. We've had it out in 12 -14f and I'm comfortable using it in cold weather but don't think it would technically be considered a 4 season tent. Though I've spent plenty of time in tents in the cold and snow, I've never owned a proper "4 season" tent for direct comparison so I don't consider myself an expert. Thanks for watching! - Kelly
I lost my tent over the weekend due to collapse because of the snow as a mom who takes my kiddos camping solo in all weather really looking into this tent!
Use a tarp for ground cover, go to hardware store get heavy duty construction nails (same size and diameter). Tarp under $20, nails.35 cents each. Save yourself some money.
I’m returning my new t4 because triangular doors keep tripping people & dogs. Loved the materials. Does t4+ do away with the poorly designed entrances?
The doors are necessary that way because of the pop up construction, no other way to put the doors. Personally I think is a small price to pay, if my 16 year old dog can manage I’d assume so can yours, it only took a couple of times.
I’ve watched a ton of these reviews on Gazelle tents and I haven’t seen one person mentioning doing this but I’ll ask anyways…do you have to season these tents or spray water resistance on them like you do other tents?
I have the T4 and it's the best tent I have ever owned and that's saying something because I have had some nice Eureka's. So easy to set up and spacious. My wife and I use a nice baffled queen sized air bed and it is more comfortable that the king we have at home. We just air down the bed and have full use of the space. I would have preferred the overlanding edition but they are rare has hens teeth right now but the stock version has severed us well so far. Thanks for the review.
We have a t4plus overland edition as well and I have the same agreement about the rainfly on the edges. I did end staking out the ends further out instead of attaching it directly to the tent and that seems to help at least a little.
YOU WOULD 🤔 THINK THE T4+ OVERLAND TAKING AWAY XTRA HANDLE WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO FILL THAT SPACE WITH THRU WHEELS MADE FOR OVER LANDSCAPE TRAVEL and Switch out wheels for small skis in winter remove floor ya got ice fishing camp castle GLAMPING
@@CoddiwompleOverland a thought from Oz: I have the 2021 T4+ OE… it has cinching straps at each end of the weatherproof bag. If you cinch them enough to hold the contents neatly together but with enough slack to fit a hand under each strap when secured, it becomes very strong and effective lifting straps at each end of the bag allowing effective lifting. Great review thanks and seeing it used in snow was eye opening. I was thinking of it as a summer tent.
How do you keep the cold draft from coming in from the mesh skylight? it did not hold in the heat whatsoever from our Mr Buddy heater. I understand heat loss is going to happen but damn all that heat just rise up out the mesh top skylight leaving us cold at night. With the rain fly. Wish gazelle make an optional cover for the mesh sjylight inside.
@@CoddiwompleOverland we got the t4 plus and we tied down the side as close to the tent as possible but the flaps in the back and front seems to be where the cold wind is entering.
@@CoddiwompleOverland wow! Is that with or without winds.. I must be doing something wrong. Going to give it another shot this weekend camping on the coast.. ty
We have been using a T4 for a couple of years camping out of our 2dr JK. We love the T4. One negative is how large the stowed tent is. I bet that the addition just adds twice as much for storage. Thanks for the great video. One final note, if there are high winds the hubs will push in, if not tied down.. don't ask us how we know. Haha 🤣🤣
I have a T3x and it was used everyday for 30 days while overlanding in Colorado and Utah this past Sept/October. It was a very worthwhile investment and it was just my dog and I so we had plenty of room. However, some downsides were the nearly useless stakes, and as you pointed out, it would be nice to have a larger rain fly as an option. Also, in very heavy winds, such as during a thunderstorm that came through outside Moab, the side of the tent actually caved in, on two sides, and I had to pop those sides out before the whole thing collapsed. Fortunately it didn't show any signs of permanent damage. Its not meant to be a 4 season, "all weather" tent but its great for its ease of setup and take down. There have been no leaks or internal condensation either.
You really have to guy these pop-out tents in heavy wind. Also the peak of the roof can be supported with a pole, at least. that s how it is with Clam. But very good when staked out.
You should stake out the back of the rain fly. Idk why it has a little elastic hook but it acts like a funnel straight to the grommet that passes through to inside of the tents. I love my T4+ OE and sold my Roof Top Tent because this was so much easier and bigger.
Great informational video. Question about the single wall bleed through concern…. Do you think applying something like the 303 Fabric Guard or some other hydrophobic spray would help eliminate the bleed through?
