It’s not just JB, the whole of Malaysia, except the highlands, is much hotter than Singapore. That’s because their towns and cities have lesser trees and not landscaped. They have less towering buildings as the land is large and widely spaced out. Walking on the streets of Malaysia can really darken your skin. That’s why the Malaysians are more tanned than Singaporeans. The islands like Penang, Tioman, Langkawi are much more scorching hot and I got sun burnt even though I use sunscreens. 😅 In big countries, getting from one place to another is more inconvenient and time consuming if they don’t have MRT. Owning a car is the most efficient way to get around. That’s why most Malaysians drive and you don’t see many people walking on the streets outside the city areas except the silly foreigners! 😅Some Malaysian households have 2-3 cars and motorcycles parked at their porches, as the family prefer to drive around since their cars are way cheaper. I feel it’s best to retire in your own country if you have lived most of your life in Singapore as nothing beats the familiarity and sense of belonging. Think about the flush of emotions that encompass you on arrival at Changi Airport whenever you return home from your overseas trips. In your heart, you probably chant out “It’s great to be home”. That’s exactly what I mean. This sense of belonging is so comforting and re-assuring. At least, in my own country during my old age, I know I’m going to be well taken care of and enjoy the rights and privileges of my citizenship here. In another country, you’re just a guest, worse, face discrimination even if you may not be aware of! 😅
I went to Jb a few times, I don’t agree the food is better than Singapore, just cheaper. The best food in Malaysia is in KL or Penang, definitely not JB. Yes food is tastier in Malaysia but note Malaysian food tends to be saltier and more unhealthy, difficult to find healthier options like in Singapore. I dont’t know about JB but when I was staying in KL, national parks there are not safe to walk at, many motorcycle gangs like to gather there. I felt very unsafe even in broad daylight. When I came back to Singapore, the feeling of walking free and safe even at night at parks is something I would never give up
Rats love Singapore parks. Except botanical gardens. NP ensure no rats. Other parks, lots n lots of rats. NP couldn’t be bothered. They throw the problem to NEA.
Agree. Their food is always dark Iin colour, oily, spicy, salty. Sorry, totally not for me. I hv friends sharing the same opinion too. I think the cheap price just makes people go crazy. Their taste buds have been compromised due to the cheap bills without them knowing.
I ever lived in Perak, Kelantan, Sabah, England, Singapore. Living in Kelantan,England and Singapore are wonderful experience for me but moving to Johor is my greatest regret . I experienced robbery , theft, scams, car loss , defraud by estate after after living Johor Bahru 4 years.
I prefer to retire in SG. Make 1 to 2 day trips per month to JB for a short get away. I don’t think I like to up keep and maintain 2 houses during my retirement. Physically too demanding at old age. I prefer to do more trips to other parts of the world for better experiences than confined just across the causeway.
Usually, people in Malaysia own cars and don't walk around much. Some families have a household income of less than SGD 2,500 per month but still own two Toyota cars, a beautiful landed double-storey house, and have three schooling children, as the cost of living in Malaysia is cheap and salaries are not high.
that's what i thought too when i watched the video. Firstly, i dont really feel msia is hotter than SG. 2nd, to your point, most in msia drive and they are not exposed to the hot weather much. In SG, many could not afford private transport and hence need to travel without driving and hence u get more exposure to the sun, rain etc
The grass is always greener outside. So many Singaporean complain the place is overcrowded. So people leaving Singapore to go over will be a blessing for the rest of us.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
From rat race to race to causeway race... Life should be peaceful and calm when we reach retirement. What Singaporeans should do to prepare for retirement while accumulating wealth is to reduce excessive, unnecessary desires and expenditures... Plus unnecessary social activities.
Life is not that long. When u retired just choose a place that is safe, orderly and wholesome to settle in. SG has all the above criteria. When u r old food safety is another concern
Anyone who wants to live in Malaysia or any parts of it must at least know how to drive. You must own a car. It doesn't work like in SG where anyone can just hop onto a bus or MRT to get to the destinations.
Thank you for your very good upfront alert especially on safety & security. Also not to forget the yearly heavy flooding and the notorious traffic & drivers' attitude there... big, heavy vehicles will not give way to smaller vehicles.
Good insight. Having stayed in Penang for 20+ years, I fully agree with Mr Loo. I had started to shuttle between Malaysia and Singapore (staying a few months in each place each time) since about 3 years ago. It is not sustainable based on my personal experience; too tiring and one cannot commit long term to some activity/plan in each place. If one reaches the stage of old age when independent mobility is an issue, one won't want to live in Malaysia.
Great that you have started a nomadic way of living. (Not too great if its not in retirement 😅). I am also planning to do so when I retire in another year or two. It is definitely not going to be cheaper given the travelling & rental costs every other month, but it'll hardly be boring I should think. And not confined to JB, but to shuttle around Malaysia & the regional countries using our home as a base to recuperate and plan. I guess when it gets tiring, one can just slow down & holiday less. 😅 Maybe in doing so I'll appreciate Singapore more ... and settle into my final resting place. 😂 (I guess most would want to come back eventually)....
