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I think u don't give AJ enough credit, at the very least he's still moving forward, improving and fighting top opposition. Who knows, he might be champ again
First of all pause and most aesthetic physique are you kidding me? Have you ever seen him walk with those knees knockin? Look at his legs when he walks. I could name 10 guys off the top of my head with better bodies.
I think the issue is that many of that big four fighters seemingly refused to fight each other, meaning they never had to get better to face off like the old champs did
Division hasn't been exposed to anybody who's been paying attention. Wilder has always been unskilled and mostly unproven amongst the top level, as he avoided most top contenders of the era. Fury has always been very inconsistent and also didn't fight many good guys of this era. Joshua suffered an upset defeat and avenged it (as many great heavyweights such as Lennox Lewis have) and then lost to a generational P4P talent in Usyk. Joshua was looked at as the worst of the 3 for awhile because he lost so many times but the reason he lost was because unlike Fury and Wilder he was fighting top guy after top guy. Anybody who was paying attention and was unbiased knew this. These truths have only been exposed to more casual fans.
Glad someone is saying it. Joshua is the one who acc took the most risks. Wilder could've fought klitschko before both of them but him and his team turned it down cos he was a "baby champion" eventhough he was 30 fights into his career
@juniorbangura732 Yeh the other two been coasting. They just talk without backing their words. Only reason Fury is fighting Usyk is the Saudis are handing out ridiculous paydays
And joshua did what everyone expected fury to do. Beat without lots of difficulties Francis Ngannou. I wonder if this can be considered the "Tjlovesfights" curse
No one rates Wilder. I would mildly disagree with your AJ assessment, his CV is not thin. It's easily the best of the three, but it's clear he's got shortcomings. However he's back on the rise and I think could win a belt again. But totally agree with you verdict on Fury. For years I've been perplexed how people legitimately say things like he's one of the greatest of all time, I think mostly because he keeps saying it over and over and people hang off his every word. Francis did the world a favour taking him down a few notches. The HW division has been in big trouble for two decades now so people who honestly think any of the current generation could even get into the top ten in the 90s are deluded. I think there are some prospects. Dubois I've seen live and picked him years ago but he's not lived up to the early promise, however excellent performance the other day. Jai Opetaia will step up to HW and could be very effective. Like the new style! When I started I was off camera and people told me to change that, and I've never looked back. Plus you're harder to replace with AI if you're on camera! But maybe only for a few months more...
Hey doc, nice to see you grace this scene. Totally agree with you about AJ - he’s got a good CV apart from the Usyk losses. Also, I’m frustrated that OP did not raise this point; I wonder whether you could tell us a thing or two about Ayahuasca’s effects on performance and how that could possibly explain Wilder’s poor display against Parker. Surely heavy use of these kinds of psychedelic drugs hugely impact many factors that determine boxing ability. TIA for your insights
Im not talking about just age but also 'shelf-life'. Fury made a comeback from a harsh lifestyle and props to him, but hes no young lion. Wilder seems shot now, i doubt he can comeback. AJ's heart was tested and he has no killer instinct and wont brave a storm - he wont eat a shot to give a shot - hes scared. Thats how Usyk( a Cruiserweight) beat him TWICE. A smaller dude with less power. IMO, AJ, Wilder, and Fury are done. they all should have fought each other 5 years ago but were too chicken...or you could say 'too business prudent'. @@kungfubrando
The Problem is that they had to exposed after 5 years in the first place. The only reason why most fans are very conflicted on Heavyweights fighting skills is because they take way too long to fight each other.
Ok fellas, sound is a little off sync of the video but I can’t change the raw file and don’t have time to sync every individual video. Thanks for the feedback and this should remind you I’m not a studio. I’m just some fucking idiot in my room
I agree with your takes on Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but disagree on Anthony Joshua. Joshua didn’t get exposed, he was the only one (along with Usyk) who was actually willing to take risks and fight hard for the belts.
@@johnmarkson1990can’t blame him. Boxings stupid ass 4 belt system results in videos like this. If they HAD to fight each other this wouldn’t be a problem
@@mr.sharma125 I half agree. Other divisions have some exciting fights but titles just don’t matter. I don’t even bother following it but if I hear about a good fight I’ll watch. Like AJ fighting Ngannou that shit might actually be interesting
@@gardensaladdude90 at least the fighters get paid for risking their lives (its not even risk its garanteed permanent brain damage). ufc is bad match making + they dont get paid.
This whole vid sucks and hope he sees this. AJs resume looks better than Furys, and how did it get exposed? Its more like Francis is a talented boxer ffs.
Now the ship have turn around would you say the same thing for ufc?. I am dissapointed that you afraid of making the video of francis vs joshua after downplay it so bad in this video. Give the credit to boxing when you are wrong😢
A young, heavyweight, with potential is Daniel Dubois. Yes, he has losses, but he's still young about 10 years younger than the stars of the division. He has a lot of power and good fundamentals
Daniel needs to work on his heart. He showed a lot against Miller but loses before that due to him just quitting. He also won’t get many big fights if he doesn’t learn how to sell them
Also, I think Wilders KO power may also be overrated. Consider that almost all of Wilders KOs were against guys who had already been KO'd multiple times meaning they had weakened punch resistance before even fighting Wilder
so true. ever since I saw his legs go full jello-mode and the fact that he is incapable of moving backwards i was like, "they really want me to say this man is a good boxer?" to be fair he's a great power puncher but boxing is more than just power punching. so he can't set up his power punches against good opponents and when that happens his power looks like nothing
Why is everybody obsessed with raw power most of top contenders in heavyweights can put each to sleep depending on matchups, styles make fights. Also setting your punches correctly is 90% kos. look at gervonta davis, most of his opponents talk more about how he sets his punches his raw punching power.
@jabr0nicus i dont think ive ever seen anyone praise wilders boxing prowess. His speed and accuracy is pretty good for heavyweight. His issue is his gas tank and LACK of skill. His power is just so good that he made it as far as he has with it alone.
I don't get why people want a non-competitive heavyweight division. It's so childish. People want their favorites to fight but then clown fighters for losing and then complain thag the best aren't fighting the best.
Styles make fights. You can’t do triangle theory because different styles match up well against others. If Fury isn’t allowed to lean on his opponent, you’ll see how average he is. Wallin exposed that and AJ brutalized Wallin. Yet Fury would have never in a million years lost to Ruiz. You can’t just go with the “favorite”. Boxing has gotten more interesting and the Heavyweight division has Saudi involved paying big money.
Let's be honest. Ruiz caught JA with a extremely lucky punch. He won far and square but it's not like he simply out boxed him. Even though Wilder is a bum he'd probably beat Ruiz.
@@BlackTanjiro1 He's got incredibly fast recovery, a decent chin, faster hands, and enough power to get by, Now i'm not saying Ruiz takes the fight 10/10, but he's definitely got the potential to beat Wilder and I'd favour his chances more often than not tbh
Heavyweights in boxing and MMA are always less skilled than lighter weight classes because they don't need to rely on skill as much to beat their opponents, since they have size and power to do so.