Can somebody please tell me the maximum length of a cot that would fit in this tent, laying in the same direction as the bed in this video? I just want to make sure that my 84 in (7foot) cot will fit in here. TIA
Thank you so much I kind of thought it would but somebody was hell bent on telling me it would not I think they may have wanted to place their cot facing out towards the screen room versus against the back wall. I don't care where mine goes as long as it fits!
One thing I’ve tried and it worked really well was getting a pack of the waterproof gazebo wind panels and using them on the sides of the tent for extra water resistance. It worked like an absolute charm. Those plus the rain fly kept the tent fully dry and comfortable both in winter and summer rains
Thanks for the info.
I don't think what you call "bleed through" is actual rain passing through the tent wall. I would be more likely to believe that it was condensation due to the warm inside and colder outside causing this condensation on the inside of the wall and not rain bleeding through. JMHO
Thanks for your opinion 👍
Nice review of this tent! I have had the T4 Overland Edition (orange) and a Gazebo G6 (original version) for two years. After our first rain experience, I got Kiwi Camp Dry spray and sprayed both the tent and gazebo all over (used like 6 cans) and then the carry bags as well. This made all the difference in the rain protection and no longer have water issues.
Nice to know. Thanks for the info.
Awesome the one bag thing I've found a out gazelle and someone found a solution!! Nice discovery Sir!
@jeffweston9743 thanks
I own a regular T4 and love it's ease of setup, but being 6'5" tall I wish the doors were easier to get in and out of.
One of the things that drew us to the T4 plus is the big door on the front. Much easier to navigate than the standard T4 for us.
Thanks for watching - Kelly
Really good honest review. We have a T-4 and the older design T-4 Plus. They addressed some of my concerns with this new T-4Plus like making the fly on the sides larger but stopped short of enlarging on the ends. I like the changes inside the screen room by moving the screen covers to the outside for better rain protection. We haven't had a problem with bleed through with ours but a friend has had some on his T-4. I don't need another Gazelle, but I am in love with this color and the changes are making me want to buy this one!!!
They build a great tent and put some thought into their products. Glad you've enjoyed your Gazelle tents.
Thanks for watching! - Kelly
I don't think I would like a longer rainfly due to air flow restriction. This is one of the reason's I decided on the Gazelle is the rainfly doesn't extend the below the windows / length of sides, thus allowing for air flow into the tent in 3 seasons.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Thanks for the video. I usually camp solo with my four wheel camper on my chevy. Recently got a tacoma and looking to go the t4x or t3x options with the Gazelle. Do those hold up well in winter as well running a little heater in there?
Ours has held up great. We run a buddy heater.
I have had the bleed through concern also, thanks for detailing this reality.
Sure thing.
As an owner, 100% valid.
My only addition is we prefer to run the front room floorless and just use as a pure screen room. Save the extra floor for when the main room floor goes.
Great idea
Perfect tent with an attached ATV garage 👍. Great review!
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it! - Kelly
I have always wondered about this tent and thanks to you I have all my questions answered .I have a roof top tent but like a stationary tent for the same reasons you use yours for. It is amazing how fast it goes up,which is a plus as you stated for the rain. For-me personally the speed is not important . I am just happy to be camping. I also liked your install of the switches .I have had one sitting in the back seat of my gladiator and was deciding if I was going to attack the project,you made the decision easy for me and thanks for that. I was wondering if in Kellie’s tent if there is room for his hood monkey . Great video
Mike, glad the review helped. And when I do get my hood monkey there will be plenty of room for it in this tent!
Thanks for watching! - Kelly
Just ordered the T4 Plus Overland today. Thank you for the product review!
Hope you enjoy it as much as we do ours.
I'm running the T3 + . Not as much headroom, but the quality and ease of setup and teardown are so worth it!
The T3 is a great option!
I’ve had the T3 for years and finally decided to get the T4. I’ve been blasted by downpours and dry as a bone although I’ve yet to treat it. I’ve been very impressed with the quality and performance.
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Review is better than the Gazelle video. They need a better color. The choices are psychotic orange or heat absorbing dark green. I have the big gazebo and the Tan color is very nice.
Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching! - Kelly
I’m gonna have to pitch my old tent that we used for changing. This is exactly what I’ve been looking at and the set up time will be drastically cut down. These are awesome
They are great tents.
