cEDH's Best Decks | Learning cEDH - Episode 7
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Today on the podcast we're taking a look at the tournament stats for large events this year. We go over the top performers, what we think they're doing well, and how we foresee them being positioned as time goes on. We also touch on a few key underperformers and the issues we think may be causing them to be so drastically different than the popular perceptions of them.
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What do you think of these stats? How well is your favorite deck performing? Take a look at the link in the description to get the full view and consider supporting on Patreon to get early access to content and support more of it!
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My favorite deck is Yuriko. But I know exactly why it doesn't perform. It doesn't have layers/axis to pivot on. No red for breach. No white for value engines. But it can run gnarly stax pieces like G.Cage and Chains of Mesto.
The shock to me was Malcom Grixis. I thought it went 1. Blue Farm 2. Najeela NBC 3. Rog/Si 4. Winota Snowball 5. Malcom/Vial. In my mind when I pull a list from the DDB and start combing through it. I try to pretend like 3 out of those 5 are in my pod. I wonder what chair I'm in. Will the Grixis players who went down to 4 wheel on turn 2. Do I have enough interaction for winota and najeela. Ect
I know it's a lot of work to edit, but some pop ups for the cards and decks you are talking about would be helpful for newer players in the cedh space. Yes we can go look them up, but sometimes just seeing a card helps to reinforce the points you make. Love the content though, I watch every video.
I totally agree, I had to stop watching because I just didn't know what was being mentioned.
I definitely enjoyed this. It's like ESPN for magic.
Glad you liked it! It was a lot of fun to record.
@Lemora's Cards Please continue doing this type of video...but with the video lol
@Kamikaze Chicken we definitely will! We've had some technical issues, which is why the facecam isn't here. Hopefully it's resolved by the next episode.
I agree
Would love a quarterly iteration of this podcast. You two have very good discussion points and contrast each other well. As an experienced player, I still got a lot from this episode, hearing some interesting perspectives. Keep it up!
We're definitely going to do it! Thank you for all the kind words. We'll try to keep it helpful and engaging!
Just listened to this on Spotify. Your Channel, Play to Win and Playing with Power have absolutely changed the fundamental way I look at Magic as a whole. Endlessly thankful
Wow that's a massive compliment. Thank you so much! Glad to be helpful.
2 drop creature that makes treasures. Well they just spoiled it: Lotho! Lol good prediction.
What are the decks on the list again?
Its a very long video and i got sidetracked more times than i would like. Its my third time here. It would be very helpful if you could at least mention the decks
Here's the link to the filter we used for the data we looked at: edhtop16.com/?tourney_filter__size__%24gte=64&tourney_filter__dateCreated__%24gte=1672549200&colorID=null
The top 10 are: Tymna/Kraum, Najeela, Bruse/Thrasios, Tivit, Rograkh/Silas, Kinnan, Malcolm/Tana, Sisay, Rocco, and Tevesh/Kraum.
Love the merch you all make. Just bought a Korvold shirt last night, would love to see a Protean Hulk design
Thank you! I might have to look into that. I just dropped a new Turbo design too last night I'm pretty excited about!
Winota needs more interaction. Maybe it can use the new white remand
I really like these in-depth long form interviews of cEDH decks. I like how you guys deep dive into all the things that tie the aspects of each deck together
Thank you! A new episode of this should be coming soon overviewing the last quarter.
Ive been meaning to sub for a while, but i listen to this in the background and forget all the time. Got it this time though!
Haha, happy to hear it!
Hey great podcast. I've been listening to cedh stuff casually (lol?) and slowly building some lists. I don't plan on playing anything big and I really appreciate your take on things. It shows a sensitivity to newer players without talking down to them (or jargoning them out) and it's also a pretty sober take on each deck's weaknesses and story. I've been building a winota and it's good to know ahead of time that it's just gonna get hated on. Had some recent success with tivit and it's good to hear how different variations can work in different metas. Keep up the good work, i'll be tuning in!
Glad you've been enjoying it! I always work to make accessible content and am definitely going to keep it up!
Going in with Winota knowing you're likely to eat hate is always helpful, and it's a deck in general I think is tough when your opponents respect it. Tivit is a great one to get going with.
Really insightful discussion!
I’d love a link to the deck lists referenced, anyone know where I could find them?
The site used is edhtop16.com/
If you click any of the commanders, all the top performing decks for them will pop up!
Just saw this channel for the first time and really enjoyed this video…but TH-cam playing ads every 5 mins sucks
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I just went through and cut the ads down by a bit over half, so hopefully, that's less disruptive.
you guys had some good takes but i think that your sample size of results from events in 2023 is way too small. PWP did an episode recently like this one but they were very hesitant to come to any conclusions due to lack of data and they were taking results from an entire year. Notable differences between what you mentioned vs their takes is that blue farm has been overall underperforming for it's representation and TnT has been over preforming. I know the point of this video is to look at the meta of 2023 but when you only can look at so few results it's almost guaranteed the the data is skewed in a misleading direction. overall great video though, i enjoy discussions like this.
I think the issue with looking at the last year or so of cEDH is that a lot of the popular decks right now have seen big shake-ups mostly since the second half of last year. Blue Farm Cavern/Lavinia tech, turbo Najeela, Rog/Si Bryant Cook variants are all things you didn't really see early last year.
We plan to do one of these every three months or so, so we'll look to see how these stats line up as the results increase and then we'll see how representative they are.
@@LemorasCards that is a really good point. the meta shaker cards would make a big difference in how they start to play out. it'll be really interesting to see over the next year of events what adaptations appear to continue breaking the mold. I'll look forward to your other videos on it then. also, i couldn't find a good way to say this so i apologize but hear me out..channel name idea.. "mystic Lemora". your channel name is great but it was 4am and it hit me so i had to share😂.
Awesome podcast. Blue is overrated imo, but mystic and rhystic are broken cards.
Thank ya! Yeah it's hard to beat card advantage that punishes playing the game that hard.
Loved this breakdown. Going to help us all evolve. Please keep this up 👍
Of course! Glad you enjoyed it.
Perfectly predicted Lotho lolol
Whats with the weird back ground the whole time
Had some technical issues preventing us from using facecam. All fixed in the episodes after this.
Where can I find the 150$ tivit list at?
I discovered you right now... I'll go back to Episode 1 first, because I am new to cEDH, but this seems like the quality I need.
Keep on. :-)
Glad to hear it!
You might find this video helpful as well: th-cam.com/video/DACIsEs39pE/w-d-xo.html
I need Winota (Stax) merch lol
I do have a playmat design you can get on my Kofi. It's in my linktree in the description.