China is the REAL land of the FREE?!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2017
- Years of living in China have shown me that life in China is actually significantly more free and relaxed than in other Western countries that I've lived in and visited. However this freedom does come at a huge cost!
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The end made it all come together. Great video, and very well spoken. More people need to be aware of this. Be careful though (viewers), it's getting much more restrictive than it once was.
check out "Victoria's Secret" in China today
That's a bummer. I left four years ago, and while I miss it sometimes, I feel like my timing was pretty decent.
Watchout for WATERFALLS matt!
Living in china sounds like life on probation.
Stephen Mortimer *We should create a binding code of conduct to raze this disgusting nation off from the face of earth* !
I had absolutely zero interest in modern China until I found your PSP video like 3 years ago. I've watched almost every video you've uploaded since. You and laowhy are still the best Chinese vloggers and I've learned so much about that crazy interesting place, thanks for all the content.
And so what do you think of modern China?
yeah who wants to visit china, i watch the channel because its interesting
I am now in your country and what can you do. Nothing, son
rekt
Ackerley Harris As a Chinese, I must say..........
that fish is very cute btw...
The only truth is---If you are rich enough,anywhere is free for you
but that truth isn't really reflective on the majority of common nobodies, is it?
no its a sign of massive corruption and not working institutions, after the collapse of the soviet union when we became free of the soviets all laws even here became "relative" for everybody, if you had 20$ 90% of the cops could be bought off etc. a argentinian friend of mine said the they had same situation there especial after the economic crisis in 2002, all laws become relative when the country is in the "grey zone" between very poor and mildly well of
Ultimate truth
Yes sir! That is an unfortunate universal truth in our world.
An unchanging fact. Like death and taxes.
What you called "freedom" is actually lawlessness.
abqduke isn’t that really the same thing
@@jachariah4694 😂 yeah lawlessness is freedom...libertarian heaven.
Apparently a lot foreigners think that Chinese don’t have freedom cause our government has too strict and ridiculous laws. Like we are not supposed to go on TH-cam and FB things. But many people just don’t care like I just buy VPN and I’m here. I think this guy just try to explain this kind of freedom. However I have to accept that this lawlessness sense also cause plenty side effects.
Well, yeh law is usually what inhibits freedom. How else is freedom inhibited?
the difference between them is paper-thin neglectable when you are really bringing out policies to influence either. Only on paper theories and oral discussions do they sound distinct.
As a chinese ,I appreciate your video.You just present us chinese next things to do. Believe me,the spitting the littering the grandparents hold children peeing to a sewer will disappear when people born 80's become grandparents if not sooner.So be patient,just a decade give or take. Comparing our parents, the responsibility is much lighter for us young generation to overcome. We have faith to better ourself and our parents.And one day, your relatives will ask you how well you live in china with admiration as undertone.Better things are the ones worth waiting.
your social can be better, chinese can be better, but it's just good to a certain extent, it will never reach to perfect level if you dont have freedom, my country will probably become like your country a few more years, all we live under communism
+uncletigger The second paragraph first and last sentence give me the idea that you think democracy have more freedom than communism. Which I don't think so , even I'm more pro socialism. I think whichever social structure we chose just have one purpose: Make us behave for ourselves. In that sense , we are all slaves for ourselves's sake. Just different methods for different people from different culture. So I don't believe communist party keeps us enslaved , just like I don't think "It is West fault" . We have responsibility for our choices and choices made by our predecessors's. Because If we denying that then we denying the truth about ourselves then denying responsibilities then we truly being enslaved which will only cause troubles. And I really really hope my fellow compatriots will even consider that. Sometimes owning up our mistakes is really big troubles in my ethical culture and cultures around Asian. But I think when our government begin to show humble and generous to us is the time The West really should afraid.
We chinese have a saying "人人为公，天下大同“. Which means everybody is altruism then the world is utopia. But that would be impossible. So I think it should be "人人如龙，天下大同". Which means everybody is bravery just and rational then the world is utopia. Which I don't see included in any idealism is disappointing.
Europe had similar issues with the ex-Communist countries. After the Berlin Wall was destroyed, those Communist countries improved, they are not perfect but they got better.
I think it all comes down to money. More money = better education = better sense of moral values = better public behavior.
Of course more money also means different problems like debt, obesity, and stress because of that debt. That seems to be a largely Western problem now but it will eventually make it everywhere.
It's really hard to have a perfect society. I think the goal should not be perfection but to simply be fair to each other and all other things will balance out because of fairness.
My US college professor went to China with me, I’m Chinese btw, she particularly interested in taking pictures of what we think it’s not so pretty even shameful places or poor people. For example some poorly dressed street vendors, filthy beggars etc. I don’t know what she was thinking, I know what I feel about it -her sense of superiority. Chinese are usually very friendly to foreign visitors, but not all of them look at us the same way
Chinese rule: do whatever the fuck you want except dont voice your political opinions and you will be fine.
American rule: Say whatever you want, but everything you do is illegal.
No, that's legal.
Sir yes, almost right.
As a Chinese, I pretty much agree with this dude in every aspect he talked about objectively speaking. China is developing and still has a lot to improve in both hardware and software manner. We should accept the points made and trying to get better and better! Great Video!
Chainsaw1989
But you cannot be objective as you are speaking of your own country which you immediately made everyone aware of by the by.
But there is nothing wrong with expressing your love for your nation and wanting it to improve.
Of course you love china you commie.
@@Life-tastic im not proud on my country also
actually i dont give a shit about it
im not chinese
we also need to remember thath with such a fast growth if the ccp wont be restricted by the time the people'd start to change their perspective and view of the goverment
it WILL be too late
people in china are allready offresed and can't fight the regim
china might be a developing country but it's much more powerfull then many people think not as much as the us/... but still china should be restricted... (well not china the ccp)
@Jk Jk
So is eating people for food, but it really messes with people.
although I'm a Chinese living in the mid china area, i have to say you definitely need to be very tough to make this video and face all the criticism coming from my fellow chinese. Good vid, btw.