This is not a well researched or prepared posting. The subject is "retire in JB". Then he talks about having to negotiate customs and immigration. Whether one can accept living in JB on retirement (for a Singaporean) depends very much on an individual's personality, character and maturity. Over eating is not a problem with the cost of living but one's discipline. Food is a personal preference and taste cultivation over a long time. Adequate roads and parks are available in most Tamans in JB for walking/jogging provided one doesn't expect linkways between Tamans. I agree that walking paths are inadequately provided for along most roads. But does anyone want to walk along roads? In the city area one can walk almost anywhere within the city limit. Another area that I agree with the author is a less than desirable security for property and personnel. However, one can reduce the incidence encountering such experience through intelligent measures in protection, or not attracting unwanted attention. Having a positive attitude is essential to enjoy living anywhere.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Mr Loo, you mentioned you have setup a company in Malaysia. Will you have an episode to talk about what is required to set one up and the cost of maintaining it to fulfil the tax and compliance requirements? Do you need a local to partner with you etc? Thank you!
I don’t understand how straddling between 2 houses is money saving 😂 got to pay for and maintain 2 houses. Mr Loo, if I were u, I will just get a nice big condo in Singapore. My children will visit me more often if my condo compound is fun and have lots of space to run around. My grandma stayed in a cluster landed house with condo facilities. Every Sunday, all her grandchildren visit and gather at her house. I am very close to my cousins as we all grew up together, spending all Sundays together.
Mr Loo, I can imagine that if you stay in JB, your grandkids will hardly pay u a visit 😅 u don’t understand how busy kids are nowadays. They can’t afford to spend time stuck at the causeway for hours. Neither is it healthy for them to travel at midnight like u do.
I am an old lady and can afford to get a house in JB but I still prefer to stay in Singapore for convenience to move about and safety for My chn and grandchildren
1) JB could feel hotter because of vast land, low-rise buildings, shopping malls, houses all widely spread out over. Whereas sg with lots of closely highrise buildings with air-conditioning all over. Lots of highrise buildings also block out the sunlight and feels cooler. Also mostly with green around and covered walkways. 2) Retirement in JB is very subjective. It's up to individual/family preference, situations, needs, choices and wise decisions. 3) As the saying goes - love/money makes the world go round! Important you/family are happy!😊🙏
I did stayed in my friends' house in JB 25 yrs ago..lt is true JB is really hot and the air is quite stifling at night.....tks for you good advice....swamhiji
it is hotter. hospital and government service standard 'not as good'(polite way to put it). don't feel safe(at home, on the street, etc). sacrifice all these for 30% discount on food?
Katak di bawa tempurung! Please come to JB and feel it for yourself. Don't simply make comments without the facts. JB is not like 20 years ago. We didn't force you to retire in JB/Malaysia. It is a good gesture and free will. Tks.
There is no perfect world or places to live. Do with what you have and make the best out of it. Be wise and your freedom with right choices and be happy for yourself or family. Tks.
Financial freedom means more means to decide choices available and more room to try out things without worrying about cost. Free to travel as much and free to stay anywhere one choose and free to decide how long to stay and spend. - Thats truly financial FREEDOM
Good for you. Singapore need more people like you to earn more, pay more taxes to fund the ageing population health care and foreigners education. Well done! Good and faithful citizen. 👍
Dear Mr Loo. I'm sure many people are aware of your wealth. Considering your high profile, I don't think it's advisable for you to frequent Johor Bahru (JB) due to safety concerns.
Imagine some criminals also watching this video, they will target to kidnap him and his wife. End up have to do final youtube video. They even know where he stays.
done the weekend home thing for more than 10 years. glad to have sold my JB prop. the biggest gripe is crossing the borders. traffic, small lanes, inconsiderate drivers etc. not good for karma.
Many do not realise that Singapore air quality especially near the West is not too great. It has high particulate count level in the air from all the chimney stacks. High particulate in the air has the effect of filtering the intensity of the sun. Those who had worked in the West of Singapore will know that it is quite hard to get a bad sunburn even when working under the cloudless afternoon sun. Unlike, say a location that has no nearby heavy industries. e.g. a beach resort in Malaysia. The afternoon sun intensity there is typical of a tropical climate regardless of the number of trees there. Given a choice I believe many of us would rather just apply more sunblock outside than having particulates imbedded inside our lungs.
As we grow older we need to get a domestic helper . You will be surprised how much you have to pay to government to hire a foreign domestic helper and this cost is tied to one individual helper. If she decides to leave you start all over again paying another high fees to government and agent. So those thinking of staying in big bungalows have to factor in this cost. As for MM2H you have to pay agents RM40,000 just to bring your application to Putrajaya and submit. Given the newly revised scheme the take up rate has been extremely low with conditions governing the scheme evolving all the time so participants have to cope with these frequent changes when they need to renew their visas every 5 years
All your points are good and valid. The issue is that this is a rich man problem, or businessman like you, not for ordinary folks. Rich and certain earners will have these FIRST WORLD problems Other than that no way. lol
Malaysia is big. Why only retire in Johor only. Why only focus on trees roads and weather. Here we don't necessarily live in flats apartments like bird nests so only disturbing mentally. Here easily own big houses with all amenities available with big lands so gardening or sweating out in yr garden keeps you healthy mentally. Also here so much food and choices but be disciplined. If overeating it surely shortens yr lives. Why kill yrself. Control what you eat n stay healthy.
Without any valid MM2H or valid residential pass, we are limited to 90days per year to MY, any stay beyond that is at the mercy of the immigration officer.
Those people who bought properties in Malaysia will soon realize they cannot even stay in their own house. But still have to continue paying property taxes! LOL.
@@anglo-saxonconnor817 They obviously did not want retirees but tourists, their MM2H is unbelievably strict and expensive basically they are saying we want your money but we don't want you to live here long term and profit from our properties.