I think there's a bit of hyperbole in this. I don't think Tyson Fury was " exposed" by Ngannou. when it comes down to it was just one fight which it was very likely he just took it not very seriously. Also there are great fighters who get dropped often by lesser opposition . Just look at Felix Trinidad and Miguel cotto for examples. Likewise Joshua was not "exposed" by Usyk. Usyk was just more technically proficient and came with a great game plan. It's like saying Ali was "exposed" by Ken Norton in their first fight. The heavyweight division " never being worse" is pretty insane when looking at the late 2000s early 2010s. There just weren't nearly as many Interesting fighters then and the two best fighters ( the Klitschkos) we knew would never fight each other. The idea that it's the most protected division is pretty laughable. Fury has fought wilder, klitschko and will fight Usyk. Joshua has fought Usyk,povetkin,parker, ruiz. And wilder ( the most protected) has fought Ortiz( when he was feared) , Fury, and Parker. Overall , I really like your videos. But I feel like this one is a bit too reactionary based just on the recent fights which are most likely at the tail end of these fighters careers. I would also mention that even in the great times of heavyweight boxing (1970's and 1990's) there were plenty of magazines and publications saying the division was garbage.
I would agree that AJ didn't get exposed, he actually even improved for Usyk-2 and still lost. That's just a genuine skill/style-matchup issue. But it's arguable Fury got exposed by Ngannou, who many people felt earned a win or at least a draw, hence all the "robbery" talk. Ngannou had never boxed under the lights before, and Fury knew Ngannou's reputation, didn't prepare properly, and debatably got cooked worse than the first time he fought wilder. That's a lot worse than being beaten in 2 competitive fights by the current champ and former undisputed cruiserweight champ in Usyk. If conor mcgregor had sparked floyd mayweather or if it had been very close, we would probably have said he "exposed" floyd. So if Ngannou arguably beats Fury, it's not entirely unreasonable for people to say Fury got "exposed" even if it was just a little bit
Don't think Ali and Norton are a fair comparison since even their first fight was very close and competitive. The current crop of Heavyweights is definitely lacking in many ways.
Solid analysis. However I do find the facecam format to be less engaging as there is less dynamism, and much less to look at. I preferred the old style of video but a blend of the two may a good compromise between viewer retention and a greater personal presence. You could have the facecam take up less of the screen and isolate it to a corner or have your facecam be the background and add graphics on/ around it. Either way, very well written video and spot on diagnosis.
Heavyweight boxers have held onto their titles into their late 30s for a long time. Larry Holmes was 36 when Michael Spinks took him down, Muhammad Ali was 36 when he got beaten by Leon Spinks and Larry Holmes. Lennox Lewis retired at 37 with most of his belts, and the Klitschko brothers were 41 and 39 respectively when they were done. Sonny Liston allegedly was beaten by Muhammad Ali at age 34, but there's evidence to suggest that his age was misreported. So the notion that all the top boxers being in their mid-to-late 30's is not, in and of itself, evidence that the division is lacking in talent, especially because of how *huge* heavyweight boxers have become. George Foreman was supposed to be a giant at 6'4", now he would the little guy, standing a tiny bit higher than Usyk. If you can explain to me how a guy who's 6'3" tall can fight at cruiserweight, while Mike Tyson at 5'10" was fighting at heavyweight, then we can have a discussion about who is and isn't skilled. You really want to fix the heavyweight division? Make the fighers weigh in 10 minutes before the bell.
Hey man there’s no weight limit on heavyweight boxing, so they don’t waste energy worrying about what they weigh they just get in fighting shape and show up so it wouldn’t change for them. But I think you make an excellent point for all other divisions in boxing and mma it would solve the weight cutting issues
@@austinclark3350 Yes, my remark about making weight 10 minutes before the fight, I'm talking about Usyk being 6'3" and somehow being able to fight at cruiserweight. We have to adjust for the fact that diuretics are much more effective now than they were 50 years ago.
Jared Anderson, David Adeleye, Fabio Wardley, Frank Sanchez, Filip Hrgovic and Daniel Dubois are six young heavyweights to look forward to I can name off the top of my head.
AJ and Wilder weren't "exposed" lmao, AJ fought a better fighter and lost and Wilder has always been known as a guy that only has a good right hand. I wouldn't go so far as to say Tyson was "exposed" from his fight with Ngannou, he just didn't take it seriously at all and suffered the consequences; I wouldn't say he's the GOAT but he's undoubtedly very skilled. This video, and your "boxing is dead" video have been pretty dissapointing if I'm being honest
Jared Anderson and Dubois are some young guys im excited for, another thing I wished you mentioned is the lack of fights among the top heavyweights. We never got Fury v Joshua, Joshua v Wilder and Fury v Usyk took too long to happen, and now it’s too late for all those fights.
@@SworBeyE16 it’s not that the Saudis couldn’t make them happen but that the fan interest is gone since Fury was exposed by Francis and Wilder lost to Joseph Parker (someone AJ already beat). These fights should have been made 5 years ago when these guys were closer to their prime and the fan interest was at its highest.
@@Dom-tb2qz Is this alleged loss of fan interest reflected in actual viewership or engagement statistics? Or are you purely using conjecture to try and validate your bias?
The sound is completely off, I'm not an editor but aren't you supposed to do the clap specifically for this? It just feels quite jarring when it is off like this
I think the heavy weight division is fairly strong but I do think Fury and Wilder are over hyped. Both have weak resumes, especially wilder. I was shocked that most ppl were shocked that Parker beat Wilder. The only shock for me was Wilder went the distance. I bet on Parker stopping him.
@@lampad4549 His two best wins were against a past prime Wladimir Klitschko, in a fight which is considered one of the worst title fights in HW boxing history because it was so boring and forgettable. And Deontay Wilder who is notoriously one-note, Fury REALLY struggled in their third fight getting dropped multiple times and looking really sloppy. His other 'good' win was Otto Wallin, who gave Fury all sorts of problems and Fury was saved by the bell in that fight. Had that fight gone on, the doctor would have stopped the fight due to that nasty cut Fury sustained. Whilst Fury struggled against Wallin, AJ completely blew him out of the water. Fury's resume is weak, especially for someone considered by some to be an ATG boxer.
@@madgavin7568 Also, Fury used a forearm to cheat his way to victory over Cunningham after Cunningham knocked him down. Plus, John McDermott beat Tyson Fury.