I hate lots of Chinese for this, the same way I hate lots of Vietnamese for this. Every times I went back to Vietnam, I have to watch what I am saying, try not to say anything negative about Vietnam and what's not.
And Vietnam is a LITE version of China, so for him to do all, I am surprising nothing happened to him. I guess living in South Africa kind of making all this problems kind of child play for him.
You can use TH-cam in China?
@@CuongNguyen-le5ic very good point. I think being in south africa prob gave him a thicker skin where he has to deal with even worse issues. im surprised too in some ways though i think today he no longer lives there. Vietnama being a lite version of china makes sense i didn't know that. Both interesting countries i'd like to visit someday.
@先生奶 I don’t understand
@TobbeStorm Only with enabled VPN
I love whatching you speak while showing the streets
Quite nice streets
Rafael Cayenne, It's nice, yeah. Don't pay attention to Ackerley. Don't feed the trolls ;-)
I hope youve seen his older videos, especially some of his "grand adventures" where hed ride into and through other smaller towns, some were gorgeous and comments plenty .
Thanks, Zilverbolt. Yes, Chris, they are awesome
I thoroughly enjoy watching how people react while you are filming and walking. Doesn't anyone ever complain? "Hey, I better not be on that video!"
这位兄弟也是很了解中国了，大家不要一味抵触，都是事实嘛，也是我们需要改进的。
有则改之，无则加勉
對 既展示了好的一面 也指出了弊端 不過引用一些未經證實的視頻片段 這個不夠專業
5块钱一顿饭，也是醉了，就吃个煎饼果子或者肉夹馍就能吃饱？
To MyricalLyrical:This brother is very familiar with China. We should not dispute his argument blindly. Fact is fact. We need to improve.
Dude, I am just translating the words for you as you asked. Not me that calling him brother. In fact, calling you "brother" is just like calling you "dude" in Chinese slang. I should translate it as "dude". You are right about the white welcoming. For the last question, I am not bothered at all, but for some losers, maybe.
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.
Chinese society now is different from what it was 100-150 years ago. Then I am sure Chinese people were polite and law-abiding. The society has changed because of the very great hardships that the Chinese suffered under communism and now the view in China is everyone for themselves. In particular the Great Chinese Famine of 1959-1961 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine which is still covered up in China and caused by mismanagement by the Chinese communist party. Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that "China's total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million."
ComtedeMonteC
Actually it is not communism it is fucking western drug pushers who stared the opium war. They fuck up the Chinese society and it needs the communit to kick them out. But communist are bunch of uneducated mother fuckers who rule the country. Give another 30 years all these fuckers died off and we will then have Chinese 2.0 modern educated and strong.
What you see right now is the consequence of the last 20-50 years.
@@bldomain It wasn't the communists, it was the bourgeoisie
@@bldomainYou're talking about events that happened over 150 years ago. Muppet.
ComtedeMonteC what you see is freedom
In China, laws are just guidelines.
this is in general is true for most places. but depending on how serious the law is its obviously very serious such as anything against the goverment.
AND DRUG.
Laws are there to restrict the people, the the government.
the real and end-all problem is: those guidelines are enforced on an absolutist term when they are actually enforced.
Greg Chen thats funny. maybe you should have a try to break laws and you ll see what happens.
I've been in 26 countries and i need to admit, that last year and a half in Beijing was amazing and it became one my favorite cities I ever lived in. You need to get use to some things, but at the end is nothing like was thinking, before coming here.
I've been watching his vids for a long time now, this guy's issue is a bit different.
He has a bit of identity issue in him. He's south African but in his vid, he admitted that he's culturally incompatible with SA(quote: "...raised british style", " surrounded by XXX"). He loved China in first few years when he first came cross the border but couldn't deal with the Chinese (old) way of doing things. Then he obviously tried to look for some way to immigrate to USA(he has a video about immigration policies for UK and USA), but apparently he's not qualified. Now he's married(or is he?) and couldn't afford a house(he missed the opportunity) which is a big issue for in-laws, plus he didn't want to work as English teacher but that's the one of the few job opportunities he will ever get...
I want to say it's understandable for the frustration. But seriously... he's just like a Chinese self-centric youth, always complaining for everything that's not gone his way... it's just weird for someone of his age.
you should watch more of his videos. Everything you just stated is false and has been talked about in multiple videos over the years
Jake Liu Don't know whether the facts you mentioned are true or not, but the resemblance and logic is there. It's not like 10 or 20 years ago anymore, at that time, foreigner can just lie down and make tons of money. Now nobody gives a shit whether you are a white people or black people, as long as you can make things happen, contribute. It's getting harder and harder to reach top in China as a foreigner, and your different skin color might become a hurdle now.
where the hell have u been to call a country that poisons you with gutter oil, gives you cancer just for breathing its air and the locals spit at your feet is the best one? fake account
Robert Hardy that what i meant when I said there is things you need to get use to. I stop hearing and paying attention to spitting after a month, otherwise you can get mental. And it is great time. Im here with my girlfriend and we have many (not only Chinese) friend around. I just love it here, im not saying is better then America or Europe or whatever. Im saying just what im thinking. Thats all
Bingo!!! Finally a video with a subtitle in a language (English) I could understand. Thank you very much!
Love you, man. Thanks for speaking the truth and taking the hits.
that poor turtle :'(
I hope it gets one of that bastard's fingers.
purposly that turtle doesn't look like a local turtle, it looks more like a snapping turtle which is a threat to the local turtles and environment. So we probably have to control their number.
shade38211 By the way, Language...
Again you people love crying about turtles and dogs but you rush to KFC and McDonald's to get meat that was probably treated worse..
He had him on a string,vied to a pole. He was about to take him to a turtle park to swim and frolic with other turtles. Scampering about, just in slow motion.
China Linux: free command can only be accessed with admin rights. Sudo free you are now free
Just as most countries did in the past to gain finance development by sacrificing environment. Similarly, we need a safe environment from the "you"r slander to impede our nation's development. You did not even know about China how can you be so sure about the freedom is temporary?