On your point on food and overeat. It's just a phase , once you stay there over a period of time you will have better control especially craving to cook n eat fresh produce in a healthy way.
It is still too close to Singapore which will still eventually be swamp by singaporeans and johore will quickly turn into the same as Singapore in terms of living cost. To avoid this effect and enjoy a very good retirement must move further up north. Can be Malaysia, Thailand or even into yunnan if needed. The higher you shift up the more beautiful the olaces are actually if people have travelled before.
i as Malaysian totally agree with you. to my fellow friend from sg, dont come malaysia. it not safe for you and family. go to batam or other country ok. malaysia really appreciate it😂
If you are retiring, why do you restrict your options of only staying in JB. Do you need to commute everyday back to SG? Retired ... you can stay anywhere else cheaper and safer. If you expand your choices it can easily find a place to stay that meets your criteria. If cool weather you are looking for look at places such as Cameron Highlands or Genting; if you like beaches - Langkawi (Tax Free Haven with beautiful beaches.)
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
i don't know about Genting but definitely NOT Cameron Highlands. I have a friend who lived in Cameron Highlands and the traffic jam is horrendous now. The road is jammed with lots of tourist bus and the road has not been upgraded to take on the new traffic.
Want to live longer eat 70% full and everything in moderation. If you are 70years old but have a body of a 90 years old, better think twice retiring in Malaysia especially if you need to go in and out of S'pore n Malaysia very frequently. Mr Loo did brought up several valued reasons for us to consider. 👍
有国才有家,有家才有国, nothing wrong if anyone choose to leave Singapore but as a Singaporean promoting it on Media don't seem right, Chinese educated for better answers. 平常心don't need to be too smart on everything. My simple thinking only. 🙏 🙏 🙏 Thanks
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
@@Jaymore639 Might as well learn driving over there, maybe easier to pass. a mode of transport is needed to live there, at least a car or bike is more affordable there, when in Rome live as the romans do. Be it Rts or Hsr, in the future it is going to be very crowded, right now woodlands mrt and tel is crowded with trains going to the city while those towards woodlands north is sparse. Likewise for je and boon lay mrt. These 2 towns are flooded with people.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Yes is true. My Uncle retire in JB last time. A few years into his Retirement, he got violently murdered. To this day they still couldn't find his Head. 🙂
Singaporeans have chosen Malaysia's cities as their retirement destination due to the lower cost of living and the standard of living, which ranks at number 2 or 3 in ASEAN. If the standard of living is the same Singaporean will choose Batam as their retirement destination.😊
My personal thoughts are as follows. Will travel JB or beyond upon RTS completion n in operation by end of 2026. Then I will use the convenient method to go over for leisure. And of course making use of the exchange rate to maximise my lifestyle. Then after that go back home to Singapore n sleep peacefully.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
The International Living's Annual Global Retirement Index 2024 listed Malaysia as among the 10 best places to retire, surpassing France.. well deserved recognition. Tks
Singapore cools its city through a combination of innovative strategies that go beyond greenery and shaded walkways. Green buildings, district cooling systems and employs smart urban design to enhance natural airflow. Light-colored surfaces are used extensively to reflect heat, while water features and cool pavements help regulate temperatures. Additionally, Singapore reduces car dependency by prioritizing public transport, cutting down on emissions and heat from vehicles. Despite these efforts, many still complain and prefer JB.
Hello Mr Loo, I am wondering if you can do a video on what you think would be the potential impact of RTS line on Sg economy? In particular I think property prices will be affected because Malaysians will be less willing to rent in Sg. What do you think?
The problem is when you are old and not being able to drive to and from jb sg for health check up coz we dont want to inconvenient our family in singapore to fetch us and send us back in JB ..their public transport in JB is a nightmare..to buy groceries etc is challenging without own transport
Every trip I made to JB, I will come back sick. The latest one was dengue. Damn it. If it isn’t for work, I won’t cross the causeway! 🙄 Food in JB is not that great and priced for Singaporean. Kena ketuk big time!
I think I have to agree with what you shared in the video, however if given a choice only to stay in JB or Singapore, I think the economic considerations favours JB greatly.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
As a Sgrean working in JB. 1) True, JB is hotter then SG 2) Food depends and subjective. But once you stay and live in foreign country you will tend to think about cost. Cannot be evevryday eating seafood dish also. Been telling people that, for me malaysia street burger is the best but if prata sg is the best. 3) Durian SG is nicer to my taste price depens on where you go. KG durian is also nice and cheaper. 4) To socialise - if you are friendly and have that energy to move around then its good but if not better get a hobby 5) Tax is complicated especially for an employment pass. If any kind words or advice pls do so. 6) Not sure how can a person say SG passport is strong when an sg going Aus also need to apply visa, getting work permit in Malaysia also very hard (at least according to the company) 7) Agreed on the security, need to improve. 8) Work ethics, very laid back. Too many of the (CABLE).
used to have singapore ministers telling off unhappy singaporeans to immigrate to other countries or live in retirement homes in jb. i think these ministers have residentships and overseas properties too.
JB food is affordable if you earn in S$. If you are Singaporean working in Sg, you don’t go out to eat as you would be working. You go JB, you probably not working there so you will go shopping with family and go for food. You feel relax as you are not working.
