Draupnir ask you, is biovore the best machine of war ever?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- The biovore has been the best machine of war since machines of war were added to the game. This video I ask you a genuine question: Do you think it will stay as the best machine of war forever? How much damage will a machine of war need to do to match the utility of the funny bug cannon?
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I agree the Biovore is best in Guild Raid. But I think the Forgefiend is a much better choice in Tournament Arena, the ability to block off parts of the battlefield is excellent (and it has won a number of games for me)
Yes but tournament arena is the worst game mode
I agree. But just like the Imperial Guard, I have a hard time keeping a good stock of missiles.
Forgefiend boost Neuro comp damage so much tho, you can set the boss hex on fire every turn to constantly benefit from Ahriman passive and so that Ahriman can double dip with his passive for himself, and the Active butchers summons from Sibyl, Avatar, Corrodius and can even help out with Storm Boyz.
I think you're heavily downplaying Forgefiend in the composition he is good in
PVP: FF (No contest)
GR
General use: biovore
Neuro team: FF
Admech (limited cases): galatian
Any boss you need to "bait" would require biovore even if you are running a admech team.
Would like to test galatian vs avatar of khaine, was too weak last rotation.
Why forge fiend for PvP?
Sure if you use FF wrong, you going to have bad time with him. Bring along Vindicta and it's a massive damage dealer AND movement denier. I use Vindicta in Arena to fantastic effect, as dumb AI always groups everyone together. So no, Biovore is not the best.
Edit: AND you are using Galatian wrong. He shines in Tournament Arena Conquest, where you can mark one of the points, preventing enemy from attempting to score it. Each war machine has it's best uses in different environment, if you are trying to shove the same machine into everything, you are going to have a bad time.
In PvP modes Biovore is THE WORST, no contest.
In PvE it's good, but situational.
Nothing in this game is good or bad in vacuum. But it is hell of a challenge to build around Biovore.
On contrary, Fiend is a killer with Ahriman/Vindicta. If he would be stronger, he would need a nerf. For me the video is too narrow and finding only arguments the maker wants to hear.
If you use Galatian in TA you are why people keep bitching about pay piggies ruining that mode.
@@Zekkigoth Out of curiosity, why is Galatian pay to win? I've unlocked him, same as everyone, in the invasion event. And if you are talking about using his primary, don't. That's not what he is good for, he is good at denying objectives. Deploying him on the board is expensive and silly, only noobs would do it.
I'll say this, Forgefiend is FANTATIC in the earlier game with a leveled up Vindicta. 2 big flame hits with Vindicta with her Active, and then Forgefiend damage? It can straight up melt higher (comparatively) tier characters in Arena, and can dish out a lot of total damage during Guild Raids
Imo this video does not explains “why Biovore is the best”, but “why you think, Biovore is the best”. Would love to see more objective comparisons.
A future mow could influence movement (teleport,two extra steps etc) which could have a huge impact
Biivore was the first machine i unlocked because you talked about how it still provided value even when it wasnt levelled up and i didnt plan on wasting resources on machines over characters.
Great video, keep those educational Warhammer 40,000 Tacticus videos coming. Happy Blessed Warhammering!
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Thanks for the video. Ive been using Galatian instead of biovore but never had much luck with him. I tried the code but it didnt work. When did it expire?
I agree that it will be very hard to top the general utility of the Biovore. There are still openings for situationally powerful MoWs. How about one that prevents units moving more than 3 hexes for one turn, or one that stuns the first attacker, negating the attack. Ok, basically anything to protect from the Ragnar+Aunshi+Kharn meta.
Glad you made this one because I couldn't agree more. Got the Biovore in the first incursion because I like Tyranids, and I've never looked back.
Any time you're facing AI, it pretty much ALWAYS targets the spore mine, and when you're facing a human in arena, spore mines are great for blocking goal hexes so the enemy needs to kill the line before they can take the hex.
Love it!
I like Biovore the best when fighting a Machine of War in Arena. Basically feeding Archi or Haarken because Archi can summon Daemons with kills and Haarken becomes deadlier per kill
Biovore is great for arena, and to be honest, I think I so enjoy unlocking it first.
Yes and no, each MoW has its uses, the Malleus only real win scenario is if the enemy has 1 character left, its a single attack low movility character like say Pestilian, and you happend to have at least 3 guards in different positions surrounding your enemy, since you can summon endlessly you will wear them down slowly. FF is great for pvp because it can punish camper tactics, annoy non stoppable melee characters, if you have Ahriman it WILL break most teams and its active can make most summoners worthless if its level enough like Abraxas which is always a problem in pvp, dmgwise is not great but can it can be if you if you play pvp at common or uncommon rarities. Galatian aside from its utility in the admech team as i see it is more of a defence MoW, its too costy to use in pvp or GR too much so in arena or GW defense is where it shines since its used without spending ammo, and so far very few people have its active at high enough level where it can be the monster it can be. As for Biovore it has many utilities both in pve and pvp, it can mess with single overwatch characters if you position your spores well, it can mess up low hp characters with the active and has good area denial, it has uses for GRs and GW, its great in TA, you can use the spores to exploid the enemy targeting priorities, however! The spores are quite prone to be overkilled so its kind of a gamble if they will make dmg or not, and the primary part of "they will move inmediately if there are already 3 spores in the map" is pretty much useless, for most fights you wont get to that situation, they either will explode or destroyed, and its a terrible MoW for GW defense. So i would say Biovore so far is a probably the best MoW for most scenarios except defense, FF in second place. Now so far the MoW have low sinergy with characters, Galatian was a big step in that direction thinking of the Admech, if they start making MoW with that in mind i believe they can surpass Biovore.
Calling biovore better offense than forgefiend is actually so insane. I've not taken damage from spore mines once yet.
Biovore and FF are both the best in specific scenarios. In live arena Biovore is almost useless. Who cares about the mines? In GR its very useful. Especially Silent king and Morty.
One question. If you set a guild boss on fire, will he take more crit damage? Or is he immune to the effect?
You're thinking of ice, not fire
@@Marko-re4ni OMG im stupid XD
Forgefiend>Biovore. The whole "if the boss moves you are screwed" thing is not really valid because boss ai is extremely predictable even with bosses with guaranteed movement like Rogal Dorn. The ides that you need Ahriman or Vindicta or other fire synergy to make it good is also wrong.
Forge fiend is clearly better
Couldnt disagree more. Its function is only to bait ai into summons. It provides nothing else in any situations... pretty much the reason ive gotten the other 3 first. Its also quite worthless in TA/guild war
Ye guild raid and pvp biovore is god tol. In guild war defens a have it with jarick team give him more cadians faster. Imperial guard one with may neourotrope with tank team. Dreadnot with may mecanical team even if its bad for the team for now when skils only 14 when wold ned be 36 xD
Biovore definitely can attract attention through spores. However active ability is meh
Active is good pressure against players, in my opinion, because if they ignore your passive just summoning spores and run away, your active will be there and IMMEDIATELY take a turn and attack, and the spores do so much damage. It's a way to make players also waste their own turns in Tournament Arena.
Sure it messes with action economy, but I've yet to waste a whole turn to biovore active.
@@CrabSpu You almost never do, but I think it's fine the way it is. It summons three spore mines in a dangerous position, so at least 2 or 3 characters need to waste their turns.
I've had much greater success with the FF. Not a fan of the biovore.