I'm an older American man, been to china, an amazing country, very extremes, but amazing. I found it difficult to live in because its society is so raw and intense. I lived in Thailand one year at first I loved it but after 6 months it started to wear on me after my one year visa expired I left and went to Vietnam. I been here 5 yrs and I live it. Life here is very free, uninhibited, alive, it's a nation in transition, construction and development going on everywhere. It is like being in two vietnams, the past historical culture, and the new Internet, wifi, Facebook, youthful, alive.. in general the Vietnamese people are happy outgoing social family society.. like all places on earth it has its problems but I accept them. I plan to stay here as long as I can.
Goku- goku-goku-goku vietnam is great, in transition from past to future. Exciting times to be here
That's so neat, are they accepting of the LGBTQ community as well?
>older american man
>thailand
Hmmmmm
SolidShibe's lost brother. I love living in Asia, I love living in Vietnam
laser325 Vietnam is changing mainly in Saigon, it will be years before the country itself develops. As far as the planet affect. As all things To ways to look at it one is your opinion the other is travelers bring money which helps the local economy which is good for Vietnamese people (jobs and more opportunities to make money. The poor here are “Poor”
Vietnam is changing with or with travelers, China japan South Korea are big investors and developing thru out Vietnam... you can not stop the future.
Saigon has its backpacker area it’s what all backpackers are like bars hookers massage crash pad apts
But outside of that area it’s real Vietnamese people families and culture... vietnam is in a transitional stage the old Ho Chi Minh post war Vietnam (older people) and the Facebook smartphone Vietnam (younger)
So whether someone talked shit or did nothing or talked good VN is going to change for some things for the better and some for the bad.
Been living here 5 yrs Most of the foreigners I’ve met and see are here enjoying , having fun and being decent
"spitting and urinating in public and being generally inconsiderate"
sounds like the north east UK
Did you make friends with the cops in your area? That's the first thing I did as soon as I moved to my new area. Since then I've had 2 people come to my place and try to threaten me and each time I luckily got to deal with the cops that are in the nearest police box and they immediately told the person being an asshole to leave or else they would get in trouble. I love living in Asia, but personal person to person politics plays a big role in how well you are gonna do here. That's why I always tell new people to get to know the cops in their local area as soon as possible -by name- so that way they don't get hassled (at least near where they live) and just in general. The more people know you and have good experiences with you, the more people will get your back when shit (will inevitably) hit the fan.
Thanks for making the video Winston. It didn't seem biased and overall a fair assessment of what was going on. Can't wait for the next videos.
+TkyoSam thanks mate! More coming soon
Woah!
woah what kind of area do you live in that people threatened you?
There is no discrimination in China, people are more curious about you, because you speak a completely different language, and physical characteristics, you are curious about the reason is really want to become friends with you. The Chinese are very shy and find it impolite to harass guests. If you are active enough, you will be pleasantly surprised.
TkyoSam I seldom see someone threatened by others,most areas are in harmony
I'd say it's been seven years of watching your channel now, and it's still my fav!
Svalbard Aeon And unfortunately He'll never be allowed to become a citizen .
John Rossi Why is he allowed to live in China so long and not become a citizen?
Svalbard Aeon then I’m doubting that u r sick.,
Sounds enchanting lad. I'm in America, Arizona we have so many laws that we probably break some everyday. China seems a little scary to me. Love your videos and that your an honest lad.
China has no laws against smoking in public places, and no laws against drinking alcohol in public places. In China, as in other countries, cars are banned from running red lights, so cars obey this rule, but Chinese law does not prohibit pedestrians from running red lights. Other countries fine pedestrians for running red lights, but China does not. China does not ban people from accessing foreign websites, the government just creates a wall to prevent Chinese from accessing illegal websites abroad, such as pornographic websites. China is tough on drugs, tough on gambling and sex (but not tougher than drugs). China is still a developing country, but China is doing better than other developing countries.
In past trips to China, I have been surprised at how free people seem to be. Variety shows, vaudeville like burlesque shows with funny skits about their Communist Revolution and even a 1960's themed restaurant where the friendly wait staff dressed as Red Guards will joyfully denounce you as a Western Capitalist between entrees, all in fun. In many ways I felt more freedom and personal safety in China than I do in parts of the US or Europe, Italy in particular. Although I was nearly run down in Chinese traffic more than once, for running a business China is more user friendly. Currently it seems personal liberties of individuals are under threat in the West as well. I have friends whose businesses are being turned upside down because minority individuals claimed someone uttered a racial slur. I have been audited by the US Internal Revenue Service for 3 years after sending $150 to a conservatve political group. Try teaching school in the US, Canada or Europe if you hold the wrong point of view. I would never presume to discuss Chinese politics in China, but I once took this for granted in America, and no longer can. P.S. As I write this I am laid up from food poisoning from an American restaurant.
ok thing to remember is no country is perfect if there was one we would all there?
i am from uk arrived in beijing 2010 and just like winston turned my life around. there are
things we love and things we hate living here but we adapt to them. traffic is really bad. crime is so low you can walk at night with no fears. if you plan to come here just remember it is the chinese peoples country respect their laws and culture do not cause problems keep under the radar and you will have a great time here. yes you have to show your passport at hotels' banks' get on trains/ planes. will you get stopped in the street and asked to show passport not really ( never been stopped in 7 years)police come once a year to check me out maybe winston is red flagged now thats why they visit him twice a month? if you see things you do not like just think this is china and this is life here. i hate the spitting and things too but it happens just ignore it and live life. act like winston and not like prozzie and you will enjoy it.
The China Police check on this guy twice a month, cuz he's making Media.. China is very sensitive about their image.. Negative Media will get the Chinese Government's attention PDQ..
I just think he exaggerates sometimes. Some of the bad things he said are true in China, but the percentage is really very small. Bad things happen in any country, but that's not the whole story. Chinese distrust of Chinese milk powder is due to the serious panic caused by the fake milk powder incident in 2008, and the whole government took this matter seriously and severely punished those responsible. Since that year, the Chinese government has been strict with milk powder made in China. It is fair to say that there is nothing wrong with the milk powder made in China. But since people's fear is always there, it will take a long time to eliminate such bad effects. China is not heaven, but it is not hell, just like your country.