I hate all this slander towards boxing because of what happened with Francis. The real bull shit imo, is that he wanted to be a boxer and has always dreamed of being a great boxer. So all the MMA guys claiming this as a victory for MMA are just reaching for straws. Yes, Tyson should've performed better but lets not ignore that Francis is physical specimen and AGAIN... HE WANTED TO BOX. That matters
AJ, bless him. Watched AJ's early fights, excited by the power. He fought Dillian White ages ago and was rocked early / mid fight. Then you notice he doesn't move his head. And 10+ years later he still doesn't. Fury could be excellent if he's not mad. But he is as mad as a broom. How has he trained? Has he trained? Who knows. Wilder is bobbins with a big right. Usyk is very good indeed. A fight with Fury could be very high quality if - IF - sane Fury turns up.
Find your take on AJ a bit harsh considering out of the 3 he has the deepest resume in the least fights. He collected the belts thru multiple fights and continued to fight the best guys available to him. Acting as if he got "exposed" cos he lost to usyk is crazy and discredits how good usyk really is. The main issue is that these guys didn't make the fights when they were supposed to which going thru the timeline is mainly the fault of wilder. He became champ before both of the other 2 and couldve unified with klitschko but his team deemed him not ready with 30 fights on his record. Bare in mind AJ claimed his first title in his 16th fight and fought Klitschko 3 fights later to claim another belt. AJ made offers to both guys and both guys turned them down.
AJ is the most skilled, but a bit chinny. Fury is mentally strongest, big and moderately skilled. Wilder has so much power that it carried his sub par skills.
I really don't think this generation of HW is so bad, the only big issue is that we didn't see the big matches among them when the fighters were in their prime and surely that was and still is a great hole in all their resumé.
TJ i love your videos, but respectfully, I think many of your points are simply wrong. - with the age argument you made comparing fury and ngannou, you should also take into consideration that fury has been in more wars. ngannou started late and hasn't taken as much damage. also, like he said, you don't fight wilder 3 times and come out unchanged. i do agree that wilder has been extremely protected but at the end of the day, he was an Olympian and you don't win a bronze medal without having SOME skill. - for joshuas fight with usyk, he wasn't exposed, he simply fought a better fighter. with that argument applied elsewhere, was spence exposed against crawford? I don't think so, I think he just fought a better man. sorry TJ but this analysis was not it
I think you’re being too extreme about Joshua, his best win was Ruiz 2 and those losses forced him to work on his skill level. His last 2-3 fights have been extremely underrated and i think his best boxing is still ahead of him.
Nothig got exposed u just gay and dont know knothing about box overall... your Lennox Lewis who accroding to u was the "baddest" got dropped in his prime by Oliver McCall. Ali was 22 when he fought 34/35 yearls old Sonny Liston (Liston who had defeats against journeymen), then should have lost his trilogy to the mighty "Ken Norton" and got kicked by Leon Spinks in his 8th professional fight, one of the worst HWs in history with 17 losses. George Foreman spent his career fighting journeymen even in the 1980s then got defeated in his prime by the all time great "Jimmy Young" facing Ali just one time in his entire career. I knew your youtube channel never was to be trusted as old heads like you like to point out every single thing nowadays but never about the past. Aj just destroyed Ngannou whappens that Fury didnt prepare like he should now you dont even wanna make a video about that 😂😂
Bro I just love the growth of this channel, found it when it was one of those rough cuts gems and now it’s looking like it could be even more special, absolutely amazing!
This guy seems to be a casual boxing fan.. there are plenty of young heavyweights coming up they’re just not as hyped..YET, Jared Anderson and co also the heavyweights have always been less skilled than the smaller guys and cruiserweights have often done well among heavies.. Holyfield, Haye, Qawi.. and lastly if Joshua had a thin resume at heavyweights then who has a good resume? AJ has been fighting top ten guys and champions since his 15th fight..
heavyweight boxing is not exposed. we are living in a golden age of heavyweights!! fury, wilder, usyk are just coming to the end but there will be others coming up! in ten years we will look back at how good this era of heavyweight boxing is. people in the 90's werent grateful either at the time for what they had, look what 20 years did.
All the heavyweight greats of the 90's fought eachother. Lewis and Holyfield, Holyfield and Tyson, Tyson and Lewis. We cant and probably will never get to say that about this current era. Wilder and A.J, A.J and Fury, Usyk and Wilder and so on.
Modern heavyweights like joshua and wilder only rely on their straight right hand. Past heavyweights had perfected their jab, had footwork from two weight classes down, and were not ducking each other. It's incomparable for any pugilist, this is just wishful thinking from your end.
I really want to thank you for taking the time to put together a well and thoughtful video. I truly believe in a lot of what it is that you were saying it is quite a shame to see the state of heavyweight boxing versus Cruiserweight. What was such huge spectacle to Feast Your Eyes Upon with such talents as the legendary Hall of Famers never put on a pair of boots and gloves. We don't need to go into detail but for case and point the Muhammad Ali's, the Joe frazier's, the Evander Holyfield etc,etc. When we mention these guys we're talking about 100% pure gladiators that was damn near willing to die in the ring for their pride and approve who was the better man it's almost like boxing as a whole became glamorized because now it's almost like WWE you never know what storyline what twist what turns. And it's kind of sad because we don't see a lot of promising heavyweights to step up through the ranks and reign supreme. So once again I thank you for a well thought-out video please keep up the good work I hope to see more great works from you in the future God bless you and have a great day🎉
AJ vs Klitchko was the day I fall in love with boxing. I am in heavyweight category myself and I love to watch only those guys, but… there is really lack of quality in every aspect. Everything just feels artificial.
some bad takes here, there are PLENTY of heavyweight prospects to be excited about. Dubois, Anderson, Jalalov, Wardley, Sanchez, Hrgovic, the re-emergence of Parker, and even Opetaia when he moves up.
Yeah this is one of his worst videos clearly influenced by ignorance and recency bias. We’re in a golden era of heavyweights. The only thing I would say is that the margins are ALOT closer than we’d like to believe and the gap between the top guys and the rest are not all that large.
New format is great, I think we listen to what you're saying more than we see the video, anyhow :D Heavyweight boxing has always leaned older and not as technical; so there are often less heavyweight "boxers" and more heavyweight "punchers." The whole buzz about Fury was him being a heavyweight that boxed like a super middleweight. So taking his time with Wilder makes sense if you're worried about getting clobbered once by Wilder. With Ngannou, I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that Fury's team didn't know what to train for and Ngannou's MMA skills would be such a benefit. Ngannou getting out of Fury's clinches with sheer strength was probably unexpected by everyone except Ngannou's team. Same with Joshua v Ruiz; Joshua wasn't prepared for a shorter dude whose hands were that fast. And, Joshua probably didn't think Ruiz had it in him on such short notice. Great video as always! In terms of young heavyweights, I'm stoked for Richard Torrez Jr. to finally face some tough opposition and same with Jared Anderson
I don't know why Fury's team would have been surprised out Ngannou being able to get out of clinches. In boxing you're not supposed to clinch but in MMA it's allowed so Ngannou has been training to handle clinches his whole career. Obviously Ngannou's enormous strength helps too.