Strange that you had water blead through. I have one and it's been in some nasty storms, like raining sideways and it's always dry inside. Never had water ingress. Also, it's a good idea to always to guy wire the side panels. If you get a strong wind, the hubs will pop inward and can hit you pretty hard.
Our T4 does not have bleed through. Kelly's T4 plus however does.
Same here, had mine for a few years through heavy rain storms and never leaked.
Maybe it was just something with that T4 plus.
@@CoddiwompleOverland Mine is a T4 Plus. Maybe hit up Gazelle and see if they'll replace it.
Thanks.
This made me really rethink my setup of a 3p tent compared to a roof top to this set up
Lots of options for sure.
Finally a Gazelle tent NOT in Hunter Orange !
😁
I sure and extra tarp would work well for the bleed threw. Just hook it to the top and stake it to the ground, the extra tie downs on top is perfect for that. Great video
That would work.
Excellent review gentleman. It looks like you could probably protect the ends from the rain by rigging in a tarp.
Thanks, you are probably right.
lol... I'll be damn... I am all over it! Thanks for the shout out!
Lol, you are welcome brother!
Two issues I’m wondering if you can answer. 1-the Velcro areas that wrap around the poles how do you feel about insects getting in, is there a lot of open area for that? 2- wind, I understand strapping down the sides but what about the top, is it possible for there to be enough wind to push on the top of the tent?
We never have had an insect issue. We have never had the top push down in wind, only the sides.
I have not had an issue
Good info fellas, thanks for helping me decide.
Great!
Here’s something else…
I see y’all had other gladiators and wranglers, some with roof top tents. Even though it’s much bigger… couod this be… maybe… a better base camp option to stake and go and come back to???
It could If one chooses to base camp. However we do not base camp, we move everyday.
Those 7 loops also let you roll up the sides of the rain fly similar to the front door panels over the mesh, there are little bits underneath to loop into them.
I've had the T4 plus for 3 years and just discovered this.
Thanks
I have the orange version, diesel heater works very well there compare the buddy heater.
That's the next upgrade. Mike and Lora just got a propex that we have been looking at.
Can you spray on water repellent on the fabric to make it more waterproof?
I'm on the fence between the Gazelle and the North Face Wawona 6. The Gazelle looks stronger but the North Face looks better at keeping you dry.
The Gazelle has more windows, and fast install makes camping a lot more fun
Our T3 has no leaks at all. The easy set up can't be beat.
I have a T3X cause I throw that big boy in a small ‘05 LJ unlimited Rubi. That size just fits. For rain I guy out the side more with some groundhog stakes. That helps a whole lot.
Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed review!
Welcome, thanks for watching.
That’s a great honest review!
Thanks!
Good review. I think what you view as bleedn through is actually condensation. One way to find out is to set it up under a full tarp or under a carport in cold weather. My guess is, it will still bead water. Most synthetic tents suffer from this. However, your more traditional synthetic tents rainflys come all the way down and condensation accumulates on the fly and simply runs down and drips to the outside. I have a 4 man Alps and have seen it soaked with condensation, water running down the sides, yet have never had one drop enter the tent. However, these tents tend to have netting from the top down to a couple feet or so from the bottom, allowing all condensate to accumulate on the fly. I am seriously interested in this tent but the water issue has me concerned. That being said, I wonder if running a diesel parking heater outside, where the tent is warmed evenly and throughouly, yet does not introduce excess water might help resolve the issue or at least not introduce so much water into the tent. That is the biggest issue with running propane in a tent....water. Great Review, I love this tent.
Crap I want this tent except you're totally right... rainfly has to cover the ends to catch all the condensation.
Yes, thanks for watching
Thanks
Great review! We picked up a T4 Overland this winter but have yet to take it out. Water could be an issue up here in the pacific northwest. How do you plan to address the water bleed?
I'm not sure what the solution is going to be. If I come up with anything that works well we'll put that info out.
To be fair to Gazelle it's a common issue that can happen with any single wall section of tent exposed to rain in specific conditions, not just theirs.
Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy that tent! - Kelly
Great video. I have the T3 and used it extensively for camping at the motocross track with my young family. I just received this tent, the T4 plus overland and looking forward to using the front part as a small “garage” for my sons’ MX bikes (electric Husky). The only issue I had with the flooring is that if you take it apart from the Velcro, the next time you reinstall the flooring to the Velcro, it won’t be totally flush as when you first buy it. I would have bugs come in through those unvelcro’d channels. Otherwise, love all these tents.