YES you are correct. I am frequent visitor in KL and Penang too. Yes walking is not encouraged in day time as there are less trees and no walkway. The estate design kind of trap the heat within the living space Penang has more trees thus is more cooling than KL and JB
Of all the cities in Malaysia KL is the coolest, cooler by 1.5 - 2 degrees celcius compared to other towns and cities due to big greenery, lakes and parks. People mostly walk or exercise in the gym because all condos and stratified landed homes have gym facilities. For outdoor, people walk in the park in the early morning or late evening when it is not hot and sunny. Food can be controlled. Now, young people are very health conscious and eat heathily. Plenty of fruits and vegetables. For Christians not much of a problem. It is big social circle in the church. For Buddhist it will be with group of senior citizens who exercise daily every morning in the park. MM2H visa is more complicated and expensive: There are 56,000 active pass holders from MM2H. Not a huge participants: China - 24,765 (44%) Australia - 9,265 South Korea - 4,940 Japan - 4,733 Bangladesh - 3,604 UK - 2,234 Taiwan - 1,000 US - 1,000 India - 1,000 Singapore - 1,000 Safety, no other countries can match.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Food in other part of malaysia is much better than JB. Retirement straddling between Singapore and JB is a better option when u still fit and healthy. But when getting older and unable to drive...that is a different scenario.
Singapore is pedestrain friendly but not car friendly cos most people use public transport...JB is car friendly but not pedestrain friendly cos everybody use car/motorcycle....
JB is not even as mature as Ipoh, Perak (chinese town) who have lots of food eateries as Singapore and mature in every residential towns connected with MRT city rail convenience. Its a cultural mix Malays and Chinese and many public facilities are not culturally build ideally for Chinese but for Malays and area to one area is far and all citizens have to drive. But grocer wise a win situation, cheaper. And in terms of public security is not as best compare to Singapore. I disagree when you comparing the difference of the weather. I have travel both Singapore and Johor don't feel any differences.
As an Ex Malaysian I fully agree with you. Think of the most important thing before moving there i.e yours and family SAFETY.
It’s not just JB, the whole of Malaysia, except the highlands, is much hotter than Singapore. That’s because their towns and cities have lesser trees and not landscaped. They have less towering buildings as the land is large and widely spaced out. Walking on the streets of Malaysia can really darken your skin. That’s why the Malaysians are more tanned than Singaporeans. The islands like Penang, Tioman, Langkawi are much more scorching hot and I got sun burnt even though I use sunscreens. 😅
In big countries, getting from one place to another is more inconvenient and time consuming if they don’t have MRT. Owning a car is the most efficient way to get around. That’s why most Malaysians drive and you don’t see many people walking on the streets outside the city areas except the silly foreigners! 😅Some Malaysian households have 2-3 cars and motorcycles parked at their porches, as the family prefer to drive around since their cars are way cheaper.
I feel it’s best to retire in your own country if you have lived most of your life in Singapore as nothing beats the familiarity and sense of belonging. Think about the flush of emotions that encompass you on arrival at Changi Airport whenever you return home from your overseas trips. In your heart, you probably chant out “It’s great to be home”. That’s exactly what I mean. This sense of belonging is so comforting and re-assuring. At least, in my own country during my old age, I know I’m going to be well taken care of and enjoy the rights and privileges of my citizenship here. In another country, you’re just a guest, worse, face discrimination even if you may not be aware of! 😅
I, especially, like your last paragraph. Same sentiments.
Comerrrrrom highland
Well said...there's no place like home 😊
Yes.👍💯💢totally agreed.
I went to Jb a few times, I don’t agree the food is better than Singapore, just cheaper. The best food in Malaysia is in KL or Penang, definitely not JB. Yes food is tastier in Malaysia but note Malaysian food tends to be saltier and more unhealthy, difficult to find healthier options like in Singapore.
I dont’t know about JB but when I was staying in KL, national parks there are not safe to walk at, many motorcycle gangs like to gather there. I felt very unsafe even in broad daylight. When I came back to Singapore, the feeling of walking free and safe even at night at parks is something I would never give up
The food MAY taste better because they use lots of MSG
The crime rate at JB very high. Robbery and rape case occur everyday.
Malaysia is one of Islamic country in Asia . Should be safe place to live. If I am not wrong.
Rats love Singapore parks. Except botanical gardens. NP ensure no rats. Other parks, lots n lots of rats. NP couldn’t be bothered. They throw the problem to NEA.
Agree. Their food is always dark Iin colour, oily, spicy, salty. Sorry, totally not for me. I hv friends sharing the same opinion too. I think the cheap price just makes people go crazy. Their taste buds have been compromised due to the cheap bills without them knowing.
I ever lived in Perak, Kelantan, Sabah, England, Singapore. Living in Kelantan,England and Singapore are wonderful experience for me but moving to Johor is my greatest regret . I experienced robbery , theft, scams, car loss , defraud by estate after after living Johor Bahru 4 years.
I prefer to retire in SG. Make 1 to 2 day trips per month to JB for a short get away. I don’t think I like to up keep and maintain 2 houses during my retirement. Physically too demanding at old age. I prefer to do more trips to other parts of the world for better experiences than confined just across the causeway.
That’s true but I am really sick of travelling globally
Singapore 👍🏻
So do I.
Usually, people in Malaysia own cars and don't walk around much. Some families have a household income of less than SGD 2,500 per month but still own two Toyota cars, a beautiful landed double-storey house, and have three schooling children, as the cost of living in Malaysia is cheap and salaries are not high.
that's what i thought too when i watched the video. Firstly, i dont really feel msia is hotter than SG. 2nd, to your point, most in msia drive and they are not exposed to the hot weather much. In SG, many could not afford private transport and hence need to travel without driving and hence u get more exposure to the sun, rain etc
The grass is always greener outside. So many Singaporean complain the place is overcrowded. So people leaving Singapore to go over will be a blessing for the rest of us.
