I initiated this interview/concert video. Some facts to it: We filmed in the Maarwegstudio2 in cologne (germany). That is an old, dry sounding studio. The drumset was mine basically (Chris only brought the cymbals). So, the snare is a Horst Link signature 8" deep Bubinga snare from Sonor. The snare really by itself sounds special and can be tuned easily in this direction. Snare bottom (Remo clear super thin reso-head) cranked up and a bit higher than the top. Snare top was - i think - a controlled sound coated from Remo. Maybe it was an Ambassador, I can't remember. The kick is a 20" Gretsch RB (Jasper Shells), very vintage. Filled up between 1/2 and 2/3 with blankets and paper. I think Chris did that by himself, can't remember. It was superdry. I found the setting of the seat (very, very, very high....maximum height) and the setting of the kick-pedal (DW 9000, very fast response...pretty tight screw) very helpful to achieve the style of playing. I tried it after he was gone. He also liked the metallic side-snare (also 8" deep). That is a big chief from Masshoff. So, mainly german brands. Who would've though :-). Cheers, Sönke
I love dilla jazz. I feel like I have to use both sides of my brain to listen to this. Like when you try patting your head and rubbing your stomach at that same time then trying to swap arms while you are doing it. Like this if anyone understands what I mean.
I get that it's a mix between a straight up 4 and a shuffle-type thing, but there's something that is very subtle in the way that Dave does it. When other drummers try to do it, it doesn't sound as connected to the 4/4 as much. It sounds forced. When Dave does it, it sounds like he's literally stretching from the 4/4 and relating it in a way that I can't describe. Love it.
Richard Spaven is also fantastic at this. Basically he’s just using metric modulation, not sure which part you’re referring to specifically but it’s often just switching out of eight notes to eight note triplets which is kind of a strange feeling when you first start doing it or hearing it. Super dope and easy way to get into metric modulation.
you only read that interview where he says just learned the book 4 way coordination from marvin dahlgren.. its in PDF and is short book actually, but there in the last Page you can see full independence with metric modulation using a 9:3:2(2/4) or 18:6:4 in 4/4 pollyrhythms... he doesnt only makes metric modulation, has full independence to make súper mega wierd ochestrsted rhythms just in the basic 4/4 time signature, and if you modulate them in the Poly i said before you can reach that level of perfect detail and control of the sound quality and patterns combinations involved to make an incredible music language, stretching that whole structure, as if any rhythm in any tempo, could be interchangeable with any other in any other tempo
@@newtoncopernicus7011 yeah i know, i,ve been studying this matter for ages, i still think that chris' vocabulary went way farer than any other drummers,
Priceless 🔥What kind of tambourine-thing 😆 is that on top of his chopper (left side) thats not a standard tambourine or a panderio? Has a wood block-ish sound when he rides on it. I need that in my life 😍
Deep snare drum, top and bottom head cranked up high but not choked. Wide open with a 1 ply 10-14 mil head (remo ambassador or something similar probably.) Source: I own a 6.5 brass snare that sounds very similar that’s pitched up high. Cannot stress enough, do not crank the heads as hard as they go or it will just sound really choked and tight.
it’s interesting how he keeps the whole groove of the track together and plays through Chris’ feature.. I don’t know that I would have done the same but respect.
@@lionofistanmusic7311 Yeah here’s one of the most prolific examples of his playing. He often gets buried in the mix so it might be hard to hear. th-cam.com/video/IvmqYZr0RFo/w-d-xo.html
Boy, the look he gave the flautist at the 2:31 mark for not coming in smoothly was vicious. Like it was the one thing that fucked up this masterpiece! I heard someone say Chris Dave's gets a great sound out of his deep sonor snare. He was right, it does sound great. Not crazy about this musical style, but I like the snare sound and "the look". 😂
that's all in your mind, nobody would ever give some in their improvising band that kind of vibe during a taped performance... might as well shoot oneself in the foot.
@@rillloudmother oh, it's deffinately possible it's just in my mind. There is much in this world I see that others dont. It's also possible others just don't see what I do. You would know better than I on the protocols in this style of improv. This style of music is no where on my list of interests. But with practice maybe they'll get better? ; )
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Este batería toca muuuuy bien, PEEEERO el resto de los músicos NO TIENEN LA CULPA. En MI HUMILDE OPINIÓN, es un despropósito musical en el que el ego de un tipo no escucha en absoluto al resto de músicos. No hay ni química ni musicalidad alguna en todo lo que él va interpretando respecto a la melodía que sí expresa algo. Humildemente: espantoso.
You said it right - it's "like" he's in the pocket and then falls out. He can play in the pocket but he's stretching as far as he can. I've heard someone who worked with him say that he tends to rush, and you can hear that he's playing ahead of the beat here, but I can dig it.