@@BiggieTrismegistus - Thats a good point. I guess more so than clinching, Fury tends to... drape himself over his opponents? And Ngannou was able to just push Fury off a lot of the time cause of how strong he is
So couple issues with this video that just bothered me -the wilder commentary was horrid yes he got outboxed but the dudes skill isnt his strong suit and for what im assuming was malik scotts decision he tried boxing on the backfoot waited to be active until the last round and didnt let his right hand (his money maker go) against parker also come tf on wilder would have destroyed parker if he was the same fighter that faught breazele or fury in the first fight -the wladmir fight was overlooked so much and it angered me so much AJ was young and klitch is a fucking monster even in his age also are we going to wash over the mental games that gave Fury that win seeing as wlad legit threw nothing and couldnt start anything -usyk is quite litterly one of the most skilled heavyweights alive and even besides his height and size he is still one of the most skilled tacticians
How exactly was AJ exposed by Usyk? He lost a highly competitive fight to someone with an all time great skill level. Lately with your videos, you’ve had this MMA is better than boxing agenda. Kinda cringe
Joshua was never really "exposed" except to incredibly casual audiences. The only reason he had more losses then the others is because he actually generally fought well tuned talent in the division unlike the incredibly inconsistent Fury and especially unlike Wilder. He's actually a pretty good inside fighter, maybe a little basic and a little predictable but a pretty alright fighter nonetheless. If all the "top 3" fought each other a couple years ago, I think Joshua would have easily defeated both of them.
“Exposed”. Everyone loses and it’s not like they were at their primes. These guys have been doing it for the longest and now that they are seeing a decline. They are exposed?
I dunno hes got a slouchy loose body but when he stiffens up and stands tall he was probably 6'8 10 years ago. Just his knees buckling inwards loses half an inch where most people legs dont do that
The whole era. People don’t fight each other anymore. We don’t care about losses. And being undefeated. If you are a killer you’ll have that 0 at the end of it all. Everyone dodges everyone.
The only way Ngannou can win a fight, is to knockout his opponent. Because they will never give him the decision against a big name like Fury or Joshua…
I don’t necessarily agree with you but respect your decision. I think you might be overrating Ngannou’s boxing ability and underestimating AJ’s. Not only that AJ easily has the best boxing resume. But we will see.
Don’t really make sense to say that Wilder got exposed for his lack of boxing skills by Fury and now Parker. Wilder has been long exposed by Luis Ortiz and even guys like Gerald Washington and Artur Szpilka were outboxing him. The difference is none of those guys were elite so Wilders power was able to save him in those fights
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I think u don't give AJ enough credit, at the very least he's still moving forward, improving and fighting top opposition.
Who knows, he might be champ again
Why athletes lie about height?
First of all pause and most aesthetic physique are you kidding me? Have you ever seen him walk with those knees knockin? Look at his legs when he walks. I could name 10 guys off the top of my head with better bodies.
Your very handsome young man.
Probably your worst video ngl
I think the issue is that many of that big four fighters seemingly refused to fight each other, meaning they never had to get better to face off like the old champs did
Wilder and fury used each other to duck the other heavyweights
@@edi.duzit23at the time they were the biggest heavyweights in the world not exactly ducking
Fury and wilder did and so did usyk and aj.
@@lampad4549no fury was on a 3 year lay off and wilder had a mandatory he was ducking for 2 years
@lampad4549 Nah at the time the fight to make was aj vs wilder but wilder kept turning it down and cherrypicked fury off a 3 year lay off
Division hasn't been exposed to anybody who's been paying attention.
Wilder has always been unskilled and mostly unproven amongst the top level, as he avoided most top contenders of the era.
Fury has always been very inconsistent and also didn't fight many good guys of this era.
Joshua suffered an upset defeat and avenged it (as many great heavyweights such as Lennox Lewis have) and then lost to a generational P4P talent in Usyk. Joshua was looked at as the worst of the 3 for awhile because he lost so many times but the reason he lost was because unlike Fury and Wilder he was fighting top guy after top guy. Anybody who was paying attention and was unbiased knew this.
These truths have only been exposed to more casual fans.
Glad someone is saying it. Joshua is the one who acc took the most risks. Wilder could've fought klitschko before both of them but him and his team turned it down cos he was a "baby champion" eventhough he was 30 fights into his career
@@asherandall7441I think likewise with usyk too both him and Aj take all the risks
Facts
@juniorbangura732 Yeh the other two been coasting. They just talk without backing their words. Only reason Fury is fighting Usyk is the Saudis are handing out ridiculous paydays
100% agree with everything
And joshua did what everyone expected fury to do. Beat without lots of difficulties Francis Ngannou. I wonder if this can be considered the "Tjlovesfights" curse
No one rates Wilder. I would mildly disagree with your AJ assessment, his CV is not thin. It's easily the best of the three, but it's clear he's got shortcomings. However he's back on the rise and I think could win a belt again. But totally agree with you verdict on Fury. For years I've been perplexed how people legitimately say things like he's one of the greatest of all time, I think mostly because he keeps saying it over and over and people hang off his every word. Francis did the world a favour taking him down a few notches. The HW division has been in big trouble for two decades now so people who honestly think any of the current generation could even get into the top ten in the 90s are deluded. I think there are some prospects. Dubois I've seen live and picked him years ago but he's not lived up to the early promise, however excellent performance the other day. Jai Opetaia will step up to HW and could be very effective. Like the new style! When I started I was off camera and people told me to change that, and I've never looked back. Plus you're harder to replace with AI if you're on camera! But maybe only for a few months more...
MedlifeBoxing coming soon?
Hey doc, nice to see you grace this scene. Totally agree with you about AJ - he’s got a good CV apart from the Usyk losses.
Also, I’m frustrated that OP did not raise this point; I wonder whether you could tell us a thing or two about Ayahuasca’s effects on performance and how that could possibly explain Wilder’s poor display against Parker. Surely heavy use of these kinds of psychedelic drugs hugely impact many factors that determine boxing ability.
TIA for your insights
Def was not expecting a thoughtful breakdown from MedLifeCrisis when I was scrolling down
Make a boxing channel I'd sub 👍
AJ still has the best resume of the 3 and could be making a comeback
Problem is the 3 are pas their prime and missed their shit at greatness
@@energyfitness5116aj isn't he's still young
Im not talking about just age but also 'shelf-life'. Fury made a comeback from a harsh lifestyle and props to him, but hes no young lion. Wilder seems shot now, i doubt he can comeback. AJ's heart was tested and he has no killer instinct and wont brave a storm - he wont eat a shot to give a shot - hes scared. Thats how Usyk( a Cruiserweight) beat him TWICE. A smaller dude with less power. IMO, AJ, Wilder, and Fury are done. they all should have fought each other 5 years ago but were too chicken...or you could say 'too business prudent'. @@kungfubrando
Best of the trash. Isn’t really much.
@@kungfubrando AJ lost his heart. Plus the dudes coming up will force him to fight inside which he avoids like Mayweather.