We have the t4 and have not had that issue. Thanks for the info.
how do you like the t3 vs t4
I have the standard T4 plus and love it
They are nice.
I wonder how hard it would be to make an extended insulated rain fly that will tap into the tent stakes like the standard rain fly?
Not sure. But that would help.
Hello ! ..Your Tent Is Very Nice ! . I Saw the intérieur Was in a Pâle Color ! But What Color is Your Tent ! ? ..
Green
Great review👍👍
Thanks!
With regards to the buddy heater, can you send the link for the fan you have attached to it. please.
Here is the link to our Amazon store front you can find the fan in the camping gear. www.amazon.com/shop/coddiwompleoverland
Getting rid of my roof top tent for the t4 overland. Being able to stand up and have room is a deal breaker over a roof top
It a nice tent.
To Kelly: what is the brand of the shirt you're wearing in this video?
Kelly is no longer traveling with the channel
Looking to pick up a T4 or T4 Plus soon, possibly TODAY for black friday, haha.
Just getting back into camping after 15 years away though...Have you found any issue with finding a place to setup? Or how it handles on uneven terrain?
We have never found an area we could not ste up.
@@CoddiwompleOverland Thanks so much! Video was super helpful.
T4 Plus Overland ordered (and a roof rack to transport it, haha).
Great! You will really like it.
So guessing it is not a 4 season tent
Good question! The material is really heavy but the top is all mesh. We've had it out in 12 -14f and I'm comfortable using it in cold weather but don't think it would technically be considered a 4 season tent.
Though I've spent plenty of time in tents in the cold and snow, I've never owned a proper "4 season" tent for direct comparison so I don't consider myself an expert.
Thanks for watching! - Kelly
Its not a 4 season tent. You might look at Kodiak Canvas tents for that type of camping, much heavier but will last through just about any weather.
I lost my tent over the weekend due to collapse because of the snow as a mom who takes my kiddos camping solo in all weather really looking into this tent!
Had to leave at 3am due to the collapse and 50mph winds talk about a adventure on spring break in the midwest
That would be an adventure.
I have 2. Love um.
I really enjoy my Gazelle T4. Very good quality.
They do make great tents!
Thanks for watching! - Kelly
What is the difference between the T4 and the Overland version to justify the added cost? Is it really just the color?
According to Gazelles website, the Overland edition comes with more durable floor, all terrain stakes and a water resistant bag.
Use a tarp for ground cover, go to hardware store get heavy duty construction nails (same size and diameter). Tarp under $20, nails.35 cents each. Save yourself some money.
I’m returning my new t4 because triangular doors keep tripping people & dogs. Loved the materials. Does t4+ do away with the poorly designed entrances?
The T4 plus front door is different but the back door is the same design
The doors are necessary that way because of the pop up construction, no other way to put the doors. Personally I think is a small price to pay, if my 16 year old dog can manage I’d assume so can yours, it only took a couple of times.
I’ve watched a ton of these reviews on Gazelle tents and I haven’t seen one person mentioning doing this but I’ll ask anyways…do you have to season these tents or spray water resistance on them like you do other tents?
No, you do not.
No you due not.
I haven’t and it’s kept me dry in downpours.
Thanks for reviewing
Welcome! Thanks for watching.
I have the T4 and it's the best tent I have ever owned and that's saying something because I have had some nice Eureka's. So easy to set up and spacious. My wife and I use a nice baffled queen sized air bed and it is more comfortable that the king we have at home. We just air down the bed and have full use of the space. I would have preferred the overlanding edition but they are rare has hens teeth right now but the stock version has severed us well so far. Thanks for the review.
They make great tents! Glad you enjoyed the review. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences with your Gazelle! - Kelly
I wonder if a tarp over the top would help with bleed through water.
Someone else mentioned doing this on the ends.
@@CoddiwompleOverland Well that's good that others are doing it. I really want to try out this tent and use it for winter camping.
We have a t4plus overland edition as well and I have the same agreement about the rainfly on the edges. I did end staking out the ends further out instead of attaching it directly to the tent and that seems to help at least a little.
Thanks for the input.
One of the best review on the tent!
Thank you!