You obviously have zero idea what metric modulation is, honestly you probably have no idea what subdivisions even are. Nothing here was off time, if your musical/drumming knowledge isn’t up to speed that is your problem, not Chris Dave’s. If I were you I’d delete this comment, it’s embarrassing on your part.
I just can't dude he's like the little kid that thinks he can play whatever he wants while everyone else is unified just stop it's not innovative it's annoying!
I initiated this interview/concert video. Some facts to it: We filmed in the Maarwegstudio2 in cologne (germany). That is an old, dry sounding studio. The drumset was mine basically (Chris only brought the cymbals). So, the snare is a Horst Link signature 8" deep Bubinga snare from Sonor. The snare really by itself sounds special and can be tuned easily in this direction. Snare bottom (Remo clear super thin reso-head) cranked up and a bit higher than the top. Snare top was - i think - a controlled sound coated from Remo. Maybe it was an Ambassador, I can't remember. The kick is a 20" Gretsch RB (Jasper Shells), very vintage. Filled up between 1/2 and 2/3 with blankets and paper. I think Chris did that by himself, can't remember. It was superdry. I found the setting of the seat (very, very, very high....maximum height) and the setting of the kick-pedal (DW 9000, very fast response...pretty tight screw) very helpful to achieve the style of playing. I tried it after he was gone. He also liked the metallic side-snare (also 8" deep). That is a big chief from Masshoff. So, mainly german brands. Who would've though :-). Cheers, Sönke
Thanks for this info!!
Thank you for sharing! that’s awesome
These guys are the real MVP's for holding it down so well while Chris goes nuts
Exactly
Yes😎
It sounds like Guitar Center on a Saturday afternoon.
thank you!
Lol
chris has the nicest sounding drum kit ever constructed
Indeed. The sharpest, most crisp crunchy snare I’ve ever heard
@@papahawk3644 one of the biggest snares i've seen too, holy hell that thing is deep
@@SLDR23876 an 8 inch or 7 inch depth, but it's cranked so high. I should crank up my deep snaree
It isn't his.
@@papahawk3644Snares in plural
I love dilla jazz. I feel like I have to use both sides of my brain to listen to this. Like when you try patting your head and rubbing your stomach at that same time then trying to swap arms while you are doing it. Like this if anyone understands what I mean.
You ever heard of free jazz? Lol
This song was actually composed by Karriem Riggins, a close friend of J. Dilla. You can hear the radio version on his album "Alone Together"
Yep. We Definitely need both sides of our brain for anything Chris Dave lol
I get that it's a mix between a straight up 4 and a shuffle-type thing, but there's something that is very subtle in the way that Dave does it. When other drummers try to do it, it doesn't sound as connected to the 4/4 as much. It sounds forced. When Dave does it, it sounds like he's literally stretching from the 4/4 and relating it in a way that I can't describe. Love it.
Richard Spaven is also fantastic at this.
Basically he’s just using metric modulation, not sure which part you’re referring to specifically but it’s often just switching out of eight notes to eight note triplets which is kind of a strange feeling when you first start doing it or hearing it. Super dope and easy way to get into metric modulation.
you only read that interview where he says just learned the book 4 way coordination from marvin dahlgren.. its in PDF and is short book actually, but there in the last Page you can see full independence with metric modulation using a 9:3:2(2/4) or 18:6:4 in 4/4 pollyrhythms... he doesnt only makes metric modulation, has full independence to make súper mega wierd ochestrsted rhythms just in the basic 4/4 time signature, and if you modulate them in the Poly i said before you can reach that level of perfect detail and control of the sound quality and patterns combinations involved to make an incredible music language, stretching that whole structure, as if any rhythm in any tempo, could be interchangeable with any other in any other tempo
@@joaluar Steve Smith, Nate Smith (no relation LOL!), Nate Wood are also masters of metric modulation.
@@newtoncopernicus7011 yeah i know, i,ve been studying this matter for ages, i still think that chris' vocabulary went way farer than any other drummers,
JDilla
Couldn't be more natural,, coordinated percussionists." REFERENCE " model for all.Thanks Nicholas
one day i’ll find the HD full screen version of this whole performance and everything will be right
Excellent time keepers!
Thanks so much for adding this! It was removed for a while and drove me crazy. Chris Dave is incredible (as well as the band!).
this is so sick yall, love everyone, as a guitarist love Isaiah Sharkey's playing and his tone, so good
top of the line shit right here boys.
wow that sounds amazing
Whole thing is a clinic, the single left hand roll at 2:28 and the roll at the end still blows my mind
Brilliant concept flawlessly executed, what a joy, big thanks to all involved.
I can see why people hate on this. As a drummer it went over my head, but now I think it’s brilliant.