I think AJ just saved heavyweight boxing after that KO of Ngannou. Well he restored balance
Joshua just knock Francis out
TJ stop hiding under your bed and come make a video about Joshua's easy victory against Ngannou.
Same thing I was thinking 😂
Came to this trash channel to check if he made a video on it, looks like he’s ducking that video
Fr I been waiting for an upload about it. He made one real quick after Tyson fury vs Francis negagnu but after Anthony Joshua he is in Hawaii.
I also still waiting. Its unfair not give credit to boxing after downplay it in this video😢
Well this certainly didn't age well.
The Problem is that they had to exposed after 5 years in the first place. The only reason why most fans are very conflicted on Heavyweights fighting skills is because they take way too long to fight each other.
Ok fellas, sound is a little off sync of the video but I can’t change the raw file and don’t have time to sync every individual video. Thanks for the feedback and this should remind you I’m not a studio. I’m just some fucking idiot in my room
didn’t ask
be a studio ffs. (jk keep up the good shit)
I agree with your takes on Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, but disagree on Anthony Joshua. Joshua didn’t get exposed, he was the only one (along with Usyk) who was actually willing to take risks and fight hard for the belts.
Ngannou winning a poll on a UFC focused channel? No way
this channel lost a lot of respect with this video cant lie.
@@johnmarkson1990can’t blame him. Boxings stupid ass 4 belt system results in videos like this. If they HAD to fight each other this wouldn’t be a problem
Stop glazing boxing 🤷🏽 a dead sport, the only reason it’s relavent these days is cus of its historic past
@@mr.sharma125 I half agree. Other divisions have some exciting fights but titles just don’t matter. I don’t even bother following it but if I hear about a good fight I’ll watch. Like AJ fighting Ngannou that shit might actually be interesting
@@gardensaladdude90 at least the fighters get paid for risking their lives (its not even risk its garanteed permanent brain damage). ufc is bad match making + they dont get paid.
Calling AJ’s resume thin is ridiculous
Idk what this guy is talking about aj has the most names but ngl a lot of them were on the older side
This whole vid sucks and hope he sees this. AJs resume looks better than Furys, and how did it get exposed? Its more like Francis is a talented boxer ffs.
@@7Criska it’s simply cuz this is an mma biased channel owned by an mma biased fanboy
@ArturMcCulloch-Duran UFC not mma there’s a difference
@ArturMcCulloch-Duran mma if every aspect of martial arts of course it’s better bro
Anthony Joshua will age this video like milk
You said it
The prophecy has been fulfilled.
And he did it
Everything that was said in this video still stands after Ngannou was knocked out.
Now the ship have turn around would you say the same thing for ufc?.
I am dissapointed that you afraid of making the video of francis vs joshua after downplay it so bad in this video. Give the credit to boxing when you are wrong😢
It only took a month for this to age poorly, impressive.
There are many such videos out there now. Joshua made a lot of people look very stupid.
Fury got exposed by Usyk and Wilder got exposed by Zhang. Who aged poorly now, bum-squad?
i mean its true tho. old heavy weight would destroy todays heavy weight
Joshua aged like milk. Completely broken apart by Dubois.
Fury didn't really get exposed tho it was a cloae fight?@@soundwavesuperior28
A young, heavyweight, with potential is Daniel Dubois. Yes, he has losses, but he's still young about 10 years younger than the stars of the division. He has a lot of power and good fundamentals
Losses to me just mean that they actually took risky fights. Loved his win against Miller.
Daniel needs to work on his heart. He showed a lot against Miller but loses before that due to him just quitting. He also won’t get many big fights if he doesn’t learn how to sell them
Another potential is Jared Anderson , although he's no way near been tested as DDD
Also, I think Wilders KO power may also be overrated. Consider that almost all of Wilders KOs were against guys who had already been KO'd multiple times meaning they had weakened punch resistance before even fighting Wilder
Nah
so true. ever since I saw his legs go full jello-mode and the fact that he is incapable of moving backwards i was like, "they really want me to say this man is a good boxer?" to be fair he's a great power puncher but boxing is more than just power punching. so he can't set up his power punches against good opponents and when that happens his power looks like nothing
Why is everybody obsessed with raw power most of top contenders in heavyweights can put each to sleep depending on matchups, styles make fights.
Also setting your punches correctly is 90% kos. look at gervonta davis, most of his opponents talk more about how he sets his punches his raw punching power.
@jabr0nicus i dont think ive ever seen anyone praise wilders boxing prowess. His speed and accuracy is pretty good for heavyweight. His issue is his gas tank and LACK of skill. His power is just so good that he made it as far as he has with it alone.
@@agegarret THIS
Never been a worst heavyweight era? Really? I think most people would say the era dominated by the Klitschkos after Lennox retired was way worse.
I don't get why people want a non-competitive heavyweight division. It's so childish. People want their favorites to fight but then clown fighters for losing and then complain thag the best aren't fighting the best.
Nope this era is absolutely trash!
Styles make fights. You can’t do triangle theory because different styles match up well against others. If Fury isn’t allowed to lean on his opponent, you’ll see how average he is. Wallin exposed that and AJ brutalized Wallin. Yet Fury would have never in a million years lost to Ruiz. You can’t just go with the “favorite”. Boxing has gotten more interesting and the Heavyweight division has Saudi involved paying big money.
Ruiz definitely could've beaten Wilder, though
@@thememeconnoisseur4088 I agree
@@thememeconnoisseur4088 Lies. I don’t subscribe to that idea.
Let's be honest. Ruiz caught JA with a extremely lucky punch. He won far and square but it's not like he simply out boxed him. Even though Wilder is a bum he'd probably beat Ruiz.
@@BlackTanjiro1 He's got incredibly fast recovery, a decent chin, faster hands, and enough power to get by, Now i'm not saying Ruiz takes the fight 10/10, but he's definitely got the potential to beat Wilder and I'd favour his chances more often than not tbh
Heavyweights in boxing and MMA are always less skilled than lighter weight classes because they don't need to rely on skill as much to beat their opponents, since they have size and power to do so.
And the talent pool is lower.
I think there's a bit of hyperbole in this. I don't think Tyson Fury was " exposed" by Ngannou. when it comes down to it was just one fight which it was very likely he just took it not very seriously. Also there are great fighters who get dropped often by lesser opposition . Just look at Felix Trinidad and Miguel cotto for examples.
Likewise Joshua was not "exposed" by Usyk. Usyk was just more technically proficient and came with a great game plan. It's like saying Ali was "exposed" by Ken Norton in their first fight.
The heavyweight division " never being worse" is pretty insane when looking at the late 2000s early 2010s. There just weren't nearly as many Interesting fighters then and the two best fighters ( the Klitschkos) we knew would never fight each other.
The idea that it's the most protected division is pretty laughable. Fury has fought wilder, klitschko and will fight Usyk. Joshua has fought Usyk,povetkin,parker, ruiz. And wilder ( the most protected) has fought Ortiz( when he was feared) , Fury, and Parker.