YOU WOULD 🤔 THINK THE T4+ OVERLAND TAKING AWAY XTRA HANDLE WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO FILL THAT SPACE WITH THRU WHEELS MADE FOR OVER LANDSCAPE TRAVEL and Switch out wheels for small skis in winter remove floor ya got ice fishing camp castle GLAMPING
Wheels would be nice. It is a little heavy
I too wish the carrying bag had handles on both ends.
Yes, it definitely needs them.
@@CoddiwompleOverland a thought from Oz: I have the 2021 T4+ OE… it has cinching straps at each end of the weatherproof bag. If you cinch them enough to hold the contents neatly together but with enough slack to fit a hand under each strap when secured, it becomes very strong and effective lifting straps at each end of the bag allowing effective lifting.
Great review thanks and seeing it used in snow was eye opening. I was thinking of it as a summer tent.
Great idea!
How do you keep the cold draft from coming in from the mesh skylight? it did not hold in the heat whatsoever from our Mr Buddy heater. I understand heat loss is going to happen but damn all that heat just rise up out the mesh top skylight leaving us cold at night. With the rain fly. Wish gazelle make an optional cover for the mesh sjylight inside.
We close one side off. I can tell you our t4 stays warmer than the double.
@@CoddiwompleOverland we got the t4 plus and we tied down the side as close to the tent as possible but the flaps in the back and front seems to be where the cold wind is entering.
Humm, I am not sure. We have never felt wind in ours. We have camped as low as 11°.
@@CoddiwompleOverland wow! Is that with or without winds.. I must be doing something wrong. Going to give it another shot this weekend camping on the coast.. ty
We have had it in wind, rain and snow.
Great info. I think this is the tent I'm looking for. I'm 6'6 so that would work well to me, no more hunch back. Thank you for the information.
Your welcome. It has been a great tent.
We have been using a T4 for a couple of years camping out of our 2dr JK. We love the T4. One negative is how large the stowed tent is. I bet that the addition just adds twice as much for storage. Thanks for the great video. One final note, if there are high winds the hubs will push in, if not tied down.. don't ask us how we know. Haha 🤣🤣
We won't ask how you know😂
Yes was wondering how long the T4 is in inches stowed away ? Thanks 🙏
65 inches
Hey Jerry, was wondering how you stow the T4 in the two door? We have a four door but the dog takes up the whole back seat.
rain.??? what a dissapointment !!! 👎👎
Yes, it was not horrible but it did leak some.
Mine has never leaked, not treated and under some severe downpours. Just saying.
I have a T3x and it was used everyday for 30 days while overlanding in Colorado and Utah this past Sept/October. It was a very worthwhile investment and it was just my dog and I so we had plenty of room. However, some downsides were the nearly useless stakes, and as you pointed out, it would be nice to have a larger rain fly as an option. Also, in very heavy winds, such as during a thunderstorm that came through outside Moab, the side of the tent actually caved in, on two sides, and I had to pop those sides out before the whole thing collapsed. Fortunately it didn't show any signs of permanent damage. Its not meant to be a 4 season, "all weather" tent but its great for its ease of setup and take down. There have been no leaks or internal condensation either.
Agree with the wind if those side are not tethered down they will collapse in.
You really have to guy these pop-out tents in heavy wind. Also the peak of the roof can be supported with a pole, at least. that
s how it is with Clam. But very good when staked out.
Thanks!
@harrymills2770 Thanks!
You should stake out the back of the rain fly. Idk why it has a little elastic hook but it acts like a funnel straight to the grommet that passes through to inside of the tents. I love my T4+ OE and sold my Roof Top Tent because this was so much easier and bigger.
We have done that before
Great informational video. Question about the single wall bleed through concern…. Do you think applying something like the 303 Fabric Guard or some other hydrophobic spray would help eliminate the bleed through?
Great question! I was thinking about trying some spray DWR to see if it helps. If it does, I'll post an update.
Thanks for watching! - Kelly
@@CoddiwompleOverland any updates?
As of now, we have not had it out in a rain.
Can somebody please tell me the maximum length of a cot that would fit in this tent, laying in the same direction as the bed in this video? I just want to make sure that my 84 in (7foot) cot will fit in here. TIA
You 7 foot cot would work fine. The T4 has an 8x8 foot print and T4plus have 8x16
Thank you so much I kind of thought it would but somebody was hell bent on telling me it would not I think they may have wanted to place their cot facing out towards the screen room versus against the back wall. I don't care where mine goes as long as it fits!