On the baby formula subject, it's absolutely horrifically bad for children to drink that stuff instead of their own mothers breastmilk. It should be a crime.
14:02 I knew a girl who'd lived in Beijing for over two years and hadn't even realised she had to register. She worked with diplomats as well so how the hell she didn't know is beyond me.
I understand the message of the vid, but I disagree with the rather negative tone. Personally, I experience most of China with my gf from guizhou that I have met 3 years ago in South Korea. She is also disgusts by the carefree behavior of many Chinese (spitting, traffic chaos, littering, public peeing, etc). But that doesn't stop her from being extensively pro-China in every other way, considering the amazing changes that have been happening here for the last 30 years. I am living in a little protective bubble with her, where we do try to abide the law, respect traffic lights, avoid certain bad looking restaurant, wash our food before cooking, wear face masks, doing all these things to compensate the negative effects of all this "freedom" in China.
But lets be honest, the positive aspect of this freedom far outweigh the negative. Buying stuff on Taobao, ordering any kind of food for cheap and in an instant on your phone, buying a cheap electric bike for nothing to travel around the city with no registration needed, enjoying awesome Chinese food chain restaurants, or super modern hotels for ridiculous prices, in general having the feeling of not being screwed whenever you buy something, whether it is paying for transportation, electronics, food, hotels... that is freedom isn't it ? Or is any foreigner doomed to change his mind about China (in a negative way), as time passes by? Anyways, stay awesome dude, love how you speak your mind compared to other youtubers in China.
+Yamapopi lets chat again in 13 years
In south east Asia food is cheap like China and have higiene issue. Excluding Singapore.
LOL
I truly _love_ your videos, SerpentZA ! ! !
Your greedy landlord forced you to move;
so, now, the rules have changed.
Seattle has these problems too. Everyday,
I see trash everywhere, including dead animals.
Here, young, healthy kids _chose_ homelessness as their
LeastBad option -- about 12 thousand people, last count.
New York City has just 3,892 homeless people, last count.
The median home value in Seattle is $695,600.
The (ordinary) house I grew up in now costs 1.2 million;
because of where it is, the land, not the house per se.
" Vancouver area benchmark house price now [ $1.1 million USD ],
up 30% in 1 year ", May 3, 2016:
www.CBC.CA/news/Canada/British-Columbia/Vancouver-real-estate-house-prices-1.3564528
KFC and Mcdonald's in China had hygiene issue a few years ago and the meat supplier was a US based company. The company supplied rotten meat to the fast-food chains.
As they are such huge American corporations, should we jump to the conclusion that Americans lack morals? Similarly, 3 UCLA basketball players were arrested for shoplifting in China. Does this action reflects the general population of US?
All of those "freedoms" in China can be taken away at any moment. There is no bill of rights, and certainly no 2nd amendment to protect the bill of rights.
Sorry. Our country's development won't simply be hampered by criticizing our government and Chinese people. You can't do nothing but sit like a moron and watch.
Relax, you're trying too hard.
you are also powerless over your own life.
You're a slave Jeffy. You'll never understand.
While that's true you misunderstand the reach of our (US) government.
The second amendment is a joke to be honest and the bill of rights is worthless toilet paper that's walked on daily.
Free speech is censored daily and people receive visits and threats to shut up on the daily from the government.
Cops and feds can make up near any reason to justify searching, even downright lying that they smell weed.
Bail is often set at ridiculously high levels when the individual has no ability to even pay or get in debt for a fifth of that amount.
I can go on, but we're no more free than China today or even when China cracks down on laws (unlikely).
You are always spot on, man. There is this old joke I heard when I was a kid in China - a guy spit on the ground, the policeman comes along and asks for a fine for just 5 yuan (less than a dollar), he spits again on the ground and gives the policeman a 10 yuan note, and he says "no change". You see, it takes a higher penalty to enforce some of these laws. But the government is not incentivized to do so. Because it will cause the policeman a lot of trouble if he asks for 100 yuan, he won't get it, the guy will run away or just do whatever it takes to avoid the fine. Then we have this vicious cycle here - the less enforced the laws are, the fewer respect you will get from people for the law, which makes it even harder enforce the law. However, in recent years there has been some strict traffic laws in a number of cities in China, I hope they keep up with it. It is going to be hard before it gets easier.
Well, I am shocked that this is totally right about the bad consequences. What he said is fare enough. I didn't know why those things are still happening in China. And, it seems people are quit used to it. Until one, my mom told a little story. Actually, it's a real story. In our local market where my mother is working inside. They caught a thief. that's a bad thing. The keypoint is not about the event, but the man who did this thing. virtually, he is a retired college teacher, who can have a lot of pension from government every month. What he stole are small snake which are quit cheap. He can totally afford that. Why would he do that? Because he has Alzheimer's disease. Alzheimer can remind him of his childhood, when Chinese was overwhelmed with poverty. stealing some food might be the only way to survive during that period. So, what i am saying is. All these fast development in China, the modern societies, nice subway systems, great malls, are blooming within recent 30 years, or less. The old generation has deep memory of old, suffering times. And so the bad habits are nailed in their bones. They can't change that. Government can't do that. No one can. When I was 5, there was few cars on the street. Now, I am 25, you can see cars everywhere. however, the traffic laws are not told well for everyone. The young generation are changing their attitudes and learning courtesy quit fast. If you say, a 10 year old school boy in a modern city will urinate in public. I will not believe that. But how about en old peasant with a 6-year old?
I think it's about education gap. Decades ago, some Chinese are still suffering. Not everyone is well educated.
I’m in Shenzhen now and I’ve had the police come to my door before and demand to see my passport. They’ve also demanded to see my passport before they would allow me to exit a metro station when I got off the train. I don’t actually have a problem with that. What china does is far better than what the US does. In the US it’s illegal for the police to demand to see anyone’s ID at any time. So you end up with millions of illegal foreigners who come and stay illegally forever. The police will never check their ID and there are essentially no immigration laws or immigration enforcement. Unchecked immigration is not freedom. Having a bunch of people come to your country and take a free ride on your system while you pay a crap ton of taxes is not freedom. I’m also in Shenzhen and I approve of the areas they usually do crack down on like ID checks. It may effect me personally at some point or even cause me to have to leave China but I’m confident that as long as I’m not hurting China in some way I won’t be severely effected in everyday life.