While the food in JB is priced low and affordable, I've noticed a decline in quality due to the use of less-fresh ingredients.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
I know of people who migrated to another country and discovered later on that they were isolated with no real friends in a foreign culture.
Guess it is better for introverts.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Agreed. Overseas feel lonely and boring, weather issues which in Singapore we don't have to worry about cold weather, typhoon, earthquake , racism
From rat race to race to causeway race... Life should be peaceful and calm when we reach retirement. What Singaporeans should do to prepare for retirement while accumulating wealth is to reduce excessive, unnecessary desires and expenditures... Plus unnecessary social activities.
Life is not that long. When u retired just choose a place that is safe, orderly and wholesome to settle in. SG has all the above criteria. When u r old food safety is another concern
Anyone who wants to live in Malaysia or any parts of it must at least know how to drive. You must own a car. It doesn't work like in SG where anyone can just hop onto a bus or MRT to get to the destinations.
As for greenery in JB, it depends where you live. I aam surrounded by trees and green. And I am 4 mins from the checkpoint.
Yes! Agree, weather is very hot & humid…don’t feel like walking outdoors.
Very informative and eye opening for many.Thank you
Most say they want to retire in JB, I’ve heard this for 30 years n they are still talking, no action 😂
Thank you for your very good upfront alert especially on safety & security. Also not to forget the yearly heavy flooding and the notorious traffic & drivers' attitude there... big, heavy vehicles will not give way to smaller vehicles.
If you already own a 300 sq m dwelling mortgage free and have more than SGD 5 million cash, it makes no sense to leave Singapore for JB.
Two other reasons not to retire in JB ... frequent floods and inconvenient public transportation
3rd reason, need to prepare kopi money time to time...
buy cheap car in JB
My relative once told me - if u had not encountered a case robbery or thief at least once in yr lifetime then u r not Malaysian 😂
@@father88888 is that a good or bad thing?
@@1m65 bad thing if ppl prefer tea....
Good insight. Having stayed in Penang for 20+ years, I fully agree with Mr Loo.
I had started to shuttle between Malaysia and Singapore (staying a few months in each place each time) since about 3 years ago. It is not sustainable based on my personal experience; too tiring and one cannot commit long term to some activity/plan in each place.
If one reaches the stage of old age when independent mobility is an issue, one won't want to live in Malaysia.
Oh I would love to know more about your experience. Can interview you? Loochengchuan@gmail.com
Great that you have started a nomadic way of living. (Not too great if its not in retirement 😅). I am also planning to do so when I retire in another year or two. It is definitely not going to be cheaper given the travelling & rental costs every other month, but it'll hardly be boring I should think. And not confined to JB, but to shuttle around Malaysia & the regional countries using our home as a base to recuperate and plan. I guess when it gets tiring, one can just slow down & holiday less. 😅
Maybe in doing so I'll appreciate Singapore more ... and settle into my final resting place. 😂 (I guess most would want to come back eventually)....
This is not a well researched or prepared posting.
The subject is "retire in JB". Then he talks about having to negotiate customs and immigration.
Whether one can accept living in JB on retirement (for a Singaporean) depends very much on an individual's personality, character and maturity.
Over eating is not a problem with the cost of living but one's discipline.
Food is a personal preference and taste cultivation over a long time.
Adequate roads and parks are available in most Tamans in JB for walking/jogging provided one doesn't expect linkways between Tamans.
I agree that walking paths are inadequately provided for along most roads. But does anyone want to walk along roads? In the city area one can walk almost anywhere within the city limit.
Another area that I agree with the author is a less than desirable security for property and personnel. However, one can reduce the incidence encountering such experience through intelligent measures in protection, or not attracting unwanted attention.
Having a positive attitude is essential to enjoy living anywhere.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Mr Loo, you mentioned you have setup a company in Malaysia. Will you have an episode to talk about what is required to set one up and the cost of maintaining it to fulfil the tax and compliance requirements? Do you need a local to partner with you etc? Thank you!
Go anywhere also must have money, if U insufficient go anywhere also difficult 😢😂
Safety is one reason good enough to stay away from it
I don’t understand how straddling between 2 houses is money saving 😂 got to pay for and maintain 2 houses. Mr Loo, if I were u, I will just get a nice big condo in Singapore. My children will visit me more often if my condo compound is fun and have lots of space to run around. My grandma stayed in a cluster landed house with condo facilities. Every Sunday, all her grandchildren visit and gather at her house. I am very close to my cousins as we all grew up together, spending all Sundays together.
@@anonymouslycute7801 that is becos you have money. What abt the average Singaporean ?
Mr Loo, I can imagine that if you stay in JB, your grandkids will hardly pay u a visit 😅 u don’t understand how busy kids are nowadays. They can’t afford to spend time stuck at the causeway for hours. Neither is it healthy for them to travel at midnight like u do.
That’s what I bought two units at my River Valley condos in SG for my two families and grandchildren to stay together and connected
I am an old lady and can afford to get a house in JB but I still prefer to stay in Singapore for convenience to move about and safety for
My chn and grandchildren
1) JB could feel hotter because of vast land, low-rise buildings, shopping malls, houses all widely spread out over. Whereas sg with lots of closely highrise buildings with air-conditioning all over. Lots of highrise buildings also block out the sunlight and feels cooler. Also mostly with green around and covered walkways.