Overall , I really like your videos. But I feel like this one is a bit too reactionary based just on the recent fights which are most likely at the tail end of these fighters careers. I would also mention that even in the great times of heavyweight boxing (1970's and 1990's) there were plenty of magazines and publications saying the division was garbage.
Excellent, you said everything I was going to say lol
I would have to strongly agree with all your points
I would agree that AJ didn't get exposed, he actually even improved for Usyk-2 and still lost. That's just a genuine skill/style-matchup issue. But it's arguable Fury got exposed by Ngannou, who many people felt earned a win or at least a draw, hence all the "robbery" talk. Ngannou had never boxed under the lights before, and Fury knew Ngannou's reputation, didn't prepare properly, and debatably got cooked worse than the first time he fought wilder. That's a lot worse than being beaten in 2 competitive fights by the current champ and former undisputed cruiserweight champ in Usyk.
If conor mcgregor had sparked floyd mayweather or if it had been very close, we would probably have said he "exposed" floyd. So if Ngannou arguably beats Fury, it's not entirely unreasonable for people to say Fury got "exposed" even if it was just a little bit
This. We're all susceptible to recency bias, whether we realize it or not.
Don't think Ali and Norton are a fair comparison since even their first fight was very close and competitive. The current crop of Heavyweights is definitely lacking in many ways.
You been hiding for 2 weeks 😂😂😂😂
A TH-camr doesn't post for 2 weeks and he's hiding
The video aged like wine 🤡 Wilder got exposed by Zhang and Fury got exposed by Usyk
TJ: there’s no future heavyweight boxing star
Chase Demoor: *allow me to introduce myself*
Lol
This video aged like milk
this video aged like wine
Did it? Okay AJ beat Ngannou, but the point as a whole still stands. This era is just worse than those before, and boxing is in shambles.
@@notaspeck6104 Sure it's better than the 90s, but definitely better than the 2000s and 2010s
This milked like age 🧓🥛
Solid analysis. However I do find the facecam format to be less engaging as there is less dynamism, and much less to look at. I preferred the old style of video but a blend of the two may a good compromise between viewer retention and a greater personal presence. You could have the facecam take up less of the screen and isolate it to a corner or have your facecam be the background and add graphics on/ around it. Either way, very well written video and spot on diagnosis.
Heavyweight boxers have held onto their titles into their late 30s for a long time. Larry Holmes was 36 when Michael Spinks took him down, Muhammad Ali was 36 when he got beaten by Leon Spinks and Larry Holmes. Lennox Lewis retired at 37 with most of his belts, and the Klitschko brothers were 41 and 39 respectively when they were done. Sonny Liston allegedly was beaten by Muhammad Ali at age 34, but there's evidence to suggest that his age was misreported.
So the notion that all the top boxers being in their mid-to-late 30's is not, in and of itself, evidence that the division is lacking in talent, especially because of how *huge* heavyweight boxers have become. George Foreman was supposed to be a giant at 6'4", now he would the little guy, standing a tiny bit higher than Usyk.
If you can explain to me how a guy who's 6'3" tall can fight at cruiserweight, while Mike Tyson at 5'10" was fighting at heavyweight, then we can have a discussion about who is and isn't skilled. You really want to fix the heavyweight division? Make the fighers weigh in 10 minutes before the bell.
Hey man there’s no weight limit on heavyweight boxing, so they don’t waste energy worrying about what they weigh they just get in fighting shape and show up so it wouldn’t change for them. But I think you make an excellent point for all other divisions in boxing and mma it would solve the weight cutting issues
@@austinclark3350 Yes, my remark about making weight 10 minutes before the fight, I'm talking about Usyk being 6'3" and somehow being able to fight at cruiserweight. We have to adjust for the fact that diuretics are much more effective now than they were 50 years ago.
Some were old but his point was the lack of good competitors who are younger
@@crabb9966 Jared Anderson is #7 on The Ring's Heavyweight rankings. He's 24. Josephy Parker is 32, he's #4. Agit Kabayel is #10, he's 31.
@@AaronMichaelLong Filip Hrgovic is also 31 and Jermaine Franklin is 30.
The new format is good. Respect for putting yourself out there 👊
Not fair to make a video like this then not make a follow up when AJ smashed Ngannou, unsub😐
Jared Anderson, David Adeleye, Fabio Wardley, Frank Sanchez, Filip Hrgovic and Daniel Dubois are six young heavyweights to look forward to I can name off the top of my head.
AJ and Wilder weren't "exposed" lmao, AJ fought a better fighter and lost and Wilder has always been known as a guy that only has a good right hand. I wouldn't go so far as to say Tyson was "exposed" from his fight with Ngannou, he just didn't take it seriously at all and suffered the consequences; I wouldn't say he's the GOAT but he's undoubtedly very skilled. This video, and your "boxing is dead" video have been pretty dissapointing if I'm being honest
Completely agree, hate casual clickbait videos like this.
This video aged really well
Fury was exposed as a mediocre fighter at best, if not for his size. If Fury were a middleweight, he wouldn't be in the top 100.
Jared Anderson and Dubois are some young guys im excited for, another thing I wished you mentioned is the lack of fights among the top heavyweights. We never got Fury v Joshua, Joshua v Wilder and Fury v Usyk took too long to happen, and now it’s too late for all those fights.
Is it too late for them? What's to say the Saudis wont make them?
@@SworBeyE16 it’s not that the Saudis couldn’t make them happen but that the fan interest is gone since Fury was exposed by Francis and Wilder lost to Joseph Parker (someone AJ already beat). These fights should have been made 5 years ago when these guys were closer to their prime and the fan interest was at its highest.
@@Dom-tb2qz Is this alleged loss of fan interest reflected in actual viewership or engagement statistics? Or are you purely using conjecture to try and validate your bias?
You get excited over young guys? Sheesh
It aged half-well, joshua did what everyone expected fury to do vs ngannou. Wilder got Ko'd by big bang zhang
Amazing seeing the progression of your channel, keep it up man. 👍🏼
The sound is completely off, I'm not an editor but aren't you supposed to do the clap specifically for this? It just feels quite jarring when it is off like this
Is it? I’ll fix it rn
Edit: Can’t fix that shit but thank you for the feedback
@@tjlovesfights lmao, it was a good video regardless
@@JEM_1 if my viewers are not happy, I’m not happy
@@tjlovesfightshe just being nitpicky you good bro
I truthfully didn’t notice until you pointed it out😂
Format works well
half slide-half cam
Even tho the sound is a little off
I think the heavy weight division is fairly strong but I do think Fury and Wilder are over hyped. Both have weak resumes, especially wilder. I was shocked that most ppl were shocked that Parker beat Wilder. The only shock for me was Wilder went the distance. I bet on Parker stopping him.
How is fury resume weak?