Wish more people would see it like that
Racist rubbish I'm afraid. We are all born equal and there should be no borders.
Yes there should be borders. Why the fuck wouldn't there be? We don't live in a world where everyone is a saint. I sure as hell wouldn't let you walk in my house freely when I don't know who you are.
No such thing as a free ride. Anyone working in the US is paying taxes. Even the illegals are paying taxes, except toward someone else's social security #. Many of them are busting their asses doing work for less than minimum wage. If anyone is getting a free ride, it's the employers who knowingly hire them, without doing a background check. Pretty much slave labor, for what they get paid.
"What china does is far better than what the US does. In the US it’s illegal for the police to demand to see anyone’s ID at any time."
How about in russia ? Russia is not interesting as a country ? OK
China is very free as long as you're chinese and support the government.
You better not send these Winnie Pooh memes through wechat boi
Josh Duriden yeah communism is like that
Teringventje
Absolutely free media = uncontrollable click bait and hoax flooding your social feed. Absolutely free market = economy is so unstable that people would be afraid of spend money. Absolutely freedom of speech = stupid people brain washing people with fake facts and potentially tear the whole country down.
We have freedom, to an extend, and we know damn well that true freedom is basically just a lie.
As for the law system, it's the same system in Europe (well, except British). There's no wrong in having a written constitute and make justice using mainly law terms rather than law cases.
Teringventje
Because some people just assume that China is at the very other extreme (total control). Basically, it's not. And the whole point of government is to prevent one of the extreme (total freedom) to happen. China is no exception, you need some bottomline control to get the whole country going.
Not saying that China has achieved that goal though, but the goal basically isn't total control, but rather, "fair" control. How "fair" though, people have tried a few millennium to figure it out and is still trying.
Americans have the freedom to shoot and be shot. Enjoy your government and guns!
It is interesting that China seems to be the exact opposite of Japan in this regard. In Japan people always are extremely considerate, everything is very clean, no smoking in public let alone stuff like jaywalking, noisy neighbours are virtually unheard of, very rarely will you see people talking on the phone on public transport.
Japanese society is very different. They have very little land for the amount of people. Overtime, they've developed a lot of social formalities to live in that type of tight closeness without mis-understandings/disagreements. It's possible that the formal behavior is a part of the overall social problem leading to a chronic declining population.
However Japanese express their want for the lawless taboos in their entertainment industries. Absolutely insane things can be found.
GREAT episode. You are bolder, more confident, more truthful than ever.
I earn 25k per month in Beijing, I still find myself as poor as broke. :( 12k living as the king? fucking hell NOT!!!
hey i just want to share my appreciation for all of your vids, i am an american from the southeast and i dont believe i have ever been taught any real info about china, but your vids give me so much insight and i feel like i am learning about the real china, thanks so much for that its a great service your doing so cheers to you my friend, if your ever in the south east of america let me know, so i can give you the tour ok
Good stuff thank you for all of the great videos you put out been married to a Chinese woman myself for 17 years and living in America you help me understand a lot of things that my wife never did best wishes keep up the good work Uri
Here in Nanjing I've only been checked on once. Two officers came and knocked on my door and announced they were just here to "check on my safety" , then immediately asked for my passport.
China is free for Chinese, but western tourists has a lot of issue like hard to buy local sim card , internet vpn and so on
Max Gerasimov true.
I heard abou this.
Andrew Cobb I tried about 5 local mobile stores, every one required Chinese ID. China infrastructure are not friendly to foreigners
We will improve that.... but when I landed on the land of America... I had a lot of issues too, such as buying SIM card and access to free wiki.
As long as you let the Chinese authorities keep track of you, and as long as you don't spread opinions that are a threat to the dictatorship (for example calls on social media for demonstrations), you are free in China. In most cases, there is no difference between foreigners and Chinese in that regard. Websites are just as blocked for Chinese as for foreigners, the only difference being that the controlled alternatives are mostly in Mandarin, and fewer Chinese speak other languages, so in practice it hits foreigners harder.
I've been watching your videos since 2012 when I lived in Japan, and remember actually sending you a PM asking about Chinese vegetables since the Japanese were sceptical of them. I also remember you replying something along the line of Japan being the safe choice and China being the place for the adventurous. Although the quality of your gear, editing and preparation for the videos are half a million times better now than when you sat with a beer in a restaurant in the village or made a 'what's going on in China' and gave a recap of the news, I still see the old ones from time to time. You were so optimistic about life in China, and I'm sad to see that things aren't that great anymore. I hope you still enjoy life over there and continue to make these videos, and that the situation changes back to when you didn't feel as hindered by the government in living your daily life. I still haven't been to China, but I will one day. Thank you for keeping me entertained, interested and informed about China for more than half a decade.
+JR Hanwasen thanks mate! It means a lot to me that you’ve stuck with me all these years!
I think your brutally honest views and opinions on China and the life you lead there are really good and refreshing, both the good sides and the bad, very engaging and interesting, your living your dreams out, which can look like a nightmare at times lol but that's life. Great work your doing mate.
The turtle..ended the video for me.. Like kids with autism who will respond to the pure love of a 4 legged person... There is nothing on this earth I find more tragic, heart wrenching, loathsome... than a cruel brutish human... China was at the top of my bucket list, until I learned... I would be sobbing as I tried to sleep..
wait what is that guy seriously abusing that turtle at the start WTF?! thats actually sick mate
+Shoryuukenn yeah, can’t stand it and I see it fairly often
serpentza yeah dude pretty bad, but taking that aside love your vids been watching them for months now, never know could end up in China one day and I'll be fully equipped haha
You are confusing lawlessness with freedom.
Laws can specifically allow stuff or specifically forbid stuff... Additionally the government can decide to enforce or not to enforce those laws...
Freedom can be enforced by specific freedom laws or by the lack of enforcement of freedom depriving laws.