2) Retirement in JB is very subjective. It's up to individual/family preference, situations, needs, choices and wise decisions.
3) As the saying goes - love/money makes the world go round! Important you/family are happy!😊🙏
yes, the intentional greenery interleaved into urban areas in SG definitely helps in lowering temperature, good for our eyes, and provides shade.
I did stayed in my friends' house in JB 25 yrs ago..lt is true JB is really hot and the air is quite stifling at night.....tks for you good advice....swamhiji
it is hotter. hospital and government service standard 'not as good'(polite way to put it). don't feel safe(at home, on the street, etc). sacrifice all these for 30% discount on food?
Katak di bawa tempurung! Please come to JB and feel it for yourself. Don't simply make comments without the facts. JB is not like 20 years ago. We didn't force you to retire in JB/Malaysia. It is a good gesture and free will. Tks.
There is no perfect world or places to live. Do with what you have and make the best out of it. Be wise and your freedom with right choices and be happy for yourself or family. Tks.
Malacca is best for retirement. Sandwiched between KL & Singapore, I usually take a private taxi from Singapore to Malacca.
Financial freedom means more means to decide choices available and more room to try out things without worrying about cost. Free to travel as much and free to stay anywhere one choose and free to decide how long to stay and spend. - Thats truly financial FREEDOM
Living in sg is good. No need to retire in jb
As a Johorean I absolutely agree. Just stay put in your own country, please don't criticize JB.
@@habibahjaffar4387biasalah bos. typical Singaporean. they think jb must same as singapore on everything.
Good for you. Singapore need more people like you to earn more, pay more taxes to fund the ageing population health care and foreigners education. Well done! Good and faithful citizen. 👍
Dear Mr Loo. I'm sure many people are aware of your wealth. Considering your high profile, I don't think it's advisable for you to frequent Johor Bahru (JB) due to safety concerns.
forgotten 3R issues
Thank u very much for your concern
Imagine some criminals also watching this video, they will target to kidnap him and his wife. End up have to do final youtube video. They even know where he stays.
@@marvelcomiks8078😂😂😂😂
done the weekend home thing for more than 10 years. glad to have sold my JB prop. the biggest gripe is crossing the borders. traffic, small lanes, inconsiderate drivers etc. not good for karma.
Many do not realise that Singapore air quality especially near the West is not too great. It has high particulate count level in the air from all the chimney stacks. High particulate in the air has the effect of filtering the intensity of the sun. Those who had worked in the West of Singapore will know that it is quite hard to get a bad sunburn even when working under the cloudless afternoon sun. Unlike, say a location that has no nearby heavy industries. e.g. a beach resort in Malaysia. The afternoon sun intensity there is typical of a tropical climate regardless of the number of trees there. Given a choice I believe many of us would rather just apply more sunblock outside than having particulates imbedded inside our lungs.
As we grow older we need to get a domestic helper . You will be surprised how much you have to pay to government to hire a foreign domestic helper and this cost is tied to one individual helper. If she decides to leave you start all over again paying another high fees to government and agent. So those thinking of staying in big bungalows have to factor in this cost.
As for MM2H you have to pay agents RM40,000 just to bring your application to Putrajaya and submit. Given the newly revised scheme the take up rate has been extremely low with conditions governing the scheme evolving all the time so participants have to cope with these frequent changes when they need to renew their visas every 5 years
All your points are good and valid. The issue is that this is a rich man problem, or businessman like you, not for ordinary folks. Rich and certain earners will have these FIRST WORLD problems Other than that no way. lol
Malaysia is big. Why only retire in Johor only. Why only focus on trees roads and weather. Here we don't necessarily live in flats apartments like bird nests so only disturbing mentally. Here easily own big houses with all amenities available with big lands so gardening or sweating out in yr garden keeps you healthy mentally. Also here so much food and choices but be disciplined. If overeating it surely shortens yr lives. Why kill yrself. Control what you eat n stay healthy.
Straddling means must live in 2 properties, then cannot rent one out already.
Without any valid MM2H or valid residential pass, we are limited to 90days per year to MY, any stay beyond that is at the mercy of the immigration officer.
Yes yes yes. I spoke of this countless times before. They think retiring in Malaysia is like going to a shopping centre. Lol
Those people who bought properties in Malaysia will soon realize they cannot even stay in their own house. But still have to continue paying property taxes! LOL.
exactly! how to "straddle" like he says?? 🤣🤣🤣
@@anglo-saxonconnor817 They obviously did not want retirees but tourists, their MM2H is unbelievably strict and expensive basically they are saying we want your money but we don't want you to live here long term and profit from our properties.
On your point on food and overeat. It's just a phase , once you stay there over a period of time you will have better control especially craving to cook n eat fresh produce in a healthy way.
Thank you for your great advise.
It is still too close to Singapore which will still eventually be swamp by singaporeans and johore will quickly turn into the same as Singapore in terms of living cost.
To avoid this effect and enjoy a very good retirement must move further up north.
Can be Malaysia, Thailand or even into yunnan if needed. The higher you shift up the more beautiful the olaces are actually if people have travelled before.
i as Malaysian totally agree with you. to my fellow friend from sg, dont come malaysia. it not safe for you and family. go to batam or other country ok. malaysia really appreciate it😂
I think Kuching is many times better than JB.