@@lampad4549 His two best wins were against a past prime Wladimir Klitschko, in a fight which is considered one of the worst title fights in HW boxing history because it was so boring and forgettable. And Deontay Wilder who is notoriously one-note, Fury REALLY struggled in their third fight getting dropped multiple times and looking really sloppy.
His other 'good' win was Otto Wallin, who gave Fury all sorts of problems and Fury was saved by the bell in that fight. Had that fight gone on, the doctor would have stopped the fight due to that nasty cut Fury sustained. Whilst Fury struggled against Wallin, AJ completely blew him out of the water.
Fury's resume is weak, especially for someone considered by some to be an ATG boxer.
@@lampad4549did he answer your question, or did you have another?
@@mason9807 He doesn't have any more questions.
@@madgavin7568 Also, Fury used a forearm to cheat his way to victory over Cunningham after Cunningham knocked him down. Plus, John McDermott beat Tyson Fury.
I hate all this slander towards boxing because of what happened with Francis. The real bull shit imo, is that he wanted to be a boxer and has always dreamed of being a great boxer. So all the MMA guys claiming this as a victory for MMA are just reaching for straws. Yes, Tyson should've performed better but lets not ignore that Francis is physical specimen and AGAIN... HE WANTED TO BOX. That matters
This is why i love past boxers
I normally like your takes but your way wrong about AJ. AJ has the best resume at heavyweight by far.
Was thinking the same thing
AJ, bless him. Watched AJ's early fights, excited by the power. He fought Dillian White ages ago and was rocked early / mid fight. Then you notice he doesn't move his head. And 10+ years later he still doesn't. Fury could be excellent if he's not mad. But he is as mad as a broom. How has he trained? Has he trained? Who knows. Wilder is bobbins with a big right. Usyk is very good indeed. A fight with Fury could be very high quality if - IF - sane Fury turns up.
Find your take on AJ a bit harsh considering out of the 3 he has the deepest resume in the least fights. He collected the belts thru multiple fights and continued to fight the best guys available to him. Acting as if he got "exposed" cos he lost to usyk is crazy and discredits how good usyk really is.
The main issue is that these guys didn't make the fights when they were supposed to which going thru the timeline is mainly the fault of wilder. He became champ before both of the other 2 and couldve unified with klitschko but his team deemed him not ready with 30 fights on his record. Bare in mind AJ claimed his first title in his 16th fight and fought Klitschko 3 fights later to claim another belt. AJ made offers to both guys and both guys turned them down.
AJ is the most skilled, but a bit chinny. Fury is mentally strongest, big and moderately skilled. Wilder has so much power that it carried his sub par skills.
Idk about that. AJ seems a bit stiff and robotic. I think Francis is going to demolish him
@@henzoko5946lol
@@henzoko5946 So much for that..
@@henzoko5946 😂😂😂
The only true heavyweight among the big dogs of the division was a cruiserweight (Usyk).
I really don't think this generation of HW is so bad, the only big issue is that we didn't see the big matches among them when the fighters were in their prime and surely that was and still is a great hole in all their resumé.
11:14 Absolutely false. Jared Anderson and Richard Torres do exist if you watch boxing
You are right about somethings and wrong about others
This is the MO of boxing in general. Appear like you're an undefeated man-god, by carefully picking your opponents.
TJ i love your videos, but respectfully, I think many of your points are simply wrong.
- with the age argument you made comparing fury and ngannou, you should also take into consideration that fury has been in more wars. ngannou started late and hasn't taken as much damage. also, like he said, you don't fight wilder 3 times and come out unchanged. i do agree that wilder has been extremely protected but at the end of the day, he was an Olympian and you don't win a bronze medal without having SOME skill.
- for joshuas fight with usyk, he wasn't exposed, he simply fought a better fighter. with that argument applied elsewhere, was spence exposed against crawford? I don't think so, I think he just fought a better man.
sorry TJ but this analysis was not it
Yeah bro … TJ is the typa mf to be like “actually 🤓☝️”
This might be his worst video. Horrible takes.
Do you actually follow boxing or are you just and mma fan who watched fury vs Ngannou?
He does
This heavyweight era is embarrassing.
I think you’re being too extreme about Joshua, his best win was Ruiz 2 and those losses forced him to work on his skill level. His last 2-3 fights have been extremely underrated and i think his best boxing is still ahead of him.
Nothig got exposed u just gay and dont know knothing about box overall... your Lennox Lewis who accroding to u was the "baddest" got dropped in his prime by Oliver McCall.
Ali was 22 when he fought 34/35 yearls old Sonny Liston (Liston who had defeats against journeymen), then should have lost his trilogy to the mighty "Ken Norton" and got kicked by Leon Spinks in his 8th professional fight, one of the worst HWs in history with 17 losses.
George Foreman spent his career fighting journeymen even in the 1980s then got defeated in his prime by the all time great "Jimmy Young" facing Ali just one time in his entire career.
I knew your youtube channel never was to be trusted as old heads like you like to point out every single thing nowadays but never about the past.
Aj just destroyed Ngannou whappens that Fury didnt prepare like he should now you dont even wanna make a video about that 😂😂
Bro I just love the growth of this channel, found it when it was one of those rough cuts gems and now it’s looking like it could be even more special, absolutely amazing!
The hate on AJ & Wlad here is unreal 🤣
New format is dope! Keep up the good work champ :)
This guy seems to be a casual boxing fan.. there are plenty of young heavyweights coming up they’re just not as hyped..YET, Jared Anderson and co also the heavyweights have always been less skilled than the smaller guys and cruiserweights have often done well among heavies.. Holyfield, Haye, Qawi.. and lastly if Joshua had a thin resume at heavyweights then who has a good resume? AJ has been fighting top ten guys and champions since his 15th fight..
I like the new format, as long as the face cam isn't overused and replacing useful illustrations (which it wasn't)
heavyweight boxing is not exposed. we are living in a golden age of heavyweights!! fury, wilder, usyk are just coming to the end but there will be others coming up! in ten years we will look back at how good this era of heavyweight boxing is. people in the 90's werent grateful either at the time for what they had, look what 20 years did.
All the heavyweight greats of the 90's fought eachother. Lewis and Holyfield, Holyfield and Tyson, Tyson and Lewis. We cant and probably will never get to say that about this current era. Wilder and A.J, A.J and Fury, Usyk and Wilder and so on.
This is so true TJ had a real stinker with this take
Heavyweights suck today skillwise its not that hard to accept
Modern heavyweights like joshua and wilder only rely on their straight right hand. Past heavyweights had perfected their jab, had footwork from two weight classes down, and were not ducking each other. It's incomparable for any pugilist, this is just wishful thinking from your end.