The latter type of freedom can just be more easily taken away ;)
Austin Drysdale
It's like an open cage but they could close it at any time :P
I "It's like an open cage but they could close it at any time :P" laws was alway like that in the begining and somehow people are stupid enough to think absolute " freedom" exist
He lives in China long enough and finally understand how to apply "newspeak" everywhere.
TK "lives in China long enough" so what , he can`t even fit himself in his home country and now he just understand thing work . what a joke
60 years ago, my uncle worked in different province, he came back to Shanghai for Chinese New year once every year. He had to report to local police station, as soon as he arrived. He was not a Forigner.
Serpentza is a YT legend.......love watching your channel mate keep up the good work buddy :-)
Hi Winston, been watching your channel for a long time and I love your videos, at the end of this video you mentioned checking the apartment by the local police, I think it's normal, please do not worry about it, I am Chinese and Living in Bao an District, the local police also check my apartment, knock my door about once every two month, actually, they knock each of every doors in the whole building, and I also know they do this to all the living buildings in the community, you know what, I also felt annoying, sometimes I got wake up by the heavy knocking, and I was very angry because I was sleeping at the moment, sometimes the police knock your door between 7pm to 9pm, sometime they knock your door in the afternoon. Anyway, what I want to say is that the policy knock your door is not because you are a foreigner, it's all about the district or the specific community you are living, the related law inforced strictly in some communities, but other communities dose not, it's not a big deal, please rest assured, by the way, I also feel frustrated by the traffic, today I almost got hit by a E-bike when I try to cross the street, I was on a zebra stripes at the moment...........................
love your channel. you should get your own show mate
最后一句是什么意思？ 按中文解读有两个意思， 意思相差很大。我不是要给中国辩解，中国存在很多不好的地方。但你对中国的认知还不够，中国是发展中国家，不是发达国家。国民素质没有完全提高。 现在很多外国人把中国当成发达国家看待，所以到了中国会很差强人意。 中国人口巨大，以前外国人对中国的伤害很深，所以对外国人都抱有谨慎的态度。 由衷感谢你对中国的喜欢和支出中国的缺点。祝你和你的妻子幸福。
That’s the same kind of freedom you can have in Brazil, only worse since you have the freedom of providing your own security too...
Interesting video!
The food part is the part I try not to think of every time I eat something. It's so scary!
Aren't you that guy that is trying to be Casey Neistat, but just isn't at all?
Max Werner No, but I'd like to see that.
Like to see what?
I live in Canada. There are often times food recalls from time to time. So there is no# such thing as safe food you described anywhere in the world. Not only in China. If you want to express an opinion on the something, do research first
Max Werner What you were talking about. What else could I be referring to?
关于生鲜食物时常来源不明这里说的有问题。在菜市场或周边的个人营业，他们的直接货源往往是一致的，都是从本地为数不多的大型生鲜批发市场采购，而后在摊点进行粗加工。在批发市场采购本地或外地农场的货进行交易。所以并非是来源不明的。
这是相对概念。假如你买的鸡蛋里有沙门氏菌污染，你觉得中国政府和相关部门在多快时间会做出反应查到这批鸡蛋的源头？并且怎么知道谁买了这批鸡蛋？如何通知民众？如果保护那些没污染的品质良好的鸡蛋和农场在这过程中不受牵连？
I will never get mad of you for saying the true and making me understand what i have to do i really now like TH-cam now because i see your videos. Thank you
You may be able to “do” what you want, but you can’t say what you want, and don’t get caught thinking about what you want.
If i ever get there.. i will bring 80 sandwiches with me just to 'survive' :)
those pictures with the awful food industry were absolutely nasty. sewer for cooking oil that and the animals being shreded. absolutely gross.
1、其实，你不用太担心，也无需每次去派出所登记，当然，新报到，打个招呼，是必要的。
2、中国太大，有的地方还不富裕，教育也跟不上，各种情况都存在，这是很多外国人不适应的原因。找到合适自己经济情况的消费，会好一些。
3、西方国家环境好，但个人所得税很高，估计你去英国会不太习惯的
4、祝你生活愉快，TH-cam成功！
许海麟 agree
许海麟 sure
yep
Akon Lee I know right?
yes , you know right..
This is a great video, and the narrator is very well spoken. I lived in China for years, and his points are accurate.
1:00 Dude, I see people plugging their phones on random open power jacks ALL THE TIME in the States. Restaurants, card rooms, bars, you name it.
that landlord probably never even redid the apartment- he just used the law to evict you i bet.
Freedom rocks. Do what you want but prepare to except the consequences, and do not aggress against others or their property:)
Another interesting thing is...in many of these countries, they require their citizens to be forever registered in their hometowns. For life, they are known as being from a certain city or town and will be registered in the family book from that area.
Good video. I can now see where Thailand is getting some of their new policies in immigration tactics.
4:36 look at that ad in the back... wow...
Hmm. I can see the point you are trying to make and would agree, to an extent, that yes China does have may freedoms (or pseudo freedoms depending on how you think about it), but I diverge when the topic is whether China is the land of the free.
Honestly, when people look at freedom they seem to think you are either free or you are not. The problem is that it's not that simple. If the US was truly free, there wouldn't be a society, there would be a fallout esc world, assuming China didn't invade. But the United States is the Most free country.
In terms of doing anything you want because laws aren't very well enforced. Europeans, in most cities and areas, gave that up to create civil societies where decency was normal, though you have the right to not be decent as long as it will not cause harm to others. After all, having people doing whatever they want can violate the rights of others. In that sense, Rights can be considered the antithesis of freedom, as well as the very definition in another sense. (See how it's not that simple?) For example, in an area (as you couldn't call it a society) where there is pure freedom, you would be able to kill any thing and one you wanted, let alone other horrifying things.
Of course, you also have the freedom in places like the United States to create communes and pretty much do what you want. Much like with China, as long as it doesn't effect anyone outside the commune, your pretty much safe to do anything.
Economic freedom is a bit of a strange topic to bring up here too. Things being cheap but poor quality doesn't mean you have economic freedom. Having those options doesn't even necessarily determine whether you have economic freedom or not.