To be fair, this music is not meant for simpletons or normies
@@devonscope6222 Its music that's also music that is having fun and feeling good. Not to be perfect music
how nice to go wherever rhythmically on a song...nice drums chris. that flute tho
shit shit goes so hard, i love how the drummer had the balls to go waaaaaay out with the rhythm at the beginning, so dope
Interesting ! The Flute sound seems important to me . I've never seen such a sick grip like Mr. Dave's ! But it seems to work.
Wait a minute, are those buzz rolls at the beginning and end supposed to be the scratching of the vinyl?? This dude is a genius!
He is! Though, those are actually single stroke rolls. Dude is cracked
one of the flashiest drum kits i've ever seen. Up there with Bozzio's toms stravaganza.
Thanks for the re upload, thought id never hear this song again!
It's actually a Karriem Riggins song from his recording "Alone Together"
@@Lejiapower its a jdilla song Karriem just sampled it
that grip is crazy im amazed
Dave you been sick man! Damn!
beautyfull sound in the drumns!! yuo sound good gays.
One word: Dope!
Amazed Groovability ... Love It !
so amazingly dope
thanks for that great music and your creativity!
SONOR BUBINGA HORST LINK 8X14 snare. best in the business and sounds amazing here. so jealous!
Thanks exactly what I was looking for, amazing snare.
@@GALLAGHERCYPRISS its also really expensive and really hard to find haha
1,800 for the snare. Jeeezzz
Love it.
Jay Pharoah killing the guitar too!
Thats Isaiah sharke
This is an underrated comment lol.
Hahhahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaah
That's not even funny
I've never wanted to not laugh so much in my life, go take that garbage somewhere else
wow amazing!
this is making me feel very dizzy ... amazing
I'm glad it's his band because if I played like that in any band I'd get the firing squad!
Neal Babbitt Sometimes you just need to walk away.
Those splash cymblass oh ma gawww
oh my god how did i just find this
What is this song?!? The melody is just...intoxicating! Somebody please help a brotha out!
its a cover of karriem riggins j dilla the greatest which is a cover of j dillas track called feat phat kat
Jim Halpert thankumybro
Who needs toms
I want a Snom now!!!
The fkn chordzzzzzz
nikodrumstep Right?!!? He sick wit it!!!
Why does that guitar player look EXACTLY like Jay Pharaoh from Saturday Night Live?
He looks like black Johnny Depp
Slum Village - What we have
"She looks like the female version of x, he looks like the black version of y" White people..
@@elliotbjorksdottir2878 lol what
I can see that.
Austin & Eliot deserve each other.
Love it
Priceless 🔥What kind of tambourine-thing 😆 is that on top of his chopper (left side) thats not a standard tambourine or a panderio? Has a wood block-ish sound when he rides on it. I need that in my life 😍
Slum Village - What we have! I m sure
Featuring Phat Kat. W2D
Q tip
Q-Tip - Move (The bridge part)
Nah Karriem Riggins -J Dilla the Greatest
What's the name of this song? Like how can I find it on Spotify or a variation of?
j dilla the greatest by karriem riggins, based on j dilla's track with phat cat called 'feat' .
2:28 whoa, what made his other snare go "takakakaka" (or something like that even after hitting it?
I'd guess that farthest-left snare he has is mic'd to a channel with a delay only on it as opposed to the rest of the kit
Yea it sounded like there was a marble or something inside it bouncing around after he hit it
I always thought he was doing a single hand roll on the snare with his left, but I think you might be right
Brilliant
🙏🏽
funny how the snare gate was under the threshold!!!!
shredzzzzz
Capital D. O. P. E.
THATS WAR BACKWARDS !!!
🐐🐐🐐
Gather around, the Renaissance man has finally appeared...
that snare sound is amazing. I want it. anyone know how he did this??
Deep snare drum, top and bottom head cranked up high but not choked. Wide open with a 1 ply 10-14 mil head (remo ambassador or something similar probably.)
Source: I own a 6.5 brass snare that sounds very similar that’s pitched up high. Cannot stress enough, do not crank the heads as hard as they go or it will just sound really choked and tight.
крис красавчик уважаю!!! и вмех кт с ним
isaiah at 2:45. oO
it’s interesting how he keeps the whole groove of the track together and plays through Chris’ feature.. I don’t know that I would have done the same but respect.
Nah, he was just grooving with the drummer like Jimmy Page used to groove with John Bonham.
someone knows what type of sonor snare drum does he use?
the wood one that he has between his legs
Why have toms when I can just turn off the snare?