@@jeromesylvester2644TJ is right lol. HW boxing is dead right now
Happy to see TJ shout out proppa boxing
Saying wilder has a mediocre boxing skillset is mind-blowing
I really want to thank you for taking the time to put together a well and thoughtful video. I truly believe in a lot of what it is that you were saying it is quite a shame to see the state of heavyweight boxing versus Cruiserweight. What was such huge spectacle to Feast Your Eyes Upon with such talents as the legendary Hall of Famers never put on a pair of boots and gloves. We don't need to go into detail but for case and point the Muhammad Ali's, the Joe frazier's, the Evander Holyfield etc,etc. When we mention these guys we're talking about 100% pure gladiators that was damn near willing to die in the ring for their pride and approve who was the better man it's almost like boxing as a whole became glamorized because now it's almost like WWE you never know what storyline what twist what turns. And it's kind of sad because we don't see a lot of promising heavyweights to step up through the ranks and reign supreme. So once again I thank you for a well thought-out video please keep up the good work I hope to see more great works from you in the future God bless you and have a great day🎉
AJ vs Klitchko was the day I fall in love with boxing. I am in heavyweight category myself and I love to watch only those guys, but… there is really lack of quality in every aspect. Everything just feels artificial.
We fuck with the new format but some pop ups too is cool. We here for you regardless bro
This is very true. Heavyweights only relies on their bomb like punches. Usyk is the only skilled guy I've seen so far.
some bad takes here, there are PLENTY of heavyweight prospects to be excited about. Dubois, Anderson, Jalalov, Wardley, Sanchez, Hrgovic, the re-emergence of Parker, and even Opetaia when he moves up.
Yeah this is one of his worst videos clearly influenced by ignorance and recency bias. We’re in a golden era of heavyweights. The only thing I would say is that the margins are ALOT closer than we’d like to believe and the gap between the top guys and the rest are not all that large.
Torrez, Clarke
TJ face reveal 😲
You guys are late lol
New format is great, I think we listen to what you're saying more than we see the video, anyhow :D
Heavyweight boxing has always leaned older and not as technical; so there are often less heavyweight "boxers" and more heavyweight "punchers." The whole buzz about Fury was him being a heavyweight that boxed like a super middleweight. So taking his time with Wilder makes sense if you're worried about getting clobbered once by Wilder.
With Ngannou, I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that Fury's team didn't know what to train for and Ngannou's MMA skills would be such a benefit. Ngannou getting out of Fury's clinches with sheer strength was probably unexpected by everyone except Ngannou's team. Same with Joshua v Ruiz; Joshua wasn't prepared for a shorter dude whose hands were that fast. And, Joshua probably didn't think Ruiz had it in him on such short notice.
Great video as always! In terms of young heavyweights, I'm stoked for Richard Torrez Jr. to finally face some tough opposition and same with Jared Anderson
I don't know why Fury's team would have been surprised out Ngannou being able to get out of clinches. In boxing you're not supposed to clinch but in MMA it's allowed so Ngannou has been training to handle clinches his whole career. Obviously Ngannou's enormous strength helps too.
@@BiggieTrismegistus - Thats a good point. I guess more so than clinching, Fury tends to... drape himself over his opponents? And Ngannou was able to just push Fury off a lot of the time cause of how strong he is
Ppl WHERE CALLING FOR THESE GUYS TO FIGHT 5 YEARS AGO, THEY JUST GOT OLD
Normally I agree with you but wow you're just plain wrong about AJ man.
there’s nothing with your face but i like the slideshow, makes it feel a documentary.
So couple issues with this video that just bothered me
-the wilder commentary was horrid yes he got outboxed but the dudes skill isnt his strong suit and for what im assuming was malik scotts decision he tried boxing on the backfoot waited to be active until the last round and didnt let his right hand (his money maker go) against parker also come tf on wilder would have destroyed parker if he was the same fighter that faught breazele or fury in the first fight
-the wladmir fight was overlooked so much and it angered me so much AJ was young and klitch is a fucking monster even in his age also are we going to wash over the mental games that gave Fury that win seeing as wlad legit threw nothing and couldnt start anything
-usyk is quite litterly one of the most skilled heavyweights alive and even besides his height and size he is still one of the most skilled tacticians
Great work TJ need more Boxing videos can’t wait for Usyk vs Fury
Boxing is way more brutal in terms of punishment than mma
Boxing > mma
Best combat sport TH-camr
How exactly was AJ exposed by Usyk? He lost a highly competitive fight to someone with an all time great skill level. Lately with your videos, you’ve had this MMA is better than boxing agenda. Kinda cringe
Joshua was never really "exposed" except to incredibly casual audiences. The only reason he had more losses then the others is because he actually generally fought well tuned talent in the division unlike the incredibly inconsistent Fury and especially unlike Wilder. He's actually a pretty good inside fighter, maybe a little basic and a little predictable but a pretty alright fighter nonetheless. If all the "top 3" fought each other a couple years ago, I think Joshua would have easily defeated both of them.
Tjlovesfights I love your channel but it seems like your ducking attest make a video of how overrated Fury is
Fury is trash
5:35 how dare you disrespect Leon Edwards like that
“Exposed”. Everyone loses and it’s not like they were at their primes. These guys have been doing it for the longest and now that they are seeing a decline. They are exposed?
fw the new camera bro keep up the good vids🙏🏽
Great new format man really mess with it 👌🏽
welcome ladies! this guy has been doing a great job for fight community
Nobody wants to watch 2 grown man hit each other's gloves for 36 minutes and leave with 0 bruises. Boxing is boring
Modern boxing is boxer.
A necessary and accurate video. Please don’t listen to the haters in the comments, your honesty is needed
I dunno hes got a slouchy loose body but when he stiffens up and stands tall he was probably 6'8 10 years ago. Just his knees buckling inwards loses half an inch where most people legs dont do that
Ngl, I prefer the old slideshow format.
The whole era. People don’t fight each other anymore. We don’t care about losses. And being undefeated. If you are a killer you’ll have that 0 at the end of it all. Everyone dodges everyone.
AJ will send Ngannou back to the PFL
He did 😂😂
… Joshua is the favorite on every betting odds you can find bro FOH 😂😂
That fight was vicious hard to watch
This new format looks more professional and could eventually attract more sponsors in the future. Btw, are you a full-blooded filipino immigrant?
Aged terrible 😂
The only way Ngannou can win a fight, is to knockout his opponent. Because they will never give him the decision against a big name like Fury or Joshua…
I don’t necessarily agree with you but respect your decision. I think you might be overrating Ngannou’s boxing ability and underestimating AJ’s. Not only that AJ easily has the best boxing resume. But we will see.
Man your harsh take pleased my heart. Thank you for pointing out.
imagined this guy too look exactly like manny pacquiao 😂
Don’t really make sense to say that Wilder got exposed for his lack of boxing skills by Fury and now Parker. Wilder has been long exposed by Luis Ortiz and even guys like Gerald Washington and Artur Szpilka were outboxing him. The difference is none of those guys were elite so Wilders power was able to save him in those fights
What about Jared Anderson or Filip Hrgovic?
7:36 glad you mentioned Propa. Amazing videos!