Economic freedom in a pure form follows the capitalist idea that two consenting individuals can enter into an agreement and exit an agreement on terms they decide together. Does it sound like China has that based on his testimony? Yes, but so does the US, and the US government, though it has tried and still is trying, cannot prevent this in most cases unlike China.
As for the food, China does seem more free market on that almost to the point of not caring about the quality. Which is why in free markets you need an uncensored and free press who will report improper practices, hazordus practices, etc to the people... Which, and correct me if I'm wrong, China doesn't have.
I guess the final point I want to touch on is this: A county whose freedom is based on whether or not the current government is friendly or not, is happy or angry, or any combination like that is not, by definition, a free county.
They are not being given permission to do these things as you admit that they are breaking the law. So, though I do see where the argument could be made, unless the people had these freedoms without the hairs thin difference between that freedom and total dictatorship I don't think it's intellectually honest to compare the freedom of China to the freedom of the United States.
That all being said, this was a very interesting and thought provoking video and I am curious to see/hear more on the matter.
Also have become more interested in visiting China, with the obvious contemplation of whether I could go to a country where people may go to the bathroom in or near the streets.
I love watching your videos. It’s honest and generally speaking friendly to china. Of course your voices are too honest to take in sometimes haha. Hope you can retire in china and enjoy a fulfilling life there. A fan from a chinese living overseas.
Is America truly free? If you work as a foreigner, you have to sustain a working visa(CPT\OPT\H1\GC). And there is a lot of paperwork to do annually.
If you work with H1 as a foreigner, people from government may visit your workplace to check if everything in order.
Is America really free?
We have the same law system in Russia. There is so much laws, so literally everyone is a criminal on paper. But also never enforced, unless you criticize the government.
Anyway this freedom is more pure and better than Western, Orwellian "freedom" of enforced ethics and "community control".
Yeah, Russia needs to return Karafuto to Japan.
I know that Europeans have been genocide and ethnic cleansing in Latin America for hundreds of years, almost extinct Latin American aborigines, and Latin America is still the hardest hit by racial discrimination. When you use genocide, you still refer to the source of the word. The genocide is not killing several soldiers on the battlefield.
Genocide is killing thousands, or millions of civilians. Russians have done this, and continue to do it often. They killed 30,000 Georgians in Abkhazia when they invaded. That's _genocide._ So what's your point about genocide? Because the Spanish and Portuguese did it in America it's OK for Russians to do it? Bullshit.
not really... If you are in real social democracies like germany austria or denmark, you dont even need to be a friend of the lawgivers and youll get your permits etc. ASAP. You arent being harassed by a Kafkaesque, post-communist system.
Besides "enforced ethics", who is so anti-lgbt, who got pussy riot jailed for a year because of playing in a church. Who persecuted secular atheist bloggers ?
it was a reaction to this:"
Anyway this freedom is more pure and better than Western, Orwellian "freedom" of enforced ethics and "community control"."
You are missing the point.
New Zealand is the free-est country on earth, and has been for the last 6 years :)
Just the way the rating system works. Since I posted this, Norway is now the free-est country on earth. China isn't even in the top 20, 30, or even 50. It's 90th.
You`re very straightforward and honest. I wonder those 499 idiots who gave your video a thumbs down. I like your video. Its good you share to us some insights about China. One day I`d like to visit this place as a tourist. I was also mesmerize by the Chinese culture and damn yeah my family loves Chinese food. I got the perception that after I watch your video, China even though their economy has improved for the past decades, their richest cannot buy manners and discipline. But I`m not saying that all chinese are rude but I can say most of them are arrogant in my personal experience too. Contrary to Japan who is always mindful with other people. China has yet to learn many things from its neighboring asian countries and also from the west. China is still improving and changing everyday. Someday China will earn more respect. Thank you for making this video. Keep it up!
Bottomline is: if you come to china as a tourist especially in a guided tour group just for sightseeing and food, you would be fine and can have a pretty good time. Pay up, then get out. Do not cause any trouble, don't look for things you shouldn't be looking for, then you would be alright.
Well... Must go to my local police station asap 哈哈哈哈. Thanks a lot for the tips !
>*Talks about how annoying people are in public when he's clearly making everyone he passes uncomfortable filming*
jeez man was seriously worried with that title, but yeah man you are 100% correct, a lot of everyday freedoms in the middle kingdom for sure! I lived there for over 4 years..........
You're also free to build without building code. Building fall on people. Escalators grind people to bits. Elevators smash people. Good samaritans can be sued so there are none. They'll just sit by and watch you bleed out without so much as lifting a finger. GREAT place.
wow! 5k likes for this vid. I like what you say Winston, but by looking at the vid that place is nasty. don't know if that's the worst or the norm but no thanks thanks for the vid
You'll find even more freedom in India, a lot of it... too much of it! ahah
Not true !!!
Freedom to publicly defecate? I've always dreamed of that...
Not if you are a woman
@@LondonLeopard1 India is the largest democracy country in the whole universe!!!!(233333333333)
@@mitchtherighteous if you now go on the streets of any city or village, you will find a lot of public toilets.
hi winston. an idea for you. please start using a 360 camera. you keep on walking while talking, how about letting us see the surroundings as well? it would be GREAT!
I remember back in the late 60s early 70s in the US, people use to throw trash out the window of their cars. The sides of the highways were like landfills. Then we put fines on littering and the beer and soda cans had a 5 or 10 cent fee on them which could be traded in via recycling and you'd get that fee back. This made a huge change. Now highways in America are clear of trash.
I doubt they had someone like you in mind when they made the order to check up on "Africans".
@dominic k pm h
The food problem is not that severed, my family friends and I have eaten domestically produced Chinese food for the entire life, none of us had any form of food problem ever, nobody I have heard had any food problem. I agree that some restaurants do not promise the quality, but they are still ok to eat. There are food problems in China but they are really not as bad as you described.
i drove over the speed limit because u said i could get away with it. Now i don't have a licence
Have you ever been to an Aldi's store? They are around in the USA and other countries (I believe it's a german chain), and you can live for about 3 dollars a day, probably literally less than 1 dollar if you were going for the bare minimum, for 5 dollars a day you could get a lot of variety including meat.