What was the look about @ 2:35?
how did he do that snare delay thing at the end of solo? (2:27) That other snare always has delay on it? WO
One Shoe I think he put a coin or something on it, I see two black circles on it
One snare with a delay in the mix
Sub kick did no justice
#DRUMBOSS
uhhhh guitar at 2:58
David T Walker vibes
@@jwaj I'm not familiar! Link me to something of his that's your favorite
@@lionofistanmusic7311 Yeah here’s one of the most prolific examples of his playing. He often gets buried in the mix so it might be hard to hear. th-cam.com/video/IvmqYZr0RFo/w-d-xo.html
Sinistro ao extremo
Criss what drum set you want for the gig ? Hey any bro just make sure is no toms I don’t like them... More snares like 4-5 will do! Hahaha
whats the attachment on the kick? sounds great
looks like a homemade subkick, basically a speaker rewired into a big mic
Guitar. 2:49😭😭😭😭😭
Oh yessssssss
Right.
Isaiah Sharkey is a bad, bad man...
Boy, the look he gave the flautist at the 2:31 mark for not coming in smoothly was vicious. Like it was the one thing that fucked up this masterpiece!
I heard someone say Chris Dave's gets a great sound out of his deep sonor snare. He was right, it does sound great. Not crazy about this musical style, but I like the snare sound and "the look". 😂
that's all in your mind, nobody would ever give some in their improvising band that kind of vibe during a taped performance... might as well shoot oneself in the foot.
@@rillloudmother oh, it's deffinately possible it's just in my mind. There is much in this world I see that others dont. It's also possible others just don't see what I do. You would know better than I on the protocols in this style of improv. This style of music is no where on my list of interests. But with practice maybe they'll get better? ; )
@@patrickfarley8036 you probably look at a cubist picasso and think, 'my three year old niece could do that."
@@rillloudmother exactly!
He makes that face all the time. Also, nobody cares about how much you don't care about this style music. It isn't relevant.
Ah! Those kicks!!!! Like being being punched in the gut with a pillow fist
im 4000 likes at 01.44
Learnell Lewis on guitar ?
Loooool
Y is his fingers pointing
I feel like Chris is mad at the flutist
has this song got a name?
one of the greatest track by J Dilla, "Feat. Phat Kat"
th-cam.com/video/lRq8I6-3smA/w-d-xo.html
Wow man. You're a crazy person. Your approach to rhythm is nuts. Absolutely love it. I would love to work with you someday.
:')
Well, the drummer enjoyed himself.
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Major dragging and a bit rushed in areas.
Marcus Brown That’s the point.
Yeah but that’s on purpose..which makes him even more dangerous
WOOOOOSH.
Off beat then it’s dragging in areas of the video but i guess it was okay.
He grooves like hell but he also plays too much.
Janne Hako i used to think so until the sound grew on me ,
he’s unique for sure
Chris Dave reminds me of Keith Moon a lot of off beat fills kinda confusing and tasteless, but the groove is nice tho
Alfred Reid "tasteless"? Just not crazy loud maybe idk about tasteless
That’s like comparing Mike Trout to Rob Deer come on, Keith couldn’t find the one with a flashlight.
Este batería toca muuuuy bien, PEEEERO el resto de los músicos NO TIENEN LA CULPA. En MI HUMILDE OPINIÓN, es un despropósito musical en el que el ego de un tipo no escucha en absoluto al resto de músicos. No hay ni química ni musicalidad alguna en todo lo que él va interpretando respecto a la melodía que sí expresa algo. Humildemente: espantoso.
band is pretty good,, particularly the flute but the drummer is being rly annoying .
It's like he is in the pocket for a minute then falls out sorry I don't like it my opinion tho.
You said it right - it's "like" he's in the pocket and then falls out. He can play in the pocket but he's stretching as far as he can. I've heard someone who worked with him say that he tends to rush, and you can hear that he's playing ahead of the beat here, but I can dig it.
Yea I agree I don’t really like it either. I feel like a straight up pocket would’ve been better
HALIWA Saponi He gives us that, just not all the way through. It's an artsy thing.
It's worked for him I guess
The looks on their faces like oh shit he's at it again haha
So off time its kind of annoying
isnt that what jazz is all about? Doing your own thing but knowing when and how to come back together
Yeah but stay as close as you can it seems like he has head phones on and he's listening to a different song
You obviously have zero idea what metric modulation is, honestly you probably have no idea what subdivisions even are.
Nothing here was off time, if your musical/drumming knowledge isn’t up to speed that is your problem, not Chris Dave’s.
If I were you I’d delete this comment, it’s embarrassing on your part.
th-cam.com/video/5vf5iIdyTTo/w-d-xo.html
Lulzzzz you are audacious 🤣
Lol, that's the whole point of Dilla
I just can't dude he's like the little kid that thinks he can play whatever he wants while everyone else is unified just stop it's not innovative it's annoying!
phenocom So go woodshed, why waste your valuable time downing Chris? Shake any tree and 99 critics fall out, and one person doing something.