Difference is a plane ticket as opposed to a car travelling to Causeway
If you are retiring, why do you restrict your options of only staying in JB. Do you need to commute everyday back to SG? Retired ... you can stay anywhere else cheaper and safer. If you expand your choices it can easily find a place to stay that meets your criteria. If cool weather you are looking for look at places such as Cameron Highlands or Genting; if you like beaches - Langkawi (Tax Free Haven with beautiful beaches.)
Far lah….
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
i don't know about Genting but definitely NOT Cameron Highlands. I have a friend who lived in Cameron Highlands and the traffic jam is horrendous now. The road is jammed with lots of tourist bus and the road has not been upgraded to take on the new traffic.
Want to live longer eat 70% full and everything in moderation. If you are 70years old but have a body of a 90 years old, better think twice retiring in Malaysia especially if you need to go in and out of S'pore n Malaysia very frequently. Mr Loo did brought up several valued reasons for us to consider. 👍
有国才有家,有家才有国, nothing wrong if anyone choose to leave Singapore but as a Singaporean promoting it on Media don't seem right, Chinese educated for better answers. 平常心don't need to be too smart on everything. My simple thinking only. 🙏 🙏 🙏 Thanks
Don’t just move there for retirement, please go and apply for citizenship.
Malaysia pr is minimum 10 years stay and you contribute to the country. Citizen is no way, unless marriage.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
It is trees. Singapore has planted countless trees that help to cool and filter the environment.
Yes the greenery do help in bring down temperature. Every tree has a cooling power of an average aircondition.
Actually those who do not drive should not consider retirement in Malaysia.
RTS coming
Got private hired Grab ?
Grab is quite affordable.but it u are a car lover like me then it’s a ideal place
@@Jaymore639 Might as well learn driving over there, maybe easier to pass. a mode of transport is needed to live there, at least a car or bike is more affordable there, when in Rome live as the romans do. Be it Rts or Hsr, in the future it is going to be very crowded, right now woodlands mrt and tel is crowded with trains going to the city while those towards woodlands north is sparse. Likewise for je and boon lay mrt. These 2 towns are flooded with people.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
A lot of scam and crimes in Malaysia.
I read CNA & The STdaily also reported lots of scams going.. true or not?
Yes is true. My Uncle retire in JB last time. A few years into his Retirement, he got violently murdered. To this day they still couldn't find his Head. 🙂
Singaporeans have chosen Malaysia's cities as their retirement destination due to the lower cost of living and the standard of living, which ranks at number 2 or 3 in ASEAN.
If the standard of living is the same Singaporean will choose Batam as their retirement destination.😊
My personal thoughts are as follows. Will travel JB or beyond upon RTS completion n in operation by end of 2026. Then I will use the convenient method to go over for leisure. And of course making use of the exchange rate to maximise my lifestyle. Then after that go back home to Singapore n sleep peacefully.
Yes that is a nice lifestyle also!
sigh. most of the reasons here can be overcome. making a big deal.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
@@jon8697 you are exaggerating coz you just dislike Malaysia
Security is a prime detering factor.
The International Living's Annual Global Retirement Index 2024 listed Malaysia as among the 10 best places to retire, surpassing France.. well deserved recognition. Tks
I love spore as transport accessibility is super fast but the fare is rising every end December.
Singapore cools its city through a combination of innovative strategies that go beyond greenery and shaded walkways. Green buildings, district cooling systems and employs smart urban design to enhance natural airflow. Light-colored surfaces are used extensively to reflect heat, while water features and cool pavements help regulate temperatures. Additionally, Singapore reduces car dependency by prioritizing public transport, cutting down on emissions and heat from vehicles. Despite these efforts, many still complain and prefer JB.
I prefer Singapore!
Hello Mr Loo, I am wondering if you can do a video on what you think would be the potential impact of RTS line on Sg economy? In particular I think property prices will be affected because Malaysians will be less willing to rent in Sg. What do you think?
I agree. Sure have impact on rentals
I think those HDB renting out to Malaysians will be impacted greatly
Medical support is a big consideration..no subsidies in JB when u fall ill and in emergency
jb private healthcare is so much more affordable than singapore's
The problem is when you are old and not being able to drive to and from jb sg for health check up coz we dont want to inconvenient our family in singapore to fetch us and send us back in JB ..their public transport in JB is a nightmare..to buy groceries etc is challenging without own transport
best all relocate to JB, then SG will be less crowded lol
Gd idea 😅
JB will be more vibrant.
Great. Singapore residential property prices will go down and I will be going in for cheap sale.
Next time we will be switching places with the malaysians, most of us will be living in jb and they will live in sg.
Every trip I made to JB, I will come back sick. The latest one was dengue. Damn it. If it isn’t for work, I won’t cross the causeway! 🙄 Food in JB is not that great and priced for Singaporean. Kena ketuk big time!
if you are on a wheelchair, wonder how are you going to move around in JB?
I am not going to be on a wheel chair.
@@1m65 Talking abt retirement. That means old already. Need wheelchair or not is not dictated by you but by your health.
I think I have to agree with what you shared in the video, however if given a choice only to stay in JB or Singapore, I think the economic considerations favours JB greatly.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
Really?
Another reason : Ringgit recovering, so costs of living will close up to SG!
I wonder if those Malaysians working in sg will vote for PN if Anwar did a great job and ringgit keeps on strengthening against Sing dollars.
As a Sgrean working in JB.