Eating out is a lot more expensive, even mcdonalds.
China sounds like the U.s. back in the old days. 1800's .
Guess the Indians should have asked for visas and checked every two weeks.
Before Europeans colonists massacred the indigenous people, America used to be a beautiful land without conflicts.
Whatever makes you happy. We are in 1800's.
Suuuure, no conflicts anywhere, just like the rest of the world right?
jesse diaz Really? We had the American Civil War in the 1800s! China is not having war right now. Hopefully not anyways! China was still in the Qing dynasty with the Taiping Rebellion during the 1800s.
@4:30 Haha this poor guy has no idea hes the default stock footage everytime Winston talks about foreigners and nightlife lol
Did Winnie the pooh pay you to post this comment? Poor little CCP slave...
Ek het op jou video's af gekom en geniet dit baie! Waratig nie geweet jy is 'n SA'ner nie!! Ek werk in die olie bedryf en ons kliente is Chinees. Nou verstaan ek hulle houdings! Daar is van hulle wat vriendelik is en dan is daar wat regte kakke is!!!! Dankie vir die Chinese woorde wat jy hier en daar vir ons leer! Dit gaan handig te pas kom!!! Groetnis!!!
0:43 Literally doing a satanic ritual in public..... do these people not realize that ancestor worship is totally pointless? Your ancestors are with Christ or cut off from Christ. Only two options. They are not free to communicate with you until you are in heaven as well. This means the only beings that will receive your offerings are demons posing as your ancestors to trick you.
Yep.
I am a Chinese. Before I go abroad, I will be told to obey the local laws and respect the local customs and culture. The cultural customs of every country are different. I adapt to the customs and culture of the locals, rather than they adapt to me. I'm just a guest. Every country has its dark side. It needs to be concerned about whether things are getting better. What you think?
You are right. Every country has its own culture and why should it's culture be benchmarked by what Western countries think is right? China has a heritage and legacy of thousands of years, and should be appreciated the way it is, and not what it should be.
100% agree
中肯的评价。不同文明和民族有不同的习俗，应该学习、欣赏、理解他们。因为和有一部分习俗和自己不一样就认为不好的话，可以滚回自己的国家，别出来到处胡说八道。
Warning ⚠️: 7:30 Graphic content. Viewer discretion is advised.
donkeyenvious. Over reacting!?! u can't see anything, its only in your mind
You"re the best. You just explained more thsn anybody asks. Stay well. Keep six.
Regarding the entry stamp thing, in the UK, every single non-permanent VISA holder need to do the same as well, in 7 days, for any changes, including change of address, come in and out the country, etc. Breaching this regulation/law, up to 5000 GBP fine could be issued.
Sounds like you are comparing China with the USA more than most other "Western" countries? You can jay walk and drink in public in the UK, all day long, to my knowledge?
@Jk Jk if you read my reply, it's pretty self explanatory.
@Jk Jk it's really simple, the USA isn't "the West". It's one country.
18 minute video. 1 ad!
There's a difference between being free and being reckless.
I wouldn't call it freedom, as much as public service laziness.
As an example, by the mid 1970s in Czechoslovakia, almost every law or crime against the state was either ignored or just resolved with a slap across the wrist. People simply could not be bothered rounding up all the dissidents, save for the odd 'example' or two.
When my parents and their friends were planning their escape to another country (which turned out to be Australia. Not their first choice apparently). My mum told me that my step-dad and his mate were overheard discussing their plan in great detail in a public, by the secret police.
All that happened was a visit by one of the agents warning them not to discuss such matters in public and to be careful when traveling to Yugoslavia.
Sufficed to say, we made it through two communist controlled borders and to freedom. If we had attempted that at the start of the 70s, definite jail time, and I'd have to live with ny chain smoking step-grandmother or alcoholic father (god bless his soul).
The USA is similar. We have so many laws, its very possible to be committing a crime without knowing it. Its knowing what the authorities enforce. Here, speeding, not paying taxes, not getting car registration, and not getting permits will get you in trouble. Basically, its about money.
very true but in Asian countries its all about the group, so in the US, there are absurd laws but the individual has much more rights and individualism than in the East. It s not what it seems and it all depends on what you prefer. Give up rights and have more freedom as long as you tow the line for the group, or be an individual and responsible for yourself. You cant say like the US is more oppressive; its all subjective.
Chesty Buller you can own guns in USA but you can't in China.
Probably won't be that way for long...
The laws enforced in the US are intended to protect the rights of others. For example. Making it illegal to open a food stand that blocks the sidewalk protects the rights of the pedestrians that use that sidewalk.
It really depends on your definition of "freedom." Are your personal freedoms protected or do you impede on the rights of other by exercising your own freedoms?
The legality on and balance of "freedom" and personal rights is a balancing act. It moves one way for a time and back the other. I had this amazing law professor in college who explained it well to me. Oh and believe me Teringventje your personal freedoms are well protected and represented in the US, though other maybe impeded and vice versa in other countries. You really ought to look at the bigger picture.
That is not freedom, that is chaos.
Then you don't understand what freedom is.
Xaco Swso
I know what is freedom and what is chaos.
Estela Garcia
Chaos is Entropy, the degeneration of Order.
Based on what you said, you don't.
Agree
Jesus I keep clicking on different videos and there is a blue thumbs up meaning i've seen this before, last 5 vids have been the same cause I love ADV China and the guys who make it happen, thx for ur great work.
Disagree.
Borned and grew up in Beijing, now I study in NY. Life in NY is way more "free" than I thought. People don't buy tickets for subway; Throwing trashes on the street; My roommates didn't even get a bath in a week sometimes. I don't know why u only presented those "dirty restaurants", while there are just so many clean ones to choose and they are cheap, affordable for everyone. In the US, I ve never ever gone to a restaurant on the same price level, with clean dishes or forks. I've seen more beggars in 2 years of NYC than 18 years of China. I've seen people laying on the street. I've seen people doing drugs on public. THAT'S what we called FREEDOM. I admitted that the traffics are bad and people still need to learn a lot from the West. It takes time, and it has improved a lot every year.