1) True, JB is hotter then SG
2) Food depends and subjective. But once you stay and live in foreign country you will tend to think about cost. Cannot be evevryday eating seafood dish also. Been telling people that, for me malaysia street burger is the best but if prata sg is the best.
3) Durian SG is nicer to my taste price depens on where you go. KG durian is also nice and cheaper.
4) To socialise - if you are friendly and have that energy to move around then its good but if not better get a hobby
5) Tax is complicated especially for an employment pass. If any kind words or advice pls do so.
6) Not sure how can a person say SG passport is strong when an sg going Aus also need to apply visa, getting work permit in Malaysia also very hard (at least according to the company)
7) Agreed on the security, need to improve.
8) Work ethics, very laid back. Too many of the (CABLE).
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We need to get our government to be conscious of living costs for laymen.
used to have singapore ministers telling off unhappy singaporeans to immigrate to other countries or live in retirement homes in jb. i think these ministers have residentships and overseas properties too.
JB food is affordable if you earn in S$. If you are Singaporean working in Sg, you don’t go out to eat as you would be working. You go JB, you probably not working there so you will go shopping with family and go for food. You feel relax as you are not working.
Retiring in JB depend on how much you earn & what you really want in life.
Work in Singapore Retire in Malaysia 😊
Now malaysia things no more as cheap as before.
Agree and Disagree. To each his own. Aging gracefully and not boringly
Valid points brought up. Please share where to eat good durian in JB, Mr Loo
Ha ha…. Durian very bad for health, good for the spirit!
YES you are correct. I am frequent visitor in KL and Penang too. Yes walking is not encouraged in day time as there are less trees and no walkway. The estate design kind of trap the heat within the living space
Penang has more trees thus is more cooling than KL and JB
The heat is significantly higher.... I hiding in Aircon most of the time
dont think the food in jb is very nice.
You haven’t try enough of it
@1m65 some were disappointing
SG is an island therefore not as hot as JB during the day. At night inland JB will be cooler than SG.
Just stay in Straits View Condominium - the best condo if you love a big swimming pool. There are few in Singapore than can compare. I swim EVERY DAY
For senior citizens spore is accessible everywhere for medical care unlike JB.
Of all the cities in Malaysia KL is the coolest, cooler by 1.5 - 2 degrees celcius compared to other towns and cities due to big greenery, lakes and parks.
People mostly walk or exercise in the gym because all condos and stratified landed homes have gym facilities. For outdoor, people walk in the park in the early morning or late evening when it is not hot and sunny.
Food can be controlled. Now, young people are very health conscious and eat heathily. Plenty of fruits and vegetables.
For Christians not much of a problem. It is big social circle in the church. For Buddhist it will be with group of senior citizens who exercise daily every morning in the park.
MM2H visa is more complicated and expensive:
There are 56,000 active pass holders from MM2H. Not a huge participants:
China - 24,765 (44%)
Australia - 9,265
South Korea - 4,940
Japan - 4,733
Bangladesh - 3,604
UK - 2,234
Taiwan - 1,000
US - 1,000
India - 1,000
Singapore - 1,000
Safety, no other countries can match.
Jb robbery house breaking police corruption policy changes every 5 years racism. Malay first. killed people, sink hole killed people. Flooding every few month (not ponding!) Many dont speaks english. Housing will not go up high to cover. So many negative and yet people like Mr Tan kept promoting forest sity.
it depends on where you stay in JB.... impian emas is very cool as it has a lot of trees everywhere.
Just eat enough and normally will do
Talk shit about JB is hotter than Singapore! Simple temperature measurement will prove the point. Why just talk without simply measuring it !
Mr Loo, you are stressed by Singaporeans to make this video?
No, as I said, the video is inspired by the news article.
Why do you say stressed? What he said is true
I agree with Mr Loo's recommendation at the end of the video! That's why don't sell your home in sg yet!
Roti Prata? Food paradise? Great, big shopping malls; good, fresh and cheap durians. Tourism ambassador.Half Singapore and half JB life style.
Food in other part of malaysia is much better than JB. Retirement straddling between Singapore and JB is a better option when u still fit and healthy. But when getting older and unable to drive...that is a different scenario.
Get a driver when you are old.
Must have enuf $ to maintain 2 homes & a Spore car. So no savings in retirement!
come to Chiang Mai...
Singapore is pedestrain friendly but not car friendly cos most people use public transport...JB is car friendly but not pedestrain friendly cos everybody use car/motorcycle....
In jb one cannot live alone when old,because one need to drive to buy food,etc.,also feel not secure because is belong to malay country.😅
Never consider to retired in foreign land esp Malaysia where racist is everywhere and security is below sea level couple with legal corruption 😮
Beating around the bush with unimportant issues.
Venture into Sarawak and Sabah. That part of Malaysia is more receptive towards Chinese.
What about SOLAR HEAT effects of concrete JUNGLE IN SINGAPORE... NO WHERE IS PERFECT FOR RETIREMENT EXCEPT 6 FEET UNDERGROUND... 🎉😂😅😮
JB is not even as mature as Ipoh, Perak (chinese town) who have lots of food eateries as Singapore and mature in every residential towns connected with MRT city rail convenience. Its a cultural mix Malays and Chinese and many public facilities are not culturally build ideally for Chinese but for Malays and area to one area is far and all citizens have to drive. But grocer wise a win situation, cheaper. And in terms of public security is not as best compare to Singapore. I disagree when you comparing the difference of the weather. I have travel both Singapore and Johor don't feel any differences.